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[08:50:42] <BetaDoctor> hi all ..
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[09:41:23] <TheNetrix> How easy is it to get caught?
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[14:32:50] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/01/new-version-of-bittorrent-heralds-a-new-age-of-uncongested-file/
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[16:40:58] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.customerssuck.com/board/showthread.php?t=55503
[16:41:16] <DWKnight> requires login
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[17:12:44] <TheSHAD0W> Doh.
[17:12:46] <TheSHAD0W> Sorry.
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[17:13:51] <TheSHAD0W> http://pastebin.ca/1651654
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[19:26:52] <TheSHAD0W> http://torrentfreak.com/utorrent-2-0-to-elimininate-the-need-for-isp-throttling-091031/ - yeah, riiight.
[19:31:06] <charles> ISPs aren't going to give up throttling
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[20:57:26] * TheSHAD0W is analyzing a 1MB torrent file
[20:57:46] <TheSHAD0W> 3900 files.
[20:57:51] <TheSHAD0W> 80 GB.
[20:58:18] <TheSHAD0W> And it's dead.  :-P
[20:59:28] <The_8472> oh, i have a nice torrent with about 30k files somewhere. i use it for performance testing
[21:00:03] <The_8472> there are basically 5 cases to optimize for: many torrents, many active torrents, many connections, many files, many pieces
[21:00:26] <TheSHAD0W> Large pieces.
[21:00:31] <TheSHAD0W> (Difficult.)
[21:00:52] <The_8472> hrrm, well.. i was speaking about memory/cpu performance optimization
[21:00:58] <The_8472> not the download speed performance
[21:01:04] <TheSHAD0W> Ah.
[21:03:08] <The_8472> and i'm almost done with my BEP32 implementation... well... at least with the code refactoring. after that comes fixing the exceptions and debugging
[21:04:24] <TheSHAD0W> > This is a very early draft, and not suitable for implementation. Yet.
[21:04:52] <The_8472> well, i'm implementing to test it. changes will be adopted as we go
[21:04:57] <TheSHAD0W> :-)
[21:05:25] <TheSHAD0W> Hum.
[21:05:54] <The_8472> http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/bittorrent/bep-dht-ipv6.html <- that version might be more up-to-date
[21:06:33] <The_8472> refactoring it is a pain. the entire DHT was laid out as a singleton
[21:06:36] <TheSHAD0W> "Compact" IPv6 node info - that's I hope 128 bits binary per IP?
[21:06:40] <The_8472> suddenly having 2 of them... wah
[21:06:57] <The_8472> 20 bytes sha1, 16 bytes ipv6, 2 bytes port
[21:07:03] <TheSHAD0W> Okay.
[21:07:05] <TheSHAD0W> Good.
[21:07:29] <TheSHAD0W> For a sec I was thinking it was using the "1234::56:78" thing.
[21:07:39] <The_8472> that would be insane
[21:07:43] <TheSHAD0W> Yup.
[21:08:00] <TheSHAD0W> It might result in some space savings now, but as it got more adopted...
[21:08:23] <The_8472> my IPv6 address is anything but short...
[21:08:33] <kjetilho> you could use 7 bits to specify where the :: is, and 7 bits for the total length :-p
[21:08:38] <The_8472> 2002:5936:acc1:1:29be:f1fa:5975:fe66
[21:09:06] <kjetilho> see, the 0001 could be compressed to just one bit
[21:09:09] <The_8472> only saves 3 chars. and i could just change my subnet prefix to fill that block too
[21:09:24] <mpl> heh that's fun, I used to work at jussieu and I didn't even know someone was working on that.
[21:11:12] <TheSHAD0W> Will the BT.org and Vuze v6DHT be all together then?
[21:11:46] <The_8472> no, we already have v6 support for quite a while now
[21:11:54] <TheSHAD0W> Oh.
[21:11:54] <The_8472> i'm just working on the mainline DHT plugin
[21:12:07] <TheSHAD0W> ...
[21:12:25] <The_8472> ^^
[21:12:39] <The_8472> which has one of the best mainline DHT implementations i dare to say!
[21:12:41] <TheSHAD0W> In that case, I'd sincerely recommend uTorrent et all simply use the Az DHT for IPv6 instead of creating yet another cloud.
[21:12:56] <TheSHAD0W> You *have* published a spec for your DHT, right?
[21:13:09] <The_8472> yeah... nooot really
[21:13:17] <TheSHAD0W> Then I wouldn't brag about it.  :-P
[21:13:19] <The_8472> partially
[21:13:36] <The_8472> <The_8472> which has one of the best mainline DHT implementations i dare to say!
[21:13:43] <The_8472> i was talking about the plugin
[21:13:48] <TheSHAD0W> Oh.
[21:13:58] <Nolar> mainline dht --> vuze dht is non trivial
[21:13:58] <TheSHAD0W> Well.
[21:14:28] <TheSHAD0W> You're just creating a closed/open battle then.
[21:14:35] <TheSHAD0W> Open your damned spec, I say!
[21:14:40] <The_8472> mainline DHT is completely bencoding based, vuze DHT is a binary format, similar to the xbt udp tracker protocol
[21:14:54] * TheSHAD0W shrugs
[21:14:59] <The_8472> and is incredibly more complex...
[21:15:10] <The_8472> 2 words: vivaldi coordinates and diversification
[21:15:46] <TheSHAD0W> It'd be really nice if you'd open it up though.
[21:16:07] <The_8472> i agree. but i'm not sure if even parg could write documentation for it... and he's maintaining it
[21:18:49] <Nolar> he did, a while back
[21:19:46] <The_8472> for some values of "a while" and "documentation"
[21:21:05] <The_8472> oh, extra fun part: the DHT also comes with UDP transfers and nat traversal
[21:22:10] <TheSHAD0W> We really ought not fragment the protocol.
[21:22:18] <TheSHAD0W> When clients cease to be interoperable...
[21:23:06] <Nolar> that ship sailed years ago
[21:23:45] <The_8472> twice even
[21:24:09] <The_8472> first the DHT, then the extension protocol
[21:26:41] <The_8472> thrice
[21:26:49] <The_8472> dht, extension portocol, udp transport
[21:27:36] <TheSHAD0W> Is uTP better than your udp transport?
[21:27:57] <The_8472> probably. LEDBAT didn't exist back then when it was coded
[21:29:54] <Nolar> totally different
[21:30:20] <Nolar> design goals
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