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[08:12:01] <Tazmainian> Morning all
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[08:38:00] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[08:40:50] <SargoDarya> Morning folks o/
[08:41:35] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
[08:43:34] <icebox> hey folks
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[08:59:17] <Tazmainian> Morning Pyrrhus666, SargoDarya
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[09:00:31] <Pyrrhus666> morning icebox Tazmainian
[09:02:23] <Tazmainian> is icebox still connected? Can't autocomplete
[09:03:03] <Pyrrhus666> typed that one in full, but it seems he's gone
[09:08:39] <SargoDarya> hm. Weird thing
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[09:17:05] <pupskuchen> good morning
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[09:19:35] <Paradisee> morninb
[09:19:38] <Paradisee> g*
[09:22:22] <lilalinux> How can I return an action inside a catchError handler of an effect? i.e. I handled the error and want to treat it the same as the success case
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[09:28:33] <Pyrrhus666> morning pupskuchen Paradisee
[09:29:04] <SargoDarya> lilalinux: of(fromSomething.YourAction)
[09:29:25] <lilalinux> SargoDarya: Thx!
[09:29:31] <SargoDarya> Most welcome
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[09:50:59] <Rumpo> Good morning, good morning, morning......hello
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[09:57:51] <ray02> hello hello
[09:57:54] <ray02> morning folks!
[10:01:09] <Pyrrhus666> morning Rumpo ray02
[10:03:00] <Rumpo> Everyone ready for a fun filled Thursday?
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[10:05:38] <ray02> yeee!!!
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[10:06:02] <ray02> i have just installed this font
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[10:06:55] <Rumpo> I love FiraCode, looks great with Ligatures switched on, I think it was WesBos that steered me onto it
[10:09:26] <Pyrrhus666> tried it, hated it. now on hack with ligatures, not looking back ;)
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[10:11:55] <ray02> eheh
[10:12:04] <ray02> i hope to falling in love with it
[10:12:23] <ray02> hey hey icebox
[10:12:29] <icebox> hey ray02
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[10:15:16] <Pyrrhus666> just download that and you'll be fine :P
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[10:19:28] <ray02> Pyrrhus666: what is adding in plus ?
[10:19:33] <ray02> i don't understand
[10:19:34] <Rumpo> I love the time an effort some people put into their repos, creating CI/CD, fully fleshed readme's contribution guide lines. Especially when it's for font ligatures. I mean you look at some of the big repos and the readme is # Build it # Run it
[10:20:29] <selckin> passion vs $$
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[10:22:19] <Rumpo> I remember doing the same for a repo for little css led lights. My proudest repo work.
[10:24:17] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, what do you mean ?
[10:24:50] <ray02> Pyrrhus666: the hack fonts is adding some ligature right ?
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[10:26:47] <Pyrrhus666> no, the font is called 'hack' and this repo adds ligatures to that font
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[10:27:45] <ray02> ahhh ok
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[10:29:03] <baako> async getFoo(): Promise<array> { }
[10:29:09] <baako> error TS2304: Cannot find name 'array'.
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[10:29:51] <storkme> yeah
[10:29:54] <storkme> I think you mean Array
[10:30:00] <storkme> but really you should use the [] syntax
[10:30:08] <storkme> and really you need to say what it is an array of
[10:30:19] <ray02> this ^
[10:30:34] <Pyrrhus666> that ^^
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[10:31:18] <ray02> those ^^^
[10:31:32] <icebox> I second ^^^^
[10:31:55] <storkme> thirded
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[10:33:16] <baako> thanks storkme :)
[10:33:54] <ray02> i'm fascinated to see how many possibility there are to share code
[10:34:29] <baako> lol ray02
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[10:57:18] <Paradisee> how can i make a generator in typescript?
[10:57:31] <Paradisee> i've done it in python, but i can't understand it in typescript
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[10:59:00] <storkme> why do you want to make a generator
[10:59:57] <Paradisee> cause i have to use the same method in multiple parts and do stuff on each iteration
[11:00:12] <storkme> wouldn't callbacks work for that
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[11:01:01] <storkme> generators are the same in ts as js anyway, no?
[11:01:12] <Paradisee> don't know, i used em in python
[11:01:29] <Paradisee> pretty usefull if you won't break the iteration
[11:01:38] <storkme> well i'd hazard that the python syntax doesn't work in ts
[11:11:16] <Paradisee> that's an example
[11:11:42] <Paradisee> you can have a for loop and inside you just yield the value without breaking the for loop itseld
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[11:13:27] <Paradisee> isOverlapping and showErrors methods use the same iteration which is ugly as f.
[11:13:34] <SargoDarya> Man, performance testing is fun
[11:17:18] <storkme> personally i'd just use a function that takes a callback
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[11:20:03] <Paradisee> what do you mean
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[11:22:06] <storkme> create a re-usable function that performs these two loops and calls a callback, which would be different in each of your isOverlapping and showErrors functions
[11:26:02] <ray02> yeah
[11:26:08] <ray02> the perfect boss :D
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[11:30:52] <icebox> and last publish 3 years ago... sigh
[11:31:09] <icebox> with 151 issues openend
[11:33:57] <SargoDarya> Nice Tazmainian
[11:34:12] <SargoDarya> Meanwhile I'm trying to get rid of moment wherever I can
[11:34:23] <ray02> of moment ?
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[11:38:10] <anddam> howdy
[11:38:10] <Tazmainian> why getting rid of moment, I know it's not ideal but...
[11:38:19] <storkme> it's bad
[11:38:22] <anddam> some emoji or unicode char on this channel is killing my st instance
[11:38:27] <storkme> date-fns is a more modern replacement
[11:38:37] <anddam> literally when I connect to the irc tmux session the whole terminal collapses
[11:38:47] <anddam> ray02: mind a query?
[11:39:20] <anddam> Elarcis: you too, do you mind a query?
[11:39:22] <ray02> anddam: be my guest
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[12:13:56] <Rumpo> Can't wait for this week to be over, just been building build agents and deployment machines, this is not my idea of fun.
[12:16:43] <ray02> Rumpo: what would you like to do ?
[12:16:57] <Rumpo> Rather be coding
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[12:20:37] <storkme> is the work gonna get better soon
[12:22:54] <Rumpo> This is only a tempory thing, they're planning on releasing the first version of their product in a few weeks, I've been working on it the past 5 months but they had no plans for testing, build systems, or deploying. So I said I'll take this week out to get something in place. But I've just been fighting so many things it's been such a horrible experience.
[12:23:23] <storkme> ouch :(
[12:23:34] <storkme> what's a build agent? and a deployment machine?
[12:25:27] <Rumpo> Build agent pulls the code down and builds it, and a deployment machine is where you can download the build code and deploy. All automatically with no interaction.
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[12:26:30] <storkme> we use docker for that kind of thing
[12:26:38] <storkme> god i hate redux. have i mentioned this before?
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[12:27:15] <storkme> so much fucking boilerplate. so hard to see if/where things are actually being used.
[12:27:25] <storkme> this is such a javascript developers solution to a problem 😴
[12:27:57] <jlebrech> java developer solution
[12:28:00] <Rumpo> We are using docker on some of the machines, we have a mix of Linux and Windows VMS, some host docker for building, some done.
[12:28:10] <jlebrech> java developer ruin every other language
[12:28:48] <storkme> i'd rather work with java than js
[12:29:19] <storkme> having worked extensively with both, i'd prefer java's 'verbosity' to javascripts lackadaisical hackery
[12:31:43] <Rumpo> At least Java is being used as it was intended to be used.
[12:32:56] <stennowork> morning
[12:33:01] <SargoDarya> Morning stennowork
[12:33:08] <Rumpo> Morning stennowork
[12:33:13] <stennowork> o7
[12:33:22] <stennowork> so late today zomg
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[12:54:11] <jlebrech> Rumpo, agreed. but don't need any of that stuff in js
[12:54:53] <anddam> Elarcis has not been around for a couple days at least, I see
[12:55:30] <jlebrech> storkme, a framework that transpiles to js/wasm whatever would be nice in future. there are some but still early days
[13:00:57] <storkme> anyone have any tips for mocking API calls when doing e2e testing?
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[13:04:07] <jlebrech> or a a flask app to send mock data?
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[13:08:07] <storkme> might just use cypress instead, it seems much better thought out
[13:08:41] <jlebrech> i try it for a while, didnt' like it either
[13:09:01] <storkme> i think one of our other frontend teams is having success with it
[13:09:27] <jlebrech> that's cool, as long as your html classes are sane
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[13:12:08] <jlebrech> we used if for the wrong reason, to test a 3rd party api for changes rather than test our frontend against an known good api.
[13:12:58] <storkme> ahh
[13:14:37] <haiiokarin> anyone here uses GraphQL with angular? My team is thinking of implementing
[13:18:53] <anddam> haiiokarin: implementing seems a good idea
[13:19:00] <anddam> I mean, speaking in general terms
[13:19:05] <pupskuchen> sleeping seems like a good idea
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[13:22:59] <stennowork> sleeping at 1pm?
[13:24:53] <jaami> most ppl & animals sleep after they eat lunch
[13:25:04] <jaami> that is natural
[13:25:42] <jaami> am i getting it right
[13:25:48] <pupskuchen> I think so
[13:25:55] <pupskuchen> :D
[13:25:55] <jaami> :)
[13:27:22] <haiiokarin> anddam: We hit soo much endpoints, what in general do you think it's best advantage over standard communication with API ( REST ) ?
[13:27:56] <haiiokarin> i'm just diving into all of that
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[13:34:31] <jlebrech> you could also proxy and give your proxy a 12 hr ttl
[13:34:41] <jlebrech> your text proxy that is
[13:34:44] <jlebrech> test*
[13:48:02] <Rumpo> haiiokarin, I've used GraphQL without Angular and it was good, worked well, performant, and easy to get started. One thing I could see being an anoyance (Guessing really), is if you like to keep your Angular projects with types and not using 'any' or 'unknown' you're going to be creating lots a interfaces and functions with multiple return types.
[13:49:47] <stennowork> from my own experience, working with graphql can cause a lot of boilerplate, and only has specific use cases
[13:50:19] <haiiokarin> Rumpo: Yeah i do like but i mean, if at the end perfomance is better and testing and refactoring in the future can be easier i'm all up for that. We are in a transition where we want to reorganize and implement graphql
[13:50:53] <stennowork> haiiokarin, why do you want to use graphql? any specific reason?
[13:51:32] <stennowork> or just because it sounds new and funky
[13:51:57] <haiiokarin> stennowork: still waiting for presentation by our senior but wanted here to hear from folks what you think about it in general
[13:52:10] <stennowork> oh ok
[13:52:30] <haiiokarin> i think that he will explain why our use case needs it.. i think :D
[13:52:40] <stennowork> that would be good
[13:53:16] <Rumpo> I might actually try tonight, implement an angular app with GraphQL, for science
[13:53:46] <haiiokarin> stennowork: by specific use cases, what cases you classify for needing graphql?
[13:55:03] <stennowork> graphql is good if you have complex queries you need to componse 'on the run'
[13:55:24] <stennowork> compose
[13:55:53] <stennowork> also graphql has some advantages regarding overhead as opposed to classic rest api
[13:56:29] <stennowork> but if your api is relatively simple, the added complexity doesn't justify the usage of graphql
[13:56:39] <Rumpo> My issue with it the level of complexity you're putting into the UI, I'd rather have a restful server just give me the data I need, I don't care how I get it, just give me my data.
[13:57:24] <stennowork> you need to have a special client which composes your graphql requests: request data is not 'just json'
[13:58:09] <stennowork> Rumpo, huh, the UI?
[13:58:22] <Rumpo> stennowork, UI / Angular App
[13:58:33] <stennowork> hmm i guess
[13:58:36] <stennowork> idk about thajt
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[14:01:14] <haiiokarin> stennowork: gotcha, our api is complex but maybe it's because we juniors wrote everything by assistance of seniors and we see it as complex. But yeah i guess we can benefit, will still need to see presentation.
[14:01:17] <Rumpo> I like to keep the angular as stupid as possible, so If I want to swap it over to something else, React, Vue, or I want to have a FAT client, I don't have to rewrite to much.
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[14:05:36] <Rumpo> ^^ But does completely depend on use case
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[14:16:31] <Paradisee> storkme: didn't understand what you ment btw
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[15:18:15] <storkme> Paradisee: you know Array.prototype.map ? like that
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[15:34:21] <icebox> OT: what is a nice site / way to document open API (not he backend ones)?
[15:34:40] <stennowork> swagger?
[15:34:47] <stennowork> oh hm
[15:35:17] <icebox> stennowork: no... that is for backend rest API ;)
[15:35:21] <stennowork> yeah
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[15:53:04] <cadabrax> hey all, how would you handle loading spinners and error from services hitting APIs? In React, I'd have a global variable for the whole application that every components have in scope that says isLoading=true|false, and another variable containing the error (if any) that other components could display if it's not empty. How do I get variables that are in scope for every component (without explicitly
[15:53:10] <cadabrax> passing it in to every component) in angular?
[15:53:37] <cadabrax> I'd rather not go full redux if I can avoid it, to keep it simple
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<baako> hi guys, need someone to shed light on this issue for me. I have different build target which works on. One of my build target is mobile, so when his runs i want it to include a css for me. the angular.json i adeed https://kopy.io/6SKLK to the mobile build target. Kinda works because i can see the styling on view. however it has broken other css
[16:00:28] <baako> the css file only has this 1 class which is
[16:00:29] <baako> .health-kit-data-syncing { height: 25px; width: 100%; }
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[16:01:06] <baako> health-kit-data-syncing is the only class in the project
[16:03:57] <Pyrrhus666> baako, only add that style in the 'mobile'build-target ?
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[16:05:56] <baako> Pyrrhus666: what do you mean?
[16:06:20] <baako> i only want it to include that css as part of the mobile build target
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[16:06:46] <baako> isnt that what the styles functionality in the angularjs is for?
[16:06:47] <Pyrrhus666> baako so define them only in the section for the mobile target ?
[16:07:40] <baako> i have but its breaking other part of the project
[16:07:46] <baako> for the mobile
[16:07:52] <Pyrrhus666> or in a worst case scenario : inline the css in the indexhtml for mobile
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[16:08:30] <Pyrrhus666> then you have done something wrong. if you only include those styles for mobile, they cannot interfere with other targets
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[16:10:55] <baako> Pyrrhus666: its breaking other things within that target
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[16:11:09] <baako> not other targets
[16:12:16] <Pyrrhus666> then your issue is purely a css one, I guess. not a build issue
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[16:15:08] <cadabrax> Pyrrhus666: this would block navigation, right? While it's loading, it doesn't change the route, and once it's done loading it changes the route?
[16:15:56] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, yes. but an event will fire that enables you to display a spinner (for example)
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[16:16:23] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, otherwise, do an 'if (loaded)' in the template, but to me that deels like a cludge
[16:16:40] <baako> Pyrrhus666: maybe
[16:16:49] <cadabrax> what about errors though
[16:17:04] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, wdym ? show a toast or smt ?
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[16:18:24] <cadabrax> oh I see, the resolver can do it, it returns whatever the service oe
[16:18:25] <cadabrax> does
[16:19:10] <Pyrrhus666> yes
[16:20:19] <cadabrax> am I blind? where does it say what even it fires?
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[16:25:47] <Pyrrhus666> the event classes are there too
[16:40:55] <Paradisee> storkme: i know map of course
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[17:03:33] <storkme> so it's the same thing right?
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[17:20:21] <SargoDarya> I'm out folks, good night o/
[17:21:22] <ray02> you too SargoDarya
[17:21:48] <stennowork> good night
[17:22:17] <storkme> peace out
[17:26:03] <pupskuchen> people leaving earlier than me, I must be late
[17:27:44] <ray02> pupskuchen: infact i'm surprised that you are still with us! :D
[17:28:21] <Rumpo> Finally done! I am a dev ops god!..........fml
[17:28:47] <storkme> \o/
[17:28:50] <ray02> yee
[17:29:00] <ray02> how do you became a dev ops?
[17:29:57] <Rumpo> ray02, not by choice XD
[17:30:14] <ray02> ahah ah ok
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[17:31:32] <Rumpo> If I had any hair I would of pulled it out by now, but by god it's a real sense of achievement when it's all working
[17:31:50] <ray02> eheh
[17:31:55] <storkme> it's good to know this stuff
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[17:33:48] <Rumpo> It's the small things which get you, events / bugs that only happen once every million times and the only solution is on page displayed 50 pages deep on search results
[17:37:55] <stennowork> Rumpo, can you give a me 1on1 on deployment then
[17:37:57] <stennowork> (j/k)
[17:38:08] <stennowork> but i really have to look into deployment soon and i am scared of it
[17:38:44] <Rumpo> stennowork, sure, as soon as I've given myself a 1on1 :D
[17:38:54] <stennowork> :)
[17:40:07] <stennowork> maybe i should ask for on-the-job devops training too
[17:40:13] <Rumpo> It's not too bad if you have one or two applications, but we have 20-25 different applications with different technologies...the joys of micro-services
[17:40:27] <stennowork> oof
[17:41:52] <Rumpo> and nothing gets merged into master until it's gone through automated testing, so of course that's different testing frameworks too
[17:42:10] <Rumpo> Oh well...I've swam with sharks and lived to tell the tale
[17:42:18] <Rumpo> Beer tonight me thinks
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[18:16:55] <Rumpo> I'm off, have a good one!
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[18:23:24] <pupskuchen> ray02: yeah, I was kinda in focus and didn't want to lose it :P
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