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[00:00:37] <jshin> phajdan-jr: yup (sorry forgot to answer that question)
[00:01:00] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by tony at chromium dot org (:tony^work): tree is closed - (layout tests -> ojan, browser_tests -> tony, check_perms -> evmar, ui newhomepage test -> ?)
[00:01:19] <Nola> I dont elephants, I dont want psychedelic trip-out patterns, I dont want gumballs, I dont want a 50's gas station, I do not want the Lunar Lander. I dont want dragons.
[00:01:26] <jshin> land it first in thrid_party/icu and note the revision. then, update DEPS with that revision
[00:02:00] <Nola> I want a fucking Chrome that looks like MY Os
[00:02:02] <phajdan-jr> jshin: great, thanks
[00:02:14] <Nola> https://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/cy/themes/theme_at_goodsmileco.html
[00:02:25] <selckin> ban the professional troll allready
[00:02:30] <jshin> phajdan-jr: you're welcome :-)
[00:02:39] <Nola> No I am making a valid point
[00:02:57] <Nola> the main thing is chrome cant be taken seriously on my box
[00:03:01] <Nola> its not a "real browser"
[00:03:04] <Nola> its a kiddy thing only
[00:03:06] <rohitrao> then please stop using it
[00:03:19] <Nola> why cant it do simple rendering of the window
[00:03:26] <Nola> ?
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[00:03:52] <tfarina> kick it
[00:03:56] <dmaclach> Nola: please file a bug here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list
[00:04:24] <dumi> looks like WorkerTest.SyncDBTests that i added are timing out on vista. they pass on my vista dev machine though. any way to figure out why the buildbots are not happy with them?
[00:04:32] <Nola> i filed this bug like 5 times
[00:04:44] <Nola> i dont understand what the "problem" is
[00:04:52] <Nola> why is this even an issue
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[00:05:02] *** Nola was kicked by evmar (you were told politely this is not the place to talk about it.)
[00:05:18] <markmentovai> thanks, i was trying to figure out how to get chanserv to do it
[00:05:29] <rohitrao> haha
[00:05:33] <evmar> yeah, took me a sec too.  i think i did the one where they're unbanned in 5 minutes too
[00:05:34] <eglaysher> This is why everyone should just have @.
[00:05:48] <evmar> i would prefer to err on the side of being too polite in these circumstances
[00:06:06] <markmentovai> at the f-bomb, it had gotten to the point where it was out of hand
[00:06:18] <markmentovai> i usually prefer to let them talk themselves out too, but it was starting to get disruptive
[00:06:50] <jamesr> i kind of want to know who says Os
[00:07:02] <rohitrao> I think he meant cheerios
[00:07:09] <eglaysher> Well, as you know, there are multiple Os in the world.
[00:07:18] <eglaysher> So it's obviously its own plural.
[00:07:24] <jamesr> maybe he really wants to optimize for size
[00:07:26] <sbyer> I haven't found a cheerios theme yet...
[00:07:30] <markmentovai> there's probably a point here. we do blend into various OSes pretty well, but i haven?t seen us running on an O yet
[00:08:01] <markmentovai> crazy ports these days!
[00:08:10] <evmar> Os/2
[00:08:38] <jamesr> iPhone Os
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[00:10:12] <dumi> i'm reverting my change, should fix ui_tests
[00:10:52] <markmentovai> ok, kids, have a nice weekend
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[00:11:04] <rohitrao> haha
[00:11:08] <rohitrao> well played
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[00:14:19] <phajdan-jr> michaeln: ping
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[00:15:48] <oshima> phajdan-jr: i'm gettnig compilation error (from TOT) at
[00:15:52] <oshima> chrome/browser/dom_ui/filebrowse_ui.cc:99: error: expected class-name before ?{? token
[00:15:53] <oshima> chrome/browser/dom_ui/filebrowse_ui.cc: In member function ?void FilebrowseHandler::HandlePauseToggleDownload(const Value*)?:
[00:15:53] <oshima> ...
[00:16:14] <oshima> phajdan-jr: i'm wondering if this has something to do with r52749
[00:16:18] <phajdan-jr> oshima: what configuration? linux/chromeos?
[00:16:26] <phajdan-jr> oshima: yeah, sounds like most probably me
[00:16:32] <oshima> phajdan-jr: chromeos
[00:16:45] <phajdan-jr> oshima: so this file is only compiled on chromeos?
[00:16:59] <oshima> i'm not familiar with this file. let me see...
[00:16:59] <tfarina> yes
[00:17:06] <oshima> ok, thanks.
[00:17:32] <phajdan-jr> oshima: uh, sorry. Fixing right now.
[00:17:48] <oshima> we need more trybots!
[00:17:50] <phajdan-jr> oshima: any other errors you're getting?
[00:18:03] <phajdan-jr> oshima: it'd be cool to run chromeos trybot on all changes
[00:18:10] <tfarina> at least one more for win
[00:18:16] <oshima> i'll send you email
[00:18:27] <tfarina> it is taking much more time than mac/linux.
[00:19:11] <oshima> phajdan-jr: yes, that's what we want, but we don't have enough machines yet.
[00:19:35] <oshima> I'll ping nsylvain again.
[00:20:38] <oshima> phajdan-jr: sent
[00:21:48] <phajdan-jr> oshima: should be fixed in my very latest commit, thanks for spotting the error
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[00:23:29] <phajdan-jr> oshima: oh, but there seems to be an earlier compile error on ChromeOS bot that has masked the one I introduced
[00:23:55] <evmar> what does check_perms mean
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[00:25:46] <phajdan-jr> check deps failed on some PPAPI change!
[00:26:06] <phajdan-jr> jam2: could PPAPI check_deps failure be your change?
[00:26:26] <satish_> fishd: thanks for the quick review.. replied with some answers and questions :)
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[00:28:12] <tony^work> hmm, my commit description didn't include the subject from reitveld
[00:28:15] <tony^work> I guess it never does
[00:28:33] <phajdan-jr> tony^work: yes, I think it only takes the body
[00:28:39] <eglaysher> evmar: check_perms is a script that makes sure that all source files are 0644 because windows git often screws up and +xs files.
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[00:33:17] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by tony at chromium dot org (:tony^work): tree is closed - (layout tests -> ojan, browser_tests/ui_tests -> going green, check_perms -> evmar)
[00:34:34] <tony^work> jam2: check deps failure is you
[00:35:07] <tony^work> can we just add ppapi to webkit/glue/plugins?
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[00:36:19] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by tony at chromium dot org (:tony^work): tree is closed - (layout tests -> ojan, browser_tests/ui_tests -> going green, check_perms -> evmar, check_deps -> jam)
[00:38:13] <awong> tony^work: the mistake is that the path should be fully qualified.
[00:38:45] <awong> tony^work: third_party/ppapi/c/pp_var.h not ppapi/c/pp_var.h
[00:40:20] <eglaysher> I am going to assume chrome arm is me (or at minimum a mid air collision). Fix forthcoming.
[00:40:43] <tony^work> awong: I'm ok with fixing that way too :)
[00:41:34] <awong> tony^work: did you find jam?
[00:41:48] <tony^work> awong: no, I IM'ed him too
[00:41:49] <tony^work> no response
[00:41:53] <awong> ok
[00:41:55] <awong> I'll commit the change.
[00:42:04] <tony^work> SGTM, rs=me
[00:42:05] <awong> might break him...but he broke us first!
[00:43:20] <jam2> sorry guys, just saw this.  yes please add that dependency
[00:43:37] <awong> jam2: should it be a check_deps?  I would have expected third_party/ prefix to be more correct.
[00:43:44] <jam2> i can do it too of course, sounds like you got it though
[00:43:53] <jam2> awong do you have the codereview url?
[00:44:01] <awong> http://codereview.chromium.org/3019006
[00:44:20] <jam2> oh yes, that's correct
[00:44:25] <jam2> doh, dont know why it worked for me
[00:44:27] <awong> cool. committing.
[00:44:30] <jam2> thanks
[00:44:36] <awong> gyp include leakage in the compile flag.
[00:44:48] <awong> since ppapi adds "." into the -Is.
[00:45:02] <jam2> got it
[00:45:21] <jam2> sorry for the hassle
[00:45:31] <jam2> the trybots wouldnt patch the grd changes so i had to land blind
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[00:50:02] <evmar> why does ppapi add "."
[00:50:03] <evmar> ?
[00:50:04] <evmar> that seems wrong
[00:50:33] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by ojan at chromium dot org: tree is closed - (layout tests -> going green, browser_tests/ui_tests -> going green, check_perms -> evmar, check_deps -> jam)
[00:51:34] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by evan at chromium dot org (:evmar): tree is closed - (layout tests -> going green, browser_tests/ui_tests -> going green, check_perms -> going green, check_deps -> jam)
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[00:54:40] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by tony at chromium dot org (:tony^work): tree is closed - (all slowly going green)
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[00:58:08] <leiz> evmar: thx for fixing check_perms.py
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[01:01:40] <leiz> tfarina: err, what happened to the description in r52752?
[01:02:50] <jochen__> that is what happens if you git cl dcommit --tbr and don't know what it does :)
[01:03:21] <leiz> hrm, ok
[01:03:27] <davidben> Perhaps git cl dcommit should toss the commit message in $EDITOR or something.
[01:03:37] <tfarina> jochen__: exactly :(
[01:03:41] <tfarina> leiz: ^^
[01:03:57] <tfarina> davidben: that would be great!
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[01:04:11] <jochen__> any sheriff around?
[01:04:13] <evmar> i didn't realize it lost the commit message
[01:04:18] <evmar> that seems inconvenient
[01:04:31] <evmar> jochen__: isn't it a bit late to be up/
[01:04:31] <tfarina> very much.
[01:04:45] <jochen__> no
[01:04:51] <jochen__> it's meanwhile a bit early to be up
[01:05:08] <leiz> but hey, it's saturday
[01:05:11] <jochen__> now can i commit my fix for the CollectedCookiesTest.* that's failing on Vista(dbg) all night long?
[01:05:30] <rsesek> thakis: ping
[01:05:38] <thakis> rsesek: pong
[01:05:50] <rsesek> thakis: it should work. all the sample code and docs I've read say it should
[01:06:03] <jochen__> mmoss: dmaclach ping
[01:06:08] <tfarina> leiz: should I fix the message somehow? (I don't if it's possible though).
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[01:06:14] <thakis> rsesek: "it" being?
[01:06:22] <tfarina> don't know*
[01:06:22] <jochen__> tfarina: you can revert and recommit
[01:06:22] <rsesek> thakis: the layer.bounds = newBounds;
[01:06:23] <leiz> tfarina: it's possible, but waaay too much hassle
[01:06:40] <thakis> rsesek: but it doesn't?
[01:06:48] <rsesek> thakis: nope. it makes the animations not work at all
[01:06:50] <rsesek> they just disappear
[01:06:55] <leiz> sheriffs: google chrome mac on the official tree has been red for 150 builds, are we just ignoring it?
[01:07:02] <thakis> rsesek: did you add the bounds animation for key @"bounds"?
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[01:07:25] <rsesek> thakis: tried that and with the animation group. I think the animation group is more correct because we want these three animations to occur simultaneously
[01:07:31] <dmaclach> jochen__: here
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[01:07:58] <thakis> rsesek: true, but the group can be set only for one key, and we need to override the implicit animations for both @"bounds" and @"position"
[01:08:08] <dmaclach> jochen__: go ahead
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[01:08:11] <jochen__> ok
[01:08:31] <thakis> rsesek: search http://codereview.chromium.org/2976008/patch/30001/31010 for @"bounds"
[01:08:34] <thakis> that seems to work
[01:08:43] <jochen__> done
[01:09:22] <rsesek> thakis: see this is the part about the group that confuses me. we seem to be overriding the implicit animations for position and opacity, but I'm not able to with bounds
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[01:09:43] <mmoss> jochen__: pong
[01:10:05] <jochen__> already got green light and committed
[01:10:18] <dmaclach> jrg: ping
[01:10:50] <rsesek> thakis: there's definitely a visual difference if I excluded [layer setOpacity:newOpacity] and just transform the presentational layer. so it seems like the keyPath from the BasicAnimation is used in the group to override the implicit animations done to the model. but for some reason bounds doesn't get that
[01:10:50] <jrg> dmaclach: pong
[01:10:57] <thakis> rsesek: session 424 from the wwdc10 sessions ("Core Animation in practice, part 1") discusses this to some detail
[01:11:05] <dmaclach> jrg: you're doing the 10.6 move with mento right?
[01:11:13] <rsesek> thakis: I'll check it out
[01:11:19] <cpu> sheriffs: when can I land http://codereview.chromium.org/2843056/show (memory leak fix in UT) ?
[01:11:24] <jrg> dmaclach: i am doing little heavy lifting... did you have a specific question?
[01:11:47] <thakis> rsesek: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/qa/qa2008/qa1620.html as well, tho it doesn't discuss the "animate both" case iirc
[01:11:55] <thakis> (also linked from the code i linked to above)
[01:12:05] <rsesek> thakis: yea read that. the animation group is a key piece of this though
[01:12:11] <dmaclach> jrg: if we knew about the GenerateDSym file problem on the google chrome mac official tree, and if the 10.6 move was to help it
[01:12:26] <jrg> dmaclach: yes.  bev did the switch, and laforge confirmed it worked.
[01:12:32] <thakis> rsesek: why?
[01:12:50] <rsesek> thakis: because we want the opacity, position, and bounds to be all timed together
[01:13:05] <thakis> rsesek: it's kinda timed together without the group too :-P
[01:13:15] <jrg> dmaclach: is it happening on other trees?
[01:13:16] <rsesek> thakis: removing the group and just animating individually results in something very ugly
[01:13:19] <jrg> other bots?
[01:13:37] <dmaclach> no.. just seeing it on the Google Chrome Mac official tree AFAIK
[01:13:45] <thakis> rsesek: huh. surprising
[01:14:12] <rsesek> thakis: yes. I wonder if twiddling can get around the group because I bet if we didn't use the group the [layer setBounds:] would work
[01:14:17] <thakis> rsesek: another thing you could try is `[CATransaction setValue:(id)kCFBooleanTrue forKey:kCATransactionDisableActio
[01:14:18] <thakis>      ns];`
[01:14:20] <jrg> dmaclach: fortunately we have 2 official builders.  One (used for dev channel) was switched.  And was successful.  (That was in last few days).
[01:14:44] <thakis> rsesek: (in a CATransaction begin/commit block, in which you set the bounds)
[01:14:52] <thakis> that should suppress the implicit animation too
[01:14:53] <jrg> dmaclach: I think we'll likely switch the other.  Need to be careful to avoid causing problems with releases in flight tho.
[01:15:00] <rsesek> thakis: thanks. will try
[01:15:23] <dmaclach> jrg: ok, so for now we should ignore the redness on the Google Chrome Mac official build?
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[01:15:57] <jrg> dmaclach: you ignore.  I will follow up with laforge personally today to confirm plans; if yes, will ask bev to switch, and cc you.  SGTY?
[01:16:10] <thakis> rsesek: or you can implement actionForLayer:forKey: in your delegate and return nil for key @"bounds" i believe
[01:16:13] <dmaclach> jrg: SGTM
[01:16:20] <thakis> with some NSLogs that might give you a better idea at least
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[01:17:49] <rohitrao> thakis, rsesek: I think I was trying to suggest that earlier.  Try throwing some logging into actionForLayer and see what comes out
[01:18:19] <rohitrao> at the very least we'll get a sense of what properties CA is trying to animation
[01:18:27] <rohitrao> s/tion/te/
[01:18:47] <rsesek> doing that now
[01:19:23] <jamesr> jrg: are you planning to move the layout testers to 10.6?
[01:19:33] <jamesr> that is the bots that run webkit tests?
[01:19:49] <mmoss> cpu: go ahead
[01:20:10] <jrg> jamesr: have no plans at this time specifically.  Eventually we want all bots that compile (e.g. all except "run test bots") to be on 10.6.
[01:20:34] <jrg> jamesr: to be clear, I am not the one doing heavy lifting.  I am just the warm body in MTV to blame.
[01:20:53] <jamesr> jrg: who's in charge of moving them over?
[01:20:57] <sbyer> dmaclach: can I land a small chromeos only change? http://codereview.chromium.org/2906010/show
[01:21:14] <jrg> jamesr: mark (mentovai), bev
[01:21:29] <jamesr> cool. thanks jrg
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[01:22:45] <dmaclach> sbyer: can you wait 2 minutes to see if the linux builder (Cros) goes green?
[01:22:57] <sbyer> dmaclach: OK
[01:23:03] <dmaclach> sbyer: thx
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[01:23:50] <motownavi> sbyer: the desc of your CL is wrong; can you update it before landing?
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[01:25:21] <sbyer> motownavi: done
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[01:26:10] <motownavi> cool thx
[01:26:46] <sbyer> motownavi: np, should have fixed it when the CL got simplified
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[01:27:26] <motownavi> I've checked in wrong CL comments and smacked my head when realizing it. trying to prevent others' pain
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[01:29:31] <dmaclach> sbyer: go ahead when ready
[01:29:36] <sbyer> dmaclach: ok, thanks
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[01:31:29] <sbyer> dmaclach: hah, no --force flag for git cl dcommit
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[01:32:32] <jamesr> sbyer: -f
[01:32:58] <sbyer> jamesr: thanks!
[01:33:03] <xji_> mac chromium build issue: have following error "ld: in /export/chromium/src/xcodebuild/Debug/libwebcore.a, can't map file, errno=12" when build "chromium framework", anyone know what might be wrong? (in os x 10.5)
[01:33:26] <jamesr> xji_: sounds like you're out of address space
[01:33:41] <motownavi> time for 10.6 :)
[01:35:20] <xji_> jamesr, motownavi: ok. let me try 10.6 then
[01:35:58] <estade> csilv: http://codereview.chromium.org/3018006/show
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[01:42:34] <dmaclach> any troopers around?
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[01:44:36] <sbyer> sheriffs: going afk for commute home, will check back in 20 mins.
[01:45:01] <dmaclach> thanks sbyer
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[01:45:32] <jhawkins> dmaclach: committed a cl that marks a flaky test as...flaky
[01:45:51] <jhawkins> it's been failing a lot, but not consistently
[01:47:19] <dmaclach> jhawkins: since it's Friday Afternoon I won't beat you for bypassing the "closed" sign ;-)
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[01:50:19] <estade> dmaclach: I have a build fix: http://codereview.chromium.org/3018006/show
[01:50:21] <estade> ok to commit?
[01:50:25] <jamesr> my motto is "It's always Friday Afternoon somewhere!"
[01:50:39] <dmaclach> estade: what does it fix?
[01:51:01] <estade> grit fails for some users
[01:51:20] <dmaclach> estade: go ahead
[01:51:22] <tony^work> it's a small change, should be safe.  I support it :)
[01:51:33] <estade> thank you
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[01:57:24] <jibot> timsteele is a Chromium Googler.
[02:00:02] <dmaclach> can somebody take a look at TestDoubleDisplay on Vista Tests Dbg3
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[02:01:10] <awong> evmar: I think ppapi adds -I.. (not . actually) is so that internally, ppapi files can reference themselves via "ppapi/*".  You probably shoudl ask brettw or people, but my guess was that it was to keep non-chromium people sane when they linked against ppapi.
[02:01:38] <mmoss> dmaclach: I think TestDoubleDisplay was jochen__, let me check again
[02:02:02] <mmoss> dmaclach: oh, nope, I was thinking of something different
[02:03:28] <dmaclach> jhawkins: webkit linux debug 1? Flake
[02:03:29] <dmaclach> ?
[02:04:12] <mmoss> dmaclach: err, actually, yes, it was, started at r52655
[02:04:24] <mmoss> jochen__: you still working on that fix?
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[02:09:55] <cpu> mmoss: the offer still valid?
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[02:11:04] <mmoss> cpu: go ahead
[02:13:11] <cpu> mmoss: done thanks
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[02:16:07] <ananta> any sheriffs around?
[02:16:43] <mmoss> ananta: yes
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[02:20:53] <mmoss> ananta: one moment, I may open
[02:20:54] <rvargas> mmoss: can I land http://codereview.chromium.org/3016006/show ?. It reduces flakiness on the trybots.
[02:21:03] <gavinp`> oh wow, an open tree
[02:21:15] <ananta> mmoss: thanks
[02:21:33] <gavinp`> what's the lkgr going to be?
[02:22:31] <estade> not open...
[02:22:42] <estade>  /reads scrollback
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[02:25:40] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mmoss at chromium dot org: tree is open - (all slowly going green)
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[02:35:42] <jam2> any skia experts here?
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[02:36:21] <jam2> or anyone who knows if there are any helper functions to blit from one SkBitmap toa nother (different sizes)
[02:37:49] <pkasting> I believe there are but you'd do better asking senorblanco or brettw or someone
[02:38:34] <jam2> yeah i just dont see them around :)
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[02:39:31] <thakis_> jam2: create a SkCanvas at the desired size, drawBitmapRect on it, give the pixels to a new SkBitmap
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[02:39:44] <thakis_> `git gs drawBitmapRect` will probably find the helper function if it exisits
[02:40:32] <jam2> thakis_ thanks i'll search for that
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[02:41:11] <thakis_> doesn't look too promising :-/
[02:42:10] <thakis_> SkBitmapOperations::CreateSuperimposedBitmap() kinda looks like the new helper function needs to look (in gfx/skbitmap_operations.cc)
[02:47:54] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mmoss at chromium dot org: tree is open
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[02:56:18] <mmoss> did someone take down xp perf on purpose?
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[02:58:42] <mmoss> no sheriffs, good night
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[02:59:05] <gavinp`> there are no sherriffs this weekend?
[02:59:08] <gavinp`> oh boy monday is gonnga be fun
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[02:59:27] <mmoss> gavinp`: are there ever weekend sheriffs?
[02:59:33] <evmar> i hope not
[02:59:37] <gavinp`> no, there are not
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[03:00:41] <gavinp`> (and i'm not volunteering)
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[03:00:51] <gavinp`> but i am worried that we'll have some troubles come monday.
[03:02:01] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mmoss at chromium dot org: Tree is open - No sheriffs. Be responsible.
[03:02:12] <mmoss> gavinp`: maybe that will help :)
[03:02:28] <gavinp`> it's much, much better than naught.  thank you for your work on a lousy day!
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[03:03:09] <tfarina> is there a cross platform function for strstr?
[03:03:13] <awong> evmar: whaddup with the ops?  Your @ messes with my eyes...
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[03:03:28] <evmar> kicked someone earlier
[03:03:33] <awong> ah
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[03:17:24] <tfarina> wow the browser_tests is taking much time to run :(
[03:17:44] <tfarina> about 20 minutes now.
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[03:28:18] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "unit_tests" on "Vista Tests (dbg)(1)" from 52789: aa at chromium dot org, ananta at chromium dot org (:iyengar), arv at chromium dot org, estade at chromium dot org, georgey at chromium dot org, levin at chromium dot org (:dave_levin), mmoss at google dot com, rsleevi at chromium dot org, rvargas at google dot com, sargrass at google dot com, vandebo at chromium dot org)
[03:29:58] <estade> looks like georgey
[03:30:51] <tony^work> oh, real failure?
[03:30:53] <rsleevi> WebKit/WebCore/dom/OverflowEvent.idl:26
[03:31:07] <estade> some autofill test failed; he made an autofill commit
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[03:31:30] * tony^work nods
[03:31:36] <gavinp`> I am around, and Gmail will reach me
[03:31:46] <gavinp`> but if you need me in a bug hurry: +1 617 500 7434
[03:32:20] <estade> tony^work: although he did also make a grd change, so maybe it's just that
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[03:32:55] <tony^work> it has strings in the title
[03:32:59] <tony^work> and it's only failing on win
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[03:34:23] <estade> tony^work: http://codereview.chromium.org/3018007/show
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[03:34:37] <trungl> wow, now the whole world can call gavinp`
[03:34:42] <tony^work> estade: LG
[03:35:27] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by estade at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (grd change --- should be cycling green)
[03:35:34] <gavinp`> trung, indeed.  There's also this awesome book...
[03:37:45] <oshima> hi, is anyone looking at chromeos compilation error?
[03:38:05] <csilv> oshima, i have a fix for that coming
[03:38:26] <oshima> csilv: thanks!
[03:40:20] <trungl> gavinp`: yeah, but they may not know that that's the gavinp` who works on chromium
[03:40:40] <jamesr>  i wanna know more about this book
[03:40:59] <trungl> gavinp` 's number is in the bible 'cause he's that awesome
[03:41:02] <trungl> or is that the koran?
[03:43:03] <rohitrao> trungl!
[03:43:11] <trungl> rohitrao!
[03:43:14] <rohitrao> your bot was mean to me
[03:43:17] 
[03:43:21] <trungl> rohitrao: why?
[03:43:23] <csilv> oshima: chromeos fix landed, 52795
[03:43:25] <trungl> rohitrao: what did it do?
[03:43:28] <rohitrao> i said hello
[03:43:33] <rohitrao> and it just yelled at me
[03:43:39] <rohitrao> trungl-bot: hello!
[03:43:39] <trungl-bot> rohitrao: Error: "hello!" is not a valid command.
[03:43:41] <rohitrao> see!
[03:43:51] * trungl should teach it some manners.
[03:44:31] <trungl> trungl-bot: bad
[03:44:31] <trungl-bot> trungl: Error: "bad" is not a valid command.
[03:44:39] <trungl> that didn't work
[03:44:49] <rohitrao> hah
[03:44:51] * trungl spanks trungl-bot.
[03:45:13] <trungl> maybe social services will take trungl-bot away from me.
[03:47:06] <tfarina> hehe that trungl-bot is pretty fun :)
[03:47:32] <jamesr> trungl-bot: escap"
[03:47:33] <trungl-bot> jamesr: Error: "escap"" is not a valid command.
[03:48:08] <oshima> csilv: thanks
[03:49:05] <trungl> maybe trungl-bot should respond in valid python
[03:50:10] <trungl> maybe that's not obscure enough
[03:50:15] <trungl> how about in valid teco commands?
[03:53:11] * trungl learns that teco is still available on OpenVMS.
[03:54:26] <tfarina> is there any document about how the DOMUI works?
[03:55:03] <gavinp`> trung, it's extremely useful if you need to edit, or correct, tape.
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[04:02:06] <tfarina> mmoss: permission to land http://codereview.chromium.org/3020010/show?
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[04:11:02] <rohitrao> thakis: I've been playing with backing stores a bit more, and I think it is possible to draw into a CALayer
[04:11:37] <rohitrao> when we get a paint call, we end up creating a CGImageRef, which we might be able to assign to the layer
[04:12:12] <rohitrao> or we draw the image into a CGContext, which we can do just as easily into the CALayer's CGContext
[04:12:18] <rohitrao> how this helps, I'm not sure yet :)
[04:20:52] <jamesr> rohitrao: this for web content or browser UI?
[04:21:00] <rohitrao> web content
[04:21:09] <jamesr> have you looked at the safari compositor?
[04:21:12] <jamesr> it renders into CALayers
[04:21:19] <jamesr> and it's all in the webkit repo
[04:21:51] <rohitrao> nope, I'll take a look at that
[04:22:11] <rohitrao> I have this possibly impossible master plan of replacing the CGLayer in our backing store with a CALayer
[04:22:35] <jamesr> we have accelerated compositing working in chrome mac already
[04:22:43] <jamesr> and i would think that's using CALayers
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[04:22:57] <rohitrao> hm
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[04:23:15] <jamesr> but i dunno
[04:23:18] <rohitrao> does that mean we're going to get rid of all the TransportDIB stuff and render directly into a layer?
[04:23:27] <jamesr> in some circumstances
[04:23:32] <jamesr> H/W compositing is not always on
[04:24:05] <jamesr> but when it's on then yeah, everything gets rendered into CALayers which go to screen
[04:24:12] <jamesr> no need to ship pixels to the browser process
[04:24:17] <rohitrao> ah, cool
[04:24:21] <rohitrao> we should do that all the time ;)
[04:24:49] <jamesr> it's more expensive to start up
[04:25:15] <rohitrao> yeah, the hardware compositing bit is probably overkill a lot of the time
[04:25:18] <jamesr> like if we did it for the NTP then we'd have to bring up all the GPU stuff before the user saw anything
[04:25:30] <jamesr> then we'd be slow as balls to render initially just like safari 4/5
[04:25:39] <rohitrao> but getting rid of all the intermediate bit copying would be so nice
[04:25:43] <jamesr> oh yeah
[04:25:49] <rohitrao> renderer -> transportdib -> cglayer -> nsview
[04:25:53] <jamesr> just gotta figure out how to initialize it all super fast
[04:26:00] <jamesr> and we have to handle people that put stuff at offset -1000000
[04:26:17] <jamesr> but yeah
[04:26:22] <jamesr> draw path is totally different with H/W compositing
[04:26:36] <jamesr> it's renderer -> buncha GL commands -> gpu process -> display
[04:26:58] <rohitrao> how are we getting the layer across to the browser?
[04:27:02] <jamesr> it doesn't
[04:27:03] <rohitrao> or do we not need to do that somehow?
[04:27:12] <jamesr> the GPU process just renders
[04:27:25] <jamesr> it takes over the view (no idea how that works in OS X)
[04:27:45] <rohitrao> crazy
[04:27:52] <rohitrao> I may ask you more questions when I come visit in august :)
[04:28:00] <jamesr> the person you wanna see is vangelis
[04:28:03] <jamesr> he's on vacation now
[04:28:12] <jamesr> but he knows the most about the h/w compositing path
[04:28:17] <jamesr> i think kbr hooked it up for OS X
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[04:28:37] <rohitrao> I know pretty much nothing about gpu stuff
[04:28:40] <rohitrao> but i would like to
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[04:32:59] <trungl> rohitrao!
[04:33:05] <rohitrao> hello
[04:33:20] <trungl> rohitrao: you're like a bot
[04:33:26] <trungl> rohitrao: you always respond with "hello"
[04:33:26] <rohitrao> apparently we're already doing gpu compositing, so maybe none of this layer stuff is needed
[04:33:49] <trungl> rohitrao: what do you mean "we're already doing ..."?
[04:34:03] <rohitrao> people in mtv are working on it?
[04:34:09] <rohitrao> i should learn about this gpu thing
[04:34:16] <trungl> oh that
[04:34:23] <trungl> that may be a complicated story
[04:34:30] * trungl has no idea what's going on
[04:34:35] <rohitrao> I almost had the backingstore painting directly into a calayer :P
[04:35:04] <trungl> rohitrao: I believe eventually we'll want webkit doing gpu compositing on its own
[04:35:26] <rohitrao> yeah, although it sounded like we won't always do that
[04:35:27] <trungl> what this means for mac I don't know
[04:35:41] <rohitrao> sometimes we'll stick with doing it all in software
[04:36:11] <rohitrao> and I think for those cases we'll still need to do the transportdib -> cglayer -> rwhvcocoa fun
[04:36:42] <trungl> quite possibly?
[04:36:47] <trungl> probably
[04:37:01] <trungl> rohitrao: weren't you going to visit rsesek sometime
[04:37:02] <trungl> ?
[04:37:06] <rohitrao> next week
[04:37:08] <trungl> (on an unrelated note)
[04:37:10] <trungl> ah, I see
[04:37:25] <rohitrao> you coming? :P
[04:37:43] <trungl> rohitrao: I have exciting meetings on wednesday
[04:37:49] <rohitrao> sad
[04:37:59] <trungl> rohitrao: and probably meetings leading up to those meetings
[04:38:05] <rohitrao> heh
[04:38:07] <trungl> and the usual monday meetings
[04:38:10] <trungl> noooooooooooooooo
[04:38:14] <rohitrao> I'll be in reston for those
[04:38:24] <trungl> shaping up to be a very productive week
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[04:44:06] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by estade at chromium dot org: Tree is open
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[05:05:21] <rsleevi> any sheriffs around?
[05:06:25] <tfarina> mmoss, dmaclach ^^
[05:07:24] <dmaclach> rsleevi we're kind of off duty. What's up?
[05:07:50] <rsleevi> <-- broke the build, trying to find out how to revert without breaking it more. Looks like different gtest
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[05:09:20] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Webkit Builder (dbg)" from 52799: rsleevi at chromium dot org)
[05:09:40] <dmaclach> rsleevi you want your change reverted?
[05:09:51] <rsleevi> dmaclach: Yeah, trying to find info on how to do that
[05:10:04] <dmaclach> rsleevi: http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/how-tos/drover
[05:11:08] <dmaclach> rsleevi: does that give you enough help?
[05:11:37] <rsleevi> dmaclach: Yes, thanks. Reverting now.
[05:11:55] <dmaclach> rsleevi: cool
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[05:17:02] <rsleevi> I'm guessing the 10.5 bots and 10.6 bots run different versions of gcc?  The CL compiled fine for 10.6, only 10.5 horked. Looking at the try-server page, I don't see any specific boxes indicating 10.5-ness, just wondering where to send any tries for this specific problem
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[05:17:59] <tfarina> rsleevi: could you update the tree status to reflect the revert?
[05:20:18] <rsleevi> tfarina: Done. Still learning the ropes here :)
[05:20:27] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by rsleevi at chromium dot org: Tree is open
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[05:43:46] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Chromium Mac" from 52799: rsleevi at chromium dot org, shess at chromium dot org, tfarina at chromium dot org)
[05:45:40] <rsleevi> hrm, hopefully it will stay open this time. 10.5 compilers = no love
[05:45:47] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by rsleevi at chromium dot org: Tree is open
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[06:14:20] <tfarina> hum committing a .grd change
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[06:14:42] <shess_> tfarina: am glad I got my two CLs checked in, then :-).
[06:14:56] <tfarina> shess_: should I close the tree?
[06:15:19] <shess_> tfarina: I don't know the protocol any longer.  It's friday evening, though, so I doubt doing it wrong will harm much.
[06:16:13] <tfarina> estade: ^^
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[06:17:21] <tfarina> shess_: I will watch the tree and see. Hope it will not break the tree and the others.
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[06:25:09] <tfarina> shess_: you wrote most of the safe_browsing no? I'm wondering why we are using sqlite_utils.h there and not app/sql/* api instead.
[06:27:08] <shess_> tfarina: did not write most of safe-browsing :-).  I think app/sql/* came later on in development.  I was on a crusade to rid safe-browsing of sqlite code, but got bogged down elsewhere.  I fully intend to sally forth again a bit after mstone-6 is branched.
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[06:27:25] <shess_> [I thought that about mstone-5, come to think of it.]
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[06:29:12] <tfarina> shess_: you intent to get rid of the sqlite code from safe-browsing or using the app/sql api?
[06:30:07] <shess_> tfarina: there's an implementation of flat-file storage in there already, I just need to land the changes to wire it in.  The way safe-browsing deals with persistent storage isn't really improved by sqlite, because it's all opaque hashes.
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[06:32:17] <tfarina> shess_: I see, you plan to move to this flat-file instead of sqlite. Is it a json file implementation?
[06:33:21] <shess_> tfarina: straight binary file.  It's all hashes, and all used from C++ code, so no gain to json.  It would be human-readable, but hashes are intrinsically not very readable.
[06:34:02] <shess_> I mean they don't really mean anything, there's intentionally no mapping table to know what they mean...
[06:34:33] <tfarina> shess_: ah, just binary file, sounds good, so no dependency in sqlite is also good.
[06:34:57] <tfarina> shess_: to protect the data?
[06:35:26] <rsleevi> obscurity: The best security ;)
[06:35:53] <shess_> no intention to protect or obfuscate it.  really, the flat file is smaller (without compression, hashes don't compress anyhow), and it can be read/written streaming, so the count of I/O operations is very significantly reduced.
[06:36:56] <tfarina> shess_: would be interesting to see this in though.
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[06:37:13] <shess_> I want it in simply so that I don't have to worry about bit-rot.
[06:37:34] <shess_> but it's kind of painful code in there, so it's annoying to get back up to speed to push it over the top.
[06:37:40] <shess_> I WILL DO IT THOUGH :-).
[06:38:11] <tfarina> cool!
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[06:55:54] <blendmaster1024> I'm looking for a channel to ask an extension dev question for /chrome(ium)?/. not sure if here works, but here goes ...
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[06:56:53] <blendmaster1024> I want to find out an ID for the current tab from the contentscript, and then again from the browser action popup, via javascript obviously. what call allows me to do this?
[06:57:01] <tfarina> blendmaster1024: you can get help here, but not now
[06:57:14] <tfarina> since it's friday evening
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[06:57:38] <blendmaster1024> tfarina, what does that have to do with it? seems like an odd reason to not be allowed to ask ...
[06:57:52] <tfarina> blendmaster1024: would be better to ask in the extensions groups
[06:58:05] <tfarina> blendmaster1024: no, you can ask of curse :)
[06:58:14] <rsleevi> just no one may be around to answer :)
[06:58:28] <blendmaster1024> tfarina, where is that? that a mailing list or irc?
[06:58:31] <tfarina> yep that is what I meant :)
[06:58:40] <tfarina> blendmaster1024: a mailing list
[06:58:58] <rsleevi> http://www.chromium.org/developers/discussion-groups
[06:59:03] <rsleevi> chromium-extensions
[07:00:12] <anicolao> blendmaster1024: you might look at https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/mgjjeipcdnnjhgodgjpfkffcejoljijf
[07:00:22] <anicolao> possibly its code does similar things to what you want.
[07:00:46] <blendmaster1024> well, this seems like something fairly common to want to do ...
[07:02:09] <blendmaster1024> what I want is to retrieve data already collected from the page via the contentscript that is stored in the background page. however, when the popup runs, I don't know any ID information for the current tab. same for when the contentscript runs.
[07:02:41] <blendmaster1024> just like a session-unique tab ID, so that I can get the tab again later
[07:05:11] <blendmaster1024> I don't know, maybe I just need a page action. but this is an enhanced bookmarking tool, so it's applicable to all pages ...
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[07:06:55] <anicolao> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=communicating+between+the+content+script+and+extension+popup+chrome+chromium seems promising too.
[07:06:57] <tfarina> shess_: sent a tiny cl to you.
[07:07:21] <blendmaster1024> anicolao, I think you forgot to tinyurl that.
[07:08:28] <zoidfarb> Hey, I'm thinking about writing a chromium extension, and I've just started reading the docs for the API. Does somebody know the there's a way to call the ctrl+f search bar function? I haven't found it so far.
[07:09:14] <blendmaster1024> zoidfarb, heh, I'm here for extension dev too ... and for a similar "I can't find this call that should exist" problem
[07:09:16] <rsleevi> Friday evenings, popular time for extension development it seems :)
[07:09:33] <zoidfarb> we're just cool like that. ;)
[07:10:53] <zoidfarb> if there's something that's not in the API yet, is there a place where you can add it / submit a patch upstream?
[07:10:59] <blendmaster1024> zoidfarb, well, maybe you know - I want to get data from the content script in the browser action popup.
[07:13:19] <zoidfarb> blendmaster, have you seen this: http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/messaging.html
[07:13:58] <blendmaster1024> zoidfarb, I have. that allows communication, but the thing that's missing is that I don't know which contentscript gets it.
[07:15:03] <blendmaster1024> actually, I want the result of an ajax call that was done on page load in the background page. this call was specific to the page that just loaded, and uses some data passed from the contentscript.
[07:15:47] <blendmaster1024> when the browser action popup shows, I want to grab the data that was returned for the current page.
[07:16:07] <zoidfarb> hmm, if you don't know which script gets it, maybe just try it and see?
[07:16:29] <blendmaster1024> wait, there it is - chrome.tabs.getSelected! how did I miss that!
[07:16:34] <zoidfarb> honestly, I just started looking at this stuff, so I'm probably the wrong person to ask
[07:16:42] <zoidfarb> awesome
[07:17:28] <blendmaster1024> sheesh. anyway, with that, I may be able to like store the result in the content script, and then message the content script to retrieve it. cool! thanks for sending me back to that page xD
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[07:31:53] <trungl> thakis_!
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[07:38:02] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on "Chromium Builder (dbg)" from 52809: jam at chromium dot org (:jam2))
[07:39:35] <tfarina> webcore.lib(V8Binding.obj) : fatal error LNK1318: Unexpected PDB error; UNKNOWN (24) ''
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[07:41:03] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by jam at chromium dot org (:jam2): Tree is closed (flaky build error)
[07:41:05] <jam2> hmm the tree just broke with my simple renaming of an enum.  not my fault
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[07:48:42] <thakis_> flake
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[07:49:16] <tolkad> Oh hi Ima using the chrome and it said it was been importing my firefox passwords but it not work. also I can't be finding noscript plz help
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[07:50:27] <tolkad> please be a helping with the chrome?
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[07:52:36] <tolkad> my chrom  not be working you be helping yes?
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[08:01:35] <tolkad> it be my chromes that not be working
[08:01:47] <tolkad> pleas I be wanting to use my chromes
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[08:02:41] <leiz> jam2: can I reopen?
[08:02:46] <leiz> tolkad: see /topic
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[08:04:46] <tolkad> leiz: this be chromes channel? channel of many chromes yes?
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[08:05:57] <leiz> tolkad: /topic says: Chromium Dev Channel | ask user questions in #chromium-support
[08:06:49] <tolkad> yes yes many chromes
[08:08:16] <leiz> jam2: I reverted a change, it it goes green I will reopen
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[08:12:24] <jam2> leiz: sg, just saw this after i committed another change
[08:12:30] <jam2> i'll watch the tree for a little
[08:12:48] <leiz> same here, I'm going to green up the memory tree
[08:13:18] <jam2> cool
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[08:23:30] <leiz> sigh, maybe drover didn't revert properly, cros failed to build
[08:24:02] <leiz> and the windows builder failed a second time
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[08:31:07] <leiz> I'll try clobbering Chromium Builder (dbg) once it idles
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[09:07:17] <tfarina> jam2: maybe reopen the tree?
[09:07:57] <leiz> tfarina: no, chromium builder was still red
[09:08:16] <leiz> also, gcl let me commit even though the tree was closed
[09:08:22] * leiz wonders what's wrong
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[09:11:28] <tfarina> leiz: oh I see the chromium builder is not compiling :(
[09:12:18] <leiz> tfarina: I clobbered, hoping for green
[09:12:19] <tfarina> it's failing for the same reason when jam2 committed his enum patch.
[09:14:00] <leiz> tfarina: here's a video to distract you while we wait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco
[09:14:24] <tfarina> now it compiled :)
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[09:15:54] <leiz> :)
[09:20:05] <leiz> tfarina: I'll reopen in a few min
[09:20:05] <tfarina> leiz: I need some sleep, is 4am here. I will go now. I think the tree is good with you, night all.
[09:20:32] <tfarina> sounds good! thank you.
[09:20:42] <leiz> tfarina: good night!
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[09:21:08] <tfarina> you too :)
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[09:29:07] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by thestig at chromium dot org (:leiz): Tree is open (you break it, you bought it)
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[11:50:37] <kkb110> Can anybody show me a web page that explains how to make own user script?
[11:51:11] <kkb110> I understand how it is installed as extension, but if I write my own script... how should I install it?
[11:52:35] <exxe> kkb110: maybe http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/user-scripts helps
[11:54:20] 
[11:54:39] <wRAR> I think there are docs at least for Opera and Greasemonkey scripts too, though there are some differences and incompatibilities between the implementations
[11:55:04] <wRAR> kkb110: you can install it via --load-extension command line option
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[12:02:32] <kkb110> wRAR: is this right? But it doesn't work
[12:02:40] <kkb110> [Desktop Screenshot] http://dancingwhale.linuxstudy.pe.kr/irc_screenshot/2010-07-17_06:05:49.png
[12:03:36] <kkb110> left-top = launching chromium with --load-extension;  right-top = the script; left-bottom = launched chromium
[12:11:08] <wRAR> maybe it should me named *.user.js, not just *.js
[12:16:37] <exxe> kkb110: rename it to *.user.js and drag it into chrome...
[12:19:37] <kkb110> wRAR, exxe both methods work. Thank you very much :D
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[14:05:35] <devurandom> Hi!
[14:05:41] <devurandom> What does chromium do with libjingle?
[14:06:21] <devurandom> (While compiling chromium 6.0.466.0 I see -Ithird_party/libjingle/overrides)
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[14:48:18] <pcgod> afaik xmpp for the sync feature
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[15:22:08] <mahfouz> how can I switch off java (but not javascript) in the latest ubuntu chromium builds?
[15:22:35] <mahfouz> the java plugin has recently started working for me but it's very unstable
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[15:26:40] <pcgod> disable the java plugin?
[15:27:31] <mahfouz> oh
[15:27:36] <mahfouz> found it in about:plugins
[15:28:00] <mahfouz> yeah, the java plugin
[15:28:10] <mahfouz> it started working for me a couple of days ago
[15:28:13] <mahfouz> never worked before
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[16:10:56] <wRAR> does Chromium load system libOSMesa?
[16:11:46] <lindi-> what's libOSMesa?
[16:12:18] <lindi-> ah 'Mesa Off-screen rendering extension'
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[16:13:36] <wRAR> because it uses its headers and I think I've seen commits about using system library but it is not linked against it and 'fgrep libOSMesa' doesn't show anything
[16:14:19] <devurandom> pcgod: Ah, thanks. That seems sensible. Awesome even. :)
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[16:16:58] <KostasDi> hello i'm having a problem with a clean install of chrome (not chromium). It crashes whenever i try to use an input form (probably looking for saved entries)
[16:17:48] <KostasDi> is a problem of chrome (using latest dev 458.1) or is there something with my computer?
[16:18:21] <KostasDi> have you ever seen such a bug for chromium?
[16:20:31] <lindi-> KostasDi: can you get a backtrace? I'm seeing similar crashes on ARM and it is sqlite related. #48825
[16:22:47] <KostasDi> i just did an import settings and it fixed it..
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[16:23:45] <KostasDi> there sure seems to be a bug (reporting now) but it works for now
[16:24:52] <lindi-> KostasDi: again, i'd like very much to see the backtrace to check if it is the same as I have
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[16:35:08] <wRAR> ok, looks like Chromium will try to load libosmesa.so while it is really libOSMesa.so.7
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[17:00:30] <donkykong> Hi, how do you disable chromium history?
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[17:01:02] <donkykong> I did not find an option to do something like clear history when closing..or disable it...
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[19:40:43] <johnny_g> yep, i'm on the layout test failure
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[21:00:55] <alyxuk> mm :/
[21:00:58] <alyxuk> weird question.
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[21:01:25] <alyxuk> i have lots of tabs open in a incognito session, and the proxy i was using just went down, meaning i need to restart the session (to change the proxy it used..)
[21:01:32] <alyxuk> is it at all possible to temporarily SAVE this session?
[21:01:36] <alyxuk> so i can reopen it again :|?
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[21:02:53] <alyxuk> and because its incognito, i cant undo closed tabs to find the source of the tabs i have open :/
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[21:04:46] <alyxuk> the problem is actually with chrome itself :/
[21:05:05] <alyxuk> for some reason, occasionaly it stops trying to use a proxy to resolve a domain if i open enough tabs
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[22:01:32] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by bevc at chromium dot org: Tree is closed. Restarting master.
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[22:14:39] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by bevc at chromium dot org: Tree is open
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[22:23:24] <r0t> is there a release schedule for when the next stable is supposed to be released?
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[22:31:14] <rsleevi> r0t: I believe m6 is supposed to be branched soon (next few days), which will then feed into the beta and stable channels
[22:31:44] <r0t> what's the 'm' in m6?
[22:31:49] <rsleevi> milestone
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[22:33:44] <rsleevi> Yeah, the 19th is when things get frozen, looking for an august beta and september stable
[22:34:27] <r0t> now i'm a coldfusion developer and when coldfusion creates flash forms with cfform with text  in a drop down box with cfselect the text does not populate the field. it does although in firefox and internet explorer. how would i debug this?
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[22:36:06] <rsleevi> A good question. Beats me :) Aside from debugging though, you may wish to consider reporting it on http://new.crbug.com
[22:36:06] <rubenbb> r0t: try running chrome with --no-sandbox and see if that makes a difference
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[23:43:50] <r0t> wtf
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[23:44:02] <r0t> chromium is stopping all downloads at 40mb
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[23:49:00] <lindi-> r0t: filed a bug yet?
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