[00:00:02] <markmentovai> kbr_google: only works for target ld
[00:00:05] <markmentovai> mode debug and release should both work
[00:00:23] <mpcomplete> jhawkins: yeah :(
[00:00:31] <js2> maruel: i notice you're archiving the exe's in your symbols directories. e.g. http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/symbols/5.0.375.33/
[00:00:38] <js2> is that needed for windbg?
[00:00:39] <kbr_google> markmentovai: received, thanks, applying
[00:01:00] <markmentovai> kbr_google: i'll polish it up and make it work for the other targets when i have a chance
[00:01:07] <kbr_google> no problem
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[00:03:41] <markmentovai> kbr_google: also of note, apple ld will run in x86_64 mode on a 64-bit cpu - this xcodeproj only builds for i386. i'll look at that later/tomorrow too.
[00:03:49] <markmentovai> should be enough for you to get started on for sure, though
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[00:04:42] <huanr> jhawkins: yes
[00:04:45] <thakis> mirandac: do you know the current plans for the first run bubble?
[00:05:05] <thakis> (i'm thinking about implementing the bubble on mac, but if we're about to change how it looks i'll wait)
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[00:05:24] <huanr> is it that flakey unit_test again?
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[00:07:05] <mirandac> thakis: I think that the whole first run process is supposed to be revamped -- though I'm not sure how long in the future that revamping is.
[00:07:13] <mirandac> thakis: glen would know.
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[00:07:49] <mirandac> thakis: in fact, you should probably wait --
[00:08:06] <thakis> mirandac: ok. that's easier anyway
[00:08:19] <mirandac> thakis: this whole search engine experiment thingy may result in a different first-run bubble than is currently used, depending on how it works out on windows.
[00:09:48] <estade> er
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[00:13:39] <js2> hmm, the chromium release builds appear to be stripped, and neither are you collecting the symbols. is that correct?
[00:13:42] <js2> (on Mac)
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[00:14:52] <aboodman> reverting
[00:16:25] <akalin> any cocoa folks around?
[00:16:41] <akalin> looking at http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43945 , wondering what the correct solution is
[00:17:13] <akalin> right now the dialog is sized statically, so i assume i'd have to resize it at awakefromnib time, like how the prefs dialog does it
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[00:18:45] <mpcomplete> skerner: could dom_checker_tests failure be your change? http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Linux%20x64/builds/8046/steps/dom_checker_tests/logs/stdio
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[00:20:07] <mirandac> akalin: have you looked at the GTMUILocalizerAndLayoutTweaker?
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[00:20:48] <akalin> yeah i see it
[00:20:57] <akalin> yeah, that looks like the thing to use
[00:21:36] <mirandac> akalin: it's used quite a bit in the xibs; I would take a look there for some examples.  the documentation is also really good.
[00:21:46] <akalin> mirandac: thanks!
[00:21:59] <mirandac> akalin: sure thing
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[00:35:20] <thakis> js2: yes, they are stripped
[00:35:50] <thakis> akalin: you need code for that kind of stuff
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[00:36:40] <thakis> akalin: you can look at e.g. content_settings_dialog_controller.mm's awakeFromNib for code taht does that
[00:37:02] <thakis> akalin: (if you need code from there, move it to l10_util.mm)
[00:37:11] <akalin> ah, thanks
[00:37:30] <thakis> js2: but i think the symbols are kept in a file somewhere
[00:37:42] <huanr> aa: is it good to reopen?
[00:37:58] <js2> yeah, i see that the original executables are copied into  "fake" dSYM directories, i just don't see that those are archived at any point.
[00:38:07] <js2> and they don't do a whole lot of good w/o the .o's to go with them apparently
[00:39:05] <thakis> js2: maybe that happens only for branded builds. markmentovai would know, but he left already
[00:40:33] <stuartmorgan> js2: dumpsyms on our builds on 10.5 is crazy slow
[00:40:44] <sid__> hi i wanted to know if some one has put in gears on google chrome for Linux...?
[00:41:15] <trungl> anyone conveniently in front of a windows machine, ready to build?
[00:41:28] <akalin> gears is dead, long live html5
[00:41:37] * trungl does relish the thought of synching and building on Windows.
[00:41:42] <trungl> (i.e., actually doing work)
[00:41:50] <sid__> akalin: Still...
[00:43:04] <sid__> Actually does localStorage also have the ability to create database.. I dint see it in the Interface description...
[00:43:07] <sid__> ?
[00:44:06] <thakis> trungl: (why) is internal flash being disabled on 375?
[00:44:16] <js2> stuartmorgan: i got that, i understand why you're building the fake dSYMS. I just don't see where in the build process you're bothering to preserve them. But maybe i'm looking at the wrong builder
[00:44:33] <trungl> thakis: 'cause it doesn't play The Daily Show properly on Windows.
[00:44:38] <js2> e.g. http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Mac/builds/5813
[00:44:53] <trungl> (and some other things too)
[00:44:57] <thakis> sadness
[00:45:05] <trungl> but it's only temporary
[00:45:08] <stuartmorgan> js2: I think last time I asked we didn't archive symbol information for the release builds on the Mac
[00:45:50] <js2> i see. maybe you only save them for the branded chrome builds
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[00:46:30] <sid__> Hey If I wanted to store certain webpage data via an extension... What would be the appropriate storage API?
[00:47:32] <sid__> I need it to persist(that means not the same as being wiped out when I clear my cookies and bowsing data)
[00:47:32] <stuartmorgan> sid__: The extensions mailing list is usually the best place to get extension-related answers
[00:48:24] <trungl> okay, who wants "print selection" back (at least on windows?)
[00:48:30] <sid__> stuartmorgan: Well my question is more about the Storage Mechanisms Available at the moment...
[00:48:47] <sid__> Like localStorage is really for Web apps
[00:48:54] <jamesr> sid__: ask the extensions list
[00:49:03] <sid__> ok
[00:49:20] <stuartmorgan> trungl: you implemented the state copying?
[00:49:28] <shess> hey, how to force a breakpad dump on macos?
[00:49:31] <trungl> no, not yet
[00:49:34] <trungl> I'm warming up to that
[00:49:50] <trungl> but apparently, before version 4, print selection actually worked
[00:50:27] <shess> I've tried kill -ILL, kill -SEGV, kill -TRAP, kill -ABRT, but don't seem to be getting a dump in ~/Library/Breakpad/Chrome_Mac.  My most recent dump was on 5/11, so that shouldn't be it.
[00:50:30] <js2> hmpfh: '# A Mac build makes fake dSYMs, so there is no point in collecting them.'
[00:50:56] <stuartmorgan> trungl: right; bug 27621
[00:51:16] * js2 wonders how your symbolizing the mac crash reports
[00:51:19] <stuartmorgan> Oh, that doesn't require state copying; my bad
[00:51:20] <js2> you're
[00:51:27] * trungl wonders if he's the only person to have ever printed a selection on Mac Chrome
[00:51:49] <trungl> stuartmorgan: and, strangely, also bug 22937
[00:51:54] <trungl> ?!?
[00:52:08] <stuartmorgan> trungl: on is about it not working, and the other is about it being turned off
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[00:52:09] <stuartmorgan> I think
[00:52:20] <stuartmorgan> (I'm not saying that makes sense to me ;) )
[00:52:26] <trungl> right
[00:52:52] <stuartmorgan> js2: symbols are collected for Chrome builds. I don't know what the mechanics of that are
[00:53:10] <js2> okay.
[00:53:36] <stuartmorgan> trungl: we can print selection? I thought I had a bug for enabling that on Mac
[00:54:15] <thakis> shess: if a regular core dump is good enough for you, there's a utiliity on amit sing's site that writes em
[00:54:27] <trungl> stuartmorgan: I can if I change an |if (something)| to |if (true)| ;)
[00:54:53] <shess> thakis: james has your hanging problem, so would sort of like to kill it up to the crash server, if possible.  I don't think it will help, but you never know.
[00:55:25] <shess> and we can't gdb attach for some reason.  Says "os/kern failure" or something like that was the helpful diagnostic.
[00:55:27] <jamesr> gdb sez "Unable to access task for process-id 15288: (os/kern) failure."
[00:55:30] <thakis> shess: that makes sense. i think i already collected a core file of that state, but having it in crash might be nice
[00:55:33] <stuartmorgan> shess sudo attach
[00:55:42] <shess> sudo make me a sandwich
[00:55:49] <thakis> shess: i could attached gdb when it happened to me. you're probably not trying hard enough :-)
[00:55:54] <stuartmorgan> shess: seriously; I occasionally have to sudo attach
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[00:55:56] <stuartmorgan> I don't know why
[00:56:13] <jamesr> you mean sudo gdb ; attach 15288 right?
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[00:56:29] <jamesr> wtf
[00:56:31] <stuartmorgan> I just sudo gdb -p 15288, but sounds like it's the same
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[00:57:38] <jamesr> wow that worked
[00:57:51] <jamesr> do you remember how to get gdb on 10.5 to accept .dSYM directories that have spaces in the names?
[00:58:49] <akalin> any cocoa folks want to review my small cocoa-related CL?
[00:59:04] * akalin looks at thakis
[00:59:13] <thakis> akalin: send it to me if you dare
[00:59:18] <akalin> woo
[00:59:56] <akalin> i18n bugs are annoying
[01:00:34] <thakis> akalin: no xib change description in cl description
[01:00:41] <akalin> thakis: right-o, fixing
[01:00:55] <stuartmorgan> jamesr: I don't think I ever knew; sorry
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[01:01:43] <akalin> thakis: fixed
[01:05:05] <jamesr> ok. i'm just gonna kill -BUS and hope that leaves a dump
[01:05:13] <thakis> akalin: done
[01:05:47] <akalin> thakis: do we usually wrap text?
[01:06:24] <thakis> akalin: i believe the prefs do, and i'm sure the content settings do. i don't know if we usually do it tho
[01:06:33] <akalin> okay i'll try that instead
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[01:12:16] <remitaylor> I believe this is the channel just for chromium devs.  Is there a channel for extension developers?
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[01:12:52] <asargent> remitaylor: several extension devs hang out here
[01:13:08] <finnur> ping nsylvain (see IM)
[01:13:30] <remitaylor> asargent: cool, I didn't want to ask questions in the wrong place :)
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[01:14:07] <stuartmorgan> remitaylor: there's a mailing list, which often is more reliable for getting extension answers than this channel
[01:14:15] <remitaylor> Does anyone know if there's a way to programmatically open a browserAction or pageAction popup?  Without the user having to click on the icon.  I'd basically like to add a keyboard shortcut.
[01:14:24] <remitaylor> stuartmorgan: thanks!  i'll check it
[01:14:27] <finnur> remitaylor: Nope
[01:15:01] <finnur> You can show an Infobar (currently experimental), but you can't force the popup for browser/pageAction to appear
[01:15:25] <asargent> remitaylor: you can also use html5 notifications
[01:15:39] <finnur> remitaylor: For Infobars, see: http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/dev/experimental.infobars.html
[01:15:48] <asargent> but infobars are awesome because finnur wrote them
[01:15:52] <finnur> hahahaha
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[01:16:09] <remitaylor> asargent: that sounds slick - i've played with a lot of html5 features, but not notifications!
[01:16:15] <remitaylor> sweet, thanks guys.  i'll check out both
[01:16:41] <js2> stuartmorgan: okay, i see the mechanics of how the symbol uploading works. it's in chrome_exe.gypi and breakpad.gyp
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[01:17:33] <asargent> remitaylor: http://www.html5rocks.com/samples/notifications/quick/
[01:17:46] <remitaylor> asargent: i'm already there :P
[01:18:04] <finnur> Who owns uploading symbols for chrome builds to the symbol server, anyone know?
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[01:19:54] <remitaylor> asargent: I kind of expected these to open via my system notifications (my linux version of 'growl'), but these are very hot anyhow.  i've definitely got enough to play with now!  thanks again
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[01:20:03] <moblin_> another easy bug to fill bug quota: http://crbug.com/43661 :)
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[01:38:39] <jamesr> kbr_google: i just finished checkout chromium out on my snow leopard box, i'll let you know if i can link shortly
[01:39:02] <kbr_google> jamesr: thanks, i'm updating and building a fresh workspace too
[01:39:25] <jamesr> which proj/target/config should i build?
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[01:41:31] <maruel> trungl: I had to disable print selection because it was misbehaving and I didn't have time to fix that
[01:41:39] <trungl> right
[01:41:52] <maruel> js2: yes, exe are needed for minidumps
[01:41:59] <maruel> sorry I wasn't clear about that
[01:42:35] <js2> okay, that makes sense
[01:42:45] <js2> i have a question related to the mac symbols now
[01:43:09] <trungl> maruel: was it misbehaving in ways other than DidStopLoading() not getting called?
[01:43:12] <js2> it looks like you only upload the mac symbols to your symbols server when mac_breakpad==1, which is only the case for official chrome branded builds
[01:43:20] <trungl> (which would result in it not printing)
[01:43:28] <js2> so why do you even bother to build the fake dSYM bundles for the chromium builds?
[01:43:48] <maruel> trungl: don't recall
[01:43:52] <trungl> one day, gclient sync will finish on my windows machine
[01:43:53] <kbr_google> jamesr: xcodebuild -project src/chrome/chrome.xcodeproj -target chrome
[01:44:20] <jamesr> it's chugging away in Debug currently. whee
[01:44:49] <trungl> maruel: ok, I'll keep my fingers crossed then (the bug/comments imply that was the problem)
[01:44:49] <maruel> js2: no idea
[01:44:54] <js2> heh
[01:45:00] <trungl> hopefully, not too much bitrot has occurred
[01:45:16] <maruel> trungl: ish, keep hope :)
[01:45:18] * trungl would like nonperishable bits.
[01:46:35] <maruel> trungl: bits are always perishable and quantum bit may be both perishable and nonperishable at the same time
[01:47:09] <trungl> can we add preservatives to our bits?
[01:49:04] <maruel> only tape backup
[01:50:57] <trungl> omg, I'm synching in sputnik (and it's taking forever), and I just read that it'll be moved out of fast
[01:51:01] <trungl> nooooooooooooooooooo
[01:51:14] <akalin> what is sputnik
[01:51:41] <trungl> 140 megs of, uh, javascript tests, I think?
[01:51:41] <maruel> akalin: no idea but it slows down your checkout
[01:52:21] <akalin> lotta tests
[01:52:24] <trungl> third_party/WebKit/LayoutTests/fast/js/sputnik
[01:52:37] <akalin> oh, dammit
[01:52:39] <jamesr> kbr_google: it built OK for me (with warnings)
[01:52:43] <akalin> so it'll be moved out of LayoutTests?
[01:52:43] <jamesr> trungl: hah
[01:52:45] * trungl wonders how they ended up in fast in the first place.
[01:52:47] <maruel> http://blog.chromium.org/2009/06/launching-sputnik-into-orbit.html
[01:52:51] <jamesr> they should never have gone into fast/js
[01:53:05] <kbr_google> jamesr: thanks
[01:53:05] <jamesr> they should never have gone into LayoutTests/
[01:53:15] <jamesr> kbr_google: i'm at r47054
[01:54:03] <jamesr> kbr_google: i'll let you know how release goes. i'm on a mac pro, btw, with lots of ram
[01:54:03] <trungl> but, I've learned (or at least inferred) that section 12.5 is all about the if statement
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[01:54:31] <patcito> hi
[01:54:54] <patcito> is there a way to stop chromium from grabbing focus when opening a link from outside of chromium?
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[02:01:45] <kbr_google> jamesr: ok, a clean top of tree checkout works for me too
[02:01:57] <mpcomplete> jianli: it looks like your webkit roll caused some renderer crashes in tab_switching_test http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Mac10.6%20Perf(2)/builds/3085
[02:01:58] <kbr_google> going to apply my changes to it and see whether the linker starts crashing
[02:02:01] <trungl> ahhhhhh, why is everything on windows so bloody slow?
[02:02:29] <selckin> disable the "antivirus"
[02:02:58] <trungl> oh yeah
[02:03:16] <trungl> and god knows what else
[02:03:22] * trungl wonders if he'll still be able to compile
[02:03:32] <akalin> disable the "suck"
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[02:16:52] <akalin> thakis: updated http://codereview.chromium.org/2001018/show !
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[02:20:17] <huanr> jianli: compile error
[02:21:03] <thakis> akalin: done
[02:22:15] <akalin> thakis: you mean heightChange -> viewHeightChange and convertedHeightChange -> windowHeightChange?
[02:22:33] <thakis> akalin: yes
[02:22:36] <akalin> okay
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[02:23:57] <akalin> i'm a bit fuzzy on the units
[02:24:10] <akalin> is it safe to shift the textfield's origin by windowHeightChange?
[02:24:24] <akalin> don't i need to convert back?
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[02:26:32] <thakis> akalin: d'oh, yes
[02:26:35] <mpcomplete> jianli, huanr: new webkit seems to have introduced some renderer crashes
[02:26:38] <thakis> akalin: (but you can use the unconverted value)
[02:26:48] <akalin> what about for the checkboxes?
[02:27:11] <akalin> do i need to do convertSize fromView?
[02:27:26] <akalin> or can i just use the existing viewHeightChange?
[02:27:28] <thakis> akalin: basically, with a scale factor of 1.5, views keep their current sizes, but window sizes are multiplied by 1.5 (i.e. window size == pixel size, view size == some virtual size)
[02:27:33] <estade> what is the difference between LinearAnimation and SlideAnimation with Tween::Type == NONE
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[02:27:46] <thakis> akalin: viewHeightChange should be fine
[02:27:50] <akalin> thakis: okay
[02:28:12] <thakis> akalin: (open quartzdebug, set scale factor to 1.5 and check if it looks mostly ok)
[02:28:20] <akalin> oh, neat
[02:28:24] <thakis> (you need to restart chromium after changing the scale factor)
[02:29:13] <huanr> mpcomplete, jianli: are the build clobbed?
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[02:30:24] <mpcomplete> huanr: yes
[02:30:32] <huanr> thanks
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[02:30:44] <akalin> thakis: also, the buttons are stuck to the lower and right edge, so they don't need manual moving
[02:30:52] <akalin> afaik
[02:31:49] <thakis> akalin: if they had the HIG-sanctioned vertical distance from the checkboxes, then that distance would be destroyed by not moving them
[02:32:08] <thakis> akalin: but if they have the right autosizing mask, resizing the window does all the work for you
[02:32:29] <thakis> akalin: (you could probably anchor the checkboxes at the bottom and get rid of the code for them too now that i think of it)
[02:32:42] <akalin> would that be a better solution?
[02:32:50] <akalin> yeah, that seems like less work
[02:33:21] <mpcomplete> huanr, jianli: the page cyclers are dying since the deps roll. i think we picked up a bad webkit crasher
[02:33:46] <akalin> thakis: should i anchor the text field also?
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[02:34:31] <thakis> akalin: if that works, sure
[02:34:36] <huanr> is there a stack trace somewhere?
[02:34:47] <thakis> akalin: put in a comment in the coe that the autosizing does all the work in that case
[02:34:48] <trungl> wow, that was a particularly painful development experience
[02:34:49] <akalin> lol interface builder doesn't like a non-default scale factor
[02:34:56] <trungl> but, on the bright side, it worked
[02:35:20] <mpcomplete> huanr: so far no.. just various tests failing due to renderer crashes
[02:35:47] <huanr> mpcomplete: do those include tab_swtich_test?
[02:35:51] <mpcomplete> yes
[02:35:56] <mpcomplete> i believe so
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[02:38:58] <akalin> thakis: please take another quick look!
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[02:40:50] <akalin> willchan: ping!
[02:41:04] <thakis> akalin: lg
[02:41:55] <akalin> is the tree safe to reopen?
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[02:42:16] <akalin> d'oh, nm
[02:42:28] <willchan> akalin: pong
[02:42:35] <willchan> sorry i haven't looked at your cl again yet
[02:42:37] <willchan> i fail
[02:42:45] <akalin> it's okay :)
[02:42:53] <willchan> readability review sucking up time
[02:43:29] <jianli> maybe we should have just one "Clobber" button that could be used to clobber all win based bots
[02:44:20] <huanr> mpcomplete, jianli: mpcomplete is right. 3-4 page cycler is dying
[02:45:27] <huanr> jianli: can we revert your change after the next reliability cycle starts? we can revert the revert if reliability passes.
[02:45:52] <jianli> huanr: sure, go ahead
[02:46:41] <jianli> huanr: do you mean my last webkit roll?
[02:46:47] <huanr> yes
[02:47:28] <jianli> huanr: sounds good
[02:48:03] <jianli> huanr: how do we figure out which WebKit patch causes the problem if there is one?
[02:49:30] <huanr> when reliability bot picks up the change and crashes, it will output a stack trace. or grab a build and run page cycler locally. so far four are falling/hang
[02:49:46] <shess> skerner: do you know if there's a magic incantation to schedule in mac_valgrind?  I just did git try -b mac_valgrind, no love.
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[02:54:37] <shess> skerner: n/m.  I just ran the try again and now that bot has 2 in "pending", so probably a bot or slave issue.
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[02:58:53] <huanr> tree will be reopend in about 10 mins, when next reliability bot starts
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[03:10:41] <huanr> opened
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[04:02:11] <Zyclops> hey is there anyway i can query the cpu and memory usage of the current page in js?
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[04:05:38] <Zyclops> anyone?
[04:06:47] <jamesr> there's no way to do that currently
[04:08:43] <Zyclops> what a pity
[04:09:20] <Zyclops> I've got a javascript app that caches lots of stuff
[04:09:34] <Zyclops> but i'd cache less if there was less memory
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[04:09:57] <jamesr> well, your page should be able to have a rough idea of how much it's cached
[04:10:12] <jamesr> since you control the caching behavior
[04:10:49] <Zyclops> yeah it's basically on older machines, I want to cache less
[04:11:11] <Zyclops> but on newer machines it's way better if I keep more of the cache (makes the application a lot more responsive)
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[04:11:35] <akalin> yay open tree!!
[04:12:08] * trungl is sad that he has nothing with which to break it.
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[04:12:48] <akalin> trungl: roll webkit!
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[04:13:24] <trungl> thankfully, that's a task for which I'm dreadfully underqualified
[04:13:57] <jamesr> Zyclops: sounds like what you really want to know how much memory is available on the host
[04:15:11] <jamesr> Zyclops: there's no good way to do that, either
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[04:24:54] <amstan> hey guys, i'm interested in finding out how chrome calculates the position that navigator.geolocation.getCurrentPosition returns
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[04:26:53] <rubenbb> amstan: looking at the code doesn't tell you?
[04:27:11] <amstan> rubenbb: i'm not exactly sure where to look
[04:27:49] <rubenbb> amstan: well, what file is that variable in?
[04:28:01] <amstan> it's a javascript command that chrome executes
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[04:30:10] <rubenbb> amstan: oh, you'd probably have to grep the source for that then
[04:30:27] <amstan> well.. svn checkout time then
[04:31:51] <amstan> why does the chrom repo have the python source code included?
[04:32:40] <akalin> ?
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[04:32:52] <akalin> i don't think we have a copy of cpython
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[04:33:57] <rubenbb> amstan: looks like the relevant code is in WebCore's geolocation code
[04:34:09] <amstan> thanks
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[04:34:39] <amstan> rubenbb: do you have a path that i can use?
[04:35:29] <rubenbb> amstan: third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/v8/custom/V8GeolocationCustom.cpp, third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/js/JSGeolocationCustom.cpp, and third_party/WebKit/WebCore/page/Geolocation.cpp
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[04:36:18] <rubenbb> I just grepped WebCore for that variable
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[04:43:16] <amstan> rubenbb: sorry for being a noob, but i still can't find it, i'm starting from here: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/
[04:44:41] <rubenbb> amstan: I don't think they host webcore in that viewer, you have to go to webkit.org
[04:46:14] <amstan> rubenbb: is there any viewer for the webkit repo, 500mb is kind of a lot
[04:47:14] <rubenbb> http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/WebCore/bindings/v8/custom/V8GeolocationCustom.cpp
[04:49:03] <amstan> k
[04:49:06] <amstan> i see there's some includes
[04:49:09] <amstan> geolocation.h
[04:49:13] <amstan> any ideas where i can find that? lol
[04:51:44] <pcgod> http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/browser/geolocation/ might be more intresting ...
[04:52:26] <amstan> yes
[04:52:28] <amstan> thanks
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[05:02:34] <amstan> i
[05:02:37] <amstan> i have this: https://www.google.com/loc/json
[05:02:42] <amstan> now, how do i use that?
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[05:45:33] <huanr> jianli: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Reliability/builds/9916/steps/reliability:%20partial%20result%20of%20current%20build/logs/stdio
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[05:47:36] <huanr> here is more: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Reliability/builds/9917/steps/reliability:%20complete%20result%20of%20previous%20build/logs/stdio
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[07:05:19] <bros> I am trying to play a video with the HTML5 video tag which I am 99.9% sure is an unsupported codec. I do not know what codec it is exactly. Is there any place where errors are outputted that are specific to the area I am looking for?
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[07:22:42] <rubenbb> bros: what's the codec?
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[09:13:24] <tyoshino> XP Perf (1) is continuously failing 6855-6871 (last)
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[10:03:24] <tyoshino> dumi: failing bot is not Linux (2) that bauerb@ has pasted on crbug. Now Linux (1) is failing.
[10:04:08] <tyoshino> is this caused by unsync-ed source? I'll try crobber.
[10:04:37] <dumi> tyoshino: sorry, was in the wrong channel...
[10:04:48] <dumi> tyoshino: no, look at the output, it looks like all worker tests are disabled there
[10:04:55] <dumi> so it seems that my new test should be disabled on thsoe bots too
[10:04:59] <dumi> not sure how to do that...
[10:05:23] <dumi> you can leave it disabled for now and i'll figure out tomorrow how to do that
[10:06:56] <tyoshino> oh, really?
[10:07:10] <dumi> tyoshino: look at the "Note: Google Test filter = ...." line, at the end of it
[10:07:22] <dumi> lots of :WorkerTest.*Blah: components there
[10:07:59] * dumi wants try bots that match the build bots for christmas this year...
[10:08:02] <tyoshino> oh, i see
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[10:10:27] <tyoshino> ok. please. thank you.
[10:11:21] <tony^work> tyoshino: I think it's ok to revert r47064 to make the official builders go green
[10:11:32] <tony^work> alternately, you could try to fix it, but that's not necessary
[10:13:29] <tyoshino> tony^work: thanks. is this the cause of ChOS bot failure
[10:13:50] <tyoshino> ah, i saw the mail now
[10:13:54] <tony^work> hmm, I doubt it?
[10:14:54] <tony^work> yeah, I'm not sure what's causing the linker failure
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[10:19:45] <tyoshino> ah, sorry. I was misunderstanding.
[10:19:47] <tyoshino> ok
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[10:25:27] <dumi> does anybody know what's up with http://cs/ and why it's been down lately?
[10:26:50] <tyoshino> i just used it.
[10:27:24] <tyoshino> wfm
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[10:43:52] <dumi> anybody around that knows how classes in WebKit/JavaScriptCore/wtf work? #webkit seems to be dead...
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[10:48:55] <yuzo> dumi: #webkit is live for me.
[10:49:07] <dumi> yuzo: i meant nobody seems to be awake there :)
[10:49:15] <dumi> but i think i finally found the solution for what i needed...
[10:49:28] <yuzo> xan_ and othermaciej are awake, at least.
[10:49:57] <yuzo> they are chatting now
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[11:08:49] <wr|> hi, my build dies with http://pastie.org/958359, I tried with g++ 4.4 and 4.3 on debian. any hints?
[11:10:12] <evmar> wr|: i suspect your freetype may be too old
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[11:14:10] <wr|> evmar, it's 2.3.11
[11:14:53] <wr|> which seems to be latest
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[11:15:36] <wr|> argh, no it isn't. have another freetype in /usr/local :) thanks.
[11:16:47] <auchewet> hi, are chrome browser templates you can use in web interface mockups available? I googled without success...
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[11:53:08] <wr|> hm, removing the old freetype and running "gclient runhooks --force" changed the error to http://pastie.org/958388
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[12:52:10] <wr|> hm. I solved my last problem, but now I get http://pastie.org/958448. I did a "grep -r 'XML_Size' third_party/libjingle/files/talk/xmllite/", that didn't give me any definition. anyone knows which lib XML_Size is supposed to be defined in?
[12:55:06] <evmar> wr|: i haven't seen that one
[12:55:29] <evmar> wr|: looks like it comes from expat, maybe
[12:55:51] <evmar> wr|: see third_party/expat/*
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[12:57:51] <wr|> argh! sorry, same problem with that one...
[12:57:55] * wr| cleaning up /usr/local
[12:58:39] <rubenbb> evmar: I was just looking at Peter's patch for getting BSD into the gyp files, any chance you could just leave out the unsatisfactory build/*gyp changes and just commit the rest of the simple gyp diffs?
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[14:00:11] <evmar> which patch?
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[15:54:22] <Dr4g> Is this the channel for chrome browser ?
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[16:06:34] <sotrud_nik> Hi! I would like to localize Chromium into Kazakh language. How do I start it?
[16:08:12] <pcgod> http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/43b8c0935ed63071#
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[16:20:15] <sotrud_nik> It seems like there are few strings, not a lot. Should I open a bugreport with new translation?
[16:20:37] <pcgod> read the mailing list thread
[16:22:30] <sotrud_nik> pcgod: Thanks for pointing me. "but you will need to compile and distribute your own build of Chromium" - Does this mean, that there is NO way to add new translation into official Chromium tree?
[16:22:58] <pcgod> afaik yes
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[17:07:47] <trungl> 'morning, Chromium.
[17:07:52] <rsesek> morning
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[17:29:59] <yurys> does anyone have a clue why chromium mac dbg builder may fail to link with error  "ld: in /b/slave/chromium-dbg-mac-builder/build/src/xcodebuild/Debug/libwebcore.a, can't map file, errno=12" ?
[17:30:05] <yurys>  seems like it runs out of memory on that bot
[17:30:38] <rsesek> yurys: we were seeing this on the valgrind bot earlier this week. mark applied a fix, but just for valgrind
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[17:31:05] <yurys> rsesek: what was the fix?
[17:31:21] <rsesek> yurys: http://codereview.chromium.org/1997013/show
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[17:38:15] <yurys> rsesek: thanks
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[17:47:24] <yurys> rsesek: do you think it'd be safe to remove release_valgrind_build==1 condition from dependency reordering code in that patch?
[17:47:48] <rsesek> yurys: I'd think so, but run it through the trybots
[17:48:19] <rsesek> all that the patch does is reorder the dependencies, so it should be fine
[17:49:06] <yurys> ok, will try
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[18:10:00] <rsesek> yurys: looks like mark submitted a build fix
[18:10:11] <dglazkov> good morning, Chromium!
[18:10:59] <yurys> rsesek: yes, we discussed this with him
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[18:11:33] <yurys> rsesek: I hope the fix will work for that bot
[18:12:06] <rsesek> yurys: it worked for valgrind, so I think it will
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[18:15:01] <yurys> rsesek: it did link, the bot is green
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[18:25:03] <jhawkins> tyoshino: sorry about that
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[18:25:23] <jhawkins> tyoshino: no excuses, but I only had (have) time to read a few emails so I didn't get to the resolution yet
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[19:54:33] <Tommi> anybody watching the tree?
[19:54:45] <Tommi> rvargas?
[19:55:29] <rvargas> yeah... I'm about to pen it because it doesn't look like any of the recent changes caused this
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[20:09:31] <hlv> Hi all, I am working on a research project which sits in the browser and monitor user behavior. Because the interface requires advanced visualization, I choose writing my standalone (cocoa) application using webkit. Now I am thinking about porting it to Chrome to do some long term study. Not familiar with chrome's infrastructure, what is the quick to quickly build / port mac code to chromium?
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[20:34:45] <maruel> hlv: err, it'll be fairly involved, I assume you're referring to mac's port of chromium
[20:35:00] <maruel> try building first :)
[20:35:04] <hlv> I built it
[20:35:28] <akalin> what do you mean 'porting to chrome' anyway
[20:35:39] <akalin> will your application embed chrome or something?
[20:35:44] <hlv> it's vague
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[20:36:05] <hlv> just thinking about not rewriting the whole thing in c++
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[20:36:28] <hlv> I was embedding webkit
[20:36:44] <hlv> I want to sit in chrome
[20:36:59] <hlv> be part of the browser
[20:37:09] <akalin> maybe an extension would work
[20:37:31] <hlv> but I want more than extension can do
[20:38:15] <akalin> welp
[20:38:34] <hlv> I have developed in firefox extension for a while, and give up because it is not flexible enough for my purpose
[20:38:59] <maruel> hlv: maintaining your chromium fork will be _more_ painful
[20:39:27] <maruel> not that it's not doable, but we won't be able to help you
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[20:40:05] <hlv> I can imagine that ...
[20:40:16] <willchan> can't you just maintain your own set of patches on top of the chromium mac port?
[20:40:54] <hlv> I think asking how to start then?
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[20:41:01] <hlv> I have a codebase in objective-c
[20:41:15] <hlv> I just don't want to rewrite everything ...
[20:41:24] <willchan> the chromium mac UI code is in cocoa
[20:42:24] <hlv> I have never written code in chromium mac, so... do not know the exact workflow
[20:42:51] <willchan> i think you should rewrite your code on top of the chromium mac port.  but that's just my two cents.  gl with your research proj.
[20:43:10] <hlv> I didn't find any code guide in the sources... do I have to read and guess for a while?
[20:43:32] <willchan> you can read design docs on dev.chromium.org
[20:43:51] <willchan> but the only real way to learn is to read the code and play around with it for awhile.
[20:45:06] <hlv> :(
[20:46:11] <hlv> it is a bit different with the "research project" taste...
[20:46:43] <akalin> modifying a browser is non-trivial
[20:46:47] <akalin> no getting around that
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[20:47:50] <akalin> shess: ping!
[20:48:25] <hlv> :(
[20:48:29] <hlv> to be a bit more specific
[20:49:35] <hlv> I was doing two things that extensions can't do, a UI for rendering some graphics, a hidden browser window to crawl webpages
[20:50:29] <akalin> and you couldn't do this with a firefox extension?
[20:50:40] <hlv> I managed to do that with using webkit mockup a browser, and a hidden webview for crawling
[20:50:51] <akalin> why do you need chrome
[20:51:25] <hlv> I tried firefox extension as first choice
[20:52:06] <hlv> but XUL doesn't meet my needs
[20:52:12] <akalin> why not
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[20:52:42] <hlv> And I assume modifying firefox source is no simpler than modifying chrome
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[20:52:51] <akalin> probably worse
[20:53:25] <hlv> so, for a fast research prototype, I developed my own standalone cocoa app, so I have full control
[20:53:40] <hlv> the project was good enough for a lab study
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[20:54:15] <hlv> but it is just a toy browser, not good enough for people to use it for a couple months
[20:54:35] <hlv> yes, I guessed that i would be worse
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[20:54:46] <hlv> but since, I used cocoa and webkit
[20:54:51] <crav> hello. sorry, about...?
[20:54:55] <pkasting> rvargas, tyoshino: I'm going to land a .grd change.  I'll clobber, but in case tests go read, I'm forewarning you
[20:54:58] <pkasting> red*
[20:55:26] <rvargas> ok
[20:55:37] <hlv> since chromium mac is using cocoa and webkit too, that's why I asked if there is easy way to patch my stuff into it
[20:55:47] <hlv> just to do some long time study
[20:56:11] <hlv> if it could cost me 1 month to do that ... i should think it twice
[20:56:49] <crav> does anyone want(ed);-> to listen a new feature proposition for TeH One Browser spelled in my broken english dictionary?
[20:57:15] <akalin> crav: please see topic
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[20:57:28] <crav> ok. i'll say short to be able to say anything or i'll say nothing better.
[20:57:39] <pkasting> rvargas: Darn, I think I missed the window on the release builder
[20:57:44] <crav> topic parsed.
[20:58:02] <crav> then i decided to say nothing. good bye.
[20:58:05] <crav> :-)
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[21:16:07] <willchan> anyone looking into why tree is closed?
[21:18:06] <rvargas> pkasting: I'm assuming this is your change... do you want the tree open?
[21:18:56] <pkasting> rvargas: Yes, this is definitely mine, just reopen
[21:19:27] <rohitrao> pkasting: so I'm looking at http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43967 finally
[21:19:29] <willchan> is it true?  why are the BookmarkContextMenuControllerTest tests all failing?
[21:19:32] <pkasting> Missed the 30s clobber window because I had to go find how to get to the internal waterfall in the new locked down world :(
[21:20:06] <pkasting> willchan: Look at the error output
[21:20:07] <willchan> some of the string checks are clearly due to pkasting's change, but i don't see how BookmarkContextMenuTest is related
[21:20:12] <willchan> oops
[21:20:18] <pkasting> willchan: They're all failing due to IDS_xxx checks
[21:20:20] <willchan> horizontal scroll fail
[21:20:30] <willchan> ok, yeah
[21:20:43] <pkasting> Really wish we could fix this grd issue
[21:21:15] <pkasting> rohitrao: I am intensely curious how that can happen
[21:21:27] <rohitrao> I'm hoping you can help me understand :)
[21:21:32] <pkasting> rohitrao: My assumption is that it's a bug in the TabContents or NavigationController
[21:21:44] <rohitrao> so the immediate reason is that permanent_text_ is set to ads.cnn.whatever
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[21:22:54] <rohitrao> and it looks like that's happening in a call to ToolbarModel::GetText(), where NavigationController::GetActiveEntry() is returning the wrong value
[21:23:40] <rohitrao> so when I interrupt cnn loading and navigate to www.google.com, I see the bar updating with www.google.com, and then it updates again with ads.cnn.whatever
[21:24:08] <pkasting> So the question is whether ToolbarModel or NavigationController is in the wrong here
[21:24:39] <pkasting> Seems like I made some kind of change to ToolbarModel in this area, might want to look through the last several months of version history on it
[21:24:48] <rohitrao> k
[21:25:02] <pkasting> I mean, I made other changes too, but I think there was one that mucked with this codepath specifically
[21:25:11] <rohitrao> I suspect it has something to do with the pending entry no longer being pending
[21:25:13] <pkasting> And Brett and I both had no idea what we were doing
[21:25:44] <pkasting> Another possibility is that you can try to find a regression window
[21:25:44] <rohitrao> or maybe it's picking up the transient entry, which is whatever's loading right now
[21:25:54] <rohitrao> I don't understand the navigation controller at all :)
[21:25:57] <pkasting> via the stored builds
[21:26:11] <pkasting> I generally do that as soon as a bug starts to look scary
[21:26:23] <pkasting> Then I don't have to spend two days just figuring out what is wrong
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[21:36:33] <clamiax> hi
[21:36:56] <clamiax> I'm trying to understand if it's possible to run external program via Javascript
[21:37:02] <rohitrao> pkasting: I see similar symptoms in a build from last june
[21:37:10] <rohitrao> which is about as far back as the mac snapshots go
[21:37:12] <clamiax> i'm reading Chrome, v8 and many other documents but without any result, yet
[21:37:15] <jamesr> clamiax: look up 'npapi' for the general case
[21:37:42] <rohitrao> pkasting: although back then the ads.whatever showed up and then was overwritten by the real url, whereas now it sticks around
[21:37:43] <clamiax> jamesr: it's an extension, I would like to know if v8 provides any builtin object for such purpos
[21:37:47] <clamiax> *purpose
[21:37:48] <jamesr> no
[21:38:08] <clamiax> well, where can I read about V8 builtin objects?
[21:38:17] <jamesr> the ecmascript standard
[21:38:22] <clamiax> mmh
[21:38:27] <jamesr> but what you want is npapi
[21:38:37] <clamiax> jamesr: it's unlikely that a web browser implements *only* the standard objects
[21:39:23] <jamesr> there's not a magical, undocumented backdoor that lets you run external programs
[21:39:44] <clamiax> jamesr: i think it makes sense let javascript engine runs local programs
[21:40:01] <clamiax> jamesr: that's why Firefox and other browsers allow it. No security issues, just best fit users need
[21:40:03] <akalin> clamiax: i think it's a giant security hole??!
[21:40:17] <clamiax> akalin: it's not a security issue at all
[21:40:34] <clamiax> akalin: why run a local file would be a security issue? That are your files!
[21:40:59] <akalin> lol
[21:41:00] <jamesr> i think there are a few corner cases you aren't thinking of
[21:41:05] <clamiax> How many users gets hacked from, say, Vimperator which allow to run an external editor to edit textarea? :)
[21:41:32] <clamiax> Unlucky it seems undoable with vimium or similar chrome extensions.
[21:41:46] <jamesr> it is possible to do in a chromium extension via NPAPI
[21:42:04] <jamesr> this is off-topic for this channel. extensions questions are best asked on the chromium-extensions list
[21:42:23] <clamiax> That's why I was talking about JavaScript; you started talk about extensions :p
[21:42:33] <jamesr> javascript does not support what you are asking for
[21:43:17] <clamiax> it's enough, THX
[21:43:31] <jamesr> if you think that it should, the right place to argue for it is ecma's tc39
[21:44:13] <clamiax> I think they are pretty convinced they're right. I'll not waste my them discussing with them.
[21:44:19] <clamiax> *time
[21:45:07] <clamiax> But i found weird I'm not able to do what I do with my free, opensource browser.
[21:45:15] <clamiax> *want
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[21:45:31] <motownavi> running a local file is a huge security hole
[21:45:36] <willchan> clamiax: i'm not sure you understand what open source means
[21:45:42] <motownavi> set up a webpage to serve a binary file
[21:45:47] <motownavi> gets automatically downloaded
[21:45:49] <willchan> clamiax: if you want to do it, take the code and add support for what you want
[21:46:02] <clamiax> willchan: I assume you are the right person to explain it to me.
[21:46:07] <motownavi> webpage then tries to run it from the default download location
[21:46:10] <motownavi> congrats, you're p0wned
[21:46:19] <clamiax> motownavi: it's already exists and it sucks
[21:46:26] <shess> akalin: here for a few minutes, what's up?  [WRT "ping!"]
[21:46:31] <clamiax> like 90% of stuff on the web, I guess.
[21:46:48] <akalin> shess: i was wrangling with the git 375-branch instructions
[21:46:51] <akalin> but i think i figured it out
[21:46:58] <akalin> we left off a /src or something
[21:47:16] <shess> akalin: did it work?  Wait, did I send you the new instructions?  Let me check, I asked someone to verify, maybe I should loop you in on that.
[21:47:21] <akalin> oh
[21:48:43] <akalin> shess: not sure if it worked yet, using the old instructions screwed up my tree
[21:48:45] <clamiax> I'm reading about NPAPI. It sucks.
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[21:48:48] <shess> ok, forwarded it to you.
[21:48:53] <akalin> cool
[21:49:27] <shess> I found that there were a couple almost-but-not-quite things that I could do.  I think my previous instructions were using an older git, and somehow it worked with a sequence that newer git handled somewhat differently.
[21:49:32] <akalin> oh okay
[21:49:48] <shess> oh, and my email has a line which broke.  I'm sure you'll figure it out.
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[21:50:15] <shess> if it works, could you either update the instructions, or tell me "Scott, it worked, could you update the instructions?"
[21:50:31] <akalin> so, just curious
[21:50:54] <akalin> doesn't the original git instructions create a svn-remote "svn" already?
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[21:51:06] <akalin> if so, can't we just add the fetch line to that?
[21:51:23] <akalin> it could be just some weird cruft in my repo
[21:52:40] <akalin> oh, i see you mentinoed that in the email
[21:52:43] <akalin> yeah i get the hang, too
[21:52:46] <akalin> fffff
[21:52:53] <akalin> i hate svn *so much*
[21:53:08] <jamesr> it sounds like you need a pure svn checkout
[21:53:31] <akalin> no i think i got it almost working
[21:53:34] <shess> I was very sure I could just add a new fetch line, but when I did so, it never seemed to accomplish anything.
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[21:53:55] <akalin> oh
[21:53:59] <akalin> i thought you need a branches line
[21:54:07] <akalin> like at the end of http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-svn.html
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[21:54:16] <shess> I _think_ that the problem might be that I didn't have the right magic to convince git that there was a HEAD that needed to be fetched, there.  Like git knew that I couldn't reference it, so it didn't pull the branch, I don't know.
[21:54:31] <akalin> so fetch = trunk/src:ref/remotes/trunk \n branches = branches/{375}/src:refs/remotes/branches/*
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[21:55:11] <akalin> watching the svn fetch scroll by, why do we have a copy of the GLES book in src/third_party?
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[21:55:38] <shess> it's possible there is a sequence which does the trick.  I encourage you to find it!  I just eventually got to where I no longer cared to optimize, I just wanted WORKING :-).
[21:55:48] <akalin> shess: yeah i think i'm at that point too
[21:56:10] <akalin> i wouldn't be even doing this if i were able to drover my change to 375 cleanly
[21:56:12] <shess> Towards the end I was using rsync to "quickly" re-create my starting point (fully cloned chromium git repo).
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[21:56:28] <clamiax> motownavi: that's why NPAPI sucks, not what I'm trying to achieve. Also have builtin supports allow to bypass such idiotic problems.
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[21:56:48] <shess> BTW, one I got it working w/in git, it was 25x nicer than using svn directly.  I could do nice things like cherry-pick across branches.  *shiver*.
[21:57:03] <rvargas> pkasting:looks like we have some real unit test failures. xp and vista dbg
[21:57:15] <akalin> shess: that's pretty nice
[21:57:16] <clamiax> There should be a "secure" directory which softwares can be executed by the JavaScript engine, not the whole user accessible files.
[21:57:45] <clamiax> else everybody have full access to your files which sounds not so good.
[21:57:49] <akalin> clamiax: cool, then all a hacker would have to do is to trick someone to downloading their exploit into that directory!
[21:58:22] <clamiax> akalin: they should first do their best to guess its path, name and whatever security designer are able to create.
[21:58:44] <clamiax> it sounds undoable.
[21:58:51] <clamiax> No security hole. Period.
[21:58:54] <akalin> lol
[21:59:09] <clamiax> akalin: why don't make me smile, too? :)
[21:59:17] <stuartmorgan> clamiax: so get it added to the JS standard, and Chromium will implement it
[21:59:22] <akalin> this is way off-topic
[21:59:27] <mirandac> the plugin_tests failures look grd related
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[21:59:48] <clamiax> stuartmorgan: why people can't just think better way to do things, instead of conflicts with other people? Btw, akalin is right, it's OT. Sorry.
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[22:00:49] <pkasting> rvargas: No, those are not real
[22:01:02] <pkasting> rvargas: The dbg builder still has not finished compiling the clobber build
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[22:01:27] <pkasting> rvargas: For no obvious good reason it built a non-clobber build first, and that's what has been run for all those tests
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[22:25:03] <alokp> looking at the failure
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[22:27:06] <alokp> I am reverting. I wonder how it passed the trybots
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[22:31:12] <alokp> reverted http://codereview.chromium.org/2082004/show
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[23:03:05] <SmileyChris> updated to Chrome 5.0.375.38 beta (on ubuntu, via apt) and now the chrome tab / omnibar font has turned serif :-/
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[23:03:07] <SmileyChris> http://i.imgur.com/gwyXG.png
[23:03:25] <jamesr> hmm
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[23:03:42] <jamesr> SmileyChris: could you file a bug on crbug.com?
[23:03:54] <SmileyChris> sure
[23:04:00] <jamesr> i think the people who would know the most about this might be busy right this second
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[23:08:56] <joshia> sheriffs?
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[23:11:44] <rohitrao> i dunno, times new roman makes for a very distinguished omnibox font
[23:11:57] <SmileyChris> indeed :D
[23:12:13] <SmileyChris> figured it out - it's using the two fonts in ~/.fonts
[23:12:28] <SmileyChris> stupid, but at least i can remove them to stop my eyes bleeding
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[23:15:29] <akalin> hey thakis !!
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[23:16:03] <thakis> akalin: w000000t!
[23:16:36] <akalin> can you rubber-stamp http://codereview.chromium.org/2116001/show ?
[23:16:45] <akalin> basically merging that earlier CL to 375
[23:16:53] <akalin> (had to do it manually because of xib conflicts)
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[23:17:04] <thakis> akalin: merges don't need reviews afaik
[23:17:14] <akalin> thakis: oh, okay!
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[23:17:34] <akalin> i hope git cl dcommit does the right thing
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[23:19:46] <jamesr> still merging to 375?
[23:19:51] <akalin> yeah
[23:19:54] <akalin> well, just did, hopefully :)
[23:20:06] <jamesr> did you clear that with laforge?
[23:20:08] <akalin> success!! http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=47193
[23:20:11] <akalin> jamesr: yes
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[23:21:09] <akalin> *merges entire trunk into 375*
[23:21:39] <thakis> akalin: nice!
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[23:22:06] <akalin> so i'm a bit fuzzy as to the relation of the git mirror with the svn repository
[23:22:22] <akalin> so the git mirror is basically read-only, and git cl dcommit submits to the svn repository via git-svn?
[23:22:43] <akalin> is there a reason why we don't just use git-svn for everything?
[23:22:45] <akalin> speed?
[23:22:59] <willchan> i think it runs presubmits too
[23:23:10] <akalin> i know
[23:23:16] <akalin> i didn't mean doing git svn dcommit or anything
[23:23:22] <willchan> oh
[23:23:36] <akalin> i meant just talking to the svn repository directly (via git cl ... and/or git svn) instead of using the git mirror
[23:23:43] <jamesr> sloooow
[23:23:48] <akalin> oh okay
[23:23:54] <akalin> how does the git mirror work?
[23:24:01] <akalin> is it basically an auto-updating git-svn checkout?
[23:24:01] <jamesr> the git protocol (either git:// or over http) is much much faster than pulling crap down svn revision by svn revision
[23:24:02] <willchan> you'd have to ask evmar
[23:24:11] <akalin> i see
[23:24:35] <akalin> and the git mirror only mirrors trunk, right, not any of the branches?
[23:24:36] <thakis> akalin: evmar is busy being awesome somewhere else this week i think
[23:24:48] <rsesek> akalin: I think the git repo is updated every 10 minutes from svn (probably git svn fetch every on a cron)
[23:24:57] <akalin> rsesek: i see
[23:25:34] <akalin> guys, let's just move to git :(
[23:25:37] <akalin> who runs on windows, anyway
[23:25:57] <rsesek> merging to branches would be a lot easier on git...
[23:26:12] <akalin> it would indeed
[23:26:38] <thakis> let's also rewrite chrome in go
[23:26:55] <akalin> k
[23:26:58] <thakis> it could be called google gorme
[23:27:08] <akalin> no
[23:27:11] <akalin> go ogle chrome :)
[23:28:53] <jamesr> the open source project would be chromigoum
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[23:31:17] <eroman> what .xcodeproj contains unit_tests target ?
[23:31:24] <rsesek> erikkay: chrome.xcodeproj
[23:31:30] <rsesek> ^eroman
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[23:31:42] <rsesek> autocomplete always fails me?
[23:32:14] <eroman> rsesek: thanks. thats what i thought, but it doesn't seem to be building that for me. lemme check my targets...
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[23:52:05] <moblin_> hi, are there any plans for go and nacl?
[23:52:40] <rsesek> was tvl around today just not on irc?
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