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[05:43:26] <hcb> This is with the latest depot_tools.
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[13:28:33] <emsjessec> what's the difference between transferred and resources in the Network Developer Tools tab?
[13:28:55] <emsjessec> 1.3 MB transferred and 4.0 MB resources
[13:29:12] <emsjessec> does that mean that 2.7MB was saved using compression?
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[14:54:42] <nick-s> Thought I'd mention it here before I put it in the bug tracker
[14:54:52] <nick-s> interestingly Safari has the same bug (but not Firefox)
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[15:06:28] <ellyjones> morning chromies :)
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[15:06:42] <ellyjones> nick-s: put it in the bug tracker!
[15:06:54] <ellyjones> not that surprised that it's in safari too, a lot of the layout code is currently quite similar to webkit
[15:07:00] <ellyjones> (although that'll change I think)
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[15:21:07] <nick-s> should probably have reported it from Chrome but whoops :P
[15:26:32] <ellyjones> in this community we respect and include firefox users :)
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[15:28:00] <ellyjones> nick-s: cheers, I've routed it
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[15:42:12] <nick-s> ellyjones: awesome :)
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[15:47:21] <thakis_> morning, ellyjonies :)
[15:47:43] <ellyjones> hi thakis_! how are you?
[15:47:54] <thakis_> i'm perfcrastinating
[15:48:50] <ellyjones> wh... what deadline are you even procrastinating on at this point?
[15:51:33] <gsnedders> There's always something to procrastinate from :)
[15:51:53] <ellyjones> don't procrastinate all the way into the next cycle, thakis_ :)
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[16:03:53] <hcb> My XP computer is at "Resolving deltas: 53%"
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[16:06:16] <ellyjones> git's kinda slow on Windows
[16:06:20] <ellyjones> I hope you have a lot of computer there
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[16:10:21] <hcb> ellyjones: I didn't realize it was always slow on Windows, although it is comparatively slow on my XP computer because it's older.
[16:13:40] <ellyjones> yeah
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[16:51:27] <Innuc> What is the preferred method of exiting kioskmode?
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[16:52:36] <ellyjones> quitting the entire browser
[16:52:50] <ellyjones> usually from outside the app since iirc we hide the usual controls used to do so
[16:54:07] <Innuc> Is there something other than a kill?
[16:54:17] <ellyjones> not really, no
[16:54:27] <ellyjones> kiosk mode isn't intended to be quit from within kiosk mode, because it's a kiosk
[16:54:51] <ellyjones> you could ctrl-c it, or you might be able to exit it via remote devtools
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[16:57:34] <Innuc> Right now I have chrome kiosk mode running a front end of a kiosk which is communicated to via a socket to a c# backend
[16:58:21] <ellyjones> makes sense
[16:58:27] <Innuc> Sometimes the application or chrome can crash so the front end needs to be reset
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[16:59:04] <Innuc> So I’m killing the parent and the remaining children processes once communication over the socket is lost
[16:59:26] <ellyjones> that sounds reasonable
[16:59:51] <Innuc> Okay, just wanted to make sure there was no cleaner way
[16:59:54] <Innuc> Thank you
[17:01:15] <ellyjones> well, any within-chrome way might be messed up if chrome's in a bad state
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[17:03:37] <Innuc> Yes, clearly if chrome is in a bad state a kill is necessary, but sometimes the application ends up in a bad state which a refresh can usually handle.
[17:03:57] <ellyjones> ahh
[17:04:06] <ellyjones> in that case, an extension is probably the right place to do the refresh
[17:05:39] <Innuc> Current I’m in an interesting place. I’m stuck with Chrome version 69 because the video files I’m using include some transparent bubbles (like the fizz of soda) and later versions of chrome those become black. I believe this is an issue within Pixi, but currently it’s preventing me from “upgrading out” of the whole browser crashing.
[17:05:53] <ellyjones> got it
[17:06:19] <Innuc> Thanks for your help
[17:06:51] <ellyjones> no worries
[17:07:07] <ellyjones> I think that pattern (kiosk mode app with cooperating extension & then external watchdog) is fairly common
[17:07:32] <Innuc> Yes currently my stack is missing the extension
[17:07:39] <Innuc> Makes good sense
[17:08:53] <Innuc> Do you have a reference for a cooperating extension?
[17:09:01] <ellyjones> I don't, sorry
[17:09:51] <Innuc> No problem
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[20:52:08] <thakis_> protip: don't cat a 21MB file in Terminal.app, it crashes it :(
[20:53:48] <thakis_> ah, kill-9'ing the cat process in iterm makes terminal.app recover eventually
[20:54:12] <thakis_> iterm 2 can handle this fine
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[21:00:42] <ellyjones> terminal.app tries hard
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[21:02:08] <hcb> "Syncing projects" is at 37% on XP.
[21:02:16] <hcb> I had to stop and redo the download with --no-history.
[21:02:22] <hcb> It's much faster now.
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[21:11:37] <virmaha> Hello, does lld-link inject __enclave_config symbol?
[21:13:52] <virmaha> j`ey: but libcmt.lib also has that symbol defined, so linker complains that the symbol was already found
[21:16:02] <j`ey> I dont know any details, just did a little googling/reading
[21:16:12] <pcc1> hmm, seems like we need to define the symbol conditionally
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[21:17:08] <pcc1> virmaha: could you file a bug at bugs.llvm.org?
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[21:17:31] <virmaha> pcc1: first I want to verify things with chromiums' build team
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[21:43:02] <thakis_> virmaha: pcc1 is chromium's build team
[21:43:09] <thakis_> *is on
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[21:49:45] <virmaha> thakis_: oops okay. sorry pcc1 for misunderstanding
[21:53:55] <virmaha> pcc1: looks like there's something which I am not understanding correctly.
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[22:14:35] <pcc1> virmaha: which libcmt.lib are you seeing the symbol in? I'm not seeing it defines in the libcmt.lib that chrome uses
[22:18:10] <virmaha> pcc1: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2017\Enterprise\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.15.26726\lib\x64
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[22:26:25] <pcc1> virmaha: that's newer than the version we're using. we're on 14.16.27023 and it's an undefined symbol in loadcfg.obj. in any case, we probably need to handle the case where the symbol is defined, so it would be good to file the bug
[22:26:38] <pcc1> s/newer/older/
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[23:12:43] <virmaha> pcc1: 14.16 should be newer than 14.15, right?
[23:13:56] <pcc1> virmaha: right, hence the s/newer/older/ in my next message :)
[23:14:54] <virmaha> pcc1: my bad. Sorry, so even in libcmt.lib of 14.15 it's undefined symbol
[23:16:38] <pcc1> virmaha: what is the actual error that you're getting? it should say which object file is defining the symbol. if it's saying libcmt.lib, it seems like a bug in how we're reading the object file
[23:17:55] <virmaha> pcc1: actually, sorry for troubling you. This issue doesn't happen locally but when we build stuff on our build infrastructure
[23:18:09] <virmaha> and there's difference in the way we consume libs on our build machine
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[23:43:37] <gbiv> who's a good person to bug about gs bucket acls? (i care specifically about gs://chromium-browser-clang, if it makes a difference)
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[23:49:07] <virmaha> pcc1: might be a bit off-topic for chromium but would appreciate your advice. So _enclave_config symbol is defined as external and undefined symbol by libcmt.lib (and other libs)
[23:52:15] <virmaha> pcc1: and linker is the one which provides that symbol, as evident by one of the above links. However, I get an error as 'lld-link: error: duplicate symbol: ___enclave_config in <internal> and in <internal>'
[23:52:37] <virmaha> so how can I figure out who's adding the extra symbol?
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