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[08:44:07] <andtrds> hello can ask something about XenDesktop ?
[10:00:00] <pak21> Yes :-)
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[12:46:09] <q1x> hello all
[12:47:42] 
[12:47:59] <q1x> Any tips?
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[13:20:53] <tabularasa> morning peeps
[13:43:01] <ruinah_> good morning
[13:45:33] <ruinah_> I'm continuing my work today on my Citrix Receivers and my SSL issue with the Receiver on Android.
[14:03:55] <tabularasa> fun stuff
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[14:16:35] <ruinah_> @ tabularasa - \yeah it is actually. My admins really like Receiver for on call.
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[14:17:37] <ruinah_> an iPad or a Xoom with Receiver and they can really do a lot remotely on the go. We're considering developing a few mobile apps for our internal users so they can quote on the go too
[14:17:41] <tabularasa> ive not messaed with reciever yet
[14:17:48] <tabularasa> well, sort of.. android, ipad, yeah, but not windows
[14:18:22] <ruinah_> I haven't messed with Windows receiver really either. I didn't put up a merchandising server or Dazzle or anything yet. Not sure if I even want to go that route
[14:18:36] <tabularasa> yeah, i'm not sure yet either
[14:19:01] <ruinah_> everyone seems to want to make their own app store these days. Look at what Amazon is doing launching yet another place for android applications
[14:20:08] <ruinah_> We encountered something weird this morning. Sent a client to the citrix website for a Xenapp client and the only thing that shows now is Receiver and and offline plugin. No more actual citrix Client out there.
[14:21:33] <tabularasa> yeah, i saw that too
[14:22:19] <ruinah_> i am installing the receiver now, we'll see what that brings us. I hate it when Citrix does this stuff, they just eliminate older files without really making mention of it
[14:25:26] <tabularasa> pretty much
[14:25:31] <tabularasa> i don't know anything about merchandising server
[14:25:35] <tabularasa> i use the PNA all the time for internal use
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[15:09:05] <gblfxt> looks like client is just rebranded at windows reciever?
[15:10:01] <kdavy_> it is
[15:11:37] <q1x> < q1x> I'm tryint to install Edgesight for Load testing, but I can't
[15:11:37] 
[15:11:37] <q1x>                 and 3.7.
[15:11:42] <q1x> anyone?
[15:16:11] <tabularasa> whats it doing?
[15:16:23] <tabularasa> anyone understand SQL licensing in a virtual environment?
[15:16:44] <tabularasa> if i license both sockets (12 cores) on a server, can i make a VM with 8 vCPUs?
[15:16:58] <tabularasa> i think i'm reading it correctly, where i can, but its confusing
[15:17:05] <kdavy_> tabularasa, yes, it goes by physical sockets
[15:18:01] <kdavy_> though Windows Server Standard may only see 4 vCPUs unless you group multiple vCores into a logical vCPU
[15:19:21] <tabularasa> i would never make more than 4 anyway, just using an example
[15:19:26] <kdavy_> any microsoft licensing is actually pretty logical - if it would be licensed for bare metal host, you have no problem running same load in a guest
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[15:54:16] <tabularasa> morning ScottCochran
[16:04:52] <q1x> thnx guys, apparently winxp is not supported and therefor the launcher is missing...why doesn't it tell me this?
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[16:06:42] <kdavy_> winxp not supported for what?
[16:06:56] <kdavy_> ah, ESLT... makes sense
[16:09:56] <jduggan> have any of you installed 5.6 xentools on a 5.5 hypervisor host
[16:10:12] <kdavy_> jduggan, why would anyone do such a thing?
[16:10:12] <gblfxt> ie9?
[16:10:34] <jduggan> kdavy_: not realising that it was a 5.5 host and youre using xencenter 5.6 :)
[16:10:41] <jduggan> but im thinking
[16:10:46] <jduggan> when it plugs the iso
[16:10:51] <jduggan> its doing that locally right
[16:11:05] <kdavy_> jduggan, ah. the xentools iso doesnt come from XenCenter, it comes from the host the VM is currently on. correct
[16:11:12] <jduggan> so probably the right version will get installed
[16:11:16] <kdavy_> yes
[16:11:34] <jduggan> ive had 5.5 xentools on a 5.6 host
[16:11:37] <jduggan> without realising
[16:11:45] <jduggan> i always updated but never saw an issue
[16:11:54] <kdavy_> they're backwards compatible mostly
[16:12:18] <kdavy_> just like Win7 is backwards compatible to Vista :)
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[17:15:36] <MSilva01> Hi Guys ... I have a intermediate certificate linked to the root certificate on AGEE, I can access my published app but I cant estabilish a vpn connection ... I got the message: Invalid access gateway certificate ...
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[17:26:46] <nelloz> hi to all...
[17:27:05] <IcePee> Greetings!
[17:27:48] <nelloz> i would like to ask you, if it's possible to install the delivery console of xenapp6 in a workstation outside the domain where lives the xenapp6 servers, and administer the farm ?
[17:28:31] <IcePee> Is this a Windows domain you're talking about?
[17:28:58] <nelloz> yes it's a windows domain
[17:30:57] <nelloz> suppose you have 2 domain , one called workgroup and one called contoso.loc . when i try to start the delivery console from the workstation that resides on workgroup domain, with the "run as" , and put my credential of the farm administrator of contoso.loc
[17:31:23] <nelloz> it gave me an errore that it doesn't recognize who is this user ...
[17:31:42] <IcePee> is there a trust between the domains?
[17:31:59] <nelloz> no there isn't
[17:32:30] <IcePee> so, they are not part of the same "forest"?
[17:33:35] <nelloz> yes the are separeted...
[17:35:30] <IcePee> I don't have an in depth knowledge of the xenapp of which you speak. But I heard the synchroniser app is a modified Redhat Linux distro.
[17:35:59] <IcePee> I wonder if it's the same for your app.
[17:37:11] <nelloz> for me , if there isn't a trust between the domains and the delivery console is installed in a workstation outside the domain , when you try to the console with run as , and put the credential of the farm administrator , it gives to you an errore 'cause it doesn't recognize who is this user
[17:39:15] <IcePee> can you authenticate against the local admin?
[17:40:35] <nelloz> i don't know, but i can try now and give u feedback
[17:45:50] <nelloz> i can explore the c$ of the server but nothing with the delivery console..
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[18:22:55] <makson> kdavy_: http://www.unidesk.com/blog/iops-calculator -- What's your thoughts on this?
[18:22:59] <makson> kdavy: ^
[18:29:14] <tabularasa> The more I use this Netscaler, the more i like it
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[18:37:54] <makson> hey tabularasa
[18:38:08] <makson> What portions of netscaler are you using?
[18:40:54] <tabularasa> load balancer and AGEE
[18:41:00] <tabularasa> and ssl vpn
[18:53:28] <kdavy_> hey makson
[18:56:06] <kdavy_> that calculator is pathetic
[18:57:13] <makson> kdavy_: haha... He had all the guru's including ruban look at it and OK it? You should comment.
[18:57:28] <makson> I know you understand that really well. I don't know enough to comment.
[18:57:59] <tabularasa> i dont know much and i know thats pretty pathetic
[19:00:32] <kdavy_> quote: "What if you just want a ballpark number quickly?" - that's exactly what this article solves
[19:01:33] <kdavy_> but if you save some initial effort and "quickly" overestimate your IOPS requirements by a factor of 4 or so by making a couple assumptions, you'll spend a lot more on storage than you should have
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[19:07:50] <Tenju> Note to self = default ports are not your friend when WinRM is involved
[19:11:38] <kdavy_> WinRM?
[19:21:59] <kdavy_> awesome article: http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2011/03/15/citrix-is-motel-art.aspx
[19:22:06] <kdavy_> so true
[19:26:22] <kreign> kdavy, any idea if something like this would work with nexenta? http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-RevoDrive-PCI-Express-OCZSSDPX-1RVD0240/dp/B003OBZ9IA/ref=pd_sim_e_8
[19:27:19] <kdavy_> kreign, you'll have to check if they have drivers for it. that's the main issue
[19:27:23] <kdavy_> email them and ask
[19:27:56] <kreign> hmm
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[19:29:45] <kdavy_> ok, The revo is a SIL3124 + dual Sandforce SF1200 implementation, so it will show up as two drives on the nexenta syste
[19:30:28] <kdavy_> and SIL3124 is not a very good sata controller
[19:30:35] <kdavy_> though it should work
[19:30:54] <kdavy_> i'd get a Vertex 3 Pro instead of bothering with the PCIe cards
[19:31:42] <Tenju> "Not rocking the boat since 1994" i love that statement
[19:33:14] <kdavy_> haha me too
[19:33:56] <Tenju> i was all of 10
[19:34:02] <kreign> omg http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-z-drive-r3-p84-pci-express-ssd.html
[19:34:09] <kreign> "The Z-Drive R3 is capable of delivering a full gigabyte of data per second and up to 135,000 random write IOPS"
[19:34:43] <kdavy_> kreign, ha, so they used 4 sata channels in this one
[19:34:46] <Tenju> aren't those the drives that cost like 10 and 20 grand?
[19:34:55] <kdavy_> Tenju, nope
[19:35:00] <kreign> Tenju, are you telling me that would matter?
[19:35:05] <kreign> you could saturate 10gigE with that
[19:35:09] <Tenju> haha
[19:35:16] <kreign> tho the write iops are kinda meh
[19:35:19] <Tenju> how much do those things run?
[19:35:31] <kreign> about as much as a new mbz, not much
[19:35:35] <kdavy_> that Z-drive is EXACTLY the same thing as taking 4 regular MLC SSDs and attaching them to a RAID SATA controller.
[19:35:45] <kreign> kdavy, yeah looks like it.
[19:35:47] <kdavy_> except all on one PCB
[19:35:57] <Tenju> whoa
[19:36:28] <kreign> kdavy, I'm waiting with anticipation for a raidz hardware controller.
[19:36:48] <Tenju> I wouldnt mind one of these for my home testing
[19:37:23] <kreign> something like an atom w/ 4Gb of RAM and onboard pcie SSD modules (optional) or whatever.
[19:38:02] <kreign> though due to the rate of zfs dev I'm wondering if that'd actually be worthwhile.
[19:38:13] <kreign> still, if they could get it in at around $500 it'd be worth it, I Think.
[19:38:23] <kreign> especially if they made the controller 'generic' enough that anything could talk to it.
[19:38:25] <kdavy_> kreign, yeah, would be nice
[19:39:04] <kreign> (raidz + zil on a big virt host running local exchange/sharepoint, maybe)
[19:41:49] <kreign> hey, off-hand question
[19:41:59] <kreign> who was it in here who had a local PC manufacturer? tabularasa ?
[19:47:53] <kreign> kdavy, you recall?
[19:48:05] <kdavy_> yea, it was tabularasa
[19:48:14] <kreign> hmm cool
[19:48:21] <kreign> tabularasa, I want to know the name of that PC maker ;)
[19:48:22] <kdavy_> http://www.chipcocomputer.com/ was their site
[19:48:28] <kreign> ahhh cool ,sweet
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[20:19:26] <kdavy_> RemoteFX works so much better with 25ms latency than it does with 60ms
[20:19:42] <kdavy_> i'd say 25ms already gives you a LAN experience
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[20:28:50] <axilla_work> we're using citrix xenserver 5.6 we have a dom0 with 96GB memory.. it has 59GB free and we are trying to create a virtual with 32gb
[20:28:59] <axilla_work> however it won't let us.. the most we can put in it is 16
[20:29:01] <axilla_work> is there a limit?
[20:30:30] <kreign> kdavy, good article btw
[20:36:35] <kdavy_> axilla, i think you should be able to set 32 via xe command line
[20:39:25] <kreign> kdavy, um why would there be that limit there?
[20:39:37] <kreign> I've got 28Gb assigned to a VM...
[20:39:44] <kreign> "bug"?
[20:41:23] <axilla_work> kdavy, thanks found what I was looking for.
[20:43:54] <kdavy_> kreign, the limit is in the GUI, it's based on the OS you specify when you do initial install
[20:47:07] <kreign> huuuh
[20:47:12] <kreign> wonder if that doesn't exist in older versions.
[20:47:30] <kdavy_> possible
[20:47:40] <axilla_work> kinda annoying
[20:47:43] <axilla_work> =/
[20:47:51] <axilla_work> 8CPU limits aren't cool either
[20:48:03] <axilla_work> funny that we're complaining about 32gb and 8CPU's not being enough
[20:48:04] <axilla_work> lol
[20:48:07] <kdavy_> :)
[20:48:14] <kreign> honestly...
[20:48:35] <kreign> kdavy, which feature set is it that you like in XS that you think warrants using it over esxi, again?
[20:49:11] <kdavy_> kreign, the fact that it comes free with XenApp under CSP
[20:49:54] <kdavy_> i.e. a XenApp Platinum CCU license covers XenServer Platinum as well
[20:50:39] <kdavy_> whereas for VMware you'd have to pay extra for basic shit like live-migration
[20:50:48] <axilla_work> thanks kdavy that did it.. had to set a home server + do it through linux
[20:50:57] <axilla_work> to give it 32gb
[20:51:01] <kdavy_> cool
[20:51:10] <axilla_work> errr XE
[20:51:14] <axilla_work> not linux i guess =/
[20:51:18] <axilla_work> well you know what i meant.
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[21:33:58] <Elias_Rus> hi
[21:36:22] <Elias_Rus> ObserveIT is the great tool!!!
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[21:48:29] <Elias_Rus> kdavy, privet :)
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[21:51:50] <kdavy_> privet Elias_Rus
[21:52:12] <Elias_Rus> kdavy_, how are you?
[21:52:27] <kdavy_> alright, not complaining :)
[21:53:44] <Elias_Rus> :)
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[22:30:41] <andtrds> helllo to all..can i ask something for XenDesktop?
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[22:33:31] <andtrds> i have setup a test enviroment with xendesktop that works fine in the inside network..but when i am trying to connect from outside (thru internet) i can logon to vmachine..it keeps loop in please wait to citrix receiver
[22:33:44] <andtrds> can any1 advice on this?
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