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[01:37:28] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/brazil_blackout/
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[01:47:55] <The_8472> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/11/blu-ray-discs-get-managed-copy-hardware-support-nonexistent.ars <- this is also amusing
[01:48:56] <The_8472> considering that i don't even own any blu ray discs (i have a drive though) and if i did i would make backups simply by using aacsdump
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[01:55:42] <TheSHAD0W> The MPAA knows in the long term its business model is doomed, so it has concentrated on holding actions, and has been pretty successful at it.
[01:56:05] <The_8472> causing lots of collateral damage in the process
[01:56:19] <TheSHAD0W> What do they care, so long as the cash still flows in?
[01:57:10] <The_8472> yeah, torches and pitchforks are virtual these days.. they don't kill you, only your reputation :/
[01:58:37] <DeHackEd> seen Steal This Movie ?
[01:58:47] <The_8472> no
[01:59:11] <The_8472> it would probably consist of 90% preaching to the choir
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[01:59:36] <DeHackEd> no, surprisingly. but "part 2" is the better one
[01:59:53] <DeHackEd> well, there is some preaching, but it's nowhere near that bad
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[02:10:01] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=116991
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[02:37:18] <bbelt16ag1> hey do i add  trackers to a   torrent file i am downloading?
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[02:38:07] <DeHackEd> no use
[02:40:22] <TheSHAD0W> In what prog?
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[02:43:14] <bbelt16ag1> transmission
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[03:10:28] <burris> down for maintenance!
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[13:14:28] <chelz> tpb added magnet links
[13:15:34] <alus> finally.
[13:16:14] <alus> with trackers! nice
[13:16:17] <chelz> rtorrent still doesn't have native support for them
[13:16:27] <alus> haha
[13:16:42] <chelz> yeah neither of the trackers are openbittorrent.. which might signify some of their intentions around all that selling
[13:17:15] <chelz> also no filesize
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[14:28:16] <pevangelista> hello guys!
[14:28:30] <pevangelista> Today I have a question about anti-snubbing
[14:29:20] <pevangelista> In the specification, it says that if the client does not download something for a minute from a connected peer, then he considers himself snubbed by it
[14:29:57] <pevangelista> Then he stops uploading to this peer except as an optimistic unchoke
[14:30:23] <pevangelista> So, how does this work? How this behavior helps with snubbing recovery?
[14:30:33] <The_8472> <pevangelista> In the specification, it says that if the client does not download something for a minute [while unchoked] from a connected peer, then he considers himself snubbed by it
[14:30:58] <The_8472> and it doesn't help with recovery, it just prevents wasting of unchokes on a peer that doesn't upload to you even if it unchokes you
[14:31:38] <pevangelista> I see... its a reinforcement of the tit-for-tat policy
[14:43:18] <pevangelista> I read here http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification that the anti-snubbing algorithm results in concurrent optmistic unchokes, and that confused me a lot
[14:44:15] <pevangelista> Thats why I asked about snubbing recovery, because it is mentioned that these concurrent optimistic unchokes makes the recovery faster
[14:45:28] <pevangelista> Actually, this statement is written in the article "Incentives Build Robustness in BitTorrent", from Bram Cohen
[14:45:39] <pevangelista> And I didn't understand that at all
[14:46:24] <The_8472> you do optimistic uncokes anyway
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[16:20:18] <pevangelista> Hey, I left for lunch, sorry
[16:20:46] <pevangelista> So, getting back to the discussion, the snubbed client will choke the snubbing peer, is that right?
[16:27:37] <The_8472> yup
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[17:18:46] <charles> anyone know if there's a PEX BEP floating out there?  Google alludes to a PEX BEP #11 at some point in the past
[17:26:13] <The_8472> it's basically a map of added, added6, dropped, dropped6, added.f, added6.f, dropped.f, dropped6.f
[17:26:44] <The_8472> all are byte-arrays
[17:26:57] <The_8472> .f are 1 byte flags corresponding to each list
[17:27:36] <The_8472> well, actually. no .f for dropped
[17:27:52] <The_8472> 6 bytes per peer for ipv4, 18 for ipv6
[17:27:54] <The_8472> that's it
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[18:44:17] <K`Tetch> sup sWETeck
[18:44:29] <Switeck> thanks for the info about this place
[18:44:39] <Switeck> might've been happier if I knew about this place sooner
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