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[01:01:12] <alus> The_8472: Firon says it was a config problem, and it's fixed now
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[01:25:32] <The_8472> oki, thx.
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[01:59:24] <BentMyWookie> can someone enlighten me on what -NP0201- is?
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[02:00:18] <chelz> BentMyWookie: "Clients which have been seen in the wild and need to be identified: "
[02:00:36] <BentMyWookie> which is why i ask ;)
[02:00:38] <DWKnight> http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification#Tracker_HTTP.2FHTTPS_Protocol
[02:00:45] <DWKnight> as in even we don't know yet
[02:00:58] <chelz> http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification#peer_id
[02:01:02] <chelz> ah
[02:01:22] <BentMyWookie> those aren't always up-to-date, which is why i'm posting here
[02:01:32] <BentMyWookie> but fair enough
[02:01:58] <chelz> i'm thinking it's some random custom client whose author decided, for whatever reason, to set a custom peer_id
[02:02:24] <BentMyWookie> but how many can be out there that a bunch see it?
[02:03:02] <DeHackEd> !math 1 gigabyte / (5 kilobytes/second)
[02:03:05] <BitTorrentBot> 1 gigabyte / (5 kilobytes/second) = 2 days + 7 hours + 33 minutes + 20 seconds
[02:03:20] <Nolar> http://azureus.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/azureus/azureus2/com/aelitis/azureus/core/peermanager/utils/BTPeerIDByteDecoderDefinitions.java?revision=HEAD&view=markup
[02:03:43] <Nolar> unknown :(
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[02:04:09] <BentMyWookie> for some reason i was using http://azureus.cvs.sourceforge.net/azureus/azureus2/com/aelitis/azureus/core/peermanager/utils/BTPeerIDByteDecoder.java?view=markup for reference
[02:05:43] <Nolar> that's the 'runtime'
[02:57:36] <alus> !math 1 petabyte / (1 byte/second)
[02:57:37] <BitTorrentBot> 1 petabyte / (1 byte/second) = 31688764.6 years
[02:58:03] <alus> !math 1 terabyte / (14.4 kilobits/second)
[02:58:05] <BitTorrentBot> 1 terabyte / (14.4 kilobits/second) = 17.605 years
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[02:58:26] <alus> !math 1 terabyte / (14.4 kibibits/second)
[02:58:27] <BitTorrentBot> 1 terabyte / (14.4 kibibits/second) = 17.192 years
[02:58:37] <alus> BitTorrentBot: impressive
[02:58:51] <NanoSHAD0W> LOL
[03:00:50] <alus> !math 1 terabyte / (12 megabits/second)
[03:00:52] <BitTorrentBot> 1 terabyte / (12 megabits/second) = 1 weeks + 17 hours + 11 minutes + 6.66666700004 seconds
[03:01:08] <alus> that level of precision is a bit much
[03:01:23] <alus> also "1 weeks" instead of "week"
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[03:24:44] <chelz> for how long after a usual announce from a client does the tracker tell other peers about that client?
[03:25:25] <chelz> i think it's all serverside so the tracker would decide. i'm not sure if something like this is supposed to be in an official spec.
[03:28:12] <Nolar> until the client "times out"
[03:28:42] <Nolar> it's server specific, but something at or above (or 2x) the announce interval
[03:35:26] <chelz> ah, so i can generally assume that the client will be reported by the tracker at least for the announce interval amount of time?
[03:36:45] <Nolar> i would hope so, otherwise running clients would be timing out prematurely
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[04:24:15] <chelz> yeah hmm
[04:24:31] <chelz> i guess i could dig through the src of tbdev, gazelle and opentracker
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[04:51:50] <The_8472> <chelz> ah, so i can generally assume that the client will be reported by the tracker at least for the announce interval amount of time? <- yes
[04:52:06] <The_8472> + some margin for error
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[23:43:42] <TheSHAD0W> http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrents-future-decentralized-search-and-hosting-100109/
[23:44:04] <TheSHAD0W> I think...
[23:44:14] <TheSHAD0W> We need to fork BitTorrent.  Entirely.
[23:44:58] <TheSHAD0W> Create a re-branded version, aim it at everyone who uses it for their own distribution, rather than w4r3z.
[23:48:23] <The_8472> decentralizing things per se isn't bad, after all it reduces the infrastructure a distributor has to maintain
[23:48:44] <The_8472> but it should be designed to suit those needs. such as decentralized feeds instead of searching
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