February 17, 2010  
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[00:00:05] <Balsaq> i'm dead meat if cnet is malicious. i have d'loaded  and installed several programs from there. i did scan each file with avast and then malwarebytes before installation and then re-checked my systems by running hjack this too.
[00:01:03] <mpl> Balsaq: even if there is no spyware, that does not tell you that 1) everything downloaded fine, 2) that what they provide is the same thing that the original authors provided.
[00:01:09] <alus> mpl: but the official site is just as vulnerable to those attacks
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[00:01:24] <mpl> alus: what attack?
[00:01:37] <alus> mpl: anything that would make the download not go fine
[00:01:51] <alus> mpl: not to mention the HTML itself which contains the md5/sha1
[00:01:57] <mpl> oh sure, I never said it prevented that.
[00:02:16] <Balsaq> ok so i am better off on the official site
[00:02:20] <mpl> and I wasn't even talking of an attack, lots of thing can go wrong when dling without any malice behind.
[00:02:45] <alus> you might as well just say the size of the file
[00:03:03] <DreadWingKnight> dlink dmz download destroyer
[00:03:07] <DreadWingKnight> whoops
[00:03:07] <mpl> yep, that's pretty safe if you assume no malice indeed.
[00:03:14] <DreadWingKnight> there goes the "size of file" thing
[00:03:27] <alus> well, that could corrupt the HTML too
[00:03:30] <Balsaq> i noticed cnet because on night when i had a problem, i let dell remotely control my computer, when they were unable to fix it , they went to cnet and began downloading.
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[00:03:49] <alus> so, instead of verifying everything you download, replace your broken hardware
[00:03:53] <DeHackEd> god BLESS packet mangling routers
[00:04:16] <Balsaq> i second that!
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[00:05:42] <alus> what do they replace, port numbers or ips?
[00:05:51] <DeHackEd> payload
[00:05:51] <alus> or port numbers which occur after some ip?
[00:06:02] <alus> no, what are they trying to replace
[00:06:18] <DeHackEd> they're supposedly trying to rewrite packets which may include your own IP in the payload, but more often than not they just f**k everything hp
[00:06:49] <DeHackEd> not like NAT routers have been popular for at LEAST 5 years. if your app isn't at least that aware of NAT, you're an idiot
[00:08:31] <mpl> or you're really hoping for ipv6 to kick in everywhere soon (and hence you're also an idiot) ;)
[00:08:50] <alus> hm, and javascript can't get the local IP. lame
[00:09:28] <DeHackEd> why would you need that? if you need the public IP, hit whatismyip.org. If you need the private IP, see figure one
[00:10:36] <Balsaq> here is one called bittorrent at www.bittorrent.com, is that the real deal?
[00:10:54] <DeHackEd> what version?
[00:11:02] <Balsaq> brb
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[00:11:57] <Balsaq> no number on it but its the 1st thing that comes up on www.bittorrent.com
[00:12:48] <DeHackEd> it is the real deal, but there's an old python client which is past version 4.x or 5.x. So if you get that, it's not the same thing as utorrent
[00:13:00] <DeHackEd> but I can't check because the download button isn't working for me
[00:13:00] <Balsaq> hmmm
[00:13:15] <Balsaq> i will check the utorrrent number
[00:13:30] <DeHackEd> if it explicitly says utorrent then it's good
[00:14:12] <Balsaq> 2.0 17920 (for the utorrent)
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[00:14:40] <DeHackEd> nice
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[00:25:55] <Balsaq> doesn't mention windows 7 though ok so thats the new version, good, wish it said it was made for w7...which i am running on this particular computer?
[00:26:09] <DeHackEd> if it works on vista, 7 will be fine
[00:26:13] <Balsaq> it does say vista
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[00:56:24] <Switeck> What's the FDM 3.x BitTorrent client? I'm seeing that in my peer list.
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[01:03:35] <DreadWingKnight> FreeDownloadManager
[01:03:48] <DreadWingKnight> every download manager is trying to be a bittorrent client
[01:04:48] <DreadWingKnight> most fail miserably
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[01:07:21] <Switeck> It floods logger with error messages :P
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[03:42:10] <TheSHAD0W> Fscking forum spam is fscking annoying.
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[05:50:25] <A9> alus: For the most part, thank you.
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[14:00:39] <yehaT> hey, does anyone know if the utorrent webui can be customized? i'd like to add some features
[14:08:29] <DWKnight> it can
[14:08:40] <DWKnight> although some of the features you want to add may not be possible
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[14:13:49] <yehaT> okay, do you know if there's some issues related to connecting to ut itself with the modified webui? i haven't done any web/js dev, but I guess there would be some xss-blocking issue depending on how it talks with ut
[14:14:17] <yehaT> as normally the .js are served from the host with ut in it.
[14:14:35] <DWKnight> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewforum.php?id=20
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[14:23:31] <yehaT> i get that it loads the webui from appdata/ut folder
[14:25:49] * DWKnight facepalms
[14:26:08] <DWKnight> what you don't get is the contents of that forum
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[20:19:52] <The_8472> TheSHAD0W, yes?
[20:20:09] <TheSHAD0W> DCC...
[20:21:25] <The_8472> heh
[20:22:01] <The_8472> well, at least they're aware of the issue
[20:22:06] <TheSHAD0W> *nod*
[20:22:40] <The_8472> if that site were reachable via ipv6 i would have a field day contaminating their database :3
[20:22:45] <TheSHAD0W> LMAO
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[20:59:47] <alus> The_8472, TheSHAD0W: no secrets!
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[21:44:34] <TheSHAD0W> alus: DCC...
[21:45:01] <TheSHAD0W> Bleh, I gotta go.  n/m
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[22:23:42] <alus> irc sucks so bad
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[22:38:03] <satz> Is there anyway to find out if someone uses pgms lik greedy torrent,ratio fake to cheat the tracker.?
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[23:55:53] <Switeck> uTorrent v2.0 "Unethical" Features?  (And to think this is called a "feature request")  http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=68934
[23:56:49] <Switeck> Once again, Private Trackers are making a big deal about uTP.
[23:57:44] <Nolar> would be nice to compare swarm segmentation with and without utp enabled
[23:59:36] <WhatMan> Switeck: Not all of them. We're going to recommend an upgrade to uTorrent 2.0.

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