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[00:39:32] <Limbero> I can't find this in the Chrome Issue thingamajo, is it a bug in Chrome that causes the issue that when you click "Watch on Youtube" on an embedded youtube video it loads the video in the background of your current tab and you don
[00:39:41] <Limbero> 't actually get to the youtube page
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[00:53:42] <pcgod> Limbero: it's blocked by the popup blocker (and is broken since last weeks dev channel)
[00:53:51] <Limbero> okay
[00:54:11] <Limbero> is there a way to filter it in the popup blocker?
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[00:56:11] <Limbero> in the popup blocker settings:
[00:56:13] <Limbero> *
[00:58:25] <thakis_> pcgod: bug # ?
[00:58:29] <Limbero> fixed it myself
[00:59:21] <pcgod> thakis: I don't know if there is a bug for that
[00:59:25] <Limbero> fixed might be an overstatement
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[01:00:01] <Limbero> hmph, I found it
[01:00:13] <Limbero> not open keywords enough when I last searched
[01:00:38] <Limbero> Issue 43811
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[01:18:35] <thakis_> i know plugin loading!
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[04:08:13] <rubenbb1> hmm, can someone who builds on linux run the following command for me? grep -i "local/include " base/base_i18n*mk
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[04:11:58] <pcgod> rubenbb1: no output?
[04:12:11] <rubenbb1> pcgod: thanks, that's what I need to know :)
[04:15:10] <rubenbb1> on freebsd, it has the line -I/usr/local/include \
[04:15:20] <rubenbb1> which is getting pulled in somewhere, I need to hunt that down
[04:16:04] <rubenbb1> pcgod: you do have a base/base_i18n.target.mk, right?  wouldn't want the null case to confuse the issue ;)
[04:17:49] <pcgod> rubenbb1: yes
[04:18:06] <rubenbb1> ok
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[04:35:31] <rubenbb1> hmm, I wonder if /usr/local/include is getting pulled in by the gyp files that use pkg-config to pull in local headers
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[04:40:36] <rubenbb1> that's probably it, just got to track down the one that's doing it
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[05:33:36] <ichrome> http://pastebin.com/niDE0K4h
[05:34:37] <ichrome> what's wrong with me?
[05:34:40] <ichrome> http://pastebin.com/niDE0K4h
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[05:49:10] <thenew> chrome/gpu/gpu_main.cc:22:22: error: GL/glxew.h: No such file or directory
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[05:57:46] <m0> thenew: did you install the prerequisites?
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[05:57:59] <m0> thenew: thats on Linux right?
[05:58:32] <m0> thenew: I think libglu or something
[05:58:36] <m0> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructionsPrerequisites
[05:58:37] <thenew> yes
[05:58:59] <thenew> i have done the prerequisites
[05:59:15] <m0> libgl1 and libglu ?
[05:59:27] <thenew> i follow http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxChromiumArm
[06:00:19] <thenew> i don't know what u say
[06:00:46] <thenew> i just follow http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxChromiumArm step by step
[06:01:50] <thenew> what 's wrong with me
[06:01:57] <m0> thenew: perhaps something is missing in those docs. Chromium evolves, and those are community driven docs.
[06:03:54] <m0> Or something is conflicting :x
[06:04:09] <m0> The fun stuff in building :)
[06:04:41] <thenew> would u please me tell me where i can follow
[06:05:07] <m0> Are you building that for ChromiumOS
[06:05:37] <thenew> i want to build chrome browser for arm
[06:06:03] <thenew> not all chromium os ,it's too big
[06:07:19] <thenew> when i run make clean,it's display no target ,i fell so sad
[06:08:38] <m0> Well it builds fine, http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?builder=Chromium%20Arm%20(dbg)&builder=Chromium%20Arm, sorry I cannot be of assistance. I never compiled Chromium in ARM before.
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[06:10:07] <thenew> where i can get help
[06:10:47] <m0> You could try the chromium-dev mailing list.
[06:11:41] <thenew> i want the doc form arm compile ,it's seemed so difficult
[06:12:45] <m0> Well, if you summarize what you have done, and post a message on the mailing list http://www.chromium.org/developers/technical-discussion-groups perhaps some person will know.
[06:15:40] <thenew> ok thank u so much
[06:16:09] <thenew> why not set up a channel for arm chromium os
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[06:18:37] <thenew> i just wan to rebuild the src ,just make clean, the command is error , how to use the  gyp x
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[06:42:12] <wx24> does anyone have an idea what the approximate binary size of v8 is?
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[06:47:51] <thakis_> 10
[06:49:48] <wx24> thakis_: in kb?
[06:50:20] <thakis_> wx24: nah, i have no idea
[06:50:53] <thakis_>  ls -l xcodebuild/Release/libv8_base.a
[06:50:58] <thakis_> whatever that means
[06:54:21] <wx24> 58918300 is like 56 mb
[06:54:54] <adamkex> ls -lh
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[07:03:50] <thenew> how to make clean
[07:03:53] <thenew> how to make clean in chrome
[07:09:19] <thakis_> wx24: yeah, but that's pre-linking
[07:09:35] <thakis_> wx24: probably easiest to download v8 and look
[07:09:50] <thakis_> it probably includes some repl; if not it should be easy to write some binary that links v8
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[09:59:40] <phajdan-jr> tyoshino: ping
[09:59:56] <adamkex> pong
[10:00:01] <adamkex> ops
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[10:06:29] <tyoshino> phajdan-jr: pong
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[10:06:58] <phajdan-jr> tyoshino: I think none of my changes could make tests regress
[10:07:10] <phajdan-jr> tyoshino: if they fail after that, they do so in a more predictable manner :)
[10:08:09] <tyoshino> phajdan-jr: yes. thanks for checking. we checked the bot and we see that it was failing creating new window
[10:08:28] <phajdan-jr> tyoshino: ok. thanks for restoring my CL until it was confirmed as unrelated
[10:08:37] <tyoshino> phajdan-jr: we rebooted it and it's now fine again
[10:09:24] <phajdan-jr> tyoshino: do we know why it failed to create new windows? It would be good to identify the root cause and fix it.
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[10:12:14] <tyoshino> phajdan-jr: i don't have clue yet. NSInternalInconsistencyException suddenly appeared from this run http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Mac10.5%20Tests%20(dbg)(2)/builds/16784
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[10:15:08] <phajdan-jr> no idea either :(
[10:16:11] <Ke> phajdan-jr: could you btw perhaps add build type debug for USE debug on gentoo
[10:16:43] <phajdan-jr> Ke: I'd prefer not to make it more complicated (it already takes some time to compile-test it before bumping)
[10:17:11] <phajdan-jr> Ke: I think that if you want a debug build, I'd recommend compiling it yourself
[10:17:53] <phajdan-jr> Ke: what especially worries me are reports from people that they can't compile it in Debug mode, which is quite strange to me
[10:18:25] <Ke> running out of memory oslt?
[10:18:50] <phajdan-jr> Ke: not sure, it can be found on bugs.gentoo.org
[10:21:30] <Ke> can't find any
[10:21:40] <Ke> if debug is not even supported
[10:23:02] <phajdan-jr> Ke: see https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315447
[10:25:13] <Ke> ok
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[10:57:08] <Limbero|School> as always, I have a question
[10:57:24] <Limbero|School> brb
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[11:53:12] <yurys> is anyone working on NaCl around?
[11:53:40] <craigsch> Ke, phajdan-jr: the findentity issue in debug mode in the gentoo bug is known ... see crbug.com/26496
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[12:59:59] <vipw> hey, i just filed a bug for clipboard handling here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44359
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[13:00:18] <vipw> if there's anything more i should mention in it, let me know
[13:00:50] <vipw> because i don't really feel like i explained it so well
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[13:27:23] <Forsaken|Laptop> hi there
[13:30:49] <Forsaken|Laptop> i've got a problem with chromium (browser), i'm web developer and found a strange bug when rendering pages
[13:32:10] <Forsaken|Laptop> i simply use two div's with nothing else between (not even a whitespace), but chrome renders a line break between those two div's
[13:32:47] <Forsaken|Laptop> in any browser that line break does not exist how it should be
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[13:33:06] <Forsaken|Laptop> (didn't test original chrome)
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[13:35:41] <Namegduf> Forsaken|Laptop: http://cat.xula.edu/tutorials/html/versus.php <-- div is a block element.
[13:36:50] <b3n> Forsaken|Laptop: use span
[13:37:22] <Forsaken|Laptop> ehm between the divs there is an empty line not inside
[13:39:54] <Forsaken|Laptop> when adding a 1px border the empty line disappears ... o.O
[13:41:41] <Forsaken|Laptop> http://ebiz-test4.de/ <-- below the red bordered there appears a newline if i remove that 1px red border, you can't tell me thats how it should be
[13:44:44] <Forsaken|Laptop> *below the red bordered div
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[14:20:49] <Forsaken|Laptop> no ideas? :x
[14:22:35] <pamg_> Forsaken|Laptop: Create a minimal test case and post a bug at http://crbug.com
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[14:40:59] <Forsaken|Laptop> thats already strange: http://ebiz-test4.de/uploads/chromium.html
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[14:41:16] <Forsaken|Laptop> the only difference is border for DIV #1 enabled/disabled
[14:42:17] <Forsaken|Laptop> but this happens in other browsers too, strange
[14:42:24] <Forsaken|Laptop> i just don't get it
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[15:08:07] <Forsaken|Laptop> found the problem, when setting a min-height there's a difference to other browsers: http://ebiz-test4.de/uploads/chromium.html
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[16:02:09] <evmar> good afternoon, #chromium!
[16:04:41] <Forsaken|Laptop> hi there
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[17:35:36] <trungl> 'morning, Chromium.
[17:35:56] <evmar> whazzup trung
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[17:57:31] <maruel> evmar: did my git-cl review made you cry?
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[18:09:04] <evmar> maruel: i dunno what you're talking about
[18:09:24] <maruel> evmar:
[18:09:25] <maruel> 10:25 -!- mode/#chromium [+v rohitrao] by ChanServ
[18:09:27] <maruel> argh
[18:09:32] <maruel> http://codereview.chromium.org/2083006/show
[18:10:16] <evmar> i am nearly at email bankruptcy
[18:11:27] <evmar> clearly, the solution is to write more email
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[18:11:42] <maruel> ahah
[18:14:06] * maruel is afraid evmar confused his from:buildbot filter with from:maruel
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[18:15:02] <evmar> from:buildbot => straight to trash.  from:maruel => inbox, which is more like "a desk covered with so much paper you can't find any of them"
[18:15:05] <evmar> my own fault
[18:16:58] <maruel> evmar: you shouldn't thrash them anymore
[18:17:05] <maruel> as there is no email sent to chromium-dev anymore
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[18:17:10] <gionnico> hello
[18:17:19] <gionnico> i've compiled chromium but it hangs when i start it
[18:17:30] <gionnico> and no graphic is started. there's no console output
[18:17:45] <maruel> so you'll miss emails when you're on the culprit list
[18:18:14] <evmar> gionnico: i suggest debugging it
[18:18:32] <evmar> Matches: subject:(buildbot failure in Chromium) list:"<chromium-dev.chromium.org>" -{to:me}
[18:18:35] <evmar> ^ my filter :)
[18:19:03] <maruel> ok you can safely delete it now
[18:19:30] <maruel> victorw: I'll fix the update scripts, no big deal
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[18:29:10] <dglazkov> good morning, Chromium!
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[18:31:34] <trungl> 'morning, dglazkov.
[18:31:39] <rsesek> good morning, Chromium!
[18:31:52] <trungl> 'morning, rsesek.
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[18:45:42] <thakis> morning, dglazkov, rsesek, and chromium
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[18:52:09] <asargent> good morning #chromium!
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[18:55:10] <gauge> Hey, I'm running the nightly build of Chromium and was wonderign if there was a way to enable html5 video.  Is this possible yet?
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[18:56:09] <evmar> gauge: ask your distributor :)
[18:56:13] <Caleb> gauge: there is for youtube
[18:56:45] <thakis> morning, asargent
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[18:58:08] <gauge> Caleb: awesome! got a link for me on how to do it?
[18:58:13] <gionnico> youtube.com/html5
[18:58:26] <Caleb> there ya go
[18:58:27] <gionnico> only works for some videos afaik
[18:58:33] <gionnico> (h264 ones..)
[18:58:37] <gauge> oic.
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[18:58:57] <lukas___> if you enable the html5 opt-in, *all* videos are transmitted as h264.
[18:59:04] <gionnico> ah so
[18:59:12] <gionnico> also 480p ones
[18:59:13] <Caleb> ive had some that still play in flash
[18:59:15] <gionnico> ir 360p?
[18:59:19] <gionnico> *or
[18:59:27] <lukas___> it doesn't work stable though. on some days they're transmitted as h264, the next day it's flash again.
[18:59:40] <gionnico> well now there're at least 3 flash players around
[18:59:44] <gionnico> depending on the video / channel
[19:00:01] <Caleb> if they are featured videos
[19:00:08] <gionnico> there's one where playbar become small
[19:00:15] <gionnico> new style and one that is old style
[19:00:38] <gionnico> i've never seen old style again
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[19:00:47] <gionnico> now also google.com has youtube style for search
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[19:03:30] <lukas___> on the mac, if you use the flash plugin 9.0.28, the interface of the flash video is different from the one that is shown with flash 9.0.246 or 10.0.
[19:03:40] <Velmont> There is no way to read the timestamp from ogg in chromium. Am I correct? Or is there a hidden way?
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[19:04:43] <lukas___> also, the videos are transmitted from youtube in a different format depending on the flash version.
[19:05:02] <pinkerton> baby jesus, flash 9?!
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[19:05:32] <lukas___> hi pinkerton!
[19:05:42] <rohitrao> don't use flash 9 :)
[19:06:07] <pinkerton> yeah, please to be upgrading :)
[19:06:36] <gionnico> i use 10.1
[19:06:40] <asargent> FYI, I'm going to try rolling back the commit at 47413 by dpolukhin at chromium dot org because the linux cros valgrind bot has had a compile error since that revision
[19:07:05] <asargent> um, nevermind, I see that builder just went green
[19:07:27] <gionnico> valgrind is a memory debugger
[19:08:07] <evmar> debugger is a program used to track down bugs
[19:08:28] <asargent> memory remembers things
[19:08:52] <gionnico> etimo very interesting
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[19:14:56] <gauge> I tired that youtube/htl5 beta and it apears that Chromium (well mine anyway) isn't compatable.  As well, on html5test.com it states that I do not have H.264 codec suport. I'm currently running Chromium 6.0.406.0 (47371).
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[19:15:55] <gionnico> gauge: you need to compile chromium with define -Dproprietary_codecs=1
[19:16:00] <dhollowa> sheriffs: about to commit a .grd change.  don't expect redness, but is possible.  just fyi.
[19:16:11] <gionnico> and if you use external ffmpeg ensure you have x264 support builtin
[19:17:11] <thakis> jam2 (or others): why's the default_plugin an internal plugin? so that it shares crash reporting? (i'm trying to write default_plugin support for mac. it's a "real" plugin atm; i guess it should be in the main exe on mac as well?)
[19:17:21] <thakis> evmar, stuartmorgan: you might know too ^
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[19:18:21] <stuartmorgan> thakis: I don't know what the distinction for internal plugins is
[19:19:34] <stuartmorgan> thakis: I don't remember if the bug mentions, but there is probably going to have to be a server component to this as well
[19:21:11] <gauge> dhollowa: Wicked.  Thanks
[19:21:15] <thakis> stuartmorgan: yes, that's possible. i'm trying to get the current experience (white rect with "Plugin missing") with a real default_plugin for v1 first, to get all the plumbing out of the way. i can worry about the server part later (if one's required)
[19:21:42] <asargent> yurys: have you noticed the redness in the XP tests bot since your checkin at 47401 ?
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[19:22:43] <stuartmorgan> thakis: I wish we didn't use a plugin at all :P I know Firefox got rid of theirs and went so some internal UI
[19:23:53] <stuartmorgan> thakis: make sure you use Cocoa + CG for the plugin, btw
[19:24:06] <thakis> stuartmorgan: i was about to ask if ca or cg are better
[19:24:16] <stuartmorgan> thakis: CA is overkill here
[19:24:20] <thakis> stuartmorgan: ok
[19:24:31] <thakis> stuartmorgan: (you will be one of the reviewers anyway)
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[19:25:57] <rohitrao> what is default_plugin for?
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[19:26:19] <evmar> it's probably internal just 'cause that's easier -- no extra build target, just using code internally
[19:26:31] <evmar> it's implemented as a plugin because that's the easiest place to hook it in
[19:26:37] <evmar> what does safari do in this area, btw?
[19:26:59] <evmar> rohitrao: it's the box that says "missing plugin, click here to install"
[19:27:30] <pinkerton> in 15 years, i've never seen that actually work :)
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[19:28:29] <evmar> yeah, me neither, which is why i have mercilessly punted it
[19:28:39] <evmar> on linux it's basically "this site uses a plugin, and you're on linux so you're screwed
[19:28:44] <pinkerton> lol
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[19:29:06] <evmar> though there's actually a pretty nifty plugin finder integrated into ubuntu somehow
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[19:40:15] <asargent> hmm.. dhollowa 's change touched the .grd file - does this mean we need a clobber build?
[19:43:49] <asargent> tonyg-cr: can you take a look at the mac valgrind failure here: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/memory/builders/Chromium%20Mac%20UI%20(valgrind)(2)/builds/3056/steps/valgrind%20test:%20ui/logs/stdio
[19:43:53] <asargent> I think it might be related to your change
[19:44:23] <tonyg-cr> Sure, looking now
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[19:47:46] <fta> evmar, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580622
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[19:56:03] <agl> fta: (re that bug) just kill me now.
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[19:56:22] <agl> fta: probably he has a different hinting level specified by fontconfig
[19:56:44] <fta> agl, it's from debian, ubuntu is different
[19:56:49] <tonyg-cr> asargent: Are you sure it isn't related to the webkit roll that built at the same time? Or perhaps it is easiest to just drover mine and see if it fixes it?
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[19:57:25] <fta> agl, i was just looking at the debian bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;package=chromium-browser
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[19:58:14] <asargent> I only took a quick look at the valgrind output, noted it looked vaguely network/dns code related, and noticed your changes were in resource loading, so immediately pointed the finger of blame :)
[19:58:21] <fta> agl, they used my packaging, then diverged a lot by moving to system-everything and changing parts of my rules
[19:58:40] <fta> ...creating new bugs :P
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[19:58:57] <agl> fta: system-everything also means dynamically linking V8?
[19:59:16] <asargent> if you don't think it's your change, we can just create a bug and add it to the suppressions
[19:59:21] <agl> fta: otherwise I think system-everything is ok these days (as long as the libevent version is new enough)
[19:59:53] <fta> agl, i remember bad things wrt libxml/xslt & gmail
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[20:00:47] <fta> agl, yep, libv8: http://packages.debian.org/sid/chromium-browser
[20:01:18] <fta> agl, and libevent-1.4-2 (>= 1.4.13-stable)
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[20:06:04] <tonyg-cr> asargent: it really doesn't look related to mine, let me know if you want to drover to verify
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[20:07:34] <asargent> tonyg-cr: no worries, I'll create the bug. Thanks for investigating.
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[20:33:45] <pkasting> asargent: I suspect the test failure is due to .grd changes
[20:33:53] <pkasting> asargent: And thus will go green next run
[20:33:56] <asargent> pkasting: ok, I will reopen
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[20:34:56] <pkasting> asargent: And by "next run" I mean "whenever the builders have actually fully cycled"
[20:35:27] <asargent> .rgd changes, you are my nemesis
[20:35:28] <pkasting> asargent: Since it looks like the dbg builder is taking 5 million years and thus has only recently finished its first, presumably broken, post-.grd-change build
[20:35:56] <asargent> s/.rgd/.grd/
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[20:50:26] <Velmont> Grr. It's incredible irritating that the bug tracker is read-only.
[20:51:15] <maruel> Velmont: it is for us too
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[21:13:51] <Velmont> maruel: :-)))
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[21:21:58] <akalin> greetings chromiumites
[21:22:08] <akalin> it is quiet today
[21:23:26] <asargent> I am headed to lunch, back in a bit
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[21:29:00] <akalin> willchan: ping!
[21:29:14] <rsesek> greetings, akalin
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[21:33:05] <willchan> akalin: pong
[21:33:47] <akalin> willchan: so right now the sync XMPP stuff, which lives on its own thread, uses its own dns lookup stuff
[21:33:55] <akalin> i want to rip it out and use net::HostResolver
[21:34:12] <akalin> creating one that lives on that thread seems to work, but would it be better to use the one living on the IOThread?
[21:34:56] <willchan> eroman: ^^^
[21:35:02] <willchan> akalin: probably, yes
[21:35:07] <willchan> akalin: it depends though
[21:35:09] <akalin> mmm okay
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[21:35:15] <willchan> sharing the same HostResolver has a # of implications
[21:35:25] <willchan> first, we'd share the same HostCache
[21:35:58] <eroman> yes, sharing the same host resolver would be good. however the class is not thread safe
[21:36:00] <willchan> 2nd, you'd be subject to the same limitations for HostResolver (current dns lookup limits for example)
[21:36:09] <willchan> which is strictly good
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[21:36:42] <akalin> would proxy settings affect the HostResolver?
[21:36:47] <eroman> willchan: we *should* be enforcing the global limits across all consumers of DNS/sockets/etc, so that side-effect is strictly good IMO
[21:36:52] <akalin> i.e. do some proxies route DNS requests too?
[21:36:59] <eroman> akalin: no, proxy settings do not affect HostResolver
[21:37:03] <akalin> okay
[21:37:06] <willchan> eroman: that's what i said, right?
[21:37:17] <akalin> all right
[21:37:23] <eroman> akalin: some proxies (i.e. SOCKS v5) can affect the resolve outcome, but it is done at a different level, so the HostResolver is unaffected
[21:37:31] <akalin> so if i wanted to use the IOThread HostResolver, I'd basically have to do the same thing i did with the NetworkChangeNotifier
[21:37:50] <akalin> eroman: is it done at a lower or higher level than HostResolver?
[21:37:57] <willchan> akalin: higher level
[21:38:03] <willchan> well
[21:38:14] <willchan> the proxy can do the host resolution on your behalf in socks v5
[21:38:22] <akalin> i see
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[21:38:43] <willchan> and the proxy resolver for PAC scripts will issue its own host resolution requests
[21:38:54] <akalin> what if i wanted to use the same resolution behavior the proxy would do?
[21:39:31] <willchan> you need to hook into the proxy resolver code
[21:39:34] <akalin> i see
[21:39:39] <willchan> HttpNetworkTransaction has this stuff
[21:39:41] <willchan> afk for lunch
[21:39:43] <akalin> ok
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[21:42:35] <eroman> akalin, willchan: Right. If you want to be following the proxy resolving rules, you should issue the request via URLRequest (and use Chrome's main URLRequestContext)
[21:42:59] <eroman> (since it isn't just the destination that can change, but also the protocol)
[21:43:13] <akalin> the protocol?
[21:44:16] <eroman> akalin: not all proxies are transparent, and require different headers or connection methods
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[21:44:35] <eroman> off to lunch
[21:44:52] <akalin> okay
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[21:52:38] <thakis> trungl: there?
[21:52:52] <trungl> thakis: yes?
[21:52:55] <trungl> for a few more minutes
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[21:53:42] <thakis> trungl: can you tell me where the code is that looks for "flash plugin for google chrome.bundle"? it's on a kinda weird search path
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[21:57:45] <trungl> thakis: look in chrome/common/chrome_plugin_lib.cc
[21:57:49] <trungl> (to start)
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[21:58:17] <trungl> then look in chrome/common/chrome_paths*
[21:58:36] <thakis> i'm amazed by in how many places that plugin stuff is
[21:58:47] <trungl> it needs serious cleanup
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[22:00:20] <dmaclach_> is gcl upload working for everyone using Snow Leopard?
[22:00:36] <dmaclach_> getting crashes trying to upload a CL
[22:00:45] <dmaclach_> worked fine until I did a recent gclient update
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[22:06:34] <markmentovai> dmaclach_: was working for me earlier
[22:06:46] <dmaclach_> hmmm... interesting.
[22:07:08] <dmaclach_> as it apparently hates me right  now. I'll continue digging.
[22:07:44] <malavv> Someone knows if URLFetcher component in chromium is a good bottleneck of all network communication?
[22:08:12] <malavv> It seems to, but I have also seen some stuff done in WebKitUrlLoader
[22:08:36] <jamesr> malavv: depending on your perspective, yes
[22:08:39] <jamesr> what's your real question?
[22:09:09] <malavv> In fact, I am new to chrome and I will be working to develop a network safety component
[22:09:26] <malavv> So my plan is to first find a bottleneck of the communication with the exterior
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[22:10:06] <malavv> for implementing such thing as custom headers for retry after of startup jitter component
[22:12:14] <agl> malavv: URLFetcher is a good start. HttpNetworkTransaction might be closer to what you want.
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[22:13:01] <agl> malavv: these are in net/, which runs in the browser. Anything to do with WebKit is going to be part of the renderer process, or host code in the browser.
[22:15:31] <malavv> agl: Thanks
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[22:20:55] <Kaosevil> hi all
[22:20:57] <Kaosevil> how are you?
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[22:24:00] <malavv> agl: Would url_request be a good compromise and still be intercepting every request?
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[22:25:25] <willchan> malavv: what do you mean by "retry after of startup jitter component"?
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[22:26:46] <willchan> malavv: if you want to add headers at a very low level in chromium, you should look at net/http/http_network_transaction.cc's BuildRequestHeaders()
[22:27:42] <malavv> willchan: In fact, I was talking of the implementation of a module that permit startup jitter for non-user initiated fetching and  backing up exponential backoff part of chrome with some custom retry-after
[22:28:27] <malavv> willchan: yeah, I was looking at it right now, seem to be what I want
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[22:29:29] <willchan> can you clarify what you mean by startup jitter?
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[22:31:08] <willchan> in what way do you plan to be modifying the headers?
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[22:33:10] <jamesr> who is 'dhw at chromium dot org'?
[22:33:12] <malavv> willchan: For the moment nothing as been started but I will start writing documentation for the project to get public opinionn
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[22:33:19] <jamesr> looks familiar but i'm blanking :(
[22:34:30] <Velmont> I did not get an answer, so I filed a bug :-) I guess it was needed anyways; <http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44387>
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[22:34:54] <malavv> willchan: Concerning the startup Jitter, the plan is to give a way for developpers to classify theirs action as "user initiated or automatic"
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[22:35:48] <malavv> willchan: and the client would automaticaly add a "startup Jitter" on application startup to all transmition that are automaticaly generated
[22:36:06] <jamesr> Velmont: have you considered asking WHATWG about this functionality? they are the body responsible for the <video> tag spec
[22:36:20] <malavv> willchan: So we don't ddos our server with non-user initiated requests
[22:36:30] <jamesr> Velmont: by asking them i mean just sending an email to the whatwg alias. it's a public list
[22:36:52] <Velmont> jamesr: I put up a bug at w3c as well. But I can send a mail as well :-))))
[22:37:08] <jamesr> i think sending mail to the WHATWG alias is the best way to get feedback
[22:37:15] <jamesr> i don't think as many people track w3c bugs
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[22:37:36] <fishd_> looks like my change horked the 64bit compile
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[22:38:15] <maruel> fishd_: can you revert?
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[22:39:08] <Velmont> whatwg at w3c dot com?
[22:39:23] <shoe> where can I find out more about current status/efforts regarding HW acceleration of <video> ?
[22:39:31] <shoe> (on linux)
[22:39:40] <malavv> willchan: Concerning modifying headers, another part of the component would "tag" outgoing request in a certain way. So the sever has more information on how to manage the request. And following exponential back-off we would like the server to inform the client in when should it retry
[22:40:42] <maruel> shoe: subscribe to chromium-checkins at chromium dot org
[22:40:43] <jamesr> Velmont: http://www.whatwg.org/mailing-list#specs
[22:41:01] <jamesr> Velmont: what WHATWG is not a w3c group, but it works closely with the w3c html working group
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[22:41:35] <willchan> jamesr: dhw is david holloway (dhollowa)
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[22:44:25] <willchan> malavv: sorry, i'm not sure i understand what you're saying.  maybe i will just wait for your documentation.  what server are you talking about here?
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[22:45:07] <willchan> since you say "our server", i assume it's a google server or something?
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[22:48:55] <maruel> asargent: eh, the nice about being a sheriff is that none will complain when you commit while the tree is closed :)
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[22:50:20] <asargent> maruel: Yep! Of course my commit is making the tree more green (suppression of a memory leak)
[22:50:31] <fishd> maruel: revert is in
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[22:51:40] <ibqn> does chromium needs /dev/shm to be mounted?
[22:53:27] <malavv> willchan: Yes, sorry, I was talking about Google's server, but this component would work with any outbound server request. The project was started in order to have a way to eliminate very large groups of people DDoSing a server because of Microsoft update or some sort of network manager that restart a large amount of computers at the same time
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[22:54:00] <malavv> willchan: outgoing*
[22:54:27] <eroman> ibqn: yes, make sure it is chmodded to 777 as well (see http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=39710)
[22:54:51] <jamesr> has this happened?
[22:55:02] <jamesr> (that form of ddos)?
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[22:56:41] <malavv> jamesr: yes, at some occasion
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[22:57:27] <malavv> jamesr: But now, with toolbar cross-browser, we are starting to have some major ddos power
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[22:58:07] <maruel> asargent: fyi, I may potentially break gclient with my next commit
[22:58:24] <maruel> works for me(tm)
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[23:00:27] <asargent> maruel: awesome, looking forward to it :)
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[23:01:15] <asargent> looks like darin's revert worked and compile passed, so I just reopened
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[23:09:32] <ibqn> eroman, thank you.
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[23:14:07] <thakis> markmentovai or others: which gyp file causes libcommon.a to be linked to chrome framework?
[23:14:54] <markmentovai> chrome.gyp and its includes
[23:15:02] <markmentovai> chrome_dll.gypi contributes the framework
[23:15:17] <markmentovai> chrome.gyp defines chromium_dependencies, which the chrome_dll target depends on
[23:15:29] <markmentovai> common comes from chrome_common.gypi
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[23:20:24] <thakis> markmentovai: thanks
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[23:25:56] <Killarny> how do I clear the cache for a single site? I don't want to clear my entire cache..
[23:26:16] <adlr> are there docs on what types of proxies the linux version of chrome supports, or a way to run chrome binary to get it to list all the possible flags options?
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[23:28:18] <thakis> Killarny: options->under the hood->content settings->cookies->show cookie manager
[23:28:23] <thakis> Killarny: there's a button there
[23:28:23] <fta> is webgl supposed to work on linux now?
[23:28:45] <thakis> fta: yes, but apparently it has problems on some distributions
[23:28:50] <fta> i remember it worked at some point with --no-sandbox --enable-webgl
[23:29:01] <thakis> fta: (at least that's what spot and kbr_google agreed on a while ago iirc)
[23:29:09] <thakis> fta: --no-sandbox should no longer be necessary
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[23:29:29] <fta> thakis, i also tried without it, nothing
[23:29:40] <kbr_google> fta: what distribution are you using?
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[23:30:05] <thakis> probably ubuntu :-)
[23:30:05] <fta> kbr_google, ubuntu/lucid (i'm the ubuntu maintainer)
[23:30:15] <Killarny> thakis: hmm, I meant cached images/js/etc .. not just cookies
[23:30:17] <kbr_google> fta: 32 or 64 bit? what graphics card?
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[23:30:43] <fta> kbr_google, 32 here, nvidia 195.36.15
[23:30:45] <thakis> Killarny: are you a web dev? shift-clicking reload should do a cache-ignoring reload
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[23:31:08] <Killarny> thakis: yes, I'm doing local development .. I'll try that again
[23:31:57] <Killarny> yep that worked, thanks
[23:32:14] <thakis> Killarny: support for shift-reload is kinda new (chrome 5ish)
[23:32:16] <fta> kbr_google, trying the khronos.org demos, all report "This demo requires a WebGL-enabled browser"
[23:32:22] <Killarny> ahh that would explain it
[23:32:40] <kbr_google> fta: i just downloaded the bits from http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/continuous/linux64/LATEST/ and ran ./chrome --enable-webgl
[23:32:59] <kbr_google> fta: runs the webgl demos at http://khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Demo_Repository
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[23:33:07] <fta> hmm
[23:33:37] <kbr_google> fta: ubuntu 8 64-bit with NVIDIA drivers
[23:33:59] <fta> 8? you mean hardy?
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[23:34:39] <fta> kbr_google, ^^ i'm on 10.04, aka lucid (the new LTS)
[23:34:45] <kbr_google> fta: i think so
[23:34:56] <kbr_google> fta: it's whatever distro we use at google
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[23:35:48] <fta> ok so it's hardy. any way i can see logs of what's going on?
[23:36:19] <kbr_google> fta: error messages should be printed to the console if the opengl context fails to initialize
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[23:36:34] <kbr_google> fta: so running from the command line ought to print some info
[23:37:03] <fta> i doesn't, that's why i asked
[23:37:09] <kbr_google> fta: hmm
[23:37:47] <asargent> ananta: is the chrome frame tests breakage yours?
[23:37:57] <fta> [pid  6022] open("/usr/lib/chromium-browser/libGL.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[23:37:58] <fta> [pid  6022] open("/usr/lib/nvidia-current/libGL.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 8
[23:37:58] <fta> [pid  6022] open("/usr/lib/chromium-browser/libGLcore.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[23:37:58] <fta> [pid  6022] open("/usr/lib/nvidia-current/libGLcore.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 8
[23:38:11] <fta> seems ok
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[23:39:07] <kbr_google> fta: can you verify that pid 6022 has --type=gpu-process on the command line?
[23:40:45] <fta> it doesn't
[23:40:54] <kbr_google> fta: so which process is it?
[23:41:16] <fta> kbr_google, none has it
[23:41:48] <kbr_google> fta: what is the version number in "About Chromium"?
[23:42:04] <thakis> jamesr: ping
[23:42:04] <fta> kbr_google, trunk, but the ubuntu builds
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[23:42:08] <gionnico> i'm back
[23:42:09] <jamesr> thakis: poooong
[23:42:21] <gionnico> i can't debug chromium that compiled fine with gcc-4.5 but doesn't start
[23:42:30] <gionnico> without console warnings and no window is started
[23:42:36] <jamesr> gionnico: iirc there are open issues about gcc 4.5 miscompiling chromium
[23:42:40] <thakis> jamesr: in the curent dev channel, all chrome renderer processes "idle" at about 1.5% cpu
[23:42:40] <gionnico> fake debug: http://pastebay.com/99002
[23:42:59] <gionnico> jamesr: i'll check that out
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[23:43:12] <kbr_google> fta: forgive my ignorance but are these different from the builds at http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/continuous/linux/ and http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/continuous/linux64/ ?
[23:43:13] <jamesr> thakis: i dunno, what's shark say they are doing?
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[23:44:44] <gionnico> jamesr: looks like there's only 3 bugs
[23:44:45] <fta> kbr_google, yes, i've been providing daily builds + clones of your channels to the ubuntu (and debian) community for a long time now
[23:44:49] <thakis> jamesr: shark says "processing samples"
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[23:44:53] <gionnico> but not mine. chromium compiled fine
[23:45:13] <jamesr> gionnico: well, are you sure it compiled fine? it might have reported no errors but produced bad code
[23:45:35] <kbr_google> fta: do you use the same gyp / gypi files used for the builds above? in particular are you overriding the build setting ENABLE_3D_CANVAS?
[23:45:48] <thakis> jamesr: ipc_mqueue_receive
[23:46:18] <jamesr> do you have the task manager open?
[23:46:20] <jamesr> the chrome one
[23:46:25] <thakis> jamesr: yes
[23:46:26] <fta> kbr_google, same files, and i didn't change ENABLE_3D_CANVAS for sure
[23:46:34] <jamesr> that'll ping each process at 1Hz
[23:46:39] <jamesr> do you still get 1.5% CPU with that closed?
[23:46:45] <Kaosevil> hi all
[23:46:46] <Kaosevil> how are you?
[23:46:47] <thakis> jamesr: yes
[23:46:54] <thakis> jamesr: (no, they don't ping each process)
[23:47:03] <thakis> jamesr: (on os x, the task manager doesn't need ipc)
[23:47:16] <kbr_google> fta: what about ENABLE_GPU?
[23:47:20] <jamesr> (what about the extra columns like JS memory?)
[23:47:32] <thakis> (i don't have these visible)
[23:47:33] <jamesr> (i'm gonna guess they just do not work on os x)
[23:47:42] <thakis> (i thought you implemented them?)
[23:47:44] <jamesr> thakis: i dunno if it's a known issue or not
[23:47:48] <thakis> hm, maybe the a11y tree shadowing?
[23:47:53] <jamesr> (yeah i thought you implemented then on OS X)
[23:48:08] <fta> kbr_google, same. here is my gyp line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435201/
[23:48:10] <thakis> jamesr: can you check if it's the same on windows?
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[23:48:53] <jamesr> i don't have a windows box handy, but on linux my tabs that aren't gmail sit at 0%
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[23:50:02] <kbr_google> fta: can i download your 64-bit build from somewhere?
[23:50:16] <kbr_google> (will it run on ubuntu 8?)
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[23:51:17] <fta> kbr_google, sure: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:51:23] <Kaosevil> Hi Guys please try my new plugin for Google Chrome -> http://gourl.it/u1aAaGyB
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[23:52:32] <kbr_google> fta: how do i download these? i am not a linux expert. i also don't want to overwrite the default browser on my system
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[23:54:35] <fta> kbr_google, if you don't want to add the ppa, just go to https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages   select the ~hardy version, you'll see the "Package files"
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[23:55:37] <Kaosevil> we
[23:57:12] <kbr_google> fta: for 64-bit hardy do i need chromium-browser-dbg_6.0.407.0~svn20100517r47392-0ubuntu1~ucd1~hardy_amd64.deb ? or another one? one issue i see is that this isn't up to top of tree (6.0.408.0 47448)
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[23:57:56] <Velmont> jamesr: Actually, -- chromium has it wrong. The WHATWG html5 video spec says that startTime should be the EARLIEST possible point. So they are in the clear. Both mozilla and webkit do not implement it correctly :-)))
[23:58:40] <fta> kbr_google, not the -dbg (unless you want to debug it). and it's a daily, not a continuous build, so it's a few hours late
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[23:59:21] <fta> kbr_google, to install the deb, you need both chromium-browser & chromium-browser-inspector (it's a dep)





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