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[01:16:57] <TheSHAD0W> Switeck:
[01:16:58] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWJjsVitHhQ
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[12:53:15] <FleetAdmiral> !ist gay
[12:53:21] <FleetAdmiral> !list
[12:53:21] <BitTorrentBot> Read the /topic. No file sharing allowed.
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[13:53:15] <The_8472> http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/21/design-for-pencil-se.html <- i want one, who volunteers?
[14:18:00] <mpl> nice.
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[16:21:37] <ChoyKloun> sup guys
[16:44:15] <ChoyKloun> fuck
[16:44:21] <ChoyKloun> we have to hire 20 employees within 1month
[16:44:25] <ChoyKloun> and setup a 24/7 callcenter
[16:44:55] <ChoyKloun> and tomorrow i have an employment interview with a prospective new chief tech guy
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[16:53:37] <mpl> ChoyKloun: hiring 20 competent employees may be more work than firing 20, but it's still more pleasant, don't you think? ;)
[16:55:04] <ChoyKloun> hahahaha
[16:55:11] <ChoyKloun> firing 20 incompetent employees would be fun as hell
[16:55:21] <ChoyKloun> "the door is there. walk through it. dont come back"
[16:55:29] <ChoyKloun> "here's your paycheck *tears it up in front of the guy*
[16:55:35] <ChoyKloun> but we have no incompetent employees
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[20:12:16] <ggt> Is it possible to drop slow connections (in mytorrent)?
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[21:26:21] <ggt> Anyone here?
[21:27:05] <DWKnight> if it's about your question earlier, here's a counter
[21:27:18] <DWKnight> how do you know the connections you get won't be worse than the ones you already have?
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[21:28:48] <ggt> ehr so is it now way to configure this? Eg drop clients that are below x kb/s?
[21:29:01] <ggt> s/now/no/
[21:29:27] <ggt> DWKnight : and what do you mean "counter"?
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[21:29:45] <Switeck> counter-example
[21:29:49] <DWKnight> you'd cause enough of a performance hit with connection churn if you used that kind of metric that it wouldn't be worth it even if you could
[21:30:17] <ggt> ok. I've also got another problem..
[21:30:28] <Switeck> disconnect "inactive" peers/seeds after x minutes?
[21:30:43] <Switeck> where "inactive" can mean 0 DL/UL or very low DL/UL
[21:30:47] <DWKnight> yay, deja-vu
[21:31:01] <ggt> Switeck:yeah, got that on minimal setting already
[21:31:10] <Switeck> then that should be enough
[21:31:28] <DWKnight> below a certain threshold, the client will ignore you
[21:31:42] <ggt> My biggest problem now is when using bittorrent browings is almost impossible (to slow). Any ideas?
[21:31:58] <ggt> browsing*
[21:31:59] <Switeck> simple, generate less bandwidth and overheads in your BitTorrent program
[21:32:16] <Switeck> Do you have hostile software on your comptuer?
[21:32:16] <ggt> No, its not bandwidth related
[21:32:34] <Switeck> or are using a Belkin, USB, or wireless connection from your computer to the network?
[21:32:35] <ggt> At once I disconnect from bittorrent browsing works 100%
[21:32:51] <ggt> Switeck:no, linksys
[21:32:51] <Switeck> bandwidth isn't the only way you can have overheads
[21:33:03] <Switeck> default linksys firmware is terrible
[21:33:16] <Switeck> so bad that under rigorous conditions it cannot even maintain 70 connections.
[21:33:55] <Switeck> some of their newer routers are better...but still unreliable :(
[21:34:01] <ggt> wrt54g is the router? Is it crap?
[21:34:14] <Switeck> that one's highly variable depending on exact version
[21:34:20] <Switeck> but it's one of the very worst
[21:34:30] <ggt> v2.2
[21:34:35] <Switeck> you simply must replace its firmware with 3rd party software or it's rotten
[21:34:36] <Mazon> throw on dd-wrt and be over with it
[21:34:50] <Switeck> Mazon, that may only be able to use dd-wrt micro
[21:35:05] <ggt> Switeck:well, I've used this router on another network without problems..
[21:35:08] <Mazon> I have a WRT-54GL with DD-WRT and it just works
[21:35:08] <DWKnight> the g v2?
[21:35:09] <Switeck> because it has so very little ram and flash memory (which constantly overloads using default firmware)
[21:35:23] <DWKnight> it's the v5 that got castrated
[21:35:28] <DWKnight> v1-4 are not
[21:36:07] <ggt> Even when using only max 20 global connections in bittorrent browsing is slow..
[21:36:22] <ggt> very annoying
[21:36:31] <Switeck> you sure it's 20?
[21:36:36] <ggt> yes
[21:36:40] <Switeck> do you have DHT, Local Peer Discovery, Resolve IPs enabled?
[21:36:45] <Switeck> Or teredo/IPv6?
[21:36:59] <ggt> Switeck:turned all that off
[21:37:11] <Switeck> then it's your other settings XD
[21:37:20] <Switeck> Speed Guide CTRL+G, what's there?
[21:37:42] <ggt> I got good connection when bittorrent is off. prob 10Mbit
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[21:38:18] <ggt> I see many people have this problem, but there never seems to be any solutions (in forums etc)..
[21:38:39] <ggt> I guess it must be router related? I suspect the adsl modem maybe?
[21:38:44] <DWKnight> because people refuse to accept the steps given to troubleshoot it
[21:39:25] <ggt> I've tried most of what is mentioned in first post here
[21:39:26] <ggt> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/943600.html
[21:39:51] <DWKnight> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=15992 <--
[21:40:13] <Switeck> what the hell?
[21:40:21] <Switeck> you used xx/10mbit in Speed Guide?!
[21:41:22] <ggt> Well, I got up/down speeds to well below actual speeds. Still browsing is slow
[21:41:48] <ggt> DWKnight:that link described most of the things mentioned in my link
[21:42:02] <Switeck> You're on really crappy ADSL, right?
[21:42:18] <ggt> No, adsl2. Good connection
[21:42:23] <Switeck> no, bad
[21:42:34] <ggt> What do you mean?
[21:42:34] <Switeck> speed tests?
[21:42:43] <Switeck> I mean you don't realize how bad it is.
[21:42:49] <ggt> 10mbit, I told you
[21:43:05] <ggt> Is 10mbit bad? explain
[21:43:10] <Switeck> extremely doubtful for download, and *IMPOSSIBLE* for upload
[21:43:15] <Switeck> so you really don't know what you have.
[21:43:32] <ggt> what?
[21:43:51] <Switeck> speed test it
[21:44:02] <Switeck> speedguide.net for one
[21:44:10] <ggt> I have.
[21:44:17] <Switeck> and whatever test website your ISP recommends for another
[21:44:20] <ggt> Its over 10mbit. I TOLD YOU!!
[21:44:20] <Switeck> post results then XD
[21:44:31] <Switeck> not on *UPLOAD* it isn't!
[21:44:42] <ggt> upload..its around 50KB/s
[21:44:50] <ggt> ehr..500 that is
[21:44:56] <Switeck> so, that's 1-TWENTIETH the speed
[21:45:32] <ggt> so any ideas?
[21:45:45] <Switeck> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=58404
[21:45:52] <Switeck> 512 kbit/sec upload settings...or LOWER!
[21:46:15] <Switeck> Did you disable Resolve IPs?
[21:46:24] <Switeck> (this can help reduce browser lag)
[21:46:57] <ggt> Switeck:I got 5KB/s upload.
[21:47:08] <ggt> Switeck:yes, disabled that
[21:47:42] <DWKnight> stop all torrents and run a speed test at http://speedtest.net
[21:47:47] <DWKnight> and link the results image here
[21:47:57] <ggt> that is I've configured bittorrent with 5KB/s upload
[21:48:00] <ggt> ok. 1 sec
[21:48:05] <Switeck> did you likewise reduce max torrents, connections, and upload slots proportionally (to match the 5 KB/sec upload)?
[21:49:09] <ggt> yes, MAX 20 global conncecions
[21:49:37] <Switeck> upload slots = 1?
[21:49:51] <Switeck> limited to 1 torrent at a time?
[21:51:12] <ggt> 13.18MB/s (DL) and 0.02 Mb/s (UL)
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[21:51:34] <Switeck> 0.02 megabit/sec upload?! O.O
[21:51:36] <DWKnight> [4:57:46pm] <DWKnight> and link the results image here <--
[21:52:22] <ggt> heh..you don't believe me?
[21:52:24] <ggt> http://www.speedtest.net/result/660327468.png
[21:52:35] <ggt> Don't know why I get such low upload speed right now
[21:53:01] <Switeck> leaking?
[21:53:11] <ggt> ok, I might have something else running..
[21:53:13] <Andrius> all I can say: how the hell does it even manage to get 13Mb/s with such upload?
[21:53:13] <Switeck> wireless being "borrowed" by neighbors? viruses/trojans?
[21:53:44] <ggt> No
[21:54:20] <ggt> I see in the log in the router who is connected
[21:54:28] <Switeck> good
[21:54:36] <Switeck> the perhaps you can also find the upload "leak"
[21:54:58] <ggt> yeah, hehe..bittorrent was running ..
[21:55:19] <ggt> I will retest
[21:55:52] <ggt> Any ideas what is the best firmware for wrt54g router?
[21:56:07] <Switeck> tomato or dd-wrt
[21:56:24] <Switeck> either one (latest version of course) is much better than what it currently has
[21:56:43] <ggt> Are they hard to configure? Will the router work after upgrading if no further configuration is made?
[21:56:43] <Switeck> but you'll NEED to tweak them, especially for max connection limit (set high!) and TCP/UDP timeouts.
[21:56:52] <Switeck> not hard, just time-consuming
[21:57:06] <Switeck> no, you'll need to configure it to suit your network.
[21:57:28] <ggt> ok. Don't think that is an option for me.
[21:57:48] <DWKnight> the interface is intuitive
[21:57:51] <Switeck> the router would probably default to a different ip range.
[21:57:56] <ggt> heh, I got same results in speed test
[21:58:13] <ggt> Is that speed test reliable?
[21:58:21] <Switeck> probably
[21:58:22] <ggt> I'm using opera browser
[21:58:32] <Switeck> even still...
[21:58:46] <Switeck> then again opera has a bittorrent plugin now...I hope you're not using that!
[21:58:53] <ggt> no.
[21:59:08] <ggt> I've tried bittorrent, mytorrent and vuze
[21:59:18] <Switeck> so you can't find anything that might be killing your upload speed?
[21:59:27] <Switeck> are you using a wireless link to the router?
[22:00:00] <ggt> Tried in another test . 42 kbit/s upload. Don't know what is going on
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[22:00:50] <ggt> Maybe the firewall is causing problems?
[22:01:24] <Switeck> at this point, we cannot rule it out.
[22:01:33] <Switeck> Zone Alarm?
[22:01:56] <ggt> sunbelt personal firewall
[22:02:12] <Switeck> even worse would be if you had AV software that also has a firewall...
[22:02:17] <ggt> yes, after disabling firewall i got 584 kbit/s upload
[22:02:26] <ggt> wtf
[22:03:30] <DWKnight> what firewall?
[22:03:38] <ggt> see above
[22:03:52] <ggt> Sunbelt Personal Firewall 4
[22:04:12] <ggt> Maybe zonealarm is better? But its so damn annoying to use
[22:04:14] 
[22:04:17] <ggt> and configure
[22:04:39] <Switeck> 8472, I've seen 'fast' and 'slow' for downloading pieces in uTorrent
[22:04:46] <ggt> ok..after enabling firewall again UL speed is correct again
[22:04:47] <DWKnight> [5:14:12pm] <ggt> Maybe zonealarm is better? <-- fuck no
[22:04:52] <ggt> ok
[22:05:05] <ggt> DWKnight:what firewall do you use+
[22:05:07] <ggt> ?
[22:05:11] <DWKnight> the one built into my router
[22:05:35] <ggt> DWKnight:hm, you can live with that? Its not safe IMO
[22:05:53] <The_8472> Switeck, that's not it
[22:06:12] <DWKnight> by the time anything gets past my router, any software firewall on my system is useless anyway
[22:06:26] <Switeck> I'm only aware of uTorrent using HAVE ALL or HAVE NONE
[22:06:36] <ggt> DWKnight . how come?
[22:07:01] <ggt> Your not stopping any OUTGOING connections without software firewall..
[22:07:06] <ggt> ah well.
[22:07:12] <The_8472> hrrm, because the changelog says something about fast extensions, but i don't see it sending ALLOWED_FAST
[22:07:21] <DWKnight> because if there's something making unauthorized outgoing connections on my system
[22:07:43] <DWKnight> It can bypass any software firewall on my system one way or another
[22:08:14] <Switeck> especially the BHOs that use the web browser
[22:08:23] <The_8472> well, software firewalls are only good enough to prevent non-malicious but noisy programs from phoning home
[22:08:25] <Switeck> you allowed the web browser through your firewall, you're done
[22:08:26] <The_8472> that's it pretty much
[22:09:08] <ggt> Switeck:firewall will warn you when programs try to start other programs
[22:09:22] <ggt> eg a browser
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[22:09:46] <The_8472> huh?
[22:09:51] <ggt> Atleast sunbelt does this
[22:09:56] <Switeck> not if it's done via an exploit...
[22:10:03] <The_8472> so when explorer.exe starts firefox.exe it causes a warning?
[22:10:05] <The_8472> interesting
[22:10:27] <The_8472> you must be drowning in warning messages
[22:10:28] <ggt> The_8472:yes, first time it does this it creates an warning. We have to give it permission
[22:11:00] <ggt> Of course it can remeber the setting to next time if you prefer
[22:11:27] <The_8472> well, that way you only train users to click "yes" everytime
[22:11:36] <ggt> The_8472:any firewall without this feature I would consider USELESS
[22:12:11] <Switeck> so, ggt ...is web browsing no longer crippled?
[22:12:16] <The_8472> a much saner security policy would be for processes to inherit the permission to open sockets. so any process can open any other process. but only those who inherited the network access permission may actually do it
[22:12:53] <wolfric> anyone know where i might be able to get full documentation of bittorrent protocols for a torrent client project development
[22:13:34] <The_8472> bittorrent.org
[22:14:08] <The_8472> and some additional (although not official) information on http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification
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[22:14:30] <ggt> Switeck:I don't think its the firewall that was causing the problem, because I'm sure I had it turned off while trying various solutions earlier.
[22:14:34] <ggt> But..heh..maybe
[22:14:48] <ggt> Trying now..
[22:15:07] <wolfric> the_8472:thanks
[22:15:11] <The_8472> and the "full documentation" only exists in the heads of BT devs. rationales for many important things hidden in subclauses aren't given at all, but they're still important ^^
[22:15:44] <Switeck> such as the cooldown retry rate for ips in the peer list?
[22:16:52] <ggt> No, browsing still slow.
[22:17:02] <The_8472> or such simple things as why dictionary keys should be sorte
[22:17:03] <The_8472> d
[22:18:39] <ggt> Could the ISP have configured some setting in the adsl modem to create this behaviour?
[22:19:16] <ggt> I'm getting good download speeds - just can't browse at same time, so I guess its not likely
[22:19:24] <ggt> I give up
[22:20:06] <The_8472> well, slow browsing usually is due to a congested upload or too many connections
[22:20:16] <The_8472> or in rare cases due to crappy routers
[22:20:43] <ggt> The_8472:well, with 100connections I get very good download speeds in bittorrent. But just can't browse
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[22:21:57] <The_8472> 100 connections should be ok, as long as they're not all active
[22:22:07] <ggt> I wish.
[22:22:46] <ggt> Its annoying having to wait 30-60 secs for web page to load each time
[22:23:07] <ggt> (or not loading at all - just "hanging")
[22:23:28] <ggt> I see 1 billion people have this problem. But not one solution. I find this weird.
[22:24:40] <ggt> anyway, thx for the attention
[22:25:43] <DWKnight> do you have the SPI firewall enabled in your router?
[22:25:59] <ggt> yes
[22:26:40] <ggt> I will try with 1 conncetion and see if that hangs
[22:26:43] <ggt> heh
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[22:27:22] <DWKnight> turn SPI the fuck off
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[22:28:26] <ggt> DWKnight:no, can't do that.
[22:28:39] <ggt> and even with 1 global conncetion browsing is slow
[22:29:07] <DWKnight> why can't you do it?
[22:29:15] <DWKnight> because you refuse to accept that it may be the cause of your problems?
[22:29:20] <ggt> Well, I want that security.
[22:29:37] <DWKnight> so you want security by crippling your hardware?
[22:30:18] <ggt> I don't think its the firwall in wrt54g that is causing the problems becasue as mentioned I've used it before on another network without problems
[22:30:38] <Switeck> completely uninstall the failing software firewall too
[22:31:05] <ggt> Switeck:heh, your crazy
[22:31:09] <ggt> I'll NEVER do that.
[22:31:14] <The_8472> try lowering your upload and download speed limits and see if that makes any difference
[22:31:20] <DWKnight> then you'll never get your problem solved
[22:31:24] <Switeck> use windows firewall instead then
[22:31:46] <ggt> thats crap
[22:32:02] <alus> crap how?
[22:32:10] <Switeck> it's crap that WORKS, which is more than can be said for what you have
[22:32:11] <The_8472> your software firewall won't magically protect you from things that'll suddenly spring up the moment it's not there anymore
[22:32:19] <ggt> Its not the firewall. I turned of the firewall and the problems remains.
[22:32:25] <The_8472> it's not like new software is installing itself onto your system every second
[22:32:27] <DWKnight> turn off spi in the router
[22:32:41] <DWKnight> because it's wasting router resources providing no real protection
[22:32:55] <The_8472> anyway
[22:32:59] <The_8472> <The_8472> try lowering your upload and download speed limits and see if that makes any difference <-
[22:33:01] <ggt> DWKnight:ok. I can try it for fun.
[22:33:17] <DWKnight> it was one of the first things I turned off
[22:33:24] <DWKnight> caused 5 minute irc disconnects
[22:34:44] <ggt> DWKnight:i've turned on 100global connections in bt - and disabled firwall..lets see
[22:35:43] <ggt> no still slow
[22:36:22] <ggt> ok.turnig off software firewall also..
[22:37:25] <ggt> NO. Still slow
[22:38:06] <Switeck> kill it with fire
[22:38:22] <alus> The_8472: no, uT uses allowed fast messages, but does not send any
[22:38:53] <ggt> heh. I supsect some weird setting in the adsl2 modem is casuing this
[22:39:01] <alus> The_8472: we also use the new reject logic
[22:39:10] <The_8472> i see
[22:39:15] <alus> ggt: have you tried setting your rate limits very low?
[22:39:24] <alus> The_8472: sending allowed fast messages is on my todo
[22:39:51] <ggt> alus:rate limits?
[22:39:57] <ggt> Where is that setting?
[22:40:03] <alus> ggt: which client?
[22:40:17] <ggt> bittorrent at the moment
[22:40:27] <alus> BT 6?
[22:40:35] <The_8472> alus, good to hear
[22:40:36] <ggt> yes
[22:40:50] <ggt> v6.1.2
[22:41:02] <alus> ggt: go to Options > Setup Guide
[22:41:15] <alus> or maybe Speed Guide, I forget in BT 6
[22:41:22] <alus> anyway, pick the slowest connection you see there
[22:41:51] <alus> like Dial-up settings. see if that works for you. (you might get slow download, but webbrowsing should still work)
[22:42:00] <alus> if that works out fine, pick the next highest, etc
[22:42:14] <alus> see how high you can get without killing your webbrowsing
[22:42:18] <ggt> Do you mean upload/download speeds?
[22:42:31] <ggt> I got 1KB/s upload at thet moment
[22:42:57] <alus> limit your download too
[22:43:08] <Switeck> dial up is busted in speed guide
[22:43:15] <Switeck> 25 connections for 56k?
[22:43:34] <The_8472> dialup and bittorrent don't work well together anyway
[22:44:04] <Switeck> perhaps, but lots of connections on dial-up makes that even worse
[22:44:22] <The_8472> dht traffic will probably screw you more than the tcp overhead...
[22:44:24] <ggt> damn I spent too many hours on this. I see that it works better with lower amount of global connections.
[22:44:29] <The_8472> that alone is like 2-3KB/s ^^
[22:44:37] <alus> ok, when a dial-up user comes and complains, I'll consider fixing it ;)
[22:44:42] <Switeck> no dht of course
[22:44:50] <ggt> I guess I will just have to web surft when bt is off.
[22:45:13] <The_8472> and are there any dialup flatrates out there?
[22:45:21] <Switeck> most are
[22:45:35] <The_8472> flatrates arrived at the same time with dsl here
[22:45:49] <The_8472> so... idk anything about dialup billing these days
[22:46:28] <ggt> Btw, regarding my very first question - is it possible to drop clients that I download from that have below 10Kb/s?
[22:46:34] <Switeck> some might still limit you to <100% online all the time, but even 300+ hours per month is overkill
[22:46:48] <The_8472> no, it's not possible because that would screw up how bittorrent works
[22:46:51] <Switeck> not really
[22:47:03] <alus> ggt: BT will already drop the slowest peer periodically
[22:47:04] <The_8472> idle connections are part of the system
[22:47:08] <ggt> The_8472:I guess 3rd party software could do it.
[22:47:12] <Switeck> most won't give you 10 KB/sec, and neither do you!
[22:47:21] <ggt> alus:ok
[22:47:56] <Switeck> if you're only able to give out ~50 KB/sec... 10 KB/sec to 1 peer means you aren't uploading to many.
[22:48:33] <ggt> Switeck:i wish it was so
[22:48:47] <ggt> Then my problem would be solved.
[22:49:38] <ggt> soo..what software can terminate connections below certain limit? hm
[22:49:52] <Switeck> nothing really
[22:50:04] <The_8472> ...
[22:50:06] <alus> you could pretty easily write some
[22:50:07] <ggt> huh? sure
[22:50:21] <Switeck> disconnect them all, done XD
[22:50:29] <The_8472> just stop thinking about it, you don't understand how bittorrent works. doing what you want to do would make things slower, not faster
[22:50:39] <Switeck> I just told you, almost NOBODY will give you 10 KB/sec
[22:50:48] <ggt> The_8472:maybe
[22:51:26] <Switeck> you could connect to the fastest ADSL on the planet and get <10 KB/sec because they're uploading to others as well.
[22:52:17] <Switeck> almost everyone's playing the same game -- you don't get faster by cutting off intermittent download sources.
[22:53:13] <ggt> Switeck:I suspect you are correct.
[22:53:21] <ggt> hehe
[22:53:46] <Switeck> if most are connected to 40+ peers but only uploading to 4 at a time...sometimes you get nothing from them
[22:54:20] <Switeck> but if you're uploading quickly to them you're far more likely to get more and more often
[22:54:48] <ggt> Switeck:well, I would still upload to those with quick connections.
[22:55:08] <Switeck> at what?
[22:55:21] <Switeck> what's your average upload speed per upload slot?
[22:55:26] <ggt> wellm, whatever speed I decide..
[22:55:32] <Switeck> it needs to be >3 KB/sec for they'll even NOTICE you
[22:55:59] <ggt> Maybe I should just stick to dc++ (been a few years though)
[22:56:16] <Switeck> otherwise, they'll spend most of their upload on someone that feeds them decent DL speeds
[22:57:26] <Switeck> the faster the source, often the faster you have to upload to them to get their attention :P
[22:57:52] <ggt> maybe
[22:58:28] <ggt> I'm not familar with the details of how bt works. Cutting of a few clients with slow connections would still leave many others to choose from.
[22:59:36] <Switeck> it is often only your impression they are slow
[22:59:47] <Switeck> they could be extremely fast but ignoring you because you give little to them
[23:00:00] <ggt> ah ok. I see
[23:00:29] <Switeck> I had to upload >10 KB/sec to some peers to get their attention, but once I did they uploaded to me at >100 KB/sec
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[23:05:18] <ggt> I see the same problem with emule. Web browsing slows down while emule is running.
[23:06:43] <ggt> I think I will try upgrading firmware on router
[23:08:40] <ggt> thanks
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[23:09:12] <Switeck> "Lost-Cause" just left
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[23:47:36] <jim__> quick/stupid question: How do I form an HTTP GET request that will return a list of peers?
[23:53:49] <The_8472> charles, alus, erdgeist.... http://forum.bittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?pid=186#p186 <- you people should contribute ^^
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[23:54:19] <The_8472> jim__ http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification#Tracker_Request_Parameters
[23:54:37] <jim__> Aha! Thank you
[23:54:50] <K`Tetch> http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-to-compensate-throttled-bittorrent-users-091222/
[23:56:44] <The_8472> win!
[23:59:28] <Switeck> I bought a new router because I thought that was part of my ComCast problems
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