[00:01:49] <hcb> When I comment it out, Chromium loads but immediately closes when I click the vertical "..." to get options.
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[00:02:32] <hcb> I tried commenting it out and changing the first argument for the separator below it to 0, but that didn't work either.
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[00:44:48] <hcb> ellyjones: I tried letting it add the "History" item and then using RemoveItemAt(0) but it still crashes.
[00:45:09] <hcb> I don't know why it's crashing simply because it is missing a menu item.
[00:49:16] <hcb> torne: Are available to help with a UI question?
[00:49:20] <hcb> *Are you
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[00:56:57] <hcb> Anyone online right now who can help with some GUI code?
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[01:12:16] <hcb> jrmuizel: Can you offer advice for some GUI code I'm working with? (I'm not sure which part of Chromium you work on)
[01:12:43] <jrmuizel> hcb: I don't work on chromium at all
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[01:13:05] <hcb> Oh, okay.
[01:13:53] <hcb> I'm working on my own version right now and I wanted to remove "History" from the "History" submenu, but when I comment out that entry, Chromium crashes when I open the options menu.
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[01:40:55] <hcb> Never mind, I think I solved my issue.
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[03:35:43] <hcb> ^- I restored History to being clickable on the main menu like it was in older versions, and the History sub-menu from newer versions is now called "Recent tabs".
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[10:17:11] <Tarnyko> hi chromiumers
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[12:00:37] <j`ey> does chrome/v8 use llvm's compiler-rt?
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[13:14:29] <kubast2-2> Hey I asked at #webkit and #firefox, I got proposed 3 solutions; brew.sh phantomjs fluyt, and I presume the 2 channels often are inhabitted by different people. Hey I would like to ask, I kinda would need something that would behave like a web browser but had a programming interface to extract the current snapshot of a web page, ability to extract DOM contents/contents of a web page without tags and majority of css options, and I
[13:14:31] <kubast2-2> *the 3 this included
[13:15:25] <kubast2-2> *and I'm asking this channel for the first time
[13:15:46] <kubast2-2> Replace webkit with blink+v8
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[13:41:05] <be-p> guys can I force chromium developers tool to override a .js file with a local version of it
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[13:41:44] <j`ey> thakis_: hey, does chrome/v8 use llvm's compiler-rt?
[13:42:06] <j`ey> I looked in my ./third_party/llvm-build, I dont see it, but maybe I missed it
[13:42:08] <thakis_> j`ey: "it depends"
[13:42:15] <thakis_> we use compiler-rt/lib/asan
[13:42:16] <thakis_> and ubsan
[13:42:17] <thakis_> and lsan
[13:42:20] <thakis_> and cfi
[13:42:25] <thakis_> and libprofile
[13:42:59] <thakis_> and libcalgn_rt.ios
[13:43:03] <thakis_> and libfuzzer
[13:43:09] <thakis_> `third_party/llvm-build/Release+Asserts/lib/clang/9.0.0/lib/darwin/`
[13:43:15] <thakis_> (and the other os's)
[13:43:19] <j`ey> ok, I was thinking of the builtins
[13:43:45] <thakis_> "builtins" is a somewhat overloaded term :)
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[13:44:20] <thakis_> there's two kinds of compiler built-ins too: functions either defined as inline asm in .h files shipped with clang, and functions whose definitions live inside clang that clang emits as needed if referenced
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[13:44:25] <thakis_> we use these two kinds of builtins
[13:44:39] <be-p> if someone answerd me i've crashed, sorry
[13:44:52] <thakis_> for cases where clang generates a call to the rt library, we don't use comipler-rt for that
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[13:45:50] * hwennborg waves at thakis
[13:46:01] <thakis_> hwennborg: o/
[13:46:15] <be-p> lol thank you thakis_
[13:46:43] <be-p> but how should I do if I want to put a 'debugger;' statement in the middle of a minified js ?
[13:47:23] <thakis_> j`ey: yup, don't use those. (i suppose on darwin we use them via system compiler-rt)
[13:47:48] <j`ey> thakis_: thanks!
[13:47:51] <hwennborg> j`ey: i think we're just doing the default thing, which on linux means libgcc and on windows means some windows lib, and on mac means the system's compiler-rt
[13:48:18] <thakis_> on windows i think it also means linker error if you multiply two int128s :)
[13:48:24] <hwennborg> right
[13:48:32] <j`ey> hwennborg: makes sense, I just thought perhaps it might be bundled, since other stuff seems to be!
[13:49:01] <hwennborg> maybe we should at some point, because as thakis said, there are sometimes problems
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[15:42:26] <hcb> Tarnyko: I'm glad to see you're back. Will we be able to work together on resolving some linker/dependency stuff today?
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[15:58:45] <ellyjones> morning folks :)
[16:00:25] <hcb> Good morning ellyjones
[16:00:41] <hcb> Have you seen the UI changes I did yesterday?
[16:00:45] <ellyjones> I have not
[16:00:53] <ellyjones> what are you changing?
[16:01:12] <hcb> Well, so far I changed the audio player and some entries on the main menu.
[16:01:18] <hcb> In addition to the tab shape and color.
[16:01:58] <hcb> I also changed "Duplicate" to "Clone tab" like in Opera.
[16:02:08] <ellyjones> neat
[16:02:15] <ellyjones> what are you overall working towards here?
[16:03:10] <hcb> I want my custom Chromium build to look more like older versions, for example a narrow dark gray audio player and a clickable History option on the main menu. Tarnyko and myself are working on Discord to add XP support.
[16:03:18] <ellyjones> ahh
[16:03:42] <ellyjones> oh, you are collaborating over Discord, to re-add XP support to Chromium?
[16:03:46] <hcb> You can see in the second pic that I kept the History sub-menu but changed it to say "Recent tabs".
[16:03:54] <ellyjones> I was going to point out that Discord is closed-source :P
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[16:04:07] <ellyjones> cool, best of luck!
[16:04:11] <hcb> Oh yeah, I can see the ambiguity.
[16:04:16] <hcb> Thank you
[16:04:47] <hcb> "oh, you are collaborating over Discord, to re-add XP support to Chromium?" Yes
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[16:06:37] <hcb> That was weird. I feel like the question I just answered was inserted above a message I sent.
[16:07:45] <ellyjones> IRC does not have such a behavior
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[16:32:26] <thakis_> ellyjones: also, are you sure that irc doesn't reorder messages?
[16:32:29] <thakis_> ellyjones: morning!
[16:32:37] <ellyjones> thakis_: IRC can reorder messages
[16:32:56] <ellyjones> or rather, different clients can have different views of what order messages were in
[16:33:09] <ellyjones> but it can't do the thing Slack/Discord does where the client has one view of message order, then updates it later
[16:33:17] <j`ey> it just re-ordered messages for me, thakis_ said morning after askign that question :P
[16:33:45] <thakis_> but i think i've never seen it happen
[16:33:46] <thakis_> oh interesting, i didn't now that
[16:34:15] <thakis_> j`ey: when i woke up this morning i realized that time is passing in reverse for me today, maybe it's just htat
[16:34:28] <j`ey> :)
[16:34:42] <ellyjones> eg, in Slack if I try to send a message from the mobile client at time T, and some other people talk at T + n, and my client can't get my message through to the server until T + 2n, Slack will reorder my view of when the messages happened so that my message is after theirs
[16:34:53] <ellyjones> but if I do the same in irssi, my message (from my pov) will stay as being at time T
[16:35:13] <ellyjones> there can also be disagreements about message ordering at the server side, since IRC is only weakly consistent in a distributed systems sense
[16:35:55] <thakis_> probably something to do with slack and irc measuring time in different inertial frames
[16:36:11] <j`ey> so irssi draws your text immediately? and just assumes the others will get it, with slack you draw it once you know the serve recieved the message
[16:36:15] <j`ey> or somethng like that?
[16:36:27] <ellyjones> j`ey: precisely
[16:36:48] <ellyjones> IRC does not have "remote echo" - i.e., when you send a channel message, the server *doesn't* send it back to you
[16:37:02] <ellyjones> so your IRC client has no way of knowing when it was received by the server - it just sticks it into your buffer as soon as it was sent
[16:37:15] <ellyjones> which may be quite distant temporally from when the server received it
[16:38:36] <ellyjones> thakis_: IRC does not bother to abstract away the fact that there are separate servers involved :) it's just like "the network isn't consistent, sorry!"
[16:38:56] <ellyjones> an admirably unixy approach to the problem
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[16:56:03] <hcb> How would I change a define in cflags? I see a file containing cflags in Chromium's code search called gn/build/gen.py but I don't have such a file.
[16:56:27] <ellyjones> that's used for building gn
[16:56:33] <ellyjones> which you probably are not doing
[16:57:10] <caitp> I think you can do something like `gn args --list <builddir>` to see all of the supported gn options, or read BUILD.gn files and look for something that defines the CFLAG you want
[16:57:17] <caitp> something like that... it's been a while :)
[16:57:54] <ellyjones> hello caitp!
[16:58:18] <caitp> hello ellyjones!
[16:58:24] <ellyjones> another IRC holdout, I see :)
[16:58:55] <gsnedders> Who needs consistent message ordering? Pff. IRC4evar 💖
[16:59:09] <hcb> I've checked a couple of build.gn's and I'm not finding what I need to change.
[16:59:15] <ellyjones> gsnedders: amen, IRC life
[16:59:47] <caitp> which cflag in particular do you care about?
[17:00:35] <hcb> _WIN32_WINNT and and I think WINVER
[17:01:00] <hcb> I see D_WIN32_WINNT defined in several places in the code search.
[17:01:08] <hcb> For example, src/third_party/grpc/src/config.w32.
[17:01:35] <ellyjones> you won't see it with the leading 'D' because gn has a syntax specifically for adding -Dfoo to cflags
[17:01:44] <ellyjones> namely defines = [ ... ]
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[17:02:02] <ellyjones> anyway, my usual way of finding a thign like that is codesearch for the token in question with file:.gn
[17:02:09] <ellyjones> and sometimes -file:third_party
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[17:02:51] <hcb> Thank you. I think I was editing that file earlier and just didn't know this flag was there.
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[18:40:41] <ellyjones> I think that getting modern chromium to run on winxp will be more like finding a stack of needles hidden inside a larger stack of hay
[18:40:46] <ellyjones> and all the needles are very sharp
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[18:44:15] <Tarnyko> what about Win2000 ? I still have a client with a few machines running this
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[18:44:27] <ellyjones> that will be even more of an undertaking that Windows XP
[18:44:55] <Tarnyko> we should ask if he's interested, and if he says so, start counting out time ^^
[18:45:12] <deviantfero> hey guys, I was wondering where I could find more info on gtk's native theme support for chromium, I'm currently writing a GTK theme and I would love to switch up the colors here and there
[18:45:15] <deviantfero> nothing to fancy
[18:45:15] <torne> i would not be surprised if progress toward modern chromium running on XP is slower than the rate at which XP machines go out of service :)
[18:45:32] <deviantfero> but can't seem to find docs on which classes do what on chromium, just some of them
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[18:45:33] <torne> but if someone's going to pay you to do it then hey
[18:45:50] <ellyjones> just so you understand the magnitude of the task here, it's very possible that we will add *new* code that does not run on WinXP faster than you are able to port to WinXP
[18:46:13] <ellyjones> there are ~hundreds of chromium devs and probably 5-6 people who work solely on Windows stuff, even before you add whoever from Microsoft is working on Edge
[18:46:32] <torne> yeah i would not be surprised if this speeds up with contributions from Edge developers :)
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[18:47:38] <ellyjones> it's almost certainly a better use of your (and everyone's) time to push people to upgrade to Win7 or Win10 than it is to backport a codebase the size of Chromium
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[18:49:16] <gsnedders> Tarnyko: pretty sure ReactOS predates Win2000; probably was NT4 originally?
[18:49:45] <Tarnyko> have you read Terry Pratchett ? "Why did they build gigantic cratertubs of lava for their machines instead of using lasers ? - Because they found it cool and could do it".
[18:50:02] <ellyjones> if you are doing it for fun, then by all means, proceed
[18:50:11] <ellyjones> but if you were doing it for work purposes I was going to ask you to reconsider :P
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[18:50:26] <Tarnyko> gsnedders: indeed it was NT. Win9x was out of question even back then
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[18:56:31] <Tarnyko> let me check what is running XP here... an embedded arcade machine, my bank's ATM. Unlucky me: the ATM's keyboard leaves to be desired ^^
[18:56:44] <ellyjones> haha oh dear
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[19:00:42] <Abdu_Ameen> In manage_passwords_state.cc in "chrome/browser/ui/passwords" there is AppendDeepCopyVector(). I'm changing the form_fetcher_impl which is interfering with this function. What exactly is that function doing?
[19:02:12] <hcb> Anyone know what type CRITICAL_SECTION is?
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[19:04:52] <hcb> It seems to be an alias for OSLockType.
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[20:01:04] <hcb> Tarnyko helped me replace all the SRW locks we could find and after much trial and error, it seems to be compiling.
[20:01:51] <Tarnyko> Beware, there may still be some of them lurking around ^^
[20:02:45] <hcb> I thought we replaced the interface everything connects to.
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[20:03:39] <hcb> It compiled about 394 targets before failing again.
[20:04:49] <Tarnyko> I guessed more work never fails to show ^^
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[20:05:32] <hcb> I pasted the error in Discord.
[20:05:39] <hcb> Tarnyko ^
[20:05:53] <ellyjones> if y'all are mostly coordinating with each other, and not asking questions or speaking for a wider audience, could you coordinate in a different place?
[20:06:06] <ellyjones> I look at this channel often to see if there are questions/etc and I keep seeing traffic that is really just between you two :)
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[20:07:46] <thakis_> i think it's fun to watch
[20:07:52] <thakis_> isn't all that busy in here anymore anyhow
[20:08:22] <ellyjones> yeah, that's true
[20:08:32] <ellyjones> maybe I just need to read IRC less often than once every 15 seconds
[20:08:33] <hcb> ellyjones: Okay
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[20:22:51] <Abdu_Ameen> ellyjones: What does manage_password_state do?
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[20:23:54] <Abdu_Ameen> manage_passwords_state
[20:23:56] <Abdu_Ameen> my bad
[20:30:13] <Abdu_Ameen> in AppendDeepCopyVector() in manage_passwords_state, it is creating a new form right?
[20:30:31] <Abdu_Ameen> on this line. result->push_back(std::make_unique<autofill::PasswordForm>(*form));
[20:30:37] <ellyjones> sorry, we're super far out of my area here
[20:31:01] <Abdu_Ameen> no problem
[20:31:12] <ellyjones> you might need to contact the owners for that code, probably via email
[20:32:00] <Abdu_Ameen> Ok thanks
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[21:27:40] <Abdu_Ameen> If I want to run a unit-test for a specific component, how do I do this?
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[21:29:02] <Abdu_Ameen> but how would i know if my unit test is included in the filter?
[21:30:24] <ellyjones> just do: out/rel/unit_tests --gtest_filter=YourSuite.YourTest
[21:30:32] <ellyjones> right? if it's included you will see it run, if not you won't
[21:30:55] <Abdu_Ameen> What is your suite?
[21:31:08] <ellyjones> if your test is TEST(Foo, Bar) the suite is foo
[21:31:10] <ellyjones> er is Foo
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[21:34:21] <Abdu_Ameen> thats the same with test_f?
[21:35:29] <ellyjones> yup, TEST_F(Foo, Bar) creates a test with suite name Foo and test name Bar
[21:35:44] <Abdu_Ameen> Ok thanks for the help
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[23:44:19] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by hiroshige at google dot com: Tree is open (reverted CL that caused PRESUBMIT failures crbug.com/956247)
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[23:45:39] <prodigel> google-chrome IOS build issues are relevant on this channel?
[23:49:21]
<trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "gclient runhooks" on https://ci.chromium.org/p/chromium/builders/ci/linux-jumbo-rel/23706 "linux-jumbo-rel" from 69dc927d90f665ff2c1d6bce6e5b89dbf8dfc9ac: chromium-autoroll at skia-public dot iam.gserviceaccount.com,skhandelwa22@bloomberg.net,marcin@mwiacek.com,szager@chromium.org,drubery@chromium.org)
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[23:54:23] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Automatic: ヽ(^。^)ノ)
[23:55:35] <_Dark_> prodigel: yes
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<prodigel> I'm trying to understand if navigation within an iframe being lost when hitting the 'back' button is correct or not. A good example page: https://w3schools.com/htmL/html_iframe.asp If you click on menu items inside the example Iframe going back and forth works as expected on most platforms/browsers, with one notable exception; iOS Chrome. Even iOS Safari works. Could this be a bug or a 'feature'?