January 10, 2015 
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January 10, 2015 [00:00:14] *** [Non] has quit IRC[00:02:20] *** Valduare has quit IRC[00:08:54] *** felipedvorak has joined ##bootstrap[00:25:37] *** Dimoff has quit IRC[00:25:57] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[00:26:46] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[00:38:46] *** enav has quit IRC[00:42:57] <TheBlueDog_> brett323: Those are good places to play around, but one of the things about responsive design is that you probably shouldn’t be setting the sizes of boxes. Use the grid to its fullest extent and then only size a box if its imperitive to the design[00:44:20] <TheBlueDog_> When I develop with Bootstrap, I start with the idea of doing as much as I possibly can with the core CSS it gives me and list of SASS variable. When I run out of options there, thats when I start writing any custom styling[00:45:57] *** frigginglorious has quit IRC[00:50:30] *** jimvideo has quit IRC[00:56:28] *** frigginglorious has joined ##bootstrap[01:02:16] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[01:03:39] *** stevecrozz has quit IRC[01:07:44] *** zorak8 has quit IRC[01:07:53] *** TheBlueDog_ has quit IRC[01:13:14] *** zorak8 has joined ##bootstrap[01:18:26] *** badon has joined ##bootstrap[01:23:06] *** Pyr0s has joined ##bootstrap[01:23:19] <Pyr0s> Hello everyone :)[01:23:26] <Pyr0s> How's it going tonight?[01:24:32] <Pyr0s> Quiet apparently[01:28:51] <MEGAGHZ> :)[01:29:17] <MEGAGHZ> Working?[01:29:39] <Pyr0s> It's Friday night. No one is working, no? :P at least not too many people[01:29:51] <MEGAGHZ> I am working.[01:29:53] <MEGAGHZ> Friday[01:29:55] <MEGAGHZ> Night[01:29:56] <Pyr0s> poor you[01:30:00] <MEGAGHZ> why[01:30:00] <Pyr0s> what do you do?[01:30:03] <Pyr0s> dev?[01:30:04] <MEGAGHZ> I like to work[01:30:13] <MEGAGHZ> yeha[01:30:22] <Pyr0s> I guess that's why you like it haha[01:30:35] <Pyr0s> I love dev, but only do it as a hobby[01:30:43] <MEGAGHZ> nice[01:30:54] <MEGAGHZ> money?[01:31:04] <Pyr0s> I do it for fun[01:31:12] <MEGAGHZ> nice[01:31:16] <Pyr0s> I have a full-time job (law enforcement)[01:34:27] *** VsDamon_ has quit IRC[01:39:57] <Pyr0s> I used to make websites from 1997-1999... god the game has changed[01:39:58] *** MEGAGHZ has quit IRC[01:40:39] <oniijin> lol i think he fled the law[01:40:52] <Pyr0s> Can't use open notepad and start writing code anymore... CSS, php, bootstrap, js, less... the learning curve is steep[01:40:54] <oniijin> did come off as a little shifty[01:41:05] <Pyr0s> lol[01:41:05] *** stevecrozz has joined ##bootstrap[01:41:13] <Pyr0s> I'm not on duty[01:41:20] <Pyr0s> Besides, I'm Canadian :P[01:41:27] <oniijin> well most people use sublimetext[01:41:33] <oniijin> still mostly just text editor[01:41:45] <Pyr0s> I started using Notepad++ as I'm on Windows 7[01:41:57] <Pyr0s> is sublimetext superior?[01:41:58] <oniijin> ST is cross platform I think[01:42:05] <oniijin> ionno most devs I know use it[01:42:15] <oniijin> other popular options include atom.io and brackets[01:42:23] <oniijin> for more of an IDE webstorm is popular[01:42:40] <Pyr0s> I watched a few videos online where I saw some pretty cool things for writing quick html and css[01:43:07] <Pyr0s> stuff like div container > nav > li*3 etc etc which then generates all the lines[01:43:25] <Pyr0s> not sure which texteditor they were using though[01:43:37] <Pyr0s> Does ST offer such options?[01:43:37] <oniijin> i think you're referring to emmet[01:43:53] <oniijin> i think most text editors have it avail[01:44:00] <oniijin> and yes it's in ST[01:44:18] <oniijin> http://emmet.io/[01:44:55] <Pyr0s> ok.[01:45:06] <Pyr0s> I'm downloading ST as we speak[01:45:09] <oniijin> http://emmet.io/download/ lol yeah a lot of options[01:47:06] <Pyr0s> the demo on the emmet page is quite impressive[01:47:31] <Pyr0s> how to write a bunch of html lines in one second[01:48:53] *** CustosL1men has joined ##bootstrap[01:49:37] <oniijin> lol[01:49:54] <oniijin> i never remember to use it or the syntax[01:50:07] <oniijin> i do use the html/js autocomplete in ST tho[01:50:22] <oniijin> so like 'a'+tab spits out a href tag[01:51:45] <Pyr0s> let me try that[01:53:09] <oniijin> u might need to install some packages[01:53:11] <Pyr0s> sweet[01:53:15] <Pyr0s> the a tab works[01:53:25] <Pyr0s> I expected div tab to do the same, but it doesn't work[01:53:32] <oniijin> i use tag naming a lot too[01:53:33] <Pyr0s> I'll check the help files to see how these shortcuts work[01:53:39] <oniijin> div should work[01:53:45] <oniijin> i do like div.classname tab[01:53:52] <oniijin> and it'll give me the dic with class populated[01:53:56] <oniijin> div[01:54:18] *** eBureau has quit IRC[01:54:49] <Pyr0s> it's working now[01:54:50] <Pyr0s> great[01:54:59] <oniijin> i have html5, bracket highlighter, and a few others installed[01:55:03] <Pyr0s> Which color scheme do you use? :P some are pretty ugly[01:55:28] <oniijin> default monokai[01:55:46] <Pyr0s> I can't stand yellow text lol[01:56:13] <Pyr0s> I like blackboard[01:56:36] <oniijin> the contrast makes it easy to see what's class/id, what's tag, what's plain text[01:56:43] <oniijin> i think a lot of people use monokai[01:57:13] <Pyr0s> or pasel on dark[01:57:18] <Pyr0s> pastel[01:57:30] <oniijin> i even styled my jsbin to look like sublime[01:57:51] <Pyr0s> :) I should style my IRC client too[01:57:55] <Pyr0s> to look the same ;)[01:57:58] <oniijin> haha[01:58:08] <oniijin> sadly the monokai theme for my irc client in incompat atm[01:58:44] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[01:59:22] *** brett323 has quit IRC[01:59:27] *** shiftins has quit IRC[02:01:39] *** stevecrozz has quit IRC[02:03:05] *** eBureau has joined ##bootstrap[02:05:09] <Pyr0s> oh you can press CTRL-Space to see a full list of all included auto completions[02:05:16] <Pyr0s> that's sweet[02:06:49] *** lorfds has quit IRC[02:11:24] *** lorfds has joined ##bootstrap[02:13:01] *** qdk has quit IRC[02:15:34] *** Superburke has quit IRC[02:16:26] *** ptrrr has quit IRC[02:17:31] *** VsDamon has joined ##bootstrap[02:21:13] <Pyr0s> Thanks mate[02:21:21] <oniijin> np[02:21:27] <Pyr0s> I like it so far. I installed a plugin to quickly upload files via FTP[02:21:29] <oniijin> now ur caught up[02:21:35] <Pyr0s> (SFTP plugin)[02:21:54] <oniijin> eh..live editing is dangerous[02:22:18] <oniijin> if ur doin mostly static building, koala or similar build app would hep[02:22:19] <oniijin> help[02:22:43] <oniijin> lets u run local server, also handles compiling less, js concat/mini, etc[02:22:54] <Pyr0s> I'm not sure to get the implications[02:22:59] <Pyr0s> I don't have a local server right now[02:23:09] *** marlinc has joined ##bootstrap[02:23:41] <oniijin> well instead of publishing to live server as you're editing, u work on stuff locally[02:23:48] <Pyr0s> so which Windows app let's you run a local server with php/js/ etc?[02:24:05] <oniijin> hmm if u want php u'll also have to run some sort of mamp stack prob[02:24:18] <oniijin> im on osx, i use codekit+mamp if im doing that sort of dev[02:24:33] <oniijin> if im writing app then it's all just terminal tools[02:24:56] <Pyr0s> ok. I'm downloading mamp[02:25:05] <Pyr0s> 325 mb.. nice[02:25:21] <Pyr0s> They have a windows version now. So that's great[02:25:32] <Pyr0s> and codekit adds what exactly to mamp?[02:26:52] <Pyr0s> it's a less compiler okay[02:28:19] <Pyr0s> It doesn't exist on Windows. I'll look for an alternative to compile Less files[02:31:53] *** morenoh150 has quit IRC[02:32:24] *** marlinc has quit IRC[02:32:48] <Pyr0s> I think I'll go with Koala unless you think it's not the best available option on Windows[02:37:10] *** marlinc has joined ##bootstrap[02:40:07] <Pyr0s> ok great. I'm now using ST as an editor, bootstrap as a css framework and some functionalities from boilerplate for serverside stuff (redirects, htaccess, etc.). Less files and Koala as a less compiler. Finally, I've downloaded Mamp and will run everything on a local server to minimize risks and make testing/switching back and forth between the editor and the browser to see changes much easier[02:40:14] <Pyr0s> Thanks again for your help oniijin[02:40:22] *** stevecrozz has joined ##bootstrap[02:40:43] *** CustosL1men has quit IRC[02:45:37] *** lorfds has quit IRC[02:47:19] *** neataroni has quit IRC[02:50:24] *** Pyr0s has quit IRC[02:52:54] *** Itakmar has joined ##bootstrap[02:53:05] <Itakmar> why would my resopnsive image not align to the left of the container?[02:53:15] *** qdk has joined ##bootstrap[02:55:32] <Itakmar> why would my resopnsive image not align to the left of the container?[02:56:39] *** ledestin has quit IRC[02:58:07] *** Pyr0s has joined ##bootstrap[02:59:49] *** stevecrozz has quit IRC[03:02:31] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[03:03:12] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[03:06:57] *** morenoh150 has joined ##bootstrap[03:09:50] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[03:10:53] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[03:13:38] *** eBureau has quit IRC[03:20:52] *** ejb has joined ##bootstrap[03:26:39] *** thebeagle has joined ##bootstrap[03:27:06] <thebeagle> hey all![03:27:26] <thebeagle> any tips on converting psd/pdf files to bootstrap ?[03:29:17] *** frigginglorious has quit IRC[03:32:42] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[03:33:57] *** Valduare has joined ##bootstrap[03:36:26] *** amyers has quit IRC[03:36:47] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[03:46:15] *** ejb has quit IRC[03:49:57] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[03:50:35] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[03:51:49] *** LmpnPrltrt has joined ##bootstrap[04:01:23] *** LmpnPrltrt1 has joined ##bootstrap[04:01:54] *** LmpnPrltrt has quit IRC[04:02:29] *** amyers has quit IRC[04:03:02] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[04:03:51] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[04:04:02] *** LmpnPrltrt1 is now known as LumpenProletaria[04:04:59] *** amyers has quit IRC[04:05:17] *** LumpenProletaria is now known as LumpenPro[04:20:27] *** Itakmar has quit IRC[04:21:09] *** morenoh150 has quit IRC[04:28:43] *** ledestin has joined ##bootstrap[04:29:27] *** mikerrrrrr has quit IRC[04:34:12] *** lorfds has joined ##bootstrap[04:41:51] *** lorfds has quit IRC[04:43:02] *** lorfds has joined ##bootstrap[04:56:11] *** mikerrrrrr has joined ##bootstrap[04:56:44] *** neataroni has joined ##bootstrap[05:05:37] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[05:06:33] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[05:07:44] *** morenoh150 has joined ##bootstrap[05:39:39] *** zorak8 has quit IRC[05:39:41] *** lorfds has quit IRC[05:40:01] *** LumpenPro has left ##bootstrap[05:43:27] *** lorfds has joined ##bootstrap[05:47:53] *** JeanClaudeObama has quit IRC[05:49:06] *** JeanClaudeObama has joined ##bootstrap[05:56:07] *** morenoh150 has quit IRC[05:56:33] *** thebeagle has quit IRC[06:05:50] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[06:06:19] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[06:12:26] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[06:16:28] <Valduare> btn-inverse ….. does not seem to work the same on mobile[06:16:32] <Valduare> too dark[06:18:37] *** zifu1 has joined ##bootstrap[06:19:28] *** zifu has quit IRC[06:19:39] *** gtristan has quit IRC[06:36:10] *** FatBoyXPC has joined ##bootstrap[06:43:31] *** neataroni has quit IRC[06:45:01] *** gtristan has joined ##bootstrap[06:47:18] *** Valduare has quit IRC[07:14:18] *** ledestin has quit IRC[07:38:56] *** iraj has joined ##bootstrap[07:38:56] *** iraj has joined ##bootstrap[07:58:01] *** mikerrrrrr has quit IRC[08:02:08] *** joshmbrown has joined ##bootstrap[08:04:05] *** knownasilya has quit IRC[08:21:12] *** FatBoyXPC has quit IRC[08:33:42] *** echelog-3` has joined ##bootstrap[08:34:34] *** echelog-3` is now known as echelog-3[08:35:25] *** Mazon has quit IRC[08:40:24] *** Mazon has joined ##bootstrap[09:08:17] *** EREVAN has joined ##bootstrap[09:18:49] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[09:25:16] *** joshmbrown has quit IRC[09:31:35] *** boink__1 has joined ##bootstrap[09:34:10] *** ptrrr has joined ##bootstrap[09:34:30] *** boink__ has quit IRC[09:36:51] *** hmsimha has quit IRC[09:38:03] *** hmsimha has joined ##bootstrap[09:40:34] *** lorfds has quit IRC[09:41:48] *** trollboy has joined ##bootstrap[09:42:54] *** lorfds has joined ##bootstrap[09:50:47] *** boink__1 has quit IRC[10:00:44] *** stevecrozz has joined ##bootstrap[10:06:23] *** stevecrozz has quit IRC[10:16:18] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[10:22:18] *** Dimoff has joined ##bootstrap[10:38:38] *** FourOhFoured has joined ##bootstrap[10:42:59] *** zorak8 has joined ##bootstrap[10:43:59] *** ARMEN_ has joined ##bootstrap[10:45:12] *** zorak8 has quit IRC[10:48:03] *** EREVAN has quit IRC[10:48:04] *** ARMEN_ is now known as EREVAN[10:54:47] *** lorfds has quit IRC[11:03:33] *** FourOhFoured has quit IRC[11:10:04] <vanseverk> Hi guys. I want to make a page with a div centered vertically and horizontally. So it's in the perfect center. Horizontal is easy, but is there a proper way to do it vertically?[11:16:37] *** ColdKeyboard has quit IRC[11:20:36] *** Hakuna-Matata has quit IRC[11:26:55] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[11:31:30] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[11:31:33] *** ledestin has joined ##bootstrap[11:50:59] *** burper has joined ##bootstrap[11:50:59] *** burper has left ##bootstrap[11:51:03] *** morenoh150 has joined ##bootstrap[11:53:00] *** tacoshellmcgee has joined ##bootstrap[12:05:21] *** tacoshellmcgee has quit IRC[12:05:43] *** tacoshellmcgee has joined ##bootstrap[12:06:09] *** beneggett has quit IRC[12:18:54] *** qdk has quit IRC[12:38:31] *** Zoddo has joined ##bootstrap[12:39:25] *** marlinc has quit IRC[12:50:22] *** marlinc has joined ##bootstrap[13:05:36] *** ledestin has quit IRC[13:18:46] *** _yoy_ has quit IRC[13:20:32] *** _yoy_ has joined ##bootstrap[13:22:29] *** tacoshellmcgee has quit IRC[13:30:28] *** Itakmar has joined ##bootstrap[13:39:39] *** gtristan has quit IRC[14:08:52] *** drej has joined ##bootstrap[14:14:26] *** SexualRickshaw has quit IRC[14:16:00] *** SexualRickshaw has joined ##bootstrap[14:27:34] *** eBureau has joined ##bootstrap[14:30:01] *** gtristan has joined ##bootstrap[14:34:46] *** Trow has joined ##bootstrap[14:36:14] *** Trow has joined ##bootstrap[14:37:26] *** Trow has joined ##bootstrap[14:41:03] *** felipedvorak has left ##bootstrap[14:52:14] *** burper has joined ##bootstrap[14:52:15] *** burper has left ##bootstrap[14:56:54] *** Trow has quit IRC[14:59:09] *** Trow has joined ##bootstrap[15:01:09] *** drej has quit IRC[15:04:39] *** hmsimha has quit IRC[15:07:23] *** Superburke has joined ##bootstrap[15:35:00] *** zack6849 has quit IRC[15:36:15] *** Fusl has quit IRC[15:36:25] *** zack6849 has joined ##bootstrap[15:36:25] *** zack6849 has joined ##bootstrap[15:41:46] *** Fusl has joined ##bootstrap[15:56:04] *** Dynamite874[Vamp has joined ##bootstrap[16:00:14] *** Pyr0s has quit IRC[16:03:18] *** EREVAN has quit IRC[16:06:00] *** lorfds has joined ##bootstrap[17:11:39] *** MEGAGHZ has joined ##bootstrap[17:24:27] *** mikerrrrrr has joined ##bootstrap[17:25:34] *** lorfds has quit IRC[17:30:57] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[17:32:57] *** Pyr0s has joined ##bootstrap[17:34:11] *** Shrooms has quit IRC[17:35:24] <Pyr0s> :)[17:35:52] *** Lourch14 has joined ##bootstrap[17:37:31] *** Lourch14 has quit IRC[17:37:41] *** Valduare has joined ##bootstrap[17:39:42] *** morenoh150 has quit IRC[17:42:43] *** iraj has quit IRC[17:55:44] *** enav has quit IRC[17:55:48] *** ejb has joined ##bootstrap[17:56:05] *** tortal has quit IRC[18:08:27] *** D9 has joined ##bootstrap[18:10:33] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[18:22:17] *** k-joseph has joined ##bootstrap[18:34:51] *** drej has joined ##bootstrap[18:37:22] *** D9 has quit IRC[18:44:10] *** insu has joined ##bootstrap[18:45:05] <Pyr0s> oniijin, I've started using Emmet for ST. It's amazing lol[18:45:21] <Pyr0s> Emmet for HTML and Hayuka for CSS[18:50:14] *** drej has quit IRC[18:53:18] *** kyl0micron has joined ##bootstrap[18:57:44] *** MEGAGHZ_ has joined ##bootstrap[18:59:14] *** boink__ has joined ##bootstrap[18:59:19] *** Trow has quit IRC[19:00:50] *** Trow has joined ##bootstrap[19:01:53] *** k-joseph has quit IRC[19:04:40] *** drej has joined ##bootstrap[19:06:35] *** badon has quit IRC[19:10:48] *** badon has joined ##bootstrap[19:11:52] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[19:12:18] *** amyers has quit IRC[19:12:39] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[19:14:39] *** drej has quit IRC[19:15:03] *** ejb has quit IRC[19:19:54] *** MEGAGHZ_ has quit IRC[19:20:20] *** enav has quit IRC[19:21:19] *** Zoddo has quit IRC[19:30:18] *** amyers has quit IRC[19:41:30] *** dan2k3k4 has joined ##bootstrap[19:55:19] *** Technodrome has joined ##bootstrap[20:00:22] *** D9 has joined ##bootstrap[20:03:33] *** hExDJ has joined ##bootstrap[20:08:12] *** Pyr0s has quit IRC[20:10:36] *** lorfds has joined ##bootstrap[20:16:37] *** D9 has quit IRC[20:21:54] *** enav has joined ##bootstrap[20:36:40] *** Alina-malina has quit IRC[20:42:16] *** hExDJ has quit IRC[20:43:05] *** enav has quit IRC[20:51:50] *** Hakuna-Matata has joined ##bootstrap[20:52:20] *** Pyr0s has joined ##bootstrap[20:53:47] *** stevecrozz has joined ##bootstrap[20:57:22] *** lorfds has quit IRC[21:03:31] <Technodrome> in bootstrap whats the best html element to use for custom text classes? a span or just use a paragraph element[21:06:37] *** Alina-malina has joined ##bootstrap[21:27:05] *** Trow has quit IRC[21:34:51] *** m0ltar has joined ##bootstrap[21:35:28] *** morenoh150 has joined ##bootstrap[21:35:29] *** m0ltar has quit IRC[21:39:52] *** morenoh150 has quit IRC[21:54:21] *** zorak8 has joined ##bootstrap[22:00:43] <Valduare> Technodrome: i keep seeing people use span[22:01:12] <Technodrome> well i have a span tag in a column[22:01:16] <Technodrome> and it won’t center[22:19:08] *** hmsimha has joined ##bootstrap[22:20:41] *** tirengarfio has quit IRC[22:26:11] *** Alina-malina has quit IRC[22:30:49] *** Technodrome has quit IRC[22:33:48] *** tortal has joined ##bootstrap[22:33:48] *** tortal has joined ##bootstrap[22:41:20] *** greenerr has joined ##bootstrap[22:49:45] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[22:49:45] *** Shrooms has joined ##bootstrap[22:55:49] *** Technodrome has joined ##bootstrap[22:58:27] *** zorak8 has quit IRC[23:03:49] *** morenoh150 has joined ##bootstrap[23:04:25] *** zorak8 has joined ##bootstrap[23:06:12] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[23:06:37] *** amyers has quit IRC[23:06:59] *** amyers has joined ##bootstrap[23:07:48] *** m0ltar has joined ##bootstrap[23:08:23] *** Technodrome has quit IRC[23:21:37] *** kyl0micron has quit IRC[23:22:40] *** zorak8 has quit IRC[23:24:42] *** frigginglorious has joined ##bootstrap[23:36:22] *** MEGAGHZ has quit IRC[23:40:16] *** mikerrrrrr has quit IRC[23:48:31] *** Alina-malina has joined ##bootstrap[23:49:52] *** shiftins has joined ##bootstrap[23:51:06] *** qdk has joined ##bootstrap