[00:00:17] <Blockeaux> ah
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[00:00:26] <Blockeaux> that explains quite a bit :P
[00:00:50] <Blockeaux> thanks
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[00:02:49] <thakis> hey, the git repo crossed 1Gb: Receiving objects: 100% (482983/482983), 1.00 GiB | 11.15 MiB/s, done.
[00:05:33] <trungl> By which you really mean, it crossed 1 GiB.
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[00:07:15] <thakis> i thought i shared the bad news in pieces, to make it easier to deal with
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[00:07:51] <thakis> it crossed 1Gb! <wait for all five kuebler-ross phases to pass> 1 GiB as well!
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[00:39:36] <sky__> who is reverting?
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[00:41:34] <willchan> i added code that is not built
[00:41:40] <willchan> should not be built in any case, i'll take a look
[00:41:53] <hagabaka> is it possible to send a HTTP request with fake referer in an extension?
[00:42:06] <willchan> sky__: it's gman
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[00:43:11] <sky__> ok, tx
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[00:54:01] <dcheng> What's an interstitial in Chrome?
[00:54:47] <bauerb> dcheng: the warning you get when you go to a site with a broken ssl certificate, for example
[00:54:57] <dcheng> Ah, thanks.
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[08:03:45] <bevc_work> hi everyone. I'm going to restart the fyi master
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[08:30:11] <phajdan-jr> a big unflakifying change landing :)
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[08:38:40] <phajdan-jr> will be afk for a few minutes, and back after that
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[09:34:30] <phajdan-jr> I'm going to disable some crashy/hangy browser_tests later. I'll be afk for an hour or two. Please do not revert my change, just contact me by e-mail if there is something worrying about the latest CL.
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[10:02:23] <eroman> sweet!
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[10:14:37] <richthegeek> hey, I was wondering if there had been any major advances in Chromium OS since around October - worth doing an update of my rarely used Eee or not, I mean?
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[10:15:23] <richthegeek> maybe it even works on a 7" screen now ....
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[11:44:32] <hbono> I have landed a typo fix for valgrind errors. Sorry for your inconvenience.
[11:45:44] <phajdan-jr> fix in
[11:46:00] <phajdan-jr> hbono: np, looks like for now I'm inflicting the most damage. ;)
[11:46:11] <phajdan-jr> but long-term it should be helpful
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[11:55:42] <phajdan-jr> I've logged a bug to make failure like the last one less likely in the future: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44549
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[12:47:25] <phajdan-jr> tree open :)
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[13:56:22] <amruthraj> Hi, What is the difference between the cache maintained by the browser process(in web_cache_manager) and the cache maintained by the webkit(WebCore/loader/Cache.cpp)
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[14:13:35] <BUGabundo_remote> good afternoon
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[15:00:32] <maruel> amruthraj: one is renderer-local
[15:01:15] <cbentzel> Does anyone have a problem with me marking TestAboutChromeViewAccObj as FLAKY? It's been failing vista/xp browser tests since last night.
[15:01:32] <cbentzel> Also, I saw a FAILED prefix on one of the tests (TestChromeWindowAccObj)
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[15:01:45] <cbentzel> is FAILED a legitimate prefix? I've only seen DISABLED and FLAKY
[15:02:30] <rsesek> cbentzel: I think someone sent something to cr-dev about a FAILS prefix
[15:03:18] <cbentzel> Ah - I'll rename from FAILED to FAILS - I see it
[15:03:22] <cbentzel> Thanks rsesek
[15:03:28] <rsesek> np
[15:04:35] <thomasvl> rebooting on mac
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[15:07:38] <thomasvl> s/on/one/
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[15:18:39] <cbentzel> mac buildbot failure is due to reboot, right?
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[15:35:26] <rsesek> thomasvl: Mac Valgrind CL to you
[15:35:40] <thomasvl> k
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[15:39:04] <tbassetto> hi guys. is that me or 1) navigator.onLine is always true on Chromium and 2) therefore the files indicated in the cache.manifest file are not used even if we are really offline and the "classic" cache is empty ?
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[16:06:08] <BUGabundo_remote> is there and IRC channel for IO?
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[16:08:07] <rsesek> is there an ETA on the tree?
[16:11:55] <cbentzel> rsesek: Probably can reopen soon but still trying to understand the 10.5 failure. Sorry, this is my first time sheriffing so I'm probably going to be overly conservative.
[16:12:31] <rsesek> cbentzel: ah okay; didn't realize you were sheriff :). I've got a suppression for Mac Valgrind
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[16:16:16] <robertshield> good morning #chromium
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[16:16:31] <malavv> Morning
[16:17:10] <malavv> Currently, exponential backoff module is implemented at the url_fetcher level
[16:17:25] <malavv> Should'nt it be implemented at network transaction level?<
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[16:21:40] <rjkroege> cbentzel: I am also sherrif, am 2nd time sherif but probably know no more than you
[16:22:49] <cbentzel> rsesek: Reopened tree
[16:22:53] <rsesek> thanks
[16:24:18] <robertshield> cbentzel, rjkroege: I'm sherrifing today as well, not a pro either
[16:24:35] <robertshield> I'll look at marking that failing Vista test as flaky
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[16:25:03] <cbentzel> robertshield: I took care of that already
[16:25:13] <rjkroege> cbentzel: robertshield: are we sure that the tree should be open? linux compile is failing
[16:25:19] <cbentzel> robershield: r47657
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[16:26:03] <cbentzel> rjkroege: Ehh? I don't see linux compile failure? Where?
[16:26:34] <rjkroege> cbentzel: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Linux%20Builder%20x64/builds/2667
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[16:26:43] <rjkroege> or am I reading really old email
[16:26:46] <cbentzel> There was also a reliability failure but the two CLs involved in the blamelist were a valgrind supression and a valgrind_test.py change.
[16:27:18] <cbentzel> So if one of us can investigate would be good, but I don't think either of the CLs were the cause of the failure.
[16:28:59] <robertshield> cbentzel: I'll take a look to see if anything around webcore::htmlparser has changed recently that would cause the reliability regression
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[16:29:48] <cousteau> I'm on ubuntu lucid, trying to get java working on chromium
[16:30:13] <cousteau> anybody was able to make openjdk icedtea plugin work on chromium?
[16:30:44] <rsesek> robertshield: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44064 for htmlparser
[16:31:19] <cousteau> there's a broken link on /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins that points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaNPPlugin.so
[16:32:25] <cousteau> I tried creating another symlink removing the "NPP", and also putting it on /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins, but nothing works
[16:33:11] <maruel> cousteau: see topic
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[16:34:06] <cousteau> already did, but misinterpreted it... thought it said this was the user channel and the dev channel was another one, sorry
[16:34:30] <cbentzel> rsesek: updated the bug, thanks
[16:35:00] <cousteau> (it actually has to do with support since it could be a bug...)
[16:35:03] <evmar> cousteau: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=20087
[16:35:51] <rjkroege> cbentzel: robertshield: no worries on linux build -- was fixed
[16:35:59] <robertshield> ok
[16:36:05] <evmar> cousteau: comment 32 seems to be the critical one
[16:36:36] <evmar> cousteau: actually comment 8
[16:36:51] <evmar> cousteau: man, i hate it when people spam the bug tracker with "it doesn't work for me either", makes it hard to find the real info on there :(
[16:38:37] <cousteau> forums and bug trackers should allow users to select the nature of the post (agreement, disagreement, suggestion, solution, extra info...)
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[16:39:12] <cousteau> does sun jre work, or it doesn't either?
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[16:40:40] <trungl> 'morning, Chromium.
[16:40:45] <rsesek> morning, trungl
[16:41:12] <trungl> does anyone know if we have a WebKit revision to Chromium revision converter anywhere?
[16:41:27] <rsesek> DEPS? :p
[16:41:59] <evmar> cousteau: sun works
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[16:42:08] <evmar> cousteau: http://dbhole.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/icedtea-1-8-released-with-new-np-plugin/ sounds like 1.8 might work
[16:42:11] <cousteau> installing it then
[16:42:32] <evmar> my understanding is that icedtea 1.6 depending on ffox specific stuff
[16:42:37] <evmar> *depended
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[16:46:57] <thakis> morning, robertshield, malavv, rest of chromium
[16:47:39] <robertshield> good morning
[16:49:51] <cbentzel> So, I expected r47657 to cycle the vista tests green (it marked a failing browser test in Vista with FAILS_).
[16:50:10] <cbentzel> The buildbot marks browser_tests as a failure even though the only failing tests are two with FAILS_ prefix and one with FLAKY_ prefix.
[16:52:59] <cbentzel> Oops, discovered the issue. Thanks phadjan
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[16:53:16] <malavv> morning
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[16:53:38] <robertshield> cbentzel: what was wrong?
[16:53:50] <cbentzel> A FLAKY_ test was crashy
[16:54:13] <cbentzel> I thought it was mis-ignoring FAILS_ problems.
[16:54:21] <cbentzel> I'll take care of disabling it.
[16:54:52] <robertshield> ok
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[16:58:24] <robertshield> the xp perf builder seems to flap between red and green quite a bit
[17:00:29] <evmar> question.  person comments as comment #20 in a linux-specific bug with a ramble about safari behavior and how it'd be nice if chrome did [x] where [x] is in fact exactly what chrome does.  (a) this person is confused; (b) i am confused; (c) this person is trolling; (d) i am trolling
[17:00:34] <evmar> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=16709#c20
[17:01:26] <maruel> evmar: (a)
[17:02:03] <maruel> or (e) maybe he's using a very old version that doesn't auto updated
[17:02:09] <maruel> update*
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[17:04:57] <cbentzel> robertshield: Yes, XP perf is cycling. I thought it was fishy when it had perf regression with evanm's _posix.cc only change.
[17:06:12] <cousteau> ok, I almost freeze chromium (I'm on a netbook) but java works
[17:06:40] <cousteau> thanks! and sorry for asking support-ish questions here
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[17:19:27] <thakis> evmar: safari has a pref if tab only goes through form controls or through links too
[17:19:35] <thakis> evmar: that person doesn't want tab to focus links i thing
[17:19:38] <thakis> *think
[17:24:29] <rsesek> thakis, evmar: Ben&Glen only wanted that checkbox on Mac (CL to pink for review now). I emailed them this morning asking if I could add it to all platforms
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[17:26:48] <cbentzel> Ha, all three sherrifs are on eastern time zone today.
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[17:29:17] <robertshield> cbentzel: nice.. a late night ahead
[17:30:51] <robertshield> I'm looking into that ChromeOS test failure.. seems like at least one of the other dev tools tests is marked flaky on ChromeOS
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[17:32:24] <evmar> rsesek: which checkbox?
[17:32:53] <rsesek> evmar: crbug.com/31177 checkbox
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[17:37:09] <evmar> heh, i wish "all browsers on linux have an option for this" ever won any arguments
[17:37:35] <rsesek> I think it's a pretty sensible option to add, for a11y
[17:38:00] <rsesek> FF, Safari, and Camino all have the option
[17:39:53] <evmar> our user expectations are set by ff (aka, "the only browser on linux that has any users"), but that doesn't mean we get to add any checkboxes
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[17:47:48] <robertshield> cbentzel: is ExtensionAPITest.FLAKY_Storage in http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Linux%20x64/builds/8280/steps/browser_tests/logs/stdio another example of a flaky test that crashes?
[17:48:06] <robertshield> e.g. should I mark it as FAILS?
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[17:53:03] <cbentzel> robertshield: It times out. I updated the bug. It's sporadic, so I don't know if FAILS is appropriate.
[17:53:39] <robertshield> ok
[17:54:16] <cbentzel> Bug 42943 covers it. If it comes up again it probably makes sense to mark as FAILS_
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[18:03:46] <moblin_> what are the chances someone here can tell the google io streaming person to turn up the volume on the live stream!! :)
[18:03:57] <moblin_> it's very quiet
[18:04:19] <rohitrao> yeah, seriously
[18:04:59] <wjmaclean> OK, here's a question: anyone know how to make chromium with the '-rdynamic' flag passed to the linker?
[18:06:48] <robertshield> reverting r47670 - it breaks ChromeOS
[18:06:51] <wjmaclean> I've tried: make chrome CFLAGS='-rdynamic' CXXFLAGS='-rdynamic' LDFLAGS='-rdynamic'
[18:07:14] <markmentovai> pinkerton: yo
[18:07:19] <pinkerton> yo
[18:07:24] <markmentovai> nib something?
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[18:07:43] <pinkerton> yah wanna do a quick vc? or just a group gchat?
[18:08:04] <markmentovai> call my bridge, we'll find a room
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[18:08:10] <pinkerton> ok let me ping tvl
[18:08:13] <markmentovai> k
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[18:22:28] <moblin_> nice
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[18:24:32] <rsesek> thomasvl: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/IB_UserGuide/BuildingaNibFile/BuildingaNibFile.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40005344-CH11-SW15
[18:25:10] <moblin_> is this in the latest chromium build already?
[18:25:13] <thomasvl> rsesek: yup, found that
[18:25:18] <rsesek> cool
[18:25:19] <moblin_> website only says today
[18:25:30] <moblin_> webm i mean
[18:26:57] <shess> cbentzel, rjkroege, robertshield: I just committed r47674 which makes a change to memory allocation on Mac.  It passed all the trybots, including valgrind, but I wouldn't be surprised if it makes something red.  I'll be watching the waterfall, but feel free to revert for any reason.
[18:27:16] <cbentzel> shess: Thanks for the heads up
[18:27:23] <shess> np
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[18:29:05] <cbentzel> rjkroege, robertshield: I updated bug 42318 with FLAKY_BlockBadURLs stack trace. If it occurs again I'll disable it.
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[18:36:59] <atwilson> The picnik team is reporting an issue with clicks in flash that result in popups erroneously resulting in the popup blocker being activated (click -> flash -> js -> popup).
[18:37:23] <atwilson> This is apparently new in 5.0 - we can just log a bug for this, but I'm wondering who is the right person who knows about this area. Anyone?
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[18:40:42] <hc1> hi, anyone know when VP8 decoding will be in Chromium?
[18:41:01] <moblin_> today
[18:41:03] <hc1> http://www.webmproject.org/users/ says "Chromium tip/nightly trunk build beginning May 19, 2010" but I can't get it to work with Youtube
[18:41:16] <hc1> and i got the latest Chromium build
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[18:42:45] <awong_afk> hc1: I'm guessing you followed all the instructions on http://www.webmproject.org/users/ including adding &webm=1 to the URL?
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[18:42:56] <hc1> yes
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[18:43:02] <hc1> go to html5 page
[18:43:04] <awong> hrm. don't know then...
[18:43:05] <hc1> join html5 beta
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[18:43:13] <hc1> add &webm=1
[18:43:15] <hc1> doesn't work
[18:43:20] <hc1> 6.0.410.0 (Developer Build 47666)
[18:43:27] <hc1> latest build available atm
[18:43:29] <awong> hc1: which OS?
[18:43:33] <hc1> Windows
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[18:44:24] <dglazkov> good morning, Chromium!
[18:44:52] <thakis> morning, dglazkov!
[18:44:58] <awong> hc1: I can't locate a windows box to test on. :(
[18:45:03] <awong> dglazkov: morning!
[18:45:09] <hc1> maybe I'm not getting a right video
[18:45:16] <hc1> anyone know a WebM video on youtube?
[18:45:53] <maruel> hc1: it's really a user support question, see topic
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[18:50:40] <phitaugamma> hey guys, is vp8 supposed to work now in chromium ?
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[18:51:23] <phitaugamma> downloaded 47667 for linux 64 bits and youtube says it can't recognise any supported video formats
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[18:51:54] <maruel> phitaugamma: wait. See topic
[18:52:27] <phitaugamma> empathy doesn't support topics :\
[18:52:38] <thakis> phitaugamma: it's supposed to be supported
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[18:53:20] <maruel> thakis: not for chromium builds
[18:53:52] <hc1> then why the webm project page says it's supported in Chromium?
[18:54:40] <moblin_> it's only 10am or so in california
[18:54:42] <thakis> maruel: http://www.webmproject.org/users/ claims that it works in chromium
[18:54:51] <maruel> thakis: see moblin_ comment
[18:55:26] <awong> it'll be up soon
[18:55:34] <thakis> ok, maybe my interpretation of "available now" was naive :-)
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[18:55:46] <awong> thakis: race condition :-/
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[18:56:55] <phitaugamma> ok, thanks:)
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[19:01:27] <moblin_> are extensions allowed on the chrome webstore?
[19:01:57] <moblin_> i mean to modify it, not as a product
[19:03:16] <thakis> moblin_: dunno, but i'd think so
[19:03:26] <thakis> it's just a web page after all
[19:03:51] <maruel> moblin_: yes IIRC
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[19:19:03] <rohan> the chromium snapshots present in the directory "http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/47673/" are just source, or are binary builds also available?
[19:19:46] <awong> rohan: the .zip there is a binary.  If you're looking to play with webm though...I think you'll want to check back later.
[19:20:25] <rohan> awong: oops i thought the zip is just source..
[19:20:52] <rohan> and yes i was looking to play with webm. so any idea after which revision will webm be enabled?
[19:20:55] <rohan> is it enabled for xp?
[19:21:58] <awong> rohan: I don't have the details...but I'm pretty certain it will be at least a couple of hours if not longer.  Check in the afternoon?
[19:22:34] <hc1> rohan not as of the latest build available
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[19:22:45] <hc1> I can't get it work, have to wait a few more hours
[19:22:56] <steven_t> are there any bugs/issues to make the custom menus sexier?
[19:23:24] <steven_t> ie, rounded corners, sexier highlight indication (maybe gradient? maybe with rounded rects?)
[19:23:34] <fbarchard> rohan: try grabbing the git source from http://www.webmproject.org/code/
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[19:23:47] <maruel> steven_t: rohan: see topic
[19:24:00] <steven_t> o
[19:24:18] <steven_t> which part?
[19:24:28] <maruel> user questions
[19:24:31] <steven_t> id love to sexify the custom menus, if anyone wants to help me actually build chromium later on
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[19:24:47] <maruel> please try building first
[19:24:55] <maruel> the doc is at http://dev.chromium.org
[19:24:56] <steven_t> good point
[19:24:59] <steven_t> thanks
[19:25:04] <maruel> have fun :)
[19:25:33] <maruel> steven_t: I recommend you to browse the sources and grep into it to find the menu classes
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[19:26:00] <thakis> steven_t: jrg did most of the menu stuff, talk to him maybe
[19:26:13] <thakis> (once you're done building)
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[19:30:34] <bhearsum> anyone here who can put me in contact with someone that can update http://www.webmproject.org/users/? the links to the Firefox builds are wrong
[19:31:00] <malavv> I need to check at how Extension are implemented in chromium. Is looking at source code my best option or are they design docs for that? I`m not looking for documentation about extension api.
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[19:32:41] <stuartmorgan> bhearsum: try the mailing list linked from that page?
[19:32:49] <maruel> malavv: there's some doc on dev.chromium.org but you'll have to look at the code
[19:32:56] <bhearsum> stuartmorgan: i'll give that a try
[19:33:40] <malavv> maruel: k, k thanks
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[19:38:43] <jrg> steven_t: got lots of sexy Mac menu bugs if you want them
[19:39:29] <steven_t> id love to help with that, but higher priority on my list is sexifying the menus
[19:40:37] <steven_t> what kind of bugs?
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[19:42:15] <jrg> steven_t: all kinds.
[19:42:32] <jrg> steven_t: specifically, I've got lots of "sexifying menus" bugs if you want some
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[19:42:38] <pcgod> atwilson: js popups -> popup blocker from flash is http://crbug.com/43811
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[19:42:59] <steven_t> i cant think of any difficult spots in writing a custom menu stuff
[19:43:08] <steven_t> granted i havent tried it yet ;)
[19:43:09] <atwilson_> thx
[19:43:34] <jrg> ok
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[19:44:08] <steven_t> but id love to take al ook at your implmenetation and see how it compares to the quickly imagined implmenetation i have in my head suddenly
[19:44:35] <steven_t> wow i msityped that the exact same way twice
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[19:47:06] <steven_t> as usual, im coming across completely wrong. thats my cue to exit
[19:47:50] <dmazzoni> anyone around to review a tiny chromium-only webkit patch? (i'm not having any luck on #webkit) https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39238
[19:48:25] <rohan> awong, hc1, fbarchard : thank you
[19:48:56] <jrg> steven_t: feel free to browse, fix things, refactor, et al.
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[19:49:50] <rohan> fbarchard: the code there is not for chromium right
[19:50:20] <awong> rohan: It'll be checked in soon. IT's not there yet.
[19:50:45] <rohan> awong: thank you.. i'll just wait then.
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[19:52:02] <rohan> would it be possible to update the topic of this channel once the chromium revision with webm is up? i am sure most people are eager for it :)
[19:53:06] <scherkus_> rohan: working on it
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[19:53:56] <rohan> hehe.. not exactly what i was looking for, but serves the purpose ;)
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[19:54:50] <thakis> dmazzoni: the webkit review process is kinda weird. i have a tiny patch that hasn't been reviewed in close to a week
[19:57:19] <willchan> maruel: ping
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[19:57:36] <maruel> willchan: pong
[19:58:27] <willchan> maruel: i'm trying to add a symlink to svn as i discussed with you yesterday.  i have 2 symlinks i'd like to do this for.  the one that points to a file works fine.  the one that points to a directory does not.
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[19:58:43] <willchan> maruel: specially, i can add the directory symlink to the changelist via gcl change
[19:58:44] <maruel> willchan: no idea, never done that
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[19:58:54] <willchan> maruel: but gcl upload removes it from my changelist
[19:58:55] <maruel> 99% sure gcl will barf
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[19:59:39] <willchan> maruel: is there something i can do?  or should i just do a deep copy of the dir into the new location?
[20:00:14] <maruel> willchan: don't use gcl for that change
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[20:01:08] <willchan> maruel: well, it becomes a pain to review.  i guess i'll just mention the symlink in the review.
[20:01:21] <willchan> and then svn commit to land it?
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[20:03:10] <maruel> yes
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[20:05:56] <willchan> ok, thanks
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[20:15:30] <pinkerton> willchan: there was a great (inadvertent) demo of mac chrome's transparent network interface switching at google i/o when they couldn't get wifi working :)
[20:15:36] <pinkerton> willchan: good job!
[20:15:44] <markmentovai> :)
[20:16:13] <willchan> :P
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[20:16:25] <pinkerton> i was being serious :(
[20:16:37] <jamesr> of course they couldn't get wifi working, it's at moscone
[20:16:38] <willchan> :)
[20:19:04] <rjkroege> davemoore: you have a recent change (http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=47682) that might have broken the arm build?
[20:19:16] <rjkroege> or have I badly misread the waterfall?
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[20:50:19] <ojan> fishd: ping
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[21:00:29] <malavv> Can we be sure that "void ResourceDispatcherHost::BeginRequestInternal(URLRequest* request);" is on the I/O thread? because it does'nt do any check
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[21:02:47] <willchan> it should be on the IO thread
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[21:05:50] <malavv> willchan: k, k
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[21:07:49] <rsesek> is there any documentation about NavigationController?
[21:08:09] <rsesek> specifically how it fits in with the bigger picture of Browser and TabContents?
[21:09:30] <robertshield> sanjeevr: ping
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[21:09:57] <DarkriftX> anyone know whats up with webm support in chrome?
[21:10:20] <DarkriftX> they say wont be supported till the 20th except in nigthly builds starting tonight, but I can already play them on youtube
[21:11:16] <awong> DarkriftX: please see the channel topic.
[21:11:28] <DarkriftX> ahhh
[21:11:35] <DarkriftX> has it always been that way?
[21:11:40] <awong> yes...
[21:11:43] <DarkriftX> sorry
[21:11:46] <awong> np
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[21:21:39] <akalin> greetings, chromiumites
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[21:22:23] <malavv> good afternoon akalin
[21:22:47] <jamesr> bots be trippin' yo
[21:24:45] <fishd> ojan: pong
[21:25:24] <akalin> how can the linux bots drink
[21:25:27] <akalin> ...without CUPS??
[21:25:43] <Ke> !
[21:25:44] <robertshield> there was a CUPS related change that requires an update to all the linux bots, closed the tree in the meantime
[21:25:57] <maruel> robertshield: fixed at least one slave
[21:26:13] <maruel> fixing update scripts too
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[21:27:18] <cbentzel> Can any tsan knowledgeable people take a quick look at http://crbug.com/44580?
[21:27:40] <cbentzel> It looks like suppressions.txt should have supressed the problem to me (it's a benign race in GetCurrentThreadIdentifier())
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[21:28:42] <cbentzel> And it's been tripping all day in ExtensionUpdaterTest.TestMultipleManifestDownloading
[21:28:59] <thakis> evmar_vacation: piman_: when i'm writing a simple npapi plugin, is it better for chrome/linux to make it windowed & xembedded or windowless?
[21:29:22] <willchan> my own build is broken on the CUPS stuff
[21:29:29] <willchan> am i supposed to run install-build-deps?
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[21:35:15] <stuartmorgan> thakis: I would think the default plugin should be windowless
[21:35:22] <stuartmorgan> thakis: windowed plugins don't layer with HTML
[21:35:32] <thakis> stuartmorgan: ok
[21:35:47] <stuartmorgan> We don't want "missing plugin" to obscure DHTML menus
[21:36:34] <thakis> (in practice, most sites that use dhtml menus and plugins probably use an iframe shim to make this work)
[21:36:54] <stuartmorgan> thakis: huh?
[21:36:55] <cbentzel> Ah, timur came back online on a white horse and saved the day.
[21:37:20] <akalin> white horrrrrrse
[21:37:51] <thakis> stuartmorgan: confused us with ie, nvm :-P
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[21:43:14] <ojan> fishd: are there naming rules for enums in WebKit api?
[21:43:25] <maruel> willchan: yes
[21:43:31] <ojan> fishd: some enums match the webcore name and some rearrange them
[21:44:07] <fishd> ojan: well, in general we try to scope them
[21:44:28] <fishd> ojan: if the enum type is Foo, then the enum values should be FooBar
[21:45:01] <ojan> fishd: in this case, WebCore::EditingMacBehavior
[21:45:12] <ojan> fishd: shoudl that be EditingBehaviorMac?
[21:45:17] <fishd> yeah, i like the renaming
[21:45:26] <fishd> the enum is EditingBehavior right?
[21:45:34] <fishd> EditingBehavior{Mac,Windows}
[21:45:50] <fishd> or EditingBehavior{Mac,Win} <- why abbreviate mac but not win?
[21:46:19] <fishd> ojan: sometimes it is nice to use the same names as WebCore, but keep in mind that WebCore names also frequently change.
[21:46:34] <fishd> ojan: so i like to stick with the scoping rule so that at least the webkit api will have some consistency
[21:47:59] <ojan> fishd: ok
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[21:53:54] <thakis> stuartmorgan: after reading some more docs, it seems that it might be hard to show actual gtk widgets with a windowless plugin. for v1 (just replace the "Missing Plugin" string), that's not a problem, but for the real default plugin it might be
[21:54:03] <thakis> (on windows, default_plugin is windowed too)
[21:54:17] <stuartmorgan> huh. okay
[21:54:37] <stuartmorgan> That seems suboptimal
[21:55:06] <stuartmorgan> I guess you aren't allowed to not install plugins and still use pages :P
[21:58:26] <stuartmorgan> thakis: since you've read this code now: do you know why it's a plugin?
[21:58:58] <malavv> Someone know where is the source for the page about:net-internals? I have found net_internals_ui.cc but I am searching for the html page
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[21:59:27] <willchan> chrome/browser/resources/net_internals
[21:59:52] <malavv> willchan: Thank you
[22:00:01] <thakis> stuartmorgan: i guess it was easy to do that way, and it's also what Ff did
[22:00:32] <stuartmorgan> thakis: they don't any more
[22:00:49] <stuartmorgan> And here we are, writing the UI and guts three times
[22:01:43] <thakis> how'd you do it? parts of it need to be in webkit, parts in the browser otherwise
[22:02:00] <thakis> you'd still have the ui three times (like with the rest of the ui)
[22:02:12] <thakis> and the guts can be shared either way
[22:04:36] <stuartmorgan> Hm, apparently they use a XUL overlay; I guess we don't have anything comparable
[22:06:34] <phitaugamma> linux builds still failing? :(
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[22:10:36] <thakis> does nacl_ui_tests usually succeed on the trybots? which xcodeproj file is that in?
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[22:11:07] <thakis> chrome.xcodeproj, i'm just blind
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[22:20:43] <fta> scherkus, you landed your patches as .diff instead of .patch like all the other patches :(
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[22:27:38] <scherkus> fta: whoops!
[22:27:44] <scherkus> I'll correct that right awa
[22:27:46] <scherkus> away*
[22:28:08] <fta> scherkus, thanks
[22:31:00] <scherkus> fta: done as r47718
[22:32:26] <fta> scherkus, great, i just need to figure out how i will build that thing now (/wrt the new lib).. since i build the codecs alone, and the lib comes with the browser
[22:33:51] <jamesr> fta: are you building webm support in with the ubuntu ppa?
[22:34:05] <fta> jamesr, that's the plan
[22:34:11] <jamesr> cool :)
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[22:37:22] <scherkus> fta: you need to wait for my mega-patch-of-doom
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[22:37:34] <scherkus> fta: it's not compiling on mac at the moment :(
[22:37:58] <scherkus> http://codereview.chromium.org/2093007/show
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[22:40:26] <fta> great, we already a system libvpx 0.9.0
[22:40:55] <fta> scherkus, ^^, but i guess there's no gyp flag for that yep, right?
[22:41:02] <fta> yet
[22:41:06] <scherkus> fta: it'll be a little screwy when we check it in
[22:41:17] <scherkus> it's not compiling from source yet
[22:41:22] <scherkus> and we're not using pkg-config either
[22:41:27] <scherkus> but that's next
[22:41:29] <scherkus> sorry :(
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[22:41:44] <scherkus> but we can add in a use_system_libvpx
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[22:44:43] <fta> scherkus, here is what i have in the system lib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/436391/  (indeed, no .pc file)
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[22:45:18] <sid_> Hey is there a channel for chrome extensions?
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[22:45:43] <stuartmorgan> sid_: no, but there's a mailing list
[22:45:51] <sid_> I wanted to ask if we could tweak the Oauth API for contacting the dropbox API...
[22:46:13] <sid_> IS any one aware that that has been done
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[22:46:15] <sid_> ?
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[22:49:47] <fta> scherkus, will chromium follow random snapshots of this lib or releases? (please say releases, pleaaaaase)
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[22:50:27] <scherkus> fta: not sure, but good question!
[22:51:13] <robertshield> huh.. there are three new crash stack traces in the reliability tests, but two of them seem to be lacking symbols. weird.
[22:52:58] <fta> scherkus, ubuntu/debian will also use that lib in ffmpeg, gstreamer, firefox, mplayer and probably more, would be nice if chromium could use the same lib
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[22:58:55] <piman_> thakis: windowed+xembed is better perf and less confusing, but it's a bit more work.
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[23:02:41] <thakis> stuartmorgan: i have a bunch of "(null)" rows in activity monitor when i filter for "chromium". is that interesting?
[23:02:46] <thakis> piman_: thanks
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[23:03:28] <stuartmorgan> thomasvl: ^^^
[23:03:37] <markmentovai> thakis: stuartmorgan, thomasvl too. (null) for the process name?
[23:03:46] <thakis> yes
[23:03:52] <markmentovai> 10.5 or 10.6?
[23:03:54] <thakis> 10.5
[23:03:58] <markmentovai> and chrome version?
[23:03:59] <thomasvl> what does raw ps say also?
[23:04:03] <thakis> dev channel
[23:04:18] <markmentovai> so, 6.0.401.1. check ps (as thomasvl says)
[23:04:32] <thakis> $ ps aux | grep Chromium
[23:04:33] <thakis> thakis   25280   0.0  0.0    75532    460 s001  R+    2:04PM   0:00.00 grep Chromium
[23:04:49] <thakis> (which is correct, since chromium isn't running atm)
[23:05:09] <markmentovai> don't make me banish you :)
[23:05:44] <rsesek> pinkerton: my CL is ready again (Mark resaved the XIB on 10.5) ? does the LG hold?
[23:06:02] <thakis> this is the same for ps aux | grep Chrome: http://codepad.org/m2iF9zdd
[23:06:08] <thakis> which shows a few null lines too
[23:06:10] <pinkerton> rsesek: let me look at the nib
[23:06:13] <rsesek> k
[23:06:51] <thakis> pid 27191 is a (null) line in activity monitor for example
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[23:07:48] <thakis> pid 24852 is the other (null) line
[23:08:06] <thakis> the other processes display fine in activity monitor
[23:08:34] <pinkerton> rsesek: lg
[23:08:42] <rsesek> pinkerton: thx
[23:09:47] <stuartmorgan> thakis: are these zombies?
[23:10:29] <markmentovai> they're not based on his ps output
[23:10:41] <thakis> stuartmorgan: no
[23:10:43] <markmentovai> (has anyone seen a zombie lately? no? good.)
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[23:11:00] <thakis> one of them is R, the other S
[23:11:27] <stuartmorgan> The process naming code doesn't affect ps, so whatever this is is something else
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[23:12:05] <thakis> i mean the run states are R and S (i.e. not Z)
[23:15:05] <stuartmorgan> Oh, I misread your earlier comment and thought you were saying they listed null in ps
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[23:32:45] <thakis> hooray for echelog-1 and evmar_vacation!
[23:33:24] <trungl> but why not echelog_vacation?
[23:33:32] <trungl> and evmar-1?
[23:33:43] <thakis> echelog-1 doesn't have 30 days of vacation accrued yet
[23:33:43] <echelog-1> thakis: Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command.
[23:33:51] <thakis> echelog-1: yes it is
[23:33:51] <echelog-1> thakis: Error: "yes" is not a valid command.
[23:33:57] <thakis> echelog-1: yes it is
[23:33:57] <echelog-1> thakis: Error: "yes" is not a valid command.
[23:34:02] <thakis> echelog-1: yes it is
[23:34:02] <echelog-1> thakis: Error: "yes" is not a valid command.
[23:34:09] <trungl> echelog-1: is too
[23:34:09] <echelog-1> trungl: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
[23:34:14] <thakis> where's thakis_bot when you need him?
[23:34:39] <trungl> he (it?) is presumably in the thakis_bot_vacation state
[23:34:47] <trungl> equal rights for bots!
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[23:38:19] <akalin> urgh
[23:38:30] <akalin> implicit bool <-> pointer conversion screws me again
[23:38:52] <akalin> never have a one-arg bool constructor and a one-arg pointer constructor for a class :(
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[23:38:56] <akalin> accident waiting to happen
[23:40:31] <robertshield> cbentzel: rjkroege: must start the commute, will be back in a couple of hours. good luck.
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[23:44:55] <jamesr> akalin: d'oh
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[23:45:19] <jamesr> echelog-1: your_mom
[23:45:19] <echelog-1> jamesr: Error: "your_mom" is not a valid command.
[23:45:28] <thakis> trungl: the thing at the left at http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/mac-release-10.5/startup/report.html?history=1500&header=&rev=-1 looks like your shutdown patch. is this just a measurement artifact?
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[23:45:54] <trungl> thakis: it's a tests-are-messed-up issue
[23:46:02] <thakis> (and why does startup show shutdown times?)
[23:46:07] <thakis> (where are the startup times now?)
[23:46:13] <trungl> those are shutdown tests, clearly
[23:46:21] <trungl> click somewhere along the bottom
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[23:46:31] <trungl> where bottom := top
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[23:46:55] <trungl> (warm or cold, that is)
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[23:47:16] <thakis> ah
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[23:47:43] <trungl> hmmm, are they ski jumps?
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[23:49:03] <thakis> :-)
[23:51:59] <thakis> hey, did i just break the build
[23:52:00] <thakis> ?
[23:52:02] <thakis> great
[23:53:56] <thakis> cbentzel, rjkroege, robertshield: i think i broke nacl_ui_tests on mac. reverting?
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[23:56:25] <malavv> What file should I include to access IDS_ABOUT_VERSION_OFFICIAL ?, its says resource_bundle.h but the other class that have this constant does not include it
[23:56:43] <markmentovai> probably it gets it indirectly
[23:57:12] <malavv> k, k so ressource_bundle.h is what I need?
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[23:58:32] <cbentzel> thakis: thanks
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