April 12, 2019 
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April 12, 2019 [00:07:52] *** thakis_ <thakis_!~thakis_@67.254.163.15> has joined #chromium[00:11:08] *** bashfulshell <bashfulshell!uid190567@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vnakgpdggkaerkmy> has joined #chromium[00:15:00] *** RT|Chatzilla <RT|Chatzilla!~chatzilla@reactos/tester/RT> has joined #chromium[00:18:12] <hcb> Why do I get errors like this when I try to compile the hello-world example for V8?[00:18:13] <hcb> ./include/v8.h:7172:5: error: typedef 'v8::UnhandledExceptionCallback' is initialized (use decltype instead)[00:20:43] *** rj1 <rj1!~rj1@unaffiliated/rj1> has joined #chromium[00:30:37] *** jwalden <jwalden!~waldo@2601:647:4280:ea1e:513:5adc:5c83:9193> has joined #chromium[00:31:52] *** darktears <darktears!darktears@kde/developer/menard> has joined #chromium[00:31:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v darktears[00:36:28] *** darktears <darktears!darktears@kde/developer/menard> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:43:27] *** wolfshappen_ <wolfshappen_!~wolfshapp@irc.furworks.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Waffs have technical problems too)[00:52:51] *** Chaos_Zero <Chaos_Zero!~Rboreal_F@rcb-fwall-00-users.pmacs.upenn.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:21:42] *** amfabaiste <amfabaiste!amfabaiste@ip98-186-247-88.mc.at.cox.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** phisch <phisch!~phisch@12.151.198.35.bc.googleusercontent.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** MoziM <MoziM!~alarm@ip98-164-249-59.oc.oc.cox.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** grkblood13 <grkblood13!~grkblood1@76.73.249.123> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** korans_ <korans_!~korans@46.254.250.65> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** rakuco <rakuco!~rakuco@46.101.211.41> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** saba <saba!~foo@unaffiliated/saba> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** justincohen_ <justincohen_!~quassel@32.168.73.34.bc.googleusercontent.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** tyranid_ <tyranid_!~forshaw@32.168.73.34.bc.googleusercontent.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** changseok <changseok!~changseok@mixmaster.gtisc.gatech.edu> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:21:42] *** shiron <shiron!~alvinhoch@unaffiliated/alvinhochun> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[01:26:01] *** amfabaiste <amfabaiste!~hph@ip98-186-247-88.mc.at.cox.net> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** phisch <phisch!~phisch@12.151.198.35.bc.googleusercontent.com> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** MoziM <MoziM!~alarm@ip98-164-249-59.oc.oc.cox.net> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** grkblood13 <grkblood13!~grkblood1@76.73.249.123> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** korans_ <korans_!~korans@46.254.250.65> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** rakuco <rakuco!~rakuco@46.101.211.41> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** saba <saba!~foo@unaffiliated/saba> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** justincohen_ <justincohen_!~quassel@32.168.73.34.bc.googleusercontent.com> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** tyranid_ <tyranid_!~forshaw@32.168.73.34.bc.googleusercontent.com> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** changseok <changseok!~changseok@mixmaster.gtisc.gatech.edu> has joined #chromium[01:28:00] *** shiron <shiron!~alvinhoch@unaffiliated/alvinhochun> has joined #chromium[01:29:33] *** thakis_ <thakis_!~thakis_@67.254.163.15> has quit IRC (Quit: thakis_)[01:32:11] *** bluezone <bluezone!uid104970@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wzuuxkorjjenliiw> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:38:45] *** Pazooza <Pazooza!~Pazooza@cpe-108-183-182-142.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #chromium[01:56:04] *** Pazooza <Pazooza!~Pazooza@cpe-108-183-182-142.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:57:34] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@207.154.217.17> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:57:48] *** wolfshappen <wolfshappen!~wolfshapp@irc.furworks.de> has joined #chromium[01:58:27] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@207.154.217.17> has joined #chromium[01:59:07] *** rego <rego!uid293518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmiwlwdokvuyrkod> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:02:30] *** maolang <maolang!~quassel@joltpq1712w-lp140-04-70-50-1-122.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Discuter simplement. 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I want to update slide 24 with a date and release number https://xiph.org/~negge/NAB2019.pdf[15:04:14] <unlord> commit is here: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/ede43457[15:04:58] <fippo> https://www.chromium.org/developers/calendar has the important dates[15:05:54] <fippo> https://storage.googleapis.com/chromium-find-releases-static/ede.html#ede43457 -- looks like its in 74 even?[15:05:58] *** Chaos_Zero <Chaos_Zero!~Rboreal_F@rcb-fwall-00-users.pmacs.upenn.edu> has joined #chromium[15:06:46] *** RandIter <RandIter!sid32215@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nmmsylxocwtwsoly> has joined #chromium[15:07:08] <RandIter> https://blog.acolyer.org/2019/04/12/master-of-web-puppets-abusing-web-browsers-for-persistent-and-stealthy-computation/[15:07:52] <RandIter> It makes no sense for service workers to keep running, especially without consent, after the tab is closed.[15:08:01] <RandIter> Why is this nonsense allowed...[15:08:17] <RandIter> It's a major security issue.[15:08:43] <unlord> Wow, nice[15:09:40] *** alexg__ <alexg__!~alex@77.211.175.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:09:51] *** regedit <regedit!uid150526@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-acmmyzygdfgaoshw> has joined #chromium[15:13:00] <ellyjones> good morning[15:13:35] <ellyjones> unlord: canary ships basically every day, it is not really part of the dev/beta/stable release train[15:14:25] <unlord> ellyjones: is fippo right though? dav1d will be in 74 week of Apr 23rd?[15:15:23] <ellyjones> I don't understand your question, sorry - the current canary (at least for Windows) is 75.0.3763.0, it has not been 74 in a long time[15:15:42] <ellyjones> https://omahaproxy.appspot.com/ tells you the current shipping version and commit on every channel[15:16:14] <unlord> ellyjones: I need the reverse look up, chromium commit to version number. I think fippo posted it[15:16:37] <fippo> unlord: yes, that is one of the tools on omahaproxy[15:17:08] <unlord> so, dav1d in 11 days?[15:17:14] *** javashin <javashin!~javashin@unaffiliated/javashin> has joined #chromium[15:17:15] <ellyjones> what is "dav1d"[15:17:23] <ellyjones> maybe that will help answer your question[15:17:31] <unlord> dav1d is an av1 decoder[15:17:34] <ellyjones> ahhh[15:18:55] <ellyjones> RandIter: this blog post is ignorant of, or chooses not to mention, that chrome terminates service workers some number of seconds after the last page they're servicing is closed[15:19:13] <ellyjones> (I suspect they are choosing not to mention it, since based on my reading of the paper it seems like they want to make a point about ServiceWorker being a bad idea)[15:19:40] <ellyjones> so yes, a ServiceWorker can continue to execute JS on a page's behalf for a while, but... well, people already thought of this clever technique :P[15:20:39] <ellyjones> in general if you see a new web API, it has been through an exhausting and lengthy standards process and the most obvious objections to it (like "won't this let people turn browsers into a botnet if anyone visits a page ever?") have been thought of and at least somewhat addressed[15:21:21] <ellyjones> that being said, it's always possible they found a bug in our implementation, in which case presumably they reported it in our bug tracker &c &c[15:24:29] <RandIter> Being *somewhat* addressed is not good enough.[15:24:47] <RandIter> I doubt the researchers are fradulent.[15:24:57] *** alexg__ <alexg__!~alex@static-113-16-229-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has joined #chromium[15:26:38] <RandIter> Link to research paper: https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss-paper/master-of-web-puppets-abusing-web-browsers-for-persistent-and-stealthy-computation/[15:27:40] <RandIter> If someone at Chromium takes security seriously, maybe they should follow up with the researchers if they haven't filed an issue.[15:27:50] *** astrofog 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it[15:34:47] <ellyjones> you are free to file a security bug: https://new.crbug.com[15:39:55] *** hcb <hcb!~hcb@108-230-136-222.lightspeed.clmasc.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:43:33] <RandIter> Is there a way for me to see which service workers are running, and which sites added them?[15:45:32] <ellyjones> chrome://serviceworker-internals/[15:45:55] <ellyjones> to find running ones, look for "Running Status:" as something other than "STOPPED"[15:46:21] <ellyjones> (I don't recommend starting random ones, they will likely get very confused)[15:52:30] *** alexg__ <alexg__!~alex@static-113-16-229-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:55:43] *** bluezone <bluezone!uid104970@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ciglpoyynllknhph> has joined #chromium[16:07:58] *** alexg__ <alexg__!~alex@77.211.177.107> has joined #chromium[16:12:03] *** m_kato <m_kato!~m_kato@61.120.204.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[16:12:07] <RandIter> That allowed me to 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I'm having some trouble using Background Sync API in Chrome. Seemingly randomly the sync event stops firing on the service worker and I can't figure out why. If I use Dev Tools -> Application -> Service Worker -> Sync to trigger the sync event, it always does. In my app I always use the same tag when calling register(...), but if I've understood the spec correctly, calling register again should always cause that specific registration/tag tuple to[19:46:52] <OscarZ_> go back to "pending" state and the event should fire again. If I call sync with some other tag string, it always fires, so it seems that specific "tag" is in some hanging state. Any ideas what might be causing this or how to debug this? 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