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[03:36:38] <Mauritius_dalnet> hello
[03:37:04] <Mauritius_dalnet> is there any way to declare "ag-grid" without going through app.component.ts ?
[03:37:31] <Mauritius_dalnet> i've followed the 5 mins step by step and now i cannot call it from within my component html
[03:37:55] <Mauritius_dalnet> says: "Can't bind to 'rowData' since it isn't a known property of 'ag-grid-angular'."
[03:38:07] <Mauritius_dalnet> kindly help
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[09:11:09] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
[09:11:10] <icebox> hello folks
[09:11:14] <Pyrrhus666> morning icebox
[09:11:15] <icebox> ;)
[09:12:13] <SuperTyp> gm all
[09:12:19] <Pyrrhus666> morning SuperTyp
[09:13:19] <SuperTyp> how is it going?
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[09:14:59] <Pyrrhus666> I´m going to talk to people about a job this afternoon... not an interview yet, just an informal meeting :_
[09:15:41] <Pyrrhus666> still, quite excited and a bit nervous
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[09:18:01] <SuperTyp> what kind of job is it?
[09:18:05] <SuperTyp> And good luck ;)
[09:18:13] <SuperTyp> resp. have fun
[09:18:42] <Pyrrhus666> two actually, they´re looking for both frontend and backend. frontend in angular, backend is php, so both fit.
[09:19:39] <Pyrrhus666> and thx :)
[09:19:46] <SuperTyp> simfony BE?
[09:20:26] <SuperTyp> (I pretend to know php good but our BE devs used a php symfony BE so I just throw in some terms)
[09:21:12] <Pyrrhus666> yes, symfony. also stuff like doctrine (the biggest php orm)
[09:21:41] <SuperTyp> nice
[09:21:53] <SuperTyp> good catch SuperTyp
[09:22:12] <Pyrrhus666> biggest gap om my side : they do tdd and ci/cd, and I have little to none experience there
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[09:22:48] <SuperTyp> will you have to manage the ci/cd?
[09:22:53] <SuperTyp> tdd is pretty easy to learn imo
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[09:23:25] <SuperTyp> do you need my slides? about it? :P
[09:23:30] <Pyrrhus666> not sure, actually. and yes, I´m sure I can do it given the chance ;)
[09:23:42] <Pyrrhus666> haha, dunno, is it informative ? :P
[09:24:33] <SuperTyp> yep
[09:24:34] <SuperTyp> but in german
[09:25:17] <Pyrrhus666> I can read some german, but technical german might be a step too far ;)
[09:25:47] <SuperTyp> I see
[09:27:16] <Pyrrhus666> if you got them online anyway I´ll still give it a go though
[09:33:41] <SuperTyp> PM
[09:34:21] <Pyrrhus666> check :)
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[09:43:24] <Elarcis> Hey.
[09:43:33] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis
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[09:48:39] <icebox> Elarcisç hey
[09:49:29] <Elarcis> icebox? hello :P
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[09:52:45] <Pyrrhus666> if internal fb projects migrate from flow to ts, is flow doomed ?
[09:52:54] <SuperTyp> gm Elarcis
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[09:56:25] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: gm SuperTyp
[09:56:37] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: if Google is using Go instead of TS, is Angular doomed? :P
[09:57:06] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, yes, of course ;)
[09:58:09] <Pyrrhus666> seems there´s generally a lot of flow in the direction of ts. lately, at least.
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[10:04:13] <Pyrrhus666> not surprised
[10:05:04] <Elarcis> me neither, but I'm impressed by how far ahead it is, regarded to other popular editors
[10:06:36] <Elarcis> *relative, not regarded
[10:06:38] <Elarcis> duh
[10:06:58] <Pyrrhus666> vscode is king of js/ts, but is for me still not a valid choice for my other stuff, unfortunately.
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[10:18:17] <jlebrech> how is php a text editor lol
[10:19:19] <SuperTyp> yea lol
[10:20:10] <jlebrech> by that logic C is a text editor :)
[10:24:05] <jlebrech> pycharm looks nice, i was playing with pygame last night might use it too
[10:30:05] <Elarcis> I'm not entirely convinced by JS-to-native, but the tools showcased definitely are impressve
[10:30:32] <Elarcis> jlebrech: I found PyCharm and Webstorm to be unbearably slow on my work computer
[10:31:36] <Elarcis> nativescript is definitely something I'd like to try, should I ever want to make a mobile app
[10:31:48] <Pyrrhus666> ^^ yeah :)
[10:32:31] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: yeah about NS, or slowness?
[10:33:13] <Pyrrhus666> nativescript. I´ve taken a look at it before, and it seems the best/nicest solution aside from going native.
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[10:35:42] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: definitely seems easier than xamarin or cordova :P
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[10:46:03] <SargoDarya> Hey folks
[10:46:12] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
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[10:50:45] <Elarcis> Hello SargoDarya ^^
[11:01:19] <SuperTyp> hi SargoDarya
[11:01:27] <SargoDarya> How's it going fellas?
[11:01:52] <pdobrogost> Hi all!
[11:05:06] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, have my first meeting about a job lined up this afternoon. excited and nervous :)
[11:05:15] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: clusterfuck of a code aside, you don't access the controller with the ctrl arg
[11:05:22] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: you use it with the scope arg
[11:05:45] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: 'ctrl' (or rather, the 4th param in your link function) matches your directive's require option
[11:06:03] <Pyrrhus666> heh. plunkr fails miserably on ff. nice testing there.
[11:06:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: no issue for me :o
[11:06:47] <Pyrrhus666> I get nothing but console errors. even with blocking disabled.
[11:07:37] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: also: your controller function can't get elemn and attrs injected, this is the role of the link function
[11:07:50] <jlebrech> Elarcis: good old SciTe is good for py i think
[11:08:01] <SuperTyp> Would you say Angular is a MVC Framework?
[11:08:09] <SuperTyp> or is there another term that suits it better?
[11:09:31] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: in this case, tableController matches the scrollableTable require, line 209
[11:09:58] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: I'm not getting "self" attrs but attrs of "parent" controller which are made visible by setting them in the scope.
[11:11:29] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: are you trying to reimplement a scrollable table, or just trying something custom?
[11:12:09] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: You can do it :)
[11:12:11] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: I'm trying to add some functionality there but can't get even this much working
[11:12:31] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, we´ll see ;)
[11:12:39] <SuperTyp> HI SargoDarya
[11:12:46] <SargoDarya> Heyo SuperTyp
[11:13:14] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: There, they refer to parent controller's by "tableController" and it works.
[11:14:05] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: to be honest, I haven't dealt with code like that in 4 years, I'd recommend using a component-based approach instead since you're using 1.6
[11:14:51] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: using require is one of those things that slowly slid into the "risky practice" realm over the years
[11:15:29] <pdobrogost> Ok, but why do you think scope is undefined inside ctrl.getMyAttr()?
[11:17:43] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: ^
[11:18:03] <jlebrech> i'd tidy up a few bugs and maintain the old code base then rewrite it all in Vue, it depends on existing code size tho.
[11:19:36] <SargoDarya> jlebrech: Vue master race \o/
[11:19:42] <SuperTyp> Would you say Angular is a MVC Framework?
[11:19:44] <SuperTyp> or is there another term that suits it better?
[11:19:54] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: MV*
[11:19:59] <jlebrech> directives need to burn, switch those to components at the very least
[11:20:01] <Elarcis> or MVW
[11:20:10] <SargoDarya> I'm literally just waiting for my ban here for the heresy
[11:20:38] <jlebrech> MadnessVitriolCurses
[11:20:51] <jlebrech> Vue is just the
[11:20:58] <jlebrech> real angularjs 2
[11:21:07] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: What do you mean?
[11:21:14] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: I concur what my pals said, directives should only be used for atomic DOM interactions nowadays, you're speaking the AngularJS equivalent of old-french in XXIst century's US.
[11:21:56] <jlebrech> Directives are like using hotglue in an electronics project
[11:22:25] <SuperTyp> Component Based Architecture is better right?
[11:22:30] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: look at my code, then at yours, I changed a major thing
[11:24:28] <Elarcis> jlebrech: directives are the basis for AngularJS's almost-everything, but it's like manually soldering dozens of transistors when a microprocessor is proposed to you
[11:25:33] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: Ok, with the fix scope is not undefined anymore, thanks. Now, scope.myAttr is, why?
[11:25:51] <jlebrech> Yep, jumpwires
[11:26:27] <SuperTyp> ping
[11:26:46] <Pyrrhus666> pong
[11:26:47] <jlebrech> when AngularJS fails as a framework you're then told, it's "a framework to build frameworks dummy"
[11:27:03] <SuperTyp> Pyrrhus666: thx, thought Imma ghost for a sec
[11:27:30] <Pyrrhus666> SuperTyp, you´re just asking difficult questions, it seems ;)
[11:27:51] <SuperTyp> prolly
[11:28:02] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: As I have '<main-dir my-attr="xxx">` in html and scope: { myAttr: '=' } in the code I would suspect that scope.myAttr should be 'xxx'.
[11:29:44] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: when you use =, it is expected that xxx is an expression, not a hardcoded string
[11:31:24] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: ok, thanks
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[11:42:02] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: Thanks a lot!
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[11:44:24] <berz3rk> morniNG
[11:44:43] <SuperTyp> gm berz3rk
[11:45:03] <berz3rk> i duno, i somehow fcked up one way data binding
[11:45:22] <Elarcis> berz3rk: how do you mess up something like that
[11:46:59] <berz3rk> theres a state
[11:47:04] <berz3rk> when my checkbox says "Yes"
[11:47:08] <berz3rk> but the checkbox is NOT checked
[11:47:10] <berz3rk> how can that be?
[11:47:21] <berz3rk> value is not updated?
[11:47:38] <berz3rk> i rather make [checked] instead of [value] ?
[11:48:16] <berz3rk> doesnt work either
[11:48:16] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: Although I'm not sure why you have "my-input" attribute declared also in <sub-dir> as in the original case it was defined only in <main-dir> and the task was just to get its value inside <sub-dir>?
[11:48:17] <berz3rk> rly werid
[11:48:45] <berz3rk> dreiw
[11:49:17] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: because it is now considered good practice, if you want an input to "flow down" the children of a component, to declare it explicitely in the parent rather than have the children manually require it
[11:49:51] <berz3rk> can u help
[11:50:00] <berz3rk> can u think inside the [check]box
[11:50:04] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: the mindset is "always have the container decide what the children get", and not the opposite, this way the flow of data and logic is always down the DOM, and not two-ways
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[11:50:57] <pdobrogost> react style :)
[11:51:15] <Elarcis> berz3rk: why bother with (click) when you have (change) begging for that?
[11:51:17] <pdobrogost> By input you mean also "configuration"?
[11:51:29] <berz3rk> isnt that the same?..
[11:52:18] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: yes. see components as functions. they take parameters in, get events out. It is desirable to have as few side effects as possible, aka stuff that doesn't go through inputs and outputs
[11:52:36] <Elarcis> berz3rk: if it were the same, it would have the same name
[11:55:02] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: if you need "side effects" (caching data, making something available through the whole app, etc.) AngularJS services can be used to share data and logic without overloading inputs and outputs (or if it's even too complicated to synchronise data between parent and children via inputs/outputs)
[11:55:19] <berz3rk> Elarcis: it still doesnt have the effect i n33d
[11:55:41] <berz3rk> theres for example a state when theres literaly standing "YES" after the checkbox but its not checked
[11:55:42] <berz3rk> like bruh
[11:56:08]
<Elarcis> pdobrogost: even if you know a bit of AngularJS, I recommend you check out the official tutorial, it evolved a lot these years and now fully explains how to get the better from components https://docs.angularjs.org/tutorial/step_03
[11:56:13] <berz3rk> simple condition, map inputData['id'] == 1 == true and else false (unchecked)
[11:56:14] <Elarcis> *the best
[11:56:31] <berz3rk> Elarcis: how can this be so hard
[11:56:44] <berz3rk> Elarcis: this is realy hard programming rite
[11:56:56] <Elarcis> berz3rk: not sure the answer would make you feel better :P
[11:57:07] <berz3rk> :-)
[11:57:31] <berz3rk> i make a STACKBLITZ(krieg)
[11:58:25] <Elarcis> berz3rk: can we see it? is it "working"?
[12:06:29] <berz3rk> Here guys
[12:06:37] <berz3rk> theres a textbox with ngmodel onto the value and a checkbox
[12:06:45] <berz3rk> its not working as intended (yet)
[12:07:02] <berz3rk> i cant use ngmodel because ngmodel uses true/false. I need 1/0 tho for my data model
[12:07:46] <berz3rk> if you modify bottom text you notice it doesnt check or uncheck properly, and initial state is not working as intented as well
[12:09:26] <berz3rk> Elarcis: .: - T_T - :.
[12:09:33] <pdobrogost> Elarcis: Thanks for tips
[12:10:58] <Pyrrhus666> berz3rk, you initialize MYVALUE as 1, so the initial state is wrong. also : wtf are you even trying to do ?
[12:11:14] <berz3rk> what do you mean the inital state is wrong
[12:11:29] <berz3rk> there can be a state with 1
[12:11:38] <berz3rk> All I want is ngmodel for MYVALUE
[12:11:51] <berz3rk> but ngmodel for checkbox is true/false, my values i need is 1/0 tho.
[12:12:08] <berz3rk> so it takes 1/0 converts it to true/false (caus javascript)
[12:12:13] <berz3rk> but writes back true and false instead of 0 and 1
[12:12:27] <berz3rk> isnt that obvious )
[12:12:28] <Pyrrhus666> the (change) is not fired on initial render. so the checkbox is not checked. also, you´re going about it wrong, imho
[12:13:11] <berz3rk> i thought [value] would be the thing for that
[12:13:15] <berz3rk> or is that [checked] ?
[12:13:20] <berz3rk> checked doesnt give me the right effect either
[12:15:11] <Pyrrhus666> [checked] is an input binding, it doesn´t work two-ways. reap the mat-checkbox api and use the properties and methods provided.
[12:17:00] <Pyrrhus666> *read, although reap is quite applicable too
[12:18:39] <berz3rk> hm
[12:18:49] <berz3rk> i dont even want it two ways because the format is wrong
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[12:26:42] <berz3rk> I think i got it working now
[12:26:50] <berz3rk> forgot i had to send event after i change the value not before
[12:27:13] <berz3rk> wasnt in the example tho
[12:27:32] <berz3rk> If anyone is curios
[12:28:16] <berz3rk> theres a syntax tho to access the curent elemtn right?
[12:28:20] <berz3rk> so i dont need #check ?
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[12:53:07] <trampi> ello!
[12:53:58] <Pyrrhus666> afternoon trampi
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[14:18:44] <SuperTyp> on my other macbook I was able to switch windows of same application by pressing cmd + >/<
[14:18:48] <SuperTyp> when did this change?
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[14:21:57] <Pyrrhus666> no mac, no idea :)
[14:22:48] <SargoDarya> SuperTyp: Still works, but you gotta use the proper keyboard layout for it.
[14:23:01] <SuperTyp> which is?
[14:23:05] <SargoDarya> Works for me only with Cmd + ` on british layout
[14:23:23] <SuperTyp> yeah for me too using cmd + shift + `
[14:23:46] <SuperTyp> but I want it back to this bigger smaller icon key
[14:23:50] <SuperTyp> <>
[14:24:16] <SuperTyp> ah lol
[14:24:31] <SuperTyp> on the qerty layout keyboard this is the ` key
[14:24:49] <SargoDarya> My point
[14:24:59] <SuperTyp> thx bruh
[14:28:50] <berz3rk> mac os keyboard shortcuts r the worst
[14:29:03] <SuperTyp> yea you can't even change them
[14:29:03] <berz3rk> in general mac os is a piece of crap rly.
[14:29:03] <SuperTyp> lol
[14:29:17] <berz3rk> and i have a macbook myself
[14:30:12] <SargoDarya> I was a fan and I'm not anymore. They pulled so much shit it's incredible
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[14:30:25] <SargoDarya> Just use it for music production nowadays.
[14:30:39] <SargoDarya> And coding at work
[14:30:47] <SuperTyp> yea
[14:30:51] <SuperTyp> coding is easy with it
[14:31:17] <SuperTyp> well not impossible on windows but this whole PATH thing is so annoying imo
[14:31:57] <SargoDarya> I'd rather use Ubuntu
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[14:42:16] <mursu> why use ubuntu when you can just use debian
[14:51:04] <Elarcis> mursu: why eat pears when you can just eat apples :P
[14:51:23] <mursu> exactly!
[14:51:36] <mursu> I myself prefer the redhat oranges though
[14:52:21] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: I'd love to code on a Linux machine at work, but we're doing too much MS-friendly work for that to ever happen
[14:52:43] <mursu> ubuntu has some massive privacy concerns though
[14:53:02] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: and at home, I play video games too much for switching to Linux to stay permanent, everytime I just end up getting back to Windows because it's more convenient
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[14:54:57] <Elarcis> mursu: it does?
[14:55:18] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: tried a nativescript-vue playground earlier, this was fascinating!
[14:58:40] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, sounds cool :)
[14:59:06] <mursu> Elarcis: there was the thing with amazon and apparently they are going to start gathering more user info
[14:59:27] <mursu> nothing special when compared to ms
[14:59:49] <mursu> but pretty unique to the linux world
[15:00:02] <berz3rk> how can I reference the element im inside in template?
[15:00:27] <berz3rk> for example <myElement (click)="doSomething(myElement.checked)"/> ?
[15:00:37] <berz3rk> but without #myElement
[15:00:56] <Elarcis> berz3rk: you don't
[15:00:57] <Pyrrhus666> why would you do it without a viewchild ? that´s what it´s for
[15:01:17] <berz3rk> i dont need a viewchild
[15:01:24] <berz3rk> i dont do it in .ts file
[15:01:26] <berz3rk> i do it in template
[15:01:32] <Elarcis> berz3rk: because it's sufficiently ugly to want to do that, there's no built-in way to encourage it
[15:01:35] <berz3rk> its a oneliner
[15:01:56] <berz3rk> I saw before somewhere that theres a method to access the value of the element itself you are in..
[15:01:59] <berz3rk> $event.value maybe
[15:02:01] <berz3rk> i dont know
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[15:03:07] <berz3rk> no thats not what i mean hm
[15:03:13] <Elarcis> berz3rk: yes it is
[15:03:28] <Elarcis> berz3rk: read it all
[15:04:29] <Pyrrhus666> if this is still about the checkbox then imho you´re doing it wrong
[15:04:49] <berz3rk> hehe
[15:04:59] <berz3rk> or you are doing it slow
[15:05:13] <Elarcis> berz3rk: compared to just building a view-model, your strugge seems to have taken its timely toll
[15:05:20] <Elarcis> *struggle
[15:07:07] <Pyrrhus666> no, not slow. wrong.
[15:07:25] <Elarcis> on so many levels.
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[15:18:24] <exonity01> Hello!
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[15:20:06] <Pyrrhus666> afternoon exonity01
[15:20:29] <Elarcis> Hello, exonity01
[15:21:44] <exonity01> When you use i18n and you got some texts like "Submit", that are used on many places in the sourcecode. As I understand, I can use the same identifier for all the same texts. For example <span i18n="@@submit"></span> and <button i18n="@@submit"></button>.
[15:22:31] <exonity01> When I now want change the text to "Ok" instead of "Submit" i have to change the language file and everything is fine. All places with this text got changed.
[15:23:18] <exonity01> That my code gets better "readble" I'd like to use <span i18n="@@submit">Submit</span>
[15:23:55] <exonity01> Am I right that when I do this I must change the Language file and all places?
[15:24:45] <Pyrrhus666> afaik not. the @@submit identifier already exists, no ?
[15:27:01] <anli> Is <ng-include src="'addressform.html'" ng-init="name = 'Mike'"></ng-include> a smell?
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[15:27:51] <gongor> Hi all :-) Has anyone successfully defined a custom palette for use in an Angular Material theme? I'm struggling to find a decent reference to learn how to define my colors properly
[15:28:40] <exonity01> Hmmm so you dont add the text in the html files, too?
[15:29:49] <Elarcis> anli: it totally is
[15:29:49] <exonity01> <h1 i18n="@@heading"></h1> and a reuse on another place <h2 i18n="@@heading"></h2> -> her I only have to change one place, the xlif file
[15:30:12] <exonity01> That is what you mean?
[15:31:21] <Elarcis> anli: if your HTML is well defined, this should be a component
[15:31:53] <anli> This will be mostly to avoid duplication on two well defined places
[15:32:10] <Elarcis> anli: components do that as well if used right
[15:32:15] <Elarcis> anli: what are you trying to do
[15:33:06] <anli> I have the same set of elements on two places, I want a parameter to control the action of a button, but the button fortunately is at the bottom, so I take it out from the template then
[15:33:14] <anli> s/on/in
[15:35:44] <Elarcis> anli: use a component with a '&' binding triggered when the button is clicked
[15:36:15] <anli> I understood that you would advise me to do that
[15:36:48] <Elarcis> anli: so I understand that you have something to object that would justify you using ng-include? :P
[15:37:06] <anli> The lack of reusability
[15:37:24] <Elarcis> anli: ironically ng-include reduces reusability drastically
[15:37:52] <anli> The demands of reusability is lacking
[15:38:03] <anli> ng-include meat the demands then
[15:38:07] <anli> meet
[15:38:09] <anli> lol
[15:38:11] <Elarcis> anli: both because it makes it harder to read, and because it couples the inside of the HTML to every component that uses it
[15:38:33] <Elarcis> anli: so, basically you asked here if your solution was a code smell, but didn't really care about whether it is or not?
[15:39:02] <anli> I asked about the ng-init part actually
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[15:39:17] <anli> Even if the quesiton was transferrable to a wider context
[15:40:29] <anli> If we compare smells then
[15:40:35] <Elarcis> anli: both ng-include and ng-init are to be banned
[15:40:51] <anli> yeah, that is self explanatory from what you already indicated
[15:40:52] <Elarcis> anli: ng-include is a way more pungeant smell than ng-init
[15:41:01] <anli> I only asked about ng-init
[15:41:18] <anli> Or at least tried to
[15:42:09] <Pyrrhus666> off, wish me luck
[15:42:21] <Elarcis> anli: that's like asking whether boiling fries is a good idea while also putting bleach in your water
[15:42:26] <qsrmvt> agh. is it even possible to require electron modules in angular? i'm trying to load settings via electron-store and send them through to the pages via the angular services, but i can't get it working
[15:42:29] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: good luck!
[15:43:05] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: that is going to require a bit more info, because all I caan answer right now is "yes"
[15:44:13] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: I can't access pastebin where I'm at
[15:44:38] <anli> Elarcis: Are boiling fries a good idea when I also put bleach in the water?
[15:44:40] <qsrmvt> ok... well what do you need to know?
[15:44:43] <anli> lol
[15:45:50] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: at the very least the content of the pastebin :(
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[15:47:14] <qsrmvt> well, i require electron-store, then instantiate it as the var 'store', then set up the angular services (module?), and where i would just put something like 'return avalue' i've got it returning data from store, but it errors out saying store is undefined
[15:47:30] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: (not copy pasted in this chan, can you please try a non-working plunkr?)
[15:47:37] <qsrmvt> a what?
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[15:50:27] <ray02> hey hey
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[15:50:32] <ray02> hello folks
[15:50:43] <trampi> hello ray02
[15:50:54] <siovene> Hello. I would like to conditionally add a provider to a component depending on an @Input on that component. Is it possible somehow?
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[15:51:26] <SuperTyp> siovene: provider?
[15:51:44] <SuperTyp> modules have providers not components
[15:51:54] <siovene> SuperTyp: you know how in a @Component declaration you can specify `providers` as well.
[15:53:04] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: yeah, sorry about that
[15:53:20] <SuperTyp> siovene: didn't know that, thx :)
[15:54:22] <qsrmvt> well, a large part is that all of this web programming is a totally new paradigm for me. i kind of want to just have a working ui and throw data at it, rather than becoming a web programmer.
[15:54:31] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: this sounds legit, what is not working? getting some undefined errors
[15:54:32] <Elarcis> ?
[15:54:56] <qsrmvt> Elarcis: unexpected identifier on line 15
[15:55:21] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: ah, yes. You need to surround your if condition with ()
[15:55:34] <qsrmvt> *facedesk*
[15:55:47] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: it happens :P
[15:55:55] <qsrmvt> sorry, i'm a python guy
[15:56:04] <qsrmvt> thanks for diagnosing that
[15:56:17] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: no worries, is it working now?
[15:56:31] <qsrmvt> yes, that made it work
[15:57:33] <qsrmvt> so, semi-related to the underlying problem... i've basically just imported a bootstrap theme, but it relies on jquery. i've read that using jquery in electron is bad... is this an exception case, or am i going to need/want to disable the juery stuff or rewrite it somehow...?
[16:00:16] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: I'm not an expert on Electron, but in a general way, mixing AngularJS and jQuery is a terrible idea (because AngularJS makes jQuery redundant). If you're really into bootstrap, you should be able to find some "wrapper library" for AngularJS+Bootstrap that already solves the issue for you, but my personnal recommendation would be to ditch it and use a CSS-only UI kit, like Bulma.
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[16:01:44] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: in a general way, jQuery is at best unneeded in 2019, at worst a constraint because jQuery plugins leads to more jQuery plugins, encircling you in a vicious circle of jQuery dependance
[16:02:06] <qsrmvt> i'll look into bulma, thanks. again, though, i'm really not aiming to become a web dev, i just want to have something to throw data at that won't befuddle my end user
[16:03:04] <qsrmvt> but maybe i'll just have to suck it up and learn web dev in the end, idk
[16:03:39] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: yep. In this case, I'll warn you: AngularJS was designed with .... well designers in mind, back in the day. It's easy to get started but at some point in the future, you're going to pass a threshold of complexity that'll confront you to a very steep learning curve
[16:05:46] <qsrmvt> wonderful :)
[16:06:07] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: if you're just wishing to dump data in a UI, you should be fine though
[16:08:06] <qsrmvt> well, let's throw something at the wall and see if it sticks, then :)
[16:08:29] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: don't hesitate to follow the official tutorial if you haven't already, it should give you the best mindset to do what you want without struggling with deprecated systems (AngularJS has a lot of them)
[16:09:00] <qsrmvt> well, most of the angular (afaik) has been written already in the maverix theme i'm using
[16:09:23] <qsrmvt> so unless i have to change over to bulma or something else, i'm hoping not to really have to change much
[16:09:56] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: oh well, yes keep to what was in the project already, it'll be easier I guess
[16:10:04] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: I thought this was a new app
[16:10:41] <qsrmvt> well, the app itself is i guess, but i'm building it into the maverix theme, which came pretty well written
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[16:11:06] <qsrmvt> my part will be organizing the pages/ui elements, pushing data to them, and gathering user responses to push back to the rest framework
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[16:15:40] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: as long as it works... but beware, I checked the repository, and the project seems to be quite old, with an old version of AngularJS and toolings. You may struggle with old APIs and we may not be able to always help you the best
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[16:18:25] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: it's not quite like python, where 3y old libs are fine, the JS world is only barely starting to stabilise, and 2015 was pretty wild for webdevs
[16:19:38] <qsrmvt> Hm
[16:19:59] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: don't worry, we're all in the same boat :P
[16:19:59] <qsrmvt> well before i get too deep, is there a good drop-in-and-go theme i could be using?
[16:20:13] <qsrmvt> something akin to maverix but more up to date?
[16:20:28] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: for bootstrap? I have no idea, I never used it beyond the default theme
[16:21:41] <qsrmvt> i don't care if it's bootstrap
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[16:22:10] <qsrmvt> i just don't want to have to muck around with writing css/less/excess/mess and then trying to wrangle elements and such
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[16:22:31] <qsrmvt> well defined elements and a handful of prewritten pages to show me how they go together would do just fine
[16:28:47] <qsrmvt> so bulma
[16:29:11] <qsrmvt> i guess i'll want to restart with a clean electron, fresh angular, and bulma, and start building it up little by little
[16:32:04]
<Elarcis> qsrmvt: that's a possibility. Also... it is a bit more technical and overkill (from my point of view), but the Ionic framework may be worth a look as well https://beta.ionicframework.com/docs/intro
[16:33:00] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: (it looks to be more suited to what you want to do, but less adapted to _how_ you'd prefer to work)
[16:33:21] <Elarcis> *seems to be
[16:36:29] <qsrmvt> interesting
[16:36:34] <qsrmvt> seems very phone oriented though
[16:37:57] <exonity01> Is it possible to use i18n in a typescript file?
[16:38:30] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: yeah, they say they're compatible with desktop but it seems like you're going to have a mobile-like UI.
[16:39:30] <Elarcis> qsrmvt: if you want freedom to experiment, maybe some barebone Electron+AngularJS+CSS lib is the best, even if a bit more involved
[16:40:24] <exonity01> hmm
[16:42:39] <berz3rk> i realy do hate javascript bruh
[16:43:14] <berz3rk> exonity01: i18n of course
[16:43:35] <exonity01> I can use my i18n strings in typescript?
[16:43:45] <exonity01> Do you have a link for me?
[16:43:50] <berz3rk> i dont know what you mean by i18n
[16:44:00] <berz3rk> internationalization is available
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[16:45:11] <exonity01> The i18n implementation of angular. Sorry ;D
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[16:47:27] <berz3rk> exonity01: wait a sec
[16:47:43] <exonity01> Thats what I mean
[16:48:38] <berz3rk> ngx translate is what i use
[16:49:09] <exonity01> Yes with ngx-translate it is possible
[16:49:13] <berz3rk> u can try the official way duno
[16:49:20] <berz3rk> duno of difference lol
[16:49:23] <berz3rk> in the end its all the same
[16:49:26] <berz3rk> take key and replace
[16:49:28] <exonity01> Not really
[16:49:36] <exonity01> JIT and not JIT
[16:49:36] <berz3rk> ?
[16:49:45] <berz3rk> at runtime u mean or n ot at runtime
[16:49:47] <berz3rk> or what
[16:49:50] <exonity01> Yes
[16:50:09] <berz3rk> and this thing u linked is not at runtime?
[16:50:29] <exonity01> I like that I got compile errors, when a translate key is missing
[16:50:35] <Elarcis> ^
[16:50:44] <berz3rk> xD
[16:51:02] <berz3rk> those definition shit makes me crazy
[16:51:13] <berz3rk> xml
[16:51:38] <exonity01> Elarcis: do you know if it is possible?
[16:51:59] <berz3rk> if it would be properly then it would have pot and po files
[16:52:01] <berz3rk> not custom xml stuff
[16:52:42] <berz3rk> xml translation bundle seems to be a standard too tho
[16:53:21] <Elarcis> berz3rk: it's not custom, xliff is a standard
[16:53:28] <berz3rk> just said that
[16:53:38] <berz3rk> just not familiar with that
[16:54:04] <exonity01> But I think its not possible to use it in typescript classes :-/
[16:54:16] <exonity01> Need translations in a service
[16:55:57] <Elarcis> exonity01: not sure about that, I've never used Angular's i18n but I don't seem to recall it works with TS code
[16:56:07] <berz3rk> i have problems with strings :D
[16:56:19] <berz3rk> not related to i18n 8)
[16:56:44] <Elarcis> berz3rk: what kind of problems?
[16:58:07] <berz3rk> when I display my string in an alert box
[16:58:10] <berz3rk> it displays fine
[16:58:16] <berz3rk> when I put it inside a <p> element its not visible
[16:58:36] <berz3rk> ok its too long and moved into next line
[16:58:38] <berz3rk> ok ok :D
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[17:23:41] <SuperTyp> bye all
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[18:05:14] <qsrmvt> Elarcis: so i've started over, clean electron+angular build, and i've pulled in the bulma css, but it isn't behaving as expected -- menus are always expanded, no rollover 'effects' on menus, etc. did i miss something simple perhaps?
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[19:41:32] <tharkun> Good $DAY I am strugling to make a perfectly working app runn behind nginx the only response I get is "Invalid Host header" can someone point me in the right direction? It seems my googling skills today have left me alltogether.
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[20:09:16] <ray02> i know the answert to this question but i have forget it
[20:09:21] <ray02> :p
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[20:09:35] <ray02> i had the same problem
[20:09:53] <ray02> the solution was to add a library
[20:10:25] <ray02> but i don't have the code with me
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[20:10:35] <ray02> i can tell you tomorrow :p
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[20:57:00] <tharkun> ray02: So nice of you but I am in a hurry since I have been at this for far too much time.
[20:58:03] <tharkun> If you happened to loosely record the google term you used I would start working on it. I ran out of questions for google.
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[21:02:49] <ray02> tharkun
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[21:03:35] <ray02> in particular this: Edit the following line in node_modules/webpack-dev-server/lib/Server.js (line 425): change to return true;
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[21:07:52] <ray02> tharkun have a good day
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[21:10:07] <tharkun> left without me saying thank you :(
[21:10:58] <Bacteria> get on the floor tharkun
[21:11:04] <Bacteria> everyone down
[21:14:31] <tharkun> Bacteria: Don't press you luck ;P
[21:14:44] <tharkun> BTW the line to be edited seems totally off.
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[23:56:10] <tharkun> FTR ng serve works fine, ng build gets the job done but ng build --prod fails with ERROR in src/app/login/login.component.html(25,31): : Property 'loading' does not exist on type 'LoginComponent'. character 31 is [ on the following line <button [disabled]="loading" class="btn btn-primary">
[23:56:30] <tharkun> Any suggestions would be appreciated. I am still running around in circles.
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