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[01:55:23] <caimlas__> urg what a fucking day.
[01:55:30] <kdavy_> how so?
[01:58:14] <caimlas__> still fighting with that fucking bsd machine
[01:58:33] <caimlas__> in more than one way
[01:58:43] <kdavy_> oh. still no go? i thought you reinstalled it
[01:58:51] <caimlas__> oh, I did. exact same configuration for samba - that won't work.
[01:58:54] <caimlas__> exact same configurations
[01:59:14] <caimlas__> fought for the better part of the day to figure out why the fuck it wouldn't authenticate connections against the domain.
[01:59:24] <caimlas__> there's another server running the same configuration that works.
[01:59:32] <caimlas__> same 'major version' of samba
[02:01:53] <caimlas__> kdavy_, mind you, this is something I'm -fairly- familiar with.
[02:02:06] <caimlas__> not overtly, because I've not had the opportunity or inclination to mess with it in months
[02:02:08] <kdavy_> yeah, i figure. i'd be completely clueless
[02:02:22] <caimlas__> mind you, it's the exact same configuration.
[02:03:56] <caimlas__> for this, and long hours, I get rewarded by being berated for "not staying current"
[02:04:05] <kdavy_> ugh
[02:04:15] <caimlas__> ... the mtime on the fucking configuration file was 2006. 2006!
[02:04:20] <caimlas__> (december)
[02:04:57] <caimlas__> and, honestly... samba as "the target" for backups for multiple windows domain, on the same host... that's fucking stupid.
[02:05:34] <kdavy_> oh. samba. sorry i missed that part
[02:05:55] <kdavy_> i can't even get it to work in a 2008 domain setting, let alone work reliably
[02:07:21] <kdavy_> i remember there was something about special kerberos delegation for the machine accounts of the target, and the kdprep utility, but that'd only apply to new installs - a previously working system wouldn't stop working
[02:08:11] <kdavy_> ... unless it was rebooted after the domain was upgraded to a new functional level for example. are you sure the domain is still on the same functional level as it was 2 years ago?
[02:09:05] <caimlas__> kdavy, ... pretty sure.
[02:09:41] <caimlas__> building up a new domain/etc. on 2k8 here at home to test it
[02:09:54] <caimlas__> that's a 2k3 functional at wrok
[02:10:08] <caimlas__> kdavy, keep in mind no krb is being used here.
[02:10:21] <caimlas__> i'm not sure if it's needed; it isn't being used in the 'working' environment.
[02:10:44] <kdavy_> o ok
[02:11:32] <kdavy_> still though... smbd is now the root of the issue, correct?
[02:11:43] <caimlas__> kdavy, I'm not sure if it's samba, krb5, or what
[02:12:07] <caimlas__> kdavy, as a backup target with UFS disks, there's not much I can do about it outside a) freebsd or b) ON stack derived OS
[02:12:09] <kdavy_> i have a suggestion. reboot that other server you mentioned :)
[02:12:16] <caimlas__> jesus.
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[02:16:28] <kdavy_> can't you get all the data off the box onto a windows server? sounds like a better way to spend your time
[02:17:18] <kdavy_> with an intermediate step of rsyncing it onto a filesystem that both freebsd and another variety of *nix will understand - like zfs
[02:19:31] <kdavy_> caimlas__: i think you need something like this right now - http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/imageswell-stocked.jpg
[02:23:14] <caimlas__> lol
[02:23:25] <caimlas__> both "get the data off"
[03:07:03] <caimlas__> kdavy, and yeah, there's little valuation for my time.
[03:21:19] <kdavy> meh
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[03:49:15] <caimlas__> kdavy, I've pushed maybe a half dozen times for replacing this host and/or getting additional storage into our colo... I've yet to get a server enabling me to do anything in a year, and most of the hardware is 2-4 years old I've got to manage.
[03:49:31] <caimlas__> first 'project' was to virtualize a 6 year old rhel3 machine
[04:20:47] <caimlas__> so that's the story.
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[11:51:37] <beli> hi there. is it possible to start apps minimized with the ICA client?
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[12:58:34] <beli> no ideas?
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[14:08:05] <ResourceCache> Cannot find the file 'C:\Documents and  settings\Administrator\Application Data\Citrix\PNAgent\ResourceCache\42290750.ICA
[14:08:22] <ResourceCache> Getting error when trying to launch any apps via a pubdesktop.
[14:10:27] <jduggan> is this xenapps 6 ?
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[14:23:29] <beli> hi there. is it possible to start apps minimized with the ICA client?
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[15:08:31] <blood> anyone get CentOS 5.5 template Boot CD/DVD working? I can boot a CD/DVD using another template
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[16:01:13] <tabularasa> morning peeps
[16:01:21] <Splatone> Morning..
[16:01:22] <tabularasa> anyone doing appdata redirect for XenApp 6 ?
[16:01:27] <tabularasa> yo Splatone
[16:04:50] <tabularasa> http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=283721&stqc=true
[16:04:52] <tabularasa> wtf..
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[16:32:00] <Splatone> No idea on that one dude.
[16:32:18] <Splatone> Ive got a very complicated printer setup that im having to do..
[16:33:18] <Splatone> Farm 1 session ip address assigned by client ip address.  Farm 2 looks at farms 1 session Ip address to setup the printer list.
[16:33:32] <Splatone> Only way I think it can be done.
[16:39:49] <tabularasa> oh my
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[16:39:52] <tabularasa> that sounds crappy
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[16:48:36] <makson> http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=17152
[16:48:44] <makson> what do you guys think about fushion I/O
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[17:15:16] <tabularasa> i don't know anyting about it
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[17:30:41] <kreign> morning.
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[17:35:51] <jetsetwilly> Hi anyone sucesfully installed citrix xen server free and openfiler with MPIO support ?
[17:42:28] <tabularasa> morning
[17:48:07] <jduggan> morning
[17:48:17] <orazz> morning
[17:48:23] <tabularasa> JarianGibson: you around?
[17:48:45] <tabularasa> in XD4 there was the way to add the "restart VDI" button on the WI.... is there something simliar in XD5 ?
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[17:57:59] <orazz> Launch Desktop Studio, Click Desktop Studio root directory, click the powershell tab, launch powershell, put in:
[17:58:13] <orazz> Set-BrokerAccessPolicyRule GROUPNAME_Direct -AllowRestart $true
[17:58:21] <tabularasa> ah, nice
[17:58:32] <orazz> Set-BrokerAccessPolicyRule GROUPNAME_AG -AllowRestart $true
[17:59:36] <orazz> GROUPNAME = Desktop Group Name in Desktop Studio
[18:24:36] <tabularasa> did it work?
[18:40:39] <orazz> I don't think it liked my desktop group .. so negative
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[18:48:13] <tabularasa> whats up ScottCochran
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[19:53:45] <tabularasa> yeah, i hear that
[19:53:57] <tabularasa> my motors came.. i'm sure i'm gonna have some heli-destruction over the weekend
[19:56:25] <jetsetwilly> Hi ayone have expiricence with setuping MPIO openfiler and Citrix XEN server ?
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[20:05:32] <Splatone> tabularsa: Motors?
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[20:11:44] <kdavy_> jetsetwilly: what's not working?
[20:12:09] <kdavy_> Splatone: tabularasa has a new hobby now - RC helicopter
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[20:31:26] <kreign> man i love how freebsd will uninstall something without stopping the processes first.
[20:31:42] <kreign> "I want to get rid of this, but i want it to keep running"
[20:31:50] <kreign> that's exactly what I was thinking.
[20:33:22] <tabularasa> Splatone: yeah, i got a new toy (which really isn't a toy)
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[20:35:08] <kreign> tabularasa, do tell
[20:35:14] <brad[]> Anyone here using Ubuntu 10.04/10.10 with XenServer 5.5?
[20:35:33] <brad[]> (not in HVM Mode)
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[20:49:18] <tabularasa> http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/41459/2191049640048716486S425x425Q85.jpg
[20:49:29] <tabularasa> I assume no, can you run XenServer on an Atom CPU ?
[20:50:01] <kreign> tabularasa, no
[20:50:08] <kreign> Atom has no VT
[20:50:39] <kreign> tabularasa, an AMD Bobcat, on the other hand...
[20:50:55] <kreign> (and supports 8G-16G instead of just 4G RAM)
[20:52:16] <tabularasa> looking for something cheap to do Branch Repeater VPX with
[20:54:17] <kreign> tabularasa, $100 for a Bobcat.
[20:54:37] <kreign> dual core 1.6GHz
[20:54:41] <kreign> look on newegg
[20:54:56] <tabularasa> just the CPU ?
[20:55:02] <kreign> tabularasa, board/cpu
[20:55:21] <tabularasa> i get custom thin clients for around $200 with atom CPUs
[20:55:25] <kreign> put it in a cheap 1u case + USB flash + 4Gb and you're done...
[20:55:35] <kreign> tabularasa, huh really. where from, that's a good price.
[20:55:42] <kreign> tabularasa, unfortunately, since Atom can't do VT....
[20:55:55] <tabularasa> we have a customer computer maker here in town, believe it or not
[20:56:01] <kreign> huh.
[20:56:08] <tabularasa> i'll send you a pic
[20:56:09] <kreign> tabularasa, like, home brew/small shop? or truly 'custom'?
[20:56:17] <tabularasa> no, not small shop
[20:56:24] <kreign> i'd be interested in seeing their site.
[20:56:48] <tabularasa> http://www.chipcocomputer.com/
[20:57:27] <tabularasa> They are right down the road, and our CEOs know each other
[20:57:58] <tabularasa> i assume because Atom doesn't have VT, then you can't do ESXi
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[21:02:41] <kdavy_> they can do ESXi 3.5 :-P
[21:03:06] <kdavy_> or VMware Server
[21:03:17] <tabularasa> Server hosting Branch Repeater VPX must run VMWare ESX 4.1 and ESXi 4.1. The Branch Repeater VPX virtual machine requires a minimum of:
[21:03:20] <tabularasa> heh
[21:03:26] <tabularasa> 1 virtual CPU under XenServer, 2 virtual CPUs under VMware vSphere. Hardware virtualization support is required in the CPU under VMware but not XenServer.
[21:04:14] <kdavy_> hm, so you could actually run the VPX on an atom
[21:04:29] <kdavy_> since it's PV and doesnt need VT
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[21:07:23] <tabularasa> i may have to try...
[21:08:27] <tabularasa> on XenServer?
[21:08:34] <tabularasa> hmmmm
[21:08:34] <kdavy_> tabularasa, you should make a flying branch repeating wifi hotspot out of your helicopter
[21:08:39] <tabularasa> lol
[21:11:12] <rev78> gonna need a more powerful motor
[21:11:14] <rev78> ;)
[21:19:53] <kdavy_> http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2010/04/helivideo.jpg
[21:20:14] <tabularasa> is that yours?
[21:20:19] <tabularasa> ;)
[21:20:59] <kdavy_> tabularasa, lol no. a friend of mine in Russia has a similar one - he owns a photo studio and specializes in aerial photography of industrial objects
[21:21:05] <tabularasa> that must have been fun to balance
[21:21:26] <kdavy_> they use fancy gyroscopes to make balance better
[21:21:48] <kdavy_> and weights of course
[21:23:32] <tabularasa> thats pretty slick
[21:25:03] <kdavy_> yeah, his heli can get ~2000 feet off the ground easily, not even a toy anymore
[21:26:08] <tabularasa> big time not a toy
[21:26:15] <tabularasa> i don't feel like mine is a toy.. this thing can fuck you up
[21:26:45] <kdavy_> yeah, you should put razor blades on the rotors for an added effect
[21:27:31] <tabularasa> I think being a hemopheliac is enough, thank you
[21:27:52] <kdavy_> have you seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l08sONIYaFs ?
[21:28:43] <kdavy_> so wtf is going on in Japan?
[21:29:53] <tabularasa> kdavy_: yeah, i've seen that
[21:29:55] <tabularasa> is so damn sick
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[21:31:10] <tabularasa> you talking about the earthquake/tsunami stuff?
[21:31:16] <kdavy_> yea
[21:32:06] <tabularasa> yeah, not too much
[21:33:01] <kdavy_> though for what it's worth, Japan is one of the only countries in the world actually prepared for such a scenario
[21:33:46] <kdavy_> if a quake like this hits a major US city/suburb, it'll be Haiti all over again
[21:38:46] <Splatone> tabularasa: That Gas?
[21:38:57] <tabularasa> nope
[21:39:22] <Splatone> tabularasa: is that for you or the kids?
[21:39:54] <Splatone> tabularasa: Is that the starter chopper?
[21:40:13] <Splatone> or is that for a arduino project.
[21:40:44] <tabularasa> i have 2 starter copters i'm bored with
[21:40:48] <tabularasa> thats for me.. its not a toy
[21:41:00] <tabularasa> its pretty badass
[21:41:05] <Splatone> When did you get into these things.
[21:44:06] <tabularasa> 6 months ago?
[21:44:19] <tabularasa> i got a $20 one on woot, and it just escalated from there
[21:44:31] <tabularasa> no, actually, i got an airhogs for Will, and it escalted from there
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[22:51:03] <Rebbie> hi
[22:51:16] <Rebbie> i was wondering if anyone had any experience with xenserver 5.6sp1
[22:51:35] <Rebbie> the question is whether to use nic bonds or multipathing for iscsi san access
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[23:06:43] <Splatone> Rebbie,  I run fp1 but Im on a fiber backend.
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[23:08:01] <Tenju> Is there a way to disable Online Plugin from putting things in the start menu from the install
[23:08:21] <Tenju> I know put shortcuts in the start menu is a default setting
[23:10:36] <Rebbie> u can disable it in the farm settings and then set the WI to use farm settings only for the pnagent config
[23:10:41] <Rebbie> online plugin config*
[23:11:02] <Rebbie> each app has options on whether to put shortcuts in the start menu
[23:11:17] <Rebbie> those are considered farm settings in the web interface config
[23:11:51] <Tenju> well i don't have put in start menu on the farm settings and it still does it
[23:12:03] <Tenju> because its selected by default in the online plugin install
[23:12:14] <Tenju> don't have it set *
[23:12:25] <Rebbie> change it on the online plugin site config to only follow farm settings
[23:12:39] <Tenju> ah ok let me go look at that
[23:12:43] <Tenju> thanks Rebbie
[23:12:57] <Rebbie> g/luck
[23:13:30] <Rebbie> splatone -what do u mean by fp1?
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[23:29:13] <Rebbie> for those interested in the answer to my question:http://forums.citrix.com/message.jspa?messageID=1532135
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