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[00:43:01] <danbeam> how does one go about moving a bot from FYI to main waterfall? anybody know?
[00:43:11] <danbeam> dpranke: ^ maybe?
[00:44:14] <qyearsley> I think it would involve updating all related configs (mostly in build, but maybe also a couple in src) and then restarting both masters (right?)
[00:46:53] <apacible> On the sheriff dashboard, anyone know what "API error 9 (memcache: )" means? Trying to refer to a crbug for a failure.
[00:47:13] <danbeam> qyearsley: yes, that's certainly the code changes
[00:47:23] <danbeam> qyearsley: was just wondering if there are criteria for these bots
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[00:48:02] <danbeam> qyearsley: the specific bots i want to move cycle in like 1m and are rock solid (not a failure currently in their short log memory)
[00:48:17] <danbeam> https://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.fyi/stats/Closure%20Compilation%20Linux
[00:48:36] <danbeam> and are basically already integrated pretty well into the CQ + try jobs for certain dirs
[00:48:37] <scottmg> to be on the waterfall it has to be on the cq
[00:48:42] <danbeam> scottmg: ^
[00:48:49] <scottmg> ya
[00:49:24] <danbeam> scottmg: we do CQ_INCLUDE_TRYBOTS in most relevant places
[00:49:27] <scottmg> if it's default cq, then as long as there's enough to handle the load i think it's fine
[00:49:29] <danbeam> scottmg: via presubmit
[00:49:39] <scottmg> that's all i know of at least
[00:51:15] <qyearsley> If there are corresponding try bots on the CQ and the builders appear stable, that sounds like they should be fine to put on the main waterfall AFAIK
[00:51:33] <danbeam> qyearsley, scottmg on many CQ'd changes, but not all
[00:52:30] <danbeam> there's really no reason to run it for all changes
[00:52:47] <danbeam> but it'd prettty much no-op in those cases
[00:53:23] <danbeam> https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/chrome/browser/resources/PRESUBMIT.py?l=127 here's an example
[00:53:47] <scottmg> yup, CQ_INCLUDE_TRYBOTS seems fine, it's just to make sure that anyone who uses the cq doesn't get reverted for something that later breaks on the waterfall
[00:54:12] <danbeam> well, that still happens, but yes it's a bummer when it does
[00:54:29] <scottmg> "try to make sure" then :)
[00:54:46] <danbeam> (meaning it's happened to me for all kinds of reasons, not necesarilly related to the specific bots i'm talking about)
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[02:18:24] <scottmg> how bout them webkit_layout_testws
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[02:54:40] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on /builders/Android/builds/72087 "Android" from 43535f1beb4135a9f860fdae5b99ec0a5e4e9374: davidben at chromium dot org,dbeam@chromium.org (:danbeam),dominickn at chromium dot org,estark@chromium.org,estevenson@chromium.org,hansberry@chromium.org,nednguyen@google.com,rbpotter@chromium.org,rch@chromium.org (:RyanHamilton),reillyg at chromium dot org (:reillyeon))
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[03:16:05] <apacible> If the rest of the logs is truncated, am I seeing a loading error (still says "loading streams at bottom) or is that the end of the logs? https://luci-logdog.appspot.com/v/?s=chromium%2Fbb%2Fchromium%2FAndroid%2F72087%2F%2B%2Frecipes%2Fsteps%2Fcompile%2F0%2Fstdout
[03:16:11] <apacible> ^ this is for tree closure..
[03:16:47] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Automatic: удачі!)
[03:16:56] <apacible> that also works ..
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[09:41:58] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on /builders/Linux%20x64/builds/39399 "Linux x64" from 9b107d47bd61d2ed77c923ad22dca27b226c9236: hpayer at chromium dot org)
[09:51:28] <yhirano__> tzik@ is reverting a CL... thank you!
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[10:02:04] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by yhirano at chromium dot org: Tree is open
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[14:31:12] <coffee`> is there an available "standalone" library in chromium to make http request
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[14:36:07] <pycer> > tfw i use firefox. chromium BTFO!
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[15:04:13] <maruel> coffee`: you mean using net as a library?
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[15:04:59] <coffee`> Yes, that's what I meant.
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[15:08:27] <ellyjones> coffee`: the net stack is not that easy to embed by itself, but there are ios and android wrapper libraries that make it easier to use there
[15:08:31] <ellyjones> I don't know of similar for desktop
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[15:10:20] <coffee`> OK, thansk for the answer
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[17:04:14] <thakis> scottmg: (let me know if you’d rather i not go through all those cls)
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[17:57:46] <iank___> It's expected that linux_chromium_rel_ng is still flaky this morning?
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[18:02:30] <thakis> iank___: we reverted a v8 roll yesterday night, which seemed to help. but then v8 rolled forward over the night again, with tentative fixes
[18:02:41] <thakis> iank___: looks like that caused this again. i reverted those v8 rolls
[18:02:46] <thakis> about 1.5h ago or so
[18:02:47] <thakis> maybe 1h
[18:03:02] <thakis> hm, but it looks like those reverts didn’t help
[18:03:07] <thakis> ( https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_rel_ng/builds/451831 was after them)
[18:03:14] <apacible> PST sheriff checking in
[18:03:30] <thakis> apacible: webkit_layout_tests is still aflame, e.g. https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_rel_ng/builds/451831
[18:03:41] <thakis> one of my cls went through over night, so i thought the v8 revert helped
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[18:03:48] <thakis> but 6 of my others consistently run tino this
[18:04:28] <apacible> hmm catching up on messages now
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[18:06:14] <thakis> iank___: star https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=720511 i guess
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[18:06:19] <thakis> sorry that things are so broken this week
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[18:12:49] <thakis> dpranke: is there a way to see text diffs of failing layout tests on bots? https://luci-logdog.appspot.com/v/?s=chromium%2Fbb%2Ftryserver.chromium.linux%2Flinux_chromium_rel_ng%2F451800%2F%2B%2Frecipes%2Fsteps%2Fwebkit_layout_tests__with_patch_%2F0%2Fstdout just says “text diff"
[18:12:51] <thakis> but doesn’t show the diff
[18:12:55] <coffee`> Can I compile the zlib thirdparty library as a standalone?
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[18:13:16] <iank___> thakis - np! Thanks for everything.
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[18:14:52] <thakis> so this one causes some of the errors: https://codereview.chromium.org/2865113006
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[18:20:00] <apacible> thanks for catching
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[18:23:35] <thakis> i tried reverting, but the revert doesn’t apply cleanly
[18:24:13] <fsod> Maybe revert https://codereview.chromium.org/2882433002 first
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[18:26:06] <thakis> oh hey
[18:26:45] <thakis> thanks, doing
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[18:40:42] <apacible> thakis let us know how it goes, thanks!
[18:40:56] <thakis> apacible: that went through, but it only helps with one of the failures
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[18:42:30] <apacible> ah nice, okay. 1 down. :) I can mark the test expectations as failures so we can get cq open
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[19:03:18] <apacible> thakis - sending out https://codereview.chromium.org/2874213003/ . I skipped adding the error from the patches you reverted, and added the rest of the errors from the past few runs.
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[19:03:58] <thakis> apacible: maybe they shoud be Failure Pass
[19:04:02] <thakis> but not sure
[19:04:14] <thakis> (else the bot will be rd when they pass, and they pass somewhat flakily)
[19:04:32] <apacible> ahh I see. updating. thanks for the catch
[19:04:35] <thakis> and at least one of them timed out
[19:04:40] <thakis> so maybe Pass Failure Timeout
[19:04:43] <thakis> \o/
[19:04:45] <thakis> err
[19:04:57] <thakis> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, i mean
[19:05:05] <apacible> do you remember which one timed out? I haven't seen that one
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[19:05:15] <apacible> or maybe I should just add PFT for them all since they're flaky..
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[19:08:06] <thakis> apacible: https://storage.googleapis.com/chromium-layout-test-archives/linux_chromium_rel_ng/451831/layout-test-results/results.html has that for document-domain-canonicalizes
[19:08:11] <thakis> but i’d probably just add it everywhere
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[19:49:39] <thakis> apacible: https://codereview.chromium.org/2874213003/ passed webkit_layout_tests on the linux bot, maybe `git cl land` in for expediency
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[19:53:27] <apacible> landed
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[19:56:45] <thakis> scottmg: did you see https://codereview.chromium.org/2784063002/diff/220001/build/config/compiler/BUILD.gn#oldcode342 ?
[19:57:00] <scottmg> doh!
[19:59:19] <thakis> scottmg: https://codereview.chromium.org/2784063002/diff/260001/build/config/compiler/BUILD.gn
[19:59:56] <scottmg> yah, i don't have a local diff program on linux :)
[20:00:06] <thakis> the amazing disappearing patchset!
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[20:01:29] <scottmg> no idea what you're talking about, i wouldn't make a dumb mistake like that :whistle:
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[20:03:04] <ellyjones> my desktop is getting like, 700KB/s from our git server
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[20:16:28] <yzshen> troopers: I am adding a new perf FYI bot. Any objection if I create a CL to restart chromium.perf.fyi?
[20:16:32] <yzshen> Thanks
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[21:10:10] <jamescook> sheriffs, I just reverted https://codereview.chromium.org/2873963004/ which I think is causing the ozone_unittest failures on Linux ChromiumOS Ozone Tests (1)
[21:10:10] <trungl-bot> yhirano, apacible, sebsg, grt, anthonyvd: ^^^
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[21:13:56] <apacible> thanks!
[21:14:07] <apacible> also going to to step away to grab some food real quick.
[21:14:25] <thakis> apacible: webkit tests seem better now
[21:14:46] <thakis> sadly they were broken over 24h, so all my other bot results on all my cls are now invalid and i have to wait for slow windows bots again :-P
[21:15:06] <apacible> yay! and 😕
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[21:25:46] <[Butch]> Is this an appropriate channel for asking chromeos/chromebook questions, in particular developer mode?
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[21:27:03] <[Butch]> Sorry, I just saw the header.
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[21:27:27] <apacible> (back)
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[22:04:10] <thakis> apacible: now that linux_chromium_rel is happy, win_chromium_rel is broken: https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.win/builders/win_chromium_rel_ng/builds/442191
[22:04:15] <thakis> at least on one of my cls
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[22:05:57] <apacible> ah, this one
[22:06:18] <apacible> Currently being looked at - http://crbug.com/721245
[22:09:05] <thakis> apacible: and https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_rel_ng/builds/452057 is after your test expectations update but has non-utf8-header-name.php failing still
[22:09:12] <thakis> with “missing” for the png result
[22:09:26] <thakis> maybe that’s yet another test expectation result?
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[22:11:05] <amosbird> hello
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[22:11:42] <amosbird> I just saw hterm has a osc52.el for emacs
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[22:12:02] <amosbird> I wonder why this function doesn't work https://paste.wentropy.com/LMFn
[22:13:51] <maruel> sheriffs: is there a bug for the browser_tests redness on https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.win/builders/win_chromium_x64_rel_ng?numbuilds=100 ?
[22:13:51] <trungl-bot> yhirano, apacible, sebsg, grt, anthonyvd: ^^^
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[22:14:45] <maruel> e.g. https://luci-logdog.appspot.com/v/?s=chromium%2Fbb%2Ftryserver.chromium.win%2Fwin_chromium_x64_rel_ng%2F424342%2F%2B%2Frecipes%2Fsteps%2Fbrowser_tests__with_patch_%2F0%2Flogs%2FCloudPolicyTest.FetchPolicy%2F0
[22:14:53] <maruel> it's not just RegistryTest.OpenSubKey
[22:15:06] <maruel> (unless they are related)
[22:15:20] <apacible> thakis the test result says "failed unexpectedly", which I took to mean a general "Failure". I'm not seeing another option to list besides Crash/Skip for the TestExpectations ..
[22:17:03] <thakis> apacible: https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_rel_ng/builds/452154 <- AdsPageLoadMetricsObserverBrowserTest.DocOverwritesNavigation appears broken too
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[22:17:43] <thakis> Histogram "PageLoad.Clients.Ads.Google.FrameCounts.AnyParentFrame.AdFrames" does not exist.
[22:18:23] <thakis> oh that was just reenabled in https://codereview.chromium.org/2861433005
[22:18:36] <thakis> i’ll revert that
[22:19:11] <apacible> thakis - thanks, maruel - taking a look
[22:19:19] <thakis> oh hm looks like it was disabled in https://codereview.chromium.org/2876693005
[22:19:58] <maruel> apacible: I didn't investigate, just anecdotally saw a no-op CQ job affected by it
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[22:27:24] <jamescook> apacible: thakis_ I think that AdsPageLoadMetrics browser_test is still failing despite (or because of?) the CL that disables the feature. https://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.chromiumos/builders/Linux%20ChromiumOS%20Tests%20%28dbg%29%281%29/builds/25898 contains that CL
[22:27:38] <jamescook> https://codereview.chromium.org/2876693005/
[22:30:29] <apacible> maruel - thanks for the heads up. I haven't seen other failures (yet) and it's not triggered on the dash as flaking a few times, but will keep an eye out. Thre's some usage of registry in c/b/policy/cloud, but not sure directly that's affected.
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[22:52:26] <scottmg> thakis: do you know if .gclient's target_os is checkable during runhooks?
[22:52:39] <thakis> scottmg: yes! no!
[22:52:47] <thakis> scottmg: android and ios add something to .gclient
[22:53:05] <scottmg> ya, i saw they do something to maybe pull different repos
[22:53:09] <thakis> scottmg: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/android_build_instructions.md#Converting-an-existing-Linux-checkout
[22:53:24] <thakis> scottmg: it’s the same repo, you just add target_os to the bottom of your .gclient
[22:53:30] <thakis> and then gclient pulls more stuff
[22:53:50] <scottmg> k.
[22:54:09] <scottmg> i thought that just pulled more of the things in deps_os though, not configuring hooks
[22:54:18] <thakis> wurrrrr
[22:54:29] <thakis> maybe? but a deps could pull in more hooks maybe i think?
[22:54:44] <thakis> cf buildtools/DEPS
[22:54:46] <scottmg> like, clang_format_win, _mac, _linux always run
[22:55:56] <scottmg> urm, i dunno. i'll try to make it not download unless the person doing the download is likely to care about it in any case
[22:56:02] <thakis> build/android/update_deps/update_third_party_deps.py apparently looks for the android sdk and quits if it’s not there
[22:57:16] <thakis> and that’s pulled in via a deps
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[22:57:28] <scottmg> ah, i guess then a DEPS could make only an empty dir as a signal that you want "the rest" to be downloaded
[22:57:39] <scottmg> and the DEPS could be based on target_os
[22:57:41] <thakis> yeah, seems like that’s currently The Way
[22:57:50] <scottmg> seems a bit convoluted to make an empty repo for that reason, but anyway
[22:57:56] <thakis> yeah, seems a bit indirect
[22:58:15] <thakis> but compared to other things we do it’s reasonably straightforward? :-D
[22:58:23] <scottmg> tjat
[22:58:27] <scottmg> that's the spirit
[22:58:48] <thakis> but adding a hooks_os wouldn’t be horrible iether
[22:59:07] <thakis> i think whoever implemented hooks didn’t expect us to have a hundred of them
[22:59:13] <thakis> we used to have like 5 for a long time
[22:59:23] <scottmg> yeah, i recall the good old days
[22:59:36] <maruel> thakis: definitely didn't expect hundreds
[22:59:40] <scottmg> i'd really like hooks to overprint link ninja and the repo sync because it's a whole lotta spam now
[22:59:49] <scottmg> s/link/like
[22:59:53] <scottmg> linking on the brain apparently
[23:00:01] <thakis> hooks could just print a lot less too
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[23:00:09] <thakis> it’s 99.6789% uninteresting output
[23:01:29] <thakis> http://imgur.com/a/vXL3Z <- this change has been in the cq for 2 days 5 h now
[23:01:29] <apacible> thakis, do you know who may be the best POC for what to put for the failure option on non-utf8-header-name.php ? The other option is to just skip the test entirely.
[23:01:31] <thakis> (and still is there)
[23:01:52] <scottmg> i used to be in the cq
[23:01:56] <thakis> apacible: don’t know; i’d ask on blink-dev or in #blink or dpranke
[23:01:58] <scottmg> still in the cq, but i used to be too
[23:01:59] <thakis> or ojan
[23:02:10] <apacible> thanks
[23:02:51] <maruel> thakis: definitely the issue is that this issue is not on gerrit
[23:03:27] <maruel> :)
[23:03:42] <thakis> maruel: there are 2 people on chromium who have opted in to gerrit so far. i kind of dread getting reviews from them since gerrit feels much slower-loading to me than rietveld
[23:03:51] <thakis> (i’ve filed a bug)
[23:06:02] <maruel> thakis: I agree it occasionally hickups, thanks for reporting
[23:06:28] <maruel> in particular it doesn't seem to "preload the next file diff" when going through files one at a time
[23:06:32] <thakis> i mean more the median load time, not 99%ile times
[23:06:47] <thakis> time from “click link in gmail” to “patch loaded in new tab"
[23:06:52] <thakis> the chrome loads fairly quick
[23:07:14] <thakis> but until the xhr with the actual data arrives takes longer than rietveld loading a patch, for not-huge patches
[23:07:14] <maruel> thakis: you realize it's the first nice comment I heard about Rietveld for like, 5 years?
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[23:11:37] <thakis> maruel: you might want to re-read the early gerrit discussion threads, they were full of people who preferred rietveld a lot to (pre-new-ui) gerrit
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[23:20:30] <maruel> thakis_: my point is that there wasn't much love towards Rietveld before people were forced to look at an alternative, everything I was hearing was negative :/
[23:22:21] <ellyjones> engineers can be like that :\
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[23:22:30] <ellyjones> & we have a bit of a cultural issue with focusing on negativity team-wide
[23:24:29] <Garbee> I think our negativity is generally just venting frustration with things and not thinking about the words we use.
[23:29:16] <thakis> maruel: maybe it’s “i like rietveld more than gerrit”, not “i like rietveld” :-P
[23:29:34] <thakis> but the last few years it’s been pretty good imho
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[23:34:45] <thakis> i think it’s the usual ‘reality vs expectations ‘ thing and confirmation bias
[23:34:55] <thakis> we all expect that things work
[23:35:00] <ellyjones> that is true
[23:35:12] <thakis> (even though on average i’d say things are slightly worse than “works” :-) )
[23:35:16] <ellyjones> something I really appreciate about our infrastructure is that it pretty much works
[23:35:22] <ellyjones> which is not true for many projects I've been on :P
[23:35:22] <thakis> so if something’s really good, people do notice that
[23:35:28] <thakis> and if something’s broken, people do notice that too
[23:35:37] <thakis> but if something works, that’s meeting expectations
[23:35:45] <thakis> even though it’s slightly-exceeds-reality actually
[23:36:10] <jamescook> Chrome infra is awesome. I work mostly in Chrome code, but I'm in the Chrome OS org, and when I have to use Chrome OS infrastructure I really miss Chrome infra. :-)
[23:36:51] <thakis> and you’d probably think chrome os infra was great if you had to work on a randomly-chosen project on this planet for a bit :-)
[23:38:23] <thakis> on that note, 2day5h patch just failed cq again, will live to see 2day7h
[23:38:43] <thakis> apacible: https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_rel_ng/builds/452242 <- another non-utf8-header-name.php failure
[23:38:55] <apacible> I'm skipping the test -- https://codereview.chromium.org/2879693002/
[23:39:06] <apacible> waiting for it to pass the layout test then landing manually
[23:39:23] <thakis> apacible: https://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_rel_ng/builds/452250 <- and another
[23:40:31] <apacible> hmm, thought that one had recovered. looking again
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[23:48:04] <jamescook> Oh, I worked on a different randomly-chosen OS project and I really missed Chrome OS infra.
[23:48:16] <jamescook> But Chrome infra is best infra!
[23:52:08] <apacible> thakis - builds/452250's failure ran a test that was in the revert you landed - https://codereview.chromium.org/2876823003/
[23:52:21] <apacible> err, the test shouldn't exist on head anymore*
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