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[00:01:39] <ggt> ok..think I found the error now :)
[00:01:51] <Switeck> I spent many hours troubleshooting terrible results in uTorrent because of ComCast
[00:02:00] <Switeck> ggt, what was it?
[00:03:38] <ggt> ah..hm not sure now
[00:04:16] <ggt> anyway, I had this freeware app "freemeter" running (.net app) which montior bandwidth usage..and stopping that program seemed to improve things
[00:07:46] <ggt> Switeck:what the solution to your problem?
[00:08:32] <ggt> I'm still not 100% sure it was that app. Because it went slow again..And shutting down firewall speeded things up..so..maybe my connection is to fast to handle
[00:08:40] <Switeck> ComCast was the cause, they stopped RST-killing BitTorrent connections constantly by the end of Dec 2008
[00:08:55] <ggt> ah, I see. Too bd
[00:08:58] <ggt> bad
[00:09:01] <Switeck> note: they still have that capability
[00:09:10] <Switeck> and I am not sure they don't use it to small degree
[00:10:44] <ggt> nooooooooooooooo
[00:10:56] <ggt> its not working. :((
[00:11:16] <ggt> I GIVE UP. I flashed the router. Turned firewall off..But it slows up again..
[00:11:36] <K`Tetch> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121690908 - so much wrong...
[00:15:34] <Switeck> did you try removing the firewall entire by uninstalling and using Windows firewall? (just to test)
[00:16:01] <ggt> Switeck:I killed the software yes. Didn't uninstall
[00:16:13] <ggt> K`Tetch:whats wrong?
[00:17:21] <ggt> 10sec after closing bt, browsing works again.
[00:17:36] <ggt> ah well..been a few days now. Have to let this go
[00:17:41] <ggt> hehe
[00:17:51] <Switeck> you using uTP connections, Teredo/IPv6 connections, or udp trackers?
[00:18:23] <ggt> Switeck:its not bittorrent. Had same behaviour with emule too
[00:18:54] <Switeck> teredo connections would be 'called' by uTorrent and could seem like uTorrent is causing browser lag because of it
[00:19:51] <ggt> well, why should that cause browser lag?
[00:20:09] <Switeck> It just does
[00:21:00] <ggt> does it have anything to do with the browser?
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[00:25:17] <Switeck> no
[00:32:34] <ggt> I wonder if this browser slowdown would affect other users connected to the router?
[00:33:08] <ggt> probably
[00:33:19] <Switeck> depends
[00:33:33] <Switeck> if the networking issue is entirely internal to your computer, no
[00:34:25] <ggt> maybe I'll boot up vista and see if that helps
[00:35:15] <The_8472> do you have a 2nd computer/laptop? if so... just test it
[00:36:58] <ggt> no. I have to open up the laptop and replace disks..so not so easy
[00:37:20] <ggt> plus I prob forgotten pw on vista by now..
[00:37:45] <ggt> couldn't get to like that os
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[01:49:26] <TheSHAD0W> The_8472: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l_jckuHFSc
[01:54:27] <The_8472> stupid idea. as if people never heard of acid rain
[01:54:48] <TheSHAD0W> ...
[01:55:19] <TheSHAD0W> For someone expounding global warming, maybe you ought to study meteorology s'more.
[01:55:46] <The_8472> yesyes, stratosphere and all
[01:55:58] <The_8472> but it's not as if they're perfectly isolated
[01:56:43] <TheSHAD0W> It would filter down, but slowly.  Also, the amount they're talking about really isn't that large.
[01:58:48] <The_8472> another issue is the engineering aspect, you can't just put hoses on balloons into the stratosphere. the weight of a 60km long hose means a) you need veeeeeery big balloons b) they'd tear themselves apart under their own weight
[01:58:57] <The_8472> basically the problems of a space elevator in small
[01:59:37] <TheSHAD0W> Well, they say they've "engineered it"; I'm assuming that means they've calculated all that and figured out how to make it work.
[01:59:50] <The_8472> but anyway, if it's all safe and sound, fine do it... after you have shown some peer-revied proof that it IS safe and sound
[02:00:02] <The_8472> +w
[02:00:25] <TheSHAD0W> 9_9
[02:00:38] <The_8472> just because some microsoft guy on youtube claims it works doesn't mean i even have to think of it
[02:00:47] <The_8472> if he's so convinced of it he can do better than that
[02:01:32] <The_8472> sec, let me upload my video on particle physics, i've discovered the higges boson hiding under my bed
[02:01:36] <The_8472> seriously
[02:01:45] <The_8472> better sources please ^^
[02:01:56] <The_8472> btw, i am aware of various geoengineering plans
[02:02:24] <The_8472> but the _serious_ research put into those so far has proven either inconclusive or turned out negative side effects
[02:02:29] <TheSHAD0W> I'm not saying the guy's plan is a good idea...  I was rolling my eyes at your "peer-reviewed proof".
[02:02:32] <The_8472> e.g. fertilizing the oceans with iron
[02:02:59] <TheSHAD0W> Yeah, it required research, not peer review.
[02:03:13] <TheSHAD0W> A bunch of people pontificating on something doesn't make it good.
[02:03:25] <The_8472> TheSHAD0W, what's the issue with it? it's the best system we have. there's so much crap out there that superficially sounds reasonable. unless you have experts review it you should use a 3m pole to poke at it
[02:04:10] <The_8472> no, i didn't say it makes it good. it makes it worth a consideration
[02:04:57] <TheSHAD0W> Well, look at the iron fertilization idea.  A lot of people poo-poo'd it.  Some didn't, and funded the experiment.
[02:05:18] <TheSHAD0W> But solely on the basis of peer-review, it never would've reached the experimental stage.
[02:07:02] <The_8472> huh? peer review only looks for methological correcness and vets things for errors obvious to an expert of the field. there are even some peer-reviewed MOND theories out there. that doesn't mean anyone means they're correct
[02:07:17] <The_8472> it just means they're not assembled by total frauds ^^
[02:08:46] <TheSHAD0W> In other news...
[02:08:49] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87443/study-predicts-increase-in-attacks-from-p2p-networks/
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[02:10:29] <The_8472> hehe, isn't like 80%+ of the moved data video?
[02:10:51] <The_8472> i mean... if you are looking for a video and download an .exe something should raise a red flag...
[02:11:01] <The_8472> but then again... users are dumb...
[02:22:10] <TheSHAD0W> Keep getting new attacks.
[02:22:25] <TheSHAD0W> I've seen videos released that require a special codec - that contains malware.
[02:23:49] <The_8472> well, yeah. the best thing i've seen so far is a video that when you play it claims you need a special player to play it
[02:23:58] <The_8472> but when you're thinking about it... it's already playing
[02:24:06] <The_8472> and yet, people fall for it
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[04:45:59] * TheSHAD0W thinks Google is out-Apple-ing Apple
[04:46:04] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/leaked-google-nexus-one-phone-video
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[15:01:34] <TheSHAD0W> http://xkcd.com/679/
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[17:44:17] <_Deco_> Howdy
[17:44:34] <_Deco_> I've been trying to relocate some active torrent downloads to a new directory
[17:45:02] <_Deco_> But it only supports absolute directories such as "C:\Torrents\in_progress"
[17:45:20] <_Deco_> I want to use it on a portable harddrive, and want to relocate them to an absolute directory:
[17:45:25] <_Deco_> "..\in_progress"
[17:45:52] <_Deco_> I've tried editting resume.dat, and managed to figure out that alot of things are stored like "(LENGTH):DATA"
[17:46:07] <_Deco_> But whenever I edit it.... BitTorrent doesn't load it (I guess it's invalid)
[17:46:21] <_Deco_> Can I please have some help? :(
[17:47:14] <_Deco_> Does anyone know what format the resume.dat file is in?
[17:49:29] <_Deco_> Hello?
[17:50:06] <_Deco_> Are all 52 users idling? :(
[17:52:26] <Andrius> it's probably bencoded, if you're talking about bittorrent/utorrent
[17:52:41] <_Deco_> Oh, yes... the BitTorrent client
[17:52:44] <_Deco_> Forgot to mention that
[17:54:00] <Andrius> you can use this, to edit bendoded files: http://sites.google.com/site/ultimasites/bencode-editor
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[17:54:14] <_Deco_> Just finished downloading it :P
[17:54:18] <_Deco_> Thank you veeerrry much
[17:54:38] <_Deco_> :D
[17:57:58] <_Deco_> :O
[17:58:01] <_Deco_> Worked! :D
[17:58:03] <_Deco_> Thank you!
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[20:38:11] <GTHK> Whatcha using to edit?
[20:38:26] <GTHK> Bleh, ignore that, forgot I'm scrolled up reading old messages XP
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[20:43:15] <ggt> Hi, when we stop sharing files in bittorrent, do we get "punished" for this, eg by getting slower downloads on other torrents?
[20:44:26] <ggt> Also I was wondering if its possible to make bittorrent client start next "stopped" download once another one has completed?
[20:44:55] <ggt> btw thx for help yestarday. everything is now running 100% :))
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[22:37:29] <alus> ggt: no. bittorrent does not share information across swarms
[22:38:13] <alus> ggt: if you use the Queueing settings in BT 6, you can tell it how many torrents to run. torrent's in the "Queued
[22:38:27] <alus> " state will start when another one has completed
[22:38:45] <_rafi_> (he's out alus ...  )
[22:38:57] <alus> oh ffs
[22:39:02] <_rafi_> ...
[22:39:38] <K`Tetch> lol
[22:39:47] <K`Tetch> yeah, he quit an hour ago
[22:40:11] <_rafi_> well, alus probably just woke up...
[22:40:33] <alus> his nick is so easy to type I didn't try to auto-complete, which usually indicates the person is offline
[22:41:04] <_rafi_> always excuses... :P
[22:52:17] <_rafi_> just curious (& bugging...): alus, are you planning to fix the overhead overflowing the UL limit (@ calc_oberhead = true) in the 2.0 final ?
[22:54:06] <kjetilho> "alus" means "beer" in Latvian.  is that a coincidence?
[22:54:39] <_rafi_> we should ask alus ... ;)
[23:04:33] <alus> _rafi_: I wasn't aware there was a problem.
[23:07:20] <_rafi_> there is.
[23:07:22] <_rafi_> [21:29] <Ultima> [14:18:12] <&Ultima> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=442197#p442197 <-- Firon said that it was being fixed, but the fix was buggy, so it got rolled back
[23:07:49] <_rafi_> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=442633#p442633
[23:10:25] <alus> let's take this over to #utorrent
[23:11:35] <andar2> there is a utorrent channel on freenode?
[23:11:57] <chelz> not on freenode it seems
[23:12:34] <chelz> irc.p2p-network.net
[23:13:22] <andar2> yea, i was going to say it should probably be on nonfreenode.net or something
[23:18:24] <K`Tetch> its actually at irc.utorrent.com
[23:18:46] <K`Tetch> the channel used to be here, years ago, but was moved at freenode's request
[23:19:32] <Andrius> kjetilho, it's a coincidence
[23:19:40] <Andrius> K`Tetch, why didn't freenode like the channel?
[23:26:25] <chelz> because it's not open source i'm guessing
[23:30:55] <K`Tetch> yeah
[23:31:06] <K`Tetch> or rather, because it's specifically closed source
[23:31:11] <K`Tetch> plus the implications of filesharing
[23:31:28] <K`Tetch> the opensourceness is what saves the other chans
[23:31:29] <andar2> implications?
[23:31:45] <andar2> nothing wrong with sharing
[23:32:01] <chelz> haha
[23:32:48] <chelz> yeah actually, there are hardly any channels for filesharing clients on freenode
[23:32:51] <K`Tetch> "Off-Topic Use
[23:32:51] <K`Tetch> Unlawful activities and their related support activities are considered off-topic, as are inappropriate advertising, heavy media file trading, gaming and proprietary game software modding, warez, hax0r activity, porn and various forms of antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to) political, racial, ethnic, religious or gender-related invective. Off-topic activity may result in users being barred from the network.
[23:32:51] <K`Tetch> "
[23:33:11] <K`Tetch> but utorrent isn't open source, so...
[23:33:12] <andar2> K`Tetch, what does that have to do with bittorrent clients?
[23:33:26] <DeHackEd> off-topic has been lumped into unlawful?
[23:33:44] <andar2> no, unlawful is offtopic
[23:34:19] <K`Tetch> I've no ida - they also considered the USPP channel offtopic
[23:34:23] <DeHackEd> and the entirety of off-topic is grounds fo ra banning?
[23:34:25] <K`Tetch> so we moved to our own server
[23:34:29] <andar2> uspp?
[23:34:32] <K`Tetch> us pirate party
[23:34:44] <andar2> that's political
[23:34:52] <K`Tetch> this was 3-4 eyars ago
[23:35:26] <K`Tetch> on-topic use #4 - Governmental Entity. Coordination, support, discussion or contact channels run by local, national or international governmental entities are considered to be on-topic. Don't forget to register your group.
[23:35:39] <K`Tetch> USPP is a national 'governmental entity'
[23:36:12] <K`Tetch> in that it's a registered national political committee
[23:36:20] <andar2> that's probably not the condition it's failing though
[23:36:40] <andar2> if this governmental entity was supporting a free software project, then that would be fine
[23:36:50] <K`Tetch> policies, and the people that enforce them change over time
[23:36:51] <andar2> if it's there for purely politic discussions, then that is off-topic for freenode
[23:37:18] <K`Tetch> the current uspp chair has been pushing to bring it back here, and was accepted by the freenode admins
[23:37:29] <K`Tetch> although the members want to stay on the server run by one of the members
[23:37:53] <andar2> heh
[23:38:03] <chelz> wow politics
[23:38:12] <chelz> i didn't know the pirate party was around for so long
[23:38:15] <K`Tetch> we have better cloaks, the servers are very stable, and we always have the network admin handy
[23:38:25] <K`Tetch> sweden started jan1st 06
[23:38:32] <andar2> yea, freenode has been shit for stability lately
[23:38:39] <K`Tetch> us and many others started june/july 06 with the piratebay raid
[23:39:07] <chelz> ah, i heard about it from the stuff on torrentfreak mostly
[23:39:17] <K`Tetch> (I was us party chair may07-september08, then international chair from september 08 to july 09)
[23:39:35] <K`Tetch> you've probably heard some quotes from me then
[23:39:49] <K`Tetch> although less now, since i work for TF
[23:40:07] <K`Tetch> but, time to go buy shit we don't need, with money we don't have
[23:40:10] <K`Tetch> gotta love christmas
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