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[03:56:16] <TheSHAD0W> http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/01/19/1649244
[03:57:11] <DeHackEd> seen it
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[03:59:55] <The_8472> hahaha, nice one. and it somehow reminds me of something... i just can't put my finger on it
[04:00:04] <DeHackEd> it'll come to you
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[07:40:39] <The_8472> http://forum.bittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?pid=920#p920 <- BEP for DHT scrapes
[07:40:44] * The_8472 pokes alus
[07:41:12] <alus> owie
[07:41:16] <alus> oh
[07:43:29] <alus> "The number of concurrently active scrapes for inactive torrents should be limited" to what?
[07:43:55] <alus> also on the timeouts and concurrency
[07:44:02] <alus> just throw some numbers out there.
[07:44:27] <The_8472> well, idk what other implementations are using. ^^
[07:44:34] <The_8472> but ok
[07:45:13] <alus> "... count can be estimated, the" is truncated there
[07:46:47] <alus> hm. torrents larger than 8000.
[07:47:25] <The_8472> 6000 actually to leave some room for some future math-fu
[07:47:37] <alus> isn't there an upper limit on how many peer addresses could actually be stored for one torrent?
[07:47:45] <alus> in the DHT today
[07:47:54] <The_8472> not really
[07:48:15] <The_8472> i mean individual nodes might drop values... but there is nothing standardized. and we can always store on more nodes than 8
[07:48:59] <alus> do we, though?
[07:49:22] <The_8472> i do if nodes refuse to store, either by omitting the token or not responding to an announce request
[07:49:41] <The_8472> then i backtrack and try to store on a different node
[07:52:43] <alus> hm
[07:53:11] * alus reads the DHT BEP
[07:53:37] <alus> "It is important that each node's routing table must contain only known good nodes."
[07:53:45] * alus stops reading the DHT BEP
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[07:54:35] <alus> the pdf has some suggestions
[07:54:47] <The_8472> yeah, i know.
[07:56:27] <The_8472> i'm using K=8, N=10 and an RPC timeout of 10s, but i assume other implementations might be far more aggressive with their timeouts
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[08:02:52] <The_8472> heh, the original paper suggests K=20 and N=3
[08:04:15] <The_8472> hrrm... but yeah, K=8 is bt dht standard. no N defined though.
[08:06:01] <The_8472> well, updated the file
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[19:54:32] <burris> next time someone tries to lowball me, I'll reply that the goddamn kettle corn guy at the farmers market charges more than that ($350/hr minimum 2 hours)
[20:00:26] <burris> "gimme a break, your wedding coordinator charged more than that"
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[20:42:30] <Koper> info_hash
[20:42:30] <Koper> The 20 byte sha1 hash of the bencoded form of the info value from the metainfo file. Note that this is a substring of the metainfo file. This value will almost certainly have to be escaped.
[20:42:54] <Koper> This is not very clear.. For example, are 'b' and 'e' (the letters that mark the begin and end of the metainfo dictionary) included in the hash ?
[20:43:36] <Koper> Also the info dictionary has some optional fields, such as "md5sum".. So two torrents that are identical, but one of the two has been generated without a md5sum, will have two different hashes?
[20:44:11] <DreadWingKnight> [3:44:58pm] <Koper> Also the info dictionary has some optional fields, such as "md5sum".. So two torrents that are identical, but one of the two has been generated without a md5sum, will have two different hashes? <-- yes
[20:45:29] <DreadWingKnight> [3:44:15pm] <Koper> This is not very clear.. For example, are 'b' and 'e' (the letters that mark the begin and end of the metainfo dictionary) included in the hash ? <-- it's "d" and "e" not "b" and "e" but yes they are
[20:45:59] <Koper> ok so the hash starts from the 'b' and ends with the 'e', right?
[20:46:33] <DreadWingKnight> from the "d"
[20:46:35] <DreadWingKnight> not the b
[20:46:45] <DreadWingKnight> I don't know where you're getting the "b" from
[20:47:08] <Koper> yes d sorry
[20:47:30] <Koper> From binary I guess :P
[20:48:36] * DreadWingKnight slaps Koper with a trout
[20:48:59] <DreadWingKnight> anyway
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[21:14:56] <Koper> Yay my .torrent parser works perfectly now.. :D
[21:18:06] <charles> Koper: does it handle http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/667 ;)
[21:19:42] <The_8472> infohash = sha1(bencode(bdecode(.torrent)["info"]))
[21:22:33] <Koper> No charles, but I thought of a similar attack
[21:23:26] <Koper> I was actually thinking of someone possibly uploading a huge (gigabytes) .torrent file with a long string and that would use up all the RAM
[21:23:37] <Koper> But that attack is much smarter as it requires much less space
[21:24:50] <Koper> I wonder though what happens if I load the following torrent with transmission: 2147483647:a
[21:25:21] <Koper> Will it try to preallocate the memory before realizing that the string length is much bigger than the whole file ?
[21:27:51] <charles> I think it will spit it out as invalid.  Let me add that line to the unit test and find out
[21:29:05] <charles> looks like I've already got a smaller version of that test "1:"
[21:29:10] <charles> I'll try yours too
[21:30:06] <charles> yes, it passes.  it compares the advertised length against the remaining string length
[21:31:11] <Koper> good :)
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[21:49:54] <nononono> which ports do I need to open to fully connect to all peers? Seems that blocking everything but http, the torrent client port and the tracker's ports prevents many many peers from connecting to me
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[22:06:17] <The_8472> nononono, for outgoing connections you have to allow all destination ports. for incoming connections only the listening port
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