January 22, 2015 
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January 22, 2015 [00:04:23] *** booly-yam-5194_ has joined ##bootstrap[00:13:08] *** mike_af has quit IRC[00:14:03] *** zorak8 has quit IRC[00:14:37] *** zorak8 has joined ##bootstrap[00:18:25] *** choosegoose has quit IRC[00:18:46] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[00:24:08] *** booly-yam-5194_ has quit IRC[00:24:28] *** enav has quit IRC[00:26:02] *** booly-yam-5194_ has joined ##bootstrap[00:28:42] *** TheBlueDog has joined ##bootstrap[00:30:48] *** LessonsByConnor has joined ##bootstrap[00:32:10] *** basiclaser_ has quit IRC[00:34:49] *** ptrrr has quit IRC[00:35:03] <LessonsByConnor> What's the "standard" way of centering content in a div? Let's say I want to center the text vertically and horizontally in this example. http://jsfiddle.net/17f5xodo/[00:37:27] *** gfms has joined ##bootstrap[00:38:08] *** gfms has quit IRC[00:39:33] *** multi_io2 has quit IRC[00:41:35] *** eivarv has joined ##bootstrap[00:42:03] *** booly-yam-5194_ has quit IRC[00:44:04] *** eivarv has quit IRC[00:52:03] *** asmyers has quit IRC[00:57:31] *** iraj has quit IRC[00:59:34] *** knownasilya has quit IRC[01:00:10] *** m0ltar has quit IRC[01:00:14] *** Superburke has joined ##bootstrap[01:07:12] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[01:08:28] *** morenoh149 has joined ##bootstrap[01:13:01] *** sgen_ has joined ##bootstrap[01:23:57] *** milehigh has quit IRC[01:24:38] *** Emmel has joined ##bootstrap[01:28:09] *** TheBlueDog has quit IRC[01:28:25] *** neataroni has joined ##bootstrap[01:28:32] *** Sam-T has quit IRC[01:34:40] *** enav has quit IRC[01:41:57] *** m0ltar has joined ##bootstrap[01:44:17] *** Om3ga73 has joined ##bootstrap[01:45:10] *** 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*** denete has quit IRC[04:08:40] *** sgen_ has quit IRC[04:13:38] *** Ericx2x has quit IRC[04:13:41] *** Ericx2x_ has joined ##bootstrap[04:15:46] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[04:15:46] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[04:17:57] *** gfms has quit IRC[04:21:53] *** gfms has joined ##bootstrap[04:24:21] *** Shrooms has quit IRC[04:24:42] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[04:24:42] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[04:27:59] *** Ericx2x_ has quit IRC[04:28:50] *** fandi has quit IRC[04:30:29] *** gtristan has joined ##bootstrap[04:31:01] <gtristan> Why can tell my why this: http://jsfiddle.net/xLhfows6/ does not render like this: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#type-lists ??[04:31:12] <gtristan> seems ultra simple[04:32:59] <gtristan> s/why/who, of course[04:33:10] <preaction> what's loading normalize.css?[04:34:57] <preaction> your web inspector should show you where the list-style: none is coming from[04:36:14] *** preaction has quit IRC[04:40:51] <gtristan> oh poor guy :-([04:41:00] <gtristan> that happened to me 2 weeks ago[04:41:49] <gtristan> I pasted 6 lines of text to an otherwise dead channel, and got a klined by an over-zealous spam bot :-/[05:01:16] *** preaction has joined ##bootstrap[05:01:35] *** monokrome has joined ##bootstrap[05:04:00] *** CodeBot3000 has joined ##bootstrap[05:04:31] *** Shrooms has quit IRC[05:06:45] *** bonhoeffer has joined ##bootstrap[05:08:09] <gtristan> preaction, nice and early come back[05:08:39] <gtristan> preaction, that happened to me last month, for pasting an innocent 6 lines of redundant git diff in an otherwise dead channel[05:08:48] <gtristan> damn spam bots :-S[05:12:34] *** oxhak has quit IRC[05:17:27] *** morenoh149 has quit IRC[05:19:53] *** CodeBot3000 has quit IRC[05:21:32] *** neataroni has quit IRC[05:40:09] *** Suppa|Lap_ has joined ##bootstrap[05:40:16] *** bonhoeffer has quit IRC[05:41:36] *** red_horned_rihno has quit IRC[05:43:32] *** Suppa|Lap__ has quit IRC[05:45:23] *** Om3ga73 has quit 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IRC[08:21:25] *** hmsimha has quit IRC[08:29:43] *** ptrrr has joined ##bootstrap[08:37:25] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[08:37:26] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[08:38:40] *** doev has joined ##bootstrap[08:42:18] *** ptrrr has quit IRC[08:43:09] *** FatBoyXPC has quit IRC[08:44:27] *** gfms has quit IRC[08:48:40] *** EREVAN has joined ##bootstrap[08:55:33] <gtristan> Anyone has an idea why the item and the div with a dashed border do not align perfectly side by side here: http://jsfiddle.net/ux5cseu8/ ?[09:01:51] *** Shrooms has quit IRC[09:03:53] *** jagga has joined ##bootstrap[09:11:50] *** nemaeon_ is now known as nemaeon[09:22:11] *** booly-yam-5194_ has joined ##bootstrap[09:24:16] *** intellix has joined ##bootstrap[09:24:17] *** zeRez has joined ##bootstrap[09:25:13] *** eivarv has quit IRC[09:30:17] *** eivarv has joined ##bootstrap[09:36:46] <tyteen4a03> are there migration documents from 3.1 to 3.3?[09:38:43] *** iraj has quit IRC[09:41:09] *** zeRez has quit 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morenoh149 has quit IRC[11:30:05] *** MEGAGHZ has quit IRC[11:46:09] *** checkit has quit IRC[11:58:23] *** booly-yam-5194__ has quit IRC[12:04:57] *** williamtdr has quit IRC[12:13:36] *** qdk_ has joined ##bootstrap[12:22:50] *** intellix has quit IRC[12:23:06] *** gfms has joined ##bootstrap[12:26:08] *** anix has joined ##bootstrap[12:32:48] *** booly-yam-5194__ has joined ##bootstrap[12:34:01] *** Soullivaneuh has quit IRC[12:34:08] <elmargol> I have a modal showing an image containing the class img-responsive. If the image is portrait the image is too large for the modal. How do I solve this?[12:34:39] <elmargol> My cms uses a modal as lightbox[12:50:05] *** K4T has joined ##bootstrap[12:54:13] *** m0ltar has joined ##bootstrap[13:14:54] *** intellix has joined ##bootstrap[13:16:56] *** simplyshipley has joined ##bootstrap[13:25:24] *** intellix has quit IRC[13:28:41] *** m0ltar has quit IRC[13:29:22] *** intellix has joined ##bootstrap[13:37:18] *** Emmel has joined ##bootstrap[13:37:54] *** mikecmpbll has joined ##bootstrap[13:37:57] *** Soullivaneuh has joined ##bootstrap[13:44:21] *** asmyers has joined ##bootstrap[13:47:31] *** PrplHaz4 has joined ##bootstrap[13:54:15] *** pedda has joined ##bootstrap[14:02:32] *** Emmel has quit IRC[14:06:06] *** m0ltar has joined ##bootstrap[14:07:59] *** ashleyp has joined ##bootstrap[14:08:00] *** ashleyp_ has joined ##bootstrap[14:11:05] *** Emmel has joined ##bootstrap[14:12:50] *** gfms has joined ##bootstrap[14:33:35] *** cavity_ is now known as cavity[14:36:22] *** Superburke has joined ##bootstrap[14:52:42] *** livingstn has joined ##bootstrap[14:54:44] <gtristan> people in #javascript seem to not be up to it, so I give you: The popover select picker challenge: http://jsfiddle.net/p1fctjqt/[14:55:34] <gtristan> Find how to keep the interactive popover on screen until something outside of the popover receives focus or click... and you win a virtual pony[14:55:37] <gtristan> :)[14:55:50] * gtristan rides his attractive pony across the room[14:55:57] <gtristan> isn't is a nice pony ?[14:59:25] *** zecho has joined ##bootstrap[15:01:00] *** doev has quit IRC[15:01:08] *** doev has joined ##bootstrap[15:02:45] *** fandi has quit IRC[15:11:58] *** oxhak has joined ##bootstrap[15:13:09] *** ashleyp has quit IRC[15:13:09] *** ashleyp_ has quit IRC[15:13:48] *** CodeBot3000 has joined ##bootstrap[15:18:57] *** FatBoyXPC has joined ##bootstrap[15:19:19] *** oxhak has quit IRC[15:20:37] *** Emmel has quit IRC[15:25:32] *** MEGAGHZ has joined ##bootstrap[15:27:41] *** asmyers has quit IRC[15:28:00] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[15:29:47] <laszlof> gtristan: http://jsfiddle.net/p1fctjqt/2/[15:29:49] *** tollie has quit IRC[15:29:50] <laszlof> that may help[15:30:20] *** denete has quit IRC[15:30:54] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[15:31:25] <laszlof> doesnt handle focus changes, but clicks[15:31:33] <laszlof> im not sure how to detect all focus changes easily[15:32:06] <gtristan> ooooo ![15:32:19] <laszlof> now where is my fuckin pony[15:32:21] <laszlof> :P[15:32:22] * gtristan gives laszlof his wonderful pony[15:32:26] <gtristan> hahaha[15:32:55] <gtristan> laszlof, thanks for your help though, it's a tricky problem[15:33:05] <gtristan> :)[15:33:34] <gtristan> $(*).click() huh[15:33:52] <gtristan> interesting trick, and then the checking inside it... nice[15:34:30] <laszlof> creative solution. theres probably a better way. thats all I could come up with off the top of my head though :)[15:34:50] <laszlof> you'd think popover would do this by default[15:34:58] *** bonhoeffer has joined ##bootstrap[15:35:21] <laszlof> hmm, there might be a bug in that somewhere[15:35:35] <laszlof> im getting call stack errors when spam clicking[15:36:39] <laszlof> not sure if thats a jsfiddle issue, or if you'll see it in product too[15:36:42] <laszlof> production*[15:41:18] <gtristan> the popover does the focus thing, that's what is called 'dismissable' in the boostrap docs/demos[15:41:37] *** bonhoeffer has quit IRC[15:41:53][15:42:06] <gtristan> but then when you click into the popover, the element which created the popover loses focus, and the popover goes away[15:42:16] <gtristan> anyway, reaching midnight here[15:42:32] <laszlof> elmargol: may god have mercy on your soul[15:42:32] * gtristan gotta pack up and walk home, since he doesnt have a pony to ride anymore[15:42:40] <laszlof> hah. catch ya later.[15:43:24] <elmargol> laszlof, yes someone should nail microsoft to a cross for this...[15:43:58] <elmargol> So my workarounds are html5shiv.js and respond.js[15:44:36] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[15:45:10] *** amyers has quit IRC[15:45:15] <laszlof> Sorry, cant really help ya, we dont support IE[15:45:35] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[15:45:37] *** mike_af has joined ##bootstrap[15:45:53] <laszlof> doing work with a massively complex JS application. making it work properly with just Chrome/FF/Opera is a task[15:46:17] <elmargol> laszlof, did you try dart? :)[15:46:39] <laszlof> no. We're using marionette/backbone/handlebars[15:46:52] <elmargol> I'm not a javascript developery. my experience is javascript has more bugs than features[15:47:13] <elmargol> you can't use half of the functions doe to bugs[15:47:14] <laszlof> well, the issue is that its a browser language, and every browser acts differently[15:47:34] <laszlof> a lot of steps have been taken to standardize it, but there are still glitches[15:47:52] <elmargol> well since there are still msie7 arround :) not much hope :)[15:48:49] *** gtristan has quit IRC[15:49:18] *** BadApe has joined ##bootstrap[15:50:08] <laszlof> IE7 has a massively small marketshare[15:50:16] <laszlof> you should not be focusing on supporting it, imo[15:51:06] <laszlof> IE8 on te other hand still has a pretty large following. partly because it shipped with windows 7[15:51:39] *** fandi has joined ##bootstrap[15:52:29] *** knownasilya has joined ##bootstrap[15:53:28] *** fandi has quit IRC[15:53:53] *** fandi has joined ##bootstrap[15:55:35] <elmargol> I hope the free upgrade to windows 10 fixes most of this.[15:56:55] *** bonhoeffer has joined ##bootstrap[15:58:26] *** TheBlueDog has joined ##bootstrap[16:01:37] *** ashleyp has joined ##bootstrap[16:01:49] <elmargol> laszlof, do you know If I can use javascript to regex replace all links to .css / js?[16:02:09] *** gfms has joined ##bootstrap[16:02:10] <elmargol> something like if msie8 s/static.example.com/www.example.com/g[16:02:44] <elmargol> I don't think the browser is refeteching the css if just the url changes?[16:03:19] *** gfms has quit IRC[16:04:25] <laszlof> ya, the dom is already loaded when that happens[16:04:33] <laszlof> you cant change it after[16:04:40] <laszlof> well, you can, but it wouldnt do anything[16:05:03] <BadApe> because win10 is free, everyone will upgrade?[16:05:05] *** fandi has joined ##bootstrap[16:06:16] <elmargol> BadApe, I guess the average consumer will at least try the upgrade[16:06:34] <elmargol> It is a shame they don't include vista...[16:06:57] <elmargol> Most vista users should upgrade I think *g*[16:07:27] *** bonhoeffer has quit IRC[16:07:34] *** tollie has joined ##bootstrap[16:08:58] *** denete_ has joined ##bootstrap[16:08:58] <BadApe> elmargol: my guess is most won't do anything[16:09:30] <BadApe> i know my parents won't unless i do it for them,[16:12:05] *** denete has quit IRC[16:12:50] *** gtristan has joined ##bootstrap[16:19:08] *** fandi has quit IRC[16:20:53] *** EREVAN has quit IRC[16:21:16] *** qdk_ has quit IRC[16:21:25] *** fandi has joined ##bootstrap[16:23:07] *** bonhoeffer has joined ##bootstrap[16:24:54] *** bonhoeffer has quit IRC[16:25:24] *** BadApe has quit IRC[16:26:39] *** TheBlueDog has quit IRC[16:30:58] *** intellix has quit IRC[16:32:19] *** Xethron has quit IRC[16:33:46] *** Xethron has joined ##bootstrap[16:33:50] *** Xethron has joined ##bootstrap[16:35:19] *** livingstn has quit IRC[16:35:22] *** TheBlueDog_ has joined ##bootstrap[16:38:15] *** intellix has joined ##bootstrap[16:42:31] *** Xethron has quit IRC[16:44:41] <sakustar> :D[16:45:10] <sakustar> elmargol: is there some real info about win10 out now?[16:45:28] <sakustar> like who gets the free update[16:45:32] <elmargol> sakustar, yes just google it. it is all over the place[16:45:46] <elmargol> Win7 Win8 Win RT and windows phone[16:45:56] <elmargol> 1 year free upgrade[16:46:49] <elmargol> Any idea why msie is showing a 320x320 image as 320x164?[16:47:00] <elmargol> msie8 :/[16:47:02] <sakustar> win RT confirmed? :o[16:47:54] <sakustar> cool[16:47:59] <elmargol> Update: During a Q&A session after the event, Myerson promised that Windows RT users would get an upgrade to 10 as well. Your Surface 2 won't be left high and dry![16:48:12] <sakustar> may have to get a surface since they so cheep[16:48:28] <elmargol> I try to avoid microsoft if possible :)[16:48:29] <sakustar> if i could also sell my old surface pro it would be win-win[16:49:12] *** doev has quit IRC[16:54:40] *** bigwax has joined ##bootstrap[16:55:48] *** ashleyp has quit IRC[16:55:59] *** intellix has quit IRC[16:57:49] *** amyers has quit IRC[16:58:10] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[17:01:01] *** booly-yam-5194__ has quit IRC[17:03:51] *** IvanSosaJigga has joined ##bootstrap[17:05:51] *** zeRez has joined ##bootstrap[17:07:25] *** ashleyp has joined ##bootstrap[17:11:55] *** klmlfl_ has joined ##bootstrap[17:12:42] *** klmlfl has joined ##bootstrap[17:15:05] *** ashleyp has quit IRC[17:18:56] *** livingstn has joined ##bootstrap[17:20:47] *** jagga has quit IRC[17:22:23] *** intellix has joined ##bootstrap[17:30:17] *** eivarv has quit IRC[17:36:03] *** eivarv has joined ##bootstrap[17:36:23] *** fandi has joined ##bootstrap[17:36:55] *** doev has joined ##bootstrap[17:37:58] *** m0ltar has quit IRC[17:40:23] *** CodeBot3000 has quit IRC[17:44:11] *** intellix has quit IRC[17:46:33] *** eivarv has quit IRC[17:48:34] *** pedda has quit IRC[17:50:07] *** K4T has quit IRC[17:51:30] *** pedda has joined ##bootstrap[17:52:05] *** gfms has joined ##bootstrap[17:53:18] *** K4T has joined ##bootstrap[17:57:56] *** denete_ has quit IRC[17:58:32] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[18:00:17] *** multi_io_ has joined ##bootstrap[18:01:02] *** ptrrr has joined ##bootstrap[18:03:18] *** mourningdawndevs has joined ##bootstrap[18:03:39] *** multi_io has quit IRC[18:04:04] <mourningdawndevs> Hello, I have a question... err... several, but I'll ask them one at a time...[18:05:33] <mourningdawndevs> Firstly, and this is something I've been having issues with for a while... is there a way to set up bootstrap with jade so I can use an include for my navbar and set a nav href as active through either javascript or some other means.[18:05:56] <mourningdawndevs> I found two ways, but one is rather confusing to me, and the other uses nodejs and express which I don't.[18:08:14] *** booly-yam-5194__ has joined ##bootstrap[18:13:48] *** MEGAGHZ has quit IRC[18:14:02] <mourningdawndevs> hmm[18:18:42] *** mikecmpbll has quit IRC[18:20:31] *** klmlfl has quit IRC[18:22:46] *** denete_ has joined ##bootstrap[18:25:28] *** denete_ has quit IRC[18:25:49] *** denete has quit IRC[18:26:01] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[18:32:44] *** denete_ has joined ##bootstrap[18:33:34] *** acmehandle has joined ##bootstrap[18:33:49] <acmehandle> Need help with a bootstrap dropdown menu[18:33:55] <acmehandle> is it not part of the standard release?[18:33:58] *** BadApe has joined ##bootstrap[18:35:27] <mourningdawndevs> pardon?[18:35:27] *** doev has quit IRC[18:36:23] *** denete has quit IRC[18:36:24] <acmehandle> I'm trying to create a drop down menu with bootstrap.[18:36:28] <acmehandle> Not having any luck.[18:36:33] <acmehandle> Where would I begin to troubleshoot?[18:37:21] <mourningdawndevs> oh, do you have a link to your code?[18:37:29] <mourningdawndevs> If so, I could check it out[18:37:46] *** denete_ is now known as denete[18:38:05] <acmehandle> I would have to copy and paste it.[18:38:24] <mourningdawndevs> hmm, why not just upload it to github?[18:38:46] <mourningdawndevs> people can't help unless they know what your code looks like.[18:39:11] *** markelite has quit IRC[18:39:14] <acmehandle> Not currently setup for github[18:39:22] <mourningdawndevs> Have you tried looking at the example pages source code?[18:39:51] <mourningdawndevs> view-source:http://getbootstrap.com/examples/theme/[18:40:03] <mourningdawndevs> that's the source code for a simple bootstrap page with a drop down[18:40:11] <mourningdawndevs> try comparing your code with that[18:41:29] <acmehandle> Should I be using the theme.css file also?[18:42:20] <acmehandle> Also, I'm using jquery 2.1.3, should I stick to jquery 1.11.2?[18:42:43] <mourningdawndevs> You don't need to, but here's a thing...[18:42:51] <mourningdawndevs> what order did you put your js files?[18:43:00] <mourningdawndevs> jquery needs to be listed before the bootstrap.js[18:43:13] <acmehandle> Ah, that is the thing indeed.[18:43:18] <acmehandle> I have jquery listed *after* bootstrap[18:43:40] <mourningdawndevs> yeah, it needs to be before, try that and if that works great, if not, we'll figure it out.[18:43:54] <acmehandle> Indeed. Thank you a bunch. That fixed it.[18:44:37] <mourningdawndevs> great[18:44:41] <mourningdawndevs> ^.^ glad to help[18:45:12] <acmehandle> However. Just one thing.[18:45:16] <mourningdawndevs> hmm?[18:45:24] <acmehandle> No no.[18:45:25] <acmehandle> Never mind[18:45:42] <mourningdawndevs> if you have another question, I'd be glad to help.[18:46:00] <mourningdawndevs> if you think it's a silly question, you could try PMing me, I promise I won't laugh[18:46:15] <acmehandle> I'm all good. :-) I was just checking on the dev server.[18:46:24] <mourningdawndevs> oh gotcha[18:46:27] <acmehandle> Oh, I dont worry about asking silly questions. I do that all the time. :-)[18:46:55] <mourningdawndevs> Also, one thing to check, what bootstrap version are you using? they just updated on the 19th[18:47:06] <mourningdawndevs> I'm actually waiting rather impatiently for the 4.0 public beta XD[18:47:53] *** CodeBot3000 has joined ##bootstrap[18:48:04] <acmehandle> Using the latest 3.x. Downloaded just yesteday[18:48:24] <acmehandle> What are the improvements for 4.0?[18:48:30] *** denete has quit IRC[18:48:39] <mourningdawndevs> no idea actually, I just found out about it from the blog actually[18:48:47] <acmehandle> I see.[18:49:00] <mourningdawndevs> they announced that the beta is 'soon' which I'm going to assume is a blizzard 'soon'[18:49:27] <mourningdawndevs> http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2014/10/29/bootstrap-3-3-0-released/[18:49:32] <mourningdawndevs> 4.0 is mentioned in that post[18:49:57] <mourningdawndevs> apparently quite a few changed and what not[18:50:11] <acmehandle> Another question. I often read that putting the javascript code at the bottom of the page is often beneficial for page load time as well proper page rendering. Would this apply to bootstrap and jquery as well?[18:50:14] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[18:51:16] <mourningdawndevs> I've never bothered to test, i just put all js at the bottom anyways[18:51:16] *** shiftins has joined ##bootstrap[18:51:36] <mourningdawndevs> the only js I put on the top is stuff to handle browser detection[18:51:48] <acmehandle> Ok, that sounds good to me. At least I know if I follow that method it wont affect bootstrap adversely[18:51:54] <acmehandle> Makes sense.[18:52:45] *** eivarv has joined ##bootstrap[18:52:45] <mourningdawndevs> Yeah, I fiddled with the idea of using two sites at one time, one for desktops and one for mobile. but discarded that idea due to the complexity of actually implementing that.[18:53:05] <mourningdawndevs> Question, do you use a templating engine?[18:53:30] *** m0ltar has joined ##bootstrap[18:53:40] <acmehandle> I agree. But my situation is that often I am working outside the office. Or basically away from a solid connection. So thats why I need to have my setup on my machine.[18:53:56] <acmehandle> I'm actually using django. Which has its own templating system.[18:53:57] *** BadApe has quit IRC[18:54:15] <mourningdawndevs> oh okay, never tried django, is it any good? I actually use jade[18:54:56] <acmehandle> I am thinking about using Docker, to minimize the differences in dev environments.[18:55:28] <acmehandle> Personally with regards to django, I learned it. To me its nothing frightenting. But others dont agree. So I'm not wedded to ti.[18:55:30] <acmehandle> to it[18:55:54] <acmehandle> But I think I'll take a look at jade right now. I think I remember hearing about it at a meetup[18:55:58] <mourningdawndevs> heh, and I've been looking in to using Docker myself, but haven't settled on a decision quite yet.[18:56:13] <mourningdawndevs> http://jade-lang.com/[18:56:39] <acmehandle> Indeed. The biggest problem I see with docker is that you can easily pollute the production environment if someone does something weird with their container[18:56:39] <mourningdawndevs> easy linkage, I like it mostly due to it being a lot like emmet, and the fact that it allows extends and includes.[18:56:49] <mourningdawndevs> ah[18:57:26] <acmehandle> but one of the people on the project does want us to use a homogenous way to develop the front end.[18:57:32] <acmehandle> we are using django for the backend for now.[18:57:32] <mourningdawndevs> To be honest, I don't even know what a production environment is or does really, the way I code is just straight up html/jade, css, and js.[18:57:40] <mourningdawndevs> I don't even hardly use node all that much[18:58:06] <acmehandle> No, me neither. I write all of my own css and html code. Not strong on javascript but I will probably use coffee script instead.[18:58:49] <mourningdawndevs> I actually want to learn coffeescript, but I think, in the long run, it'd be best to learn proper javascript first, or at least get the basics down before trying to learn any of its variants.[18:59:53] <acmehandle> I guess. To me it seems coffee script is stable. But I cant argue with your assessment.[19:00:24] <mourningdawndevs> erg, not quite[19:01:05] <acmehandle> is there a templating/front end framework like bootstrap that works with jade? Or is jade its own framework?[19:01:29] <mourningdawndevs> actually jade works perfectly with bootstrap[19:01:40] <mourningdawndevs> I have several mixins and templates set up in jade for bootstrap.[19:01:51] <acmehandle> Good. I'll explore it further then[19:02:53] <mourningdawndevs> not sure if the PMy thing is working XD[19:03:59] <acmehandle> Seems to[19:08:34] *** shiftins has quit IRC[19:09:27] *** manuscle has quit IRC[19:16:38] *** niftylettuce has joined ##bootstrap[19:17:53] *** shiftins has joined ##bootstrap[19:20:52] *** tollie has quit IRC[19:20:59] *** bekabug has joined ##bootstrap[19:24:56] *** nickeddy has joined ##bootstrap[19:25:08] *** denete has quit IRC[19:25:31] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[19:26:57] *** Serowe has quit IRC[19:28:22] *** booly-yam-5194__ has quit IRC[19:29:56] *** CodeBot3000 has quit IRC[19:30:08] *** denete_ has joined ##bootstrap[19:30:12] *** booly-yam-5194__ has joined ##bootstrap[19:30:56] *** denete__ has joined ##bootstrap[19:31:25] *** denete has quit IRC[19:32:52] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[19:34:32] *** MEGAGHZ has joined ##bootstrap[19:35:06] *** denete_ has quit IRC[19:35:11] *** end-of-file has quit IRC[19:35:34] *** enav has quit IRC[19:35:44] *** bekabug has quit IRC[19:36:08] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[19:36:24] *** JeanClau1eObama has joined ##bootstrap[19:37:03] *** JeanClaudeObama has quit IRC[19:41:26] *** gfms has joined ##bootstrap[19:41:58] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[19:42:12] *** gfms has quit IRC[19:43:52] <Yatekii> guys can anyone tell me why those buttons are at the right and not left too: https://backdoor.yatekii.ch/list_tokens/ ????[19:45:17] *** denete__ has quit IRC[19:45:45] *** denete has quit IRC[19:46:24] <laszlof> what buttons[19:47:18] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[19:48:21] <mourningdawndevs> the connection is not private[19:48:27] <mourningdawndevs> I get that error when clicking your link[19:49:03] *** Shrooms` has joined ##bootstrap[19:49:20] *** digicon has joined ##bootstrap[19:51:26] *** denete has quit IRC[19:51:35] *** Shrooms has quit IRC[19:52:04] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[19:53:38] *** eivarv has quit IRC[19:54:32] *** intellix has joined ##bootstrap[19:56:10] *** mourningdawndevs has left ##bootstrap[19:58:05] *** TheBlueDog___ has joined ##bootstrap[19:58:37] *** TheBlueDog_ has quit IRC[20:05:21] *** eivarv has joined ##bootstrap[20:06:03] *** denete_ has joined ##bootstrap[20:08:20] *** Shrooms` has quit IRC[20:09:32] *** denete has quit IRC[20:15:56] *** eivarv has quit IRC[20:16:27] *** denete_ has quit IRC[20:16:59] *** denete has joined ##bootstrap[20:18:00] *** enav has quit IRC[20:24:10] *** pdcmoreira has quit IRC[20:31:16] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[20:31:37] *** io_____ has quit IRC[20:36:59] *** tollie has joined ##bootstrap[20:47:01] *** enav has quit IRC[20:48:54] *** cubatron has joined ##bootstrap[20:49:25] *** cubatron has left ##bootstrap[21:00:48] *** therold has joined ##bootstrap[21:02:36] *** Serowe has joined ##bootstrap[21:06:21] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[21:10:13] *** ezioa has joined ##bootstrap[21:10:46] <ezioa> i literally copied and pasted the form html from the bootstrap site but it's not looking like the bootstrap version[21:11:01] <ezioa> i can see that some of the bootstrap.min.css rules are being applied[21:11:05] <ezioa> but the input is boxy[21:11:19] <ezioa> and the label is on the same line[21:11:38] *** checkit has joined ##bootstrap[21:12:27] *** enav has quit IRC[21:14:24] <ezioa> http://jsfiddle.net/5ohzugc8/[21:19:00] *** iraj has joined ##bootstrap[21:19:00] *** iraj has joined ##bootstrap[21:19:04] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[21:19:05] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[21:21:22] *** TheBlueDog___ has quit IRC[21:22:35] <laszlof> ezioa: http://jsfiddle.net/5ohzugc8/1/[21:23:25] <ezioa> form-group ?? wtf. you wizard.[21:25:21] *** eivarv has joined ##bootstrap[21:26:00] <laszlof> and form-control[21:26:58] *** IvanSosaJigga has quit IRC[21:27:19] *** TheBlueDog has joined ##bootstrap[21:27:50] *** eivarv has quit IRC[21:30:46] <ezioa> thanks, buds. 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