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[00:00:12] <cjb> Anyone happen to know whether switching use flags from opengles to opengl should be enough to bring in mesa and the software path okay?
[00:00:22] * cjb has made the change, now waiting a few hours for the build to finish.
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[00:11:31] <kliegs> cjb:  Switching USE flags and running build_packages will usually do the right thing but I've seen cases where it hasn't.  if it doesn't work doing setup_board --force to clobber might be needed
[00:11:46] <cjb> kliegs: I did that too, just in case :)
[00:11:49] <kliegs> cjb: And good luck with it - weekends starting so heading home for me.  Hope to hear good news from you later
[00:12:04] <kliegs> cjb:  Good call
[00:12:07] <cjb> sure.  the news is already pretty good, in that it boots up and starts X and tries to get their UI going.
[00:12:11] <cjb> *the
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[00:12:22] <cjb> thanks for the help!
[00:12:24] <kliegs> Nice.
[00:12:38] <kliegs> keep an eye on /var/log/ui/ui.LATEST  (my case might be slightly off)
[00:12:47] <cjb> yep, that's where I saw the EGL error
[00:12:48] <kliegs> it dumps the output from the session_manager and chrome
[00:13:10] <cjb> (and then the session dies; so I presume that the EGL error caused that, though it's not necessarily causal)
[00:13:23] <kliegs> sounds like you've got it well in hand then.  enjoy the weekend
[00:13:29] <cjb> thanks, you too
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[00:28:27] <ellyjones> bwahaha scottz
[00:28:40] <ellyjones> oh, no, cmasone
[00:28:42] <ellyjones> cmasone: :D
[00:29:15] <cmasone> ellyjones: ?
[00:29:19] <gauravsh> who why what?
[00:29:33] <cmasone> gauravsh: ellyjones
[00:29:40] <cmasone> gauravsh: scottz
[00:30:21] <ellyjones> cmasone: http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/detail?id=18093
[00:30:33] <ellyjones> the crosbot source is awful, is the problem :P
[00:30:36] <cmasone> ellyjones: is that the issue I just filed about crosbot?
[00:30:37] <cmasone> ah
[00:30:39] <ellyjones> yeah
[00:30:45] <cmasone> ellyjones: well...that ain't my fault ;-)
[00:30:47] <ellyjones> how does one make a google code project?
[00:31:28] <cmasone> ellyjones: http://code.google.com/hosting/createProject
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[00:32:13] <ellyjones> excellent
[00:34:29] <ellyjones> google code is SO slow sometimes
[00:34:45] <gauravsh> ellyjones: would you put up under the WTFPL license?
[00:34:54] <gauravsh> s/put up/put the source up/
[00:35:01] <ellyjones> I just picked Apache 2
[00:35:16] <ellyjones> when I hit 'settings' on code.google.com it's like "lol no"
[00:35:17] <cmasone> gauravsh: the What The Fsck Public License?
[00:35:36] <gauravsh> yes, that's my favorite
[00:35:58] <gauravsh> simple and to the point. reflects what I feel about open source licenses.
[00:37:08] <gauravsh> hmm, interesting. WTFPL is not approved by OSI: http://www.opensource.org/minutes20090304
[00:38:55] <ellyjones> http://code.google.com/p/crosbot
[00:38:58] <ellyjones> patches accepted :)
[00:39:15] <ellyjones> if someone wants to figure out the automatic-reconnect thing or make it use the JSON API instead of HTML scraping, patches _very_ accepted
[00:40:45] <gauravsh> hah, perl. been a while since i saw any perl code.
[00:40:51] <Fractal> I have a dual-boot Chrome OS / Ubuntu (on a Samsung Chromebook), both using a custom Chromium OS kernel (2.6.38.3), but for some reason the main speaker does not work in Ubuntu
[00:41:05] <ellyjones> yeah - I wrote it by way of learning Coro and AnyEvent (which is part of why it's so ugly :P)
[00:41:40] <Fractal> It works in Chrome OS with the exact same kernel and modules, it works in Ubuntu with the Chrome OS kernel (2.6.32+...), and headphones work
[00:42:12] <ellyjones> gauravsh: note the pro manual unescape in stats/tree.pm :)
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[00:42:48] <Fractal> I tried to load every module that are loaded in Chrome OS with the same kernel, but this still does not work
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[00:43:10] <Fractal> I don?t understand what is wrong
[00:43:48] <gauravsh> ellyjones: hah, just saw that. i am sure there is a cpan module for that.
[00:43:56] <ellyjones> I mean, the proper approach is the JSON api
[00:44:07] <quiche> pah -- the WTFPL is just a knock of off earlier work by kohler. :P
[00:45:25] <ellyjones> so I think the no-reconnect problem is caused by the connect function returning :)
[00:45:32] <ellyjones> since then that coro dies
[00:46:19] <gauravsh> quiche: kohler who?
[00:46:38] <quiche> gauravsh: search for open profanity license
[00:48:01] <gauravsh> hahaha
[00:48:46] <gauravsh> surprisingly, wikipedia doesn't have a page on it. nor is it referenced in the entry for wtfpl.
[00:49:04] <quiche> typical CS... reinventing the wheel out of ignorance. :)
[00:49:58] <quiche> i suppose i should update the wikipedia page, though.
[00:51:16] <gauravsh> OPL isn't exactly open though - you need to be a dumbshit and fscking idiot to be able to anything that you fscking you want with the code. where's the freedom in that.
[00:51:57] <jrbarnette> fractal: in Chromium OS, speakers are initialized by /etc/init/alsa-default.conf
[00:52:04] <quiche> hmm. you have a point... what if i don't want to be a dumbshit and a fscking idiot, right?
[00:52:22] <jrbarnette> fractal: you might need similar code to run for Ubuntu
[00:53:31] <gauravsh> quiche: exactly
[00:54:35] <cjb> oh yeah -- by the way, I built my last image on Fedora
[00:54:42] <cjb> so the chroot setup works great there too
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[00:56:33] <ellyjones> there, now with 100% more autoreconnect
[00:56:38] <ellyjones> still hosted somewhere shitty though :)
[00:59:41] <Fractal> jrbarnette: only in Chromium OS? Because the same Ubuntu with the (official) Chrome OS kernel works fine
[01:00:16] <Fractal> jrbarnette: and I tried to copy /etc/init/alsa-default.conf from Chromium OS to Ubuntu, still no sound
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[01:12:19] <mtennant> sheriff signing off for the day
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[02:59:39] <jrbarnette> fractal: copying the file won't work; just try executing the commands, and see if they make the speakers work
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[03:05:44] <vpalatin> nightplus
[03:05:49] <vpalatin> oups
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[06:25:41] <cjb> odd - I did s/opengles/opengl/ in use flags, since I don't have working 3D yet, and got:
[06:25:42] <cjb> o3d-87643: /usr/libexec/gcc/armv7a-cros-linux-gnueabi/ld: cannot find libGLEW.so.a
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[07:58:45] <ojn> cjb: probably bitrot. I would hassle marcheu ( at chromium dot org) (cc chromium-os-dev at chromium dot org).
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[07:59:01] <ojn> Oh, he's here on irc too, just not with the bit set
[08:00:28] <cjb> oh, neat, I didn't realize marcheu works on cros
[08:01:09] <cjb> looks like I'm forbidden from joining c-o-dev
[08:01:16] <cjb> ah, wait, this is the old group
[08:13:29] <cjb> ojn: thanks, mailed
[08:15:30] <ojn> cjb: oh, o3d? you should be able to leave it out of your build I thought. But I'm not sure, and I have to bail for the night.
[08:16:20] <cjb> ojn: ah.  I wonder how I'd do that.
[08:16:22] <cjb> g'night
[08:19:40] <ojn> cjb: drop the line in src/third_party/chromiumos-overlay/chromeos-base/chromeos/chromeos-0.0.1-r<foo>.ebuild
[08:20:06] <cjb> thanks
[08:21:02] <marcheu> cjb: hey!
[08:21:42] <marcheu> yeah o3d and !x86 doesn't fly
[08:22:08] <marcheu> about a software mesa version, it'll work but it'll be fairly slow since we use opengl for compositing
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[08:22:25] <cjb> marcheu: howdy!
[08:22:35] <marcheu> well it'll still be usable because we disable compositing when we have a single window
[08:22:36] <cjb> marcheu: yep, that's okay, I heard that.  we do have EGL for this platform, it's just not brought up yet.
[08:22:41] <marcheu> cool
[08:22:48] <marcheu> well, life's good
[08:22:51] <cjb> so dropping the o3d line from the ebuild is the right fix?
[08:22:51] <marcheu> you?
[08:22:54] <marcheu> yeah
[08:23:05] <cjb> cool.  yep, better now I understand why my build fails :-)
[08:24:07] <marcheu> if you have anything X/graphics drivers that you want to upstream, let me know
[08:24:16] <cjb> heh, I'd love to..
[08:24:23] <cjb> we're working with a Vivante GPU
[08:24:32] <cjb> it's not the funnest thing ever
[08:24:52] <marcheu> more binary drivers?
[08:25:37] <cjb> yup
[08:25:55] <marcheu> hehe ok. note that for gles support you'll need the eglimage extension for the window manager
[08:26:00] <marcheu> not all drivers have it
[08:26:18] <cjb> ooh, ok, thanks
[08:26:22] <marcheu> and... the one to update subbuffers, but you can hack your way around that one easily
[08:27:50] <marcheu> gotta go, but highlight if you have more questions
[08:28:05] <cjb> sure thing, thanks
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[11:06:14] <borios_> If I want to build all packages to another arm architecture (not armv7), what should i do?
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[15:31:25] <Fractal> If I start a (Chromium OS) kernel on KERN-C with an official Chrome OS rootfs on ROOT-A, what will happen when Chrome OS will want to autoupdate?
[15:32:31] <Fractal> It will update KERN-B and ROOT-B? It will change the priorities only of KERN-A and KERN-B or also of KERN-C?
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