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[07:43:26] <max_at> good morning
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[08:07:14] <hellerbarde> [angular7] I have some trouble understanding the change detection when Map<X,Y>'s are involved. So if I bind to myMap.get(foo), and the value for the key foo is changed, will that be detected or not? Or if yes, under which circumstances?
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[08:27:34] <icebox> hey folks
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[09:32:06] <Elarcis> Hello peers!
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[10:32:19] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[10:36:47] <Elarcis> test
[10:36:54] <Tazmain> morning all
[10:36:57] <Tazmain> Elarcis, test failed :d
[10:37:12] <mar77i> hrmm. is there a way to have the runtime update itself somehow? like when the different bundles are updated on the server, it would be nice to have a way to know if my bundles fit our current app...
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[10:37:17] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis Tazmain
[10:37:45] <Tazmain> o/ Pyrrhus666
[10:38:11] <mar77i> (this is the server where our developer pushes regularly)
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[10:41:52] <jlebrech> every morning, meetings to discuss progress, every friday "sprint planning" where sprints magically end on fridays.
[10:47:47] <Pyrrhus666> if sprint is just another word for ´working week´ that´s fine, no ? ;)
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[10:48:18] <Pyrrhus666> mar77i, I have no idea what you´re actually asking. what do you mean ´fit our current app´ ?
[10:48:23] <Elarcis> hey Pyrrhus666
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[10:48:53] <exonity01> Hello!
[10:49:30] <Pyrrhus666> hi exonity01
[10:50:04] <exonity01> Do you think it makes sense to move all my router paths in a separted file? I think about changing the urls sometimes and then I have to look for all router redirects and have to change the paths overall.
[10:50:31] <exonity01> Or is there any better solution to do this?
[10:51:07] <Elarcis> exonity01: use constants
[10:51:33] <exonity01> Yes, that was what I mean with "separted file" :-)
[10:51:52] <Elarcis> exonity01: so that any repeated string whose instances are linked should be the same constant
[10:52:12] <Elarcis> exonity01: wow, then you meant "separted file" as a very broad concept
[10:53:07] <exonity01> ;D
[10:53:24] <exonity01> Thanks! :-)
[10:56:14] <jlebrech> Pyrrhus666: bit pointless imho, what if you finish a sprint early?
[10:57:00] <Pyrrhus666> jlebrech, then you´re free ! enjoy the rest of the week :)
[10:57:21] <jlebrech> haha, i'll probably do that.
[10:57:28] <trampi> hi everyone!
[10:57:39] <jlebrech> but then if there's too much to do it gets moved to the next "sprint"
[10:57:44] <jlebrech> load of bollocks
[10:57:55] <Pyrrhus666> jlebrech, sounds like bs indeed :)
[10:57:59] <Pyrrhus666> morning trampi
[10:58:06] <jlebrech> buzzwords
[10:58:57] <Pyrrhus666> always have your bingo card at hand :)
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[11:14:42] <Elarcis> exonity01: this has the advantage of not locking you to an object containing all your constants, and avoiding to have to use that object when in the same file
[11:15:18] <Elarcis> exonity01: of course, you could also export each route separately, and reference them via their 'path' property
[11:17:28] <exonity01> Okay. That makes sense.
[11:19:33] <Elarcis> exonity01: the most important part is to do something that feels natural and not contrived to you
[11:19:36] <Elarcis> (and your team)
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[11:39:03] <trampi> Elarcis: any idea what to do with url parameters in this approach? functions, where you pass the parameters? (something like rails reverse routing style)
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[11:45:14] <ray02> hello hello there
[11:45:31] <trampi> hello ray02
[11:47:40] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[11:48:37] <ray02> the friday start well ?
[11:51:57] <Pyrrhus666> I overslept more than an hour and had to rush, so not really ;)
[11:53:04] <ray02> i feel exausted
[11:53:45] <ray02> was the first week of my plan and today i didn't have the energy to do nothing :p
[11:55:11] <Pyrrhus666> s/nothing/anything/ I guess ? :P
[11:55:29] <ray02> ahah no is not how look like :d
[11:55:45] <Pyrrhus666> or you are actually bursting with energy and really cannot do nothing ?
[11:55:46] <ray02> i go to run all the moring
[11:56:00] <ray02> *morning
[11:56:09] <Pyrrhus666> that´s your problem right there :P
[11:56:12] <ray02> ahaha
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[11:58:16] <Pyrrhus666> or just limit your calorie intake ;)
[11:58:26] <ray02> is more easy the run :p
[11:58:48] <Pyrrhus666> haha :)
[11:59:14] <ray02> i love to much eat shit :p
[11:59:49] <ray02> and the rest of the day i try to get stronger my foundament of programming
[12:00:27] <Elarcis> trampi: Pffrt, honestly I wouldn't bother that much if I were you
[12:00:53] <Elarcis> trampi: JS/TS is not a langage where you should worry about type-locking everything
[12:01:52] <Elarcis> trampi: of course it's always better to have TS types prevent bugs, but sounds like you're trying to shift routing to a type-based system like one would do in langages like Rust, and I don't think it's a great idea for an Angular app
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[12:02:35] <Elarcis> trampi: how often are your route parameters going to change, and what s the risk that you forget propagating a change without noticing it?
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[12:26:44] <trampi> Elarcis: thats true, and I keep it simple in the current application. Just wondered some times if there might be cheap wins to improve 'route generation'. I've worked with that feature in Ruby on Rails (server side framework and ofc. not that comparable) and liked it quite a bit and thought about how one could map that (without overengineering it o
[12:26:44] <trampi> fc)
[12:27:20] <trampi> but as always: a solution for a problem that not exists is worthless
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[12:40:31] <mar77i> Pyrrhus666: devs push to the server, CI deploys the new code, including a new index.html -- so the thinking goes that our app would once in a while - basically whenever requesting js bundles from the server - check whether the index.html's etag is current, and, if not, reload.
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[12:43:39] <Pyrrhus666> mar77i, ah, like that. you could just call window.location.reload if a check says it´s necessary?
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[12:51:37] <Pyrrhus666> mar77i, maybe it would be sensible to have your backend server a version number somehow, which is updated by the CI/CD process. in that case, any api-request could signal the app it´s time to reload ?
[12:51:44] <Pyrrhus666> *serve
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[14:49:02] <trcc> Hi. I have bootstrap: [AppComponent] within my ngmodule, and my AppComponent implements ngInit. However, it is not executed, and I do not get any errors in developer tools. It seems like app component does not get created. Any ideas on how to progress? I am on angular 2.0.0
[14:50:14] <Elarcis> trcc: ngOnInit
[14:50:31] <Elarcis> ah, it's deeper than that apparently
[14:50:40] <trcc> import { Component, OnInit, NgZone } from '@angular/core';
[14:50:51] <Elarcis> trcc: and you're sure that you have the actual bootstrap code loading your app module?
[14:50:54] <trcc> and then export class AppComponent implements OnInit
[14:51:11] <trcc> If I place a breakpoint on: export class AppModule { } then it gets hit
[14:51:24] <Elarcis> trcc: yes, but that's not the bootstrap code.
[14:51:24] <trcc> but it does not load app.component
[14:52:16] <trcc> platformBrowserDynamic().bootstrapModule(AppModule);
[14:52:21] <trcc> I have this, that is getting execute
[14:53:17] <trcc> not really, but I have just pushed. Sec
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[14:55:18] <trcc> Elarcis: is there some way to get additional debug information from angular?
[14:55:31] <trcc> Because it must encounter some error, at least that is my idea, that is not displayed for some reason
[14:57:59] <Elarcis> trcc: yeah, it's strange, from the look of what you gave us, and provided everything is ran, it should work...
[14:58:07] <Elarcis> trcc: you're in development mode by default
[14:58:14] <trcc> I just commented prodmode, but it changes nothing
[14:58:26] <Elarcis> trcc: oh you had prodmode enabled, my bad
[14:58:37] <Elarcis> trcc: not even a 'AppComponent' log in console?
[14:58:58] <trcc> Nothing
[15:00:36] <Elarcis> trcc: I'm sorry, I have no idea :(
[15:00:43] <trcc> Elarcis: ok. Thank you anyhow :)
[15:00:59] <Elarcis> trcc: have you checked in the devtools that your sources are up to date and there indeed is an app.component.ts file?
[15:01:16] <trcc> Yes, and it is up to date indeed
[15:01:20] <Elarcis> shit
[15:01:29] <trcc> but I am thinking like you, there must be some small detail that I have missed
[15:03:38] <Elarcis> trcc: plus it's not like your app is super complex, on the document being ready, the app is bootstrapped, except it is not
[15:03:55] <trcc> i just added a constructor to ngmodule, that is not executed either
[15:04:09] <trcc> i.e. AppModule constructor
[15:11:11] <Elarcis> trcc: are you SURE at 100% that your platformBrowser().bootstrap() is executed?
[15:11:51] <trcc> I have a inserted a console.log before and after. Both are there
[15:12:22] <Elarcis> trcc: try adding a .catch(err => console.error(err)); after your bootstrapModule() call
[15:12:43] <Elarcis> trcc: it's possible an error happens in the promise chain and is swallowed by it
[15:13:20] <trcc> Elarcis: thank you!!!!
[15:13:29] <trcc> Now I get a shitload of errors, woohoo
[15:13:46] <trcc> a not of template parse errors
[15:13:47] <trcc> a lot
[15:14:13] <Elarcis> trcc: that's a nice start!
[15:14:21] <trcc> hehe it is a start :P
[15:14:34] <trcc> I am taking over some code from someone where 2.0.0 rc4 was used
[15:14:40] <trcc> a lot of changes form rc4 to 2.0.0
[15:15:05] <Elarcis> trcc: ooof
[15:15:07] <Elarcis> trcc: good luck
[15:15:10] <trcc> hehe thank you
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[15:16:17] <Elarcis> trcc: I don't remember much about RC4, but if you're having some issues, we may be able to help
[15:16:48] <Elarcis> trcc: then try upgrading, one major at a time, to v6 as soon as possible
[15:16:59] <trcc> v6 is a good one?
[15:17:08] <Elarcis> trcc: huh, v7 sorry
[15:17:27] <Elarcis> trcc: there's one major every six month, and they are often easy to upgrade (provided you don't have a shit ton of dependencies)
[15:17:51] <trcc> hehe
[15:18:00] <Elarcis> trcc: v2 is ANCIENT. you'll get a lot of improvements by upgrading to v7: performances, weight, etc.
[15:18:07] <trcc> ah ok
[15:18:10] <trcc> thank you very much
[15:18:50] <Elarcis> trcc: (there's no v3 though)
[15:19:45] <Elarcis> trcc: (they probably thought "hey, let's skip a version number to synchronise all our modules versions together, this makes sense and will definitely not confuse anyone!)
[15:23:30] <trcc> hehe
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[15:44:51] <icebox> framework and router version was misaligned... and the devs made an arrangement
[15:46:09] <Elarcis> ?
[15:46:30] <Pyrrhus666> that was the reason to skip 3
[15:46:36] <Elarcis> ah yes
[15:46:57] <XsiSec> Ello
[15:47:04] <Elarcis> yeah, almost exactly what I meant :P
[15:47:11] <icebox> ;P
[15:47:15] <Pyrrhus666> icebox is becoming json where he should be xml (more verbose)
[15:47:32] <icebox> ahahah ;)
[15:49:00] <Elarcis> switch to toml :P
[15:52:53] <jlebrech> showerthought "best way to learn SPAs is to just do normal pages and start with components, routers and stuff later", vue makes it so easy to make components :D
[15:54:25] <Elarcis> jlebrech: I think it's more tahan just a showerthought
[15:54:45] <jlebrech> router is just a path
[15:55:36] <jlebrech> you just need to have page paths and api paths, nice flat structure with grepable names. like old school perl/php days
[15:56:00] <jlebrech> wanna do this kinda stuff in go/vue.js
[15:56:05] <XsiSec> ok
[15:58:13] <XsiSec> Thank you jlebrech
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[16:12:44] <Elarcis> hmm
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[16:35:39] <Elarcis> hmmm
[16:37:04] <Pyrrhus666> (all /r/hmmm)
[16:37:58] <Elarcis> hmmm
[16:38:02] <Elarcis> (yes, hence my reactions)
[16:38:19] <Pyrrhus666> :P
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[16:46:45] <jlebrech> XsiSec: what? i was just rant, unrelated
[16:46:49] <jlebrech> ranting*
[16:47:48] <Elarcis> jlebrech: hence my "hmm"
[16:47:54] <Elarcis> jlebrech: (the initial one)
[16:47:59] <jlebrech> haha
[16:53:56] <Pyrrhus666> have a nice weekend folks !
[16:55:59] <stennowork> i want weekend too
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[17:08:52] <Elarcis> oh, that's a good idea, I should go in week-end as well!
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[19:55:45] <trcc> Any idea on how to fix this? <span *ngIf="!fmu.pathNotFound && !fmu.isSupported()" title="This FMU is only supported on [ERROR ->]{{ fmu.platforms.join(', ') }}." class="label label-danger">Not supported</span> It seems to not like the ', ' within fmu.platforms.join
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[20:18:43] <trcc> nvm
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[21:49:09] <jacksonmills> what templating engines would people recommend for Angular?
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