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[00:01:38] <evmar> hayleyw: might be more effective to attach your test json to a bug
[00:03:59] <hayleyw> evmar, i just wasnt sure if it was a bug or if i was doing something wrong or if that's how it was intended.  this is my json http://dpaste.com/190499/
[00:04:18] <hayleyw> evmar, each on its own loads fine
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[00:09:13] <dpranke> inferno-sec: ping
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[00:16:45] <inferno-sec> Hi
[00:17:17] <inferno-sec> who is webkit gardener currently ?
[00:18:17] <akalin> jam2: ping
[00:19:34] <shess> markmentovai: In Omnibox, I want to make a copy operation and a drag operation use the same stuff.  The copy uses what's at app/clipboard/clipboard_mac.mm, and it's just weird.  Our other code doesn't use that, so I'm thinking of just scrapping it and going direct.  Any counter-arguments?
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[00:20:01] <markmentovai> no argument from me
[00:20:03] <shess> markmentovai: I think one counter-argument would be to modify the clipboard code to setup the pasteboard in the initializer.
[00:20:09] <dave_levin> inferno-sec: see dpranke  :)
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[00:20:17] <leiz> inferno-sec: build.chromium.org says dpranke is webkit sheriff
[00:21:02] <shess> motownavi: Actually, I see you have a TODO in clipboard_mac.mm, so same question as I asked Mark a few lines up :-).
[00:22:21] <motownavi> wait... what?
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[00:24:45] <motownavi> I dunno what's using the clipboard code in app/clipboard, what's using the webcore pasteboard stuff, and things in general.
[00:25:18] <hayleyw> would someone please take a look at my external_extensions.json question? :p
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[00:25:59] <shess> afaict, chrome/browser/cocoa/ isn't using the app/clipboard code.  autocomplete/autocomplete_edit_view_mac.mm does, copied from other platforms.  I want to rewrite things to optionally write to a drag pasteboard, which makes the app/clipboard code not really directly usable.
[00:26:45] <shess> I can either go the long way (add an initializer to let me select the pastboard), or just dispense with using app/clipboard, since the UI doesn't otherwise use it anyhow.
[00:26:54] <shess> "otherwise" mostly is bookmark bar.
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[00:30:08] <stuartmorgan> hayleyw: you might have more luck with the extensions mailing list
[00:30:11] <inferno-sec> @dave_levin: i have synced with dirk
[00:30:33] <stuartmorgan> hayleyw: although if I were to guess, I would think the problem is that you have two top-level one-element dictionaries in the file
[00:32:36] <hayleyw> stuartmorgan, thanks, will research
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[01:00:45] <evmar> heh, i'm impressed UNC paths work, too
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[01:06:18] <hayleyw> stuartmorgan, i dont suppose you could give me an example? i'm having no luck googling and guessing :/
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[01:07:23] <stuartmorgan> hayleyw: I don't know JSON very well, but it looks like the top level object is a dictionary, so you'd do it the same way the internal dictionaries work
[01:07:34] <stuartmorgan> So, remove the } and { and add a comma
[01:08:01] <evmar> i think stuart is right
[01:08:14] <evmar> { "jifjasfdfsa": {...},  "edgbhfdjasklfjdsakf": {...} }
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[01:13:31] <hayleyw> evmar, http://dpaste.com/190517 as such? this isnt working, either
[01:14:00] <pcgod> hayleyw: try to remove the "},{" in line 7
[01:14:27] <pcgod> er. remove } and {
[01:15:20] <stuartmorgan> hayleyw: I don't think that's valid JSON at all
[01:15:41] <hayleyw> pcgod, no to either :P
[01:15:49] <jamesr> hayleyw: http://www.jsonlint.com/
[01:16:17] <pcgod> hayleyw: http://dpaste.com/190518/
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[01:17:44] <hayleyw> pcgod, no
[01:17:49] <hayleyw> jamesr, thanks, will try
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[01:21:59] <hayleyw> hrm...even with json validated code it doesnt work. http://dpaste.com/190522/
[01:22:04] <hayleyw> per jsonlint.com
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[01:29:51] <evmar> hayato: no, still wrong
[01:29:57] <evmar> hayleyw: no, still wrong
[01:30:20] <evmar> hayleyw: be careful to match the snippet i posted
[01:31:22] <pcgod> which is http://dpaste.com/190518/ ... (and it passes the validator)
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[02:24:42] <dpranke> anyone paying attention ... I just clobbered the windows builders because r46299 needed them to be clobbered.
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[03:39:36] <dcheng> Hm. I just tried to 'git cl dcommit' and it said something about migrating from a git-svn v1 layout... and now it seems to be wedged and doing nothing.
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[03:46:52] <dcheng> I ^C'ed it and tried again and now it's just stuck.
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[03:50:33] <dcheng> Oh... apparently I never set up git to track SVN on my Mac. Never mind.
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[04:30:33] <magn3ts> Oh my god, is chromium linux ever going to get fixed? :(
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[04:32:04] <jamesr> nope
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[04:32:48] <magn3ts> jamesr, :)
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[04:33:08] <magn3ts> I've hated using firefox the last several days and I realized I don't know the passwords to several of my accounts.
[04:33:12] <nikolasco> magn3ts, jamesr: I thought this was a move to encourage user contributions ;0
[04:34:48] <magn3ts> heh, I would but I have no idea where I would even begin debugging this particular problem. I can't seem to find a correlation with what causes it. I just know that probably 80% of the pages I try to load cause the tab to stall, with the throbber going and I have to close the tab (and any others open on that domain)
[04:34:59] <magn3ts> It also might help if I mentioned I'm using the chromium nightly ppa
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[04:36:56] <nikolasco> magn3ts: well, you might want to switch to the dev or beta channels of http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ and hop on #chromium-support (per topic)
[04:37:38] <magn3ts> >_> oh silly topic. I managed to read the "Dev Channel" and the #chromium-os bit.
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[04:38:28] <magn3ts> I think I am going to switch back to dev releases until this gets straightened out. Normally I don't have too many issues, but clearly I'm not competent enough :(. Maybe I might look for a debugging guide for chromium. I could use a project to hack on now that school's wrapping up.
[04:39:20] <nikolasco> hehe. seriously, though, I'm in a similar boat except that I'm intentionally on nightlies to provide ocassional kicks in the pants; I keep wanting to get around to working on Chromium but haven't found/made the round tits to get a dev environment
[04:39:53] <nikolasco> I've been going through http://dev.chromium.org/developers/contributing-code
[04:40:03] <nikolasco> magn3ts: sounds like you might want http://www.chromium.org/for-testers/bug-reporting-guidelines
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[04:41:16] <magn3ts> Yeah, it wouldn't be so bad if synaptic would actually fraking let me force an old version but it seems to disregard my choice as soon as I click ok. Oh well. There are alcohols that need consumption to wash away finals pain. I deal with chromium in the AM.
[04:41:31] <magn3ts> Also, ironically, I can't load that bug reporting page :P
[04:41:40] <nikolasco> hah.
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[04:42:00] <nikolasco> magn3ts: maybe reinstall? or uninstall and install? I forget the right dance
[04:43:30] <magn3ts> I cleared pretty much everything but my cookies without much luck. I could reinstall but I have my hesitations about that as well. Oh schvell. I gotta go. Thanks for the thoughts.
[04:43:49] <nikolasco> best of luck
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[07:14:18] <m0> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1801758/ChromiumVerticalTabs.PNG vertical tabs look nice :)
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[07:43:07] <dcheng> inferno-sec: are you around?
[07:43:14] <inferno-sec> yes
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[07:44:53] <dcheng> inferno-sec: why do we add -javascript-can-access-clipboard in http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=46299 ?
[07:45:10] <dcheng> Maybe I'm missing something, but it doesn't seem like we actually need that switch.
[07:46:11] <inferno-sec> this switch prevents both read/write to clipboard
[07:46:24] <inferno-sec> whereas dompaste is just for clipboard read
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[07:47:17] <inferno-sec> basically both firefox, opera prevent access to clipboard. this a bad security vulnerability since in background web page can continuously change clipboard and lets you type a command in shell and ...
[07:47:53] <dcheng> inferno-sec: so your change only affects document.execCommand()?
[07:48:02] <inferno-sec> yes
[07:48:13] <dcheng> I still don't see why the new switch is necessary.
[07:48:38] <dcheng> How are people going to use it?
[07:48:43] <inferno-sec> u mean command line switch is not necessary ?
[07:48:59] <dcheng> If a website wants to use document.execCommand(),it's not going to say 'please relaunch Chrome with this command-line'
[07:49:29] <dcheng> I believe the switch is unnecessary, yeah
[07:49:57] <inferno-sec> it can be removed..
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[09:06:14] <jochen__> good morning chromium
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[09:18:36] <danno_> howdy folks! the sheriff is *in*
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[10:10:03] <jeremymos> jorlow,tony^work: ping
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[10:29:58] <rubenbb> hmm, I didn't even know what these vertical tabs everybody was talking about were till he just posted that screenshot :)
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[10:55:32] <jeremymos> I'm about to start trying to roll in the skia patch of doom, anyone around who can review changes to WebKit test expectations, etc ?
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[11:02:46] <jeremymos> jorlow:hey
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[11:11:08] <solvik> hi, with the latest version of chromium (on lucid with the ppa packages), i can't load a gmail page
[11:11:17] <solvik> got that on two machines
[11:20:05] <jorlow> solvik: http://new.crbug.com
[11:20:52] <mnissler> solvik: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43013
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[11:21:47] <solvik> woot, ok :)
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[17:28:26] <stuartmorgan> antivirtel: sounds like a questions for the Moonlight developers
[17:28:37] <kebax> any ideas for the developer tools?
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[17:36:50] <bauerb> kebax: see the channel topic for the best place to ask that question, or file a bug at http://new.crbug.com
[17:37:57] <kebax> okay
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[17:56:06] <disismt> Hi all. I am using 5.0.396.0 (46333) now. Lately (I update my chromium daily) I have seen that Chromium makes a *lot* (around 15-20) of connections for each site I open (like google images etc). Since I am behind a proxy server that limits connections to 8 per ip, my ip invariably gets blocked and the site cannot load properly. Is there any way we can set the maximum no of open connections that Chromium has?
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[18:05:39] <rubenbb> disismt: probably not, but you can look in the Options and in here: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/common/chrome_switches.cc
[18:07:25] <cbentzel> disismt: There isn't an option AFAIK. Can you enter a bug describing the case on crbug.com (or I can do it for you).
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[18:32:16] <cbentzel> disismt: When you mentioned 8 connections per IP, is that per source (your machine) or target (the images server)
[18:36:15] <rsesek> cbentzel: ping
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[18:46:10] <cbentzel> rsesek: pong
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[18:47:55] <rsesek> cbentzel: the new SpdySessionTest.GetPushStream test you landed turned Mac/Linux Valgrind bots red (http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/memory/builders/Linux%20Tests%20(valgrind)(3)/builds/5002). I'm suppressing/filing now.
[18:48:10] <rsesek> can I send you the CL?
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[18:51:46] <maruel> I'll have to do an emergency try server reboot
[18:52:32] <maruel> I'll wait a bit so I don't cancel update steps
[18:55:32] <rubenbb> zloidemon: I just submitted a chromium port to FreeBSD ports :) - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=146302
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[18:56:39] <zloidemon> rubenbb, Good news :) thanks :)
[18:59:12] <cbentzel> rsesek: yes
[18:59:15] <cbentzel> I have a fix as well
[18:59:19] <cbentzel> but suppression is good
[18:59:27] <rsesek> fix is even better :)
[18:59:47] <rsesek> cbentzel: crbug.com/43179 ? multiple traces, so I'm not sure if they're all the same leak or not
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[19:00:39] <cbentzel> rsesek: Oops, I thought it was a fix. valgrind on my local linux client did not report memleak but the trybots do
[19:00:47] <cbentzel> So I'll LGTM the suppression
[19:00:53] <rsesek> k
[19:00:57] <rsesek> uploading it in a sec
[19:01:09] <vandebo> maruel: are you rolling back the try filter change?
[19:01:17] <maruel> vandebo: just partially
[19:01:24] <maruel> only the gtest_filter stuff is broken
[19:01:51] <vandebo> ahh, but skipping test is ok...
[19:02:14] <maruel> yes
[19:02:32] <maruel> it's because it modifies the original BuildStep.command array
[19:02:36] <rsesek> cbentzel: http://codereview.chromium.org/1957001/show
[19:02:51] <vandebo> ohhh
[19:04:17] <maruel> it should use a WithProperties in the command or hook it deeper
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[19:05:49] <vandebo> I'll figure it out
[19:06:13] <vandebo> of course today is when I happen to come in a bit later
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[19:06:58] <maruel> we need to do refactoring to simplify stuff :/
[19:07:36] <dglazkov> good morning, Chromium!
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[19:08:12] <zloidemon> rubenbb, I send this is link to russian channel :)
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[19:08:45] <rubenbb> zloidemon: heh, good, hopefully it gets committed soon
[19:09:37] <willchan> disismt: if you want, i can show you where you can edit the code to limit the number of connections
[19:09:39] <hwennborg> morning
[19:09:48] <willchan> but no, there is no option for it right now
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[19:11:49] <rsesek> is the try server open again?
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[19:15:29] <maruel> rsesek: not yet
[19:15:39] <rsesek> okay
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[19:15:59] <maruel> I wanted to let the last slave finish its update step
[19:16:13] <maruel> but it's dead slow, downloading whole sputnik test suite...
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[19:24:45] <maruel> rsesek: go ahead
[19:24:52] <rsesek> maruel: thanks!
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[19:35:32] <PasNox> Hi
[19:35:45] <PasNox> since some days i have problems with chromium on my linux box.
[19:35:54] <fta> "linux/beta (5.0.342.9 -> 5.0.375.29)", is that correct? looks like a big jump for a beta
[19:36:05] <PasNox> many website never load and chromimu infinitly try to load them.
[19:36:28] <willchan> fta: i think it's correct
[19:36:40] <PasNox> i have tested chromium on windows and mac os x, and the pages loads correctly.
[19:36:52] <willchan> we've been updating the 375 branch for a few dev rounds now to stabilize it to prepare it for beeta
[19:36:58] <PasNox> the pages that fails on chromium, load perfectly in konqueror
[19:36:58] <willchan> er, s/beeta/beta/
[19:37:15] <fta> willchan, ok, thanks. i guess i have to update lucid now..
[19:37:29] <PasNox> and the pages were loading correctly in chromium for months too :/
[19:37:34] <PasNox> any idea please ?
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[19:40:11] <PasNox> it seem i have many problems with page that are google france base and contains google ad sense :/
[19:41:52] <phajdan-jr> fta: less frequent releases mean larger version number jumps :)
[19:43:18] <fta> phajdan-jr, but i have a hard time justifying the update in the stable version of ubuntu if there's no security fix in the changelog
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[19:49:33] <phajdan-jr> fta: indeed, that might be a problem; in Gentoo we just wait with calling it stable until an official stable release is made
[19:49:43] <stuartmorgan> PasNox: If you are using 393, it's a known bug that's already fixed
[19:50:15] <PasNox> stuartmorgan: ah, let me check that ;)
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[19:51:17] <fta> phajdan-jr, whatever the name (beta, stable or anything), it's the same. i'm trying to get an exception but for now, no security fix, no upload in stable :(
[19:51:36] <fta> phajdan-jr|afk, ^^
[19:51:56] <PasNox> stuartmorgan: effectively 393 ! thanks, i'm upgrading right now ;)
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[19:53:23] <PasNox> stuartmorgan: that fix the problem :D thanks.
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[19:55:31] <Kuzuan> Hey guys, does anyone know if there's a channel where we can ask questions about the Chrome browser?
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[20:00:03] <mpcomplete> Kuzuan: see channel topic
[20:01:35] <Kuzuan> The topic talks about the Chromium OS. I was unable to find anything more relevant to Chrome browser while searching channels.  Are you implying that #chromium-support can also help with Chrome Browser questions?
[20:04:14] <mpcomplete> Kuzuan: yes
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[20:05:51] <Kuzuan> Cool, thanks!
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[20:34:26] <markmentovai> trungl_away: question for you when you stop being away
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[20:44:51] <rsesek> lzheng: valgrind should cycle green. I added suppressions at r46364
[20:45:11] <rsesek> for Mac/Linux, that is
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[20:49:20] <lzheng> rsesek: for the net test?
[20:49:46] <rsesek_away> lzheng: yes (crbug.com/43179)
[20:50:03] <lzheng> resek: thanks.
[20:50:21] <rsesek_away> no problem
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[20:55:58] <conb123> Does anyone remember the name of that site which has lots of java creations that are designed to run in chrome's v8 java engine?
[20:56:42] <evmar> conb123: chrome experiments
[20:57:19] <conb123> Ah thanks a lot man, it was bugging me for ages
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[21:05:34] <leiz> lzheng: did you talk with bradnelson re: cros valgrind?
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[21:07:43] <rohan> after today's google chrome beta update, my about:plugins shows two flash players - the internal google chrome one, and the one in my libs. which one is being used, and how is that determined?
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[21:08:41] <jamesr> the internal one is used
[21:09:23] <rohan> jamesr: then why is the external one shown in about:plugins ? and is it ok, or necessary, to disable that external one?
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[21:13:43] <jamesr> rohan: i dunno where this is documented but it should be somewhere. could you check the official support forums? if there isn't something there about it there probably should be
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[21:14:33] <trungl> markmentovai: I have stopped being away (as you can see).
[21:14:40] <markmentovai> trungl: excellent!
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[21:15:05] <markmentovai> trungl: my question: i?ve outfitted the chrome i?m currently running with some extra logging to watch for zombies
[21:15:15] <markmentovai> trungl: one of the things i?m logging is child processes as we exec them
[21:15:36] * trungl waits patiently for a question.
[21:15:37] <markmentovai> trungl: i?m seeing us run /bin/ps -o pid=,ppid=,ruid=,uid=,rss=,vsz=,comm= -p 88574 -p 88833 -p 88589 -p 88588 -p 88587 -p 88586 periodically
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[21:15:44] <markmentovai> trungl: those are all our pids
[21:15:50] <markmentovai> trungl: i thought we wouldn?t run ps anymore for our own pids
[21:15:55] <markmentovai> what?s up here?
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[21:16:32] <jamesr> is that the memory checker thingy?
[21:16:50] <jamesr> can you drop a breakpoint on the exec?
[21:16:52] <markmentovai> yeah, but we should have a better way to get those stats for our own processes
[21:16:52] <trungl> markmentovai: hmmm, so thakis should have made this checking redundant for our own pids
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[21:16:57] <rohan> jamesr: ok i'm trying to search
[21:17:02] <trungl> (I thought)
[21:17:08] <markmentovai> trungl: me too
[21:17:14] <trungl> unless he didn't finish that
[21:17:16] <markmentovai> but thakis is even less here than you were
[21:17:25] <rohan> jamesr: but isn't it strange that the new internal plugin was installed ,enabled, and used without me even accepting the licence agreement?
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[21:17:50] <trungl> markmentovai: unfortunately, I don't know any more than you do
[21:17:59] <markmentovai> ok. i'll just file the bug then
[21:18:08] <jamesr> rohan: you installed google chrome without accepting a license agreement?
[21:18:29] <rohan> jamesr: no, but back when i had installed it, there was no internal flash.
[21:19:06] <trungl> markmentovai: let's accumulate a large pile of bugs for thakis, for when he joins us
[21:19:21] <jamesr> i suppose strangeness is in the eye of the beholder
[21:20:26] <rohan> jamesr: the original licence agreement of chrome surely didn't cover the clause "we'll change our TOS and assume implicit agreement"
[21:20:29] <rohan> or did it?
[21:20:37] <rohan> i am not complainig.. i am just curious.
[21:20:50] <jamesr> i'm not a lawyer so i do not think i can answer that, sorry
[21:21:11] <evmar> did the license agreement change?
[21:21:26] <rohan> evmar: yes, it did
[21:21:33] <rohan> i just checked about:terms
[21:21:36] <evmar> wow, got a link/
[21:21:53] <rohan> yes, about:terms
[21:21:57] <jamesr> that is a link :P
[21:22:01] <rohan> just search for "flash"
[21:22:15] <evmar> rohan: i will ask about it
[21:22:26] <rohan> jamesr: and i couldn't find any documentation regarding the entry for flash appearing twice.. can you please point me in the right direction?
[21:22:58] <jamesr> rohan: can you post a question on the user support forum? they will definitely know where the documentation is (or who needs to create it if it doesn't). i don't know myself
[21:23:11] <rohan> evmar: thanks.. are you a part of the dev team? strange thing is, on the dev channel, to enable internal flash, you had to pass a command line argument and then accept the licence. this time, on beta, it was used without asking me, and without me agreeing to it
[21:23:40] <jamesr> i _think_ that the internal one is always used if it is not disabled, but i'm not 100%
[21:23:57] <rohan> jamesr: yes, i would assume the same, just wanted to confirm it
[21:24:20] <stuartmorgan> rohan: it is used if not disabled
[21:25:13] <stuartmorgan> rohan: when plugins are scanned to find one to handle a certain extension or MIME type, the first match wins, and the internal plugin is loaded first
[21:25:31] <stuartmorgan> There is debate about how to best communicate this in the about:plugins page
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[21:26:08] <jamesr> i think we should have a support forum snippet or mini blog post or something to clear this up while we figure out the UI
[21:27:37] <rohan> thank you, stuartmorgan
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[21:29:17] <rohan> evmar: btw, i think the terms might have a clause, something like, "The TOS can change any time without explicitly notifying the user", and hence the plugin might be used without consent. just a guess.
[21:30:41] <rohan> evmar: aha, just check clause 4.2
[21:30:46] <stuartmorgan> And 18
[21:31:18] <rohan> and 18
[21:31:19] <rohan> yes
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[21:32:03] <evmar> i wonder how this works for web sites
[21:32:11] <evmar> like if they change the terms on a web site, do they re-ask each user?
[21:32:16] <stuartmorgan> rohan: and fyi, recent dev channel builds didn't use a flag either
[21:32:17] <evmar> web sites normally don't make you accept their terms, i guess
[21:32:35] <stuartmorgan> evmar: every site I've seen with terms has a clause that they can change them without notice at any time
[21:33:29] <rohan> evmar: depends on how significant the changes are perceived, whether the web site wants to given an option to the user, and whether the original TOS had such a clause
[21:33:58] <rohan> stuartmorgan: ok that's just awesome.. lesser clicks for the user
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[21:34:37] <rohan> google chrome for linux 64bit still does not have an internal flash plugin right?
[21:34:59] <evmar> rohan: right
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[21:35:14] <evmar> rohan: we're waiting for an non-beta 64 from adobe
[21:35:45] <rohan> i hope one is released fast.. because the beta is really nice, worth being 'stable'
[21:36:02] <oshima> sheriffs: looks like I broke linux_view/chromeos build. reverting my change.
[21:36:20] <evmar> rohan: unless you use hulu ;)
[21:36:30] <evmar> rohan: ah, maybe you're outside of the US
[21:36:41] <rohan> evmar: oh there are issues with hulu and 64bit flash linux?
[21:36:52] <rohan> right, india.. no hulu for me :)
[21:37:10] <evmar> http://www.hulu.com/discussions/9 , search for 64  :)
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[21:38:21] <rohan> evmar: ok, that's just hulu blocking it.. not a flash player problem pe rse
[21:38:37] <evmar> nah, flash beta lacks some drm feature hulu requires
[21:39:00] <rohan> oh ok.. i should have read further then ;)
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[21:51:11] <dcheng> trungl: you around?
[21:51:17] <trungl> dcheng: yes?
[21:51:34] <dcheng> trungl: did you have to do anything strange to merge things to third_party/mozilla?
[21:51:49] <dcheng> It looks like the files all usde to be in third_party/mozilla/include, and someone moved them out.
[21:51:52] <trungl> dcheng: sigh, yeah, it moved
[21:51:58] <dcheng> I tried to use drover to merge it and it got all confused.
[21:52:15] <dcheng> Got any tips?
[21:52:26] <trungl> I bailed out in the middle of drovering, fixed it manually, etc.
[21:52:30] <dcheng> Ugh.
[21:52:55] <trungl> the more sane approach is to check out the 375 branch and actually fix things directly on it
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[21:53:20] <trungl> (I'm lazy/impatient, so I like to play with fire)
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[22:07:32] <dpranke> maruel: ping
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[22:08:33] <maruel> dpranke: pong
[22:08:54] <dpranke> maruel: do we track the cycle time of the bots somewhere?
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[22:10:15] <maruel> yes, /stats
[22:10:39] <maruel> e.g. http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/stats
[22:11:13] <maruel> then click on a builder for more canvas awesomeness
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[22:14:26] <pinkerton> mrossetti: ping?
[22:17:05] <sky__> Anyone know what Entwickler-Build 46217 is?
[22:17:24] <evmar> sky__: Entwickler = developer in german
[22:17:36] <evmar> sky__: it's a german build, probably chromium
[22:17:47] <sky__> Does the version number corresond to our revisions then?
[22:17:50] <evmar> yeah
[22:17:52] <sky__> ok, tx
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[22:18:00] <evmar> i'm not sure if that's dev channel or not
[22:18:18] <sky__> linux build?
[22:18:20] <mrossetti> pinkerton: pong
[22:18:37] <pinkerton> mrossetti: what's the status of bug 42982? think you can get to that quickly?
[22:18:45] <evmar> sky__: likely, i'm not sure where the Entwickler comes from
[22:18:51] <mrossetti> It's done but for the unittest.
[22:18:57] <mrossetti> Working that now.
[22:19:02] <sky__> evmark: tx!
[22:19:17] <mrossetti> pinkerton: should be ready within 90 minutes.
[22:19:35] <lzheng> rsesek: valgrind net is still failing.
[22:20:23] <pinkerton> mrossetti: ok cool
[22:20:57] <lzheng> leiz: yes, I pinged bradnelson. But anyone is welcome to take a look.
[22:21:22] <trungl> markmentovai: ping
[22:21:36] <markmentovai> trungl:
[22:21:47] <trungl> markmentovai: I have somewhat odd repro steps for zombies
[22:21:53] <markmentovai> oh, ok?
[22:22:09] <trungl> markmentovai: what's been working for me is to start Chromium, and very quickly type "about:blank" in the Omnibox and press return
[22:22:49] <trungl> (it's a good question whether "quickly" is necessary)
[22:23:10] <markmentovai> do you get a zombie right away?
[22:23:12] <markmentovai> does it work if you paste it?
[22:23:41] <trungl> markmentovai: I get a zombie immediately (and it doesn't look like "quickly" is needed
[22:23:48] <trungl> let me if pasting works
[22:23:56] <markmentovai> does it work with a new tab too?
[22:24:02] <markmentovai> as opposed to a freshly-started app?
[22:24:13] <trungl> pasting works
[22:24:24] <trungl> lemme check the new tab case
[22:25:50] <trungl> markmentovai: it doesn't seem to work for a new tab (keeping in mind that I'm running on a fresh profile (so the initial tab differs from a new tab)
[22:25:56] <markmentovai> gotcha
[22:26:01] <trungl> it seems to work with the first tab (or renderer?)
[22:26:03] <markmentovai> gimme a sec, let me play with that
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[22:29:25] <pcgod> evmar: every continuous build says "Entwickler-Build" if you change the ui language to german
[22:29:38] <evmar> that is a funny thing to translate
[22:30:08] <pcgod> (and chrome is "Offizieller Build" ...)
[22:30:31] <markmentovai> trungl: this is clearly timing-sensitive. i see it, only with a fresh profile, when i've got stdout and stderr on the terminal window, but not when redirected to a file.
[22:31:15] <markmentovai> but i do see it, and it's got the same characteristics as what i just posted to the bug. namely, kevent says ESRCH for the pid.
[22:31:38] <trungl> ugh
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[22:34:02] <markmentovai> trungl: it?s a death race :)
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[22:37:15] <trungl> markmentovai: so why isn't waitpid() reaping it?
[22:37:57] <leiz> lzheng: the bots started compiling on their own
[22:38:06] <leiz> not sure if brad fixed it or what
[22:38:22] <akalin> greetings chromiumites
[22:38:30] <markmentovai> it?s dead but alive
[22:38:36] <akalin> willchan: ping!
[22:38:38] <markmentovai> dead enough that we can?t kqueue it
[22:38:43] <markmentovai> alive enough that we can?t waitpid it
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[22:39:08] <markmentovai> i think i remember from reading the kernel source that it stops being kqueueable before it starts being waitpidable
[22:39:20] <markmentovai> so this is really a death race against the kernel
[22:39:35] <maruel> markmentovai: seems fun
[22:39:38] <trungl> d'oh
[22:39:51] <willchan> akalin: pong
[22:39:57] <markmentovai> trungl: fortunately, i think we can detect this
[22:40:02] <markmentovai> and work around
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[22:41:57] <akalin> willchan: so we talked previously about NetworkChange{Observer,Notifier}Proxy living in chrome/browser/sync/net
[22:42:28] <akalin> but it turns out I want to add something to IOThread like 'NetworkChangeNotifier* CreateNetworkChangeNotifierForThread()'
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[22:43:34] <akalin> but that would introduce a dependency of IOThread to sync
[22:43:40] <akalin> which seems weird
[22:44:00] <akalin> perhaps chrome/browser/net?
[22:44:34] <trungl> markmentovai: it's not looking very race-condition-y to me; going to about:blank / about:terms (and others?) seems to fairly reliably create zombies for me right now
[22:44:42] <markmentovai> :)
[22:44:44] <markmentovai> fortunatley, me too
[22:44:47] <markmentovai> i have a fix
[22:45:06] <markmentovai> it?s like i say: once we can reliably reproduce a bug, anything?s fixable
[22:45:10] <trungl> excellent
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[22:45:38] <trungl> we need more variety in undead
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[22:47:50] <willchan> akalin: i'm not sure why you need a CreateNetworkChangeNotifierForThread() function
[22:47:58] <willchan> akalin: can you clarify further?
[22:48:14] <maruel> willchan: yeah, it should have a HostDelegate
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[22:55:06] <akalin> willchan: basically i need to grab the NCN from the IOThread so I can create a proxy to wrap it
[22:55:27] <akalin> but one can only access the IOThread's NCN on the IOThread (it's in the globals_ member)
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[22:55:59] <akalin> so in the sync thread(s), when it gets spun up, it'll call io_thread()->CreateNetworkChangeNotifierForThread() and use that
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[23:35:20] <skrul_> does anyone know how to specify your build output dir when doing a make build?
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[23:35:39] <dumi> estade: question
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[23:43:27] <pcgod> skrul: make builddir_name=<dir>
[23:45:24] <skrul_> pcgod: thx :)
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[23:49:59] <mrossetti> pinkerton: I'm just waiting on the bot to run all unittests, then I should get someone to take another quick look at the CL. How about you?
[23:50:10] <pinkerton> in meeting
[23:50:24] <mrossetti> meeting schmeeting
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[23:59:12] <trungl_mbp> is snej around?
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[23:59:55] <trungl_mbp> I closed the tree, btw

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