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[01:13:00] <matute> Hi anyone
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[01:14:01] <matute> I have question about the integration between angular and node.js ?
[01:14:16] <matute> somebody can help me?
[01:14:36] <WhatTheDilly> illug: angular 1 is easier to get into as far as getting up and running. but code wise there's (from my experience) a lot more code you have to write
[01:15:03] <WhatTheDilly> with angular 2 the getting up and running is a bit longer/harder from my experience, but code wise there seems to be less cod eyou have to write
[01:15:21] <illug> WhatTheDilly: Ok, thanks :)
[01:15:30] <WhatTheDilly> major thing about angular 2 is they made some very assinine decisions that make the tooling support really sucky
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[01:16:01] <matute> My problem is the following. I have a web form made with angular 1. This form have one "input" type "file"
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[01:16:33] <matute> I use the file-model directive
[01:17:13] <matute> everthing goind fine ...beacuse in the controle I see the input on the $scope
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[01:17:28] <matute> but the problem sitll in the "http.post"
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[01:18:36] <matute> I don't know but the select pictured on the form is never received on the node.js (server side)
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[01:19:47] <matute> This are: the part of cliente side
[01:19:49] <matute> var formT = new FormData(); formT.append("file", $scope.file);
[01:20:24] <matute> this is the response from server side
[01:20:25] <matute> files: {} } undefined POST /postKite 200 5.431 ms - 1 TypeError: Cannot read property 'path' of undefined
[01:20:48] <matute> (I am using the NPM connect-multiparty
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[01:21:39] <WhatTheDilly> how much data is submitted to the server matute ?
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[01:22:12] <matute> littler... < 2 mb
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[01:22:32] <WhatTheDilly> <2mb?
[01:22:34] <WhatTheDilly> but greaer than what?
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[01:22:40] <WhatTheDilly> cause 0 is less than 2mb
[01:22:53] <WhatTheDilly> how much data was transmitted? how big was the file
[01:22:57] <matute> sorry, < 2 mb
[01:23:24] <matute> sorry > 2mb...
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[01:24:16] <matute> (i probe the server side using a standard form with multipart, and the server side works fine)
[01:24:36] <matute> (my problem is with Angular)
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[01:25:46] <matute> WhatTheDilly , you sugest that i need to setup the maxlength with a hidden variable?
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[01:28:31] <WhatTheDilly> i think we're having a communicationproblem :P
[01:28:43] <WhatTheDilly> if 2mb was transmitted then this probably means the file was sent successfully
[01:30:10] <matute> no....I think the problem is with http.post
[01:30:38] <matute> I am doing something wrong...and the file never pass througth
[01:31:02] <matute> i think the Formdata object
[01:32:52] <WhatTheDilly> well for that you should probably read a tutorial on uploading a file via angular 2
[01:32:58] <WhatTheDilly> *via angular 1
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[01:33:53] <matute> yes. probably.
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[09:01:11] <SargoDarya> Morning fellas
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[09:02:04] <icebox> hey
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[09:13:27] <Elarcis> Hi.
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[09:14:23] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis icebox #angularjs
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[09:15:05] <arlekin> morning guys
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[09:16:41] <heartburn> czesc przyjaciele.
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[09:17:14] <heartburn> chlopcy yopta.
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[09:17:44] <arlekin> heartburn: the fourth word was weird....
[09:17:58] <heartburn> it was transliterated russian.
[09:18:12] <arlekin> heartburn: oh i see
[09:18:13] <heartburn> somewhat untranslatable.
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[09:19:03] <icebox> Pyrrhus666, Elarcis, arlekin: hey
[09:19:06] <arlekin> anyone using fedora here ? i have some internet problem recently, when im in the office, but for the life of me i cannot pin down the cause
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[09:25:58] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin, nope, just debian and ubuntu here.
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[09:34:23] <jarard> Good morning Pyrrhus666 o/
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[09:35:03] <Pyrrhus666> morning jarard, how´s the template/theme thing going ?
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[09:35:28] <jarard> yes it's all working now thanks
[09:35:57] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, that´s good :)
[09:35:58] <jarard> was working last night on targeting a div generated by an ng-repeat, is $index the way to go
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[09:37:06] <jarard> i managed to get this working, just to to confirm it is a good approach
[09:37:07] <jarard> https://plnkr.co/edit/dYxwDE2Rd6RzDCdyuKcS?p=preview
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[09:40:06] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, for CRUD like stuff, usually there´s an associated ID to use. indexes vary by order.
[09:40:35] <jarard> so you'd have a numeric ID?
[09:41:01] <jarard> although in my case I'm not actually deleting, only marking as inactive
[09:41:05] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, not necessarily numeric, but unique.
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[09:41:37] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, that makes little difference, you are altering an object in a set, and usually we refer to them by ID
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[09:42:09] <Pyrrhus666> often you already have one from (e.g.) your database.
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[09:42:46] <jarard> so you could assign the id of the div the id of the object
[09:43:05] <jarard> then use that to target the div
[09:43:36] <jarard> id="foo3" etc ? where 3 is the foo.id
[09:43:37] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, more the other way around : the objects in the set already have a (natural) id, which you assign to the delete action on rendering in the loop.
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[09:44:55] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, see https://plnkr.co/edit/H4CCwZGCYpfQVYXJ2OSs?p=preview for example
[09:45:08] <jarard> thanks
[09:45:53] <Pyrrhus666> typo in plunk, fixed.
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[09:46:55] <Pyrrhus666> setting the deleted flag on the right item in the set is left as an exercise for the reader ;)
[09:47:19] <jarard> https://plnkr.co/edit/Cvi4GKBNueTPTS744r7q?p=preview
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[09:47:44] <jarard> is that better ^
[09:49:29] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: OT - https://medium.freecodecamp.com/reacts-jsx-vs-vue-s-templates-a-showdown-on-the-front-end-b00a70470409#.z7cob7bpq
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[09:49:50] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, that was my plunk, with the typo still in it ?
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[09:51:32] <jarard> I forked it and changed listing.blah == $index to listing.blah === item.id
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[09:52:13] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, ah, ok. I hadn´t touched that, I only altered the collection and the render in the loop.
[09:52:26] <jarard> does it look good now?
[09:53:20] <Pyrrhus666> jarard, except for the typo, yes ;)
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[09:53:42] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: remember me, please, your favourite micro css lib
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[09:53:57] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, bulna ?
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[09:54:10] <Pyrrhus666> (not micro, though)
[09:54:51] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ok, I give a look at it, thank
[09:54:54] <icebox> *thanks
[09:55:22] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, it has its weird points though (check out the way headers work)
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[09:56:19] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, nice overview, that article, but it doesn´t offer any really new insights.
[09:56:31] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... but at this point the main target is ditching material :) it is a show stopper for the migration and there is not any big selling point, at least I don't see anyone
[09:56:50] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I thought you preferred tachyons ?
[09:57:04] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... no new insights but the comparison between templates is nice
[09:57:28] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: at the moment, my short list is angular, vue, mithril
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[09:58:15] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: but I am convinced I need not to couple ui widget lib with mvc framework
[09:59:15] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, well, it´s a nice thing to have (I still like ui-bootstrap for example), but it´s not a must-have.
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[09:59:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed
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[10:03:19] <Elarcis> custooom css 7o7
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[10:04:23] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, nah, too much work. just do it the way the framework dictates, because you know, we like opinionated frameworks, right ?
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[10:06:08] <icebox> :P
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[10:13:54] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: >:c
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[10:24:28] <SargoDarya> Everytime I'm reading Pyrrhus I have to think of an anime character from Rwby
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[10:25:57] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, I don´t know if that´s a compliment or an insult, I only know that anime vaguely by name ;)
[10:26:26] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: http://static.zerochan.net/Pyrrha.Nikos.full.1972582.jpg
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[10:27:12] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, haha, OK, I didn´t know it was an association purely on the nickname :)
[10:27:49] <SargoDarya> Well, what else?
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[10:30:10] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, well, it could´ve been from the stuff I tend to say...
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[10:30:40] <SargoDarya> Nah, purely nick based in this case ;)
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[10:47:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: every time I read Todd Motto's posts I say myself Angular is great :)
[10:48:03] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: anyway he is gifted to explain things
[10:48:11] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I can imagine. every framework should have a todd :)
[10:48:49] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... I am sure if it talked about another topic, I would agree with him :)
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[10:51:32] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, just sank in : todd is a very good tech-evangelist...
[10:51:48] <heartburn> have you guys ever written chrome extensions?
[10:51:57] <icebox> heartburn: no
[10:53:06] <heartburn> alright, anyway, i'll show you some code and you tell me if i'm doing this wrong. one sec.
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[10:55:48] <helloMoto> hello
[10:56:41] <heartburn> so, the thing about chrome extensions (as i understand it from the docs) is that they do have access to the host page's DOM, but cannot access js stuff that was created by it.
[10:57:53] <heartburn> i'm putting together an extension that works on just one specific page, and i want reuse angular that is already included in said page.
[10:58:15] <heartburn> in order to make it happen i do this --> http://pastebin.com/CR2zpFUa
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[10:59:46] <heartburn> basically, i'm inlining my code to make it work inside the page's context, not the extension's.
[11:01:20] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, if that would work, wouldn´t that open up the page to a whole lot of nasty ? (no experience at all with extensions though)
[11:01:48] <heartburn> yea it would, but i'm the only user of that extension, so not a big deal.
[11:02:02] <Elarcis> heartburn: why not use your JS file path as the remote URL of the script tag?
[11:02:03] <heartburn> i just want to get some nice shortcuts in pocketcasts.
[11:03:11] <heartburn> i don't know how to get the extension's url from within.
[11:03:43] <Elarcis> heartburn: http://stackoverflow.com/a/9517879
[11:04:45] <heartburn> ah cool, it seems like method 2 is what i'm doing already.
[11:05:02] <Elarcis> heartburn: yes
[11:05:29] <Elarcis> heartburn: but it seems it is only appropriate when dealing with small amounts of code
[11:05:57] <Elarcis> heartburn: I personnally find having your code in a separate JS and downloading it via a script tag way clearer to understand
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[11:06:11] <Elarcis> heartburn: but hey, who am I to tell you what to do :P
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[11:08:05] <heartburn> i agree, but it kinda seems like it doesn't matter in this particular case. having an external script is good when you need it to be cached, which isn't necessary, since it lives locally anyway.
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[11:10:17] <Elarcis> heartburn: I was more referencing code readability than just performances or technical details :P
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[11:12:41] <heartburn> well...
[11:12:45] <heartburn> i can read it. :o)
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[11:13:05] <heartburn> alright, thanks guys.
[11:15:38] <Elarcis> heartburn: you're not welcome. you didn't like my advice >:c
[11:15:46] <Elarcis> I'm sad now.
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[11:17:24] <heartburn> don't be, have a cat pic - http://i.imgur.com/5VDX7rO.jpg
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[11:53:11] <limpep> hi I am trying to add a property to input boxs which are empty, here is my code https://gist.github.com/limpep/15b50b4ceea910f536a43f11563432aa
[11:53:22] <limpep> if any one can point me in the right direction that would be great
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[11:56:19] <Elarcis> dfkhjguligufdgi https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/wiki/'this'-in-TypeScript
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[11:56:43] <Elarcis> I am baffled at how the 'this' topic is still completely in a "yeah, it's annoying" state.
[11:57:45] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, because it _is_ ?
[11:58:05] <bd-> it's still pretty annoying
[11:58:17] <bd-> even when doing es6 arrow functions or typescript
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[11:59:41] <Pyrrhus666> with arrow functions I often see them as a local/anonymous closure type thing, and then ´this´ implicitly works as I expect it to.
[12:00:41] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: they are discussing about standardizing some kind of 'binding operator' to avoid having to do this.method.bind(this)
[12:00:55] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: but it seems very... quirky in its current state, at best
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[12:07:29] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, the javascript inheritance will probably ensure any solution will be quirky at best...
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[12:22:14] <soee> if your app has several modules and they contain various components than do you use for all of thse component names some namespace prefix?
[12:22:32] <soee> like vendor-component-one, vendor-component-two etc. ?
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[13:08:50] <cuebix-wk> Whaddup my ninjas
[13:09:15] <cuebix-wk> I'm kinda new to ng-animate and I'm trying to use it with a component that is responsible for loading the data it needs.
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[13:10:06] <anli_> What does ng-if="show" test?
[13:10:08] <cuebix-wk> So, currently, I'm routing to that component and I'm trying to use the enter and leave classes to animate it, but I think the issue is since the component loads its own data, it doesn't appear to animate after its data is loaded
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[13:11:46] <anli_> Can ng-if check for a certain style?
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[13:12:25] <Pyrrhus666> anli_, whether the variable named ¨show¨ has a ´truthy´ value.
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[13:12:44] <anli_> Yeah, should be that :)
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[13:15:09] <anli_> I need to run a function if an element is visible, else not
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[13:16:37] <anli_> I like the word "truthy"
[13:16:53] <anli_> Its like I am a child and gets an explanation :)
[13:17:01] <Pyrrhus666> anli_, it´s pretty standard in typeless languages :)
[13:17:12] <anli_> :)
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[13:45:18] <Elarcis> back, and brain is still complete!
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[13:46:35] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, you probably lost a couple (of thousand) neurons in the time you were away due to aging (and drinking if applicable)
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[13:46:57] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I don't drink
[13:47:19] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, good for you ;)
[13:47:28] <ngWalrus> I drink heavily to die as quickly as possible
[13:47:39] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus, yup
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[13:48:09] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I don't forget my troubles, I smother them in lard
[13:48:19] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: :P
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[13:48:34] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, haha, that´s something that _I_ don´t do ;)
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[13:49:58] <ngWalrus> a bottle of wine a day keeps the worries away
[13:50:51] <Pyrrhus666> I´m not there yet...
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[13:52:32] <uru> lol, CEO of the last place I worked also owned a whine shop that was one building over from our offices so there was always wine around the place
[13:53:02] <heartburn> > whine shop
[13:53:08] <heartburn> a whinery.
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[13:58:39] <Pyrrhus666> I´d like to ´work´ at a place that has at least a dozen good craft beers on tap. and not at a craft beer bar, that would be too much work.
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[14:04:37] <neuro_sy1> Is it possible to set/override ng-change from inside a directive?
[14:04:53] <neuro_sy1> attrs.ngChange = function () { /*...*/ }; doesn't seem to work in that case.
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[14:08:52] <Pyrrhus666> neuro_sy1, due to the fact that a template is compiled, I feel that is highly unlikely to be possible. better make your own directive in that case.
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[14:10:25] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: what makes you need to change the function called in ngChange?
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[14:10:59] <neuro_sy1> Elarcis: I want to set it, rather than change it.
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[14:11:43] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: what forbids you to directly write it in the template?
[14:12:03] <neuro_sy1> And that's because I want custom behaviour on elements with my custom directive when the value is changed (hence ngChange), so as to reduce clutter in template code.
[14:12:42] <neuro_sy1> Elarcis: I was looking for a way to refactor code that uses ng-change and other stuff for a certain behaviour by moving the whole logic into an attribute directive.
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[14:13:09] <icebox> neuro_sy1: watch the attribute
[14:13:14] <neuro_sy1> So that people won't have to manually do all that ng-change stuff whenever they need the given behaviour.
[14:13:46] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: ok, ng-change is directly linked to ngModel.$viewChangeListeners
[14:14:03] <neuro_sy1> Oh, didn't know about $viewChangeListeners, let me check, thanks!
[14:14:25] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: what you can do is having your custom directive implement a logic similar to ngChange (additionnally to your logic), so that ngChange is unnecessary
[14:14:36] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/ng/directive/ngChange.js#L72-L76
[14:14:37] <icebox> neuro_sy1: <my-directive my-expression="... watch this one ..."> or as Elarcis said https://teamtreehouse.com/community/why-not-just-listen-for-a-change-ngmodelctrlviewchangelistenerspushfunction-consolelog
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[14:15:52] <neuro_sy1> icebox: I want only my custom attribute directive in the template, and nothing else, I'll look into $viewChangeListeners now.
[14:15:54] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: just in case you don't know require: it injects what you give it in the ctrl argument of the link function
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[14:16:23] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: here the controller from the ngModel directive
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[14:18:01] <Elarcis> it's funny, when you think of it, that a lot of angular directives are just syntaxic sugar for one-liners :D
[14:18:25] <neuro_sy1> Elarcis: it works, beautifully, thanks a lot.
[14:18:33] <Elarcis> neuro_sy1: np!
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[14:27:28] <Elarcis> icebox: it's amazing that angularjs' source code is that readable
[14:27:43] <icebox> Elarcis: agreed :P
[14:27:53] <Elarcis> icebox: it's really neat to be able to help people by pointing the source :P
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[14:35:08] <icebox> it would be nice to have a lite angularjs :)
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[14:35:23] <icebox> maybe in ES2015 fashion
[14:35:27] <Elarcis> icebox: lite how?
[14:35:34] <Elarcis> icebox: just the core?
[14:35:59] <icebox> Elarcis: yep... following 80/20 approach
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[14:40:47] <neuro_sy1> I'm glad that you can extend directives, I needed this to extend the behaviour of uib-datepicker-popup
[14:41:04] <neuro_sy1> and this requires no change in the template code at all, because they're already using uib-datepicker-popup.
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[15:02:37] <Elarcis> SHIT! SHIT! SHIT!
[15:02:43] <Elarcis> Struggling with my code, is all
[15:02:53] <Elarcis> I hate this feature
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[15:12:10] <johnb-> Say I want to override the click event in a nested component, should I override the (click) EventEmitter? If so, what's the best way to prevent the parent from receiving 2 events -- the one from the nested component and the MouseEvent
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[15:18:57] <icebox> OT - from GitHub - https://opensource.guide/
[15:20:06] <icebox> OT - A curated list of movies every hacker & cyberpunk must watch. - https://github.com/k4m4/movies-for-hackers
[15:21:36] <Pyrrhus666> ha, existenz... one of my early favourites...
[15:21:51] <Pyrrhus666> ¨but what if we´re still in the game ?¨
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[15:25:44] <bd-> no johnny mnemonic on that list
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[15:26:27] <bd-> it's pretty bad but it's very cyberpunk
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[15:27:36] <icebox> bd-: https://github.com/k4m4/movies-for-hackers/issues/35
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[15:28:29] <Elarcis> icebox: interesting
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[15:29:43] <bd-> hmm. i feel like the time the maintainer took to self assign the issue and add the tag they could have just added it to the list
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[15:30:08] <Pyrrhus666> also https://github.com/k4m4/movies-for-hackers/pull/42
[15:30:30] <Elarcis> icebox: I'm ashamed that I don't have any open source thingy on my repo beyond a very old hacked together minecraft server plugin XD
[15:30:38] <bd-> what happened to that neuromancer film that was supposedly in production
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[15:31:19] <Elarcis> at least a Portal movie is in the makings
[15:31:34] <Elarcis> I absolutely have no idea how they're going to make it interesting
[15:31:35] <Elarcis> :D
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[15:35:28] <Snugglebash> Psychedelic drugs
[15:36:28] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, just 90 minutes of watching someone recursively falling through a portal isn´t interesting enough ?
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[15:42:50] <bd-> also not strictly hacker/cyberpunk but a documentary called We Live in Public is worth watching if interested in early internet
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[15:51:43] <heartburn> > Pi Drama/Mystery 1998 7.5/10
[15:51:48] <heartburn> > 7.5/10
[15:51:58] <heartburn> not 11/10, can't take this list seriously.
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[15:52:32] <Pyrrhus666> dunno, tried watching it twice, never made it to the end.
[15:52:44] <heartburn> you missed the best scene then.
[15:52:59] <Pyrrhus666> probably. the nap was good though ;)
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[15:53:41] <heartburn> it's not very hacker-y kind of a movie though.
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[15:57:51] <heartburn> Ex Machina Fantasy/Mystery 2015 7.7/10
[15:58:00] <heartburn> what the thell is wrong with them.
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[15:58:50] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, the general populace has different tastes from you/hackers/coders/nerds/geeks ? that´s nothing new, is it ?
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[16:03:28] <heartburn> i'd really love to party with you guys some day.
[16:04:05] <Pyrrhus666> I could never keep up with all them youngsters ;)
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[16:14:51] <jancoow> HI. When I use childred in the router, is it required to place <router-outlet></router-outlet> in the "main" ?
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[16:14:54] <jancoow> so the parent
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[16:15:38] <icebox> jancoow: generally speaking, Getting started with Angular's Router - https://toddmotto.com/angular-component-router
[16:16:45] <jancoow> icebox: I know. And I've used child routes before. But this time i don't want a page be rendered inside his parent
[16:17:00] <icebox> jancoow: so... try it
[16:17:13] <jancoow> Cannot find primary outlet to load.. errors
[16:17:28] <icebox> jancoow: perfect... next question... is it expected or not?
[16:17:48] <jancoow> not
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[16:18:18] <icebox> jancoow: ok... any doc link confirming your expectation?
[16:18:56] <icebox> jancoow: (if you replay it is not expected, you are saying there is a bug in angular)
[16:19:09] <jancoow> well, I don't expect it to happen
[16:19:16] <jancoow> I'm ofcourse wrong, because it does happen
[16:19:34] <icebox> jancoow: if you think you are wrong, you need to read again the docs :)
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[16:20:24] <jancoow> icebox: the docs you sended doesn't provide me enough information
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[16:20:45] <icebox> jancoow: and?
[16:21:02] <jancoow> that's why i'm asking it here.
[16:21:19] <jancoow> I don't wanna child routes rendering in his parent route
[16:21:28] <icebox> jancoow: nah... you are asking here because google is out of order on your side
[16:21:49] <jancoow> icebox: that's not true.
[16:22:08] <icebox> jancoow: ah nice... if goole works there, I am wondering you are not using it
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[16:22:31] <jancoow> icebox: I did use it.
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[16:22:35] <icebox> jancoow: and?
[16:22:46] <jancoow> icebox: I couldn't find a solution
[16:22:50] <jancoow> or explenation
[16:23:21] <icebox> jancoow: it seems weirdly... what did you try? any minimal working plunker reproducing your use case?
[16:24:11] <jancoow> icebox: I just wanna make sure if it's possible first. A simple question.
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[16:24:31] <jancoow> I'm not asking for a solution; just wanna make sure if it's possible what I want.
[16:24:48] <icebox> jancoow: docs or issues should address your question
[16:24:48] <jancoow> there is no plunker needed for that
[16:25:10] <jancoow> icebox: I couldn't find the answer.
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[16:26:46] <icebox> jancoow: there are 2 open issues and 10 closed about the error you provided... the first links in google seem relevant... did you explore those resources?
[16:27:08] <jancoow> icebox: I didn't found these links.
[16:27:42] <icebox> jancoow: if you think it is "a simple question", I am wondering you don't find yourself a reply
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[16:28:27] <icebox> jancoow: 10 wasted minutes... thanks
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[16:28:44] <jancoow> icebox: dude. Listen. I
[16:28:54] <Snugglebash> ....
[16:29:15] <jancoow> I'm asking a fucking question. If you are not interested, don't wanna answer or don't wanna waste 10 minutes don't fucking reply then. Jezus. Are you autistic or someting?
[16:29:32] <jancoow> If nobody knows the answer; fine don't answer
[16:29:34] <icebox> jancoow: language, please and don't insult me
[16:29:48] <jancoow> If you wanna help, then i'm aprecicating the help.
[16:29:49] <Snugglebash> jancoow: that is not acceptable
[16:30:16] <jancoow> but don't complain agains me that I WASTEd your 10 minutes
[16:31:07] <jancoow> Snugglebash: what?
[16:31:10] <Elarcis> jancoow: child routes by definition render inside their parents, you're asking for something that contradicts itself
[16:31:35] <Snugglebash> jancoow: dont be rude to icebox...
[16:33:02] <icebox> jancoow: my point was about the troubleshooting method... if you have a message error, you may search in github issues or directly in google... it seems to me there are relevant links
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[16:34:22] <icebox> jancoow: if you don't provide any context or any detail, we should make the same things maybe you did, another search, another reading and maybe a try with a plunker
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[16:36:26] <icebox> jancoow: this is the reasone I said 10 wasted minutes... if you asked, I tried this code (here the link), I get this (pastebin of the message) and I gave a look at these resources (a list of attempts) would be a more complete info for us
[16:36:59] <Elarcis> TIL semantic icons are just font awesome icons, but ALL renamed
[16:37:01] <Elarcis> http://semantic-ui.com/elements/icon.html
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[16:37:11] <Elarcis> what a stupid thing that makes this lib even more stupid
[16:39:26] <icebox> jancoow: without any context and highlighting was a general suggestion, I provided a resource...
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[16:40:12] <icebox> jancoow: anyway that error depends on a misconfiguration of the router like a missing provider... no idea without a snippet
[16:40:25] <icebox> jancoow: hope that helps
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[16:42:56] <heartburn> annnnnnnnnnd.....
[16:43:07] <heartburn> ............
[16:43:13] <heartburn> ........
[16:43:17] <heartburn> done!
[16:43:19] <heartburn> https://github.com/antonshulgin/pocketcasts-shortcuts
[16:44:10] <icebox> heartburn: but angular what for? :)
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[16:44:45] <heartburn> pocketcasts web interface is written with ng.
[16:46:07] <icebox> heartburn: I see... input[ng-model="search.title"]
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[16:47:16] <heartburn> that's the only thing i couldn't find a better way to tackle.
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[16:48:53] <Elarcis> heartburn: why redefine your own isFunction, isNumber, etc. when angular has them?
[16:49:08] <icebox> off... bye
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[16:49:10] <heartburn> dunno, a habit.
[16:49:12] <heartburn> o/
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[17:07:15] <Elarcis> kill meeeee
[17:07:52] <heartburn> pew
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[17:11:11] <baako> hi Elarcis sorry for my late reply been ill
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[17:29:55] <Elarcis> heartburn: thanks
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[17:30:18] <heartbur1> any time, buddy.
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[17:35:35] <Embassy> Hi all - is there a latest quickstart for ng2? I have been struggling the last couple of days to get ng to build my project and no matter what I do I just cant get the dammed thing to work. So to test my sanity I setup the quick start guide, installed the cli, ran ng build and low and behond I get the same error: "Cannot read property 'config' of null" What gives?
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[17:37:16] <Embassy> Is there any other way to deploy an AOT without using the CLI?
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[17:39:46] <Elarcis> Embassy: yes there is, but it's complicated if you don't use a starter project
[17:40:30] <Embassy> Elarcis: I am using a standard project so it should be fine. Where can I find an example of what to do?
[17:40:50] <Elarcis> Embassy: what do you mean by "standard project"?
[17:41:12] <Embassy> It uses the quick start guide... so the recommended layout etc.
[17:43:04] <Embassy> Ntw, I am going over this tutorial, will see how it works out: https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/cookbook/aot-compiler.html
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[17:48:14] <docmur> With md-input-contatiner, I can prevent the label from moving up when I focus the input? I want to use an icon instead so I don't wnat the icon moving up\
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[17:52:41] <Elarcis> Embassy: the quickstart guide is for discovering angular, it should not be used as a real working setup
[17:53:10] <Elarcis> Embassy: I reckon this is one of my least favorite aspects of angular: they are absolutely not clear on the recommended setup, and it's non-trivial to implement and guess by oneself
[17:53:33] <Elarcis> Embassy: " I setup the quick start guide, installed the cli"
[17:53:47] <Embassy> Elarcis: The basic file locations appear to be fine.
[17:53:51] <heartbur1> when in doubt, follow papa's guides.
[17:53:51] <Elarcis> Embassy: the cli tool can be used to build a preconfigured project setup, have you tried it?
[17:54:11] <Embassy> yes
[17:54:56] <Embassy> cant remember the command but something like: ng new app
[17:55:10] <Elarcis> Embassy: and it threw you an error, right out of the box?
[17:55:11] <heartbur1> don't know how good his ng2 recommendations are, but the ng1 styleguide was/is fucking *awesome*.
[17:55:32] <Elarcis> heartbur1: I believe he wrote the official ng2 styleguide
[17:55:42] <heartbur1> https://github.com/johnpapa/angular-styleguide/blob/master/a2/README.md
[17:55:44] <Embassy> Yes, thats what I just tried now. ng new project, ng build
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[17:56:10] <Elarcis> Embassy: what's the exact error you got?
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[17:56:20] <heartbur1> > The Angular 2 Style Guide has been moved to the Official Angular 2 docs.
[17:56:23] <heartbur1> ok, nevermind
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[17:57:27] <Embassy> Elarcis: Cannot read property 'config' of null" (just installing again and will re-run to make sure_
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[17:58:48] <Elarcis> Embassy: that's the whole error message? no stack trace, nothing else?
[17:59:02] <Elarcis> Embassy: sorry if I'm highly dubitative, your issue is weird
[17:59:28] <Embassy> Eleeleth: hmm thats embarrassing - now it does the build.
[17:59:47] <Embassy> I did update global settings so maybe that made a difference.
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[18:01:14] <Embassy> Elarcis: The build works now. Now its going to bug me as to why.
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[18:01:54] <rejns> hello, I'd like to ng-model input that is inside script tag with ng-template. How can i access value in ng-model from controller ?
[18:02:20] <Elarcis> Embassy: well glad the issue disappeared for now :D
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[18:02:59] <Elarcis> rejns: ng-model's is a variable path inside of your controller's scope, so it's basically accessible from the controller through the same path
[18:03:24] <Elarcis> rejns: your template contains itself a ng-controller attribute, in which case the ng-model is routed to it
[18:03:25] <Embassy> Elarcis: For now, will see what else I can break!
[18:04:04] <rejns> Elarcis, thank you I will investigate on that, ill be back for more :)
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[18:07:43] <rejns> Elarcis, there's no controller
[18:08:06] <Elarcis> rejns: there has to be one, or not your angular app cannot be bootstrapped
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[18:08:27] <rejns> i mean
[18:08:29] <Elarcis> rejns: sorry, or your angular app cannot be coded :D
[18:09:31] <rejns> there's controller for view but inside that view is a script tag <script type="text/ng-template" id="searchbox.tpl.html">
[18:09:48] <rejns> does this mean anything to you ?
[18:10:15] <rejns> and inside that script tag
[18:10:18] <rejns> is input tag
[18:10:30] <rejns> if i put input tag outside script tag it works
[18:10:35] <rejns> but wont work inside
[18:10:47] <rejns> is this the same issue we're talkin about ?
[18:10:51] <Embassy> Elarcis: Did not take me long to break again. Come of the code has jQuery in it and when it runs I get: "Cannot find name '$'" Where $ may be: $(document).on('click', '#loginButton', function(){
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[18:12:15] <Embassy> Works on my old code (4 months old code) but that code wont run a build... so hence porting old code into the ng new project...
[18:13:26] <Elarcis> Embassy: please read the doc for angular cli, then, your answer is 90% in there
[18:14:15] <Elarcis> Embassy: (and I tell you that because I read how to configure global libs yesterday)
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[18:14:59] <Embassy> Elarcis: Np - been reading a lot lately :D
[18:15:14] <Elarcis> Embassy: also, did you make sure you followed this guide to minimize struggle? https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/wiki/stories-moving-into-the-cli
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[18:16:22] <Embassy> Elarcis: Looks useful... did not see that.
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[18:17:41] <Elarcis> Embassy: lots of guides in the wiki
[18:19:51] <Embassy> hmm seems my old awesome app was not as structured as I thought...
[18:21:26] <Embassy> My old app does not have this: cp -r ../old-awesome-app/e2e ./e2e/ is that a deal breaker?
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[18:30:15] <Embassy> Here is an error in the documentation, or an assumption... Instead of using <script> and <link> tags directly in index.html, use .angular-cli.json instead. Perhaps a reference to the file?
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[18:32:06] <jeremie_> hi, i'm trying to follow a simple tutorial on angular2, and in the purpose to understand a bit more what's going on, iwas hoping to debug my application, using vscode
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[18:33:39] <Elarcis> Embassy: what?
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[18:34:00] <jeremie_> But when i'm trying to do so, with the following launch.json file => http://pastebin.com/mYz3WTeT
[18:34:43] <Elarcis> jeremie_: that's a VSCode issue
[18:34:52] <jeremie_> Elarcis: ho
[18:34:54] <jeremie_> ok
[18:34:57] <jeremie_> sorry then,...
[18:35:10] <jeremie_> Elarcis: have a nice day o/
[18:35:12] <Elarcis> jeremie_: np, but tell me the issue anyway
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[18:35:24] <Elarcis> suit yourself
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[18:36:45] <Embassy> Elarcis: The documentation states "Instead of using <script> and <link> tags directly in index.html, use .angular-cli.json instead" so obviously a json file is linked to from the index.html file. However, anyone who is doing this for the first time will want to see an example.
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[18:38:21] <jeremie_> sorry, i had a problem with my connexion, did anyone answered me in the meantime ?
[18:38:26] <jeremie_> >__<"
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[19:27:04] <heartbur1> https://youtu.be/oMxIlXW56cQ?t=77
[19:27:17] <heartbur1> "when do we get 'boom'?"
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[21:03:53] <jancoow> When I use for example @Input() public idExtention: number; in my class, and create a directive with the arguments this works fine. However, when I place the @input in my base class, extend it with another class and then create a directive of the child class, I get an error that it's a unknown property.
[21:04:07] <jancoow> Is it true that the @input doesn't work when placing it in the parent class?
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[21:22:24] <uru> jancoow: Yes, unforuntalty it's to do with the way decoraters compile down to JS and stuff like that
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[21:22:48] <uru> *unfortunatly
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[21:33:21] <jancoow> uru: okay :) Thanks for the explenation.
[21:33:36] <jancoow> Then I have to let this in my child class :)
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[21:34:35] <uru> jancoow: Generally I've avoided using class inheratance with components
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[21:36:01] <jancoow> another question, Based on the results from a rest api, i've to view some components. What I do is I loop through a array in the view. What I want is that I can "include"/ show some directives here
[21:36:09] <jancoow> what is a possible way to do this?
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[21:36:28] <uru> Just call the directives via the selector
[21:36:45] <uru> `<my-directive *ngFor="..."></my-directive`
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[21:37:17] <uru> RTFM ;)
[21:38:16] <jancoow> uru: unfortinally, it's a bit different. I've a list of objects with different "extentions IDS". So if the extention ID is 0, then <extention_0></extention_0>, if 1 then..
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[21:38:58] <uru> Sounds like you need to take a step back and actually look at what you are doing then. That sounds very odd.
[21:39:03] <jancoow> i've currently in total 20 different extentions so 20 different directives so 20 different views
[21:39:13] <jancoow> uru: mm okay :)
[21:39:37] <jancoow> uru: Do you have a suggestion?
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[21:40:04] <uru> Not without knowing more about your app and everything around it. My rate is £500/day ;)
[21:40:22] <jancoow> okay ;p
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[21:41:49] <jancoow> but yeah; every extention has a different view and a different controller, so that's why I choosed for directives
[21:42:05] <jancoow> but every extention extends from a base class tho
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[21:43:53] <uru> What exactly is an "extension"?
[21:45:05] <jancoow> uru: an extention is simply a component. A extention in my system could be a temperature sensor (with a graph), humidity sensor, movement sensor, light switch etc.
[21:45:26] <uru> ah ok, having seperate directives for each sounds like a good idea then
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[21:45:50] <jancoow> that's great to hear :)
[21:46:41] <jancoow> so yeah, based on the "room" view (system have different rooms which contains different extentions) the correct extentions have to be viewed on that page
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[21:47:46] <jancoow> what I did in angular 1 was simply included: ng-include=idExtentionType+".html" (pseudo code, something like that) in a for loop, looping over all the extentions
[21:48:06] <uru> Yea, just thinking about how I'd tackle that myself
[21:48:16] <uru> Did a quick google and this came up http://plnkr.co/edit/wh4VJG?p=preview
[21:49:09] <uru> Not sure if that would help you but possibly could help clean up your code some
[21:50:10] <jancoow> It looks a bit complicted but I will try to understand :)
[21:50:24] <jancoow> yeah it's hard to keep the code clean because the many different views, controllers etc.
[21:51:06] <uru> It's basically the same as ng1's $compile, if that helps at all (never used ng1 so can't say how it compares)
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[21:53:58] <jancoow> uru: just thinking about something else.. would a ngSwitch not be somewhat easier?
[21:54:12] <jancoow> okay true; you get 20 linus of code for each directive
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[21:54:39] <jancoow> but it's less plain to implement the cache control etc. yourself
[21:54:41] <uru> ngSwitch?
[21:54:42] <jancoow> pain*
[21:54:53] <jancoow> uru: https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/structural-directives.html#!#ngswitch
[21:55:32] <MrKeuner> hi, is there an abundance of typescript development tools in Linux?
[21:55:34] <uru> oh neat, that did not exist when I started out with angular. Yea, that would help you loads I think :)
[21:55:50] <uru> MrKeuner: Wrong channel.
[21:55:56] <jancoow> MrKeuner: jetbrains webstorms works great :)
[21:56:16] <uru> jancoow: phpstorm user myself :)
[21:56:31] <jancoow> uru: all jetbrains tools are the same ;p
[21:56:41] <uru> Yea, just different feature sets
[21:56:53] <MrKeuner> type script seems to be a deal breaker for me.
[21:57:22] <uru> MrKeuner: There are plenty of tools, pretty much all of them run on node. If you are looking for an IDE there are plenty of those out there too
[21:57:26] <TweedleDee> VSCode?
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[21:58:09] <MrKeuner> not a fan of proprietary tools.
[21:58:18] <TweedleDee> not sure how thats a deal breaker... TypeScript is javascript
[21:58:34] <MrKeuner> TweedleDee, it is not. it is a superset of javascript.
[21:58:40] <TweedleDee> I use it every-day bud.
[21:58:42] <uru> MrKeuner: You're better off asking google then. This channel is for support for angularjs/angular frameworks
[21:58:45] <TweedleDee> I know what it is.
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[21:59:08] <TweedleDee> Sounds like you don't really understand it from the way you're talking.
[21:59:18] <illug> If I want to start looking into Angular 2 should I look into TypeScript, or can I (should I?) use plain old ES5 javascript?
[21:59:35] <TweedleDee> TypeScript
[21:59:40] <uru> illug: You can use either. The offical docs are more typescript orented though
[22:00:26] <jancoow> uru: thanks for the help and thinking ! :)
[22:00:42] <uru> jancoow: No worries, happy to have been of some help :)
[22:00:50] <illug> Is there a good chance TypeScript will completelly replace ES5/ES6 in the future?
[22:00:57] <TweedleDee> nope
[22:01:01] <jancoow> uru: I do owe you $500/18 now haha, stole 30 minuts of your day! xD
[22:01:08] <TweedleDee> it will evolve along side it tho
[22:01:18] <uru> jancoow: GBP, not USD ;P
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[22:01:36] <uru> jancoow: I certanly won't comain if you want to "buy me a beer" ;)
[22:01:50] <jancoow> ^^
[22:02:06] <MrKeuner> Writing javascript code doesn't mean the script you execute is javascript. You write in javascript and interpret it with typescript engine. I would say this makes the executed code typescript
[22:02:59] <TweedleDee> I won't spend time talking about transpiling, its a very simple process and you can read up on it.
[22:03:43] <TweedleDee> its javascript you're executing
[22:03:45] <jancoow> Just try typescript first. I never used typescript before angular 2 but it's really easy to learn with a javascript background
[22:04:03] <jancoow> well "learn" its basicly javascript with some extras
[22:04:36] <MrKeuner> learning is not a problem. Anybody can learn anything. Matter is to choose what to learn or not.
[22:04:55] <jancoow> I would simply say: If you want to use angular 2, you need to learn typescript
[22:05:02] <TweedleDee> well you clearing need to learn something, because you're attempting to speak on things you don't have any ability to speak on
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[22:05:53] <illug> Well, I'm mainly a java developer, thought I do use ES5 in most of the projects I work on. Had a bit experience with Angular 1 a couple of years ago, don't remember anything though. I'm starting a personal project now and I'm just trying to decide if I want to use Angular 1 or 2.
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[22:06:49] <uru> illug: If you are fimilar with java then TS might be less of a "shock" to you as it's somewhat more similar than vanilla JS
[22:07:26] <illug> uru: I've seen that. But I do use javascript on almost a daily bases anyway
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[22:07:52] <uru> illug: In that case it's up to you. You can code either ng1 or ng2 in both JS or TS if you want
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[22:08:02] * eago moved to react
[22:08:08] <eago> I really like angular 1
[22:08:15] <uru> Personally I'd recomend angular over angularjs, but I've no experance with v1
[22:08:18] <eago> but angular 2 I don't like
[22:08:47] <jancoow> everything what was nasty in angular 1 is fixed in 2
[22:09:10] <TweedleDee> literally the only adjustment period I needed was observables over promises
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[22:09:25] <jancoow> TweedleDee: agree!
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[22:09:35] <uru> TweedleDee: observer.toPromise(), done!
[22:09:42] <eago> maybe for really big projects it can be good... but is too complex
[22:09:51] <illug> Angular 1 has more examples, info etc. online though, which is one of the good things about it I guess
[22:09:52] <eago> I just like simpler things
[22:10:13] <eago> I guess I favor a library over a framework
[22:10:22] <jancoow> eago: It isn't complexer, it's just differnet and you need to learn working with it
[22:10:23] <uru> eago: I do agree with you there, I build a huge SPA so ng2 makes more sense than 1, if I was building something small I'd use something else
[22:10:34] <jancoow> yeah it's different, you need to compile and setup your tools etc.
[22:10:52] <uru> "huge" being over 350 .ts files when I last checked
[22:11:00] <jancoow> uru: wow! :D
[22:11:55] <eago> jancoow: yes... I'd have to learn it well... jsut when I was learning it, it just felt like not for me...
[22:12:12] <eago> if I were doing a huge single page app I'd look at it again
[22:12:21] <uru> eago: Nothing wrong with that. It's good you choose tools over "what you like"
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[22:12:48] <eago> but for average website i think is an overkill and not too flexible
[22:13:21] <eago> I mean... if using another libary I have to angularize it
[22:13:24] <eago> can't just use it
[22:13:43] <eago> so for my average project is no good...
[22:13:46] <uru> Perhaps overkill, but I'd not say it's inflexable. We've got multiple apps, a couple large SPAs and a fewer smaller components that get loaded in to the page. We also have no 3rd party stuff
[22:13:50] <jancoow> Well, you are not the only one ;) Many students on my school are thinking the same way and choose react over angular
[22:14:18] <eago> but you have to angularize 3d stuff uru
[22:14:31] <uru> 3d stuff?
[22:14:38] <eago> 3th party
[22:14:42] <eago> 3rd
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[22:15:20] <uru> Oh, well yea, but it's not all that hard, I've done it a few times for jquery UI and a few other things. Was jut a case of making sure my directives that wrap around them are set up correctly
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[22:16:00] <uru> There's also a growing ecosystem of intergrations for ng2 as well, it's not all that old after all
[22:16:40] <eago> yup... I'm sure is very cool... is just not good for my kind of project right now
[22:16:59] <uru> Fair enough :)
[22:17:00] <eago> if I were to create a big single page app I'd look at it again
[22:17:19] <eago> but or the most common litte javascript apps i favor react
[22:17:20] <jancoow> about that' do you know how to implement flot chart? Do i have to write my own derective around it or something
[22:17:46] <eago> easier to have multiple individual boottaps for example
[22:17:50] <uru> jancoow: Personally I'd write a directive around it to act as a bridge between the two worlds
[22:18:03] <eago> bootstraps
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[22:18:25] <uru> eago: Really? The stuff I work on has multiple entry points that bootstrap in different ways
[22:18:35] <jancoow> uru: that would probably the best way;
[22:18:41] <jancoow> I've no clue how it works with importing etc.
[22:18:47] <uru> (not arguing here, just curious about hwo the approaches differ)
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[22:19:25] <uru> jancoow: Just make sure the 3rd party stuff is included on the page before ng loads, then you can use a .d.ts file (take a look at typescript type definitions) to make sure it compiles
[22:19:27] <jancoow> i'm using inspinia admin theme and there are 800 modules laoded
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[22:20:34] <eago> I think so uru... you can do it in both I guess... I just find it more natural with react
[22:21:04] <uru> eago: cool, react is on my "to learn" list but then there's much much else as well
[22:21:19] <eago> hehe... yup... I know the feeling
[22:21:29] <eago> always want to learn it all
[22:21:58] <uru> lol yea. Was quite happy that work said "we want a angular 2 spa, go" and I was able to just jump in and build it :)
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[22:22:26] <uru> Before that I'd never worked with JS outside tiny bits of jquery
[22:22:39] <eago> I used to hate js
[22:22:53] <uru> I started out with PHP, only goes up from there ;)
[22:23:02] <eago> now that I've been using it for long... and with es6 improvements I'm liking it
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[22:24:00] <eago> I'm liking the functional way... I want to learn haskell or something like that to really learn pure functional
[22:24:10] <eago> but I like how js let you do whatever
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[22:24:19] <uru> I did haskell at uni, was fun but never had the oppunity to use it in the real world
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[22:27:36] <eago> well... that'll serve you well in js world
[22:27:48] <eago> you can use js as pure functional
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[22:28:19] <uru> Yea, uni was good. Covered functional and parallel programming as well as traditional OOP
[22:28:20] <eago> its the good and bad thing of js... is so flexible... so people (including me) makes a lot of crap
[22:28:31] <uru> lol
[22:29:34] <eago> its very easy to do ugly stuff
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[22:29:46] <eago> because it lets you do whatever
[22:30:23] <jancoow> uru: This is the solution implemented ;p https://jancokock.me/f/62b3b/ Now I need to add the other 18 extentions haha
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[22:30:56] <uru> jancoow: Good luck!
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[22:37:24] <E1arcis> finally got why angular.io wasn't working on my PC, turns out BitDefender's SSL scan blocked angular.io back when they had their SSL certificates issues and never unblocked it
[22:37:25] <E1arcis> phew
[22:37:36] <uru> oops
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[23:06:57] <coder_2014> hello, is it possible to share a component I've created between different Angular2 projects?
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