April 10, 2019 
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April 10, 2019 [00:05:09] *** diwr <diwr!~diwr@unaffiliated/diwr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:16:18] *** RT|Chatzilla <RT|Chatzilla!~chatzilla@reactos/tester/RT> has joined #chromium[00:17:43] *** Essadon <Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #chromium[00:30:55] *** bashfulshell <bashfulshell!uid190567@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibsdnqefmalmpgxp> has joined #chromium[00:36:31] *** monkeystance <monkeystance!~monkeysta@110-174-85-242.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:37:43] *** mgol <mgol!~m_gol@89-66-186-151.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:49:31] *** Essadon <Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Qutting)[01:01:08] *** thakis_ <thakis_!~thakis_@ool-2f10b513.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #chromium[01:01:38] *** bluezone <bluezone!uid104970@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-okmiryivcxspoatu> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:12:48] *** lajava <lajava!~javi@1.113.165.83.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:25:40] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on https://ci.chromium.org/p/chromium/builders/ci/linux-dbg/7157 "linux-dbg" from 9c63850f082b8128731a0983dbdf800d1c49f923: ydago at chromium dot org,victorvianna@google.com,chromium-internal-autoroll@skia-corp.google.com.iam.gserviceaccount.com,chromium-autoroll@skia-public.iam.gserviceaccount.com,iapres@microsoft.com,hongchan@chromium.org,wutao@chromium.org,chro[01:26:06] *** thakis_ <thakis_!~thakis_@ool-2f10b513.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: thakis_)[01:37:44] <leiz> Did we hit a V8 issue or a V8 flake?[01:41:58] *** rego <rego!uid293518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-znftwnfamlizszxy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:48:45] *** PastaPrime <PastaPrime!~PastaPrim@cpe-76-91-204-223.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #chromium[01:48:49] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by collinbaker at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (can't repro the build failure locally, waiting for next build...)[01:58:36] *** Randy_ <Randy_!~randy@freebsd/user/randy> has joined #chromium[02:01:56] *** Randy_ is now known as Randy[02:10:57] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by collinbaker at chromium dot org: Tree is open (build un-flaked)[02:11:56] *** krollin <krollin!~krollin@2620:149:f:1874:f5bd:3327:804b:83b9> has joined #chromium[02:22:11] *** m_kato <m_kato!~m_kato@61.120.204.220> has joined #chromium[02:24:58] *** nuh^ <nuh^!nuh@ip98-186-247-88.mc.at.cox.net> has quit IRC ()[02:27:41] *** darktears <darktears!~darktears@kde/developer/menard> has joined #chromium[02:27:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v darktears[02:43:11] *** darktears <darktears!~darktears@kde/developer/menard> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[02:43:23] *** darktears <darktears!darktears@kde/developer/menard> has joined #chromium[02:43:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v darktears[02:48:04] *** tassee <tassee!~tasse@55d461c2.access.ecotel.net> has joined #chromium[02:49:03] *** tasse <tasse!~tasse@55d4851f.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:49:03] *** tassee is now known as tasse[02:49:25] *** darktears <darktears!darktears@kde/developer/menard> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:37:03] *** PastaPrime <PastaPrime!~PastaPrim@cpe-76-91-204-223.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[03:38:27] *** nikitosiusis <nikitosiusis!~nikitos@2a00:14d0:0:60:1::1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:40:57] *** nikitosiusis <nikitosiusis!~nikitos@2a00:14d0:0:60:1::1> has joined #chromium[03:46:31] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on https://ci.chromium.org/p/chromium/builders/ci/mac-dbg/5846 "mac-dbg" from f22dec0e63baacba87ecf61f709dfaa44eb5a9c8: joelhockey at chromium dot org,chromium-autoroll@skia-public.iam.gserviceaccount.com,einbinder@chromium.org,nverne@chromium.org,boliu@chromium.org,thestig@chromium.org (:leiz),sky at chromium dot org,mattreynolds@google.com,fdegans@chromium.org,bsheedy@[03:53:27] *** darktears <darktears!darktears@kde/developer/menard> has joined #chromium[03:53:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v darktears[03:55:50] *** PastaPrime <PastaPrime!~PastaPrim@cpe-76-91-204-223.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #chromium[04:02:52] *** thakis_ <thakis_!~thakis_@ool-2f10b513.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #chromium[04:10:49] *** thakis_ <thakis_!~thakis_@ool-2f10b513.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: thakis_)[04:11:43] *** jwalden <jwalden!~waldo@2620:101:80fc:224:1921:10f8:76b4:f229> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805])[04:35:16] *** darktears <darktears!darktears@kde/developer/menard> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:35:48] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Automatic: 祝你好运！)[04:41:37] *** darktears <darktears!~darktears@kde/developer/menard> has joined #chromium[04:41:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v darktears[04:58:47] *** tassee <tassee!~tasse@55d484fa.access.ecotel.net> has joined #chromium[05:01:17] *** tasse <tasse!~tasse@55d461c2.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[05:01:17] *** tassee is now known as tasse[05:28:39] *** zeptoTon <zeptoTon!~zeptoton@n112120135101.netvigator.com> has joined #chromium[05:35:54] *** zeptoTon <zeptoTon!~zeptoton@n112120135101.netvigator.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[05:41:55] *** vitallium <vitallium!~vitaliy.s@86.110.182.234> has joined #chromium[05:49:18] *** darktears <darktears!~darktears@kde/developer/menard> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:59:43] *** vitallium <vitallium!~vitaliy.s@86.110.182.234> has quit IRC ()[06:16:38] *** nephyrin <nephyrin!~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2> has quit IRC (Quit: ... besides, it was hot)[06:44:16] *** iczero <iczero!iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero> has joined #chromium[06:49:17] *** scientes <scientes!~scientes@unaffiliated/scientes> has joined #chromium[07:14:04] *** himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf[07:23:44] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on https://ci.chromium.org/p/chromium/builders/ci/mac-dbg/5851 "mac-dbg" from 76aae627f5769815f0b79dc7a28e9df8e3bfb6c9: wpt-autoroller at chops-service-accounts dot iam.gserviceaccount.com,tasak@google.com,v8-ci-autoroll-builder@chops-service-accounts.iam.gserviceaccount.com)[07:23:45] *** Fusl__ <Fusl__!~fusl@opennic/fusl> has joined #chromium[07:26:25] *** Fusl <Fusl!~fusl@opennic/fusl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[07:34:15] *** sandlot <sandlot!~sandlotas@23-31-172-245-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #chromium[07:34:19] *** sauvin <sauvin!sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin> has joined #chromium[07:36:17] *** sandlotasn <sandlotasn!~manjaro-i@23-31-172-245-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:56:20] *** PastaPrime <PastaPrime!~PastaPrim@cpe-76-91-204-223.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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chrome's profile dir directly outside of the browser[21:34:44] <torne> cookies in particular are only read once, at startup, so there's no way[21:34:51] <ca_cabot> torne, ok thank you[21:35:09] <torne> if you want to edit the cookie jar contents in a programmatic way, you should write a chrome extension for it[21:35:13] <torne> rather than trying to do it from outside[21:36:06] <ca_cabot> torne, well I'm not a programmer at all so that's beyond me - it's also just for some personal use tweaks to selectively remove some obnoxious cookies so it's not really worth it - i'll just have to live with closing and opening the browser which is really no big deal[21:36:31] <torne> there's probably already an extension that can do what you want :)[21:36:53] <torne> or you could just block cookies for the origins in question entirely if that works for your use case[21:38:29] <ca_cabot> well it's for the website "wired.com" which iirc i think they put up a banner that stops you from browsing if you block their cookies - they also limit your browsing if you use an adblocker, which my entire network is under an adblocker - so it's easiest to just run a cron job that wipes cookies from wired.com regularly[21:39:28] *** cantstanya <cantstanya!~chatting@gateway/tor-sasl/cantstanya> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:41:03] <torne> there's a bunch of extensions that can delete cookies for particular sites, wouldn't be surprised if one of them can do it automatically on a timer[21:41:23] <torne> if you're having to restart the browser anyway you almost might as well just delete them from the chrome UI though[21:41:28] <torne> just in chrome://settings/siteData :)[21:48:03] *** darktears <darktears!~darktears@kde/developer/menard> has joined #chromium[21:48:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v darktears[21:51:14] <ca_cabot> torne, i mean it's not a big difference but it's quicker to just "alt+f4", "meta key", "'ope'+Ent" than to go into settings, find where all cookies are listed, search for wired, then delete them all.[21:52:13] <torne> just suggesting, whatever works for you :)[21:52:15] *** litherum <litherum!~litherum@2620:149:f:1870:c4ba:fe52:e50c:e8db> has joined #chromium[21:53:02] <ca_cabot> torne, thank you for your help![21:53:31] <torne> np[21:57:26] *** seventh <seventh!~seventh@185.34.136.13> has quit IRC (Quit: ...)[22:00:51] *** lajava <lajava!~javi@1.113.165.83.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com> has joined #chromium[22:13:41] *** ca_cabot <ca_cabot!~ca_cabota@66.115.168.5> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:13:41] *** alexg__ <alexg__!~alex@static-113-16-229-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:14:22] *** hcb <hcb!~hcb@108-230-136-222.lightspeed.clmasc.sbcglobal.net> has joined #chromium[22:14:57] <hcb> How hard would it be to convert Chromium's source to compile using just a Windows SDK and makefiles?[22:23:30] <torne> very[22:24:22] <torne> what's the actual problem you have?[22:24:28] *** MoziM 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Also, I hear that no one, even at Google, fully understands how chromium works.[22:27:46] <torne> GN is a much higher level language/tool than make; the equivalent makefiles would be enormous and extrmeley confusing[22:28:09] <hcb> I thought it would make it easier for me to go through the code and make custom changes.[22:28:24] <torne> i mean that depends what you mean by "fully understand" but generally yeah it's impossible for any human being to actually grok the entirety of a codebase that contains multiple millions of lines[22:28:44] <j`ey> hcb: the build system is pretty easy to use[22:29:15] <j`ey> (I only build v8, but I think it's similar for chromium as a whole)[22:30:57] <hcb> I was discussing how to make an XP-compatible fork with a couple of other guys (I know it's nearly impossible) and I thought the first step would be to migrate to a Windows SDK. I know Chromium used the Windows 7.1 SDK near the beginning.[22:31:12] <torne> we still use the windows sdk now[22:31:12] *** mstange_ is now known as mstange[22:31:17] <torne> to build for windows[22:31:31] <torne> (last i checked)[22:31:33] <hcb> Right, but I meant solely, without Visual Studio. I thought that might make this easier.[22:31:40] <hcb> Also using an older SDK.[22:31:56] <hcb> I know that will require a major overhaul.[22:32:17] <torne> i don't think it actually requires VS, just the right SDK components[22:32:18] <hcb> I'm not asking for help with the code so much as just trying to get an idea of what would be involved.[22:32:28] <torne> i dunno if they're all distributed separately though[22:32:34] <torne> i'm not sure exactly which tools/etc it calls into[22:32:45] <hcb> I know that in the early stages, Chromium needed the Windows 7.1 SDK and the WDK.[22:32:46] <torne> you aren't likely to be able to do anything about it, in any case[22:33:17] <torne> you also don't need to use an older SDK[22:33:18] *** noboruma <noboruma!~noboruma@213.146.129.60> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:33:38] <torne> current chrome doesn't run on XP because it relies on things that don't exist on XP, not because the SDK it's compiled against is too new[22:33:48] <hcb> Oh okay.[22:35:01] <hcb> I thought I could start with V8 for some practice backporting to XP, but even V8 needs GN and has to be compiled similarly to Chromium..[22:35:15] *** noboruma <noboruma!~noboruma@213.146.129.60> has joined #chromium[22:35:27] <torne> yes[22:35:39] <torne> i doubt that V8 actually requires any work at all to run on XP :)[22:35:45] <torne> i would be surprised if it doesn't just work[22:35:53] <hcb> Interesting[22:36:10] <hcb> I assumed that since it uses a modern build setup, it must not work on XP anymore.[22:36:11] <torne> i might be wrong[22:36:20] <torne> The build setup has nothing to do with OS support[22:36:24] <torne> and we've used GN for some time[22:36:54] <hcb> Slightly off-topic, but I noticed recently that 64-bit Windows XP seems to support elliptic-curve SSL.[22:37:01] <torne> not saying this to be rude/mean, but: if you don't already know how to determine these things yourself then you're unlikely to succeed with this project[22:37:17] <hcb> I understand and you're probably right.[22:37:53] <hcb> I'm discussing it on another forum as well. There's this guy who maintained XP compatibility for a while after Google stopped, and another guy who seems interested in helping.[22:52:00] *** darktears <darktears!~darktears@kde/developer/menard> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:53:01] *** kbrosnan <kbrosnan!~kbrosnan@firefox/community/qa/kbrosnan> has joined #chromium[22:54:45] <kbrosnan> I have an unknown version of libchrome.so. Is there a way to determine the version or git hash it was built of of?[22:55:23] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@207.154.217.17> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:55:50] *** rego <rego!uid293518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndkigyfskniheqrl> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:56:27] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@207.154.217.17> has joined #chromium[22:56:49] <leiz> kbrosnan: I don't think libchrome.so is even a build artifact.[23:00:50] <kbrosnan> this is off a custom android browser[23:01:18] *** noboruma <noboruma!~noboruma@213.146.129.60> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:02:17] <leiz> krollin: Maybe run "strings libchrome.so" and search for strings that look like "73.0.3683" ?[23:03:18] *** noboruma <noboruma!~noboruma@213.146.129.60> has joined #chromium[23:04:42] *** ajax16384 <ajax16384!~User@109.60.130.33> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:06:14] <krollin> s/krollin/kbrosnan/[23:06:49] <kbrosnan> thanks. say hi to dougt if you see him[23:11:02] <leiz> Beh, bad autocomplete.[23:12:16] *** krollin <krollin!~krollin@2620:149:f:1874:f5bd:3327:804b:83b9> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[23:20:28] *** rego <rego!uid293518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oikmkoyobgmirzxt> has joined #chromium[23:21:08] *** mgol <mgol!~m_gol@9dd3a2ad8e135.rev.snt.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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