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[18:58:08] <pevangelista> Hello all!
[18:59:42] <pevangelista> Question about protocol: Say my client is interested in a peer, and this peer unchokes him.
[19:00:07] <pevangelista> Should my client request one piece at a time, or should it send several requests at a time?
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[19:01:14] <mpl> several. don't wait for a piece to come back to ask for another one.
[19:01:47] <pevangelista> thanks!
[19:02:16] <mpl> http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification#Queuing
[19:04:42] <pevangelista> Ah, finally understood this!
[19:05:55] <pevangelista> Do you know, by any chance, if there is any academic study about the effects of queueing in performance?
[19:07:08] <pevangelista> Another question. Should I queue the other messages too?
[19:07:27] <pevangelista> It seems to me that this is not necessary
[19:08:01] <Nolar> most implementations vary the queue length, based on throughput
[19:08:24] <pevangelista> Queueing have, interest, cancel, keep-alive and choke messages
[19:09:35] <Switeck> Some clients have started using their piece queuing as a means of regulating download speed.
[19:10:02] <pevangelista> My thought is since these messages have small payloads, there is no need to queue them.
[19:11:01] <Nolar> pretty much
[19:11:29] <Nolar> although "grouping" have messages can help
[19:11:33] <Switeck> It tends to be more effective to delay 16 KB piece requests than trying to delay ACKs to regulate download.
[19:11:55] <Nolar> i.e. fit enough into one packet, vs a whole bunch of separate packets, but that's an optimization
[19:14:22] <pevangelista> Nolar: Cool idea. It is kinda counter-productive to send a lot of 1 Byte messages, each one in its own packet
[19:16:58] <pevangelista> Hey, unrelated question: Are the messages of this channel logged?
[19:17:23] <The_8472> yes
[19:17:28] * The_8472 points at echelog
[19:18:38] <mpl> dear Echelon, please give me the logs of 12/03/2009 ?
[19:19:28] <pevangelista> How does that work? I know almost nothing about irc =P
[19:19:45] <mpl> echelog: help
[19:19:50] <The_8472> it just dumps it to some website
[19:20:09] <mpl> .help
[19:20:13] <The_8472> http://echelog.matzon.dk/logs/browse/bittorrent/1264114800
[19:20:22] <Nolar> it's the internet. assume somebody is always watching ;)
[19:20:39] <pevangelista> hahaha, I forget sometimes
[19:20:43] <pevangelista> .help
[19:20:50] <pevangelista> echelog: help
[19:21:50] <pevangelista> There it is! Just read my own messages there.
[19:22:43] <pevangelista> Learning something new everyday
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[22:58:19] <alus> The_8472: hydri and I
[22:58:59] <The_8472> well, you already did... could you get him to comment on the BEP too?
[22:59:12] <hydri> The_8472: which bep?
[22:59:22] <The_8472> 33, dht scrapes
[22:59:31] <The_8472> http://forum.bittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?id=149
[22:59:34] <hydri> oh, I'll take a look
[22:59:35] <hydri> thanks
[22:59:40] <alus> bepp really
[23:01:17] <The_8472> well, yeah
[23:01:30] <The_8472> but with nobody commenting on it it'll never go forward ^^
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