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[00:05:26] <animi_vulpis> Hi, are question about potential bugs in the chrome-devtools "user questions"?
[00:06:07] <Torne> probably.
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[00:06:11] <Torne> but maybe not.
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[00:06:37] <Torne> devtools or not isn't really relevant there. this channel is about the development of the browser; a web developer is still a user of the browser, not a developer of the browser
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[00:07:01] <Torne> but if you think it's a bug then, the distinction is maybe not that importnat
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[00:07:57] <animi_vulpis> ok. I think a macOSX keyboard shortcut is preventing me to use the devtool-shortcut CTRL-SHIFT-A (add to watch) and CTRL-SHIFT-E (evaluate in console)
[00:08:38] <animi_vulpis> CTRL-SHIFT-A selects text from the cursor to the start of line and CTRL-SHIFT-E to the end of line.
[00:09:20] <Torne> that does seem like a bad choice of keybinding if that conflicts on osx
[00:09:23] <Torne> i'm not a mac user :)
[00:09:26] <Torne> i'd file a bug
[00:10:45] <animi_vulpis> Using the chrome menu "help"->"report an issue"? Or is there a better/more developer focused way?
[00:11:18] <Torne> crbug.com/new
[00:12:29] <animi_vulpis> Many thanks for your help Torne, have a nice evening/day/night
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[00:13:02] <Torne> no problem, thanks for reporting issues :)
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[11:48:09] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by emso at google dot com: Tree is open - change killing slaves has been reverted and rolled
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[12:59:55] <pierre365> hi!
[13:00:19] <pierre365> is this the right channel to ask chromium development question?
[13:03:15] <pierre365> I'm starting out reading the source code and trying to play with some things... as far as i understood, "ContentMainRunnerImpl::Initialize" is used to start the browser and every process being forked, right? I'v been trying the whole day how to put an IPC call here. I would like in this function to send a message from any subprocess to the browser..
[13:05:49] <pierre365> I'm a bit strugling to understand the docs :/ from what I understood from reading doc/code, to make it easy, I should put the receiver (IPC_MESSAGE_HANDLER) in RenderProcessHostImpl::OnMessageReceived , right ? but then, what I don't get is how to call the Send function.... I should get an object related to the browser having a send function available in "ContentMainRunnerImpl::Initialize".. does it exists? is there anyway to do that please?
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[13:07:18] <pierre365> this must be really easy, but I don't see which object has a Send function to the main browser
[13:07:34] <pierre365> if anyone has a clue/can point me to a file please :)
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[13:14:04] <pierre365> if I understand correctly, I would need to call "RenderProcessHostImpl::Send", but how to get this object in ContentMainRunnerImpl::Initialize ? :/
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[15:17:42] <ellyjones> pierre365: I would look for other places that send IPCs at renderer startup
[15:18:36] <pierre365> ellyjones: like where?
[15:18:53] <pierre365> i'm really new to chromium sorry for the noob question
[15:19:04] <pierre365> still struggling to warp my head around the code base
[15:19:24] <ellyjones> hmm, let me see if I can find one
[15:19:35] <pierre365> thanks :)
[15:24:21] <ellyjones> looks like you need a specific kind of IPC sender object on the renderer side depending on the category of your IPC message
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[15:27:33] <pierre365> ow that enum looks nice, thanks!
[15:30:08] <ellyjones> sure thing
[15:33:05] <pierre365> ellyjones: sorry but what do you mean by "a likely one of these"?
[15:33:25] <ellyjones> whichever category the message you're trying to add seems like it would fall into
[15:34:44] <pierre365> ellyjones: i see.. actually I'm trying to send a message to the browser ASAP after a fork happened
[15:35:52] <ellyjones> sounds like a ChildProcessMsg perhaps
[15:36:34] <ellyjones> so perhaps RenderThreadImpl::current()->Send(...)?
[15:38:19] <pierre365> wow thanks i'm looking at it
[15:38:53] <ellyjones> it would be a ChildProcessHostMsg really I guess
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[15:42:03] <pierre365> i see a shutdown process but no start related things :/
[15:43:12] <ellyjones> I thought you were trying to add a start related thing :P
[15:43:34] <pierre365> haha yes :)
[15:44:37] <ellyjones> so go add one somewhere after RenderThreadImpl is ready :)
[15:45:55] <pierre365> i see!!
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[16:18:17] <mozak> anyone know why flash doesent show font proper
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[16:27:47] <pierre365> ellyjones: that works so nicely, thanks
[16:29:51] <pierre365> ellyjones: i just have an issue.... I actually use that for a home made log system, init things and so on.. but sometimes, I need to log things before RenderThreadImpl::current() is available.. do you know if there is any way to do an IPC earlier by any chance?
[16:30:14] <pierre365> mozak: sorry!
[16:30:43] <mozak> what
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[16:35:00] <ellyjones> pierre365: I would not think you can do IPC before the IPC system is ready
[16:35:34] <pierre365> ellyjones: that's a fair point :/
[16:35:53] <pierre365> ellyjones: you can't imagine how much you helped thanks :)
[16:37:09] <ellyjones> no problem
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[16:50:54] <pierre365> i wish i got better at getting around the source code :/ except chromium.org do you have any other ressource by any chance?
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[17:09:35] <ellyjones> cs.chromium.org is the way and the light
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[17:12:51] <pierre365> haha it is nice indeed
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[19:52:16] <ellyjones> jugglinmike: your cl lgtm :)
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[19:53:05] <jugglinmike> Great! Starting CQ
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[20:12:02] * pierre365 wants to find a faster way to build chromium :/
[20:12:25] <ellyjones> release builds
[20:12:28] <ellyjones> and component builds
[20:12:41] <pierre365> what is that?
[20:13:09] <ellyjones> is_component_build = true makes us build chromium as a bunch of shared libraries that are linked together later
[20:13:15] <ellyjones> so if you change part of it you avoid the slow final link step
[20:13:25] <ellyjones> release builds have no debug info / etc, they are a bit faster to build (ime)
[20:13:31] <ellyjones> otherwise... big computer is the best way
[20:13:39] <ellyjones> my 64-core workstation can do a clean release build in about 15 minutes
[20:13:45] <pierre365> wow
[20:13:51] <pierre365> have to wait 30
[20:14:07] <pierre365> i'll check out is_component_build, thanks
[20:14:21] <ellyjones> it's worth doing
[20:14:24] <ellyjones> also enable_nacl = false is good
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[20:14:34] <ellyjones> because nacl takes a loooong time to compile and if you aren't testing with it is not relevant
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[20:16:33] <pierre365> the only places i can see those options are in tools/gn/secondary/base/BUILD.gn ?
[20:16:38] <pierre365> around there
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[20:17:23] <pierre365> man gn hmm
[20:17:26] <ellyjones> set them using 'gn args out/whatever'
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[20:22:37] <pierre365> ah haha my chromium version is tool old it seems
[20:22:55] <ellyjones> wha?
[20:23:03] <ellyjones> what version do you have checked out
[20:23:33] <pierre365> better not too tell haha
[20:23:40] <pierre365> i have a lot of legacy code in my pocket
[20:24:11] <ellyjones> yikes
[20:24:19] <ellyjones> well, I wash my hands of your build speed problems then
[20:24:23] <ellyjones> if your checkout predates gn
[20:24:37] <ellyjones> good luck :P
[20:25:24] <pierre365> thanks haha
[20:25:32] <pierre365> still don't know much about it sooo anyway
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[21:57:25] <maruel> scottmg: that's why you inject DLLs into it
[21:57:52] <scottmg> right, it's so conveniently configurable
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[22:05:02] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by iannucci at google dot com (:iannucci): Tree is open - and we're back
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[22:32:34] <hwennborg> does anyone know off-hand if we have a uma metric for the start-up time of render processes?
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[22:36:26] <scottmg> hwennborg: not quite what you want, but maybe Startup.BrowserMainToRendererMain is useful?
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[22:43:24] <hwennborg> scottmg: thanks, yes that's helpful
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