[00:00:59] <trungl> is it valid really valid utf16?
[00:01:11] <rsesek> I dunno. supposedly.
[00:01:25] <rsesek> it happily sits inside a string16
[00:01:45] <trungl> that really doesn't say very much
[00:01:55] <rsesek> :(
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[00:02:23] * trungl believes that any null-terminated 16-bit string can sit inside a string16.
[00:02:34] <rsesek> it's originally a WebString that I do string16(webstr) and send over IPC
[00:03:03] * trungl looks up WebString.
[00:03:09] <rsesek> lives in WebCore
[00:03:20] * rsesek lies. lives in chromium webkit api
[00:03:31] <trungl> that's what I figured
[00:04:01] <rsesek> and it has an operator string16()
[00:04:12] <trungl> we can't send string16s over ipc?
[00:04:18] * trungl finds that hard to believe.
[00:04:19] <rsesek> other people have so I did
[00:04:40] <trungl> join any good cargo cults lately?
[00:04:48] <trungl> :P
[00:04:51] <rsesek> :p
[00:05:01] <rsesek> I can convert it to std::string. don't really care
[00:05:06] <rsesek> (though maybe I should?)
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[00:05:48] <rsesek> meh it's not hard to do. will try
[00:06:34] <trungl> that's probably the right thing to do
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[00:07:07] <mirandac_mbp> there is a paramtraits for string16 in ipc_message_utils -- might want to look at that.
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[00:07:29] <rsesek> mirandac_mbp: thx
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[00:07:58] <rsesek> string16 is probably overkill for this, tho
[00:08:18] <trungl> but our default is string16, and converting to utf8 is costly
[00:08:25] <trungl> s/is/should be/
[00:08:28] <rsesek> but it's native utf8 in webcore
[00:08:34] <trungl> oh
[00:08:38] <rsesek> and it's going roundtrip through the IO thread back to another renderer
[00:08:47] <rsesek> so utf8 is good enough?
[00:08:49] <trungl> hrm
[00:08:58] <trungl> then it should go an std::string
[00:09:00] <trungl> I guess
[00:09:01] <rsesek> yea
[00:09:11] * trungl recommends that people not listen to him.
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[00:09:35] <trungl> on a completely unrelated topic, what tool should I use for coming up with a UI mock?
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[00:09:41] <trungl> s/tool/tools/
[00:09:45] <trungl> note that I can't really draw
[00:09:55] <trungl> though pen and paper is tempting
[00:10:01] <rsesek> I like illustrator
[00:10:02] <trungl> it'd be awesomely ugly
[00:10:05] <mirandac_mbp> well, trungl is right about taking the route of least conversions, and trungl should use photoshop, like a real person
[00:10:17] <trungl> illustrator is probably the right tool
[00:10:20] <trungl> alas, me has neither
[00:10:20] <mirandac_mbp> oh, illustrator is better, yes.  well, combined with photoshop.
[00:10:28] <trungl> and is reluctant to obtain copies of such
[00:10:39] <rsesek> photoshop is good for mocking changes to sw that already exists
[00:10:47] <rsesek> illustrator is good for wireframing/prototyping
[00:10:47] <trungl> for very occasional usage
[00:10:52] <trungl> it's all such overkill, really
[00:10:59] <mirandac_mbp> right, so you alter existing icons / etc. in photoshop and assemble in illustrator
[00:11:02] <rsesek> use Acorn or Pixelmator
[00:11:08] <mirandac_mbp> or you draw on a napkin with a bic
[00:11:15] * trungl hates bics
[00:11:22] <rsesek> with a papermate, then
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[00:11:25] <mirandac_mbp> that's why i suggested it
[00:11:29] * trungl should get a fountain pen.
[00:11:45] <trungl> or maybe quill and ink
[00:12:00] <mirandac_mbp> everyone should have a fountain pen.  or a good hunt 56 nib, yes.  that's what i use.
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[00:13:32] * trungl should just come up with good sketches in charcoal.
[00:14:23] <mirandac_mbp> is this for print preview?  yes, make it impressionistic and fuzzy.
[00:14:43] <nickcarter> opening the tree . . .
[00:15:29] <eglaysher> zerg rush kekekekekekeke
[00:16:10] <trungl> wow, erg has finally lost it
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[00:16:27] <trungl> (with the emphasis on "finally"?)
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[00:19:50] <nickcarter> Hmm, still a touch of purple
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[00:23:16] <rsesek> have a good weekend, all
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[00:27:20] <rohitrao> shess: It appears to be imperative that you fix this spacing issue, immediately
[00:27:33] <rohitrao> ( http://crbug.com/41786 )
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[00:28:18] <michaeln> doh! i missed the window!
[00:28:25] * trungl isn't feeling terribly inspired to write a design doc.
[00:28:42] <trungl> but at least I can change the text colour of the few words that I have written
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[00:31:36] * trungl was going to read the news instead, but it turned out to be boring.
[00:32:08] <mirandac_mbp> trungl: now I see why you don't need a twitter feed.  ;-)
[00:32:55] <trungl> why would I want to broadcast my pointless rambling to the world when I have a captive audience here?
[00:33:04] * trungl doesn't even need an audience
[00:34:00] <leiz> wait a minute, why is the chromium linux bot compiling breakpad?!
[00:34:28] <leiz> can someone ping zhurunz at google dot com ?
[00:35:44] <nickcarter> Pinging him
[00:35:59] <nickcarter> reverting in 1 min if no response
[00:36:10] <leiz> hmm, I guess it's always compiled the breakpad test
[00:36:17] <leiz> so that part's ok
[00:37:21] <leiz> ya, he added code that requires libcurl-dev
[00:39:34] <skrul> reverting...
[00:40:10] <leiz> well, that's ok, but we need to install the libcurl dev package on our bots and tell the world we need that package to build now
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[00:47:55] <jparent> victorw: I just checked in a roll to this morning, and i'm getting lots of failures that didn't show up on canaries or try servers.  Can you come assist me?
[00:48:26] <victorw> jparent: looking
[00:48:49] <jparent> victorw: the websockets errors are really strange - Webkit (dbg)(3)
[00:49:11] <jparent> victorw: those resutls were modified with this roll, but it is still getting old results
[00:49:23] <jparent> victorw: http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/59903 is the change
[00:49:37] <jparent> victorw: these ran fine on try servers and on canaries though
[00:52:25] <jparent> victorw: same with drop_link failing on Webkit (dbg)(1).  I don't really understand why these are failing here, and didn't on canaries or try servers
[00:52:27] <leiz> skrul: thx, I commented on the breakpad codereview
[00:53:30] <skrul> leiz: thanks
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[00:55:26] <victorw> jparent: here is the actual output of websocket/tests/handshake-error.html: "CONSOLE MESSAGE: line 0: No response code found: ThisWillCauseHandshakeError..."
[00:57:03] <victorw> jparent: there are more text out than the expectation file: HTTP/1.1 101 Web Socket Protocol Handshake
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[00:58:41] <jparent> victorw: yeah, I see that now too.  Do you know anything about websocket setup?  what would be different here than on canaries/try server?
[00:58:55] <victorw> jparent: no
[00:59:04] <jparent> ukai: yt?
[00:59:58] <akalin> willchan, eroman: ping!
[01:00:19] <willchan> akalin: pong
[01:00:47] <akalin> willchan: what do you think of me adding a Peek() call to net::Socket?
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[01:01:00] <akalin> that would be like Read() except recv(, MSG_PEEK) would be used instead of read(0
[01:01:03] <akalin> read()
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[01:01:55] <willchan> akalin: why?
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[01:02:30] <akalin> willchan: so we were talking earlier about me trying to use chrome sockets to replace libjingle sockets for the xmpp stuff
[01:02:55] <akalin> and that i would use a Read() with a callback that would call Read() again
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[01:03:07] <akalin> it would make my life easier if I could do a Peek() with a callback that would call Peek() again,
[01:03:20] <willchan> why not just read it into a buffer?
[01:03:31] <willchan> i'm very hesitant to add a Peek() API
[01:03:36] <willchan> it's generally considered bad style
[01:03:45] <akalin> really?
[01:04:00] <akalin> adding a buffer is possible, but it's yet another buffer to maintain
[01:04:05] <willchan> akalin: http://tangentsoft.net/wskfaq/articles/lame-list.html#item12
[01:04:12] <willchan> it's on the WinSock lame list
[01:04:29] <akalin> oh
[01:04:33] <akalin> i didn't know about this
[01:04:35] <willchan> microsoft support explicitly says not to do it
[01:04:37] <willchan> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192599
[01:05:19] <akalin> ah
[01:05:31] <willchan> akalin: np, comes with experience in networking.  it's generally ill-advised.  so i'd be hesitant to add it to the general interface.
[01:05:34] <akalin> i just thought about it because i saw a MSG_PEEK call in tcpsocket.h
[01:05:38] <willchan> and am interested in your specific use case
[01:05:41] <akalin> okay
[01:05:45] <akalin> i'll do without it
[01:05:57] <willchan> i'd encourage that.  if you feel like it truly is the best way, ping me again
[01:05:58] <akalin> i guess it's only used in tcp_client_socket for IsConnected()
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[01:08:37] <victorw> jparent: looks like the test failed on win dbg bot has extra debug output message. Maybe it does not fail on try and canary bots because they run release version?
[01:09:00] <jparent> victorw: yeah, I think you are correct.  I'm updating test_expections now, and jsut filled a bug on it.
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[01:24:17] <jparent> maruel, nsylvain: Do you how to make sense of the error here?  http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Webkit%20Builder/builds/29625/steps/compile/logs/stdio
[01:26:19] <jparent> maruel, nsylvain: it looks like an error trying to remove a file that has a filename too long?
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[01:35:10] <victorw> jparent: new baseline landed
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[01:55:58] <Volkodav> Is there a global zoom option like in Opera ?
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[02:04:21] <maruel> jparent: ok will clean
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[02:18:05] <maruel> oops I reset a random slave (jega136)
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[02:27:12] <maruel> jparent: hopefully webkit builder dbg should be fine now
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[02:28:49] <jparent> maruel: thanks!
[02:29:46] <fbarchard> Volkodav: CTRL +  ?
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[02:30:11] <Volkodav> No I mean global set to say 150%
[02:30:58] <Volkodav> for all tabs
[02:31:12] <Volkodav> looks like only Opera can do it
[02:31:50] <Volkodav> there is an extension but it does it too large and can not be tweaked
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[02:32:09] <maruel> Volkodav: see topic
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[02:33:43] <fbarchard> Volkodav: you can file a crbug.com with details of what chromium should do
[02:34:19] <Volkodav> it has been written already
[02:35:05] <leiz> Volkodav: url?
[02:36:10] <Volkodav> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=567
[02:36:28] <Volkodav> http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-bugs/browse_thread/thread/9c11948ff51d5ace
[02:36:52] <thakis> gitties: best way to get the git commit corresponding to an svn revision?
[02:36:53] <Volkodav> dragging from v 4
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[02:37:04] <thakis> Volkodav: don't file
[02:37:18] <Volkodav> of course I will not
[02:37:18] <thakis> medium term, chrome should respect your screen dpi settings
[02:37:22] <thakis> and all will be swell
[02:37:51] <Volkodav> chrome and chromium are not exactly the same I understand
[02:37:59] <maruel> thakis: you can use git log
[02:38:01] <maruel> then /
[02:38:03] <maruel> then type
[02:38:27] <thakis> maruel: i doubt that's the best way :-)
[02:38:28] <maruel> ah maybe not
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[02:39:43] <Volkodav> medium term thakis ?
[02:40:05] <thakis> oh, `git svn find-rev r46560` does it. cute
[02:40:07] <thakis> interwebs ftw
[02:40:19] <thakis> Volkodav: this is the wrong channel for your questions.
[02:40:32] <Volkodav> oh it's OS
[02:40:36] <Volkodav> ma bad
[02:40:50] <Volkodav> where is the browser channel ?
[02:40:52] <thakis> Volkodav: no, "ask user questions <somewhere else>" is in the topic
[02:40:57] <thakis> this is the browser channel
[02:41:00] <thakis> but for dev stuff
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[02:41:46] <thakis> valid questions include "cpu told me about the empty base class optimization; does that mean i should use private inheritance instead of containment?!" and the like
[02:42:00] <maruel> I love your example
[02:42:30] <Volkodav> oh then it should go to  feature request
[02:42:40] <jamesr> jparent: yo
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[02:51:32] <rubenbb> thakis: I use git log --grep=46560
[02:53:00] <thakis> rubenbb: thanks, adding that to my notes too
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[02:54:20] <rubenbb> you might also like git log --author=viettrung
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[02:54:56] <thakis> i'm pretty sure that returns the empty string. that guy's a slacker
[02:55:02] <rubenbb> heh
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[03:12:45] <thakis> rubenbb: i'm now synced to the commit belonging to r 46560. is there a good way to find the commit for 46561 (git log --grep and git svn find-rev both only find stuff where revision's at most 46560, since that's what i'm synced to)?
[03:13:35] <rubenbb> append the branch name you want to search in there, like git log trunk --grep=46561
[03:14:03] * thakis hugs rubenbb
[03:14:11] <rubenbb> :)
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[03:33:51] <nickcarter> oh god, more purple
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[04:07:06] <tripelb> Hello there? the following plugin has crashed /opt/google/chrome/libgcflashplayer.so  (9.10 AMD - this time my computer did not freeze up/hang)
[04:07:23] <tripelb> and I am ignored on #ubuntu
[04:07:35] <tripelb> off-topic
[04:07:46] <thakis> tripelb: we probably got a crash dump from you in that case and will look into it
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[04:30:02] <tripelb> thakis: how do I give you a crash dump?
[04:30:21] <tripelb> my computer has been freezing ever since 9.10 and I think it's flash but no proof
[04:30:22] <thakis> tripelb: chrome automatically sends them if you've checked "send crash reports" in the prefs
[04:30:32] <tripelb> OK will check on that
[04:31:05] <tripelb> I did. I did.
[04:31:17] <tripelb> And so it's not the first time.
[04:31:33] <tripelb> FF has similar issues
[04:32:01] <thakis> i fear we can't help you, then
[04:32:41] <tripelb> thanks /part
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[05:51:26] <chowmeined> why doesnt aero peek just display the 5 most recently used tabs
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[06:04:03] <rubenbb> because that's not enough information for the kind of freaks who use that feature
[06:06:04] <chowmeined> how about having it be an option, the N most recently used tabs
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[08:03:27] <uaa> hi
[08:03:46] <uaa> I've problem with sound not playing with chrome in ogg video
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[08:16:55] <uaa> +v
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[09:21:10] <fbarchard> adding a fix for vorbis encode
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[09:38:01] <uaa> so its a known bug?
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[09:55:57] <rubenbb> uaa: what chromium version?
[10:06:13] <uaa> 4.1.249.1064 (45376)?
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[10:08:40] <remyo> In chrome can you activate bookmarks/bookmarklets with keystrokes?
[10:13:12] <rubenbb> uaa: what os?  that's a really old chrome
[10:13:39] <uaa> I've centos ubuntu and windows
[10:13:48] <uaa> that one from windows
[10:15:39] <uaa> the same from ubuntu version 5.0.342.9
[10:20:02] <uaa> I think the problem is because the play button above the sound icon
[10:20:15] <uaa> it's rtl direction
[10:20:47] <uaa> that is it
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[13:26:29] <ochosi> hey everyone, i'm wondering whether it's possible to change chromium's quit-keyboard-shortcut from ctrl-shift-q to ctrl-q (i really hate when i have to remember different quit shortcuts for different programmes)
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[13:50:14] <remyo> If you have two chrome windows open, is there a keyboard shortcut to jump between them?
[13:52:10] <ochosi> alt-tab? :)
[13:53:13] <remyo> Alt tab will just focus on both chrome windows though, and doesn't always focus on the windows I want
[13:53:54] <remyo> I'm thinking of something like C-w (in vim) with Chrome
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[15:37:44] <RobHu> How do I add a site to the page you get when you go to new tab? I get eight boxes, four of which are empty - I have a site open I want to pin in there. How do I get it to appear?
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[16:54:44] <rubenbb> RobHu: open it a couple times in a tab?
[16:54:53] <RobHu> Yeah, I tried that :S
[16:54:57] <RobHu> I'll try again later. Thanks.
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[16:55:30] <rubenbb> it just picks up your popular sites
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[17:14:49] <Liquid3xb> Hello All
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[18:24:04] <loxs> why chromium refuses to load pages from localhost while my machine is offline? Is there some way to overcome this?
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[20:32:25] <gionnico> hello
[20:32:37] <gionnico> chromium doesn't build with ld error: http://pastebay.com/99920
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[21:23:45] <rubenbb> gionnico: you sure you synced the right webcore for your chromium?
[21:25:48] <gionnico> rubenbb: huh?
[21:25:58] <gionnico> uhm i used a snapshot
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[21:26:22] <gionnico> 6.0.408.1
[21:26:36] <gionnico> webcore is included in chromium tree?
[21:28:36] <rubenbb> which snapshot?  run svn log and get the svn commit number, gionnico
[21:29:26] <rubenbb> latest chromium is 414, so you're a bit behind - http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/console
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[21:30:23] <gionnico> yes a bit behind
[21:30:27] <gionnico> snapshots are daily
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[21:32:15] <gionnico> unlikely that it was fixed .. it took me all day to compile
[21:32:45] <gionnico> i'd like something more reliable before rebuilding and seeing the same error message in 24 hours
[21:32:54] <gionnico> maybe 10 hours but a lot
[21:33:58] <rubenbb> gionnico: what're you building on that it takes so long?  I build on a celeron in 2 hours
[21:34:11] <rubenbb> takes me 20 mins on a xeon quad-core
[21:34:12] <gionnico> celeron-m (pentium3) 910mhz
[21:34:20] <gionnico> 2gb ram
[21:34:30] <gionnico> and also quite a lot of external libs like ffmpeg
[21:34:37] <rubenbb> ok, I have a celeron e1200, which is a core 2 duo microarch
[21:34:43] <gionnico> still.. takes a lot
[21:34:52] <gionnico> much more than firefox+xulrunner
[21:35:40] <rubenbb> maybe you shouldn't be building on such an underpowered cpu? ;)
[21:36:11] <rubenbb> if you just want to continue your current build, check and see if webcore has the right version to sync with chromium
[21:37:07] <gionnico> some flags: -Ddisable_sse2=1 -Duse_system_zlib=1 -Duse_system_bzip2=1 -Duse_system_ffmpeg=1 -Dproprietary_codecs=1 -Duse_system_libevent=1 -Duse_system_libjpeg=1 -Duse_system_libpng=1 -Duse_system_libxml=1 -Duse_system_libxslt=1
[21:37:32] <rubenbb> look in DEPS for the right webkit_version and then run svn log |more on webcore to make sure it's near that
[21:38:07] <rubenbb> I don't believe use_system_ffmpeg works but I'm not sure about that, might have been fixed
[21:38:12] <rubenbb> anyway, that's not your problem
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[21:45:45] <gionnico> about ffmpeg external should be fixed by
[21:46:16] <gionnico> that allows c headers be used in c++ code
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[22:22:11] <do0ob> hi
[22:22:20] <do0ob> how can i make the fonts bigger?
[22:22:43] <do0ob> i'm using linux and the dpi setting seems to be ignored by chrome
[22:23:10] <do0ob> can i force chrome to use a specific zoom setting on every web page?
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[22:35:03] <m0> do0ob: if you set the zoom per page, it should be persisted.
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[22:37:25] <do0ob> m0: its very annoying to zoom every time for all new websites, is there a global zoom setting?
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[22:46:10] <m0> do0ob: as far as I know, there isn't.
[22:49:41] <do0ob> :(
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[23:16:13] <lnostdal_> hm, i notice chrome doesn't zoom images to fit-the-screen anymore?
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[23:48:23] <tripelb> chrome just "vanished" and it's not much comfort to know that it is reporting its failure to HQ. (I'd like to have some notification myself. I'm "on the ground" here.)
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