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[01:00:07] <shimsh> so, is there a lib that has reusable directives?
[01:00:37] <shimsh> so i don't have to spend ages writing and testing something
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[07:53:04] <Tazmainian> Morning all
[08:06:45] <cadabrax> hey Tazmainian
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[08:27:17] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
[08:32:46] <trampi> Morning everyone!
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[08:43:19] <Pyrrhus666> morning trampi
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[08:57:07] <cadabrax> evulish: you should see the kind of code my company sells our customers. I'd be ashamed to ask money for that.
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[09:16:57] <cadabrax> has anyone ever tried to use jest.fn() to spy on an observable?
[09:21:04] <storkme> like on an observable instance itself?
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[09:21:32] <storkme> that seems like an odd thing to want to do.
[09:23:18] <Pyrrhus666> observing the observable. sounds very heisenberg to me in some ay
[09:23:29] <cadabrax> haha
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[09:25:15] <cadabrax> well I have a service that makes api calls, right. this service returns observables which the components subscribe to. in my component, I have a series of functions that transform the data in the component's form into a new data structure that the service accepts. so my test mocks the service altogether and only checks that with a given input, the service is called with the right arguments.
[09:25:28] <pupskuchen> good morning
[09:25:36] <Pyrrhus666> morning pupskuchen
[09:25:57] <cadabrax> except the code in my component then .subscribe() to the service call, and so it blows in my face when mocked with jest.fn() because it's obv not an observable and subscribe() is undefined.
[09:26:25] <cadabrax> the alternative would be to subscribe in the service and then of() the service call when I need I guess
[09:26:30] <cadabrax> but meh
[09:31:53] <storkme> yeah, surely that's the right/easiest thing to do
[09:40:17] <SargoDarya> Morning folks o/
[09:40:28] <SargoDarya> Forgot to open up IRC.
[09:41:41] <cadabrax> but then... what's the type for a function that ends in subscribe()? what does it return as far as typescript is concerned?
[09:42:13] <SargoDarya> It returns the generic of what you return. Observable are mostly generics and type inference
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[09:43:39] <storkme> Observable<T> I guess?
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[09:44:18] <SargoDarya> I think so, yes.
[09:45:10] <cadabrax> no, then TS says type Subscription is missing. If I say it returns Subscription<foo> instead, I get Subscription isn't a generic type
[09:46:23] <storkme> a Subscription is the return type of the Observable.prototype.subscribe method
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[09:46:30] <pupskuchen> hi SargoDarya!
[09:46:34] <storkme> and that is correct, it has no type information
[09:48:56] <storkme> so when you mock your service function which is returning an observable, why not just have that function return `of(someTestData)`
[09:50:07] <cadabrax> because jest.fn() can't deal with it, and I don't want to rewrite spies manually when jest.fn() can do it
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[09:51:36] <storkme> in what way can't it deal with it? you're just mocking a function and providing a return value
[09:52:10] <cadabrax> riiight, I misunderstood what you meant
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[09:57:29] <cadabrax> I seriously doubt the benefits of typescript. it constantly gets in my way.
[09:57:43] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
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[09:58:10] <pupskuchen> cadabrax: >:(
[09:58:13] <icebox> hey folks
[09:58:17] <pupskuchen> hi icebox
[09:58:38] <Pyrrhus666> morning icebox
[09:59:00] <storkme> if you are having problems with types in typescript, i would bet money that your problems in JS would be worse :x
[10:02:50] <FabioP> morning
[10:03:00] <FabioP> i'm going crazy with rxjs stuff i think
[10:03:22] <storkme> what's up?
[10:03:22] <pupskuchen> that's normal
[10:03:33] <storkme> rxjs is love
[10:03:34] <FabioP> i kinda solved somehow this issue on my other pc, but i can't remember how
[10:03:54] <FabioP> stackblitz crashed.. one moment..
[10:04:01] <pupskuchen> rip
[10:07:07] <FabioP> wtf i press fork and it crashes
[10:07:14] <FabioP> jesus christ
[10:07:47] <FabioP> what have i done wrong in my life
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[10:13:36] <ray02> hello hello
[10:13:40] <ray02> morning folks
[10:13:52] <FabioP> hi ray02
[10:13:54] <FabioP> https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-vc7m5t?file=src/app/app.component.html
[10:14:08] <FabioP> here my issue is i lose focus after the typeahead
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[10:14:52] <Rumpo> Morning
[10:15:12] <ray02> how is going?
[10:15:59] <snbr> hi , can i make router redirect tafter receiving false from authGuard's canActivate? normally i have had routing inside canActivate implementation but I have quite few guards setup and I use them in for example logical OR so i cant route from canActivate itself
[10:16:02] <FabioP> fine except my back hurts and my rxjs-fu is worth crap
[10:16:40] <snbr> is there a way to tell router to react in specific way to getting false from canActivate?
[10:17:58] <pupskuchen> FabioP: it's probably because your form is removed from the DOM while the request is being loaded
[10:18:18] <storkme> yeah, because you're changing what album$ is
[10:18:24] <storkme> inside the subscribe block
[10:18:45] <pupskuchen> FabioP: remove the *ngIf from the form element and you'll see it's not losing focus
[10:19:22] <FabioP> oh
[10:19:31] <FabioP> genius
[10:19:57] <FabioP> but what it if i want the ngif
[10:20:12] <FabioP> and i don't want to use a temp array but a pure rxjs solution
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[10:22:53] <ilhami> hello
[10:24:52] <ilhami> Can't bind to 'ngbNavItem' since it isn't a known property of 'li'. Am I missing a dependency? :s
[10:25:28] <pupskuchen> FabioP: why would you want to remove the whole form from the DOM?
[10:25:49] <ilhami> oh yeah I am missing a dependency. :p
[10:25:51] <FabioP> pupskuchen i don't indeed, i'm only trying to implement the typeahead in pure rxjs
[10:26:24] <FabioP> while keeping the if logic
[10:26:25] <storkme> how about something like this FabioP https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-23jolx?file=src%2Fapp%2Fapp.component.ts
[10:27:09] <FabioP> it shows only loading...
[10:27:55] <storkme> weird
[10:28:05] <FabioP> it works to you?
[10:28:48] <FabioP> btw that's why i had to subscribe manually, because otherwise it wouldn't have shown
[10:28:51] <storkme> this works for me? https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-23jolx?file=src%2Fapp%2Fapp.component.ts
[10:29:14] <storkme> just tried it in incognito mode in chrome and it seems to work. do you get any console errors or anything?
[10:29:34] <FabioP> oh, now it works??
[10:29:37] <FabioP> what changed?
[10:30:26] <storkme> a couple of things - firstly, no more subscribing in the ngOnInit function. secondly, only one `| async` is used in the template, thirdly, the actual logic of the album$ observable was re-written a bit
[10:30:46] <FabioP> ok but i don't understand one thing
[10:30:59] <storkme> sure, what's that?
[10:31:01] <FabioP> i had to subscribe manually becuase i wouldn't see nothing otherwise
[10:31:37] <FabioP> oh you moved the pipe to the form level
[10:31:44] <FabioP> instead of the for
[10:31:48] <FabioP> is that it?
[10:31:53] <storkme> well, that's one thing
[10:32:16] <storkme> also, in your solution, you were re-assigning the album$ observable
[10:32:41] <FabioP> yeah i know it was bad but i had to do it
[10:32:51] <FabioP> i had two pipes maybe that's the error
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[10:33:43] <storkme> the two pipes were a little confusing, I'm not sure it was the best way to use `withLatestFrom`
[10:34:17] <storkme> in general, if you find yourself re-declaring an observable, you've probably gone wrong somewhere. Observables are like functions, and you wouldn't programatically re-declare a function, right?
[10:34:40] <FabioP> yeah
[10:35:06] <FabioP> i guess the problem was in the template piping.. i have to pinpoint it now
[10:35:20] <FabioP> that is very helpful storkme thank you
[10:36:44] <storkme> you're welcome
[10:37:01] <FabioP> now i changed my code to yours but it's stuck to loading...
[10:37:50] <storkme> both template and component? do you have any console errors?
[10:37:57] <ilhami> I keep getting this: Module not found: Error: Can't resolve ' at ng-bootstrap/ng-bootstrap/nav/nav dot module' .. in my editor it finds it. WTF
[10:39:06] <FabioP> no i had to change the piping according to yours too, sorry
[10:39:12] <FabioP> now it works
[10:39:23] <FabioP> still have to understand what's wrong in my version
[10:41:05] <FabioP> ok the issue is in the rxjs chain
[10:41:15] <FabioP> mine was just wrong apparently
[10:41:59] <storkme> i forgot to mention, my version also uses `startWith('')` at the top of the observable chain
[10:42:14] <storkme> this is because FormControl.prototype.valueChanges doesn't emit an initial value
[10:43:00] <storkme> therefore, your album$ observable won't emit anything until the user starts to type something in the form field
[10:43:26] <FabioP> oh that's right
[10:43:31] <FabioP> that would solve the issue
[10:43:32] <storkme> but, since your form isn't visible until album$ emits something (due to the *ngIf on the <form> element), it'll never appear
[10:43:46] <FabioP> yeah it make sense
[10:43:50] <storkme> i forgot to mention that, that was important
[10:43:55] <FabioP> yes yes
[10:43:57] <FabioP> amazing
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[10:59:28] <FabioP> any suggestion/tips in debugging rxjs? should i use rxjs spy, tapping with console.log ?
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[11:09:47] <storkme> loads of taps everywhere
[11:10:34] <ilhami> I fixed it. Removed node_modules and ran npm install again
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[11:35:09] <SargoDarya> Gotta love home office. Way more productive that way :D
[11:35:33] <storkme> not for me, i get distracted by things like cooking and laundry
[11:44:44] <pupskuchen> I'm also more productive when working at home
[11:45:32] <jlebrech> storkme, that sounds productive to me
[11:45:39] <SargoDarya> lol jlebrech
[11:47:21] <storkme> plus, norwegian slow tv on my second monitor
[11:47:38] <jlebrech> wfh is more productive when you mix work and chores over 12 hours. not set 9-5. it's idea for contract/freelancers
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[11:55:08] <storkme> but then it blurs the work/home divide, and you end up being half-at-work for your entire day
[12:01:40] <FabioP> ^^
[12:06:47] <stennowork> morning
[12:07:02] <Pyrrhus666> morning stennowork
[12:07:29] <Pyrrhus666> storkme, exactly why I'm glad I don't work from home. I would fall into that trap sooo hard...
[12:11:13] <ilhami> hey.
[12:11:49] <stennowork> o7
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[12:21:39] <ilhami> I need help! :P
[12:22:39] <stennowork> who doesn't, in this day and age
[12:25:27] <Pyrrhus666> OT : just played please state the nature of the medical emergency
[12:25:56] <Pyrrhus666> hmm, that first bit should not have been there
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[12:33:23] <pupskuchen> consider me confused
[12:33:29] <cadabrax> Pyrrhus666 plays doctor during work hours!
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[12:34:11] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, no comment ;)
[12:34:57] <ilhami> China, they eat everything there and now punished with a virus. Yikes.
[12:35:28] <cadabrax> yeah just like AIDS was god'd punishment for gays
[12:35:32] * cadabrax rolls eyes
[12:35:53] <Pyrrhus666> ilhami, you serious ? djeez.
[12:36:02] <ilhami> there is a difference between eating rats and mice and being gay
[12:36:21] <Pyrrhus666> not in the sense that both statements are utter bs
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[12:36:28] <cadabrax> ^ this
[12:36:34] <ilhami> yeah bs to you
[12:36:45] <Pyrrhus666> to everyone with a sne mind ;)
[12:36:56] <Pyrrhus666> *sane, dammit
[12:37:33] <ilhami> that virus comes from poisonous snakes I heard. And they eat that a lot there. They also eat dogs
[12:37:38] <storkme> seems pretty prejudice to say something about a people being 'punished' for some perceived behaviour
[12:38:01] <stennowork> here in germany we eat raw, shreddered pig meat
[12:38:03] <Pyrrhus666> ilhami, sure. I heard it was man-made. I hear a lotr of shit
[12:38:04] <cadabrax> shit, this channel has become reddit /r/politics :(
[12:38:31] <ilhami> stennowork, eating a pig is more normal than eating a dog or a rat. :p
[12:38:34] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, nah, that's far worse, luckily ;)
[12:38:42] <stennowork> ilhami, no, not at all
[12:38:45] <Pyrrhus666> ^
[12:38:52] <stennowork> ilhami, for many cultures, eating pig is a taboo
[12:39:09] <cadabrax> ilhami: pigs are as intelligent as dogs. why eating a pig is ok but not a dog?
[12:39:31] <Pyrrhus666> I bet dogs are less gross when you cut them open
[12:39:57] <ilhami> you don't eat man's best friend
[12:39:58] <Pyrrhus666> (yes, I've cut pigs for real, when taking samples for scientific purposes)
[12:39:59] <ilhami> :)
[12:40:10] <Pyrrhus666> my best friend is a pig
[12:40:13] <cadabrax> alright I'm out, I'll come back when it's over
[12:40:14] <ilhami> lol
[12:41:14] <ilhami> cadabrax, it's already over
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[12:47:53] <pupskuchen> who won?
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[12:48:34] <Pyrrhus666> for now the corona virus did
[12:49:11] <storkme> there are no winners here
[12:49:40] <Pyrrhus666> you could argue the planet wins if there's less people on it
[12:50:19] <pupskuchen> we should join up to try and win the euro jackpot
[12:50:28] <pupskuchen> 90000000 €
[12:50:39] <pupskuchen> should still be enough for us even when we split
[12:53:14] <Pyrrhus666> with 209 people in the room, yeah... not enough to retire though
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[12:54:35] <pupskuchen> only active people are invited of course :P
[12:54:48] <stennowork> those would be ~450k per person, right?
[12:55:06] <pupskuchen> depends on the definiton of active
[12:55:08] <pupskuchen> :D
[12:55:31] <pupskuchen> oh you meant if you take everyone
[12:55:52] <pupskuchen> maths
[12:56:00] <Pyrrhus666> are hard
[12:56:22] <stennowork> yeah thats nice but not really enough for retiring
[12:58:20] <Pyrrhus666> I could get me a nicer house though
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[13:00:49] <pupskuchen> how many active people are we? maybe 30? that'd be 3 million for each
[13:01:18] <stennowork> that would be enough for retirement i think
[13:01:24] <stennowork> i think i calculated 2 million each
[13:01:25] <stennowork> er
[13:01:30] <stennowork> 2 million for retirement
[13:03:56] <cadabrax> shit i could make retirement work for my partner and I on 600-700k
[13:04:04] <cadabrax> probably less if we move somewhere sunnier
[13:04:27] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, you are either old or very frugal ;)
[13:05:06] <stennowork> so i thought that with 2500 brutto per month i could lead a comfortable life
[13:05:15] <cadabrax> well not where I live now (CH), but in places like Spain, Portugal, rural France, 25-30k a year goes a loooong way
[13:05:21] <stennowork> thats 60000 brutto p.a.
[13:05:32] <cadabrax> especially when you're not working anymore and have all the time in the world to fix, cook, and make shit for yourself
[13:05:55] <stennowork> and 40 years of life gives ~2.5 million without interest
[13:06:25] <Pyrrhus666> stennowork, yeah, I can't see 700k working for me
[13:06:29] <cadabrax> right, but you dont spend anywhere near as much as when you're working once you retire
[13:06:43] <stennowork> cadabrax, you think so?
[13:06:47] <cadabrax> plus interests is a killer, it compounds fast
[13:06:53] <Pyrrhus666> I'd probably spend more. not much, but still
[13:06:56] <cadabrax> stennowork: I know so, there was multiple studies
[13:07:01] <Pyrrhus666> interest is zero
[13:07:07] <cadabrax> trying to find one
[13:07:30] <stennowork> my parents who are retired are now making 'short holidays' for a weekend each month
[13:07:33] <cadabrax> it's not 0, assuming your capital is invested and you live off the dividends, it's more like 7% per year over 10 year periods
[13:07:46] <Pyrrhus666> that's not interest though ;)
[13:07:47] <cadabrax> if it's on a savings account then yeah you'll need 10 million
[13:08:29] <Pyrrhus666> and an economic crisis will hit you hard. and given 40 years of life, you'll see a couple
[13:08:32] <cadabrax> it's the same thing, it's your money growing, call it interests or dividends or appreciation, it's the same thing in the end
[13:08:38] <stennowork> wait maths
[13:08:53] <Pyrrhus666> no, since it's uncertain, and has risks. not the same thing at all.
[13:09:01] <stennowork> 2500 brutto per month would be 30000 brutto p.a.
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[13:09:13] <stennowork> so 60000 p.a. would be 5000 brutto per month
[13:09:23] <stennowork> the year has 12 months, not 24
[13:09:25] <cadabrax> Pyrrhus666: well if you stop working younger because you dont need 10 million, you can always go back to work for a couple ofyears when shit hits the fan, also when you retire, you shift to safer investments like bonds rather than stocks
[13:09:52] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, safe inverstments do 1% p.a.
[13:09:57] <pupskuchen> what did I start here … :D
[13:10:02] <Pyrrhus666> :P
[13:10:16] <stennowork> well its interesting to think about imo
[13:10:22] <Pyrrhus666> agreed
[13:10:24] <cadabrax> haha oh well I dont want to convince anyone, but if you give me 600-700k I'd be happy to show you how I retire on it :)
[13:10:29] <stennowork> otherwise the perspective is just working for the next 30 years
[13:10:44] <stennowork> its soothing to look at an alternative, however outlandish :P
[13:10:59] <cadabrax> but on this kind of retirement, you buy used computers, you dont have a brand new car every 3 years, you eat in most of the time, you dont fly as often
[13:11:02] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, earn it yourself and then show us :P
[13:11:23] <cadabrax> why do you think I moved to Switzerland to work haha
[13:11:29] <pupskuchen> stennowork: 30 years, lucky you
[13:11:33] <pupskuchen> it's > 40 for me
[13:12:29] <cadabrax> seriously, I dont mean to be that guy but if anyone is interested I'm happy to share some reading. no pyramid or anything, i have nothing to sell. but no you dont need to work 20-30-40 years to retire if you dont want to
[13:12:59] <stennowork> cadabrax, sure, but then the consideration is still how much your monthly income, in whatever form, is, if you retire earlier
[13:13:15] <stennowork> because the state wont pay much rent if you retire by yourself early
[13:13:20] <cadabrax> right, so if you design your life to live within your means, that's not a problem
[13:13:27] <cadabrax> and no the state wont help you much, you have to save for yourself
[13:13:45] <storkme> it also depends on the consistent performance of your shares/stock/indexfund or whatever, which isn't a given
[13:13:46] <cadabrax> but on software engineer salaries, saving 50% of your net income is not *that* hard
[13:14:15] <cadabrax> and if you do that, you can retire muuuuch earlier if you choose to
[13:14:17] <stennowork> in germany, if you paid into the federal retirement funds for 45 years (i.e. if you worked as an employee for 45 years), you can retire with 63 without any malus
[13:14:49] <cadabrax> storkme: if you look at long enough periods, it is a given. if you look at 2-5-7 year periods then yes it's a gamble
[13:15:14] <cadabrax> historically, the markets have returned 7% per year since 1850 or so. before inflation.
[13:15:28] <cadabrax> so yeah one year might be -30%, that's a bad year to retire
[13:15:41] <cadabrax> but on average, per blocks of 10 years, it's 7%
[13:16:03] <cadabrax> because there are other years that are +20%
[13:16:06] <cadabrax> so it evens out
[13:16:31] <cadabrax> besides your savings interests or state pension all pretty much rely on these facts
[13:16:32] <jlebrech> buy a small apartment in the city, not much of a pay out. but also if something still goes wrong you can sell in 10 years and move to the country
[13:16:54] <cadabrax> depends where you live, lots of places where buying is way more expensive than renting
[13:17:14] <cadabrax> both in upkeep and ongoing costs as well as tying up lots of capital
[13:17:41] <storkme> it feels unlikely that this growth trend is going to continue, but I guess people have always thought that
[13:18:52] <stennowork> yeah the capitalist growth system might just implode again at some point
[13:18:57] <cadabrax> probably, but everyone is fucked then because the whole system depends on that
[13:19:03] <stennowork> and this time there might be no state bail out
[13:19:15] <storkme> true, yeah, you can't really plan for such existential crises
[13:19:35] <cadabrax> so same with global warming, nobody really knows how bad it actually is
[13:19:35] <pupskuchen> you can if you make yourself independent of money
[13:20:02] <cadabrax> how do you mean pupskuchen
[13:20:09] <stennowork> pupskuchen, true, but this will probably mean you surrender quite some comfort
[13:20:13] <storkme> invest in a farm
[13:20:34] <pupskuchen> stennowork: yeah, most likely
[13:20:34] <stennowork> will you have energy? will you have proper internet? will you have proper infrastructure in your area?
[13:20:57] <pupskuchen> it all depends on what you want :D
[13:21:21] <stennowork> energy is probably not the problem but stuff like infrastructure and internet will most likely require interaction with the state or w/e and that will require money
[13:21:25] <stennowork> pupskuchen, sure
[13:21:37] <stennowork> diogenes of synope just needed a barrel to live
[13:21:40] <stennowork> and he was even happy
[13:22:03] <cadabrax> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Trinity_study that's about how much you need saved to retire
[13:22:14] <icebox> at last  0.1m + 0.2m === 0.3m   // true!
[13:22:16] <stennowork> gotta decide for yourself if you could be happy living in a metaphorical barrle
[13:22:21] <cadabrax> wikiwand is a wrapper around wikipedia, it makes it look nicer but otherwise shows wikipedia articles
[13:23:14] <cadabrax> and so I argue you really dont need that much money to live on, but that takes conscious effort. owning a 3000$ brand new macbook doesnt really make me happier than a 200$ thinkpad for instance
[13:23:29] <cadabrax> but it's easy to see things differently when you spend 100% of your salary
[13:23:43] <cadabrax> or you might not need a 5$ coffee every day to be happy
[13:23:51] <stennowork> owning high end hardware brings me joy ^_^"
[13:24:01] <cadabrax> that's to say it'd hard to live on 0$ a year, but you dont nee dmillions either
[13:24:18] <pupskuchen> i need BILLIONS
[13:24:57] <cadabrax> stennowork: that's subjective, doesnt work for me but might for you. otoh, I enjoy spending money on stuff you might not see the point. it's not about that, it's about understanding the financial and spending choices you make and how they impact how much you have to work
[13:25:58] <cadabrax> a new car every three years means I'd have to work an extra 10 years to retire and keep affording that (an example, dont know the exact numbers). I dont love cars so it's not worth 10 more years of work to me so fuck that I'll use my bicycle or buy a used card. but maybe you like cars and it's well worth it to you. you decide.
[13:26:07] <stennowork> gotcha
[13:28:27] <cadabrax> not saying it's not nice to have a new car every three years, or a new macbook as they come out. but it might not be nice *enough* to justify working several years more. anyway, that's the fallacy people fall in I think when accepting that you need to work 30-40 years before you can be allowed to retire.
[13:28:45] <cadabrax> it's not necessary but it goes against the way our society works and the values we are brain washed with
[13:28:55] * cadabrax steps off soapbox
[13:33:51] <storkme> or just have kids, and watch your plans go out the window
[13:35:35] <stennowork> hah
[13:35:45] <stennowork> yeah with kids, the perspective is a very different one anyway
[13:37:33] <cadabrax> yeah idk, I have none (that I know of) so can't really tell
[13:39:03] <Pyrrhus666> cadabrax, I'm generally pretty frugal (don't have a car, don't buy a lot of crap, generally try to buy for life if possible), but I'm nowhere near able to retire
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[13:39:54] <Pyrrhus666> I do have low fixed costs because I've put a lot of money in my own pile of bricks and thus have a low mortgage, but still...
[13:40:59] <cadabrax> well, tomorrow is not the same as within 10-15 years. that's still much sooner than 40 years
[13:41:20] <Pyrrhus666> I'm 50 already though :P
[13:41:31] <cadabrax> ah you're screwed then hahaha
[13:41:51] <Pyrrhus666> nah, I'll be dead before the real shit starts ;)
[13:42:27] <cadabrax> good for you? :D
[13:43:24] <Pyrrhus666> I tend to think so ;) although living through the early stages of complete societal collapse would be interesting ;)
[13:44:32] <pupskuchen> Pyrrhus666: no worries, when the apocalypse comes, #angularjs will be there to protect the old man Pyrrhus666
[13:44:43] <Pyrrhus666> thx pupskuchen  ;)
[13:44:44] <z16> I want to handle PDF upload, but I want to enable a preview, so the user would select a file, then I'd show it in an `<embed>` or something... would that work? I do the file select with an `<input type="file"/>`, but not sure how I can embed the result of that dialogue
[13:45:03] <z16> It's for PDF files only
[13:45:13] <z16> And the native browser preview would be fine
[13:52:31] <Pyrrhus666> https://usefulangle.com/post/20/pdfjs-tutorial-1-preview-pdf-during-upload-wih-next-prev-buttons
[13:53:27] <ilhami> If I just had millions of Euro :D
[13:59:44] <icebox> pupskuchen: thanks... I am in the  same club ;)
[14:00:03] <pupskuchen> :D
[14:00:36] <Pyrrhus666> 2 old geezers protected by a horde of young nerds :P
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[14:03:21] <pupskuchen> quick! we need more observables!
[14:05:59] <icebox> ;P
[14:13:40] <SargoDarya> pupskuchen: Observe or gtfo
[14:14:14] <stennowork> quis custodiet ipsos custodes
[14:14:37] <pupskuchen> "The Great Observer" now in your theater!
[14:14:51] <stennowork> Big Observer is watching you
[14:15:00] <Pyrrhus666> 1984, rigth
[14:15:35] <Pyrrhus666> also tap'ping all your data
[14:16:53] <pupskuchen> :D
[14:17:06] <pupskuchen> so, just brought a project to 100% test coverage
[14:17:58] <Pyrrhus666> achievement unlocked !
[14:19:48] <pupskuchen> well, usually all our projects sit at 100% test coverage, this one didn't because we had to hurry up at the time
[14:21:13] <Pyrrhus666> achievement already unlocked some time ago !
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[14:21:27] <storkme> nice
[14:21:57] <pupskuchen> :D
[14:22:07] <storkme> how do they measure test coverage
[14:22:29] <pupskuchen> it's a karma plugin
[14:22:49] <pupskuchen> https://www.npmjs.com/package/karma-coverage-istanbul-reporter
[14:23:32] <storkme> does it somehow instrument your code to test if every statement is executed at least once while running a suite of tests?
[14:25:27] <pupskuchen> tbh I don't know the exact details, the readme says it doesn't perform the instrumentation itself but only reports about it
[14:25:59] <pupskuchen> but afaik the coverage is determined by checking if a statement is executed, yes
[14:26:39] <pupskuchen> I skipped lunch and I'm beginning to regret it
[14:28:27] <stennowork> i have to skip lunch today because i will go to a restaurant with my parents tonight
[14:28:34] <stennowork> so i just had breakfast instead
[14:28:40] <Pyrrhus666> I haven't eaten since last evening
[14:28:52] <Pyrrhus666> (on purpose, I can afford it)
[14:29:23] <ray02> no for me is almost impossible to  do this kind of stuff
[14:29:33] <pupskuchen> :D
[14:29:43] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, you get used to it very quickly
[14:29:44] <storkme> i hope they're paying
[14:29:44] <ray02> i think my body is nod made for not eat
[14:29:50] <pupskuchen> I'll get something on my way home soon
[14:30:03] <ray02> pupskuchen:  lucky guy :D
[14:30:04] <stennowork> ray02, no ones' body is :P
[14:30:14] <pupskuchen> #truth
[14:30:19] <ray02> stennowork:  so why force nature ? :D
[14:30:40] <stennowork> well if i eat something now i wont be able ot eat much at the restaurant
[14:30:54] <stennowork> and i want to eat a lot at the restaurant because the food there is awesome (hopefully)
[14:31:05] <Pyrrhus666> stennowork, no, your body has evolved to go without food for longer periods. hence storage in things like fat ;)
[14:31:08] <storkme> actually bodies are designed to cope without food (see: adipose tissue), it's just the whole willpower thing that is tricky
[14:31:26] <stennowork> well but only to a certain extend
[14:31:26] <Pyrrhus666> ^what they said
[14:31:38] <Pyrrhus666> yes. but 24 hours should be easy
[14:31:42] <stennowork> sure
[14:34:06] <Pyrrhus666> funny thing is, I've been doing fasting 2 days a week for a while, and already notice less problems with that gnawing feeling in your stomach that makes you snack, and feeling sated faster when eating a normal meal. so far, I like it.
[14:34:20] <ray02> fasting ?
[14:34:33] <Pyrrhus666> not eating
[14:34:39] <storkme> what kind of fasting do you do? like 2 low-calorie days per week?
[14:34:39] <stennowork> i think your stomach shrinks if you don't eat too much
[14:34:40] <FabioP> i only crave for junk food after 23 pm i don't know why
[14:34:49] <stennowork> so you get satiated earlier
[14:34:51] <pupskuchen> shit, I forgot about a meeting I have later
[14:34:58] <FabioP> i have iron willpower till 23 then i start the gremlin mode
[14:35:01] <Pyrrhus666> stennowork, it seems so
[14:35:17] <pupskuchen> lunch will have to wait at least one more hour :(
[14:35:25] <Pyrrhus666> FabioP, I still have that sometimes, but less than I used to ;)
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[14:36:04] <Pyrrhus666> all very unscientific n=1 proof, but hey, it works for me
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[14:38:00] <ray02> Pyrrhus666:  at one point you just stop eating during the day ?
[14:38:43] <storkme> i had a fast day yesterday, it was very un-fun
[14:40:20] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, it started as an experiment, but since I liked it, I just kept doing it.
[14:40:59] <Pyrrhus666> so now, twice a week, I skip breakfast and lunch, then eat a very light evening meal, and resume normal eating with the next breakfast
[14:41:20] <Pyrrhus666> (also no calories in that period, so water and black coffee)
[14:43:57] <ray02> Pyrrhus666:  interesting
[14:45:47] <storkme> i do a light breakfast and lunch and then skip the evening meal
[14:45:54] <storkme> maybe i'll try your method instead
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[14:59:57] <stennowork> i usually skip breakfast, have a full lunch, and then i usually get somethign small for dinner
[15:00:06] <stennowork> like a salad or a fruit bowl
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[15:08:03] <Pyrrhus666> my light meal on a fasting day is usually a small salad
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[15:10:19] <Paradisee> hello
[15:10:42] <Paradisee> is there a way in angular to create a custom element using a ngFor ?
[15:10:56] <Paradisee> i have a list of custom elements defined in a js script
[15:11:47] <Paradisee> i wanna do something like: <{{ foo }}></{{ foo }}>
[15:11:52] <Paradisee> which is illegal of course
[15:12:56] <storkme> is this to integrate some kind of external script with angular?
[15:27:34] <pupskuchen> do you know of a way to "hand over" a subscription from one observable to another? I want a BehaviorSubject to be updated by a http request and have the subscriber of the http request also get future updates via the subject -> serve request response and switch to subject
[15:28:32] <cadabrax> not sure what I am doing wrong. I'm building a search page, so I have my search form with validations etc in a component. then I already have a items-list component with an @Input() public items in it. In my search component's submit function, I go fetch my results and assign to this.results. Then on the searchcomponent template, I do <items-list [items]="this.results"></>. But I'm getting the error
[15:28:38] <cadabrax> that items isn't a known property of items-list, make sure it's in input, declarations etc.
[15:28:44] <cadabrax> my search component is part of a module imported in the app module
[15:29:01] <cadabrax> and items-list is just a component also imported in app.module so they should all be in scope, right?
[15:29:30] <cadabrax> with a <pre>{{this.results}}</> I can see the results
[15:30:00] <cadabrax> so I dont get why it's complaining about the unknown property
[15:34:05] <cadabrax> and unknown component
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[15:37:33] <FabioP> pupskuchen i didnt understand but maybe share() will suit you? can't you subscribe to your subject that will be the only one calling the http request?
[15:38:26] <Paradisee> solved
[15:38:45] <FabioP> how?
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[15:56:58] <lilalinux> I have some major trouble getting ng-bootstrap to run. I did npm install bootstrap @ng-bootstrap/ng-bootstrap --save; and when I do ng serve, I get tons of TS errors like "ERROR in node_modules/ at ng-bootstrap/ng-bootstrap/accordion/accordion dot d.ts(112,34): error TS1005: ';' expected."
[15:58:02] <lilalinux> I'm using angular 7.2.0, bootstrap 4.4.1 and "@ng-bootstrap/ng-bootstrap": "^5.2.1",
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[16:00:31] <pupskuchen> cya guys
[16:00:36] <Paradisee> how do you guys return an html from a directive?
[16:00:51] <Paradisee> i have this: <div ngxCustomComponent [componentName]="component"></div>
[16:01:03] <Paradisee> and i have to make sure it is rendered with my own html
[16:01:15] <Pyrrhus666> lilalinux, ng-bootstrap 5 is for angular 8. use version 4
[16:01:22] <lilalinux> thank you
[16:01:37] <Pyrrhus666> lilalinux, see https://ng-bootstrap.github.io/#/getting-started
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[16:12:55] <lilalinux> Pyrrhus666: do I need to load vendor.js in my index.html?
[16:13:31] <lilalinux> Errors are gone, but the navbar doesn't look like it should. It's just 2 links
[16:14:13] <Elarcis44> Turns out staying away from my main distraction at work doesn't make me more productive, it just makes me find other distractions
[16:14:34] <Elarcis44> Glad I got that figured out
[16:15:37] <Elarcis44> Also The Lounge is locking my nick even though I cannot connect anymore, somehow
[16:17:09] <SargoDarya> Elarcis44: Was wondering already where you went
[16:17:54] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis44, glad to have you back ;)
[16:19:15] <Pyrrhus666> lilalinux, you must not include any of the bootstrap javascript, only the css. ng-bootstrap replaces bootstrap's javascript
[16:19:51] <lilalinux> nice. does it also replace the bootstrap package, i.e. should I uninstall bootstrap?
[16:20:33] <Elarcis44> SargoDarya, I'm struck with a phase of inefficiency and demotivation, but cutting back on distraction just doesn't work
[16:21:15] <Elarcis44> SargoDarya, somehow I can't connect to The Lounge anymore, is that normal ?
[16:21:47] <Pyrrhus666> lilalinux, depends on your setup. I used to use bootstrap's scss directly in angular, so then it needs to be installed
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[16:24:04] <lilalinux> ah, looks like nav is only available since 5.2.0 :-/
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[16:24:58] <Pyrrhus666> so upgrade to angular 8 ;)
[16:25:46] <lilalinux> and node 12
[16:26:37] <Pyrrhus666> meh, that's largely irrelevant
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[16:37:13] <icebox> Elarcis4
[16:37:20] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
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[16:45:00] <ray02> hey icebox
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[16:59:18] <shimsh> morning :0
[16:59:24] <shimsh> :) *
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[17:01:13] <ray02> can i use import for import an image in the file .ts ?
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[17:03:04] <shimsh> i doubt ray02 , whatever you're trying to achieve, there's probably a better way
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[17:05:06] <ray02> ehh i would like to avoid to use require for import an image.ico in the project
[17:05:37] <ray02> https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/issues/6666
[17:05:43] <ray02> this is basically my problem
[17:05:54] <shimsh> i honestly don't know tbh
[17:06:14] <shimsh> i'm in the same boat as you
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[17:08:35] <ray02> happy to be alone in this forest
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[17:09:29] <shimsh> ray02: it can be quiet in here, someone will answer your question
[17:09:30] <ray02> shimsh: what have you tried so far ?
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[17:10:11] <ray02> shimsh: ah no, now is too late in the morning is the best moment to pose question
[17:10:12] <shimsh> ray02: tried? you mean how far have i got learning? i'm trying to build a useful directive, made some progress last night
[17:10:32] <shimsh> ray02: discussions encourage other people to chimein
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[17:10:38] <shimsh> chime in*
[17:10:42] <ray02> shimsh: sorry i thought you was having the same issues :D
[17:10:58] <shimsh> oh no, i just meant i am still learning
[17:11:23] <shimsh> i know typescript quite well now, but as for importing an asset, well, i've never encountered it, and seems alien tome
[17:11:27] <shimsh> to me*
[17:11:29] <ray02> shimsh: agree, but when it came the time to go home there are no conversions that keep you there :D
[17:12:09] <shimsh> it's morning in USA, people working
[17:12:33] <shimsh> about half of the traffic on freenode is probably from the USA
[17:12:56] <ray02> the channel here is almost eurpoe based
[17:13:11] <shimsh> still, it's afternoon in europe
[17:13:32] <ray02> yes, the afternoon time to go home
[17:13:35] <ray02> :D
[17:13:43] <ray02> trust me, i'm here :D
[17:13:48] <shimsh> eand relax, cook, take care of kids, wife etc
[17:14:19] <lilalinux> Where has response.json() gone?
[17:14:24] <lilalinux> in Angular 8
[17:15:04] <ray02> lilalinux:  as far i remember is no more need
[17:15:12] <lilalinux> mkay
[17:15:22] <ray02> is automatic
[17:15:32] <lilalinux> so, do you have to use .body()?
[17:15:50] <ray02> umm what you would like to do ?
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[17:16:42] <lilalinux> get the json
[17:17:33] <ray02> just use the response
[17:17:33] <lilalinux> ah nice, the hold pipe/map/json can be loet out
[17:17:41] <lilalinux> left
[17:17:46] <lilalinux> ray02: yes, thank you
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[17:17:52] <ray02> yay!
[17:19:26] <lilalinux> ok, migrated to Angular 8. Still no nav :-(
[17:19:52] <ray02> no nav?
[17:22:55] <lilalinux> ray02: https://pastebin.com/KtEPcRff
[17:23:09] <lilalinux> That shows up as 2 ordinary links
[17:23:27] <lilalinux> bootstrap blueish, but not really a nav
[17:23:48] <ray02> so the problem is that you are missing the css ?
[17:24:07] <ray02> or that they are not working for routing?
[17:24:19] <lilalinux> css
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[17:24:45] <ray02> ok so
[17:24:56] <ray02> are custom css or bootstrap css ?
[17:25:00] <lilalinux> it should look like that: https://ng-bootstrap.github.io/#/components/nav/overview
[17:25:15] <lilalinux> I'm using bootstrap for css and ng-bootstrap for js
[17:25:40] <lilalinux> "@ng-bootstrap/ng-bootstrap": "^5.2.1", "bootstrap": "^4.4.1",
[17:25:52] <lilalinux> css is included in styles.css
[17:26:41] <ray02> have you imported the things in the main module also?
[17:26:55] <ray02> like says the getting started guide ?
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[17:27:38] <shimsh> lilalinux: did you use the provided directives?
[17:27:43] <lilalinux> ray02: https://pastebin.com/TGh6EEma
[17:28:03] <lilalinux> only NgbModule
[17:29:05] <shimsh> lilalinux: can you use bpaste, im not a robot
[17:29:48] <lilalinux> shimsh: https://bpaste.net/ASIA
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[17:31:15] <shimsh> right, did you use the nav-link class?
[17:31:27] <shimsh> and put it directly on the anchor
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[17:33:29] <lilalinux> works now.
[17:33:48] <lilalinux> I copied an example from the official ngb docs and that's working now
[17:33:56] <lilalinux> thanks for watching
[17:34:36] <ray02> good job man
[17:34:55] <lilalinux> level up
[17:35:00] <ray02> eheh
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[17:38:40] <lilalinux> Coming from a vue/vuetify/vuex background, what store should I use with angular?
[17:39:01] <lilalinux> ngRx?
[17:39:02] <stennowork> ngrx
[17:39:22] <stennowork> is vuex vue + redux?
[17:39:42] <stennowork> seems to be unrelated to redux
[17:40:18] <lilalinux> vuex has state, mutations, actions, getters
[17:41:02] <stennowork> i guess the concept of side-loading state managers are pretty similar anyway
[17:41:10] <stennowork> so you should have no problem using redux/ngrx
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[17:45:51] <shimsh> stennowork: do you think the apollo cache is a replacement for a store?
[17:46:45] <stennowork> i don't see why a cache implementation would replace a side-loading store, no
[17:46:58] <stennowork> but i don't know much about the apollo store tbf
[17:47:14] <ray02> damn favicon
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[17:58:21] <ray02> never feel so useless
[17:58:36] <storkme> what's wrong
[17:59:27] <ray02> i have discovered that our set up for serving the app is stupid and not well supported by angular
[17:59:52] <ray02> the result is that for the asses  like image or of the damn favicon
[18:00:07] <ray02> i have to do some work around
[18:00:29] <ray02> the work around for the image is to use require
[18:01:05] <ray02> for the favicon i have to create a service that update the href later onece i have the link of the cdn
[18:02:55] <storkme> is that so crazy
[18:03:02] <ray02> agree
[18:03:20] <ray02>  https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/issues/6666
[18:03:20] <storkme> we have to do that in our apps, because they're white-label apps that support many customer instances
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[18:04:47] <ray02> and all this because we would like to have the assets in fake cdn
[18:05:06] <ray02> and put the index file on another serve
[18:05:29] <ray02> for the damn pleasure to have useless stuff
[18:05:33] <ray02> complicated
[18:05:52] <storkme> is it really that complicated
[18:05:56] <ray02> i would like to hit hard the person that propose
[18:06:02] <ray02> this idea
[18:06:09] <ray02> 3 years ago
[18:06:12] <lilalinux> good by ng-bootstrap, hello material!
[18:06:35] <stennowork> yay
[18:06:41] <ray02> storkme: eh as far i understand yes
[18:06:41] <stennowork> a sensible decision
[18:06:49] <ray02> ponderated :D
[18:07:02] <ray02> in 5 minutes
[18:07:04] <ray02> :D
[18:07:43] <lilalinux> how do you do layout grid system with angular?
[18:07:58] <ray02> with the good old css no?
[18:08:11] <storkme> doesn't material have its own grid system?
[18:08:16] <lilalinux> dunno
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[18:08:26] <Ben_1> hi guys
[18:08:35] <Ben_1> is there a reason why ng serve does not watch libraries?
[18:09:31] <ray02> Ben_1: usually because you didn't imported well
[18:10:20] <ray02> storkme:  no afaik
[18:10:55] <Ben_1> ray02: I've imported the module to my application module and inside my component I've imported the specific component from the library.
[18:10:58] <storkme> idk if this is designed for doing layouts but it exists https://material.angular.io/components/grid-list/overview
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[18:12:50] <ray02> storkme: ah yes, you hare right
[18:12:52] <ray02> sorry
[18:13:04] <shimsh> Ben_1: so you've imported the component twice?
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[18:14:10] <Ben_1> shimsh: no, I've imported the library components module to my application module. Then I imported the component from this module to my application component which should use the library component
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[18:14:58] <Siecje> No Angular 9 blockers https://github.com/angular/angular/milestone/98
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[18:15:38] <ray02> ah!\
[18:15:46] <ray02> so it means it will arrive soon?
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[18:16:48] <shimsh> i don't understand Ben_1, it's not clear
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[18:18:58] <Ben_1> in app.module.ts I imported the lib component module to my app.module.ts 'import { NavbarModule } from 'utils-lib';' and @NgModule({ declarations: [ ], imports: [ NavbarModule ] ....
[18:19:53] <Ben_1> in app.component.ts I import 'import { NavbarComponent } from 'utils-lib';' to access NavbarComponent.
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[18:20:35] <Ben_1> my problem is that if I apply changes to my library navbar.component.ts or navbar.component.less, ng serve does not recognize these changes and does not update the browser tab
[18:20:46] <Ben_1> shimsh: was that a better explanation?
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[18:23:01] <shimsh> Ben_1: i don't know why it doesn't detect changes, but you don'tneed to import the component
[18:23:21] <shimsh> if the module is being imported into the app module, or the containing module, then that's enough
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[18:23:40] <shimsh> Ben_1: you are using Linux?
[18:24:22] <Ben_1> shimsh: yes
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[18:24:31] <Ben_1> Fedora30 with Cinnamon
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[18:25:21] <shimsh> Ben_1: there are limitations with th enumber of files that can be watche dat any one time
[18:25:30] <shimsh> if you understood that
[18:25:34] <shimsh> you can change it though
[18:25:36] <shimsh> 1 sec
[18:25:46] <storkme> are you compiling your module after making changes
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[18:26:15] <shimsh> ng serve automatically watched, no?
[18:26:21] <shimsh> watches the directory
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[18:26:26] <Ben_1> shimsh: yes I could imagine, but there are just a few files at the moment. It's a simple project, neither 1000 ts files nor 1000 less files.
[18:26:57] <Ben_1> storkme: at the moment I have to do that, but usually they should be watched without manually recompile them
[18:27:00] <shimsh> but vscode, and other programs also watch filesystem stuff
[18:27:09] <storkme> how exactly is your `utils-lib` project set up?
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[18:27:39] <shimsh> Ben_1: `echo 'fs.inotify.max_user_watches=524288' >> /etc/sysctl.conf`
[18:27:55] <shimsh> might need to restart the machine
[18:28:02] <Ben_1> storkme: this question is too abstract :P what exactly do you want to know? the lib project is a subdirectors of the 'projects' directory of my application
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[18:29:00] <Ben_1> shimsh: this value is already configured in this file
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[18:29:32] <storkme> so it's an angular module, Ben_1 ? not something in your projects `node_modules` folder?
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[18:32:39] <storkme> I've not used these subprojects before, no idea how they're meant to work. some kind of angular cli magic I guess
[18:35:11] <Elarcis44> Ben_1, just to be sure, you compile your utils lib separately and then restart ng serve ?
[18:35:18] <Ben_1> storkme: It's a self created angular library. The source code of this library is located in ./projects/utils-lib/
[18:36:16] <Ben_1> Elarcis44: At the moment yes. But the question is why is this needed? the library is simply a subproject of my application, ng serve should recognize changes without recompiling the library manually
[18:36:38] <Elarcis44> Because the point of using a library is to compile it only once and reuse it in several projects without compiling it again
[18:36:58] <Ben_1> Elarcis44 yes in production environment, but not in devel phase
[18:37:21] <Elarcis44> Especially in dev phase
[18:37:54] <Ben_1> In the devel phase the library could be extended constantly because you could move functions to that library which could be used in project1 and project2
[18:38:30] <Ben_1> Elarcis44: why especially in dev phase? When I develop two projects which should use the library, the chance is higher that the lib is modified than in production environment
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[18:38:38] <storkme> Ben_1: maybe this will help https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/wiki/stories-create-library#why-do-i-need-to-build-the-library-everytime-i-make-changes
[18:38:51] <Elarcis44> Yup, I agree that's one use case, though it's not the one Angular is targetting
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[18:39:35] <Ben_1> storkme: ah ok, so I have to run the build command together with watch and then it should recognize changes
[18:39:37] <Ben_1> let me try
[18:39:41] <storkme> it looks like it
[18:41:04] <Ben_1> storkme: yes it works pretty well! thank you very much that was the solution :)
[18:41:34] <storkme> no problem! glad you got it sorted
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[18:55:38] <Ben_1> is there a way to include a template programmatically inside of a component?
[18:56:18] <Ben_1> I would like to create a component with a arbitrary svg as template. The path to the svg should be passed as data binding
[18:58:24] <ray02> Ben_1: but in phase of develop or in the app run time?
[18:58:55] <Ben_1> ray02: both
[18:59:59] <ray02> you can create a schematics
[19:00:32] <ray02> that allow you to create custom template with  ng generate
[19:01:25] <ray02> in run time don't know well
[19:01:41] <Ben_1> ray02: mh very inconvenient. Then for every SVG I want to use I have to create a new generic or at least update the schematic.
[19:02:03] <storkme> i mean you can have a dynamic path elements, and bind to properties of them
[19:02:16] <Ben_1> ray02: you're right probably at runtime would be a bad idea
[19:03:17] <Ben_1> I will take a deeper look into tomorrow, now it's time for dinner. :3
[19:03:17] <Ben_1> thanks for your help guys! have a nice evening!
[19:03:20] <ray02> yea storkme has right you can have a component with an path as input and then in the template you have your generic svg
[19:04:00] <ray02> and than you can call 12000 times with different path
[19:04:11] <ray02> have good evening folks
[19:04:16] <ray02> i'm out too
[19:04:44] * ray02 drops the mic
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[19:46:40] <murd0c> hi
[19:47:26] <murd0c> https://material.angular.io/components/sidenav/overview is the sidenav and basic drawer example working or is just me?
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[20:17:04] <steveoh> hey folks. i'm having a hard time making a component render items from a service
[20:17:33] <steveoh> i can console.log that the data is available in my subscription but the component will not render them
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[20:18:09] <steveoh> i don't quite follow why the component isn't figuring out that it changed and rerendering...
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[20:22:21] <steveoh> i just got it to work by switching to the straight observable instead of subscribing in the ngOninit
[20:22:45] <steveoh> but i get two errors that my object is null when it tries to render before the http request has completed
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[21:34:40] <murd0c> hi!
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[22:04:18] <murd0c> anybody uses Angular Material? I have a question
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