[00:00:44] <mete> and I don't really want to screate an 8TB vhd file :P
[00:01:08] <kreignj> ...
[00:01:20] <kreignj> mete, yeah, you're not making sense.
[00:01:28] <kreignj> mete, how would that involve a single vHD?
[00:01:42] <kreignj> unless you're thinking, somehow, of running a virtual machine in a virtual machine
[00:01:50] <kreignj> single virtual host, half a dozen VMs
[00:01:54] <mete> kreignj: one server will be an file server... so 8TB needs to be attached to one machine...
[00:02:08] <mete> other machines has vhd files on another raid5... so this should be fine ;)
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[00:02:48] <kreignj> I must've not eaten enough today or something, because you're making me angry.
[00:04:13] <mete> so give me a better solution to virtualize this: 1xfileserver (w2k8), 1xmssql (w2k8), 1xopennms (linux)
[00:06:18] <mete> so I'm out
[00:06:37] <mete> thanks anyway
[00:06:38] <mete> bye
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[00:26:52] <kreignj> mete, honestly? w2k8 fileserver running hyper-v.
[00:27:01] <kreignj> or linux running virtualbox
[00:27:10] <kreignj> and put your 'fileserver' on said base system
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[02:34:47] <Rienzilla> eww
[02:34:48] <Rienzilla> xenserver 5.5 doesn't like grub2 :(
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[09:14:38] <apollo13> hi, I did install xen server 5.6fp1 and got odd entries like that in /etc/network/sysconfig "<S_>     <sbelowdot>;<BAS>;<CAP>;IGNORE?" everyone else seen that?
[09:26:32] <apollo13> hmm dhcp works, now I get unable to handle kernel nullpointer dereference
[09:37:07] <apollo13> although dhcp works the file is complete garbage *gg*
[09:44:38] <Grimdin> hi all, i have this problem: http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=281816&tstart=0 would like some good ideas what todo
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[09:54:19] <kris_> does someone know if Access Gateway VPX will work with third party authentication, like Vasco Digipass?
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[10:33:00] <lloowen> Hello all! Trying to insall the citrix xenserver free edition, but it wants a password!! Where do I find that?
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[14:30:30] <tabularasa> gladier: ugh
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[16:44:31] <kreignj> morning folks.
[16:49:35] <Meson_> Morning
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[16:52:50] <eaguirre> Good Morning... Have anyone experience an issue when launching applications from web interface using Firefox
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[17:03:35] <tabularasa> morning
[17:03:40] <tabularasa> eaguirre: yeah, whats the issue?
[17:03:45] <tabularasa> firefox is wierd when it comes to ica files
[17:05:42] <eaguirre> Tabularasa: Recently I installed a Secure Gateway for a XenApp. I made the appropriate changes on the web interface config. But when trying to launch apps using firefox, they wont start.
[17:06:25] <eaguirre> Tabularasa: I found CTX126689 this article con Citrix... but i resolutions they are proposing didnt work
[17:06:34] <tabularasa> do they work from IE ?
[17:06:53] <eaguirre> Tabularasa: Yes.. they worked pefectly.
[17:07:08] <tabularasa> its most likely a certificate issue
[17:07:28] <eaguirre> I read that IE uses activeX instead of ICA files... I think that is the problem
[17:07:51] <eaguirre> a certificate issue?
[17:08:22] <eaguirre> Well i it helps, i can launch the app using onlineplugin too
[17:09:03] <tabularasa> yeah, firefox is wierd how it launches apps
[17:09:09] <tabularasa> it has to trust the cert too.. is it a real cert?
[17:09:48] <eaguirre> It was generated on our AD
[17:10:06] <eaguirre> I add the root cert of our AD on firefox and o the PC
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[17:12:58] <tabularasa> any error?
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[17:18:24] <eaguirre> well when launching from IE the cert is Ok.. and from Firefox too
[17:18:54] <eaguirre> thet both get into the webinterface page without any issues
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[17:45:01] <blood> How would I go about expanding an existing partition of a CentOS VM using XenServer 5.6 FP1?
[17:45:21] <blood> actually it's a seperate drive entirely which just contains 1 partition for DATA
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[18:41:12] <timholum1> hello, I have a Citrix Xenserver 5.6, For some reason I can not access it via xencenter, xe or xsconsole, but I do have access to it via ssh? any idea's how to fix it so I do have access to it?
[18:41:33] <timholum1> ls
[18:42:37] <timholum1> would that be the xapi service? or xenserivces? the vm's are all currently still running as well.
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[18:51:51] <kreignj> timholum1, sounds like it
[18:52:36] <Ownage> timholum1: service xapi restart
[18:52:47] <timholum1> will that stop my running vm's?
[18:59:04] <timholum1> nevermind I have a test system, ill try it there first
[19:00:24] <timholum1> that fixed it thanks Ownage :)
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[19:03:27] <Ownage> yep. sorry the answer is no it doesn't affect your vms, but you found out already =]
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[19:53:41] <Martin_> Hello, we are testing CAG 5.0.1 and always get a "Your session is expired or the service is temporarily unvailable" error at first connect. Can someone help with this problem?
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[20:16:15] <manoot> I'm trying to get a 3ware 9750-4i to work in XenServer 5.6.0.. I loaded http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle15899.aspx that driver successfully, but it is telling me there is not enough space on the Raid 10 drives to install XenServer.
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[20:19:43] <manoot> when attempting to install.. then it reboots.
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[20:21:52] <BigSamoan> Anyone here a Xenapp 6 farm admin?
[20:22:21] <BigSamoan> I have a published app and it has shortcuts to open files in excel and word
[20:22:38] <BigSamoan> I'm trying to have those machines launch the local install of office
[20:22:49] <BigSamoan> is that even possible?
[20:25:52] <rev78> i'm relatively new but my experience has been to change the file associations on each client. my experience is once the citrix client is installed, it defaults word and excel files to citrix installs of office if they are presented.
[20:26:10] <rev78> i'm on 4.5 and 5.0 though
[20:26:34] <BigSamoan> so I have to go into the local users computer
[20:26:41] <BigSamoan> and change the file associations to the local installs?
[20:27:16] <BigSamoan> this is my first ever citrix deployment so I'm even less in the loop
[20:32:47] <manoot> anyone know where i can download 5.6.0 FP1
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[20:37:29] <tabularasa> BigSamoan: what are you trying to do again?
[20:37:41] <tabularasa> hmmm.. i htink i know what you are talking about
[20:37:59] <BigSamoan> so I have a published app
[20:38:00] <makson> Hi guys
[20:38:02] <BigSamoan> through xenapp 6
[20:38:02] <tabularasa> if you have "content redirection" turned on, thats going to tell the PNA to launch Citrix, and not the local apps
[20:38:04] <makson> holy snap 70 nicks!
[20:38:10] <BigSamoan> hmmmm
[20:38:17] <BigSamoan> ok what if content redicrection is off
[20:38:22] <tabularasa> so... if you want it to work, you need to make sure the users who have local copies of office, do not have those apps published to them
[20:38:34] <tabularasa> well, its obviously not, becuase thats the only way Citrix will open up a .doc file
[20:38:46] <BigSamoan> wait go over this again
[20:38:49] <tabularasa> makson: wow, thats a record
[20:39:06] <BigSamoan> are you saying I can't publish the application to any user with a local office install?
[20:39:09] <makson> tabularasa: Yah, awesome!
[20:39:40] <BigSamoan> I'm looking at the Content redirection window on the application properties
[20:39:47] <BigSamoan> there is nothing there
[20:39:48] <tabularasa> BigSamoan: i'm saying....  content redirection is a global setting, its not on a per user basis
[20:40:05] <tabularasa> what kind of file?
[20:40:16] <BigSamoan> word doc
[20:40:33] <BigSamoan> it's not a file associated the with the published app
[20:40:52] <BigSamoan> it's a SQL report sent from the published app to word format
[20:41:11] <BigSamoan> I right-click on the application
[20:41:11] <BigSamoan> select properties
[20:41:13] <tabularasa> so, you have a published app, that exports something to word?
[20:41:17] <BigSamoan> under advanced--> content redirection there is nothing
[20:41:20] <BigSamoan> yes
[20:41:32] <BigSamoan> word and excel
[20:41:46] <manoot> has anyone gotten a 3ware 9750 to work in XenServer?
[20:42:10] <tabularasa> and you want that published app to launch the local copy of office?
[20:42:20] <BigSamoan> yes
[20:42:21] <tabularasa> i can't see any possible way for that to work, sadly
[20:43:13] <BigSamoan> wow
[20:43:33] <BigSamoan> I don't see how it would be any different from launching a URL
[20:43:34] <tabularasa> well, the app is running on another server
[20:43:49] <BigSamoan> and letting the local computer launch it using it's selected application
[20:43:55] <tabularasa> so it calls "c:\program files\blahblah\winword.exe"
[20:44:00] <BigSamoan> no
[20:44:08] <BigSamoan> it says "please open doc.doc"
[20:44:15] <tabularasa> yes, the SERVER is saying that
[20:44:17] <tabularasa> not your workstation
[20:44:33] <tabularasa> the app is running on the server, your workstation is just getting screenshots
[20:44:39] <tabularasa> you could do it if you had it as a streamed app
[20:44:47] <BigSamoan> when they sold me citrix they told me it had full local machine integration
[20:44:55] <tabularasa> thats streamed apps
[20:45:03] <BigSamoan> ok what's the difference
[20:45:06] <tabularasa> and they are shotty at best
[20:45:09] <makson> BigSamoan: tabularasa what about drive mapping? from local client?
[20:45:19] <BigSamoan> great so they basically sold me crap....ugh
[20:45:25] <tabularasa> a streamed app is an application package that gets delivered to the client, and run locally on the client
[20:45:36] <BigSamoan> offline plugin suffice for that?
[20:45:39] <tabularasa> yes
[20:45:45] <BigSamoan> hmmm
[20:45:54] <BigSamoan> how does it communicate back and forth to the server?
[20:46:13] <tabularasa> the same way it would if locally installed on a client
[20:46:20] <tabularasa> SQL backend or something?
[20:46:28] <BigSamoan> yes
[20:46:33] <BigSamoan> it's microsoft dynamics
[20:46:43] <BigSamoan> sql database driven enterprise accounting
[20:46:54] <BigSamoan> so if I just changed people to the offline plugin
[20:47:11] <BigSamoan> I should be able to do this without changing the secure gateway or any other settings
[20:48:18] <BigSamoan> I wonder if this would happen if I just used the server 2008R2 application publishing through remote desktop....
[20:48:34] <BigSamoan> hey Tabularasa, what are the caveats for streaming app
[20:48:51] <tabularasa> it hardly works
[20:48:59] <BigSamoan> meaning what?
[20:49:02] <BigSamoan> connectivity issues?
[20:49:11] <BigSamoan> we literally spent 60,000 on this system
[20:49:20] <BigSamoan> new servers, new client machines
[20:49:24] <BigSamoan> I have to make this work
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[20:49:38] <BigSamoan> at this point my options are offline plugin
[20:49:51] <BigSamoan> or publish word and excel through xenapp as well?
[20:49:55] <BigSamoan> will that resolve it?
[20:51:31] <BigSamoan> also it says on the webiste I must install the online plugin before the offline plugin
[20:51:35] <BigSamoan> is that true?
[20:51:41] <tabularasa> yes, thats true
[20:51:59] <BigSamoan> so if I published word and excell along with dynacs
[20:52:02] <tabularasa> what you need to do is build a "profiling" machine and run the streaminng profiler against the app
[20:52:05] <BigSamoan> *dynamics
[20:52:11] <tabularasa> ugh, dynamics..
[20:52:18] <tabularasa> good luck profiling that.  :)
[20:52:23] <BigSamoan> don't get me started
[20:52:24] <BigSamoan> I hate it
[20:52:28] <BigSamoan> but not my choice
[20:52:34] <tabularasa> that will create a package that you can deploy to your clients
[20:52:45] <tabularasa> don't publish word and excel, those need to be local files for your clients
[20:52:52] <BigSamoan> ugh
[20:52:53] <tabularasa> it basically runs the program locally on the server
[20:52:55] <tabularasa> ?
[20:53:08] <BigSamoan> so basically I need to get this damn streaming profiler running or I'm fubar
[20:53:47] <BigSamoan> can I use the server I have setup to run CSG and Licensing as my profiler?
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[20:55:48] <tabularasa> no, you need a blank system, thats identical to the workstation operating system thats going to be running it
[20:56:03] <tabularasa> IE, you need a Windows XP box if you are running XP.. and a Windows 7 box if you are running 7..
[20:57:12] <tabularasa> make sense?
[21:03:45] <BigSamoan> BRUTAL!
[21:03:52] <BigSamoan> we have more than one OS running
[21:03:55] <tabularasa> Its actually pretty nice when it works
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[21:04:01] <tabularasa> you can profile it for multiple OS's
[21:04:02] <BigSamoan> XP, a single vista and Win 7
[21:04:03] <tabularasa> at the same time
[21:04:13] <tabularasa> Win7 can profile for Vista, technically
[21:05:59] <manoot> man this channel is about as helpful as a bag of weiners
[21:06:11] <tabularasa> ?
[21:06:28] <tabularasa> did you read the topic?
[21:07:09] <BigSamoan> thanks for your help Tabularasa
[21:07:12] <tabularasa> kdavy_ Splatone Ownage are big XenServer guys... must not be around atm
[21:07:24] <tabularasa> BigSamoan: sure.. good luck... streaming is great if you can get it to work
[21:08:19] <manoot> really annoying...
[21:08:22] <manoot> load driver.. have 4TB of Raid 10
[21:08:33] <manoot> yet XenServer still tells me not enough space to install
[21:08:43] <tabularasa> ugh, that is annoying
[21:09:05] <manoot> and then reboots.
[21:09:08] <manoot> =/
[21:12:04] <Rienzilla> hmm
[21:12:22] <Rienzilla> anyone upgraded debian systems from lenny to squeeze on a xenserver host here?
[21:12:35] <Rienzilla> My first try resulted in pygrub puking and not being able to boot the machine in pv mode
[21:14:09] <manoot> welp, i think i may have figured it out
[21:14:32] <manoot> another guy says he couldn't get xenserver to install on Raid Array's larger then 2TP
[21:14:32] <manoot> TB
[21:14:37] <manoot> once he repartitioned into smaller then 2TB it worked.
[21:14:39] <manoot> and installed....
[21:15:14] <tabularasa> that actually makes sense
[21:15:28] <tabularasa> vmware can't address anything larger than 2TB also
[21:15:31] <tabularasa> i didn't think of that
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[21:23:14] <manoot> me either
[21:23:17] <manoot> no raid 10 :(
[21:23:24] <manoot> redoing it in multiple Raid 1's
[21:23:26] <manoot> instead.
[21:23:30] <tabularasa> bah
[21:23:40] <manoot> sad face
[21:23:46] <tabularasa> can you create 2 containers in the RAID-10 set?
[21:24:26] <manoot> not enough drives
[21:24:42] <manoot> only 4 16k SAS drives
[21:25:18] <tabularasa> can't you create multiple smaller chunks of those 4 disks in the RAID-10 set?
[21:25:27] <tabularasa> i know you can with RAID-1
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[21:31:15] <tabularasa> hey Ownage
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[21:34:55] <fipu> Hi
[21:35:17] <fipu> If I get a network management card for my APC smart UPS, how can I shutdown my xenserver (host) automatically?
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[21:44:08] <Ownage> tabularasa: hello
[21:45:03] <manoot> man this is the beafiest xenserver i've built... 2x Xeon 5620, 96GB Ram, 4x 2TB 15k Sas Drives
[21:45:44] <Ownage> way overkill on the ram imo
[21:45:53] <Ownage> you are going to bottleneck on cpu in that config
[21:45:57] <Ownage> depending on your app
[21:46:53] <manoot> got a good deal on the memory
[21:47:04] <manoot> got it half priced on open box
[21:47:38] <manoot> we're running a bunch of propritary engines for VoIP technology
[21:49:41] <Ownage> you've got 8:1 ram:core
[21:49:57] <Ownage> so just keep that in mind when making your vms
[21:50:04] <Ownage> don't make 30 vms with 512 ram =]
[21:50:28] <manoot> nah we do 2-4GB each. Asterisk tends to leak memory like no other.
[21:50:56] <tabularasa> we have 96 gigs of RAM on our VMware boxes and we are bottleneck'd on RAM... alot
[21:51:10] <tabularasa> CPUs hardly spike to 5% utilization but we are out of memory
[21:51:28] <tabularasa> we could easily use a box with twice that
[21:51:46] <tabularasa> thats doubley true for a host for just VDIs.... 0 CPU.. lots of RAM
[21:52:32] <manoot> beautiful... if i didn't spend 2hrs figuring out that xen won't install on a drive larger then 2TB i'd be happier
[21:52:33] <makson> tabularasa: what's your cluster look like for VDI? few servers with 96GB of ram?
[21:52:36] <manoot> have a good day all, thanks for help tab
[21:52:49] <tabularasa> yes
[21:52:53] <tabularasa> np man. have a good one
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[22:00:22] <manoot> well, here's a problem i've never seen before...
[22:00:29] <manoot> first time booting xenserver, it gets to the Citrix Xenserver splash screen then sits there
[22:00:39] <manoot> and the Capslock + Scrolllock on my keyboard begin flashing
[22:00:46] <manoot> on and off.
[22:04:22] <tabularasa> Thats a feature
[22:05:47] <manoot> heh
[22:05:50] <manoot> in linux its a kernel panic
[22:06:04] <manoot> but since the citrix flash screen is up
[22:06:06] <manoot> i dont know what is panicing
[22:06:06] <manoot> or why
[22:06:26] <tabularasa> theres a way to bypass the splash screen... Esc ?
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[22:09:57] <manoot> does nothing
[22:10:01] <manoot> maybe i should do it right away
[22:15:50] <manoot> Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!
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[22:21:43] <manoot> http://forums.citrix.com/message.jspa?messageID=1514686
[22:21:52] <manoot> that is my exact problem except i'm using Raid 1
[22:21:53] <manoot> not Raid 5
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[22:32:53] <tabularasa> oh nice... i can't get into the DSC on any box
[22:34:22] <tabularasa> awesome... wtf...
[22:34:49] <makson> tabularasa: what's hte error?
[22:35:15] <tabularasa> Check the server name is correct, the server is on, that xenapp is installed, or that citrix mfcom is running
[22:35:18] <tabularasa> ffs...
[22:36:45] <tabularasa> always worked before...
[22:39:11] <tabularasa> i'm stupid
[22:39:30] <tabularasa> i was logged in as local admin
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[22:44:16] <manoot> i think i figured it out tab.
[22:44:17] <manoot> :)
[22:44:35] <makson> kol
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[22:45:18] <manoot> During installition since I had to compile my own drivers since my raid controller isnt natively supported it wants me to load then twice.. once to install and once during supplimental pack install
[22:45:27] <manoot> seems kinda weird, original install i didnt do it a 2nd time.
[22:45:36] <manoot> haven't rebooted yet, but hoping for the best!
[22:48:45] <manoot> that fixed it
[22:48:50] <manoot> weird quirks
[22:49:26] <manoot> up and running :)
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[23:00:57] <tabularasa> so, i turned off one of my xenapp servers, cloned it, sysprepped it and redeployed it
[23:01:14] <tabularasa> it joined the farm automatically and everything appears to be up, but its not connecting
[23:01:39] <tabularasa> i'm going to troubleshoot it, but wasn't sure if anyone else has done this before
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[23:03:56] <JarianGibson> tabularasa: what did you use to clone?
[23:04:02] <JarianGibson> xenappprep?
[23:04:06] <JarianGibson> or this xenapp6?
[23:04:22] <tabularasa> XA6.. and i just turned it off and cloned it with vmware
[23:04:46] <JarianGibson> did you use server config tool?
[23:05:01] <tabularasa> nope
[23:05:10] <tabularasa> i thought that was depreciated
[23:05:20] <JarianGibson> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX124981
[23:06:13] <tabularasa> http://i56.tinypic.com/152hmih.png
[23:07:13] <tabularasa> yeah, i certainly didn't do that
[23:07:25] <JarianGibson> command prompt enablelb
[23:07:44] <tabularasa> ?
[23:08:11] <JarianGibson> that picture shows hmr removed it from load balancing
[23:08:16] <tabularasa> yup
[23:08:23] <JarianGibson> open cmd on that server and run enablelb
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[23:08:35] <JarianGibson> then do a qfar, /load and it should show up
[23:08:39] <JarianGibson> qfarm
[23:09:12] <tabularasa> heh, doesn't even show up in the qfarm command
[23:09:24] <tabularasa> might be my issue
[23:09:28] <JarianGibson> enablelb should make it show up
[23:09:42] <JarianGibson> if not may have to do clone again using newer server config tool
[23:10:25] <tabularasa> enablelb ftw
[23:10:47] <tabularasa> wow, if thats it... score for imaging
[23:11:39] <makson> JarianGibson: what's enablelb do?
[23:11:59] <tabularasa> it sucessfully adds servers to the load balance table
[23:12:01] <makson> tabularasa: XA6 cloning tool is great. Use it all the time.
[23:12:25] <makson> tabularasa: So theres load evaluators then load balancing policies which is new in XA6
[23:12:32] <makson> or wait did load baalncing policies exist in XA5?
[23:12:43] <makson> or maybe it's just the worker group part that was added in LBP in XA6.
[23:13:06] <tabularasa> xa6 cloning tool?
[23:13:10] <tabularasa> bah, i gotta run
[23:13:49] <fipu> So, I'm using ESXi now :-)
[23:14:21] <fipu> seems to be better then xenserver... Independent disks are official supported and I can passthru my APC UPS :-)
[23:15:16] <manoot> tabularasa: do you know what Ownage was refering to? Is there a limitation on the number of virtual machines I can create based on CPU cores?
[23:15:26] <manoot> when he said I have an 8:1 Memory/Core ratio
[23:15:34] <manoot> discussing it with my boss and we're both a bit puzzled.
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