[00:02:43] <lzheng_> brettw: can I try my r54378 again?
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[00:07:19] <phajdan-jr> tree is open... :)
[00:08:38] <brettw> lzheng_, I don't even remember that one, so sure!
[00:08:43] <brettw> (my brain is full)
[00:14:20] <lzheng_> brettw: np. I believe the failure is not related to my change. I will revert my back and if still fails, I will disable the failed test then.
[00:15:44] <kerz> tonyg-cr, could you take a look at the latest official builder webkit test failures on linux?
[00:15:55] <kerz> they might be real, as they had finally settled down a bit
[00:16:06] <xji> lzhang_: is it a crash?
[00:16:18] <xji> lzhang_: ^is^was
[00:17:47] <xji> check failed
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[00:18:24] <lzheng_> xji: me?
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[00:19:29] <incluye> What is Planet Chromium?
[00:19:49] <incluye> oh.
[00:21:04] <xji> lzheng_: sorry, typo. are you talking about the check fail in net_unittests in 54378? I did not see it still fails after the revert.
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[00:22:51] <xji> lzheng_: guess I misunderstood you.  did it fail locally and in trybot?
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[00:36:40] <phajdan-jr> browser crash in a page cycler...
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[00:37:51] <atwilson> I'm trying to widen a signature in known_crashes.txt for the reliability bots to deal with redness on the webkit.org reliability canary.
[00:37:59] <atwilson> Is there a good way to test my change?
[00:38:55] <phajdan-jr> not sure, probably just try it. May be worth to ask huanr.
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[00:46:37] <trigrou> Hi
[00:47:00] <trigrou> do you know if there was some regression in textuing stuff in webgl with chromium ?
[00:47:21] <trigrou> I have my scene working fine with ff4 but not with chromiums anymore
[00:47:46] <lzheng_> xji: it is okay local and trybot. I was even okay the second time it ran on the same bot.
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[00:48:11] <lzheng_> xji: I resubmitted it and everything looks so far good.
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[00:48:24] <xji> lzheng_: ^^^
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[00:48:44] <trigrou> I use this version 6.0.480.0 (54192)
[00:49:58] <trigrou> http://plopbyte.net/webgl-openscenegraph-demo here the webgl page
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[00:51:12] <trigrou> it's black instead of be multi textured but with a chromium version two month ago it worked, so any idea ?
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[00:51:55] <phajdan-jr> dromaeo_jslib_test = flakiness
[00:52:53] <evmar> trigrou: works for me in Google Chrome6.0.472.11 (Official Build 53709) dev
[00:52:59] <evmar> trigrou: you have to pass --enable-webgl on command line
[00:53:44] <evmar> trigrou: looks pretty neat!  does it do anything other than render?
[00:54:48] <trigrou> nop you can just browse the scene with the orbit camera, it's not a game yet
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[00:55:41] <trigrou> evmar: do you have link where I can get your version because it seems that mine is not working
[00:55:50] <trigrou> evmar: are you on gnu/linux ?
[00:56:00] <jcivelli> I cannot build on Windows. It first complain about that there are no rules to make IndexedDatabaseRequest.idl and then that a bunch of V8 headers are missing. I freshly synced. Anyone has any clue?
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[01:01:44] <bryner> is there a way to sync to a specific revision if i'm using git?
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[01:02:15] <eglaysher> bryner: checkout the commit of that revision?
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[01:02:45] <eglaysher> (I assume you are talking about the top-level chrome, and not WebKit, which has some sort of script thingy that I don't know much about)
[01:02:52] <bryner> yea, top-level chrome
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[01:03:55] <bryner> so say if i want to create a branch from a specific revision, i need to find the commit id for it and pass it to git checkout -b ?
[01:04:08] <phajdan-jr> bryner: git reset --hard <sha>
[01:04:17] <eglaysher> bryner: correct. git checkout <hashish> -b branch_name
[01:05:02] <bryner> phajdan-jr: if i do it that way, does that actually make my origin/trunk point to the commit i give it?
[01:05:39] <phajdan-jr> bryner: yes. however, you probably want to do it erg's way.
[01:06:05] <phajdan-jr> I just use that rather than git checkout -b. git follows perl philosophy rather than python's it seems.
[01:06:16] <bryner> ok
[01:06:35] <bryner> thanks
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[01:10:32] <phajdan-jr> bryner: just for correctness... I think reset --hard won't change origin/trunk, just the current branch
[01:10:54] <bryner> ok
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[01:16:44] <xji> tonyg-cr: are you on top of the search-transformed.html failure in Mac webkit_tests?
[01:16:51] <atwilson> levin: you around?
[01:17:02] <atwilson> dave_levin: how about this? You around?
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[01:22:49] <rubenbb> can someone who can commit to webkit look at fixing this bug before you do a chromium release that contains it? https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42949
[01:22:59] <tonyg-cr> xji: where is the failure?
[01:23:21] <rubenbb> my guess is that this is the commit where that bug snuck in, only commit that looks relevant - http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/63907/trunk
[01:24:03] <xji> tonyg-cr: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?show_events=true&failures_only=true  in Webkit Mac 10.5 and 10.5 (dgb) 2
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[01:28:49] <tonyg-cr> xji: i haven't landed anything today, are you looking for another tony?
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[01:29:37] <tonyg-cr> or have we just not rolled in a long time?
[01:30:35] <xji> tonyg-cr: sorry,  had impression that  you are looking webkit_test failures from earlier messge. we had a roll-in this morning.
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[01:31:46] <tonyg-cr> xji: i'm working on some issues with the webkit tests on the official release bots, not on the main tree
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[01:47:26] <xji> satish, you there?
[01:48:23] <xji> brettw:
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[01:49:23] <brettw> xji: ?
[01:50:39] <dumi> jamesr: i think your patch broke the webkit canaries
[01:51:23] <xji> brettw: just got a late  notice that cable will be pulled out from my area start 5:00pm till Monday. so, I will only have wireless connection. guess I will be taking off.
[01:51:31] <brettw> xji: bye
[01:51:46] <brettw> good luck cabling (or whatever)
[01:53:25] <xji> btw, there is webkit_test failures in Webkit Mac 10.5 and 1.5 (dbg)(2), phajdan.jr (54388), satish (r54389), alyssad (r54391) are in blamelist, not sure whether it is related to satish
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[01:53:49] <dumi> atwilson: i think jamesr might have left. should we revert r64385?
[01:54:15] <dumi> atwilson: or try a clobber first maybe?
[01:54:51] <atwilson> dumi: one sec
[01:55:00] <phajdan-jr> xji: 54388 is probably not it. Only a compile-time change.
[01:56:00] <atwilson> dumi: yeah, we should. sigh.
[01:56:10] <dumi> atwilson: maybe clobber first? i can do it
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[01:56:20] <atwilson> OK, try clobber, if you don't mind. Thanks!
[02:00:42] <jamesr> i'm here
[02:00:44] <jamesr> did i bork it?
[02:00:47] <jamesr> i may have
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[02:01:06] <jamesr> >:(
[02:01:07] <tfarina> hum, what to do if a rebase from trunk is conflicting?
[02:01:28] <jamesr> atwilson: clobber probably won't help
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[02:01:47] <atwilson> jamesr: You know the problem?
[02:02:27] <jamesr> i'm looking
[02:02:32] <phajdan-jr> tfarina: svn or git?
[02:02:37] <jamesr> typo blah
[02:02:42] <evmar> i have discovered why building all on linux takes a while: we output 11gb of binaries.  :(
[02:02:51] <tfarina> phajdan-jr: git
[02:02:56] <atwilson> jarmesr: revert, or you fixing?
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[02:02:57] <jamesr> atwilson: fixing
[02:03:07] <phajdan-jr> tfarina: resolve the conflicts, git add the conflicted files, and git rebase --continue
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[02:03:25] <phajdan-jr> evmar: do you have idea how we can improve? GTTF can do the work.
[02:03:32] <evmar> phajdan-jr: probably with components
[02:03:34] <evmar> phajdan-jr: i will try on linux
[02:04:03] <tfarina> phajdan-jr: if the conflicts are not easy to fix, is there other way?
[02:04:25] <evmar> tfarina: sometimes you conflict with your own stuff on trunk
[02:04:39] <evmar> you can do this:  git merge trunk;  git reset --soft trunk; git commit
[02:04:55] <evmar> that does a merge followed by throwing away your branch's history and making it all one commit on top of trunk
[02:05:12] <tfarina> evmar: yup, I guess that is what is happening :(
[02:05:18] <jamesr> fridays
[02:05:47] <tfarina> evmar: I will try that now, thanks!
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[02:07:21] <dumi> atwilson: clobber didn't help. do you want to revert his CL or should i do it?
[02:07:24] <dumi> nvm
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[02:07:56] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Linux Builder (ChromiumOS)" from 54412: pathorn at chromium dot org, phajdan.jr at chromium dot org (:phajdan-jr), shess at chromium dot org, ziadh at chromium dot org)
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[02:08:53] <phajdan-jr> not me
[02:09:30] <pathorn> it's possible I removed some #include from profile.h
[02:09:51] <phajdan-jr> pathorn: if you're quick enough, it can save your change :)
[02:10:54] <pathorn> aha
[02:10:58] <pathorn> it is my fault
[02:11:08] <pathorn> removed a #if defined(CHROMEOS) block
[02:11:17] <pathorn> going to add it back
[02:11:37] <phajdan-jr> great! that was quick.
[02:11:40] <tfarina> evmar: the merge failed, then I fixed the conflicts, now I do git add ...?
[02:11:59] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by phajdan.jr at chromium dot org (:phajdan-jr): Tree is open (ChromiumOS -> pathorn looking)
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[02:12:38] <tfarina> evmar: git reset --soft trunk, doesn't work in the middle of a merge git says.
[02:12:51] <evmar> tfarina: you need to commit the result of the merge first
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[02:12:57] <evmar> you might want to back up your branch just in case
[02:13:08] <evmar> you can git reset --hard to undo the merge, then git checkout -b testbranch
[02:13:48] <tfarina> evmar: hum, it is in rietveld, so.., but I should have made the backup :(
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[02:14:35] <dumi> i'm looking at the webkit gardening calendar, and i don't see any names there. is there a way to see when i'm scheduled for gardening?
[02:14:42] <phajdan-jr> tfarina: git has it. It's only a matter of some reflog magic. ;-)
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[02:15:16] <jamesr> atwilson: that should fix
[02:15:20] <jamesr> atwilson: if not i'll revert both
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[02:15:27] <atwilson> kk, thx. Let's watch it.
[02:15:35] <tfarina> phajdan-jr: wow, git is so smart, I didn't know that would be possible to do that, nice, I should learn more tricks about git.
[02:15:36] <jamesr> sorry 'bout the mess. it's always the easy patches that get you
[02:15:40] <pathorn> header change should be committed
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[02:16:52] <dave_levin> atwilson: ping
[02:17:00] <atwilson> hi
[02:17:26] <atwilson> dave_levin: already reverted that patch so never mind.
[02:17:38] <dave_levin> atwilson: good enough
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[02:17:41] <dave_levin> thx
[02:18:21] <tfarina> evmar, phajdan-jr I guess it worked. Thank you both :)
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[02:19:04] <phajdan-jr> pathorn: thanks
[02:19:10] <tfarina> evmar: I really not used the git reset --soft in the end.
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[02:20:02] <jamesr> dammit
[02:20:03] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by phajdan.jr at chromium dot org (:phajdan-jr): Tree is open (ChromiumOS -> should cycle green)
[02:21:17] <jamesr> atwilson: still failed. not sure i understand why, it compiles on a clean build locally
[02:21:34] <atwilson> jamesr: sadness.
[02:21:38] <atwilson> OK, you reverting now then?
[02:21:40] <jamesr> atwilson: i'm happy to revert and try to understand offline if you wanna roll
[02:21:54] <dumi> the canaries seem to be doing fine after pathorn's patch
[02:22:03] <atwilson> I have some more fixes to push upstream anyway, so I don't mind if you need a few mins.
[02:22:19] <atwilson> jamesr: ^^^
[02:22:24] <jamesr> ok
[02:23:16] <jamesr> oh i see the issue
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[02:23:41] <jamesr> i have some USE() macros enabled locally that aren't enabled on the bots
[02:23:55] <jamesr> forgot about the GYP_DEFINES env variable. can fix
[02:24:29] <atwilson> jamesr: cool. Interestingly, the canaries are compiling just fine now, not sure why...
[02:24:46] <jamesr> atwilson: that is very odd
[02:24:52] <jamesr> ah
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[02:24:59] <jamesr> maybe the canaries compile with USE(ACCELERATED_COMPOSITING) on
[02:25:03] <jamesr> but the b.w.o bots don't
[02:25:17] <jamesr> that would actually be a bug, imho, we should have USE(ACCELERATED_COMPOSITING) on for all linux
[02:25:31] <jamesr> but since that's specified in build/feature_overrides.gypi it probably doesn't happen on the b.w.o builders
[02:25:32] <jamesr> gah
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[02:30:52] <jamesr> dglazkov: on windows+linux chrome and the canaries compile with USE(ACCELERATED_COMPOSITING) turned on
[02:30:58] <jamesr> dglazkov: but the build.webkit.org builders have it off
[02:31:04] <jamesr> dglazkov: i think because it's set in build/feature_overrides.gypi
[02:31:11] <jamesr> this makes compile break and me sadface :(
[02:31:23] <dglazkov> jamesr: fix it :)
[02:32:35] <tfarina> These webkit LINK failures are happening with some frequency now...http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/win/builds/42593/steps/compile/logs/stdio_html
[02:34:10] <jamesr> atwilson: landing second fix :(
[02:34:18] <atwilson> ok
[02:34:53] <jamesr> i think the mac canary will go red whenever it catches up
[02:35:02] <jamesr> and then be fixed by this patch
[02:35:20] <phajdan-jr> chromium arm will get fixed when it takes pathorn's fix
[02:36:15] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by phajdan.jr at chromium dot org (:phajdan-jr): Tree is open (ChromiumOS -> should cycle green, Chromium Arm -> should cycle green)
[02:40:47] <jamesr> atwilson: linux rolled green. watching the other two
[02:43:36] <jamesr> and mac never went red? that is odd
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[02:48:44] <thakis_> the mac is invincible to your feeble follies
[02:49:03] <jamesr> i remember now, i didn't turn this particular macro on for mac
[02:49:38] <jamesr> moral of story: i don't code so good later on fridays
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[02:54:27] <jamesr> atwilson: green all 'round. again, sorry about the churn
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[03:02:19] <trungl> 'evening, Chromium
[03:02:19] <trungl-bot> trungl: Good evening.
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[03:02:41] <trungl> good ol' reliable trungl-bot
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[03:04:56] <thakis_> evening trungl
[03:04:58] <thakis_> also, w00t
[03:05:06] <trungl> ?
[03:05:16] <trungl> Good evening, thakis!
[03:05:56] <thakis_> i'm happy because i found where my resolution-independence patch has the bug that breaks scrolling
[03:06:53] <trungl> we should just turn off scrolling
[03:06:59] <trungl> that would solve all problems
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[03:12:10] <thakis_> evmar: double-like on your screenshot buzz
[03:12:23] <thakis_> awesome that someone thinks the window controls are missing
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[03:15:48] <tfarina> thakis_: is there something we can do about this? chrome/test/automation/javascript_message_utils.h:121
[03:16:17] <thakis_> tfarina: looking
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[03:17:16] <thakis_> tfarina: don't think so
[03:19:04] <tfarina> thakis_: ok, I will ignore these warns in the bug, and leave them as is.
[03:19:11] <thakis_> sgtm
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[03:25:14] <tfarina> thakis_: what to do about the license in this file chrome/browser/importer/mork_reader.h?
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[03:26:00] <thakis_> bryner: why is mork_reader.h not in third_party?
[03:26:57] <thakis_> tfarina: that file probably belongs into third_party. we should ask bryner when he's around
[03:27:23] <tfarina> yup!
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[03:39:06] <trungl> does git-gs take any arguments?
[03:39:47] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "unit_tests" on "Mac10.6 Tests (dbg)(1)" from 54420: tfarina at chromium dot org)
[03:39:59] <trungl> I guess it's just a frontend to git-grep
[03:40:16] <trungl> an annoying one at that
[03:40:27] <tfarina> lookin
[03:40:27] <tfarina> looking*
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[03:41:00] <gavinp> wow, i landed my change just in time
[03:42:12] <tfarina> hum, I'm not seeing anything related.
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[03:46:14] <tfarina> trungl: the mac10.6 are idle, it will need a clobber to restart?
[03:46:48] <trungl> no idea, but I can't clobber right now
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[03:47:45] <trungl> I don't see anything obvious that needs clobbering anyway
[03:49:23] <tfarina> trungl: how it starts compiling again?
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[03:49:48] <trungl> what do you want to start compiling?
[03:50:07] <tfarina> trungl: this http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?builder=Mac10.6%20Tests%20(dbg)(1)
[03:50:13] <trungl> afaict, everything is either compiling or waiting on a compiler
[03:50:17] <trungl> that's a tester
[03:50:23] <trungl> it's waiting for a builder
[03:50:25] <trungl> I have to go
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[03:51:46] <tfarina> evmar: yt?
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[03:55:53] <incluye> Is it possible to redirect the current tab to somewhere else on a browser action click?
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[03:58:35] <tfarina> is anyone in mtv yet that can help me to fix the mac?
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[04:03:31] <tfarina> I'm still looking. The chromium mac builder is finishing, hope soon the mac test will catch that.
[04:04:37] <tfarina> restarted :)
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[04:16:50] <tfarina> it looks like flaky
[04:16:56] * gavinp waves
[04:17:15] <tfarina> gavinp: do you have any glue?
[04:17:42] <gavinp> alas, no
[04:18:05] <tfarina> gavinp: I'm waiting the interactive_ui_tests finish, but I don't know what to do next.
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[04:18:39] <tfarina> gavinp: my CL simply doesn't touch any of the failure tests.
[04:19:05] <gavinp> i don't know what to say; my experience today has been the same
[04:19:26] <gavinp> in this situation, i'd get a clean checkout, and run the same tests with your change applied and reverted
[04:19:34] <tfarina> gavinp: hum, it failed again, I will revert and see if it fixes.
[04:20:07] <gavinp> a few weeks ago i had a CL for prefetching that did the same thing.  turns out i'd tickled a bug in webkit that caused onload to be issued too early
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[04:20:44] <gavinp> it seemed completely unrelated, but testing with/without the patch showed my patch definitely caused it
[04:22:16] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by tfarina at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (revert is in -> tfarina)
[04:23:26] <tfarina> gavinp: your patch ?
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[04:24:05] <tfarina> gavinp: ah sorry you are talking about the prefetching?
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[04:26:21] <gavinp> yeah, i had a lot of earlier attempts at a prefetching patch before the current one
[04:27:01] <gavinp> it was confusing; had to patch webkit, then test that against chrome, find out there was a webkit bug etc...; and frankly, the failures seemed completely unrelated at first
[04:28:12] <tfarina> wow, hope that will be not the case.
[04:29:50] <gavinp> so while i have no specific advice for you, i can only say that seemingly unrelated events are sometimes connected
[04:30:37] <tfarina> ziadh`: reverted too? why?
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[04:31:26] <tfarina> gavinp: right :)
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[04:33:16] <trungl> jamesr!
[04:34:07] <tfarina> gavinp: what is prefetching? is there a design doc?
[04:34:57] <gavinp> tfarina: no, not particularly.  ebkit bug 3652 discusses it best, as does a design doc on mozilla's site
[04:35:12] <gavinp> there's two aspects to explicit prefetch.  an HTML element <link rel="prefetch" href="...">
[04:35:27] <gavinp> and an HTTP response header Link: rel="prefetch"; href="..."
[04:35:48] <gavinp> webkit supports the former, and not the latter
[04:36:16] <tfarina> gavinp: it is like a precende? this specifies which one should be the first?
[04:36:36] <gavinp> no, prefetching is for resources that are not required for the current document
[04:36:53] <gavinp> the intention is to seed the cache so that subsequent navigations will have faster page load
[04:36:57] <gavinp> from the cache hits
[04:37:21] <gavinp> a classic example is GWS.  Google web search will, if the first result has high "confidence", emit a prefetch element for it
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[04:37:41] <tfarina> gavinp: hum, right, that is not what I was thoughting.
[04:37:49] <jamesr> trungl: nope!
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[04:38:16] <trungl> that jamesr is such a tease
[04:38:19] <gavinp> so if you're using a web browser that supports prefetch, the time you spend moving your mouse to the result from wikipedia isn't wasted
[04:38:25] <gavinp> your browser was actually fetching the article
[04:38:38] <tfarina> gavinp: the element will load a resource like in background
[04:38:45] <gavinp> precisely
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[04:39:29] <tfarina> gavinp: hum, that move of the mouse will trigger the fetch of the link to this article?
[04:39:55] <gavinp> no, the mouse move was irrelevant, i was just putting it in the description for flower
[04:41:05] <tfarina> gavinp: ah, the wikipedia articles with prefetching link will be downloaded in background
[04:41:09] <gavinp> if a document contains an element <link rel="prefetch" href="...">, then, once the onload event fires, chrome will begin loading those resources at a new priority IDLE
[04:41:17] <gavinp> right
[04:41:36] <tfarina> gavinp: wow, nice feature!
[04:41:41] <gavinp> i'm not as sure
[04:41:46] <gavinp> there's a few problems
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[04:41:57] <tfarina> gavinp: that should save sometime
[04:42:05] <tfarina> gavinp: security?
[04:42:08] <gavinp> i'm not sure it will save time!  In an ideal situation, yes
[04:42:12] <gavinp> but i see some trouble
[04:42:29] <gavinp> 1. our cache has the property that if a cache record has a writer, then no readers are permitted.
[04:42:49] <gavinp> so, if you navigate to a prefetch resource before it's done retrieval, you can't read even the first byte until the entire resource is done downloading.
[04:43:11] <gavinp> So, imagine the wikipedia article is very long..., then if you click quickly, you'll actually get slower first paint.
[04:44:04] <gavinp> 2. the onload event isn't the end of getting a resource
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[04:44:24] <gavinp> so firing off fetches at that point might be too early.  will the prefetch retrieval compete with existing important retrievals?
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[04:44:27] <tfarina> gavinp: that click shouldn't be the common case most of the time.
[04:44:48] <gavinp> tfarina, i agree it isn't likely the common case, but i think it's worth measuring.
[04:45:45] <tfarina> gavinp: there is some research and measurements to be done yet with this feature, but seems a good promise.
[04:46:19] <gavinp> i agree.  i just feel like the feature has enough potetial to cause harm that it needs to prove itself to stay in
[04:46:30] <gavinp> my bet is that carefully done, it'll be a net benefit
[04:47:46] <tfarina> gavinp: yeah, that is true. it should show that it's good enough.
[04:48:24] <tfarina> gavinp: but it seems worth try it.
[04:49:20] <tfarina> gavinp: hey, now the failure in the unit_tests didn't happen :(
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[04:49:36] <gavinp> well, now you have something.
[04:51:07] <tfarina> gavinp: hum not sure exactly. It shows an orange color instead of the red. And the same test failed. Will wait more to make sure.
[04:52:13] <gavinp> how does that test run on your workstation?
[04:52:14] <tfarina> gavinp: nope! the revert didn't fixed either :(
[04:52:24] <gavinp> well, that's lousy.
[04:52:55] <tfarina> any mac guy here??
[04:53:01] <tfarina> trungl: ^^
[04:53:04] <tfarina> thakis: ^^
[04:53:39] <tfarina> gavinp: I didn't run it. because I didn't touch unit_tests.
[04:55:44] <gavinp> now that you've seen a failure, no harm in running it and maybe in a debugger.
[04:57:07] <tfarina> gavinp: if I had a fast machine that didn't take more than 3 hours, I would run it.
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[04:57:39] <gavinp> hum, yeah, you have my sympathies
[04:58:39] <tfarina> gavinp: see http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?builder=Mac10.6%20Tests%20(dbg)(1)
[04:58:54] <tfarina> it all about focus
[04:59:06] <tfarina> nothing related to my CL.
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[05:00:43] <tfarina> gavinp: I think sometimes we mark them DISABLE to fix the tree.
[05:01:08] <terinjokes> thakis: how are you building on the mac?
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[05:02:44] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by tfarina at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Mac10.6 Tests (dbg)(1) - some tests are failing)
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[05:04:55] <tfarina> maruel_ooo: ping
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[05:37:58] <leiz> there's a hung interactive_tests on the mac bot
[05:38:01] * leiz reboots it
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[05:42:41] <trungl_> thanks leiz
[05:44:43] <leiz> webkit mac is failing too
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[05:46:40] * leiz prepares to revert r54389
[05:50:11] <leiz> either that or rebase the test?
[05:50:37] <trungl> i don't know
[05:50:50] <leiz> I'll just suppress
[05:51:56] <leiz> windows webkit bot has been dead for 28 hours, sigh
[05:52:21] <trungl> :(
[05:53:12] <leiz> the tree is always in a bad state at the end of friday :-\
[05:53:42] <leiz> the win bot needs a hard reboot
[05:53:54] <leiz> I'll send an email
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[06:07:20] <terinjokes> ok, i build chromium on mac... where does it go?
[06:10:31] <leiz> src/xcodebuild ?
[06:11:03] <terinjokes> ok, found it :P
[06:13:26] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by thestig at chromium dot org (:leiz): Tree is closed (Mac Webkit turning green. Win Webkit needs reboot. Reliability -> thestig investigating. Interactive Test Dbg -> bug 50663.)
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[06:30:27] <wolter> what decides whether content is cached or not on chromium?
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[06:43:43] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by thestig at chromium dot org (:leiz): Tree is open (Win Webkit needs reboot. Interactive Test Dbg -> bug 50663.)
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[06:44:49] <trungl> anyone for a rubberstamp-ish review?
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[06:47:31] <leiz> trungl: sure
[06:47:40] <trungl> leiz: http://codereview.chromium.org/3041038/show
[06:48:10] <trungl> unfortunately, the diff display is awful
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[06:49:15] <trungl> basically all the tests involving DictionaryValues are copied and w{string,char_t*}s turned to {string,char*}s
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[06:51:38] <trungl> leiz: thanks
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[07:04:54] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by thestig at chromium dot org (:leiz): Tree is open (Interactive Test Dbg -> bug 50663.)
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[07:19:49] <trungl> leiz: if you're still around/awake/willing, here's another one: http://codereview.chromium.org/3013048/show
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[07:25:11] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Chromium Builder" from 54432: atwilson at chromium dot org)
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[07:32:35] <atwilson> sigh
[07:34:39] <atwilson> I'll see if a clobber fixes it - it worked on the try bots oddly enough.
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[07:40:15] <atwilson> so this is embarrassing - how do I trigger a clobber on the build bots again?
[07:40:30] <leiz> atwilson: well, chromium xp always clobbers, so we can wait and see what happens there
[07:40:48] <leiz> atwilson: internal bot page, select the bot, force a build with the clobber checkbox checked
[07:40:54] <atwilson> thx
[07:40:58] <atwilson> mac built fine, btw.
[07:42:46] <atwilson> leiz: Can you pm/im me with the internal bot page URL? I'm working on my laptop and don't have any of my typical bookmarks (need to turn on sync, apparently :)
[07:43:19] <leiz> dunno if you can access it from home
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[07:44:03] <leiz> oh, apparently you can - it's buildbot.jail.google.com
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[07:49:28] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by atwilson at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (atwilson clobbered, hoping to cycle green)
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[08:11:28] <leiz> atwilson: should go green
[08:11:53] * trungl wonders how buildbot gets its ETAs.
[08:12:10] <leiz> it's based on previous runs I think
[08:12:16] <trungl> ah
[08:12:22] <trungl> and I guess clobbers confuse it
[08:12:25] <trungl> that makes sense
[08:12:43] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by atwilson at chromium dot org: Tree is open (cycling green)
[08:17:46] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by thestig at chromium dot org (:leiz): Tree is open (cycling green, Interactive Test Dbg -> bug 50663.)
[08:20:53] <atwilson> fishd: Not sure if you're around, but I'm going to revert 64408 upstream as it's causing several tests on the linux canary to go red.
[08:21:27] <atwilson> (webkit linux canary)
[08:22:24] <terinjokes> what's something that derives ResourceView?
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[08:51:00] <terinjokes> nvm, i figured it out... like 30 minutes ago
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[09:14:21] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Linux Builder (ChromiumOS dbg)" from 54437: atwilson at chromium dot org, thestig at chromium dot org (:leiz), viettrungluu at chromium dot org (:trungl))
[09:15:43] <trungl> argh
[09:15:47] <trungl> that's probably my "fault"
[09:16:36] <trungl> actually
[09:16:40] <trungl> it's probably leiz
[09:16:47] <trungl> ping?
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[09:18:20] <leiz> probably me :)
[09:18:48] <leiz> bah, I thought try bots picked tested that
[09:19:27] <trungl> alas
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[09:20:49] <leiz> ya, it'll take a few minutes and possibly a second try
[09:21:40] <trungl> sure
[09:21:51] <leiz> you're not waiting to commit are ya?
[09:21:53] <trungl> probably not too many people are waiting
[09:21:54] <trungl> no
[09:22:40] <trungl> though if you're sufficiently bored, I have http://codereview.chromium.org/3060034 waiting for another boring review :P (no rush though)
[09:23:05] <trungl> (really, my plan was to inflict these on evmar ... though there'll be plenty more to come)
[09:25:29] <leiz> I did my share in net/
[09:26:10] <terinjokes> trungl: it looks like you have figured out how to use the keyboard! congrats, you've passed my (entirely unofficial) review
[09:27:36] <trungl> leiz: I'm converting preferences over too ... and that'll result in some hilariously large number of things to be changed
[09:28:49] <terinjokes> trungl: do you know if it's possible to log something happening in the chrome of chromium that's Javascript?
[09:29:06] <trungl> terinjokes: sorry, what do you mean?
[09:29:34] <leiz> trungl: http://codereview.chromium.org/3084006
[09:30:22] <terinjokes> I'm trying to debug stuff with the Resource in the Inspector, and it would be nice to see what data the particular resource I'm looking at has
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[09:34:11] <trungl> leiz: go for it
[09:35:21] <trungl> terinjokes: do you want to log JS/DOM stuff from native code or vice versa?
[09:35:27] <trungl> (or neither?)
[09:39:36] <terinjokes> i want to dump the resource data (effectivelly, chromium/src/third_party/WebKit/WebCore/inspector/front-end/Resource.js)
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[09:46:36] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by thestig at chromium dot org (:leiz): Tree is open (cycling green, Interactive Test Dbg -> bug 50663.)
[09:49:08] <leiz> huh, chromium arm is a cros builder
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[10:37:55] <mahfouz> I'm getting crashes with 6.0.481
[10:38:00] <mahfouz> quite often actually
[10:38:25] <mahfouz> something like this
[10:38:30] <mahfouz> [3523:3603:2297613649:ERROR:chrome/browser/sync/notifier/registration_manager.cc
[10:38:30] <mahfouz> (127)] Registration failed with code: 12
[10:38:40] <mahfouz> in ubuntu btw
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[14:09:31] <Megz> Why doesn't Chrome save your session when you exit?
[14:09:38] <Megz> That's really commonplace behaviour of Firefox for years now
[14:09:48] <Megz> chrome seems to be missing a lot of really really basic stuff
[14:10:29] <Megz> but I don't see how something like that could be overlooked
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[14:15:46] <cbentzel> Megz: Wrong iRC channel, but go to Options, and On Startup will have a button to reopen pages that were open last
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[14:16:42] <Megz> That is not what I want.
[14:17:18] <Megz> If I use that setting, then the poorly designed thing will cause my  www.google.com to never open on new pages when I am starting fresh
[14:17:30] <Megz> unlike firefox, which can handle both
[14:18:27] <Megz> If I use the setting you mentioned, and I have browsers open, and then I open another browser, it wont go to my homepage of choosing
[14:18:31] <gavinp> this is a channel for developers of chrome
[14:18:45] <gavinp> for support, you might try #chromium-support
[14:18:51] <Megz> I prefer here
[14:19:04] <lindi-> Megz: you have an attitude problem clearly :)
[14:19:35] <Megz> I have no interest in getting "user support"
[14:19:42] <gavinp> you might also go to a mailing list for users to discuss the browser, at you might ahttp://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-discusslso enjoy
[14:19:44] <Megz> My interest is in mentioning problems to developers
[14:19:54] <Megz> hence why I am here
[14:19:56] <lindi-> Megz: bug report is the proper channel for that
[14:20:04] <gavinp> you'll find that mailing list, or a bug report, the right way to communicate your concerns
[14:20:06] <lindi-> Megz: asking about it here anonymously won' get anywhere
[14:20:24] <Megz> I'm not going to file bug reports until it was discussed at least
[14:20:28] <gavinp> in here, because there's no history and no thread created, you're not going to get the results you want
[14:21:04] <gavinp> and that link was support to be http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-discuss
[14:21:08] <gavinp> my apologies for the bad paste earlier
[14:21:32] <gavinp> i reccomend for the type of thing you're trying to talk about that you raise it in chromium-discuss, and mention that you'd like to file a bug
[14:22:56] <Megz> The reason I come here is because #chromium-support has 40 people and this channel has 250 people
[14:23:08] <Megz> Every single time the same thing happens:
[14:23:24] <Megz> 1) go to #chromium-support
[14:23:27] <Megz> 2) ask for help
[14:23:31] <Megz> 3) nobody knows
[14:23:35] <Megz> 4) come to #chromium
[14:23:42] <Megz> 5) ask for help
[14:23:57] <Megz> 6) get an answer immediately
[14:24:07] <Megz> 7) get bitched out and told to go to #chromium-support
[14:24:19] <Megz> Therefore, as i've been doing for years, I'll continue to come here.
[14:24:25] <Megz> and weather the storm of getting bitched out.
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[14:27:06] <lindi-> Megz: 10 days ago you said "< Nola> back to Firefox for the next couple years"
[14:27:19] <lindi-> Megz: so I don't see why you are interested in chromium features at all now.
[14:27:48] <gavinp> firefox is an excellent browser, and you're saying it has the features you want now...
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[14:31:08] <Megz> you spend way more effort trying to tell people to go to #chromium-support , reading through backlogs, grepping for alternate user id's, etc  than you would to answer a question now and then
[14:32:48] <Megz> chill out
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[15:20:01] <cbentzel> It looks like the two XP ui_tests which failed with r54448 have been flaky in the past (and don't have any obvious dependence on the CL itself). I'll mark as flaky and investigate later.
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[17:17:39] <cbentzel> OK, I'm going to revert r54448 due to a few ui_test failures. I think this is flake, but I'll revert and try again on Monday
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[18:06:38] <terbeaux> hello everybody
[18:08:01] <terbeaux> i would like to write an extension that looks for swf content in a page and if it exists then report the url to a central server. this extension will only be run by my co-workers. we test out websites with swfs in them to ensure that our product works well.
[18:08:20] <terbeaux> it looks like this may be impossible with the chromium restrictions on extensions
[18:09:04] <terbeaux> i looked at content scripts but they restrict access to cross-site XMLHttpRequests
[18:09:29] <terbeaux> aside from writing native code i'm not sure how to get around this issue.
[18:10:27] <rubenbb> the problem is looking for swf or reporting it?
[18:10:39] <trungl> terbeaux: can't your content script just communicate with the background page which in turn does the xhr?
[18:11:13] * trungl doesn't actually know anything about extensions or cross-site restrictions, however
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[18:11:48] <trungl> the reason that content scripts have the same-site restriction is that they execute in the context of the web page
[18:12:39] * trungl doesn't know anything about js either, fwiw
[18:13:53] <trungl> anyway, the extensions mailing list is probably a better place to ask questions like this
[18:14:08] <trungl> it (presumably) has people who actually know what they're talking about
[18:14:11] <terbeaux> rubenb, reporting it. i want to do a get to a different site.
[18:14:26] * trungl isn't on this mailing list of course
[18:14:29] <terbeaux> trungl, that looks like exactly what i want to do.
[18:14:37] <terbeaux> hehe
[18:14:54] <terbeaux> right on. i'll go there.
[18:15:08] <trungl> good luck
[18:15:10] <terbeaux> but i think this is what i need. thank you trungl.
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[18:15:22] <trungl> no problem
[18:16:29] * trungl can't believe he answered a question about extensions and cross-site xhr
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[18:18:46] <trungl_afk> damn, now the other trungl_ will become trungl, even though he's even more afk
[18:18:59] <trungl_afk> better stop that
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[18:36:39] <evil-genius> Hello
[18:40:30] <evil-genius> Does chromium follow the same methodology as Google Chrome when it comes to proxy settings, such as using Windows and IE proxy settings instead of it's like Firefox so fortunately does?
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[18:47:59] <brettw> evil-genius, the code is the same between Google Chrome and Chromium except Google Chrome has extra branding and a few extra features like H.264 decoding
[18:49:41] <evil-genius> :[ --- I would have love to use either Google Chrome or Chromium more often --- Maybe i can use proxify to help me out on this
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[18:58:09] <sjefen6> where does google chome (dev) sync bookmarks too?
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[18:58:49] <brettw> sjefen6, you mean where are the servers?
[18:59:23] <sjefen6> no, does it have som web ui? I can see they are not stored in google bookmarks :P
[18:59:48] <rohitrao> check in docs.google.com
[19:00:07] <brettw> rohitrao, I was just looking there but I couldn't find them, maybe the're hidden?
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[19:00:57] <sjefen6> rohitrao: ooo, smart. but should not google.com/bookmarks interact with that?
[19:02:04] <rohitrao> there are bugs filed for that
[19:02:16] <brettw> sjefen6, google chrome bookmarks and toolbar bookmarks are currently different for various implementation reasons
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[19:06:59] <sjefen6> the google docs ui should support favicons btw. I am not using names on most of my favorites (text requires more space), and it becomes confusing :P
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[19:21:35] <yashi> hi
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[19:22:14] <yashi> im trying to find information about chromes' "home calling" habits
[19:22:29] <yashi> is chromium exactly the same as chrome? without the branding?
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[19:24:00] <brettw> I'm going to close the tree to land a nasty patch, about had it with try bots update failing
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[19:25:12] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by brettw at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Brett landing huge turd)
[19:26:12] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by brettw at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Brett landing huge turd)
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[19:30:17] <trungl> damn that brett and his turds
[19:30:22] * trungl doesn't actually care
[19:30:28] * trungl might even like huge turds
[19:30:36] <brettw> it's all the fiber they feed us at lunch here. Too many veggies
[19:31:17] <trungl> we're clearly going to the wrong places for lunch
[19:31:29] <trungl> I hear KFC makes some fine sandwiches
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[19:31:48] <trungl> maybe that should be "sandwiches" in quotes
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[19:41:20] <brettw> I have a fix for the current compile error, but I'm going to wait a few minutes to see if there are more
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[19:43:41] <trungl> "the tree is brettw's compiler" :P
[19:43:56] <brettw> this stupid cleanup touched >300 files
[19:44:04] <brettw> my head is a sploding
[19:44:17] <brettw> it builds locally!
[19:44:46] <trungl> you just need a pile of local bots
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[19:46:19] <casius> hi
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[19:47:19] <brettw> let me know if the tree closure is causing you problems
[19:47:31] <casius> can i use xpdf as a plugin?
[19:47:34] <brettw> I don't think it will be a problem if you need to check something in
[19:47:46] <trungl> I don't have anything waiting
[19:47:51] <nsylvain> i might need to check in stuff too. i'll let you know
[19:47:53] <casius> because when i want to open a pdf in chromium i only get the download dialogue
[19:48:21] <eggy> i get mising plugin when I try to view pdfs in chrome :x
[19:48:26] <brettw> nsylvain, no problem
[19:49:30] <casius> looks like chromium does not know in using xpdf
[19:49:51] <casius> *i'm
[19:51:07] <casius> eggy: what does ur about:plugins page say?
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[19:56:13] <yashi> is chromium exactly the same as chrome? without the branding? does it send any information which are not needed to be send?
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[19:56:40] <eggy> should mention this is on Linux >.>
[19:56:47] <eggy> and I'll check that in a moment
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[20:04:52] <terinjokes> tad bit offtopic, but does anyone know what color the "highlight" color when you're doing a find on a webpage is?
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[20:07:14] <eggy> ah, chrome pdf was disabled
[20:07:16] <eggy> that's the problem
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[20:12:31] <trungl_> damn that trungl
[20:12:35] <trungl_> he's afk
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[20:15:16] * trungl_ gives up on building on his notebook.
[20:15:28] <terinjokes> i build on my notebook
[20:15:36] <terinjokes> i started it before i left for work today
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[20:16:49] <trungl_> I do too, sometimes.
[20:17:07] <trungl_> It depends on what you're doing.
[20:17:28] * trungl_ wishes Apple made an i5 or i7 13" MacBook Pro
[20:17:36] * trungl_ will continue to whine about this until they do
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[20:25:28] <brettw> I think I'm getting pretty close
[20:26:00] <brettw> had some confusion in different clients where I had fixed some issues but forgot to check them in
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[20:33:14] <jochen__> salut
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[20:34:34] <jochen__> anybody got a few spare cycles for a small codereview: http://codereview.chromium.org/3030033 ?
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[20:34:56] <trungl_> jochen__: sure
[20:35:22] <jochen__> just flips a command line flag from disable to enable
[20:35:41] <brettw> I'm going to open the tree, looks like the builders for each platform have gone green
[20:35:49] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by brettw at chromium dot org: Tree is open
[20:38:31] <gavinp> jochen: i've done that recently, I think we could be more clever about handling enable/disable command line flags.
[20:38:56] <gavinp> i guess it's nothing to complain about, but it just felt like too much work, removing a flag, adding a flag, recollating, switching the sense of flag checking everywhere it happens...
[20:39:40] <jochen__> yes
[20:39:56] <jochen__> it would be nicer if you could say i need a switch for foo
[20:40:17] <jochen__> and what the default value should be
[20:40:22] <trungl_> right
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[20:51:16] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "unit_tests" on "Linux Tests x64" from 54461: jochen at chromium dot org (:jochen__))
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[20:51:28] <jochen__> what's that
[20:51:44] <jochen__> ah, gnah
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[20:55:20] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by jochen at chromium dot org (:jochen__): Tree is closed (fix landed, should cycle green)
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[21:01:27] <trungl_> anyone bored enough to review http://codereview.chromium.org/3057027/show ?
[21:01:40] <gavinp> trung, i'm _always_ bored enough to help you
[21:02:16] * trungl_ tries to figure out what that means
[21:02:26] <brettw> trung: say I have two files with sorted lines, and I want to remove all lines from the first that appear in the second. Is there a shell command to do this or do I have to do it myself?
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[21:03:28] <trungl_> brettw: I don't know of a good way to do this offhand
[21:03:52] <trungl_> brettw: but probably you could do it with a single line of sed/awk/perl (pick one)
[21:04:08] <brettw> trungl, I'd rather write a several-line python/perl program
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[21:04:43] <trungl_> I'd probably go for python these days
[21:05:09] <trungl_> you could probably do it in a single line of python too (but a longer one)
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[21:05:49] <brettw> trungl_: once I move stringprintf out of string_util.h, I'm going to make a list of all files using any function left in string_util and remove them from the list of files actually including it
[21:05:55] <brettw> then I know which files I can delete it from
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[21:06:18] <foo_> trungl: ping
[21:06:26] <trungl_> yes?
[21:06:35] <foo_> (<- thakis)
[21:06:52] <brettw> how many names do you have?!?!?!
[21:06:55] <foo_> trungl: i noticed your wstring patch changes the values from wstring to utf8 instead of utf16. why?
[21:07:19] <trungl_> are we sure that foo_ isn't some chinese guy pretending to be thakis?
[21:07:26] <foo_> not on one of my own machines atm
[21:07:43] <foo_> trungl_: no. but you're not sure of that in real life either
[21:07:49] <jochen__> the unit tests passed
[21:08:02] <nsylvain> jochen__: redness on mac
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[21:08:34] <trungl_> foo_ (if that is in fact your name): because the keys are nearly all internal/programmatic
[21:08:40] <jochen__> grml
[21:08:45] <trungl_> foo_: as opposed to user-facing
[21:08:50] <foo_> trungl_: i mean the values, not keys
[21:09:09] <foo_> this one http://codereview.chromium.org/3057027/show
[21:09:22] <foo_> e.g. http://codereview.chromium.org/3057027/diff/3001/4001
[21:09:36] <foo_> (not saying it's wrong, just want to know why)
[21:09:38] <mbelshe> hey jochen - I'm going to sound like an ass asking this.... but since I'm grumpy about being in the office on a saturday and stalled on a red tree, I will ask....   why did you checkin when the bbot had the test failure?
[21:09:41] <trungl_> foo_: well, because StringValue's standard methods take UTF8
[21:10:18] <trungl_> foo_: and StringValue stores things internally as UTF8 anyway
[21:10:18] <foo_> but isn't utf8 a std::string? i thought we use string16/utf16 for unicode text
[21:10:49] <foo_> but they're stored in utf16 in the grd, no?
[21:10:55] <foo_> so you don't save a conversion
[21:11:14] <foo_> just thought it looked weird
[21:11:25] <trungl_> foo_: true, I'm just moving the conversion around
[21:11:27] <foo_> will look through the stringvalue code ig guess
[21:11:35] <brettw> mbelshe, which test failure, I thought he was fixing his own test failure?
[21:11:36] <trungl_> foo_: possibly I should opt for using string16 consistently
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[21:11:48] <mbelshe> i know
[21:11:51] <mbelshe> i meant the one before that -
[21:11:53] <mbelshe> whcih caused it!
[21:11:58] <mbelshe> and now we're stalled again!
[21:12:01] <mbelshe> sorry -
[21:12:05] <mbelshe> it happens to everyone - i know
[21:12:11] <brettw> personally, I think the tree can be opened
[21:12:29] <mbelshe> but we have so many people on the team that we just have to reduce the easy breakages
[21:13:10] <mbelshe> i'm going to open
[21:13:31] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mbelshe at chromium dot org: Tree is open!
[21:14:02] <foo_> i'm afk again?have a nice saturday everyone :-)
[21:14:04] <nsylvain> i'm going to revert dtseng's change (from yesterday morning). Interactive Ui Tests have been red since then
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[21:14:10] <trungl_> foo_: I will change them to utf16
[21:14:11] <nsylvain> and it's all tests that he added
[21:14:27] <brettw> trungl, I think that makes sense
[21:14:33] <gavinp> I am not seeing clean builds on windows on trunk
[21:14:52] <mbelshe> gavin - mine built ok from about 30mins ago
[21:15:03] <gavinp> which r?
[21:15:16] <gavinp> i get nasty failures totally parenthetical to my changes on any recent revision.
[21:15:19] <jochen__> mbelshe: yeah, stupid me :(
[21:16:06] <mbelshe> ok - well, i'm about to land - that should close the tree again!
[21:16:07] <mbelshe> ha!
[21:17:33] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "unit_tests" on "Vista Tests (dbg)(1)" from 54460: brettw at chromium dot org)
[21:18:00] <mbelshe> under the wire!
[21:18:04] <brettw> I think that's flaky
[21:18:32] <satish_> atwilson: ping
[21:18:34] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by brettw at chromium dot org: Tree is open
[21:20:39] <brettw> ha ha, my latest cleanup patch has too many files for codereview to handle (290)
[21:21:30] <trungl_> really?
[21:21:36] <trungl_> man, rietveld--
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[21:22:06] <brettw> trungl_: sending you the (manual) review
[21:22:13] <brettw> sorry
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[21:22:24] <trungl_> brettw: ok
[21:22:35] <brettw> trungl_ except my mail is broken
[21:22:45] <brettw> maybe it sensed the big file I was going to send and just killed itself
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[21:22:54] <trungl_> d'oh
[21:23:08] <trungl_> it's a conspiracy between your mail and rietveld
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[21:30:14] <yashi> is chromium exactly the same as chrome?  does it send any information which are not needed to be send?
[21:31:50] <jochen__> chrome comes with pdf and flash plugins bundled, it has different branding
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[21:32:53] <jochen__> http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html explains our privacy policy
[21:34:00] <jochen__> so, the mac unit tests also passed
[21:34:04] <jochen__> sorry bout the mess
[21:35:32] <yashi> jochen: thx. the link makes chrome a no go..does chromium has the same policy o0
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[21:37:48] <yashi> i would stick to firefox...but the flash bug is a pain in the a....<.>
[21:38:03] <terinjokes> yashi: the flash bug?
[21:38:15] <gavinp> so, uh, i can't find any windows try successes by anyone today
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[21:39:42] <yashi> terinjokes: example: you start a youtube video. the flash app will be focused, because you clicked it...the problem: the flash application eats all keyboard shortcuts...they never reach firefox
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[21:40:19] <terinjokes> yashi: i'm pretty sure that's expected
[21:40:35] <gavinp> cbentzel at 8:08am.  ok, i'll use his base as an LKGR
[21:40:56] <yashi> terinjokes: as long as you use the mouse for browsing you wont feel it.... no its not expected! its a reported bug...since a few years
[21:41:13] <yashi> *for
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[21:41:29] <gavinp> yashi, do you have a buzilla #?
[21:41:34] <gavinp> (for the firefox bug you're talking about)
[21:42:16] <terinjokes> (it was my understanding that flash got the keys since it had focus, and then when you click something not flash, the shortcuts would go back to Firefox)
[21:43:25] <mbelshe> nsylvain: is there a trybots for the 472 branch?
[21:43:49] <nsylvain> no, but there is a continuous builder, which I'm trying to bring up right now because it's sick.
[21:43:50] <yashi> terinjokes: right. if you click somewhere you get the your keyboard commands back.
[21:45:22] <terinjokes> if you have the bug number, i'll like to see it (because I'm pretty sure that this is expected, how else will Flash applications be able to bind to keys?)
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[21:47:49] <gavinp> I have a question, and maybe it's a dumb one.  But LKGR is 54453
[21:47:50] <yashi> terinjokes:chrome doesnt has the problem. it is ok if flash wants to bind keys, but in firefox it binds all keys!
[21:48:11] <gavinp> but looking at the build logs, 54453 failed on windows & mac.  How did this get promoted to LKGR?
[21:48:57] <nsylvain> gavinp: we don't look at the "full" builder for lkgr.. they take hours to cycle
[21:49:10] <nsylvain> almost all the other bots were green for this revision
[21:49:29] <yashi> terinjokes: that should be it https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414
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[21:50:27] <nsylvain> gavinp : the error on the try bots seems to happen only for clobber build or something like that
[21:50:37] <nsylvain> is brettw on it? looks like his code
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[21:50:52] <gavinp> nsylvain: hrm, ok, thanks.  I just wish i understood why i'm getting windows compile failures (related to stirng representations) on all recent tries
[21:51:09] <gavinp> i think brettw is on it, but i'm trying to educate myself so i understand try failures & how to run try better in the future
[21:51:17] <gavinp> i'll bbl
[21:51:19] <gavinp> thanks
[21:51:59] <yashi> terinjokes: the "flash bug" seems to be almost 10years old \o/ xD
[21:52:26] <terinjokes> then it's a feature, not a bug ;)
[21:53:46] <atwilson> satish_: You looking for me?
[21:55:03] <yashi> terinjokes: bugzilla status is critical...its a critical feature ^.^
[21:55:14] <terinjokes> what's the number?
[21:55:24] <terinjokes> (and why is it a problem from #chromium?)
[21:55:31] <terinjokes> for*
[22:00:24] <yashi> terinjokes: its not a chromium problem :/ with chromium everything runs smooth... thats the reason i want to/have to switch...but i dislike chromes privacy policy...the question is does chromium use the same policy?
[22:02:04] <nsylvain> i dont think chromium has a privacy policy.  You can build it yourself, and call it yashi-browser, and create your own privacy policy.
[22:02:26] <satish_> atwilson: sorry I was away for a bit, yes was looking for you.
[22:02:43] <satish_> atwilson: I saw you were looking for me yesterday :) and filed https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43285. Can I know where to find the canary failures?
[22:03:29] <yashi> but the chromium source is hosted by google isnt it? so it might be the same as chrome (ofc i could modify it, if i had the knowledge) but most people cant.
[22:03:59] <trungl_> yashi: what part of the privacy policy don't you like?
[22:04:27] <yashi> trungl_ i stopped reading at the fourth point... :X
[22:04:50] <trungl_> yashi: so you just can't be bothered to turn stuff off?
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[22:05:36] <yashi> trungl_:?
[22:05:50] <nsylvain> the first 2 points says "click here to learn how to disable"
[22:06:01] <nsylvain> same for #3
[22:06:55] <yashi> o0
[22:07:18] <yashi> well ^.^
[22:07:26] <yashi> maybe i stopped reading before the end ^^
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[22:11:20] <yashi> but all these tracking features are integrated in chromium too?
[22:12:41] <atwilson> satish_: Best bet is to go here: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall.fyi/waterfall?builder=Webkit+(webkit.org)&builder=Webkit+Linux+(webkit.org)&builder=Webkit+Mac+(webkit.org)&builder=Webkit.org+Builder&builder=XP+Perf+(webkit.org)&builder=XP+Tests+(webkit.org)&builder=Mac10.5+Perf+(webkit.org)&builder=Linux+Perf+(webkit.org)&builder=Webkit+Linux+(valgrind+webkit.org)&builder=Webkit.org+Reliability+Builder&builder=WebKit+Reliability
[22:12:41] <atwilson> and look backwards in time.
[22:15:45] <atwilson> satish_: My advice is to apply your patch locally, then run webkit + chrome together through the linux + linux_layout bots, and you'll see the errors. My recollection is that there are platform-specific expectations files that you didn't move. Do "find LayoutTests -name input\*speech\*" and you'll see them.
[22:17:19] <trungl_> yashi: which one(s) do you consider to be tracking features?
[22:17:50] <satish_> atwilson: I'll try that, also looking at the builders you pointed out above now.
[22:18:04] <path[l]> I have a question about an extension that adds a contextmenu. Since the menu should be created when the extension is installed, where is the best place to do this? background page?
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[22:21:20] <yashi> trungl_: all the data send by the browser which is not needed for surfing...i always thought google invented chrome and made it opensource (chromium) o0 its wrong isnt it?
[22:21:35] <trungl_> yashi: depends on what you mean by "need"
[22:21:50] <mbelshe> nsylvain:  is there a link to the 472 branch builder?
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[22:21:58] <trungl_> yashi: you don't need to be able to you search, or have suggestions, but it sure makes life better
[22:22:11] <nsylvain> mbelshe: im
[22:22:31] <trungl_> yashi: you realize that probably everytime you enter a url into any web browser, you unnecessarily send information to dns servers
[22:22:48] <trungl_> yashi: you can evidently just turn off dns and live with typing in IP addresses directly
[22:22:52] <gavinp> it's very difficult to understand what "necessary information to send" means for a web browser
[22:23:00] <trungl_> it'll be a fun web browsing experience though
[22:23:17] <gavinp> are user-agent query headers necessary?
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[22:25:24] <yashi> trungl_:it would be a bit hard without dns.. but no one needs all my surfed sites just for datacollecting...but sure in the end its a question of trust..but your isp has regulations google can collect what they want..
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[22:26:43] <trungl_> yashi: I'm sure google executives will be happy to learn that google is unregulated and can collect what it wants
[22:27:07] <thakis_> i'm me again!
[22:27:14] * trungl_ preferred foo_
[22:27:18] <trungl_> he was smarter
[22:27:34] <thakis_> i know
[22:27:45] <thakis_> he wouldn't have problems finding medians
[22:27:47] <yashi> trungl_: im pretty sure they  know it already ;)...if its not allowed in the us...do it in china
[22:27:54] <infinisoft> Is the scollbar in an extension popup page supposed to occlude the body area?
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[22:28:17] <trungl_> yashi: you may want to look into the state of google-china relations before you make quips like that
[22:28:26] <thakis_> it's because he was me being in an apple store, and there's an aura of +10 intelligence on every apple store
[22:28:52] <trungl_> thakis_: so it was just fake intelligence then
[22:29:02] <thakis_> borrowed intelligence
[22:30:00] <yashi> trungl_:the only fact i know: google is still in china... and im sure they will never leave.
[22:30:32] <trungl_> yashi: you may be correct in saying that that's the only fact you know
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[22:31:32] <rubenbb> lol
[22:31:52] <trungl_> sorry, I couldn't pass up that one
[22:32:00] <thakis_> almost work atmosphere in here :-)
[22:32:31] <trungl_> thakis_: hostile work environment?
[22:32:53] <thakis_> honest work environment
[22:33:30] <rubenbb> crap, html 5 video stopped working for me this week, gotta track this down
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[22:34:05] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by nsylvain at google dot com: tree is closed - 1 minute
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[22:34:09] <infinisoft> I guess my problem is that if I get a vertical scrollbar in a popup, then it inevitably spawns a horizontal one because the body width isn't decreased
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[22:34:25] <yashi> trungl_: i cant claim to know more...only people working for google/china know everything.. if you are one of them cg :)
[22:35:04] <gavinp> yashi, the privacy policy lists how to opt out of most of what's collected, and how to opt out
[22:35:33] <trungl_> yashi: more seriously, you have to compare to what other browsers (or websites) send
[22:35:53] <trungl_> yashi: most of it is sent for functional requirements
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[22:36:38] <trungl_> yashi: e.g., if you go to bing.com and type in the search box, each keystroke will go to microsoft
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[22:37:07] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by nsylvain at google dot com: Tree is open
[22:38:56] <yashi> trungl_: i dont want to make chrome look bad.. surely it is a good browser but i dont like the policy...so i wont use chrome. but i guess i will give chromium a try, i thought first google invented chromium, but it seems they only rebranded it and added a few google functions. is that right?
[22:40:26] <trungl_> yashi: no, chromium is just the pure open-source (and unbranded) parts of chrome
[22:40:33] <trungl_> historically, chrome came first
[22:40:42] <nsylvain> trungl: Eh.. no?
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[22:40:52] <trungl_> well, simultaenously?
[22:41:02] <nsylvain> yeah ;)
[22:41:07] <nsylvain> well
[22:41:18] <trungl_> what I meant was that chrome was being developed internally before it was released
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[22:41:27] <nsylvain> right ok ;)
[22:42:23] <trungl_> biab
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[22:45:10] <cmasone> anyone know where the code that manages the zygote process is?
[22:45:25] <thakis_> cmasone: git gs ZygoteMain
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[22:46:04] <cmasone> thakis_: nice, thanks
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[22:47:55] <thakis_> yashi: i think you can configure chrome to not send anything to google in the prefs. by default, it doesn't send very much and only harmless things (stuff you type into the omnibox goes to the default search provider and things like that)
[22:48:11] <thakis_> yashi: chromium doesn't have some features of chrome, such as h.264 video support and pdf support
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[22:48:39] <thakis_> yashi: (and all the chrome code that sends data is open source these days, even rlz. and rlz isn't send by default iirc)
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[22:48:53] <thakis_> (and even rlz data is pretty much harmless; it's documented what it contains these days)
[22:49:22] <thakis_> yashi: so if you want to use chromium i recommend using chrome instead
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[22:56:30] <gavinp> yashi, read through the policy carefully, and i think you'll see almost no data is sent "home" if you configure it not to
[22:56:40] <gavinp> however, i bet you actually want safe browsing, and upgrades etc...
[22:56:47] <gavinp> so carefully consider what you turn off
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[22:57:57] <gavinp> ok, so i just had a try job fail "Out of Memory" the windows builder said.
[22:59:07] <nsylvain> gavinp: I fixed the other errors you were seeing earlier
[22:59:11] <nsylvain> but it's not in lkgr yet
[22:59:43] <gavinp> oh, neat.  thank you nicholas
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[22:59:57] <nsylvain> np.  I'll go have lunch now. brb in 20 minutes
[23:00:17] <gavinp> so, just to reassure myself by passing on windows, do you suggest i'll build from 54471 ?
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[23:07:11] <satish_> atwilson: ping
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[23:14:25] <path[l]> does anyone know how to debug a popup?
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[23:25:27] <atwilson> satish_: ping back
[23:26:19] <satish_> atwilson: I saw the webkit revert , looks like the tests just got deleted instead of moving back to the old location - http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/64388
[23:26:28] <satish_> the tests are no longer in the webkit trunk
[23:26:34] <satish_> atwilson: was that intentional?
[23:27:27] <atwilson> sigh, no, absolutely not.
[23:27:46] <atwilson> satish_: It must have been some bad interaction between git revert and git svn
[23:28:18] <satish_> atwilson: Ok, any suggestions to rectify? Should I just make my new patch include these files as new files?
[23:30:13] <atwilson> satish_: What I would do is make a patch without those files (so do everything else you need to do in a patch) then revert r64388.
[23:30:51] <atwilson> satish_: That way you keep the history.
[23:31:24] <satish_> atwilson: ok, but my new patch would be touching the same lines in the Skipped/test_expectations.txt files as in this patch. So it wouldn't be a simple revert?
[23:32:50] <atwilson> satish_: hmmm.
[23:33:13] <atwilson> satish_: How soon will your fix be ready? I can revert r64388, then you can do whatever you need to do with yours (including touching the same files).
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[23:34:01] <atwilson> Not a big deal as long as you make sure the canaries go green after your patch lands.
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[23:34:28] <satish_> atwilson: yes, I was planning to do git-try --webkit and verify that it goes green in try servers before submitting. That is going to take an hour or so?
[23:34:42] <satish_> atwilson: but perhaps ok since it is a saturday and low on activity
[23:34:58] <atwilson> satish_: Yeah, that's fine. A few hours of canary redness is not a big deal.
[23:35:08] <atwilson> satish_: Would you like me to revert now then?
[23:35:25] <satish_> atwilson: yes please
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[23:42:05] <thakis_> trungl: wtf comment?!
[23:43:02] <trungl_biab> thakis_: you're just trolling
[23:43:18] <thakis_> i didn't realize
[23:43:45] <trungl_biab> in a place where exactly four people will see it
[23:43:54] <trungl_biab> (including you)
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[23:45:04] <thakis_> yeah, that's one of the reasons i inferred i'm not trolling but being serious
[23:45:10] <satish_> atwilson: in progress?
[23:45:20] <atwilson> satish_: Yep, about to re-land
[23:45:22] <trungl_biab> thakis_: no, you're just obliging people to reply
[23:45:46] <atwilson> satish_: I can't quite figure out how to refixup the commit history, but we'll survive, I'm sure.
[23:45:47] <thakis_> trungl_biab: well, let's see what trungl says once he's no longer biab
[23:45:47] <trungl_biab> thakis_: you can go start a centithread somewhere about it, but at the end of the day there still won't be a consensus
[23:46:12] <thakis_> trungl_biab: the centithread happened several months ago and the resolution was string16 afair
[23:46:19] <trungl_biab> thakis_: the fact is that the 99.9% use case consists of ascii keys
[23:47:08] <thakis_> if the hostzoommap etc uses this, that's not really true
[23:47:29] <thakis_> maybe 99.9% of the call sites, but not 99.9% of the invocations
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[23:48:02] <thakis_> but i won't insist, i don't care all that much
[23:48:39] <trungl_biab> thakis_: I suspect the hostzoommap uses ascii keys
[23:48:46] <trungl_biab> if it's taking the spec() of a gurl
[23:49:16] <trungl_biab> thakis_: it's ui strings for which string16s are dictated
[23:51:49] <atwilson> satish_: OK, un-rollback landed.
[23:52:12] <satish_> atwilson: got it synced, thanks.. i'll get on it.
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[23:54:40] <satish_> atwilson: is it 'git try --webkit' to test my local webkit fixes in the try server?
[23:55:09] <atwilson> satish_: Yes, but it's always a crapshoot whether it works. The tools maintainers break that option *all the time*.
[23:55:32] <atwilson> I think you might be better off using (see if I can remember) the "-s third_party/WebKit" flag.
[23:55:38] <abarth> :(
[23:56:34] <satish_> abarth: is that not true?
[23:56:36] <atwilson> I finally got tired of debugging it every time I used it and just switched to doing it manually. But it's worth trying out (just double-check the patch that's sent up)
[23:56:43] <satish_> atwilson: i'll try the -s option. thanks.
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