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[01:23:38] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.slyck.com/story1914_MPAA_RIAA_Want_Canada_to_Remain_on_Copyright_Watch_List
[01:25:36] <K`Tetch_> Tom's started writing again?
[01:26:41] <DeHackEd> I like the Protect American Jobs bit. You'd think us canadians don't care about what we produce either.
[01:26:57] <TheSHAD0W> ...
[01:27:01] <K`Tetch_> yeah, but you're cnadians, you don't matter
[01:27:02] <TheSHAD0W> Canadians produce stuff?
[01:27:08] * TheSHAD0W runs away!
[01:27:16] <DeHackEd> well, a few things. Even after we throw Celine Dion out.
[01:27:21] <DeHackEd> I mean, you got me.
[01:27:22] * K`Tetch_ hopes all y'all americans sent USTR kirk a stiff letter this week
[01:27:51] <K`Tetch_> you produce erm,, erm, bacon, and maple syrup, and erm.... tooks?
[01:28:29] <K`Tetch_> tuque even
[01:29:29] <K`Tetch_> and cold
[01:29:32] <K`Tetch_> you make lots of that
[01:29:37] <TheSHAD0W> And Terence and Phillips!
[01:30:18] <K`Tetch_> farts!
[01:38:44] <andar2> poutines
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[03:22:39] <charles> well there's Corner Gas... and Rush
[03:22:59] <charles> and
[03:23:09] <charles> hm.  did I say Rush already?
[03:37:24] <andar> neal peart!
[03:37:33] <andar> neil*
[03:37:46] <andar> neil young!
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[07:32:03] <c0mmunist> I would just like to know if I am downloading torrents through an OpenVPN VPN provider with its own IP address, is my router taking the abuse of multiple connections or is it theirs?
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[08:30:29] <chelz> http://filenetworks.blogspot.com/2010/02/vuze-and-deluge-to-be-banned-on-whatcd.html
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[08:47:13] <_rafi_> welcome to the club... http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=453406#p453406
[08:48:12] <_rafi_> uT + vuze + deluge.. so who's left ? ... ;)
[08:49:33] <chelz> bitcomet :P
[08:50:38] <_rafi_> ...
[08:51:52] <_rafi_> hmm... back to good old BC... ;P
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[10:13:49] <c0mmunist> hi
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[11:53:50] <The_8472> c0mmunist, theirs.
[13:27:47] <GabydeWilde_> I can totally see that one. Bittorrent a kind of communism. lol
[13:28:17] <GabydeWilde_> I'm sure the singing dead people industry will love that one.
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[13:45:20] <The_8472> bittorrent at its core is more about enlightened self-interest rather than communism
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[13:58:38] <Andrius> wait, wasn't bittorrent about stealing and ripping of entertainment industry?
[13:59:42] <The_8472> nono, it was about cheaply distributing porn to the masses
[13:59:55] <The_8472> like anything else on the internet
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[14:13:13] <GabydeWilde_> I have a question
[14:13:32] <GabydeWilde_> Is there any way to add a seeding ip to a magnet uri?
[14:13:55] <The_8472> why would you want to do that?
[14:14:08] <GabydeWilde_> to avoid using a tracker
[14:14:20] <The_8472> you don't have to add a tracker
[14:14:55] <GabydeWilde_> if I make a torrent and add it to my client then give you the magnet uri it starts downloading right away?
[14:15:08] <DWKnight> usual DHT related lag, but yes
[14:15:16] <The_8472> well, it might take a minute or so to find it via
[14:15:17] <The_8472> DHT
[14:15:18] <The_8472> but yes
[14:15:31] <GabydeWilde_> thats why I ask
[14:16:14] <GabydeWilde_> seems sensible for a torrent that will only have a hand full of seeds to have something to get it started in less than ... how long would DHT take?
[14:16:37] <The_8472> generally less than a minute
[14:16:58] <GabydeWilde_> utorrent for example allows me to add a peer manually
[14:17:40] <The_8472> are you saying that a minute is too long for a torrent that might take hours to download?
[14:18:19] <GabydeWilde_> it is for files a few mb in size at most
[14:18:35] <The_8472> well, bittorrent isn't really designed for that
[14:18:40] <DWKnight> and besides
[14:18:53] <DWKnight> a minute is one of those "edge" cases that happens about 2% of the time
[14:19:06] <DWKnight> 10 seconds is the slowest I've seen a DHT torrent start
[14:19:25] <GabydeWilde_> one with seeds you mean?
[14:19:51] <The_8472> what do you mean?
[14:20:02] <The_8472> getting the torrent started doesn't depend on whether there are seeds or peers
[14:20:10] <DWKnight> with or without seeds
[14:20:12] <DWKnight> doesn't matter
[14:20:12] <The_8472> as long as anyone on the DHT has it you can get it
[14:20:24] <GabydeWilde_> nice :)
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[14:22:13] <GabydeWilde_> my imagination gives me a picture with a whole lot of hash swapping to make the thing start
[14:22:28] <The_8472> ?
[14:22:55] <DWKnight> me spending a year downloading stuff on edonkey made me want to punch people who complain about 1 minute start delays.
[14:22:58] <GabydeWilde_> compared to directly connecting I mean
[14:23:32] <The_8472> i think you don't quite understand how it works. or you're not expressing your thoughts well
[14:23:48] <GabydeWilde_> DWKnight: I'm talking about things I want to upload ;)
[14:24:10] <DWKnight> impatience breeds incompetence
[14:24:55] <Andrius> <GabydeWilde_> my imagination gives me a picture with a whole lot of hash swapping to make the thing start < now imagine that this hash swapping is really fast, that's how DHT works
[14:24:57] <GabydeWilde_> The_8472: directly connecting to the seed seems to use very little resources in the imagination that is entirely my own, thank you for letting me have it.
[14:25:47] <The_8472> the DHT is just a source for seed/peer IPs
[14:25:57] <The_8472> you find them, connect to them and then obtain the .torrent from them
[14:26:00] <GabydeWilde_> and it works really well
[14:27:15] <DWKnight> the more popular the torrent, the closer to 0 second wait time you get
[14:28:45] <GabydeWilde_> excuse me for wording it wrongly but how scalable is DHT? If there would be 1000 times as much torrents would it work even better?
[14:30:14] <The_8472> it doesnt really depend on the number of torrents but on the ratio nodes actively using it and nodes just sitting there and not using it (much)
[14:30:39] <Andrius> bigger problem would be a lack of peers, which isn't going to happen anytime soon
[14:30:58] <The_8472> if you increase the number of torrents used by people then it's quite likely that the number of people per torrent decreases
[14:32:54] <GabydeWilde_> if we would all start using bittorrent for small files one day the number of hashies could grow dramatically. This wouldn't be a problem?
[14:33:19] <GabydeWilde_> just as long as there are enough seeds?
[14:33:24] <Andrius> it doesn't really make sense to use bt for small files
[14:33:45] <GabydeWilde_> but we could
[14:33:50] <Andrius> DHT doesn't care about seeds and peers, it has nodes
[14:34:35] <The_8472> magnet links care though. someone has to have that torrent active for it to be obtainable via dht
[14:35:09] <GabydeWilde_> lots of dead torrents wouldn't be harmful in the long run?
[14:35:11] <The_8472> but the DHT itself scales fairly well. if more people use it there's more room for hashes too
[14:35:24] <The_8472> dead torrents are not in the dht. only active ones are
[14:36:28] <GabydeWilde_> another nub question, is there a way to make a file with a shortcut to a magnet uri?
[14:36:58] <DWKnight> without a torrent?
[14:37:02] <GabydeWilde_> yes
[14:37:07] <DWKnight> it wouldn't be compatible with torrent clients in that case
[14:37:23] <GabydeWilde_> thats what I thought
[14:37:35] <GabydeWilde_> so should use html with a link on the "page"?
[14:37:41] <The_8472> i didn't even understand the question
[14:38:01] <DWKnight> The_8472: you didn't spend any time supporting shareaza
[14:38:22] <DWKnight> GabydeWilde_: you need a .torrent in order to make a magnet that is compatible with torrent clients
[14:38:23] <GabydeWilde_> The_8472: say I want to make a link to torrent 1 in torrent 2
[14:38:48] <GabydeWilde_> I can of course use the torrent file, that is np
[14:39:13] <GabydeWilde_> just wanted to know if I can use the magnet links also
[14:39:20] <The_8472> <GabydeWilde_> The_8472: say I want to make a link to torrent 1 in torrent 2 <- for associated content we have RSS feeds
[14:39:40] <GabydeWilde_> those require a living server ;)
[14:39:52] <The_8472> yes, and?
[14:40:09] <GabydeWilde_> I'm going to die some day and you still want to watch my videos :P
[14:40:43] <The_8472> the torrents wont exist by then
[14:40:55] <GabydeWilde_> depends on how awesome they are
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[14:41:12] <The_8472> the oldest torrent i've seen so far was about 3 years old
[14:41:41] <GabydeWilde_> I have older ones
[14:41:44] <The_8472> except for torrents backed by... servers
[14:41:57] <GabydeWilde_> but we had other tech back then
[14:42:37] <GabydeWilde_> like for example google video
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[14:44:17] <GabydeWilde_> the wayback machine wasn't as overloaded as it is now, it captured a high percentage in it's beginnings.
[14:45:27] <The_8472> it seems like you're going off on a tangent
[14:45:57] <GabydeWilde_> just thinking out loud :)
[14:46:24] <GabydeWilde_> people have a hard time following my train but it's ok, I forgive you :P
[14:46:52] <DWKnight> with your 120deg turns
[14:47:03] <GabydeWilde_> hehehe
[14:47:05] <The_8472> oh yes, because you're so intelligent we lowly beings can't follow you ~~
[14:47:49] <GabydeWilde_> Dont forget I have to word everyting carefully here to avoid saying "sharing" and pervert the teachings of marx.
[14:48:13] <GabydeWilde_> to save the singing dead peoples industries
[14:48:52] <GabydeWilde_> I wouldn't call myself intelligent, more creative, but thanks for the compliment.
[14:50:26] <The_8472> hrrm...
[14:50:35] <The_8472> looks like another shipment of faulty saracasm detectors
[14:51:18] <GabydeWilde_> I'm having quite a good time lauging about my own jokes, just trying to share the love.... ow now I said "share" again ... :|
[14:52:54] * GabydeWilde_ wonders if al qaeda uses bittorrent...
[14:53:26] <The_8472> they must be using itunes. apple added a clause to ther terms&conditions that terrorist organisations may not use itunes
[14:54:21] <GabydeWilde_> probably not an interesting market for them.
[14:56:10] <GabydeWilde_> so the terrorists must be using the hash tables, there cant be any other way.
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[15:24:10] <TheSHAD0W> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/20/0348239
[15:34:15] <charles> GabydeWilde_: AQ seems more the emule type
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[16:07:08] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/elderly-pirate-filming-avatar-for-wife-at-glendale/1756250.aspx - damn cammers!
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[16:22:16] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.codeorgan.com/
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[17:38:12] <GabydeWilde_> soon there will be camera implants for the masses TheSHAD0W, nothing will stop hd (night) vision :P
[17:38:47] <TheSHAD0W> I want mine in the middle of my forehead.
[17:40:07] <Andrius> I want mine on the back of my head
[17:41:16] <GabydeWilde_> extra limbs seems interesting
[17:41:23] <GabydeWilde_> antenas on teh head
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[20:11:37] <TheSHAD0W> http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-quickly-investigate-a-fake-bittorrent-tracker-100220/
[20:13:17] <TheSHAD0W> Hey, DeHackEd, you've been mentioned.
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