[00:08:14] <mpl> TheSHAD0W: why do you want to fork BitTorrent and implement whatever you want in the client you're already working on?
[00:08:32] <mpl> * and not
[00:08:43] <TheSHAD0W> I could...
[00:08:50] <TheSHAD0W> But there are issues with my codebase.
[00:08:57] <mpl> uhm
[00:09:06] <TheSHAD0W> Also, I'd rather not do it all on my lonesome.
[00:09:21] <mpl> remind me, you're on Vuze, right?
[00:09:28] <TheSHAD0W> BitTornado.
[00:09:32] <mpl> ah, ok.
[00:10:14] <mpl> well, if the changes you want to make do make sense, won't the other clients more or less follow ?
[00:10:35] <mpl> I thought you guys discussed that kind of stuff here and on the forums?
[00:10:56] <TheSHAD0W> Gee, that's what I thought I was trying to do.  :-P
[00:10:57] <mpl> although I have no idea how many of the clients are "represented" here...
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[00:58:05] <The_8472> a few tracker people are here too
[00:58:28] * DreadWingKnight raises his hand for the tracker thing
[00:59:03] <swolchok> TheSHAD0W: ack! thanks for posting that link
[01:03:36] <swolchok> is Tribler search actually robust? torrentfreak says they're "researchers" but they have a lot of wiki pages and few papers
[01:07:05] <swolchok> reading http://pds.twi.tudelft.nl/reports/2008/PDS-2008-004.pdf , concerned about their use of PKI; non-repudiability is a *problem* in the usual bittorrent context
[01:19:12] <swolchok> guess it's not a big deal since it's just non-repudiability of who moderated what
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[04:19:48] <TheSHAD0W> http://friendsofirony.com/2010/01/09/delicious-torture/
[04:19:57] <TheSHAD0W> Er, sorry, wrong window.
[04:20:00] <TheSHAD0W> But enjoy anyway.
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[19:30:13] <DWKnight> time to have some fun with php
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[20:40:14] <_rafi_> mmm.... php fun... yummy ...
[20:43:40] <The_8472> <DWKnight> time to have some fun with php <- that's like saying "time to munch crushed glass"
[20:46:41] <DWKnight> most of the time, yes
[20:46:54] <DWKnight> if you abuse it JUST right, it's like a girl that has wanted you for weeks
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[23:51:04] <Arney1> !list lol. just joking. Im looking for a client that gives me full control of piece download order/prioritization
[23:51:44] <Arney1> and preferably allows me to download from only one peer/prioritize it.
[23:51:55] <Switeck> wow, talk about raping the BitTorrent protocol...
[23:51:57] <The_8472> what you want is not bittorrent
[23:51:57] <Arney1> With built in spoofing abilities.
[23:52:09] <The_8472> troll is trolling
[23:52:13] <mpl> ever heard of ftp?
[23:52:19] <Arney1> yes...
[23:52:26] <Arney1> I host an ftp server.
[23:52:32] <Switeck> BitTorrent is designed to do exactly the opposite of what you're wanting.
[23:52:37] <Switeck> (for good reasons!)
[23:52:38] <mpl> so why don't you just use that?
[23:52:57] <Arney1> because I'm using a service that only uses bittorrent to distribute files
[23:53:04] <Switeck> There are ways to only connect to 1 peer
[23:53:13] <Arney1> and some files, such as very long uncompressed video...
[23:53:18] <Switeck> hint: block the rest
[23:53:20] <Arney1> would be better off downloaded in order.
[23:53:42] <Arney1> that could take awhile.
[23:54:08] <Arney1> Isn't there a rogue programmers/hackers torrent client outhere.. I don't mbind the terminal
[23:54:08] <Switeck> very long as in >20 GB?
[23:54:26] <The_8472> i suggest you try the "patience" feature, combine it with the "download ahead of time" aka "create a buffer" feature
[23:54:28] <Arney1> generally 2GB+... sometimes 8gb
[23:54:29] <The_8472> they work great
[23:54:30] <Switeck> You appear to be on a >3 mbit/sec download
[23:55:19] <Arney1> so no ultimate hackers client exists?
[23:55:56] <Nolar> no client supports such features, but if you can code, several offer such control at api levels
[23:56:08] <Arney1> Im talking about the soft Ice of bittorrent, the cheat engine of games, the net stumbler of wifi
[23:56:35] <Arney1> I would have expected this channel to know of such a client.
[23:56:44] <Arney1> I've been litterally waiting years for it.
[23:56:53] <Switeck> why?
[23:57:03] <Switeck> you do know that sequential downloading = slower downloading
[23:57:08] <Switeck> often MUCH slower!
[23:57:09] <Arney1> Well, it started with Rev3
[23:57:18] <Nolar> such a client doesnt exist
[23:57:52] <Arney1> it won't matter if I can watch a 2 hour show while it downloads... instead of waiting 30 minutes and then watching it for 2 hours
[23:58:10] <Switeck> ><
[23:58:32] <Arney1> so sad that rev3 stopped their torrent streams
[23:58:34] <Switeck> you do realize this may doom marginal torrents?
[23:58:42] <Arney1> not technically streams, you get what I mean
[23:58:59] <Arney1> marginal?
[23:59:04] <Arney1> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MARGINAL
[23:59:07] <Switeck> torrents with few seeds
[23:59:14] <The_8472> i, again, suggest you try the "patience" feature
[23:59:33] <Arney1> paitience is a missing feature in my genome





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