[00:03:57] <ferringb> njw: cwolfe: also need to ensure whatever you're trying to set as a virtual, has PROVIDE=<the-virtual> ...
[00:05:28] * ferringb notes the profiles just specify what the default provider is
[00:05:39] <ferringb> ebuild's themselves state if they can fulfill the virtual or not
[00:05:44] <njw> right.
[00:06:22] <cwolfe> and IIRC if you have the "wrong" virtual installed that default will not have any effect :)
[00:06:39] <njw> my current puzzle is that the virtuals file, which I've confirmed is being read, has "virtual/chromeos-bsp chromeos-base/chromeos-bsp-myboard".
[00:06:43] <ferringb> default is just that; absense of any other input, here's the default provider for a virtual
[00:07:10] <njw> but strace shows that emerge and friends keep looking for chromeos-bsp and never even look for a file named chromeos-bsp-myboard.
[00:07:15] <njw> er, directory.
[00:09:59] <njw> but the precise meaning of the virtuals file is far from clear.
[00:11:53] <ferringb> it specifies the default provider for a virtual
[00:11:57] <ferringb> just that; nothing more
[00:14:17] <njw> so.... is there an ordering when there are multiple virtual files floating around a tree? What selects among multiple things that provide virtual/foo?
[00:15:27] <ferringb> roughly: if there is a dep on virtual/blah, and nothing in the graph provides virtual/blah, than the default from the profiles is used
[00:15:55] <ferringb> default is calculated via usual profile semantics- basically tracing out the tree, finding (roughly) the rightmost definition of a default virtual
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[00:16:25] <ferringb> looking that up admittedly is a mild pain in the ass; I've got some code for it, but I need to make it work w/ chromeos first
[00:16:55] <ferringb> njw: check portageq expand_virtual
[00:26:16] <ferringb> njw: scratch that; expand_virtual is new style virtuals only (the literal virtual/* ebuilds)
[00:38:47] <vpalatin> rcui, chocobo__ : I have asked Anton to check the build failure  on U-Boot
[00:39:26] <vpalatin> his changeset looks to be the culprit event though it is not in the changelist ( http://gerrit.chromium.org/gerrit/#change,4101 )
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[00:44:16] <vpalatin> robotboy has pushed the fix : http://gerrit.chromium.org/gerrit/#patch,sidebyside,4122
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[05:52:02] <hashimoto> marcheu: is seems that your change breaks the tree http://gerrit.chromium.org/gerrit/#change,4131
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[06:12:35] <kochi> Do we need to update chromeos/kernel-headers to newer version to have some missing symbols for udev to compile?
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[07:27:02] <marcheu> hashimoto: indeed. sorry about that
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[15:19:59] <fujisan> ellyjones
[15:20:05] <fujisan> is it really you
[15:20:40] <fujisan> Elly Jones won the prize for the won the prize for its multicultural skin care series which addresses different skin care needs of people of different ...
[15:20:52] <fujisan> ellyjones :O
[15:22:00] <fujisan> oh wait
[15:22:07] <fujisan> is this what google is about
[15:22:13] <fujisan> a chatroom in which nobody chats
[15:22:15] <fujisan> wow
[15:22:21] <fujisan> great pr
[15:22:22] <fujisan> NOT
[15:22:23] <fujisan> D:
[15:29:59] <rosso> fujisan: This is the developers chan. Most of which are based US West Coast.  Some of them sleep at night.
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[15:55:00] <fujisan> ok my bad rosso
[15:55:05] <fujisan> i didn't know
[15:55:28] <fujisan> so what do you guys actually develop if i may ask?
[15:59:02] <fujisan> Stallman was right. ChromeOS is open source, but if everything is "on the cloud"? how can you control your informations or files?
[15:59:18] <fujisan> you just want my files :(
[15:59:53] <fujisan> google may adopt me
[15:59:56] <fujisan> i am A.I.
[16:07:04] <zbehan> fujisan: developer channel is for development discussions, if you have fundamental questions like "what is it for", try watching the intro docs, or a better suited channel, like #chromium-os-user
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[16:49:58] <fujisan> Stallman was right. ChromeOS is open source, but if everything is "on the cloud"? how can you control your informations or files?
[16:50:14] <fujisan> zbehan
[16:50:25] <fujisan> without Stallman there wouldnt be any google
[16:50:50] <fujisan> so everything he says is relavent
[16:51:04] <vpalatin> fujisan: you already told that one hour ago
[16:51:06] <fujisan> zbehan i develop the web by interacting in its web
[16:51:13] <fujisan> without that you guys would be nothing
[16:51:18] <fujisan> so please have some respect
[16:51:26] <fujisan> aretha franklin said it best
[16:51:52] <fujisan> vpalatin and why didnt respond to it then?
[16:52:26] <fujisan> i create the content to gives your meager creations meaning
[16:52:50] <vpalatin> fujisan: as he told you, this chan is aim at developing ChromeOS not discussing philosophical considerations behind it
[16:53:31] <fujisan> but is it a real os?
[16:53:44] <fujisan> i mean it's the linux kernel right?
[16:54:17] <fujisan> and on top of that the google chrome webbrowser which just uses a javascript engine and webkit
[16:54:18] <vpalatin> fujisan: As you know by reading Richard M Stallman, an OS is not only a kernel
[16:54:26] <fujisan> so what did you guys create exactly?
[16:55:04] <fujisan> maybe that is why it so quiet in here you just use things created by other developers
[16:55:23] <fujisan> meaning you arent really developers but users
[16:56:14] <vpalatin> fujisan: have a look at our repositories http://git.chromium.org and decicde by yourself...
[16:57:33] <ellyjones> fujisan: er, no, that's not me
[16:57:42] <ellyjones> my name is not uncommon though
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[16:58:34] <ellyjones> and yes, this is a channel for discussion of chromium OS, not of the philosophy underlying free software
[17:03:22] <fujisan> sorry ellyjones
[17:03:30] <fujisan> sorry if i was a little trollish
[17:03:38] <fujisan> i am just frolicsome it's in my nature
[17:03:46] <fujisan> but i am curious about developing
[17:04:04] <fujisan> ok ty vpalatin
[17:04:53] <fujisan> all i meant was that through sharing you guys were enabled to develop chromium os :) and RMS kinda started that
[17:05:17] <ellyjones> yes
[17:05:40] <ellyjones> almost all of the software we use is open-source, so we are contributing back to the open-source community
[17:05:50] <fujisan> ok good
[17:05:53] <ellyjones> you can see the source trees at http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/
[17:06:56] <fujisan> so this channel is google affiliated like the android channel?
[17:07:32] <ellyjones> hm? chromium OS is an open-source project
[17:07:38] <fujisan> what's the code responsible for google chrome knowing what files i last accessed ?
[17:07:42] <ellyjones> chrome OS is a google project built on top of that
[17:08:02] <ellyjones> this is the channel for the open-source project, not the google one
[17:08:11] <fujisan> oh ok confusing somewhat
[17:08:15] <fujisan> but i think i get it
[17:08:42] <fujisan> you remove all the spyware code and other undesirable code from the googl chrome os project and make your own, how close am i?
[17:09:50] <ellyjones> what?
[17:09:54] <cmasone> guys, how did we get under this bridge?
[17:10:02] <cmasone> Are those billy goats up there?
[17:10:46] <ellyjones> haha
[17:10:51] <ellyjones> yeah, == cmasone, I think :)
[17:11:27] <fujisan> im new to all this google stuff my friend LaraCloud who owns a Cr-48 invited me into this realm
[17:11:35] <fujisan> i usually hang out in MacOSX
[17:12:13] <fujisan> http://www.osxwiki.net/pisg/
[17:12:16] <ellyjones> hm, crosbot died yet again
[17:12:23] <ellyjones> I really need to actually fix it so it reconnects on its own
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[17:12:54] <ellyjones> crosbot: announce +tree
[17:12:55] <crosbot> ellyjones: announcing tree
[17:13:00] <crosbot> tree became 'Tree is open'
[17:13:07] <fujisan> so how do you irc on chromium os?
[17:13:21] <fujisan> i mean besides the qweb thingy
[17:13:32] <ellyjones> fujisan: I think there's a service called 'irccloud' that does that
[17:13:34] <ellyjones> (or mibbit)
[17:13:52] <fujisan> so there is something to be coded still afterall
[17:13:56] <fujisan> a decent irc client
[17:14:34] <fujisan> ye ellyjones i know of those
[17:14:37] <cmasone> fujisan: in HTML5 and JS, yes.  Just like every other web app.  It'll work in other browsers too.
[17:14:54] <ellyjones> indeed
[17:15:29] <fujisan> i know but mibbit and irccloud and qweb arent exactly nice IRC clients
[17:16:16] <cmasone> fujisan: didn't make any assertions about them one way or the other.  Feel free to write your own and publish it in the chrome web store.
[17:18:02] <fujisan> i will ask my friend jahc if he can help
[17:18:08] <fujisan> he coded the awesome wookiechat
[17:18:16] <fujisan> which i am sure you guys have never heard of :)
[17:19:09] <fujisan> i dont see a 5 star rating for any irc client in the chrome web store
[17:19:21] <fujisan> so there is a gap in the market for perfection afterall :O
[17:19:52] <ellyjones> write one :)
[17:20:50] <fujisan> to me irc is the web though
[17:22:49] <fujisan> ye mibbit would be great
[17:22:55] <fujisan> if only freenode would allow it
[17:23:19] <fujisan> that's why i won't even attempt to write one
[17:23:26] <fujisan> my rep. on this server is pretty bad
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[17:53:34] <fujisan_> hi
[17:53:36] <fujisan_> Hexxeh:
[17:54:06] <fujisan_> hexxeh you were featured in a google magazine article
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[19:30:26] <Hexxeh> fujisan_: Cool! got a link?
[19:34:18] <Hexxeh> or scan if it's print only? :)
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[19:55:29] <crosbot> tree became 'Tree is closed (Automatic: "cbuildbot" on "arm generic binary" from ce1e9cebb1db3b101ff9307273276013235f3dbd: Ben Chan <benchan at chromium dot org>, Darin Petkov <petkov at chromium dot org>, Doug Anderson <dianders at chromium dot org>, Jason Glasgow <jglasgow at chromium dot org>, Ryan Cui <rcui at chromium dot org>, thakis at chromium dot org <thakis at chromium dot org@78cadc50-ecff-11dd-a971-7dbc132099af>)'
[19:57:30] <dianders> The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed:
[19:57:31] <dianders> #required by chromeos-base/cros-disks-0.0.1-r36, required by chromeos-base/chromeos-0.0.1-r127, required by @selected, required by @world (argument)
[19:57:31] <dianders> >=sys-fs/ntfs3g-2010.3.6 **
[19:57:31] <dianders> The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed:
[19:57:31] <dianders> #required by chromeos-base/cros-disks-0.0.1-r36, required by chromeos-base/chromeos-0.0.1-r127, required by @selected, required by @world (argument)
[19:57:31] <dianders> >=sys-fs/ntfs3g-2010.3.6 **
[19:58:22] <cmasone> benchan: seems like your patch needs to get rolled back?
[19:59:05] <dianders> cmasone: Sounds right to me.  rspangler maybe?
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[19:59:37] <dianders> sjg: prolly one of benchan's changes, as cmasome points out
[20:00:52] <sjg> OK
[20:01:21] <crosbot> tree became 'Tree is closed (sjg looking)'
[20:01:47] <darinski> sjg: I reverted ben's change
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[20:01:59] <dianders> darinski: thanks.  :)
[20:02:22] <crosbot> tree became 'Tree is closed (ben's change reverted, should cycle green)'
[20:02:30] <sjg> Thanks
[20:03:03] <darinski> i reviewed the change so I almost fell responsible... almost :-)
[20:03:13] <darinski> s/fell/felt/, that
[20:03:23] <sjg> I like fell better
[20:06:35] <darinski> although... i'm still confused how a binary builder picked up a change to a 9999 ebuild...
[20:06:49] <darinski> that hasn't passed through PFQ yet, I think
[20:11:50] <fujisan_> Hexxeh:  ye it's a dutch magazine i bought about google they are all full of praise about your chromium os builds :)
[20:12:08] <fujisan_> i can give you the name of the journalist i think give him a mail :D
[20:12:34] <Hexxeh> Please! :)
[20:16:45] <fujisan_> it's an article about chromium os but you get like mentioned
[20:16:57] <fujisan_> your builts of it :)
[20:17:39] <fujisan_> it's from the dutch special edition about Google from Chip magazine
[20:19:55] <fujisan_> i can only find the name of the editor btw it's Pieter van Megen http://nl.linkedin.com/in/pietervanmegen
[20:23:00] <fujisan_> and thats how i found out about your builds i had no idea you were a freenodian
[20:23:02] <fujisan_> like me
[20:25:19] <fujisan_> http://www.fnl.nl/index.php?id=1453
[20:25:27] <fujisan_> oh they even have a phone number listed :O
[20:27:13] <fujisan_> Hexxeh:  what do you mean with boot into usb mode btw?
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[21:00:02] <ellyjones> darinski: if the tree's going green, want to reopen it? :)
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[21:12:38] <davidjames> ellyjones: Doesn't look very green to me :(
[21:13:27] <crosbot> tree became 'Tree is closed (tegra2 binary failing -> ?)'
[21:14:13] <ellyjones> going? :(
[21:15:03] <benchan> sorry guys, the package.keywords change wasn't added in my previous CL.  will resubmit a fix
[21:15:53] <fujisan_> ellyjones:  any relations to Indiana?
[21:16:27] <ellyjones> fujisan_: I'm not quite sure how to tell you this, but... Indiana Jones is fictional
[21:17:13] <fujisan_> well you might be fictional
[21:17:19] <ellyjones> I guess I could be
[21:18:00] <fujisan_> ellyjones:  you might help me out btw
[21:18:28] <fujisan_> this morning i was watching a google chrome or google chrome os commercial that was made out of clay
[21:18:28] <ellyjones> ?
[21:18:30] <darinski> tegra2 binary failed for the same reason
[21:18:35] <fujisan_> , now i can't find it again
[21:18:36] <ellyjones> fujisan_: no idea, sorry
[21:18:37] <darinski> as arm-generic binary before
[21:18:44] <ellyjones> darinski: argh, is that expected?
[21:18:44] <darinski> so maybe we should reopen the tree?
[21:18:48] <fujisan_> and when i google it i can't find it :(
[21:19:00] <darinski> i think builds are expected to go green after all
[21:19:12] <darinski> ellyjones: yeah, i think so... it something to do with syncing an old manifest..
[21:19:36] <darinski> ellyjones: apparently all external binary builds should be renamed to PFQ or something. and they all run in sync
[21:19:55] <ellyjones> weird
[21:20:08] <davidjames> darinski: Yeah somehow they got out of sync
[21:20:25] <darinski> and tegra2 is passed the failing point, it seems
[21:20:38] <davidjames> darinski: Woohoo
[21:20:58] <darinski> so, sheriffs open the tree?
[21:22:14] <cmasone> sjg: ^^^
[21:22:40] <darinski> i'm opening the tree if I get .... 4 +1's :-)
[21:22:46] <cmasone> +4
[21:22:51] <darinski> :-)
[21:22:51] <gauravsh> Like
[21:23:13] <ellyjones> +1
[21:23:14] <ellyjones> do it
[21:23:24] <crosbot> tree became 'Tree is open'
[21:23:25] <darinski> done.
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[21:29:02] <fujisan_> amagawd ellyjones  i found it
[21:29:05] <fujisan_> you want to see it?
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[21:29:57] <ellyjones> I'm good
[21:30:12] <fujisan_> you act all tough i know
[21:30:21] <fujisan_> so here it is enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrDHrwLUtvk
[21:30:22] <fujisan_> :)
[21:30:52] * ellyjones stares blankly and goes back to her actual job
[21:31:24] <fujisan_> well i know you will enjoy it :)
[21:31:38] <fujisan_> i mean productive people don't IRC
[21:32:08] <fujisan_> i mean
[21:32:10] <fujisan_> they can be
[21:32:15] <fujisan_> but usually not
[21:32:27] <cmasone> fujisan_: yes, yes we do.  When your team is distributed across the world, you need a place to communicate about stuff.  That's what we're doing here.  This isn'
[21:32:29] <fujisan_> ok ellyjones  have fun
[21:32:32] <cmasone> t really a social chat room
[21:32:39] <fujisan_> this is IRC
[21:32:45] <fujisan_> life is a social activity
[21:32:50] <fujisan_> even when you are working
[21:33:06] <fujisan_> it's a fundamental fact you can deny it all you like though
[21:33:21] <fujisan_> just take pixar for example
[21:33:52] <fujisan_> their most productive and creative ideas come from meeting each other and having idle talk and conversation
[21:34:01] <fujisan_> if this was a bank i would agree with you cmasone
[21:34:13] <fujisan_> but software engineering is something different entirely
[21:34:17] <fujisan_> i guess not to you though
[21:34:22] <fujisan_> that says more about you then
[21:37:06] <fujisan_> maybe you need to attend to a seminar about collective creativity in cyberspace
[21:37:09] <fujisan_> cmasone:
[21:37:22] <fujisan_> it's never too late to learn you know
[21:37:29] <ellyjones> fujisan_: enough
[21:37:34] <ellyjones> this is a project channel, not a social channel
[21:38:49] <fujisan_> Ok i am sorry for ranting
[21:38:53] <fujisan_> bye bye
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[21:38:58] <ellyjones> finally
[21:41:40] <adlr> he's right. we should be more like pixar
[21:42:33] <gauravsh> i also agree that cmasone needs to attend a seminar on collective creativity in cyberspace
[21:42:42] <cmasone> adlr: maybe then we could all get oscars like Sam has
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[22:01:42] <ellyjones> I'd totally go to such a seminar
[22:01:47] <ellyjones> jaharkes: ohai CMU :)
[22:08:11] <jaharkes> ellyjones: hi
[22:08:23] * ellyjones is CMU SCS 2010
[22:08:30] <ellyjones> (not a social channel, people. nothing to see here.)
[22:09:01] <jaharkes> ellyjones: i think there are a bunch of CMU alumns here
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[22:30:59] <fujisan> ellyjones if it makes you feel any better i too forgot about the fact that i had another nick still in the room :)
[22:31:09] <fujisan> bye bye now for real though :D
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[23:38:49] <ellyjones> msb___: *shakes fist for expanding the scope of her CL* :)
[23:40:35] <msb___> ellyjones: :) wow, I have 3 underscores after my name
[23:41:43] <ellyjones> yes
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[23:45:02] <micahc__________> I win?
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[23:45:27] <adlr> micahc: OMG!!
[23:46:17] <ellyjones> msb could win more, though - he has more space for underscores than you :)
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[23:46:51] <ellyjones> well then.
[23:47:01] <________________> _____ ___ ______
[23:47:39] <ojn> ________________, ... .. ..... .. ........ .......!
[23:47:45] <micahc> hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars
[23:47:49] <micahc> ********* see!
[23:47:49] <ojn> ... ___ ...
[23:48:01] <ellyjones> micahc: old joke :P
[23:48:04] <________________> micahc: hahahaha
[23:48:11] <gauravsh> come on people, this is not a social chat room!
[23:48:18] <micahc> I'm sorry.  It's friday.  http://bash.org/?244321
[23:48:40] <ellyjones> yeah, it really is friday
[23:48:48] <ellyjones> and now I have the song stuck in my head, you monster
[23:49:04] <________________> micahc: hahahahahahhaha
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[23:58:29] <msb___> Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
[23:58:30] <msb___> Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
[23:58:30] <msb___> Fun, fun, fun, fun
[23:58:31] <msb___> Lookin' forward to the weekend





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