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[00:07:12] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by bevc at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Vista Perf(1) needs reboot)
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[00:51:05] <maruel> rebooting vista perf 1
[00:52:56] <maruel> there was a disk defrag going on
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[01:34:53] <rohitrao_> is msneck around?
[01:36:02] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by maruel at chromium dot org: Tree is open
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[01:36:54] <rohitrao_> maruel: thanks for bringing back vista perf :)
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[01:42:33] <maruel> np
[01:44:04] <rohitrao> I emailed msneck
[01:47:14] <tonyg-cr> my clobber on the webkit windows builder finally worked, i'm going to wait for it to show up on mac too before submitting http://codereview.chromium.org/3019009
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[02:05:45] <rohitrao> msneck has asked to roll back his change, but I'm running out to dinner
[02:05:57] <rohitrao> If someone else gets to it, great, otherwise I'll revert when I get back
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[02:23:57] <sky_> msneck: nacl faliing tests you?
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[02:47:14] <rohitrao> sky_: I'm going to revert msneck's change now
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[02:55:02] <rohitrao> reverted
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[03:09:00] <Kenjin> Hello
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[03:57:22] <yakattak> PDF viewing should be in the latest builds right?
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[04:23:22] <yakattak> anyone?
[04:35:41] <tfarina> yakattak: I think no one is here in a sunday night :)
[04:37:58] <Kuwanger> Hello.  Does anyone here know if chromium overrides the temp dir with sqlite3?
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[04:41:30] <crash68> is anyone here?
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[09:22:54] <a69oker> hello...
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[09:24:59] <a69oker> where would I start if I wanted to change the default search provider in chrome .... plugin..? extension...?
[09:25:09] <a69oker> where would I start...?
[09:26:20] <lindi-> a69oker: default? you mean you are system adminisrator and want to set it for all users?
[09:26:47] <a69oker> no something like this http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee318470(VS.85).aspx
[09:27:11] <a69oker> have a program that changes is to my choice
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[09:28:47] <lindi-> a69oker: I'm confused. in chromium you can do this via the UI already?
[09:29:32] <a69oker> yes, but I need it to run from a program automatically to my defined address
[09:30:27] <a69oker> it would be an executable
[09:30:38] <a69oker> that once clicked will go on and change the provider
[09:30:49] <lindi-> a69oker: ok. what's the background story here?
[09:30:58] <a69oker> just an assignment
[09:31:36] <a69oker> just a little confused on where to start...
[09:32:08] <a69oker> the link has a good example but it's for IE
[09:32:09] <lindi-> a69oker: ok. I'm not sure if chromium supports that sorry.
[09:33:21] <a69oker> lindi-: there are many toolbars out there that change the search provider for all browsers I'm just not sure how they do it:)...
[09:34:19] <a69oker> thanx anyways
[09:34:33] <a69oker> I'll manage somehow
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[09:53:20] <jochen__> good morning ppl
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[09:56:22] <Brainenjii> hello world
[09:56:29] <hwennborg> morning
[09:56:47] <Brainenjii> is it possible to not ask for proxy authorization everytime?
[09:57:16] <Brainenjii> I mean, set username and password in parameters or file?
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[09:58:53] <mhiku> is there a sample code for npapi command in extension?ive trying to call a dll but it said that Error: Error calling method on NPObject!
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[09:59:48] <mhiku> i need to get the processor serial number of the host pc... please help me, ive been searching google for this
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[11:29:12] <timing> in the developer tools resources tab, I sometimes see duplicate entries of download files on pages
[11:29:24] <timing> is this a bug or do I really include all the images and js twice?
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[11:30:15] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Chromium Linux Builder (dbg-shlib)" from 52888: bauerb at chromium dot org)
[11:31:04] <pamg> timing: I'm not aware of that as a bug, but you can search http://crbug.com to see if anyone else has reported it as one.
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[11:40:21] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by bauerb at chromium dot org: Tree is open (compile fix is in)
[11:42:22] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Chromium Linux x64" from 52888: bauerb at chromium dot org)
[11:42:45] <jochen__> :)
[11:42:56] <bauerb> stupid lagging builders
[11:43:15] <jochen__> keep it closed with (should cycle green)
[11:43:20] <jochen__> otherwise it'll close a few more times
[11:44:23] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by bauerb at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (waiting to cycle green)
[11:44:24] <pfeldman> maruel: somebody please kick the win fyi bot
[11:49:02] <pamg> pfeldman: Which bot specifically please?
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[11:58:23] <pfeldman> pamg: oh! moment!
[11:58:43] <pfeldman> pamg: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall.fyi/waterfall?branch=&builder=Webkit+(webkit.org)
[11:58:49] <pfeldman> and please, teach me doing this.
[12:02:51] <pamg> pfeldman: Well, in this case, that bot isn't even responding to ping, so I can't bring it back. I'll ask Nicolas or Bev to contact the ops people about it.
[12:04:30] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by bauerb at chromium dot org: Tree is open
[12:07:11] <pamg> Hm, actually i might be able to bring the bot back. Let me look...
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[13:07:10] <pamg> pfeldman: Bot is back. Sorry it took so long; I had to install some tools... and eat lunch to fortify myself for the task. Unfortunately it required logging into the machine, and I can't distribute the password, so I can't tach you how to do it. But it should be rare.
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[13:13:29] <jibot> erickt is an aspiring WebKit SVG hacker
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[13:32:26] <loislo> timing: it was fixed http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=29076
[13:33:23] <loislo> timing: 2 days ago
[13:34:18] <timing> loislo: a thanks!
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[13:37:41] <pfeldman> pamg: which account is it? (i might have a password)
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[13:42:28] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by bauerb at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (bauerb landing GRD change)
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[13:56:39] <Emperorlou> I think I may have found a bug with Chrome and the XHR
[13:57:18] <Emperorlou> I'm using 2 XHR. One for streaming from the server and the other to POST updates to the server.
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[13:58:07] <boubak> Hi
[13:58:34] <Emperorlou> In firefox everything is great but in Chrome it appears that when I'm sending a message to the server, the reply is sometimes missed (when run locally, success rate is about 80%. When a PC over the internet is running it, the success rate is about 40% or less)
[13:58:43] <boubak> I have an issue with chromium, I can't play an ogg stream provided by vlc
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[14:02:58] <loislo> Emperorlou: Did you check the replays by Resource panel or Timeline panel?
[14:03:11] <Emperorlou> I did
[14:03:25] <Emperorlou> The message is not received but it is sent
[14:03:59] <Emperorlou> and I confirmed that i'm sending it from the server
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[14:06:34] <Emperorlou> to be fair I'm not able to see the received text anywhere in javascript dev
[14:06:55] <Emperorlou> the only way I know it' snot received is the fact that onreadystatechange is not executed
[14:07:39] <Emperorlou> and it appears firefox is 100% too
[14:08:37] <Emperorlou> I suppose the javascript dev tool didn't expect xhr to be used in this way
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[14:22:27] <boubak> Can anybody help me?
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[14:26:15] <pfeldman> Emperorlou: do you have a code snippet?
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[14:28:48] <danno_> boubak: see topic
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[14:43:43] <boubak> danno_: thanks
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[14:55:15] <pinkerton> morning all
[14:55:31] <pinkerton> besides the grd change, how's the tree?
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[14:58:33] <bauerb> pinkerton: not too bad i think
[14:58:39] <pinkerton> cool
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[14:58:45] <pinkerton> i will rule today with an iron fist
[14:58:50] <pinkerton> and an iron tiara
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[15:01:47] <becomingGuru> Hi Does anybody else have their chrome broke on lucid
[15:02:13] <becomingGuru> My chrome bloody doesn't seem to execute document.ready
[15:02:19] <becomingGuru> I cant upvote on stackoverflow
[15:02:37] <becomingGuru> and I cant see any scrolls rather lists 1 by 1
[15:03:08] <becomingGuru> It didn't help when I removed all my extension, all my local data and replaced with the stable version
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[15:07:10] <bauerb> pinkerton: awesome, i'll fetch my iron tutu
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[15:07:59] <pinkerton> hrm, one of the xptests stayed red
[15:08:07] <pinkerton> after the whitespace change
[15:08:13] <pinkerton> did it get clobbered?
[15:08:25] <bauerb> no...
[15:08:38] <pinkerton> oh, duh, it's a tester.
[15:09:22] <bauerb> but it's failing sync_unit_tests after the whitespace cl, and unit_tests before
[15:10:36] <pinkerton> could those failures be legit, or is it flake?
[15:11:34] <bauerb> i'm not even sure what the exact failure is
[15:13:31] <pinkerton> i guess let's keep an eye on it
[15:14:01] <pinkerton> everything else looks like it's going green nicely
[15:15:07] <bauerb> yup
[15:16:14] <pinkerton> should we reopen, or give it a little longer?
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[15:16:46] <bauerb> i'd say reopen, but i'm an optimist
[15:17:03] <pinkerton> it's early, let's open
[15:17:17] <pinkerton> it's not like there are 200 brett's all landing now :)
[15:18:30] <Emperorlou> As for a code snippet, here is a link to the demo app: http://nik.redirectme.net:8081/RPGGameDemo/
[15:18:52] <Emperorlou> when you connect, you'll find that when you're moving around, sometimes when you click it simply doesn't work (in chrome)
[15:18:56] <Emperorlou> but in firefox it works every time
[15:19:37] <Peter`> What does GRD stand for?
[15:23:40] <Emperorlou> whoa..sorry *when you connect, if you try to move around, sometimes when you're clicking the arrow button it simply doesn't work. The message is being received by the server but the reply is not being received by chrome
[15:24:04] <pinkerton> reopened tree
[15:24:31] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is open
[15:25:00] <pinkerton> Peter`: GRIT Resource Database format (GRD)
[15:25:45] <Peter`> Thank you, that gives me new terms to search for!
[15:26:07] <pinkerton> (i can tell you what grit stands for, but you didn't ask that) :)
[15:26:20] <Peter`> Hehe, please :)
[15:26:33] <pinkerton> GDS Resource Internationalization Tool
[15:26:40] <pinkerton> GDS = google desktop
[15:26:56] <pinkerton> grit was developed for GD by joi
[15:27:12] <pinkerton> and then he open sourced it
[15:27:15] <Peter`> Okay, makes more sense now. Does it affect such large parts of Chrome that it requires a full rebuild (since the tree seems to close more often for GRD changes)
[15:27:24] <pinkerton> yes
[15:28:11] <pinkerton> any time you change a grd file, you change string ids, which we use all over the code
[15:29:17] <Peter`> Is it the current internationalization system in use (which still is closed-source I believe) or will it be replacing that?
[15:29:56] <pinkerton> it is chromium's i18n system
[15:29:59] <pinkerton> it is open source
[15:30:07] <pinkerton> we will not be replacing it AFAIK
[15:31:05] <Peter`> I see, very clear, thanks!
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[16:06:27] <user242> can anyone help me with a small question?
[16:06:57] <user242> was wandering in ie it's possible to set the default search provider like this:
[16:07:00] <user242> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee318470(VS.85).aspx
[16:07:07] <user242> how would I do this for chrome-browser?
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[16:26:06] <pinkerton> maruel: ping?
[16:29:30] <loislo> Emperorlou: I see the problem when I press the button two or more time with small delay.
[16:30:13] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Vista perf -> ??)
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[16:31:15] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "unit_tests" on "Linux Tests (dbg-shlib)(1)" from 52902: nkostylev at google dot com)
[16:32:19] <pinkerton> nkostylev: ping?
[16:34:41] <loislo> Emperorlou: Is there the problem you have found?
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[16:37:40] <pinkerton> it's definitely nkostylev
[16:37:44] <pinkerton> i'm gonna back him out
[16:38:47] <Emperorlou> loislo: Yeah, when you connect and try moving around, some clicks get lost
[16:38:51] <Emperorlou> but not in firefox
[16:38:55] <Emperorlou> it only seems to happenw ith chrome
[16:39:23] <Emperorlou> however, loss also occurs if you're behind a proxy (even in FF) but tahts a different issue
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[16:41:22] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (backed out nkostylev, making sure linux goes green)
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[16:48:56] <nkostylev> pinkerton: sorry, missed out tests
[16:49:24] <pinkerton> nkostylev: shouldn't the try server have caught that?
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[16:50:37] <nkostylev> pinkerton: right - tests passed fine there
[16:50:57] <pinkerton> that's odd
[16:50:59] <nkostylev> seems like bot went stale and couldn't link
[16:51:30] <nkostylev> I'm looking into it
[16:51:34] <pinkerton> ok thanks
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[16:54:31] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is open
[16:54:33] <pinkerton> linux looks better, opened tree
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[16:55:22] <nkostylev> These tests linked fine on Linux bot
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[16:55:31] <pinkerton> evmar: ^^
[16:56:00] <pinkerton> i'm not sure what's different about those test machines.
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[17:11:43] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "unit_tests" on "Mac10.5 Tests" from 52905: nick at chromium dot org, pinkerton at google dot com)
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[17:12:51] <pinkerton> i love how f-ing slow the waterfall is
[17:13:03] <rsesek> looks like a crashing test
[17:13:28] <pinkerton> it must be flaky, nothing looks related check-in wise
[17:14:21] <pinkerton> should i mark it as flaky and reopen?
[17:14:38] <rsesek> no, you'll have to disable it if it crashes
[17:14:52] <rohitrao> I kinda want the default waterfall view to show me only CLs with unfinished bot runs
[17:14:58] <rsesek> flaky is for tests that don't pass all the time
[17:15:01] <pinkerton> right, duh
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[17:16:43] <pinkerton> i'm going to re-open while i do that, i don't think there's anything helped by keeping the tree closed
[17:17:23] <nickcarter> pinkerton: saw the breakage, my change ought to be harmless
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[17:17:34] <pinkerton> yeah, and mine is a revert
[17:17:41] <pinkerton> so there's something flaky going on
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[17:17:48] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is open (fixing Mac10.5Tests)
[17:19:06] <thakis> my chance to break the tree!
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[17:25:33] <pfeldman> tony^work: i've done a couple of rolls
[17:28:11] <Emperorlou> loislo: I also noticed that I can't see the incoming streamed data in the JS debugger. Any way you can add that in while you're at it? :)
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[17:33:26] <pinkerton> sheriff is lunching. be gentle or...else....
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[17:38:09] <loislo> Emperorlou: right now it is not possible to show the content of the request if it is not closed.
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[17:43:08] <Emperorlou> ah thats too bad
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[17:47:29] <rjkroege> does anybody know where the chromeos build of chrome looks for extensions?
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[17:48:07] <rjkroege> my build of chrome with chromeos set to 1 builds and runs fine under linux but refuses to find built-in extensions like the bookmark manager
[17:49:30] <sacstate> When I build chrome source windows  timer tick sets to 15.6ms while the setup external sets to 1ms while running no workload. Where should I change the code to test performance while running with different timer tick
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[17:56:35] <dglazkov> good morning, Chromium!
[17:56:35] <trungl-bot> dglazkov: Good morning!
[17:56:48] <pinkerton> hrm, i just built and i get a #FIXME error in the webkit idl
[17:56:51] <pinkerton> anyone else seeing that?
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[18:03:42] <thakis> morning, dglazkov
[18:03:49] <thakis> pinkerton: i saw that too
[18:03:53] <thakis> pinkerton: it's harmless tho
[18:04:17] <pinkerton> harmless in that i had to build twice, the first time broke my build.
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[18:09:16] <pinkerton> rohitrao: can you lgtm that cl?
[18:09:25] <rohitrao> pinkerton: which cl?
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[18:11:21] <rsesek> pinkerton: landing a CL with a grd change, but it's conditional for title casing strings, so it shouldn't have fallout
[18:11:23] <rsesek> I'll watch it tho
[18:11:40] <pinkerton> ok, so it's darwin-only?
[18:11:44] <rsesek> yea
[18:11:52] <pinkerton> ok that shouldn't affect win, i hope
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[18:11:58] <trungl> Good morning, dglazkov!
[18:12:03] * trungl is a bit slow.
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[18:14:41] <user242> can someone tell me in what database chromium stores it's Search provider data?
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[18:17:36] <pinkerton> how do i view all changes between two revisions?
[18:17:45] <rsesek> svn log -rA:B
[18:18:02] <pinkerton> there's no webpage to view the results?
[18:18:09] <rsesek> there is I just don't remember the URL
[18:18:11] <user242> is it Web Data...?
[18:18:12] <pinkerton> lol
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[18:18:23] <pinkerton> i love our tools
[18:18:24] <rsesek> http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/dashboard/ui/changelog.html?url=/trunk/src&range=52279:51654&mode=html
[18:18:40] <pinkerton> i guess that works, though i'm not looking for perf
[18:18:49] <pinkerton> but heh, if all you have are hammers....
[18:18:54] <rsesek> that's the changelog viewer that is used on googlechromereleases.blogspot.com
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[18:19:04] <pinkerton> ahh
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[18:20:00] <rohitrao> user242: I think it's Web Data, in the keywords table
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[18:20:28] <user242> rohitrao: thanx
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[18:25:46] <leonardo__> Hi, I'm using google chrome on a debian 64bits. I would like to have the 32 and 64 bits of chrome on the same system
[18:25:51] <leonardo__> is itt possible
[18:26:23] <leonardo__> ?
[18:26:40] <leonardo__> It's because I need to run a plugin that only works on 32 bits version
[18:26:57] <Namegduf> leonardo__: Use nspluginwrapper
[18:27:30] <leonardo__> Namegduf: How to do this?
[18:27:43] <leonardo__> what are the steps?
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[18:28:11] <rohitrao> let's move this to #chromium-support
[18:28:47] <leonardo__> ok
[18:28:53] <leonardo__> one minute
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[18:41:05] <jibot> aroben is a Safari/WebKit engineer and is an Aerobed and is pippity-poppity and the enforcer of null-checking, period
[18:41:06] <jibot> aroben is a Safari/WebKit engineer and is an Aerobed and is pippity-poppity and the enforcer of null-checking, period
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[18:48:59] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is open
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[18:50:01] <leonardo__> How have the 32 and 64 bits of  chrome on a debian 64 bits ?
[18:50:19] <leonardo__> the two version together
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[18:52:11] <magn3ts> I specify Cache-Control and Pragma and yet I can't get Chrome to not cache my JS..
[18:52:56] <Emperorlou> loislo: I implemented the message queue
[18:53:18] <cbentzel> magn3ts: Please enter a bug at new.crbug.com if you think there is problematic behavior.
[18:53:26] <Emperorlou> loislo: Difficult to test locally but I believe it's working
[18:54:05] <loislo> Emperorlou: do you have test suit for that? :)
[18:55:36] <Emperorlou> have I coded any testing tools? I haven't
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[18:58:17] <Emperorlou> oh I understand, no I don't
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[19:02:42] <chase> sheriffs: i took vista perf (1) offline to install updates, restart, and try another build
[19:02:55] <gregoryd> All: I'd like to submit a grd change. Is anybody interested to join me so we don't have to close the tree several times?
[19:03:40] <pinkerton> chase: thx
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[19:06:17] <pinkerton> gregoryd: give it another 2mins or so, we should make sure you check in before the win builders finish their current attempt so you can land before they start again.
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[19:07:22] <pinkerton> last call for any other grd changes?
[19:08:08] <pinkerton> gregoryd: ready?
[19:08:40] <gregoryd> yep
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[19:09:14] <pinkerton> gregoryd: tree is closed, go for it with --force
[19:09:19] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (gregoryd landing grd change)
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[19:11:58] <arv> I would also like to land a grd change
[19:11:58] <gregoryd> pinkerton: will take another second, tree out of sync
[19:12:23] <sky_> me 2
[19:12:28] <Emperorlou> loislo: I tested the message queue on a remote PC and it seems to be working
[19:12:31] <thakis> rsesek: i patched in your animation cl and don't see an animation when a popup is blocked
[19:12:51] <Emperorlou> so now any lost messages should simply be due to the bug I was describing
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[19:13:23] <pinkerton> gregoryd: dangit, one of the cr builders completed
[19:13:51] <arv> pinkerton: me and sky wants to land grd changes. When is a good time?
[19:13:56] <pinkerton> now.
[19:14:10] <pinkerton> like right now.
[19:14:50] <sky_> I need to do another build, I won't be ready for 5-7 minutes.
[19:15:00] <sky_> I can wait til the next grd train (or tonight) if necessary.
[19:15:14] <pinkerton> gregoryd: where are you with your changes?
[19:15:31] <gregoryd> pinkerton: syncing, sorry for the delay
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[19:15:57] <pinkerton> if you, arv, and sky can coordinate in the next 10mins, and all land together, that would rock.
[19:16:23] <arv> sorry. too late :'(
[19:16:31] <pinkerton> oh heh
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[19:17:06] <pinkerton> ok well then gregoryd and sky can land shortly
[19:18:26] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (arv, sky, gregoryd landing grd changes)
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[19:22:10] <sky_> I'm good to go. SHould I lande now?
[19:22:19] <pinkerton> yeah
[19:22:38] <pkasting> Darn, I missed the window.  I'm not ready to land my grd changes yet
[19:23:18] <gregoryd> ok, I am ready too
[19:23:26] <sky_> what's the git commit for --force?
[19:23:46] <sky_> the equivalent of svn --force?
[19:23:48] <pinkerton> i'm off to 3 meetings, but i'll have my laptop to watch the tree and i'll be on irc
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[19:25:26] <sky_> landed
[19:26:23] <gregoryd> me too
[19:26:33] <pink_mbp> and now we wait for the pain :D
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[19:41:27] <rsesek> thakis: did the image get patched in correctly?
[19:41:35] <rsesek> I removed it from PS5
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[19:45:49] <gregoryd> I submitted the whitespace change (as part of the grd change protocol).
[19:46:20] <gregoryd> Sheriffs: should I open the tree now?
[19:47:18] <pink_meetings> no, i'd wait for the test bots to go green
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[19:47:58] <pink_meetings> i don't want things to get out of hand today, which they very quickly could
[19:49:13] <gregoryd> ok
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[19:58:43] <disappearedng> hey can you guys visit this: http://diveintohtml5.org/geolocation.html and try the geolocation API demo? I am using build 5.0.375.70 (48679) and it *doesn't* work
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[19:59:06] <phajdan-jr> michaeln: ping
[19:59:12] <evmar> disappearedng: that is not a version of chrome we support
[19:59:26] <disappearedng> oh really?
[19:59:35] <evmar> is your updater broken?
[19:59:40] <disappearedng> is it too old?
[19:59:49] <phajdan-jr> I'd need some help with weird WebKit compile error on Mac when I try to roll to latest bundled ICU: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/mac/builds/38724/steps/compile/logs/stdio
[19:59:58] <phajdan-jr> Can anyone take a look and see what might be wrong?
[20:00:03] <phajdan-jr> It's Mac-specific
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[20:00:45] <leiz> do we need to kick vista perf 2?
[20:03:10] <evmar> phajdan-jr: ../../../icu/public/common/unicode/uchar.h:2342: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'UCharEnumTypeRange'
[20:03:19] <evmar> phajdan-jr: looks like it is broken by your icu change
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[20:03:35] <evmar> phajdan-jr: i'm not sure if that's what you're askign about :)
[20:03:37] <chase> leiz: yeah, looks like it
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[20:03:58] <phajdan-jr> evmar: lemme take a closer look at that... the roll contains some changes other than mine...
[20:04:07] <chase> leiz: i just finished looking into vista perf 1, i can take a look at vista perf 2
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[20:04:41] <chase> pink_meetings: i have a change to perf expectations that will green up vista perf 1, should i land later or force-land now?
[20:04:53] <pink_mbp> you can force-land, i think
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[20:05:42] <phajdan-jr> evmar: the header file looks fine. The only meaningful thing that has changed seems to be thy icu.gyp file (my change).
[20:06:13] <phajdan-jr> evmar: there are already some hacks there, for example rules with ++. Maybe I should change them to +++? I don't really know what that means.
[20:06:19] <chase> pink_mbp: landed, thanks
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[20:07:52] <leiz> chase: ok, thanks!
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[20:08:37] <leiz> chase: btw, is there any docs on how to adjust the perf expectations? mac 10.5 perf warm-t was slowly creeping up last thurs/friday and I couldn't find a clear culprit, but I didn't know how to adjust the expectations.
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[20:11:00] <evmar> phajdan-jr: those are related to whehter the include path comes first or last on the -I list, but i don't know the actual meanings
[20:11:06] <chase> leiz: re: mac you're talking about http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36852 ?
[20:11:43] <chase> leiz: about perf expectations, there is documentation at http://dev.chromium.org/developers/testing/chromium-build-infrastructure/performance-test-plots.
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[20:13:04] <leiz> chase: ah, maybe that's the problem.
[20:13:37] <phajdan-jr> evmar: but if I increased its nesting level in gyp by one, might adding the "+" help"? My idea was to ask markmentovai, but it seems he's not yet here.
[20:13:40] <chase> leiz: it is, the perf expectations are making everyone aware of it.  the best fix for now is to reboot the system periodically.
[20:14:00] <evmar> phajdan-jr: i believe it's documented on the gyp project site
[20:14:47] <phajdan-jr> evmar: ok, I'll check that
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[20:37:02] <jochen__> evmar: ping
[20:38:34] <chase> leiz: i rebooted vista perf 2, seems to have gotten it past the extract build failure
[20:38:42] <evmar> jochen__: hi
[20:39:39] <jochen__> evmar: could you please review http://codereview.chromium.org/2808053 (gtk bits)?
[20:40:12] <thakis> maruel: which file controls which test binaries are run on the bots?
[20:40:34] <thakis> jibot: help
[20:40:45] <thakis> ?help
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[20:43:52] <leiz> sheriffs: can I land http://codereview.chromium.org/3010012/show ?
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[20:44:53] <evmar> jochen__: comments sent
[20:45:52] <evmar> ~iiiiii've been waiting on the chrooooome treeeeeee, alllll the live long dayyyyyyyy~
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[20:47:42] <thakis> what's "live long" mean?
[20:47:51] <thakis> in that context, i mean
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[20:48:06] <evmar> sorry, americanism
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[20:48:07] <evmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I've_Been_Working_on_the_Railroad
[20:48:16] <evmar> i don't actually know, i guess it's obsolete english
[20:48:41] <evmar> google has people asking about it and the answer just quotes that song
[20:48:57] <thakis> evmar: heh, thanks :-)
[20:49:36] <shess> evmar: If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning, I'd hammer in the evening, All over this land
[20:49:45] <shess> evmar: Wish I had a hammer.
[20:50:11] <pink_meetings> tests just went green, i'm opening
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[20:50:24] <shess> maybe we could re-create that scene in office space with an old trybot ...
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[20:50:30] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is open
[20:50:49] <pinkerton> shess: ha!
[20:50:55] <evmar> bah, i started refactoring my lg'd change, now i don't care if the tree is open
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[20:51:16] <shess> don't worry about it, I'm "taking care of it" right now.
[20:51:46] * pinkerton notices 2 macbots failing tests
[20:52:20] <pinkerton> chase: could your change have affected mac startup?
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[20:53:59] <shess> pinkerton: startup test has been borderline for a bit.
[20:54:00] <jrg> pinkerton ping
[20:54:05] <pinkerton> pong
[20:54:12] <jrg> pinkerton: no mikesmith so perhaps we don't need 1230PST x-func?
[20:54:26] <pinkerton> rohit was asking the same question
[20:54:34] <jrg> pinkerton: ok let's cancel then
[20:54:40] <pinkerton> how are our crash #s?
[20:54:51] <pinkerton> are we on track to hit 0 m6 bugs any time soon?
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[20:55:15] <jrg> pinkerton: don't know crash; perhaps you can look it up.  # bugs is ~90 which is way too high.  Not sure if we have easy answers.
[20:55:21] <thakis_afk> pinkerton: back me out if i broke the tree
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[20:56:39] <pinkerton> jrg: crash numbers look really bad
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[20:57:19] <chase> pinkerton: i don't think so, i don't see an increase around my change, just the steady increase we know about already on mac.  there's a bump around r52487 of about 15 ms, though.
[20:57:38] <shess> pinkerton: the renderer crash numbers are a shared issue.  browser and plug-in numbers don't look horrid for 458.1.
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[20:58:21] <pinkerton> chase: ok, wasn't sure if you were changing the baselines that might cause that to fail
[20:58:29] <shess> pinkerton: unforunately, we missed 466.0 because of my location-icon bug (trivial fix, but wasn't caught soon enough or something).  Don't know if it was going to re-push or wait for tonight's build.
[20:58:44] <chase> pinkerton: not that time, i have another CL on the way to adjust the baselines to make that step green for now
[20:58:50] <pinkerton> k
[20:58:55] <markmentovai> shess, pinkerton: on friday, laforge said that he was planning on shipping 466.3 as the mac dev channel today.
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[20:59:07] <markmentovai> including shess' icon fix
[20:59:13] <nsylvain> pinkerton: a bunch of bots are failing all the tests, mainly because of grd.  They'll take a lot of time to run if we don't kill them
[20:59:21] <nsylvain> I'll start the killing
[20:59:24] <shess> markmentovai: ok, that's good.  I was just going to email about it, since my fix was converting a >= to a <= or something equally dire.
[20:59:37] <markmentovai> as long as it?s accompanied by a unit test.
[20:59:39] <pinkerton> nsylvain: ok, xptests went green after teh whitespace so i figured it was mostly ok
[21:00:17] <pinkerton> jrg: nm, i was looking at the wrong stats page.
[21:00:37] <pinkerton> browser is at 196 for 458, which is pretty good still.
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[21:01:43] <pinkerton> jrg: our renderer crashes are 10x what stable was, though
[21:02:18] <pinkerton> jrg: should i send some email to folks?
[21:03:03] <markmentovai> pinkerton: i've been lax about checking those and filing bugs, but shess seems to have been doing it
[21:03:20] <markmentovai> the renderer crash rates are up by a similar factor on windows, too
[21:03:36] <pinkerton> yeah
[21:03:43] <markmentovai> fishd, dglazkov: i am officially expressing concern about this.
[21:03:54] <pinkerton> i'll send email to them in case it doesn't register in irc
[21:03:56] <shess> pinkerton: what markmentovai said.  There are some OOM problems in there which we've been tracking for a few weeks or so.
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[21:06:17] <shess> eroman: anything to add to above q's around renderer crashes?
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[21:06:28] <pinkerton> markmentovai: win is back down to 2x with 466
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[21:06:39] <markmentovai> maybe we will be too?
[21:06:45] <pinkerton> maybe?
[21:06:54] <pinkerton> i guess i'll hold off emailing.
[21:07:20] * pinkerton watches the pile-on
[21:09:06] <chase> pinkerton: pre-emptive close to let the tree catch up?
[21:09:28] <pinkerton> chase: does seem wise, i guess.
[21:09:42] <pinkerton> chase: you going to?
[21:10:37] <pinkerton> nm, i closed it.
[21:10:44] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by pinkerton at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (letting everything catch up)
[21:10:58] * pinkerton wonders where the other 2 sheriffs are.
[21:11:37] <markmentovai> hbono is supposed to be in tokyo
[21:12:25] <chase> pinkerton: ok, thanks
[21:12:26] <pinkerton> ok, that would explain it
[21:13:31] <pinkerton> then who is cevans?
[21:13:46] <markmentovai> not online
[21:13:50] <chase> cevans is chris evans
[21:14:12] <markmentovai> chase is supposed to sit close to him
[21:14:19] <pkasting> pinkerton: Can I commit something that adds two images but doesn't touch anything else (including .gyp*)?  I just need it in the tree so I can run trybots on a patch that requires it
[21:14:50] <pinkerton> pkasting: i've added images before, the trybots don't have a problem with that
[21:15:17] <pinkerton> what's their complaint?
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[21:15:50] <pkasting> pinkerton: Generally trybots have told me they can't apply my patch ("update failed"), so instead I commit in three passes: Add new binaries, the change itself (including .gyp/.grd changes), remove old binaries
[21:17:27] <pinkerton> weird, i've never had problems with that
[21:17:49] <pinkerton> i just checked the faq page and didn't see any mention either
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[21:18:20] <markmentovai> i figger the tree will probably be caught up in a few minutes
[21:18:47] <pkasting> If the tree is going to open in minutes, I can just wait
[21:19:41] <shess> rohitrao: yeah, looks like I'll have plenty of time to patch that in and test it :-).
[21:20:11] <rohitrao> shess: are you on 10.5?
[21:20:31] <shess> rohitrao: yeah.
[21:20:37] <rohitrao> ok, maybe that was it
[21:20:42] <shess> probably will upgrade post-m6.
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[21:23:09] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: ping
[21:23:13] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr:
[21:23:24] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: I have some trouble with that system icu gyp change
[21:23:38] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: there's a mac-specific compile error at http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/mac/builds/38724/steps/compile/logs/stdio
[21:23:53] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: it still builds with use_system_icu=0, so something gyp-like must have gone wrong it seems
[21:24:36] <pinkerton> i thought we didn't want to use the system icu
[21:24:41] <markmentovai> it?s certainly complaining about icu
[21:24:49] <markmentovai> right, it?s not supposed to use system icu on mac ever.
[21:25:31] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: where?s your change again?
[21:25:36] <phajdan-jr> sec
[21:25:46] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: http://codereview.chromium.org/3031006/show
[21:26:52] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: i?d suggest looking at a ?diff -w? between old icu.gyp and your changed icu.gyp
[21:27:24] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: the use_system_icu=0 branch is identical
[21:27:41] <markmentovai> and this try job is not trying to use use_system_icu=1 or anything like that, is it?
[21:27:41] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: its nesting level is increased by one though
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[21:28:01] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: no, the try job rolls the DEPS for our bundled icu repo (it contains some other changes too)
[21:28:17] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: what happens if you do a job that rolls DEPS but does not include your icu.gyp change?
[21:28:32] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: good question, will do
[21:29:55] <phajdan-jr> submitted, will report back when it finishes
[21:30:04] <markmentovai> thanks
[21:30:54] <pinkerton> 15 win try jobs pending
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[21:31:20] <akalin> greetings chromiumites
[21:31:29] <akalin> oops, forgot to tmux
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[21:32:07] <pinkerton> ok before the wave hits again, i'm going to run home. back online in about 25mins
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[21:32:18] <markmentovai> aw crap, i was about to suggest reopening
[21:32:29] <pink_mbp> lol you were not
[21:32:38] <markmentovai> yes, i actually had my message composed halfway already
[21:32:42] <pink_mbp> look at all those win bots still pending
[21:32:43] <markmentovai> all of the compiles are green
[21:32:56] <jrg> pinkerton: sorry I was at lunch
[21:32:58] <pink_mbp> i'm worried about tests too
[21:33:03] <pink_mbp> but maybe i shouldn't be
[21:33:03] <markmentovai> your call.
[21:33:06] <pink_mbp> m/e shrugs
[21:33:08] <jrg> pinkerton: definitely send out email abotu crash stats
[21:33:25] <pink_mbp> markmentovai: feel free to reopen, i'll be back from home
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[21:33:33] <markmentovai> i'd reopen. won't hold it against you if you want to keep it closed. 
[21:33:33] <markmentovai> it's not like i've got anything to check in
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[21:39:25] <jochen__> evmar: once more please :)
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[21:46:15] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mark at chromium dot org (:markmentovai): Open
[21:50:31] <rohitrao> shess: I made the comment longer.  I don't really understand why this works, just that I was told it would work :)
[21:51:00] <shess> rohitrao: did it work to cancel the long-running animation, though?
[21:51:36] <rohitrao> shess: it looks ok to me? let me write a test app
[21:53:18] <shess> rohitrao: just to be clear, I meant when you do the slow-animation trick on a shrink, then cause a grow, does it snap on the grow?  The code looks like it assumes there is no current animation running in the !animate case.
[21:53:18] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Webkit Builder (dbg)" from 52936: markusheintz at chromium dot org)
[21:53:24] <markmentovai> markusheintz: that?s you.
[21:53:47] <markmentovai> markusheintz: you?re about to be backed out
[21:54:07] <tony^work> looks like a msvc compiler error
[21:54:14] <markmentovai> ah, maybe not, it probably just needs antoher cycle
[21:55:19] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by mark at chromium dot org (:markmentovai): Closed (watching Windows Webkit Builder (dbg))
[21:58:03] <markmentovai> markusheintz: off the hook. (but where are you?!)
[21:58:22] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mark at chromium dot org (:markmentovai): Open
[21:58:22] <markusheintz_> no I'm here
[21:58:24] <tony^work> yup, passed the second time
[21:58:39] <rohitrao> shess: no, apparently this doesn't work :)
[21:58:49] <rohitrao> shess: hrm, wonder what I was looking at 15 minutes ago
[21:58:57] <markmentovai> markusheintz_: why didn?t you respond to what appeared to be your breakage?
[22:00:04] <markusheintz_> well ... I needed to go somewhere ...
[22:00:10] <markusheintz_> now I'm back
[22:00:18] <markusheintz_> sorry
[22:00:30] <markusheintz_> am I of the hook ?
[22:00:32] <mnissler_> markmentovai: be a little nice to him, the day before feature freeze is not the best day to learn :)
[22:00:50] <jamesr> not the best day to land
[22:00:52] <markmentovai> markusheintz_: you're off the hook now, but please watch the tree after you check in
[22:00:56] <mnissler_> markusheintz_: as far as I can see, yes :)
[22:01:29] <markusheintz_> I'll watch the tree. No worries.
[22:01:34] <markmentovai> mnissler_: the day before feature freeze is a day that we should be especially careful about tree closures. i'm not being "not nice," i'm trying to keep everyone able to check in.
[22:02:16] <mabbo> anyone familiar with the buildbot able to gimme some help for a second?
[22:02:25] <mabbo> or rather, the tryboy
[22:02:27] <mabbo> trybot*
[22:02:29] <mnissler_> markmentovai: you are absolutely right, just wanted to point out that he's learning the process
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[22:02:41] <markmentovai> shess: looks like you now.
[22:02:51] <shess> markmentovai: dammit.
[22:03:12] <markmentovai> markusheintz_: welcome to the team.
[22:03:26] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by mark at chromium dot org (:markmentovai): Closed (Mac autocomplete_text_field_cell_unittest.mm, shess?)
[22:03:49] <markusheintz_> markmentovai: Thanks
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[22:05:21] <shess> think a merge removed an indirect header this was depending on.
[22:05:30] <markmentovai> shess: fix or back out
[22:05:31] <markmentovai> ?
[22:05:44] <shess> I am still in the client, so would prefer to fix.
[22:06:45] <shess> compiling.
[22:07:04] <rohitrao> shess: ah, it only cancels the animation if you set a non-zero duration.  intuitive, huh?
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[22:07:42] <pinkerton> markmentovai: thanks for covering while i was on the road
[22:07:46] <markmentovai> no prob
[22:11:09] <shess> markmentovai: http://codereview.chromium.org/3050002  or pinkerton
[22:11:22] <markmentovai> shess: lgtm
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[22:13:07] <shess> rohitrao: as I read it, the line which sets the null @"frame" key is what's cancelling the animation.  but when you restore the saved dictionary, you're re-instating the animation.
[22:13:42] <shess> rohitrao: I think the right solution is probably to have the !animate version just set the @"frame" key, then set the frame directly, pushing all of the animation code to the else clause.
[22:13:50] <rohitrao> shess: I think the animations dictionary isn't actually the set of running animations.  It's the set of instructions for what to do when you want to animate
[22:14:17] <shess> rohitrao: meaning that you need the 0-duration animation to tickle it?
[22:14:24] <rohitrao> shess: This is all magic voodoo that someone at Apple emailed to me when I asked how to cancel animations
[22:14:31] <rohitrao> there's some bug in AppKit
[22:15:11] <pinkerton> i thought the appkit bug was just on window opacity animations
[22:15:37] <markmentovai> i think it?s on a certain class of animations, including opacity but not limited to it
[22:15:52] <markmentovai> in one of those secret e-mails from apple, i think we have a list of what?s affected
[22:16:45] <rohitrao> NSView's frameOrigin and frameSize is definitely on the list, which is why I had so much trouble a year ago
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[22:17:20] <markmentovai> shess: ok on autocomplete_text_field_unittest.mm.
[22:17:22] <shess> mebbe we can make the omnibox popup a layer :-).
[22:17:33] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mark at chromium dot org (:markmentovai): Open
[22:17:35] <rohitrao> don't make me come over there
[22:17:48] <shess> you can't even get to NY.
[22:17:58] <rohitrao> not for want of trying
[22:18:07] <markmentovai> you have a car!
[22:18:08] <shess> snowstorm?
[22:18:26] <pinkerton> earthquakes
[22:18:27] <rohitrao> it's not horribly humid in ny, is it?
[22:18:40] <markmentovai> it?s not as bad today as it was at the end of last week
[22:19:08] <pinkerton> lol, my weather widget for mtv view says: 76 76 76 76  77 79
[22:20:03] <jamesr> pinkerton: a weather widget for mtv could just always say that
[22:20:09] <pinkerton> true
[22:20:21] <pinkerton> (LA Story-esque)
[22:21:29] <pinkerton> rsesek: where are we with the new NTB icon?
[22:21:44] <rsesek> pinkerton: blocked on cole. sent another mail ~40 mins ago
[22:21:48] <pinkerton> k
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[22:30:17] <pinkerton> what does this mean from the linux release bot:
[22:30:19] <pinkerton>  ERROR in /b/slave/chromium-rel-linux/build/src/chrome/app/chrome_dll_main.cc
[22:30:19] <pinkerton> Contains executable permission
[22:30:24] <markmentovai> markusheintz_: Chromium Linux check_perms step failure is you
[22:30:26] <markmentovai> pinkerton: ^
[22:30:42] <markmentovai> markusheintz_: you apparently set the x-bit on some files you were changing. the x-bit should be cleared.
[22:30:44] <markusheintz_> yeah I see
[22:31:17] <markusheintz_> which files?
[22:31:58] <pinkerton> do we do that check on other bots? i don't see it on mac
[22:31:58] <markusheintz_> working on it
[22:32:19] <markmentovai> pinkerton: i don?t know where we check it.
[22:32:31] <pinkerton> that's weird
[22:32:41] <markmentovai> markusheintz_: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Linux/builds/14014/steps/check%20perms/logs/stdio
[22:33:09] <leiz> markusheintz_: are you using git on windows?
[22:33:21] <markusheintz_> yeah
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[22:34:35] <leiz> markusheintz_: is core.filemode set to false?
[22:34:56] <jochen__> sheriffs
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[22:35:00] <jochen__> grd change coming in, ok?
[22:35:00] <markusheintz_> I thought I did that befor I committet
[22:35:20] <jochen__> pinkerton: ?
[22:35:42] <pinkerton> jochen__: can you ask and see if anyone else has one so we only have to close the tree once?
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[22:35:55] <markmentovai> pinkerton: checked the configs, Chromium Linux is the only bot that runs check_perms.
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[22:36:11] <pinkerton> markmentovai: i just checked mac, i didn't check win
[22:36:11] <jochen__> pinkerton: i can only ask here in the channel
[22:36:14] <leiz> markusheintz_: ya, we only need one bot to run it
[22:36:19] <pinkerton> jochen__: better than nothing :)
[22:36:20] <leiz> err, I meant that for mark
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[22:36:22] <phajdan-jr> pinkerton: how about putting info about the .grd train in the tree status? ;-)
[22:36:24] <markmentovai> yeah, i saw it
[22:36:33] <jochen__> anybody wanna join me for a grd change?
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[22:36:52] <markmentovai> leiz: does it exclude deps_os? because then we might want to run it on more than one platform.
[22:37:10] <markmentovai> suggest advertising a "grd landing time" in the tree status
[22:37:17] <phajdan-jr> jochen__: I've updated the status to help you
[22:37:20] <markusheintz_> leiz: core.filemode set to false
[22:37:33] <jochen__> yay :)
[22:37:42] <jochen__> now how long do we wait before the train leaves
[22:37:45] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by phajdan.jr at chromium dot org (:phajdan-jr): Open (.grd train boarding, please see #chromium)
[22:37:46] <leiz> markmentovai: since it only runs on Linux, it is missing out on win/mac only directories.
[22:37:59] <phajdan-jr> jochen__: up to you
[22:38:29] <pinkerton> jochen__: i'd say only wait 5 mins max
[22:38:39] <leiz> markusheintz_: let's talk offline
[22:38:42] <pinkerton> the win builders are chugging away
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[22:39:47] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by jochen at chromium dot org (:jochen__): Open (.grd train boarding, please see #chromium, leaving at 12:45 PST)
[22:40:10] <markmentovai> yeah, but they?re on PDT now.
[22:40:15] <pinkerton> 1:45 PDT
[22:40:51] <pinkerton> i don't think we'll get any more takers, but give 'em a minute or two just in case
[22:41:20] <pinkerton> pkasting: you said earlier you had a grd change, ready? or still trybot'ing?
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[22:42:27] <akalin> so what happened to the mac dev channel this week?
[22:42:41] <markmentovai> akalin: held up because the ssl lock icon was broken
[22:42:43] <rsesek> akalin: omahaproxy.appspot.com/pending ? qa review
[22:42:44] <akalin> oh
[22:42:46] <akalin> :(
[22:42:47] <pinkerton> what he said
[22:42:56] <markmentovai> THAT?S what he said.
[22:43:01] <pinkerton> jochen__: go for it. can you take care of closing the tree as well?
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[22:45:35] <jochen__> ok
[22:45:41] <phajdan-jr> leiz: thanks for catching the old ftp bugs to be closed. I've closed that last one.
[22:45:51] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by jochen at chromium dot org (:jochen__): Closed (grd change)
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[22:46:42] <leiz> phajdan-jr: n/p, but please fix the bug with ftp.slackware.com :)
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[22:47:06] <leiz> pinkerton: http://codereview.chromium.org/3042006/show to you
[22:47:10] <jochen__> should i commit a whitespace change once the builders started, or just open the tree once they started
[22:47:26] <leiz> pinkerton: I talked to markusheintz_ offline and we figured out why we tripped checkperms.py
[22:47:45] <markmentovai> jochen__: whitespace change won?t help unless it comes after the testers start working on your .grd change.
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[22:48:11] <markusheintz_> leiz: Thanks!
[22:48:34] <jochen__> the builders, right?
[22:48:44] <pinkerton> i wouldn't re-open until xptests or vistatests goes green
[22:48:57] <pinkerton> but i'm paranoid that way
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[22:50:18] <jochen__> looking at the tree, this will take a long time :)
[22:51:54] <leiz> pinkerton: my svn propdel cl should be safe, let me know when I can commit it.
[22:52:45] <pinkerton> leiz: i'm ok with that landing now
[22:53:24] <pinkerton> awww crap, jochen just missed the builder
[22:54:45] <jochen__> the compile failure is the usual pdb flakiness
[22:55:03] <jochen__> sorry for missing the builder
[22:55:21] <pinkerton> not your fault, i told you to wait :)
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[22:57:51] <phajdan-jr> leiz: sure, it's on my list. Just doing some download cleanups now to unblock other people and make our codebase more shiny.
[22:59:07] <fsamuel> Can anyone tell me where updates to SVG attributes are scheduled in the code from a set tag? e.g.  <set attributeName="stroke-width" to="4" begin="0s;3s" dur="0.2s"/>
[22:59:08] <phajdan-jr> leiz: if it's really caused by the revision you suggested, it's going to be fairly easy
[22:59:15] <thakis_afk> maruel: ping
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[23:00:48] <leiz> phajdan-jr: you can double check with the 32-bit linux continuous builds
[23:01:18] <akalin> gah, bitten by GURL using "is_empty()" instead of "empty()" yet again
[23:01:19] <phajdan-jr> leiz: I'll double check with my Wireshark :-)
[23:01:42] <phajdan-jr> and I'd like to keep MLSD
[23:01:57] <phajdan-jr> but it seems like FTP compatibility is full of traps
[23:02:46] <evmar> phajdan-jr: it really seems like a terrible protocol overall.  why do people still use it anyway?  PASV?
[23:03:00] <akalin> people still use FTP/
[23:03:13] <evmar> er, the opposite of PASV, i guess, is the only thing that distinguishes ftp
[23:03:29] <selckin> nobody has made anything better :/
[23:04:01] <akalin> sftp :(
[23:04:02] <rsesek> SFTP?
[23:04:05] <markmentovai> http.
[23:04:09] <akalin> dropbox
[23:04:11] <selckin> administration nightmare
[23:04:29] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: do you remember the system icu gyp issue from today's morning? Mac trybot passes if I roll just a revision before my gyp change.
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[23:04:40] <selckin> just try to log sftp with openssh, pita
[23:04:44] <phajdan-jr> evmar: dunno, it's simpler to set up than an HTTP server
[23:05:07] <akalin> isn't FTP a non-starter from a security perspective
[23:05:25] <rsesek> selckin: you don't have to use openssh; there's other sftp servers
[23:05:31] <phajdan-jr> akalin: I wouldn't say so. why?
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[23:05:49] <selckin> rsesek: can you recommond one?
[23:05:51] <akalin> i guess for anonymous uploads/downloads it's okay
[23:05:54] <rsesek> selckin: proftpd
[23:06:03] <akalin> is there a way to send user/pass in FTP not in cleartext?
[23:06:14] <phajdan-jr> akalin: anonymous uploads are actually suspicious from security POV. But anonymous downloads... yeah, that
[23:06:20] <phajdan-jr> 's the most common thing.
[23:06:24] <akalin> mmm
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[23:06:44] <phajdan-jr> and I would be reluctant to use any other server than vsftpd :-)
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[23:07:54] <phajdan-jr> akalin: ah, and you can use SSL with FTP. Some servers support that, including vsftpd.
[23:08:10] <phajdan-jr> or maybe it was TLS, not sure.
[23:09:04] <akalin> ah
[23:09:21] <akalin> is there a way to override chrome's language in OS X?
[23:09:25] <akalin> for testing
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[23:09:30] <rsesek> the system language list
[23:09:40] <akalin> that's the only way?
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[23:09:43] <rsesek> yea
[23:09:44] <akalin> ok
[23:09:44] <rsesek> it's not hard
[23:09:50] <rsesek> just quit chrome, change language list, relaunch
[23:09:53] <akalin> yeah
[23:09:56] <akalin> just checking
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[23:11:09] * thakis just learned about `git mergetool`
[23:11:16] <thakis> where has that been all my life?
[23:11:18] <leiz> akalin: great way to learn computer phrases in other languages
[23:11:22] <akalin> thakis: what's that
[23:11:31] <akalin> leiz: indeed
[23:11:48] <jamesr> thakis: oh my god
[23:12:00] <thakis> akalin: when you do `git rebase trunk` and get a lot of conflicts, `git mergetool` will open all conflicting files in a diff editor of your choice (with a sensible default) and add your changes
[23:12:13] <thakis> jamesr: up until now i never had serious merge conflicts
[23:12:23] <akalin> whoaaaa
[23:12:27] <jamesr> thakis: i just opened up all the conflicting files in gvim and did it by hand
[23:12:32] <akalin> yeah me too
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[23:12:40] <akalin> did you go to albert's talk or something
[23:12:43] <jamesr> you just saved me like at least 30 minutes sometime in the next month
[23:13:18] <thakis> akalin: no, i googled for "git merge conflicts vim" when i learned that i had 15 conflicts
[23:13:31] <thakis> cause i figured this has to be a solved problem
[23:14:04] <akalin> indeed
[23:14:15] <thakis> "git rebase" could srsly mention that mergetool exists
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[23:15:46] <thakis> (FileMerge (the default) isn't all that bad for conflicts. cmd-d to go to the next conflict, arrow-left/right to choose a hunk, cmd-s cmd-q to save. same in vim would be ]c , do/dp, :wq)
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[23:17:18] <scarybeasts> phajdan-jr: I wrote vsftpd, if you ever had any q's
[23:17:31] <phajdan-jr> scarybeasts: yes, I know :) And I really like it.
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[23:18:16] <scarybeasts> i apologize for any part i may have played in prolonging the FTP protocol :P
[23:18:31] <akalin> that reminds me, i need to file a bug to add gopher support to chrome
[23:18:37] <pinkerton> huge thunderstorms, i'm gonna sign off.
[23:18:39] <pinkerton> l8r all.
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[23:19:04] <phajdan-jr> akalin: there is one, want me to find it? ;-)
[23:19:10] <markmentovai> i guess that leaves us sheriffless.
[23:19:26] <phajdan-jr> oh no. I can be a drive-by sheriff, just ping me.
[23:19:29] <jochen__> open the tree!!
[23:19:48] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: by the way, could you take another look at my gyp issue? The try server succeeded if I roll one revision back before my gyp change.
[23:20:02] <akalin> phajdan-jr: lol really
[23:20:04] <markmentovai> "one revision back" - ?
[23:20:12] <markmentovai> we were going to roll DEPS of just icu, i thought
[23:20:57] <leiz> scarybeasts: ah, I never made the connection between you and beasts.org
[23:21:02] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: yes, so I've submitted to the trybot a roll to just one revision before my gyp change
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[23:21:16] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: there are some other changes in that rapo that haven't been rolled yet
[23:21:22] <phajdan-jr> *repo
[23:21:34] <scarybeasts> markmentovai: i'm a sheriff, albeit a jetlagged one
[23:21:43] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: can you tell me what you?re changing, and from/to what?
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[23:22:06] <markmentovai> scarybeasts: fantastic. the world?s on your shoulders, then.
[23:22:23] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: do you mean the roll or the change proper? Sorry about the confusion.
[23:22:54] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: i suspect i don't know entirely what i mean. i meant just the roll, but it sounds like there will be more to unfurl.
[23:23:22] <markmentovai> your "gyp change" was, i thought, just a change to icu.gyp
[23:23:23] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: here's the roll: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/mac/builds/38781/steps/gclient/logs/patch
[23:23:52] <markmentovai> ok. so you're saying that you tried both 52763 and 52762; 52762 was ok?
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[23:24:06] <markmentovai> sorry, -4, -3, -3
[23:24:12] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: I've tried exactly 52763 and it was ok
[23:24:28] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: and 52764 is fails (it's the gyp change)
[23:24:33] <markmentovai> ok. the results from earlier today were from 52764.
[23:24:57] <markmentovai> now, you said there was "other stuff" - you mean "other stuff" relative to 51076, included in the 52763 run, right? or do you mean more "other stuff?
[23:25:55] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: the "other stuff" is all included in 52763. It's the stuff before 51076 and 52763.
[23:26:06] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: sorry, between ... and ...
[23:26:08] <markmentovai> right, ok
[23:26:24] <markmentovai> i'll sync to 52764 locally and see what the generated projects look like
[23:26:36] <scarybeasts> pants. have a 3pm in crittenden. bbiab
[23:27:06] <bryner> what do folks use to apply patches on windows?  cygwin patch?
[23:27:17] <thakis> estade: you're now aware of http://codereview.chromium.org/2877008/show
[23:27:21] <phajdan-jr> bryner: yeah. Watch out for weird Windows permission problems.
[23:27:25] <thakis> (may or may not be related to the bug you just started)
[23:27:38] <bryner> phajdan-jr: that was my next question :-)  cygwin seems to set the files that it touches so that they aren't readable afterwards
[23:27:48] <estade> thakis: nope
[23:27:53] <bryner> is there a way to avoid that or do i just have to fix them by hand?
[23:28:02] <estade> thakis: thanks for the tip though
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[23:28:12] <phajdan-jr> bryner: I used to "solve it" by using FAT, but it was on a private machine.
[23:28:20] <pkasting> Does anyone know what "svn: Unrecognized line ending style" when trying to run "svn up" in a directory means?
[23:28:29] <pkasting> The status of the directory shows as "!"
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[23:29:42] <bryner> phajdan-jr: ok
[23:29:51] <bryner> not really an option for me :-(
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[23:30:48] <cpu> bryner: try tortoise
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[23:32:27] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: icu.xcodeproj is identical when generated from r52763 and r52764.
[23:32:51] <bryner> cpu: ok, i'll give it a shot
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[23:33:57] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: should I try a clobber trybot build?
[23:34:26] <markmentovai> gimme a sec, i'm poking a little more locally.
[23:34:32] <markmentovai> i doubt a clobber would have an effect.
[23:35:05] * phajdan-jr usually tries clobber when the issue looks too weird to really happen. Bots are not 100% sane.
[23:35:17] <markmentovai> i usually just "try again" when it looks too weird...
[23:35:27] <markmentovai> if you want to give it a shot, go ahead, i'm still examining locally.
[23:35:30] <thakis> nsylvain: ping
[23:35:31] <phajdan-jr> I did that. Both try jobs fail, on Mac only.
[23:35:35] <markmentovai> heh
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[23:36:22] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: i bet i know what it is
[23:36:55] <markmentovai> phajdan-jr: the nesting level has changed how many +s are needed at two of the TODO(mark)s in that file
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[23:37:11] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: that was my bet too. Should I try adding one more "+"?
[23:37:13] <stoyan> bryner: I'm using patch.exe (google for UnixUtils). You have to use --binary (new lines mess up). On Vista+ - change the group policy to skip heiristics of "looks like installation program ask for elevation".
[23:37:18] <markmentovai> i suggest trying another +
[23:37:33] <phajdan-jr> markmentovai: thanks for the analysis. Can I TBR that change to you?
[23:37:47] <markmentovai> tbr it to me but of course run the deps roll through the trybots again
[23:38:00] <phajdan-jr> oh yeah, that's for sure. I don't want to set the tree on fire.
[23:38:43] <markmentovai> jochen__: tree needs whitespace.
[23:40:13] <markmentovai> stoyan: is one of the heuristics ?is the executable named patch.exe??
[23:40:40] <jochen__> markmentovai: ok
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[23:41:55] <thakis> andybons: did you make the icon on the stop button larger?
[23:42:16] <thakis> looks way too large to me, and i never noticed before
[23:42:56] <jochen__> done.
[23:43:02] <markmentovai> danke
[23:44:37] <thakis> dunk-ah
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[23:54:12] <thakis> rsesek: the animation still doesn't show up with me, even with the image in place
[23:55:13] <rsesek> thakis: hmmmm
[23:55:19] <rsesek> thakis: does the download animation work?
[23:55:30] * thakis downloads macvim
[23:55:40] <thakis> yes
[23:55:44] <rsesek> weird
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[23:56:02] <rsesek> are you sure the image is there? (I should probably put a DCHECK in....)
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[23:56:22] <thakis> $ ls chrome/app/theme/popup_window_animation.pdf
[23:56:22] <thakis> chrome/app/theme/popup_window_animation.pdf
[23:56:31] <thakis> looks fine if i type "open" instead of "ls"
[23:56:41] <rsesek> thakis: are you sure it's int he bundle?
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[23:57:09] <thakis> $ ls xcodebuild/Debug/Chromium.app/Contents/Versions/6.0.472.0/Chromium\ Framework.framework/Resources/popup_window_animation.pdf
[23:57:10] <thakis> xcodebuild/Debug/Chromium.app/Contents/Versions/6.0.472.0/Chromium Framework.framework/Resources/popup_window_animation.pdf
[23:57:18] <rsesek> damnit
[23:57:31] <rsesek> 10.5?
[23:57:35] <thakis> yes
[23:57:35] <rsesek> I hate that oS
[23:57:42] <thakis> it hates you too
[23:58:17] <jochen__> thakis, could you send me your old make the cookies tree model live CL sometime?
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