[00:00:09] <legion13> @rubenbb: thanks for the help
[00:00:39] <rubenbb> np
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[00:03:26] <Limbero> since when do I have to press enter to see the answer after doing calculations in the omnibox?
[00:03:31] <Limbero> I haven't done it in ages
[00:03:33] <Limbero> admittedly
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[00:55:00] <Cheery> hi. I were thinking about writing some auth plugin for chrome, though appears I need NPAPI to interact with a crypto, and user's keyfiles.
[00:55:18] <Cheery> NPAPI is one horrible mess, do you have anything else?
[00:55:24] <Cheery> (which I could try)
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[00:59:30] <Cheery> there's some dumb stuff about internal flash player on chrome.. not API details though.
[01:01:40] <Cheery> hm.. found
[01:01:44] <Cheery> http://colonelpanic.net/2009/03/building-a-firefox-plugin-part-one/
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[01:23:25] <rubenbb> Cheery: there's ppapi - ppapi.googlecode.com/
[01:24:09] <Cheery> that works on chrome?
[01:24:52] <rubenbb> hmm, interesting, xcopybuf works if I highlight a page that's already loaded, but it doesn't work if I write a url in the omnibox and then highlight it
[01:25:11] <Cheery> and doesn't involve reading anything from a cousin of Rasmus Lerdorf?
[01:25:13] <rubenbb> Cheery: I believe it only works on chromium/chrome
[01:25:38] <Cheery> I don't write plugins for firefox if I have some better API that works on linux as well.
[01:25:53] <Cheery> (at least not through NPAPI
[01:26:35] <rubenbb> I meant xcopybuf doesn't add the http:// earlier
[01:27:41] <Cheery> hm. I guess I'll take my manly shrinking sleep.
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[01:28:03] <Cheery> maybe reading a little bit about this ppapi just now so I don't have false hopes.
[01:29:59] <rubenbb> ppapi is brand new but I think their goal is to replace npapi
[01:30:12] <Cheery> what a nice goal.
[01:30:44] <rubenbb> I read somewhere that mozilla doesn't implement it yet, though they support the idea or something, but I can't find that link now
[01:31:32] <Cheery> a little other thing I wonder.. partially paraller to what I'm thinking now.
[01:31:56] <Cheery> (first googling before asking stupid question)
[01:33:46] <rubenbb> Cheery: aah, found the link, chrome history to the rescue :) - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/13/google_native_client_sdk/print.html
[01:33:51] <Cheery> I wonder about js client side apps that work offline. Do they have a mechanism to let user save a file given by them?
[01:34:28] <Cheery> with an app that works online, you'd just click a link that points to something you can directly pass around.
[01:35:44] <rubenbb> I believe npapi:pepper in that article is ppapi, but I'm not sure about that
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[01:35:56] <Cheery> pepper plugin api.
[01:36:01] <Cheery> sounds like that.
[01:36:05] <rubenbb> yep
[01:36:45] <rubenbb> as for saving files, I think that's what google gears was about, but they've deprecated that in favor of the webstorage features of html 5
[01:37:14] <Cheery> webstorage features are yet unknown for me.
[01:37:36] <Cheery> you remember js API for those?
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[01:40:19] <rubenbb> http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/
[01:42:40] <rubenbb> Cheery: you may prefer websql for your app - http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/
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[01:43:56] <Cheery> actually I might not..
[01:46:38] <Limbero> since when do I have to press enter to see the answer after doing calculations in the omnibox?
[02:06:47] <Cheery> lol.. the first extension I've ever made for chrome has pepper plugin.
[02:07:35] <Cheery> about time anyway
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[02:42:56] <tony^work> fixing tree breakage
[02:42:57] <tony^work> sorry
[02:52:30] <tony^work> fixes checked in
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[03:08:00] <legion13> @rubenbb: yt ?
[03:12:28] <legion13> anybody here have success building on mac os x ? .. I'm trying to build on mac os x 10.6.3 but getting errors when it tries to compile the 3rd party libraries
[03:13:16] <legion13> I have pastebin'd part of my log : http://pastebin.com/rCve5h68
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[03:16:13] <rubenbb> legion13: do you have yasm on your mac os x system?  If so, set the use_system_yasm flag to 1 and try compiling with that
[03:18:33] <legion13> @rubenbb: don't have yasm ..
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[03:20:28] <tony^work> oops, mini installer failed too
[03:20:34] <tony^work> investigating
[03:23:02] <tony^work> windows fix checked in
[03:23:11] <rubenbb> legion13: what version of xcode are you running?
[03:23:49] <legion13> @rubenbb: I am running xcode 3.2.2
[03:24:18] <rubenbb> legion13: what subversion version?
[03:24:50] <legion13> @rubenbb: I have svn 1.6.5
[03:27:29] <rubenbb> legion13: looks like you have some problem generating that file to build yasm.  If you can't figure it out, I suggest you build yasm from macports (http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=library&substr=yasm) and then set the use_system_yasm flag to use the macports yasm instead
[03:28:11] <legion13> @rubenbb: ok, let me try that
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[03:34:01] <rubenbb> legion13: their builder has no problem compiling the same lc3bid.c file, so it looks like there's something different about your environment that is stopping you - http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Mac/builds/5954/steps/compile/logs/stdio
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[03:36:28] <legion13> ah ok @ rubenbb I think I just figured out what it is
[03:36:53] <legion13> it's the Unix Dev packages installed along with xcode
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[03:39:06] <weinjared> got a question about submitting a patch to my patch: should i do a gcl change ____ first or just a gcl upload ____ ?
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[03:40:14] <quizme> is there a way to get the user's computer serial number?
[03:40:27] <quizme> using Chrome ?
[03:41:00] <quizme> or some other unique identified that persists across browsing sessions and domains?
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[04:52:27] <legion13> @rubenbb: yt ?
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[04:57:16] <legion13> @rubenbb: yasm is building now and I think the build will succeed. I didn't have the optional "Unix Developer Tools" with XCode. Installing them fixed it
[04:58:23] <m0> weinjared: send your patch to the try job, Patch 'accessiblecrash-e1820' sent to try server: win, mac, linux
[04:58:34] <m0> weinjared: it will email you the results
[04:59:38] <legion13> @rubenbb: Who could add this to the wiki ?
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[05:21:16] * hbono suppressing valgrind errors.
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[05:28:54] <tony^work> legion13: which wiki page, I can add it
[05:29:35] <legion13> @tony^work: the mac build instructions
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[05:31:40] <legion13> @tony^work: The instruction about having XCode 3.1 or higher, it should mention that the optional "Unix Developer Tools"  are required
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[07:43:58] <Cheery> I'm in middle of trying to figure out how to use ppapi
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[07:52:18] <dcheng> I don't think it was my change.
[07:52:31] <dcheng> My change was OS X only
[07:52:51] <satorux> asking kinuko
[07:53:05] <satorux> maybe related to her change
[07:53:05] <tony^work> hmm, installer failures might be mine
[07:53:46] <satorux> 48017 looks only related to mac?
[07:54:02] <tony^work> oh, looks like it's a bot failure
[07:54:19] <tony^work> the error message is "WindowsError: [Error 740] The requested operation requires elevation"
[07:54:22] <tony^work> hmm
[07:54:22] <tony^work> that's weird
[07:54:49] <satorux> i see
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[07:55:00] <satorux> let me see if forcing a build fixes
[07:55:10] <kinuko_> My change may have broken it
[07:56:36] <satorux> let us know once you figure it out if it's the case
[07:59:47] <kinuko_> sure... the error message looks like it's a privilege error?
[08:00:06] <kinuko_> happens only on vista?
[08:00:27] <hbono> kinuko_: yes.
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[08:01:45] <satorux> if it's a bot issue, i can restart the bot, if needed.
[08:01:53] <kinuko_> my change lets out-of-proc test generate an output file.  maybe that is causing the problem?
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[08:03:31] <satorux> before the change there was OS_WIN in the out_of_proc....cc
[08:03:56] <satorux> something might be changed
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[08:06:09] <kinuko_> Hmm.  I changed how we reconstruct the new command-line for child process.  It seems to be working for browser_tests though...
[08:06:17] <kinuko_> I guess I should revert my change for now
[08:06:22] <satorux> k
[08:06:44] <satorux> let me do a force build on the bot
[08:07:33] <hbono> kinuko_: I don't have any solid idea abut it and building Chromium on my Win7 box to investigate it. Maybe the test tried reading or writing to an object which needs sudo (in terms of Linux/Mac)?
[08:08:18] <satorux> clicked on the force build, but the bot is now busy running browser_tests...
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[08:11:18] <kinuko_> hbono: if it's related to my change it is trying to write a file, but the file location should be the same place as where other tests are writing.
[08:13:34] <hbono> kinuko_: I suspect it might be caused by a manifest error.
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[08:18:55] <satorux> per chat with kinuko, we'll revert it with drover
[08:19:10] <satorux> kinuko's svn binary is not new enough for drover
[08:19:16] <satorux> I'll do it instead.
[08:20:06] <satorux> ah, kinuko found a newer binary
[08:20:10] <satorux> she'll give it a shot
[08:20:25] <kinuko_> satorux: haven't you tried it right?  ok let me try...
[08:20:37] <satorux> I didn't.
[08:21:25] <kinuko_> satorux: k.  I'm running it now...
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[08:22:13] <nayankk> hello..
[08:23:15] <Cheery> I'd like to see some chrome extensions that provide NPAPI plugins along them
[08:23:24] <nayankk> Does SKIA makes use of hardware acceleration?
[08:24:04] <tony^work> Cheery: the proxy switcher extension has an NPAPI plugin
[08:24:54] <Cheery> okay. Though just found more things I think I'll check out.
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[08:29:18] <kinuko_> submitted r48019 that reverts 48015.  Hope it fixes the break.
[08:31:09] <satorux> thanks. we'll see
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[08:44:37] <Cheery> hm.
[08:45:18] <Cheery> on NPAPI plugins, the chrome gets the mimetype from the executable.
[08:45:32] <Cheery> at least seems being the case.
[08:46:10] <Cheery> with pepper api there's not anything like that..
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[09:46:38] <tony^work> The tests failed after the revert.  I'm trying the bots a second time, but it probably won't work.
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[09:50:30] <hbono> I'm looking into the manifest embedded to mini_install_test.exe downloaded from <http://codg26.jail.google.com/b/slave/chromium-rel-builder/chrome_staging/>.
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[09:53:25] <satorux> ah, the bot failed again
[09:54:15] <satorux> maybe the last run didn't contain the revert CL...
[09:54:30] <satorux> as I clicked on the force build button earlier than the revert CL.
[09:56:23] <satorux> hmm
[09:56:28] <satorux> http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Vista%20Tests/builds/19207
[09:57:05] <satorux> per the information, the revert cl 48019 was included in the build
[09:57:37] <satorux> so this looks like a bot issue
[09:58:29] <hbono> satorux: this issue also hapeens on my Win7 PC.
[09:59:20] <satorux> even weirder
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[10:02:29] <satorux> looks something was wrong with the windows build
[10:02:40] <tony^work> it's probably my earlier change
[10:02:42] <tony^work> I will look into it
[10:02:45] <satorux> thanks
[10:03:21] <tony^work> I think we can open the tree while I investigate
[10:04:33] <satorux> opened
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[10:09:31] <tony^work> attempted fix checked in
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[10:12:36] <tony^work> sorry for the breakage
[10:13:08] <hbono> tony^work: I think your build fix is correct. :)
[10:13:34] <tony^work> I wonder why it didn't show up until a few hours after I committed the original change
[10:15:09] <satorux> yeah
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[10:20:50] <hbono> tony^work: as far as I looked into the archived builds in buildbots, mini_installer_test has not been re-built until r48015. Probably, a dependency problem of VC.
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[10:23:49] <kinuko_> nice.  I'll retry submitting my change later... :)
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[10:28:37] <glider> hi all
[10:29:04] <glider> going to land tcmalloc r94 again to check out the performance results
[10:29:26] <satorux> you might want to wait
[10:29:35] <satorux> until we confirm tony's change fix the build
[10:29:59] <glider> satorux: okay
[10:30:15] <hbono> satorux: can I land valgrind suppressions?
[10:31:48] <satorux> i think so
[10:31:51] <satorux> it sounds safe
[10:32:28] <satorux> tcmalloc changed sounded a bit risky :)
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[10:35:28] <hbono> satorux: thanks.
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[10:36:33] <hbono> I have landed a couple of suppressions, wishing they makes the Linux valgrind bots green.
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[11:03:19] <zaheerm> chromium chokes on webm live streams, firefox preview and gstreamer players are fine: example live stream http://209.20.69.89:8800/bbc1.webm
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[11:32:17] <zaheerm> if you want to try with an html page here: http://zaheer.merali.org/webm/
[11:36:22] <tony^work> test passed!
[11:36:22] <tony^work> yay
[11:38:00] <satorux> cool
[11:38:20] <satorux> I'm going home
[11:38:59] <kinuko_> cool!
[11:45:19] <satorux> sorry about the false alarm, kinuko-san
[11:50:12] <glider> can I land the patch now?
[11:51:18] <pcgod> zaheerm: you should write a bug report for that
[11:51:53] <zaheerm> pcgod, ok thx will do
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[12:01:37] <hbono> glider: yeah (on behalf of satorux).
[12:01:55] <glider> hbono: 10x
[12:02:14] <hbono> glider: np. (he left this message to me before he left.)
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[12:42:57] <Cheery> agh. my ppapi usage attempts are foiled by one little thing. :(
[12:43:51] <Cheery> I don't figure out how do I tell chrome what mimetypes does my plugin match one.
[12:43:54] <Cheery> *on
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[13:03:16] <cadsteer> well when i launch chromium i get [8372:8401:421042728:FATAL:chrome/browser/sync/syncable/directory_backing_store.cc(119)] Check failed: SQLITE_DONE == query_result.  Aborted
[13:04:28] <cadsteer> i should i ask that in suppor chan sorry.
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[14:18:05] <rasztasd> hi, can i run chromium-os from a 32 bit host os?
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[15:16:40] <pARAd0X85> hi
[15:17:08] <pARAd0X85> I am trying to run a build of chromium to be able to test vp8 codec, but I have received this error
[15:17:10] <pARAd0X85> error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so.1d: cannot open shared object file:
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[15:21:29] <glider> satorux:
[15:21:52] <glider> oh
[15:22:21] <glider> pARAd0X85: does "locate libnss3.so.1d" print anything?
[15:24:20] <thomasvl> mseaborn: do you need that header in some other gyp file?  if not, INTERMEDIATE_DIR will work just find.  the shared one is for things needed by different projects.
[15:25:24] <mseaborn> ?thomasvl: ah, i see.  i thought SHARED meant cross-arch.
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[15:25:56] <thomasvl> yea, as things have grown, names have taken on more then one meaning.  :(
[15:26:04] <mseaborn> i wish Gyp gave you a private namespace by default.
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[15:26:35] <mseaborn> Would I be right in thinking that it's not usual to run test cases from the Gyp build?
[15:26:57] <thomasvl> gyp's tests or chrome's tests?
[15:27:21] <thomasvl> the chrome build bots are all running test cases listed in the gyp files.
[15:27:53] <thomasvl> as far as namespaces, it's sorta up to the generators.  the make one is the one that has a global namespace since it lists all targets in the top level makefile.  none of the other generators do that.
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[15:36:49] <mseaborn> ?thomasvl: i meant chrome's tests
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[15:53:28] <nayankk> Hi All.. Which font library does SKIA uses for font layout in Linux port?
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[16:26:18] <rsesek> pinkerton: stupid CL to you http://codereview.chromium.org/2149002
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[16:26:48] <pinkerton> ok
[16:36:04] <pinkerton> rsesek: lgtm
[16:36:06] <rsesek> tx
[16:36:12] <rsesek> that was a total do'h moment
[16:36:13] <pinkerton> sorry for not catching that the first time around
[16:36:26] <pinkerton> that's why we want xibs for review :D
[16:36:30] <rsesek> it's a XIB ? hard to do :p
[16:36:43] <rsesek> then Apple should make a xibdiff program or something
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[16:38:43] <trungl> 'morning, Chromium.
[16:38:48] <rsesek> morning, trungl
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[16:42:12] <rjkroege> I built chromium for mac yesterday and it has an odd performance regression: a tab doing nothing (plain html content) uses 2-3% of the procesor because (according to shark) very V8::IdleNotification was doing a full garbage collection. Any ideas?
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[16:43:03] <rsesek> sounds like crbug.com/44494
[16:43:46] <rsesek> maybe not, though
[16:45:19] <rjkroege> rsesek: this sounds like the problem.
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[16:45:46] <rsesek> rjkroege: maybe not; thakis investigated a bit this weekend and sounds like he found the root cause (which doesn't sound v8 related)
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[16:46:10] * thakis goes to read channel logs :-P
[16:46:19] <rsesek> thakis: http://crbug.com/44494 stuff
[16:46:23] <rsesek> potentially
[16:46:48] <trungl> maybe it was just someone impersonating thakis?
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[16:46:58] <timeless_mbp> is chromium for the n900 supposed to support <html5:video>?
[16:47:00] <rsesek> you mean nothakis?
[16:47:09] <thakis> rjkroege: i'd think you hit the bug that rsesek linked to
[16:47:16] <trungl> maybe thakis isn't a person, but a collective
[16:47:58] * trungl should get better at starting rumours
[16:48:02] * trungl tries again
[16:48:13] <trungl> I hear thakis isn't a single person, but a collective
[16:48:18] <thakis> we're not
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[16:49:02] <trungl> :P
[16:49:24] <thakis> uh, "we" in the royal sense, we mean
[16:49:59] <trungl> the thakis collective is royalty?
[16:50:01] <rjkroege> thakis: rsesek: the symptons are the same with what I saw.
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[17:32:23] <bratsche> Oh shit, evmar's on vacation.. any other Linux developers around by any chance?
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[17:58:06] <demanufacture> hello
[17:58:21] <demanufacture> how to disable keyboard shortcuts in chromium?
[17:58:35] <Waste> keyconfig extension? :S
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[18:00:04] <demanufacture> just delete action?
[18:00:34] <demanufacture> i need to turn off "space"
[18:00:40] <demanufacture> i cant work with it
[18:00:55] <demanufacture> when i'm writing it scrooling down
[18:00:57] <demanufacture> :(
[18:02:03] <stuartmorgan> demanufacture: see channel topic for the right places to ask
[18:03:11] <demanufacture> ok
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[18:09:43] <SiegHard> Hello everyone has problem with last chromium update, problem u can't watch videos in full screen
[18:10:07] <Cheery> really?
[18:10:18] <stuartmorgan> SiegHard: http://new.crbug.com
[18:10:20] <SiegHard> it's questuon
[18:10:20] <SiegHard> :D
[18:10:31] <Cheery> SiegHard: Sure I can.
[18:11:00] <SiegHard> Cheery, what version u using?
[18:11:22] <Cheery> lessee. how do I find it out?
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[18:11:48] <Cheery> oh
[18:11:49] <Cheery> this way
[18:11:51] <stuartmorgan> SiegHard, Cheery: Please use #chromium-support for this
[18:12:00] <Cheery> 6.0.414.0 (48024)
[18:12:20] <Cheery> stuartmorgan: might chromium also answer my ppapi -plugin related questions?
[18:12:31] <Cheery> (chromium-support in particular)
[18:12:58] <Cheery> http://www.chromeplugins.org/google/plugins-development/ppapi-mimetypes-linux-9747.html
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[18:14:05] <Cheery> hm. maybe I'm wasting my time here.. I could yet try look up from chromium sources how their plugin system works out.
[18:14:12] <thakis> Cheery: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/plugin/sdk/samples/basic/unix/BasicPlugin.c
[18:14:21] <thakis> Cheery: (look for NP_GetMIMEDescription())
[18:14:33] <thakis> Cheery: (just a guess, tho)
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[18:14:51] <Cheery> thakis: I saw that. though ppapi says it has only 3 such functions you need to implement.
[18:15:22] <Cheery> could try though.. maybe it might work.
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[18:15:29] <nickcarter> satorux, skrul: fyi, i've arrived & am on duty now
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[18:18:13] <stuartmorgan> Cheery: from https://wiki.mozilla.org/NPAPI:Pepper it sounds like the final MIME type system isn't in place yet
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[18:19:36] <aho> just got chromium 6.0.415.0 (48035)... it fails to play my audio-only webm/vorbis files
[18:19:43] <aho> http://kaioa.com/k/ct/firefox/blam.webm (too short for firefox)
[18:19:55] <aho> http://kaioa.com/k/ct/firefox/pickup.webm (too short for firefox and opera)
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[18:20:28] <aho> http://kaioa.com/k/ct/firefox/blam.ogg <- very same vorbis stream... this one works, but only once
[18:20:38] <Cheery> stuartmorgan: ok.
[18:20:52] <Cheery> stuartmorgan: does there exist another way I might be able to still start my plugin?
[18:21:01] <aho> chromium also failed playing some really long webm audio-only file, which does work fine everywhere else
[18:21:03] <Cheery> (it'd be actually preferrable, fully scripted way)
[18:21:14] <aho> is this a known bug?
[18:21:44] <stuartmorgan> Cheery: I don't know the details of pepper plugins, but I would guess that you should do it however you would for NPAPI on your platform for now
[18:23:11] <thakis> awong_: ^ (what aho said)
[18:23:49] <Cheery> stuartmorgan: ah. NPAPI is horrible. :(
[18:24:11] <Cheery> (I want to try anything else before attemptting to use it)
[18:25:46] <stuartmorgan> Cheery: have you already looked at the source for the example ppapi plugin?
[18:26:25] <Cheery> yes. were unable to figure out how to build and execute it though.
[18:26:38] <Cheery> I have my own variation I were able to compile.
[18:26:50] <Cheery> and which loads to the chromium if I mark it a plugin.
[18:27:41] <stuartmorgan> Cheery: on the Mac the example plugin has MIME types declared in the Info.plist just like NPAPI would, which suggests it's probably the same as NPAPI on all platforms
[18:28:54] <nickcarter> chase: ping
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[18:30:59] <Cheery> WOAHA!! darin from chromium answered my email. :)
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[18:32:02] <skrul> jcivelli: ping
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[18:33:23] <jcivelli> skrull:I am reverting
[18:33:52] <skrul> jcivelli: thx :)
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[18:43:46] <thakis> where do enums that are sent over ipc go?
[18:43:56] <thakis> well, chrome/common somewhere
[18:43:59] <rsesek> renderer_messages.h
[18:44:03] <thakis> thx
[18:44:25] <rsesek> render_messages.h (not renderer)
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[18:50:09] <kkaefer> is this the right place to ask questions about v8?
[18:50:26] <aho> well, there is also #v8
[18:51:17] <kkaefer> aho: which has "see #chromium" in the subject
[18:51:41] <aho> *shrug* :)
[18:52:03] <kkaefer> ok, I"ll ask away
[18:52:05] <Ke> 'wouldn't it be more proper to set a redirect
[18:52:07] <kkaefer> http://gist.github.com/412097
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[18:52:30] <kkaefer> is there a way to make the enumerable property state inherit "through" a prototype?
[18:54:16] <kkaefer> (without having to redeclare the property states for each instance created with the new keyword)
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[19:01:44] <rohitrao> mirandac: have you ever seen the "disappearing findbar" bug in a debug build?
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[19:03:40] <Dark|Book> Can the extension panel be made transparent at all, or allow for a color change?
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[19:37:49] <jparent> nsylvain: If you have a minute, two of the FYI bots seem sick.
[19:38:04] <jparent> nsylvain: Linux Perf(webkit.org) has been failing to compile for a couple days, but it compiles elsewhere.  I've clobbered and force build'ed to no avail.
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[19:38:36] <jparent> nsylvain: And XP Tests(webkit.org) isn't updating properly, erroring in svn update C:\b\pylibs
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[19:40:42] <nsylvain> jparent: ok, i'll take a look in a few minutes
[19:41:22] <Dark|Book> Can the extension panel be made transparent at all, or allow for a color change?
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[19:44:23] <fta> piman_, here?
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[19:53:02] <gionnico> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '../../third_party/WebKit/WebKit/chromium/WebKit.grd'
[19:53:22] <gionnico> trying with 6.0.413.0 snapshot
[19:53:54] <gionnico> more: http://pastebay.com/100254
[19:57:57] <chase> nickcarter: pong
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[20:01:11] <rohan> is the beta to final release of the 5.0 branch blocking on the final release of flash plugin 10.1?
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[20:04:05] <rohitrao> rsesek: so you've seen the find bar disappear in a waterfall build?
[20:08:25] <nickcarter> chase: I'm sheriff, and page_cycler_moz has been mostly red today.  Any advice on what to do?
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[20:12:39] <rsesek> rohitrao: yea
[20:12:54] <rsesek> rohitrao: on last.fm (there's a mstone-6 bug assigned to you IIRC)
[20:13:00] <rohitrao> rsesek: ok, I'm just going to run with a release build instead of the dev channel for a while then
[20:13:07] <rohitrao> and hopefully sooner or later it will break :)
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[20:16:00] <chase> nickcarter: hmm, that's interesting
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[20:16:42] <chase> nickcarter: i see 3 regressions, 2 of which are from relanding the same patch
[20:16:50] <chase> nickcarter: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/xp-release-dual-core/moz/report.html?history=150&rev=-1&trace=t&trace=t_ref
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[20:17:35] <chase> don't see glider on irc, willchan: ping
[20:17:47] <willchan> hi
[20:17:58] <chase> willchan: hey will, good morning :)
[20:18:06] <willchan> good day good sir
[20:18:27] <chase> willchan: i see a tcmalloc patch that glider landed, wondering if it's related to a possible regression in perf (CL description suggests that's expected)
[20:18:47] <willchan> it's supposed to be a test
[20:18:58] <willchan> i think
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[20:19:30] <Dark|Book> Can the extension panel be made transparent at all, or allow for a color change?
[20:19:44] <chase> willchan: okay, i don't think this CL alone is enough to cause the moz page cycler to go red, there might be a regression in a WK roll that taken together causes perf to be slow enough to trigger a failure
[20:20:19] <willchan> chase: i don't see a clear moz page cycler regression on that graph
[20:20:29] <willchan> seems within the noise to me
[20:21:11] <gionnico> is 413 broken? make gyp: http://pastebay.com/100254
[20:21:54] <chase> willchan: ?  try zooming out to 300 revisions, it will be clearer then.
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[20:22:46] * Dark|Book wonders what to do with his invisibility
[20:22:53] <willchan> chase: which revision are we talking about?
[20:23:04] <willchan> chase: he seems to have tested it in 48024 and reverted in 48032
[20:23:09] <willchan> is his cl even live?
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[20:25:17] <chase> wilclhan: ok, that makes sense.  we need to look some more at the other CLs, then.
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[20:25:58] <chase> willchan: what's the status of the libunwind change?  did that get relanded?
[20:26:24] <willchan> chase: nope, not relanded yet.  i'm still debating whether or not i'll reland.  i think i will.  i'll notify the sheriff before i do.
[20:26:30] <chronarion> hey guys, just a heads up, ncarter needs to finish a patch, so I will take over as a cosheriff for him today
[20:27:15] <skrul> chronarion: when do you plan on going for lunch?  i need to make a little time to walk the dog around then :)
[20:27:55] <chronarion> skrul: is sooner or later better?
[20:28:26] <skrul> chronarion: i'm pretty flexible, but i'd be gone for like 45 mins
[20:30:27] <rjkroege> is there an easy way to link linux chromium temporarily against a .so? I wanted to try a hack with a dependency on a library for which ubuntu doesn't provide a .a library
[20:31:07] <agl> rjkroege: LD_PRELOAD?
[20:31:56] <rjkroege> agl: but the link fails in building libbrowser.a
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[20:40:13] <chase> willchan: cool, good luck with the next landing
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[20:40:41] <Dark|Book> anyone?
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[20:46:41] <stuartmorgan> Dark|Book: try the extensions mailing list; it's a much better place to get extension-specific questions answered
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[20:48:04] <Dark|Book> do you have a link, please?
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[20:52:24] <rsesek> groups.google.com/a/chromium.org ? browse groups
[20:52:45] <bradleymeck> anyone have a good example of using v8's named interceptors, the embedders guide seemed a little vague to me
[20:53:19] <Dark|Book> Thankyou
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[21:24:18] <agl> rjkroege: Lookup LD_PRELOAD, it doesn't work the way you think it does
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[21:28:34] <skrul> nshkrob_: ping
[21:28:55] <rjkroege> agl: you'd be right about that but the ld.so man page is setting me straight.
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[21:36:32] <skrul> brettw: ping
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[21:47:30] <nsylvain> jparent: Linux Perf (webkit.org) finally compiled. XP Tests (webkit.org) still look semi-sick. I completely cleaned it up, and waiting to see if it helped or not
[21:47:55] <jparent> nsylvain: Thanks!
[21:48:04] <nsylvain> np
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[21:50:33] <nshkrob_> pong, saw that
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[22:02:02] <akalin> chromium folks: just to confirm, DCHECKs aren't enabled on dev channel releases, right?
[22:02:09] <rsesek> correct
[22:02:12] <rsesek> debug-builds only
[22:02:15] <akalin> okay
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[22:09:00] <akalin> today is git gc day apparently
[22:11:15] <nshkrob_> skrul, pong
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[22:13:43] <akalin> willchan, eroman: ping
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[22:17:28] <willchan> akalin: pong
[22:18:21] <akalin> willchan: so i told you earlier about adapting chrome sockets for libjingle etc., and how I needed to know when a read on a socket happens
[22:18:32] <akalin> and you suggested having the read callback call read() again, etc.
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[22:19:15] <akalin> so that works okay, except the xmpp protocol has this thing where the initial handshake happens in the clear, and then the socket needs to be upgraded to an SSL socket
[22:19:26] <akalin> the problem with that is that if there's a pending read or a pending write, that doesn't work
[22:19:44] <akalin> i managed to get it to work by adding a method to tcp_client_socket which cancels any pending reads
[22:20:17] <akalin> i think i'll need something like that to get it to work -- what do you think?
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[22:24:19] <chronarion> nshkrob_: pong, skrul stepped out, i'm other sheriff
[22:25:29] <chronarion> hey does anyone know who to ping about reliability bot?
[22:25:33] <chronarion> it looks stuck
[22:25:57] <nshkrob_> chronarion: sorry about the broken build
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[22:26:08] <nshkrob_> not sure why that happened
[22:26:10] <chronarion> nshkrob_: np hope it rolls green
[22:26:12] <nshkrob_> looking into it now
[22:27:54] <jcivelli> running ui_tests on Linux ChromeOS it complains it cannot find libppapi_tests.so
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[22:31:13] <rsesek> anyone know anything about sending string16 over IPC?
[22:31:39] <thakis> rsesek: it's probably been done before
[22:32:07] <thakis> rsesek: question?
[22:32:08] <rsesek> maybe. but do kittens die if you do? do renderers explode? are there concerns about doing so?
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[22:32:30] <thakis> rsesek: render_messages_internal.h is full with string16 ipc params
[22:32:33] <thakis> rsesek: so i guess "no"
[22:32:43] <thakis> rsesek: probably want to do some sanity length checking
[22:32:54] <rsesek> thakis: okay; but if I spill kitten blood, your hands aren't clean either ;)
[22:32:58] <thakis> rsesek: (i think i clamp the find pasteboard text at 4k characters for example)
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[22:33:11] <thakis> (or 4k bytes. don't remember)
[22:33:21] <rsesek> thakis: I'm looking to send HTML source over IPC, so it's going to need to support hunking anyways
[22:33:24] <chronarion> hi, any troopers around? have a buildbot question
[22:33:44] <thakis> rsesek: eww. what for? view source?
[22:33:48] <rsesek> thakis: ja
[22:34:05] <thakis> that means it goes browser->renderer. so that's less eww, i guess
[22:34:29] <rsesek> thakis: actually it goes renderer -> io thread -> new renderer
[22:34:45] <rsesek> after the browser requests it from that first renderer
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[22:35:42] <thakis> have you looked how "open image in new tab" works? that might be similar
[22:35:53] <thakis> but maybe that doesn't use the cache either
[22:36:01] <rsesek> thakis: I'm pretty sure that just causes a new navigation
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[22:36:14] <rsesek> thakis: this needs to get the current cached HTML of the renderer
[22:36:25] <rsesek> navigation is not an option
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[22:47:37] <willchan> akalin: oops, sorry, disconnected myself while testing ncn
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[22:50:04] <willchan> akalin: do you need to always have a pending read even during the initial handshake?
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[22:52:16] <akalin> blurgh
[22:52:25] <akalin> i hate how git cl upload eats your commit message if something fails :(
[22:53:05] <willchan> akalin: oops, i disconnected on you earlier.  did eroman or anyone else answer?
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[22:53:11] <akalin> willchan: no
[22:53:15] <akalin> willchan: did you get everything I said?
[22:53:27] <willchan> akalin: i think so
[22:53:32] <akalin> okay
[22:53:33] <willchan> akalin: but i can't know :)
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[22:53:45] <willchan> akalin: ended by saying you needed a new method in the interface
[22:53:48] <willchan> canceling reads
[22:53:48] <akalin> yeah
[22:53:57] <willchan> do you need to always have a pending read even during the initial handshake?
[22:54:07] <akalin> yeah
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[22:54:14] <akalin> by 'handshake' i mean the initial xmpp handshake
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[22:55:09] <thakis> akalin: +1 blurgh
[22:55:21] <thakis> i always copy my cl description to the clipboard before doing :wq
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[22:55:33] <akalin> indeed
[22:55:47] <akalin> who maintains git-cl, anyway
[22:56:02] <akalin> i should stop complaining and start helping :)
[22:56:05] <thakis> akalin: like everything, it was written by evmar_vacation
[22:56:19] <thakis> i think i contributed like 2 lines to it too, though
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[22:57:04] <thakis> akalin: http://github.com/martine/git-cl
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[22:57:26] <thakis> it used to be chrome-independent, but i think that's no longer true
[22:58:14] <bauerb> akalin: git cl should keep the description in ~/.git_cl_description_backup
[22:58:15] <akalin> speaking of which, who maintains reitveld
[22:58:20] <trungl> who wants to review a .gitignore CL to ignore vim temporary files?
[22:58:24] <thakis> bauerb: !
[22:58:36] <akalin> bauerb: yeah, that happens sometimes
[22:58:42] <rsesek> trungl: I will
[22:58:47] <akalin> but not always :(
[22:58:57] <trungl> http://codereview.chromium.org/2089023
[22:59:02] <trungl> rsesek: ^
[22:59:08] <bauerb> akalin: when doesn't it happen?
[22:59:35] <akalin> bauerb: the one case where it didn't happen was when i tried doing 'git cl upload' with my network connection turned off
[22:59:37] <trungl> ack, must use right browser
[22:59:38] <akalin> it hit some kinda exception
[23:00:00] <akalin> i lost the terminal output, unfortunately
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[23:00:24] <willchan> akalin: i'll get back to you, got a network stack meeting now
[23:00:30] <akalin> willchan: okay, sure thing
[23:00:37] <bauerb> akalin: it saves the message if there's an exception while uploading
[23:00:58] <akalin> bauerb: hmm okay
[23:01:07] <akalin> i'll try it again
[23:01:20] <akalin> (I'm doing some testing with how chrome reacts to network connection changes)
[23:01:57] <bauerb> akalin: i have a small patch that simply keeps the tmp files used for the description around
[23:02:14] <bauerb> akalin: this way i can always restore the description from /tmp
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[23:04:37] <akalin> yeah, i reproed it again, the stacktrace is: http://pastebin.com/WgEJC7C7
[23:05:15] <thakis> akalin: http://codepad.org > pastebin.com
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[23:05:43] <akalin> bloop
[23:05:45] <akalin> so i reproed it and got a stacktrace: http://pastebin.com/WgEJC7C7
[23:05:53] <bauerb> akalin: what version of git-cl do you have?
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[23:06:20] <akalin> bauerb: how do i check?
[23:06:34] <akalin> bauerb: looks like a really old one
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[23:06:45] <akalin> i thought git-cl did that autoupdate thing, but i guess not
[23:07:02] <bauerb> akalin: again, it should do that ;)
[23:07:13] <akalin> maybe it was a bug in an older version ;)
[23:07:25] <akalin> i'm updated to may 21 now, so maybe all these problems will just go away
[23:07:25] <akalin> yay
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[23:11:26] <thakis> markmentovai: what was the query you sent me earlier? os:mac area:webkit -mstone:x?
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[23:11:36] <markmentovai> thakis: yes
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[23:23:41] <nshkrob_> chronarion: should I worry about browser_test not competing on XP?
[23:23:51] <nshkrob_> *completing
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[23:28:15] <chronarion> nshkrob_: not sure yet, if it fails again i'll close the tree
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[23:31:35] <chronarion> i just closed the tree until some of the builders catch up
[23:31:54] <chronarion> there's a few of them we're waiting on to see if it greens
[23:32:00] <chronarion> once 1 or 2 clear up i'll reopen it
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[23:40:47] <willchan> akalin: i talked to wtc about a CancelRead or CancelIO call
[23:40:50] <willchan> here's what he said:
[23:40:59] <willchan> Wan-Teh:  I see.  We can add a CancelRead or CancelIO method.  I'm worried that it can't be implemented on Windows though.  Windows has a CancelIo system call, but it doesn't work if an LSP is installed, so we now use closesocket() to cancel pending async IO.
[23:41:47] <akalin> willchan: oh :|
[23:41:58] <akalin> what's an LSP?
[23:42:06] <willchan> layered service provider
[23:42:26] <willchan> as far as i can tell, it's a Winsock interface for malware writers to inject their hooks into the Winsock stack
[23:42:36] <akalin> ugh
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[23:42:54] <willchan> but i'm sure it has legitimate uses (internet accelerators use them, although i'm not sure i'd call most of them legitimate)
[23:43:29] <willchan> and it's one of our largest sources of browser crashes (buggy 3rd party LSPs)
[23:44:07] <willchan> akalin: how difficult would it be for you to rewrite the handshake code not to rely on always calling Read()?
[23:44:25] <akalin> it'd have to be done libjingle-side
[23:44:33] <pinkerton> stuartmorgan: i'll have a cl for you to try shortly
[23:44:34] <akalin> i'll look into that
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[23:44:44] <akalin> it sounds like adding CancelPendingIO is complicated
[23:44:50] <stuartmorgan> pinkerton: okay
[23:45:12] <akalin> and i wasn't overjoyed with that solution, anyway
[23:45:23] <akalin> not even sure if it's possible for the SSL sockets, either
[23:45:58] <stuartmorgan> pinkerton: I realized though that I probably can't usefully test it here, since I always have windows open.
[23:46:05] <stuartmorgan> I'll have to try at home
[23:46:23] <pinkerton> yeah
[23:46:38] <pinkerton> its a small cl
[23:52:02] <chronarion> skrul: you there?
[23:52:46] <stuartmorgan> pinkerton: wait, so this doesn't work the way we thought it would? The comment says it would restore 0 pages
[23:53:37] <pinkerton> right, because when you close the window, i guess we record the session is empty
[23:53:44] <pinkerton> er, close the last window
[23:54:03] <pinkerton> the session is always updated
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[23:56:26] <akalin> arrrggh rietveld
[23:57:03] <stuartmorgan> pinkerton: so whether or not opening your first window from the doc follows your pref depends on which pref you use? That's crappy
[23:57:40] <pinkerton> it works in the common cases of "home page" and "open these N urls"
[23:57:54] <stuartmorgan> I've seen user confusion about restore "not working" too, so it's not just a theoretical consistency concern
[23:58:12] <pinkerton> not sure what to do about that, the old session is gone
[23:58:33] <pinkerton> windows would behave the same way
[23:58:39] <stuartmorgan> pinkerton: bwuh?
[23:59:02] <pinkerton> well, it might remember the last window
[23:59:04] <stuartmorgan> pinkerton: isn't that exactly how windows doesn't behave, since there's no distinction between closing the last window and quiting?
[23:59:19] <pinkerton> but if you want it to restore the same 15 windows you had open when you launched, it won't do that
[23:59:37] <stuartmorgan> pinkerton: right, but as you pointed out, you closed them
[23:59:56] <pinkerton> so you want this to restore the last window you closed?





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