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[01:52:08] <sktrdie> hi
[01:52:22] <sktrdie> how does BitTorrents tracker know about the connecting peers?
[01:52:27] <sktrdie> does it hold them in a database?
[01:53:16] <Nolar> or memory
[01:55:28] <sktrdie> hrm
[01:55:37] <sktrdie> but isn't the tracker server from an HTTP server
[01:56:20] <sktrdie> how does the HTTP request process save it in memory? the process ends as soon as the request is over :|
[01:56:27] <Nolar> yes, the frontend speaks http to clients
[01:56:45] <Nolar> what you're asking is server/programming basics, not bittorrent
[01:57:11] <Nolar> most trackers are not classic "web" servers like apache
[01:57:23] <sktrdie> oh
[01:57:35] <sktrdie> so they must be hosted on particular HTTP server?
[01:57:37] <sktrdie> *servers
[01:57:45] <sktrdie> like event based ones?
[01:58:45] <Nolar> most build their own servers yes
[01:58:55] <Nolar> or use a library
[01:59:26] <sktrdie> ok
[01:59:34] <sktrdie> is it standard to do so?
[01:59:41] <sktrdie> or it obligatory?
[01:59:45] <sktrdie> *is it
[02:00:13] <sktrdie> i guess as long as the request returns the right daya
[02:00:15] <sktrdie> *tata
[02:00:17] <sktrdie> *data
[02:00:21] <sktrdie> i can implement it as i like
[02:00:41] <Nolar> right, as long as you speak http to the clients, you can do whatever
[02:01:34] <Nolar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opentracker
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[02:19:47] <The_8472> there are PHP based trackers too, they usually use a database to store things
[02:20:28] <The_8472> ofc you could use memdb if or that object caching service... whatitsname..
[02:20:35] <The_8472> anyway, those are implementation details
[02:29:27] <Nolar> memcached
[02:29:45] <Nolar> php + memcached can go far
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[14:36:31] <erdgeist> The_8472: no, not disabled, but you can configure the path to stats now
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[14:42:05] <The_8472> ah, ok. i wanted to have a look at some trackers and /stats wasn't working :(
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[15:33:41] <Mekkis> is it possible to get a bittorrent client that doesn't /look/ like a bittorrent client from the point of view of someone logged into the machine?
[15:45:45] <The_8472> there are clients with commandline interfaces
[15:46:03] <The_8472> but i simply suggest to use user account management if you value your privacy
[15:46:13] <The_8472> your account = nobody's business
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[16:10:30] <Gottaname> Mekkis: nice try, any system administrator can sniff out a bittorrent client running illegally a mile away
[16:10:34] <Gottaname> don't test the system.
[16:12:03] <Gottaname> the giveaway isn't in the looks of it, but the bandwidth + resources consumed
[16:37:47] <Mekkis> Gottaname, would they be able to tell the difference between a bittorrent client running on the machine, and a client using bittorrent over SOCKS proxy over an ssh tunnel on that same box?
[16:39:09] <charles> what an admin will notice that, of the 1000 boxes they administer, 1 box is suddenly using more bandwidth than the other 999 combined.  Proxies, tunnels, etc. won't change that
[16:40:05] <charles> and really there's not much upside to trying to sneak around your network's policies.  Better to shop with your feet and use a better network
[16:43:49] <Mekkis> maybe I'm approaching this from the wrong angle: I have a few servers I hand out shell accounts for. One of the things the network provider requires is that I don't run any p2p clients on the boxes, although they don't seem to have a problem if large amounts of p2p traffic is tunnelled through there. I was wondering if I would be able to tell the difference, as the administrator of the box.
[16:52:17] <The_8472> ps faux
[16:52:37] <The_8472> lsof -i
[16:52:40] <The_8472> so, yes
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[21:05:58] * DreadWingKnight looked over web.archive.org to see how long he has been working with torrenting
[21:07:28] <DeHackEd> can you remember the first thing you downloaded?
[21:10:03] <DreadWingKnight> no
[21:10:13] <DreadWingKnight> I'm just going on when I got into tracker code for the first time
[21:13:19] <DreadWingKnight> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=67134
[21:13:36] <DreadWingKnight> this guy trying to tell me that he's not getting good speeds because he's not connecting to seeds
[21:17:53] <Andrius> he obviously knows better than you do!
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[21:18:16] <DreadWingKnight> you heard that explosion, right?
[21:18:23] <DreadWingKnight> that was me losing another sarcasm detector
[21:19:46] <Andrius> sorry, I'd send you another one, but I don't know one that works on the internet
[21:20:16] <charles> DreadWingKnight: but he's downloaded torrents for /years/!
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[21:32:09] <DreadWingKnight> and 4 years is not quite right, been at it for 6
[21:43:28] <The_8472> <Andrius> sorry, I'd send you another one, but I don't know one that works on the internet <- the sarcasm punctuation mark will fix that, certainly!
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[23:58:40] <sktrdie> hey, i'm having trouble with port forwarding
[23:58:52] <sktrdie> i dont have to restart my router everytime i change a setting for my NAT, right?
[23:59:55] <DeHackEd> typically no





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