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[01:17:19] <C-S-B> is chromium daily build really broke atm?
[01:17:33] <C-S-B> I cant get facebook to load
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[01:24:33] <LadySerena> grrrrr
[01:24:56] <LadySerena> there seems to be no way for me to manipulate the page while its in the browser
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[02:41:05] <jrabbit> Has anyone made a Sparkle verison of chromium?
[02:41:22] <jrabbit> I really don't want ot have to grab all the sources to just build one feature in
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[04:12:46] <magn3ts> Heh, for the first time ever, running Chromium's nightlies has become a liability. It's been rough using it for the last couple days. Amazon breaks every 6th page or so, it literally can't do a Google search which I find funny. Oh well. It's worth it!
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[06:59:35] <jstar-taiwan> hi, is there a way to en/disable JS like firefox noscript or webdeveloper extension
[07:01:27] <LadySerena> this is the Chromium channel
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[07:02:06] <LadySerena> but, you can disable extensions in Chromium (or Chrome) by clicking on "Extensions" under the "Window" menu
[07:04:46] <jstar-taiwan> LadySerena, is there a chrome channel ?
[07:05:03] <LadySerena> I dunno.
[07:05:22] <LadySerena> #firefox is over on irc.mozilla.org
[07:06:54] <jstar-taiwan> that a question related to chrome, not firefox. I want to quickly enable/disable javascript on chrome to test HTML fallback
[07:08:03] <selckin> bug 37762
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[07:32:20] <albertito> jstar-taiwan: yes
[07:32:42] <jstar-taiwan> albertito, yes what ??
[07:32:45] <albertito> jstar-taiwan: options -> under the hood -> content settings -> javascript
[07:32:58] <jstar-taiwan> albertito, oh cool
[07:33:07] <albertito> jstar-taiwan: if you disallow it, an icon appears next to the star, so you can enable it for a site (you need to reload, tho)
[07:33:28] <albertito> jstar-taiwan: it's not as featureful as noscript, but if you just want to do html testing I think it should work
[07:34:22] <jstar-taiwan> cool work fine :)
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[08:19:40] <wRAR> hello, sometimes main Chromium process starts to eat 100% CPU until killed, this started after upgrading r45279->r45898. how can I debug this?
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[08:45:38] <rubenbb> wRAR: how do you know which process it is?
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[08:47:19] <wRAR> rubenbb: ps/top
[08:47:43] <rubenbb> wRAR: ok, the one with the lowest process id is the one maxing out cpu?
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[08:49:50] <rubenbb> as for debugging it, not sure you can without a debug build, wRAR
[08:49:51] <wRAR> rubenbb: yes
[08:50:09] <rubenbb> you could try searching crbug.com for similar issues
[08:50:18] <rubenbb> what OS?
[08:50:45] <wRAR> Linux
[08:51:45] <rubenbb> linux build has had some issues lately, you may want to upgrade to something more recent
[08:51:54] <rubenbb> or downgrade, either way
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[08:55:41] <rubenbb> wRAR: could it be this bug? http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=21792
[08:55:56] <rubenbb> or flash? http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=42710
[08:57:32] <wRAR> well, it is definitely not tab/plugin process, and it continues to use CPU even after recently opened tabs are closed
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[09:02:54] <rubenbb> how consistently can you reproduce it?  is it random when it happens?
[09:03:30] <wRAR> yes, randomly during browsing
[09:03:42] <wRAR> i.e. I can't reproduce it
[09:04:22] <jochen__> good morning chromium
[09:04:58] <rubenbb> ok, then unless you build a debug build and put it through a debugger, not much you can debug
[09:05:24] <rubenbb> you can either open a ticket or just hope it goes away again when you upgrade
[09:06:48] <wRAR> I see
[09:14:43] <danno_> good morning everybody
[09:14:49] <danno_> i'll be your sheriff on the east side of the Atlantic today
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[16:57:30] <danno_> phajdan-jr: The bug and CL seem to indicate you already disabled it on win, are you just going to extend to all platforms?
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[16:59:03] <phajdan-jr> danno_: yes, and done
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[17:02:04] <phajdan-jr> danno_: btw, some webkit_tests are failing consistently on Mac
[17:02:53] <phajdan-jr> it could be dglazkov's webkit roll, r46203, 58541:58626
[17:03:19] <danno_> phajdan-jr: yes, I saw this.
[17:03:52] <danno_> phajdan-jr: as a n00b sheriff, what can/should I do about this?
[17:04:15] <phajdan-jr> danno_: I'd contact dglazkov (apparently not on irc now), or today's webkit gardener
[17:04:49] <danno_> phajdan-jr: will do, thanks.
[17:05:05] <pinkerton> dear crbug, please stop sucking. love pink.
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[17:05:28] <trungl> but it sucks because it loves
[17:05:39] <andybons> goood morning chromium
[17:05:46] <pinkerton> welcome back
[17:05:49] <trungl> 'morning, andybons!
[17:05:51] <trungl> Welcome back.
[17:06:05] <andybons> glad to be back and ready to kill bugs with no mercy
[17:06:13] <andybons> let's get this fucker launched
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[17:07:41] <stuartmorgan> So we have a bunch of recent bugs filed about hangs and/or crashes just loading pages on the Dev channel... do we have a handle on what's going on, and is there a central bug for it?
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[17:10:14] <stuartmorgan> Hm, may be Linux-only
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[18:00:55] <rryk> Hello. I am no expert in legal issues. Can somebody please tell me if I can publish Chromium with my own modifications to be downloaded for free? Can I use "Chromium" in the name?
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[18:02:20] <agl> rryk: we're not lawyers either. However, Chromium is under a BSD license and that's pretty standard.
[18:02:26] <dglazkov> good morning, Chromium!
[18:02:42] <agl> rryk: although keep in mind that WebKit (the rendering engine which we share with Safari and others) is LGPL
[18:03:01] <rryk> agl: does it restict me somehow?
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[18:03:27] <agl> rryk: if you modify WebKit then I believe that you have to publish the modified source
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[18:03:43] <agl> rryk: again, LGPL is a very common license, you can just search for information on it.
[18:03:54] <rryk> agl: alright... that't not a problem for me
[18:04:01] <rryk> agl: thank you
[18:04:05] <agl> rryk: but several groups already publish modified Chromium binaries and that's just fine
[18:04:24] <agl> rryk: you certainly can't call it Google Chrome, although I'm not sure about the trademark status of "Chromium"
[18:04:31] <rryk> agl: I guess I will just put a notice that if somebody need sources -- they can contact me
[18:05:04] <agl> rryk: preferably you just publish the diffs against a named git commit
[18:05:13] <agl> rryk: in order to stay sane you're going to have to use git anyway.
[18:05:23] <rryk> agl: I use git :)
[18:06:26] <agl> dglazkov: morning! Any idea why the layout test result ZIP files contain random other test results in font-face-woff-expected.png? ("No" is a perfectly reasonable answer :)
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[18:06:45] <dglazkov> No :)
[18:06:55] <dglazkov> But that sounds bad.
[18:07:35] <dglazkov> any video folks out here?
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[18:43:24] <m0> Can anyone on a Mac tell me is it prints out "true" here? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1801758/keyboard.html
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[18:44:56] <pinkerton> [Key code: 65] [Meta key: false]
[18:45:11] <pinkerton> is that what you want?
[18:45:17] <m0> Can you try with the "command" key ?
[18:45:35] <m0> I thought event.metaKey is the command key.
[18:45:44] <pinkerton> it doesn't post until the cmd key is released
[18:45:52] <pinkerton> then [Key code: 91] [Meta key: false]
[18:46:07] <pinkerton> (for cmd-j)
[18:46:27] <pinkerton> which is a disabled menu item, actually
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[18:46:29] <pinkerton> so all bets are off
[18:46:30] <m0> How am I going to catch the command key then?
[18:46:41] <pinkerton> i hate sites that do that
[18:46:43] <pinkerton> personally
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[18:50:30] <m0> Thanks, I will tell the user command key is not supported in JavaScript.
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[19:29:20] <andyross> Bad build last night?   I'm getting hangs on most search queries, and also wikipedia and google when visited "straight".  Backing off to the 0427 build fixed it.
[19:29:46] <mirandac> sheriffs: in a mtg for next 20 min or so, feel free to just revert my change if it does bad things...
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[19:32:49] <nikolasco> andyross: I've had a similar experience
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[19:49:07] <jrabbit> http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/bymkx/anyone_else_have_problems_with_webkit_recently/ Hey is this in the bug list?
[19:50:04] <jrabbit> I've got the same problem in 5.0.394.0 (46056)
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[19:57:22] <jamesr> jrabbit: check bugs.webkit.org
[19:57:28] <jamesr> and if you don't see it, please do file
[19:57:41] <jrabbit> I don't know what I'm looking for
[19:58:30] <jamesr> you can always just file it
[19:58:43] <jamesr> it will be duped if needed. i gotta run to a meeting
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[20:18:03] <evmar> heh, vista tests fail
[20:18:14] <evmar> when i checked in a change to a linux-only shell script that isn't run as part of the build :~(
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[20:26:46] <estade> sheriffs?
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[20:27:00] <estade> vista tests dbg got past the unit_tests stage this run
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[20:27:04] <estade> must have been flake
[20:27:05] <estade> I'm reopining
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[20:27:09] <estade> re-opening
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[20:30:04] <evmar> sheriffs are afk it seems
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[20:34:05] <lzheng> I am back. Thanks for opening the tree.
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[20:43:44] * pinkerton wonders why qa is verifying mac-specific bugs on linux
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[20:44:39] <akalin> boo mac sync crashers
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[20:54:25] <markmentovai> pinkerton: example?
[20:54:52] <pinkerton> markmentovai: bug 41675
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[20:55:38] <markmentovai> deepakg verified it too, so at least it?s really-verified in addition to who-cares-verifieid
[20:55:49] <akalin> markmentovai: hello
[20:55:52] <markmentovai> akalin:
[20:56:03] <akalin> i'm lookign at http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43048
[20:56:17] <markmentovai> excellent.
[20:56:21] <akalin> it seems like the problem is that the profile goes NULL during browser shutdown
[20:56:25] <markmentovai> of course it does
[20:56:40] <akalin> well, and that for some reason the menu is being redrawn
[20:56:50] <markmentovai> looks like we?re in MenuSelect there
[20:56:55] <markmentovai> i.e. user working with a menu
[20:57:14] <akalin> so someone's looking at the menus and, say, hits Cmd-Q?
[20:57:52] <markmentovai> someone?s probably hit cmd-q and started playing with the menus during the time between that (when shutdown begins) and when the process actually exits
[20:57:58] <markmentovai> that time is normally short but it may be long
[20:58:07] <markmentovai> trungl: is the point man here.
[20:58:13] <akalin> okay
[20:58:26] <akalin> this seems like it would have been a chronic problem
[20:58:30] <akalin> i'm just wondering why it would show up only now
[20:58:35] <akalin> trungl: ^^
[20:58:37] <markmentovai> it's been rewritten in the past few weeks
[20:58:41] <akalin> i see
[20:58:58] <markmentovai> it may need more work, but in the meantime, if it's showing up as a live crash, we may want some wallpaper over it
[20:59:14] <markmentovai> that is to say, we *know* that shutdown needs more work, and trungl ought to be aware of this specific case
[20:59:25] <akalin> okay, i'll proceed with that for now and talk to trungl when he's back
[20:59:35] <markmentovai> thanks for the quick response
[20:59:37] <trungl> akalin: I am actually back
[20:59:43] <akalin> hello!
[20:59:44] <trungl> and am pondering the issue
[20:59:50] <markmentovai> discuss amongst yourselves
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[20:59:59] <markmentovai> (i'll give you a topic.)
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[21:01:19] <trungl> akalin: I don't think it's a bad idea to check whether the profile is NULL or not
[21:02:00] <trungl> probably we should deactivate the menus once we're shutting down (for real)
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[21:02:15] <trungl> though I'm not sure how this should work
[21:02:26] <akalin> okay
[21:02:28] <trungl> (and not sure we can prevent drawing in any case)
[21:02:35] <akalin> i'll put the check in app_controller_mac.mm for now
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[21:02:56] <trungl> ok
[21:04:03] <akalin> it seems like a similar crash may happen in commandDispatch
[21:04:17] <akalin> but if it's not showing up I guess we don't have to worry about it
[21:04:53] <markmentovai> akalin: i'd whack 'em both in one fell swoop
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[21:05:58] <akalin> yeah
[21:06:34] <markmentovai> we don?t crash at half the rate of windows chrome because we let things like this go. :)
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[21:10:56] <pinkerton> heh
[21:11:14] <akalin> should I bother logging anything?
[21:11:47] <akalin> i'm more apprehensive about wallpapering commandDispatch as that means selecting menu items will just not work
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[21:14:39] <markmentovai> not work > crash
[21:14:46] <akalin> yeah
[21:15:05] <markmentovai> i wouldn't do anything more than a DLOG, if even that
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[21:18:58] <akalin> markmentovai, trungl: ok, code review sent
[21:19:21] <markmentovai> nice. lemme get you some instareview.
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[21:20:47] <tittiatcoke> I get a segmentation fault in the function tcmalloc::CentralFreeList::FetchFromSpans().  This however happens on openSUSE:Factory (GCC 4.5 and glibc 2.11), the one compiled for 11.2 (GCC 4.4 and glibc 2.10) is working fine.
[21:23:22] <pcgod> I'm building without tcmalloc on opensuse factory and it's completly broken... :) (renderer crashes, oom check failures with really high values etc)
[21:24:13] <tittiatcoke> pcgod: I see. How can I switch off tcmalloc ?
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[21:26:18] <pcgod> there is a gyp variable for that, afaik it's linux_tcmalloc
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[21:26:32] <phajdan-jr> eroman: ping
[21:27:08] <tittiatcoke> pcgod: found that one :-)
[21:27:15] <feldstein> mmoss: ping
[21:27:23] <mmoss> feldstein: pong
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[21:27:45] <feldstein> I saw your name on the gyp bug regarding recursive copying.  Were you the one who fixed that?
[21:28:20] <mmoss> feldstein: I did the scons and make changes I think
[21:28:36] <feldstein> but not the windows side?  I'm still getting errors in VS
[21:28:38] <mmoss> I think bradnelson did the MSVS changes
[21:28:47] <mmoss> feldstein: let me check
[21:29:04] <feldstein> the error i get is Error	1	error PRJ0019: A tool returned an error code from "Copying browser/resources/shared to C:\Users\feldstein\Documents\Projects\chromium\src\chrome\Release/resources\shared"
[21:29:18] <feldstein> it looks like it's adding a / when it should be a \
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[21:34:26] <akalin> markmentovai, trungl: comments addressed, new patch: http://codereview.chromium.org/1845002/show
[21:34:31] <akalin> brb, meeting
[21:35:29] <mmoss> feldstein: which gyp target is this?
[21:35:48] <feldstein> there's a component_extension target in chrome_browser.gypi
[21:36:03] <feldstein> right now i list out all the files for resources/bookmark_manager and resources/shared, and want to make it recursive
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[21:41:26] <Youst> Hi! I've got problem with the last build of chromium for ubuntu; is there any way to go back on an earlier build ?
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[21:49:04] <Youst> please?
[21:49:57] <Youst> i just cant search on google because tabs crash
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[21:52:23] <phajdan-jr> Youst: it's not the best channel for these questions (see topic). The simplest thing is probably to use a more stable channel (i.e. beta instead of dev).
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[21:53:06] <Youst> phajdan-jr: Oh! Okay! Thank you for answer :)
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[22:12:41] <akalin> markmentovai: sorry, i missed a couple of "we"s :((
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[22:29:05] <akalin> is there an easy way to run chrome in a different language on OS X?
[22:29:12] <akalin> aside from having to change languages in system prefs
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[22:30:04] <thomasvl> akalin: the pref sets a language list in defaults, you can set it only for chrome too. check macosxhints for the defaults key, i know I've seen suggestions for other apps
[22:30:18] <akalin> thomasvl: oh, cool
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[22:30:45] <prasadt> #webkit
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[22:45:10] <akalin> thomasvl: wanna review a Mac-related i18n change for me?
[22:45:22] <akalin> it's a small change
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[22:48:11] <thomasvl> akalin: sure
[22:48:39] <akalin> http://codereview.chromium.org/1886001/show
[22:48:42] <akalin> thanks!
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[23:13:02] <akalin> thomasvl: dynamic button labels make me cry :(
[23:13:21] <thomasvl> akalin: agreed, that gap just worried me
[23:13:41] <thomasvl> go ahead and land this fix for a real bug, but that layout makes me think there is a larger ui problem that needs addressing.
[23:13:53] <akalin> yeah, i filed a bug
[23:14:05] <akalin> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43111
[23:14:08] <trungl> markmentovai / thomasvl: do either of you know why, when running browser_tests, the NSApp delegate (so the app controller) never gets created? Presumably, MainMenu.nib isn't loading.
[23:14:31] <trungl> (this seems bad to me)
[23:14:41] <markmentovai> probably because MainMenu.nib isn't ever loaded :)
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[23:15:51] <markmentovai> normally it?s loaded by chrome/browser/browser_main_mac.mm
[23:16:07] <trungl> markmentovai: yes, and that continues to be called as usual
[23:16:17] <trungl> it looks like the loading of MainMenu.nib fails
[23:16:23] <markmentovai> trungl:   [NSBundle loadNibNamed:@"MainMenu" owner:NSApp];
[23:16:24] <markmentovai> that's the problem
[23:16:29] <markmentovai> it's an NSBundle +method
[23:16:55] <thomasvl> trungl: i believe the test helpers manually startup cocoa, etc
[23:17:03] <thomasvl> it does not expect to startup everything
[23:17:48] <trungl> thomasvl: in the case of browser_tests, it should be starting up a proper browser (and it goes through the bulk of BrowserMain as usual)
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[23:18:24] <thomasvl> trungl: don't forget, it starts the binary twice, which one is wrong?  could be something like that (cause it forks to run the actual tests)
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[23:19:16] <thomasvl> akalin: in fairness, the views support only does the layout at window creation also
[23:19:25] <akalin> really?
[23:19:27] <akalin> oh
[23:19:28] <thomasvl> so dymanic buttons means shuffling views also
[23:19:38] <akalin> i think the views code calls "Relayout()" or something whenever it changes
[23:19:45] <akalin> and i don't think there's a similar call for OS X
[23:19:53] <thomasvl> you can trigger a full layout again if you wanted (could do the same on mac), but the core problem is buttons moving on users then
[23:19:59] <akalin> right
[23:20:07] <akalin> i forgot about that
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[23:20:24] <thomasvl> akalin: we could wrap all to code in init into a layout call and then you'd have one
[23:20:48] <akalin> yeah
[23:20:49] <thomasvl> we haven't bothered cause it doesn't fix the problem of a ui where things move on a user
[23:20:52] <akalin> right
[23:20:58] <akalin> it just seems wrong to have buttons with changing labels
[23:21:09] <thomasvl> ah
[23:21:18] <thomasvl> (stupid focus)
[23:21:21] <akalin> for the reason you mentioned
[23:21:24] <thomasvl> yup.
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[23:25:47] <trungl> markmentovai: so what's the solution to this?
[23:29:39] <trungl> create and init an NSNib manually and tell it to load?
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[23:35:25] <trungl> okay, so that initializes *something* correctly, or more correctly, but now the test I'm running fails
[23:35:27] * trungl sighs
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[23:40:07] <dcheng> pinkerton: how strongly do you feel about crbug.com/43100?
[23:40:36] <pinkerton> it's a regression
[23:40:43] <pinkerton> it's user functionality
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[23:40:50] <pinkerton> should i not feel strongly?
[23:41:02] <markmentovai> dcheng: if we can get a fix in the m5 timeframe, i'd fight to include it
[23:41:13] <markmentovai> visible user-facing regression, it's a big deal
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[23:41:31] <markmentovai> trungl: :(
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[23:41:51] <dcheng> For third_party stuff directly in Chromium's svn, can I just make a patch that changes the files directly?
[23:42:08] <trungl> markmentovai: ?
[23:42:10] <markmentovai> dcheng: you?ll be changing WebCore here?
[23:42:18] <markmentovai> trungl: re your nib difficulties
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[23:42:52] <dcheng> markmentovai: no, I think the fix should be to make [NSString isValidURI] behave as we would expect.
[23:43:17] <markmentovai> dcheng: oh, so a category method?
[23:43:27] <pinkerton> one we got from camino, i believe
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[23:43:41] <dcheng> Yeah, inherited from Camino
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[23:43:59] <markmentovai> note local changes in README.chromium in that acse
[23:44:04] <dcheng> Alright.
[23:44:36] <markmentovai> if our copy winds up diverging significantly, then we might want to just redo the impl from scratch and take it out of third_party altogether
[23:44:47] * markmentovai giggles at @implementation NSString (ChimeraStringUtils)
[23:44:56] <markmentovai> i thought we fixed all of those like 5 years ago
[23:44:59] <leiz> lzheng: are you going to revert r46232? the CrOS bot has been red all day
[23:45:01] <pinkerton> guess not :)
[23:45:03] <leiz> danno_away: ^
[23:45:21] <leiz> if you're not, I will
[23:45:53] <markmentovai> dcheng: for example, the local change can just be to #if 0 the -isValidURI method, and we can put our own NSString+ChromeUtils in chrome/ somewhere
[23:46:22] <markmentovai> if we're doing a reimplementation instead of a modification
[23:46:22] <markmentovai> got it?
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[23:46:42] <dcheng> Sounds good.
[23:48:35] * leiz reverts
[23:51:26] <leiz> (and no, I'm not lzheng's alternate personality)
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[23:58:00] <hayleyw> extenal_extensions.json works fine as long as only one extension is listed, but i cant get it to work if multiple extensions are listed. none of the extensions get loaded. can someone please confirm/deny this?
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