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[00:05:39] <ray02> qsrmvt of something that you have tryed to do so far
[00:06:32] <ray02> Bacteria from where are you?
[00:09:36] <ray02> have good day folks i'm out
[00:11:30] <qsrmvt> ray02: well, initially i was loading my settings in the renderer.js (hooked at the bottom of the html), then altering the dom. this worked for a single page.
[00:11:40] <qsrmvt> oh, you gone anyway
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[04:34:16] <Jojero> hi!
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[08:01:25] <max_at> good morning folks
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[08:32:44] <icebox> hey folks
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[08:41:17] <idev> hi.
[08:41:58] <idev> when i use "ng serve", does it run/use webpack?
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[08:45:52] <max_at> idev: yes
[08:45:55] <max_at> hi icebox
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[08:51:36] <icebox> max_at: hey
[08:57:34] <max_at> I wonder why it happens on some apps, that partial rebuild is not working. ng serve does not rebuild changed stuff, but the whole app upon changes .. which takes 50 secons for every change. not sure how to debug this
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[09:04:18] <idev> max_at, i don't have webpack configuration file in my project. if i create webconfig.config.ts manually, does it work?
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[09:13:47] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[09:23:57] <max_at> idev: out of angular.json ng serve is generating internally some webpack config out of it which is being used. you have most of standard features in webpack, only if you need something special like dev server settings, you would need to use a custom builder which would enable you to provide an extending webpack config
[09:25:27] <max_at> idev: but I guess it is quite rare cases that you really need a custom config. take a deep look at angular config docu first
[09:25:35] <max_at> Pyrrhus666: morning
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[09:35:08] <exonity01> Hello, I got a problem with using a library (ng-prime) that throws me the error, "Module not found: Error: Can't resolve '@angular/cdk/scrolling' in" can someone give me a hint, what I am doing wrong?
[09:38:25] <Pyrrhus666> exonity01, is @angular/cdk installed ?
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[09:42:47] <Elarcis> Good morning, meagre bags of wet flesh
[09:42:49] <exonity01> Hmm it wasn't, cause I didn't know that I have to install it manually. Perhaps they should add it to eheir documentation, or is it so common, that I have to import this module? For me it makes no sense :D
[09:43:01] <exonity01> their*
[09:44:12] <Pyrrhus666> it should probably be a dependency for ng-prime
[09:44:17] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis
[09:44:31] <exonity01> That was what I thought
[09:45:36] <Elarcis> exonity01: it indeed is strange that they didn't specify it as a dependency
[09:46:11] <Elarcis> exonity01: are you sure you installed ng-prime as a consumer, and not as a developer, somehow?
[09:46:28] <idev> max_at, i am trying to use 'exceljs' library and i get "Module not found: Errror: Can't resolve 'fs' in ...... node_modules\exceljs\dist\es5\csv error message..
[09:46:47] <exonity01> What do you mean? I installed it with "ng install ng-prime --save"
[09:46:48] <idev> Also I have same error for, Can't resolve 'stream' in...
[09:47:06] <Elarcis> exonity01: that may be your issue
[09:47:22] <exonity01> Hm?
[09:47:35] <idev> max_at, when i search for solution, i found that node: {fs: 'empty'} in webpack config
[09:47:55] <Elarcis> exonity01: ng install, and not npm install?
[09:48:13] <exonity01> npm
[09:48:18] <exonity01> sry.
[09:48:43] <exonity01> It is correctly added to package.json and package-lock.json
[09:49:17] <idev> do you have any experience with " Module not found: Errror: Can't resolve 'fs' in " error message?
[09:49:43] <Elarcis> idev: you're using a nodeJS-specific module in a browser environment
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[09:51:30] <dro> Hello, I have a Component "List" and a Component "Details" , when I click a button Show in the first component I must go to details with an Object
[09:51:50] <dro> Should I add a property in my service, and get it back from there ?
[09:51:57] <dro> or add it in localStorage?
[09:52:24] <dro> (the service is used by both components)
[09:52:30] <Elarcis> dro: use a component input.
[09:53:01] <dro> Elarcis: in fact i'm going to my "Details" component with router..
[09:53:08] <Elarcis> dro: depending on how your system is architectured, either pass a full object to the Details component, or just an ID so that it can fetch it
[09:53:17] <Elarcis> dro: so an ID in the route
[09:53:35] <Elarcis> dro: and then fetch your item usin that ID and your service
[09:53:36] <dro> Elarcis: what about adding the selected object in the service? its not a good idea?
[09:53:36] <SargoDarya> Morning fellas o/
[09:53:43] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
[09:54:03] <Elarcis> dro: the list of object should already be in the service, and your List component should merely be a consumer of it, not a provider
[09:54:07] <Elarcis> dro: if that's making sense
[09:54:48] <dro> Elarcis: Yes the List component is getting the list from the service
[09:54:59] <dro> but i'm selecting a single item in the component list
[09:55:31] <dro> so in that single object should be stored somewhere..
[09:55:48] <Elarcis> dro: it already is, since it's in the list stored in your service
[09:56:03] <Elarcis> dro: you just need to pass its ID in the route as a parameter
[09:56:19] <Elarcis> dro: so your Details component can independantly get it from the service
[09:57:14] <Elarcis> dro: the main advantage of doing like this is that if you enter the app directly by typing the URL of your Details component, it can load all of its data by itself, and not depend on what is stored by another component you hhaven't shown yet
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[10:18:14] <exonity01> Do you have experiance with nebular? I am thinking about using ng-prime or nebular
[10:18:43] <Elarcis> exonity01: I have experience with neither
[10:19:16] <exonity01> Which ui library do you prefer?
[10:19:56] <Pyrrhus666> ng-bootstrap
[10:21:16] <Elarcis> exonity01: we don't use any, we have our custom styles, but if I were to do a project on my own I'd rather use a CSS-only lib like Bulma and do my own components
[10:22:04] <Elarcis> exonity01: my big gripe with projects like bootstrap, prime-ng and such is that once your needs derive slightly from the proposed API, it gets a pain to work out something that is coherent with the rest of the lib
[10:22:17] <Elarcis> exonity01: whereas with homemade components you never have this issue
[10:31:58] <exonity01> Okay, thanks
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[11:01:44] <trampi> hello everyone!
[11:02:52] <Pyrrhus666> morning trampi
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[11:06:24] <Elarcis> Hello, trampi
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[11:22:31] <Elarcis> trampi: becoming a regular, I see :P
[11:25:11] <trampi> yes, I like it here :-) everyone is very welcoming. I am trying to give back. And it also makes home office less lonely ;-)
[11:25:50] <Elarcis> trampi: ah, home office, both the best and worst way to work
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[11:33:47] <anddam> need some node-help, I cloned my currently working angular project to a different server, I upgraded npm then tried npm install
[11:35:15] <anddam> the install does not complet with success, I can see two issues: 1. @angular-devkit/build-angular is depending on a node-sass release that is not provided and 2. a node-gyp action fails, and I have no clue how to answer this
[11:35:21] <anddam> s/answer/approach
[11:35:43] <anddam> these are my package.json and the actual error output, any hint *very* appreciated
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[11:38:16] <icebox> anddam: check node version
[11:38:46] <icebox> anddam: node version and node-sass version need to be compatible
[11:40:00] <Pyrrhus666> also : make: g++: Command not found
[11:40:07] <icebox> anddam: otherwise you need to build the package and you need to use a compiler
[11:40:12] <Pyrrhus666> if you want to build libsass, install a toolchain
[11:40:25] <icebox> ;)
[11:40:31] <Pyrrhus666> ;P
[11:40:58] <icebox> anddam: what is node version?
[11:41:20] <trampi> Elarcis: thats true :-)
[11:41:20] <icebox> anddam: you should use LTS version
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[11:44:38] <anddam> icebox: btw I just noticed gyp is failing since it does not find g++
[11:44:58] <anddam> I was checking my previous build log and I had the same issues in log
[11:45:18] <anddam> node is 11.1.0
[11:45:35] <anddam> how can I check compatibility with node-sass?
[11:45:57] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: yep, just noticed the missing g++
[11:49:11] <icebox> anddam: you should use LTS version
[11:50:41] <anddam> so 10.15
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[11:52:10] <ray02> hello hello
[11:52:14] <ray02> morning folks
[11:53:36] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[11:53:54] <icebox> ray02: hey
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[11:56:30] <ray02> how r you?
[11:56:38] <ray02> the day started well?
[11:57:07] <Elarcis> ray02: it kind of did, yes
[11:57:14] <ray02> yeah!
[11:57:35] <ray02> yesterday i started to follow a course about angular
[11:57:44] <XsiSec> Morning guys :)
[11:58:09] <ray02> some of you ever use it?
[11:59:28] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, not used it, but seen it mentioned. nrwl seems trustworthy enough ;)
[12:01:23] <ray02> yeah i mean i trust the instructor :d but for me was something totally new and i never hear about it
[12:03:01] <Pyrrhus666> although it sounds it´s typically only really useful in a big(ger) enterprise env
[12:03:35] <ray02> yeah sounds like that
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[12:05:18] <ray02> it' interesting see how many things there are to discover all the time
[12:06:24] <anddam> icebox: I see Centos 7, that I am using, has only 11.x in its repo, should I install it by hand?
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[12:13:31] <trampi> anddam: are you sure that nodejs is from the official centos repo and not from the nodesource one?
[12:15:29] <trampi> anddam: the last paragraph is also very relevant for your problem regarding node-sass, it states how to install the toolchain to compile node-sass et.al.
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[12:33:44] <anddam> trampi: I think it's from centos packages, node executable is /usr/bin/node
[12:34:04] <anddam> I am not familiar with nodesource but I guess it would install in /usr/local
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[12:36:50] <Pyrrhus666> I use that method for ubuntu myself
[12:37:38] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: and where does it install node?
[12:38:25] <Pyrrhus666> depends on your distro I guess. but that shouldn´t matter. also just noted trampi already posted that link :)
[12:38:52] <anddam> yes, I was just curious if my assumption was right
[12:39:20] <trampi> anddam: "I am not familiar with nodesource but I guess it would install in /usr/local" -> to be honest, I don't know
[12:39:43] <ray02> anddam i have solved all the proble related to node and npm on linux using nvm
[12:40:19] <Pyrrhus666> anddam, for ubuntu it installs in /usr.
[12:40:21] <ray02> could be over kill but it working perfectly
[12:41:21] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: mm in fact I see yum reports nodejs.x86_64 2:11.1.0-1nodesource
[12:41:52] <Pyrrhus666> anddam, just change the nodesource repo to the 10.x version then and reinstall ?
[12:42:54] <trampi> ^
[12:42:54] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: I'm looking into that
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[14:27:36] <anddam> installing node LTS did solve the issues while installing (I installed gcc as well)
[14:27:46] <anddam> now I wonder if this broke something in the app
[14:28:03] <Pyrrhus666> why ?
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[14:28:56] <idev> Elarcis, i am using exceljs.. it has also option for browser. but how can i specify that i use it for browser when using with angular?
[14:28:57] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: because I'm still very unfamiliar with this whole frontend ecosystem
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[14:29:36] <Pyrrhus666> anddam, so no visible problems or errors when building your app ?
[14:32:15] <SargoDarya> Does someone know if it's possible to clone a full git repo as npm dependency?
[14:33:23] <SargoDarya> trampi: That doesn't seem to help me for some reason.
[14:33:44] <SargoDarya> It installs the dependency but I only end up with the dist folder
[14:34:28] <trampi> then it sounds like the repo only has the dist folder in it. that is strange indeed!
[14:34:32] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: nope, I ran an ng build
[14:35:30] <SargoDarya> trampi: Nah, that's because in package.json there's a files array with only dist and lib specified
[14:36:26] <trampi> the repo you are referring to is not public, is it?
[14:36:49] <SargoDarya> I can hear the Heresy comments already.
[14:38:25] <SargoDarya> Yea, nevermind. The problem is that the lib directory is only cut for releases.
[14:42:43] <trampi> SargoDarya: haven't seen that behavior yet.
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[15:11:43] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, built on electron and small ? is that a thing nowadays ? ;)
[15:12:39] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: pffrt, it's only 68MB
[15:12:43] <Elarcis> :P
[15:13:02] <Elarcis> actually make that 178
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[15:14:37] <Pyrrhus666> so small as in 1996 floppies, but corrected for inflation. sounds about right.
[15:16:25] <Elarcis> haha
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[15:36:49] <Pyrrhus666> so it´s all ads and tracking. block those and 90% of the problem is gone :)
[15:37:06] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: Have a pi hole running at home. Best decision ever
[15:37:17] <Pyrrhus666> also, if kWh is a measure : kill bitcoin
[15:37:29] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: I more and more want to have one
[15:37:38] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: is the improvement really noticeable?
[15:37:44] <SargoDarya> Absolutely.
[15:37:52] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, I have a lowpower server that does that and more (old i3)
[15:37:54] <SargoDarya> You can run it off a Pi Zero
[15:38:04] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: how so?
[15:38:40] <SargoDarya> Well, it's blocking requests on the DNS level so it doesn't route any traffic, just acts as an intermediate DNS with custom blocklists.
[15:39:04] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: so really not like an ublock
[15:39:06] <SargoDarya> If it's on the blocklist, it won't resolve, request fails, no additional resources get loaded.
[15:39:58] <SargoDarya> Well, it doesn't hog resources on your machine. It's really rather simple and the amount of stuff which is blocked is really crazy.
[15:40:12] <SargoDarya> On the plus side, this also helps with InVideo ads.
[15:42:02] <SargoDarya> But yeah, setting this up takes probably 15 minutes.
[15:43:17] <Pyrrhus666> one major advantage of ublock : it´s easy to disable for any page that seems to misbehave because you´re blocking too much
[15:45:39] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: but how frequently is it blocking too much?
[15:45:56] <Pyrrhus666> for me, regularly (but I block aggressively)
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[15:47:40] <SargoDarya> You can set that up on the UI as well. Sure it's easier but if a webpage for example blocks me from using it because of ad block chances are it's not worth visiting for me anyways.
[15:48:24] <Pyrrhus666> agreed. but I regularly have problems with pages I actually want to visit too.
[15:49:33] <SargoDarya> Fuck those then xD
[15:50:34] <Pyrrhus666> some of those are trying to get me a new job though :P
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[15:51:53] <ray02> Pyrrhus666 how is going the job search ?
[15:52:27] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: fuck those IN PARTICULAR
[15:52:40] <Pyrrhus666> meh. I hate it. I don´t want to sell myself, I just want to code.
[15:53:51] <Pyrrhus666> a recruiter who contacted me told me it´d be easy. but I gotta show code, and by far most of it is tied in large projects of which I´m not particularly proud.
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[15:55:31] <Pyrrhus666> also most seem to be backend jobs. I kind of want frontend (or a combination)
[15:55:51] <ray02> so not yet happiness
[15:55:55] <Pyrrhus666> ah well, I got time still. although it does really get on my nerves.
[15:56:01] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, unfortunately, no.
[15:56:30] <ray02> it will came
[15:56:53] <Pyrrhus666> I hope so ;)
[16:01:18] <ray02> ;)
[16:02:09] <trampi> Pyrrhus666, where are you located if I may ask?
[16:02:24] <Pyrrhus666> the netherlands, the hague area
[16:03:21] <trampi> ahh, I see. I do not know how the job market is there, but it's probably not that bad, is it?
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[16:09:26] <ray02> man the course of angular is so disappointing me
[16:09:45] <Elarcis> aywhich part of it?
[16:09:57] <Elarcis> ray02: ^
[16:10:13] <ray02> if i did't know before some stuff of angular i will think that is all a mess
[16:10:32] <ray02> i'm just sotpped to the set up
[16:10:38] <ray02> *stopped
[16:11:12] <ray02> but i'm doing it from yesterday the set up
[16:11:42] <Pyrrhus666> trampi, no, generally speaking programmers are quite in demand
[16:11:58] <ray02> all the things the instructor is doing on the console don't work on my machine
[16:12:29] <jlebrech> wow, vuejs mixins are cool
[16:14:04] <Elarcis> ray02: ah, an actual course, not the direction of Angular
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[16:15:08] <ray02> no, no with a friend we split the cost of onemonth on that platform
[16:15:37] <ray02> but this course i feel uncessary complicated
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[16:29:08] <Elarcis> ray02: like how? too many technical terms or weird explanations?
[16:31:00] <ray02> that add a level of abstraction that for some one is new is totally unnecessary to me
[16:31:35] <ray02> now i'm stucked in creating a little library of module of material design
[16:32:03] <ray02> like this you can import in all the project easyli
[16:32:34] <ray02> all the project of the environment you have created
[16:33:06] <ray02> he creat that stuff in a line of command line
[16:34:11] <ray02> in my case che cli ask me a lot more detail question that i don't know how to reply because i don't know the final purpuose
[16:34:26] <trampi> Pyrrhus666: thats nice to hear :-)
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[16:44:06] <Pyrrhus666> trampi, yeah, now we gotta see whether an old fart with 20 years experience but little formal training can still get a job :P
[16:44:45] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: IMHO experience really counts more than formal training
[16:46:28] <Pyrrhus666> I should buy a t-shirt saying ´I survived the browser wars and all I got is this lousy t-shirt´
[16:49:28] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, that´s what I´m hoping for. even though I sometimes still feel some formal knowledge is really missing (like some paradigm / pattern knowledge and sexy stuff like ´solid´ where I always forget what the L stands for)
[16:50:13] <Pyrrhus666> oh, and more modern stuff like testing methods and CI/CD
[16:50:14] <ray02> Pyrrhus666 c'mon you are a tiger of the code!
[16:50:27] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, hehe, I wish :P
[16:50:49] <trampi> I am pretty sure that given the right employer your experience will be valued.
[16:51:13] <Pyrrhus666> lets just hope I find them then ;)
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[16:51:28] <trampi> One of the most capable project managers (and developer) I know had an agricultural background
[16:51:41] <ray02> the things you don't know it's just because time
[16:52:28] <Pyrrhus666> I know. asking if I know php framework X or Y is silly imho. I can learn any framework in days
[16:52:54] <Pyrrhus666> off in a bit. talk to y´all tomorrow
[16:53:15] <trampi> have a nice evening!
[16:53:18] <ray02> yeee have a good evening Pyrrhus666
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[17:21:41] <trampi> good evening everyone
[17:21:59] <trampi> see you tomorrow :-)
[17:22:36] <ray02> bye bye trampi
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[20:34:04] <Bacteria> omg i hate popover
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[20:42:55] <ray02> ahah why?
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[20:52:39] <Bacteria> lol
[20:53:14] <Bacteria> is there a version of a popover that will close the other one
[20:53:30] <Bacteria> like reuses itself
[20:53:56] <Bacteria> i have a bunch of shitty code that closes the already open one
[20:56:54] <ray02> ahah magnific combination :p
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[21:05:36] <Bacteria> shit code is the best
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[21:38:28] <exonity01> hmm
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[21:39:26] <Bacteria> exonity01: were not gona help u
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[22:34:22] <ray02> why not ?
[22:35:29] <ray02> exonity01 but that is not a toggle button
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[22:42:55] <exonity01> Bacteria: what's wrong?
[22:46:30] <ray02> because is not a dropsdow ?
[22:46:35] <ray02> dropdown
[22:47:11] <ray02> you missing some css? or the correct element is select
[22:47:17] <ray02> for a dropdown
[22:50:47] <Bacteria> can i extend directives
[22:50:49] <Bacteria> with a base
[22:51:40] <Bacteria> i know i already have 2 diff ways i extend services vs controllers
[22:54:00] <ray02> with a base?
[22:54:14] <Bacteria> bass
[22:54:22] <Bacteria> i want some bass
[22:54:34] <ray02> i don't know what is it?
[22:54:36] <Bacteria> like funky style
[22:54:38] <exonity01> ray02 isnt the hide / show toggle a html5 feature?
[22:55:04] <Bacteria> exonity01: no
[22:56:10] <Bacteria> ray02: u dont have any extends?
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[23:00:56] <ray02> extends?
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[23:01:39] <Bacteria> yeah its when u have a class with core functions u can reuse
[23:01:51] <Bacteria> then u extend it with another class more specific
[23:02:26] <Bacteria> its not really native to JS but we do it anyway
[23:03:02] <Bacteria> angular.extend(this, $controller('DefaultController', { $scope: $scope }));
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[23:03:09] <Bacteria> see
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[23:12:06] <ray02> ahh ok get it
[23:12:46] <ray02> umm not really i didn't have yet any project with this feature
[23:14:07] <ray02> i use angular not angularjs
[23:26:56] <Bacteria> did u use angularjs?
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[23:30:27] <ray02> no angular
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[23:31:16] <ray02> normally you refer to angular for the version of angular >2
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[23:31:37] <ray02> and to angularJs for the version of angular < 2
[23:36:48] <Bacteria> ya i kno
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[23:41:12] <ray02> do you use boh?
[23:41:21] <ray02> *both
[23:48:04] <ray02> going to bed, have a good day!
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