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[00:04:49] <rand0m> It's confirmed. I'm starting tomorrow \o/
[00:05:01] <rand0m> have fun people, I'll have some zzZzZs
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[01:10:51] <Zythyr> wafflejock Hi
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[01:53:56] <nomoney4me> question: anyone know why my directive is not working in the ng-repeat? http://pastebin.com/XS9uKj9H
[01:57:41] <heartburn> post a normal plunker that reproduces the issue.
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[02:29:49] <nomoney4me> heartburn, https://plnkr.co/edit/rlQQvZoqJnAocwG6wCJ3?p=preview (I had to copy/paste the timepicker.js from https://github.com/jonthornton/jquery-timepicker)
[02:30:32] <nomoney4me> I have not even visit the angularjs part of the test, but it seems plunkr is stopping it so pasting the code into plunkr does not help much.
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[02:36:26] <nomoney4me> nvm, found it
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[08:05:23] <icebox> Setting up your first Angular (2) Project Using Angular Material2 - https://medium.com/ at ladyleet/setting-up-your-first-angular-2-project-using-angular-material2-5db18a174165# dot 3pd4yqkg4
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[08:12:13] <rand0m> oi icebox :D
[08:12:15] <rand0m> morning
[08:12:23] <icebox> rand0m: hey
[08:12:31] <rand0m> what are you doing here this early :p
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[08:18:57] <icebox> rand0m: local time about 08.00
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[08:23:43] <pLaTo0n> moin
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[08:36:26] <rand0m> hay its 7:30am here
[08:36:42] <rand0m> whats moin pLaTo0n
[08:36:56] <pLaTo0n> guten morgen
[08:37:00] <pLaTo0n> good morning
[08:37:10] <icebox> rand0m: yep... GMT vs. GMT+1 :)
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[08:37:19] <rand0m> oic
[08:37:21] <pLaTo0n> 8:37 am here
[08:37:27] <rand0m> guten morgen to you too :D
[08:37:33] <pLaTo0n> :)
[08:37:34] <rand0m> ohaio gozaimasu
[08:37:46] <rand0m> shubodaya
[08:37:58] <rand0m> buenos dias
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[08:38:10] <rand0m> thats the only thing i know :>
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[08:39:01] <rand0m> i start work in 2 hours
[08:39:08] <rand0m> they want me to bring my laptop :s
[08:39:13] <pLaTo0n> I'm at work since one hour
[08:40:06] <icebox> rand0m: good luck! :)
[08:40:27] <pLaTo0n> mac? linux? windows?
[08:40:27] <rand0m> thanks icebox
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[08:43:14] <icebox> rand0m: don't forget to bring your preferred editor :)
[08:44:01] <rand0m> I work on a java based cms which costs millions of pounds in licensing
[08:44:19] <rand0m> and the company is giving away a copy of that cms for me and others to work on ??
[08:44:55] <rand0m> isn't that dumb? I could actually rewrite some classes and make sure that it doesnt check for authenticity and use the cms for myself
[08:45:01] <rand0m> whats there to stop me?
[08:45:41] <rand0m> ofcourse I won't be doing that, but I think its dumb to give away a new employee the keys to your safe
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[08:50:26] <rand0m> hay icebox I'll pm you a link to my app
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[08:58:29] <Miaow> hello ! let's say i have a user who can create some tasks. i have created 2 services (UserService & TaskService) which allow me to do some stuff. So my question : what is the best practice between having a method getTasks() on UserService, and having a method getTasks(user) in the TaskService ?? tyvm
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[09:02:36] <icebox> Miaow: what is your concern about that?
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[09:04:12] <Miaow> icebox: ?
[09:04:37] <icebox> Miaow: what are you asking for?
[09:05:09] <icebox> Miaow: I don't see any issue, apart the naming
[09:05:28] <Miaow> my concern is the best pratice to do what i want (through this simple use case) : get user tasks
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[09:05:46] <Miaow> it's not only an Angular question
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[09:06:11] <icebox> Miaow: and what is your concern? you created a method in the controller calling a method of a service
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[09:06:53] <icebox> Miaow: or you are calling a method of a service from another service
[09:07:00] <icebox> Miaow: and?
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[09:10:41] <rand0m> aright i'm off
[09:10:44] <rand0m> cheerios
[09:10:49] <icebox> rand0m: :)
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[09:21:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
[09:21:59] <Pyrrhus666> morning icebox !
[09:22:32] <Miaow> icebox: that's my question, where shall i have to place the getTasks() method ? in the UserService or in the TaskService knowing that i have to have the userID data ?
[09:23:04] <icebox> Miaow: TaskService
[09:23:18] <icebox> Miaow: userID is a parameter
[09:24:15] <icebox> Miaow: but there is not best practice... it depends on how you designed your data model
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[09:25:43] <icebox> Miaow: from a point of view creating pure functions (no side effects), it would be better using an explicit parameter
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[09:26:54] <Miaow> icebox: i dont' have anything yet, i wondered what i should do
[09:27:18] <Miaow> the only thing i know is that my User object has an array of Tasks
[09:27:23] <icebox> Miaow: ok... but really it is not an angular question, neither js one :)
[09:27:45] <icebox> Miaow: it is a sort of how to design my api" :)
[09:27:55] <Miaow> not, that's what i told you, that's not only an angular question
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[09:28:09] <icebox> Miaow: I suggest to follow a TDD approach
[09:28:30] <icebox> Miaow: surely you will have a few iterations
[09:28:39] <icebox> refactory the code a few times
[09:28:45] <icebox> *refactoring
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[09:53:51] <Elarcis> hi!
[09:54:12] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[09:54:16] <Miaow> icebox: ok ty
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[09:55:19] <icebox> Miaow: you are welcome
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[09:57:53] <Miaow> i think i'll retrieve Tasks from the TaskService by using the user id, but maybe i shouldn't attach a tasks array to my user model ?
[09:58:14] <Miaow> keep the datas separated
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[09:59:34] <icebox> Miaow: feasible... when you think on it you should ask yourself "what if data is updated and how the changes are propagated?"
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[10:00:25] <icebox> Miaow: then there are different kind of objects... business objects, dao objects, display objects and so on :)
[10:00:49] <icebox> Miaow: generally speaking, you need to outline an application architecture :)
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[10:01:50] <icebox> Miaow: but here we enter in consultant domain :) how many hours your team have and what is your budget? :)
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[10:01:59] <Miaow> lol
[10:02:43] <Miaow> my team is me and my budget is none
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[10:03:28] <icebox> Miaow: ah sorry... we interface only 500 Fortune companies :)
[10:03:52] <icebox> Elarcis: http://objectmodel.js.org
[10:04:14] <icebox> Elarcis: strong dynamic type checking
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[10:05:05] <zomg> they get the typescript/flow comparison wrong though...
[10:05:14] <zomg> yeah, ts and flow won't do stuff dynamically
[10:05:26] <zomg> but the whole point is if you use them correctly, your data *will not be wrong* even during runtime
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[10:05:45] <zomg> so of course if you pass `any` as a `string` without validating it, yeah you're going to be fucked
[10:05:52] <zomg> :D
[10:06:26] <icebox> zomg: agreed... anyway it is a nice try :)
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[10:13:04] <icebox> Get Angular 1 Features in Angular 2 - https://scotch.io/tutorials/get-angular-1-features-in-angular-2
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[10:20:48] <Pyrrhus666> I have a small war inside vscode. the formatter and linter cannot agree how my code should look :(
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[10:24:18] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: snippet?
[10:26:26] <Pyrrhus666> an example is : code format does ¨f() {}¨, linter wants ¨f () {}¨. the linter is correct, but I can´t seem to convince the formatter of this :)
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[10:27:15] <Miaow> icebox: ahah ^^
[10:27:38] <Pyrrhus666> ah. seems I should install a plugin for that. quelle surprise.
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[10:29:49] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I see... usually I follow strictly the original eslint-config and I don't use any formatter
[10:30:30] <graingert> Pyrrhus666: what's your code formater
[10:30:34] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I don´t use the formatter often, but as I´m a bit sloppy it would be nice if they both do the same thing ;)
[10:31:07] <Pyrrhus666> graingert, vscode internal, now experimenting with the beautify plugin
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[10:31:31] <Pyrrhus666> I want a formatter that I can point at my .eslintrc :(
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[10:31:37] <graingert> Pyrrhus666: just use eslint --fix
[10:31:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... but I abandoned that unicorn a few years ago :)
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[10:34:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I would give a try to graingert's suggestion
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[10:35:47] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: but, as I said, it doesn't exist that kind of unicorn... for instance, what about blank lines? of course "--fix" cannot add them following your tastes
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[10:43:43] <amharris> hey, icebox. pm? got a couple of quick questions
[10:44:08] <icebox> amharris: no pm, please... here in the channel... so other users may help
[10:44:24] <amharris> icebox: sure thing, sorry.
[10:44:29] <icebox> amharris: no problem
[10:45:13] <amharris> so, a while back I was working on some bits for an Angular modal, if you recall. I fixed that but revisiting the project, I still need to make it dynamic/relevant for content.
[10:45:27] <amharris> I'm using ngDialog
[10:46:00] <amharris> I can seem to use {{foo.bar}} within the ngDialog <script> modal inclusions.
[10:46:03] <amharris> can't*
[10:46:08] <amharris> they don't render
[10:47:01] <amharris> I did a fair bit of digging and am somewhat confident that I may need to set up a controller to pull the data into the scope, but am having trouble doing this.
[10:47:52] <amharris> the data is a JSON API endpoint and always at a particular URL (for this page); so do I need to somehow feed that into $rootScope; and if so, how?
[10:48:16] <icebox> amharris: ok... I don't use ngDialog... but it seems you are on the right path... it seems you need to pass "some var" to the dialog
[10:48:41] <icebox> amharris: root scope is out of question... forget it :)
[10:49:35] <icebox> amharris: I see you can pass a controller
[10:50:48] <amharris> icebox: so I can pass values to render _from_ the ngDialog usage controller I've written, but I need to get my data to that.
[10:51:51] <amharris> icebox: I would've just prefered if it could render {{foo.bar}} as usual. I assume being in a <script> within a template is the problem and is preventing that?
[10:52:11] <icebox> amharris: you use case should be a common case
[10:52:21] <amharris> icebox: common case?
[10:52:46] <icebox> amharris: your use case should not be so inusual
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[10:53:17] <icebox> amharris: try to provide a plunker reproducing your use case and we may give a look at it
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[10:55:53] <heartburn> "The real programmers will say “Yeah it works but you’re leaking memory everywhere. Perhaps we should fix that.” I’ll just restart Apache every 10 requests."
[10:56:05] <heartburn> https://medium.com/ at WordcorpGlobal/programming-doesnt-require-talent-or-even-passion-11422270e1e4# dot 424wl8hgw
[10:57:34] <amharris> icebox: it's just a bit awkward to, given the data coming from a headless Drupal instance in real-time
[10:57:53] <amharris> icebox: basically, recreating how that works isn't the quickest thing
[10:58:09] <icebox> amharris: no problem... you can use $http in plunker to fetch data
[10:58:10] <amharris> icebox: though I can happily ping you the front-end code and explain what doesn't work
[10:58:19] <icebox> amharris: or simply you cam mock them
[10:58:40] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, a really lazy person makes apache do that itself.
[10:58:58] <heartburn> C R O N S U P R E M A C Y
[10:58:59] <icebox> amharris: really I would not prefer to debug the whole app :) I think ten lines of code should reproduce your use case
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[10:59:13] <icebox> amharris: no plunker, no party :)
[10:59:14] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, nah, apache has it builtin.
[10:59:48] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, it´s actually very useful, due to all the other programmers making leaky stuff.
[11:01:01] <icebox> heartburn: well... that post proves the opposite :)
[11:01:42] <icebox> heartburn: what is the difference between Talent or Even Passion and Hard Work? :)
[11:02:33] <heartburn> for hard work, you get paid.
[11:02:33] <amharris> icebox: I didn't mean the entire thing. ;-) I meant the usage of ngDialog controller script and the relevant section of my template :P
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[11:04:01] <icebox> heartburn: in an interview the journalist said to a great violinist he had a great talent... the violinist replied for all the life he had been playing 12 hours per day
[11:04:28] <heartburn> well, i don't see a contradiction. :o)
[11:04:53] <icebox> heartburn: exactly... so the title is false :)
[11:06:03] <ngm> icebox: i figured out a solution for yesterdays issue to get the element in the current viewport. And now iam trying to lazy load videos. any help with this? i can only find the results for images
[11:06:03] <Pyrrhus666> talent does play into it though, because not everybody can play the violin, not even after doing it 30 years 12 hours a day...
[11:06:04] <heartburn> well, i used to code 8 hours a day for a few years.
[11:06:20] <heartburn> was it a passionate experience? fuck no.
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[11:06:48] <heartburn> but hey, i did pretty well anyway. they wanted to promote me, but i quit instead.
[11:07:07] <icebox> ngm: nice
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[11:08:35] <heartburn> what i learned from that is, what one calls 'an elegant abstraction' another would call 'over-engineering'.
[11:08:36] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, so, talented...
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[11:08:44] <icebox> heartburn: X Doesn’t Require Talent or Even Passion... you can say it for anything... and that statement is false until we define Talend and Passion :)
[11:08:46] <heartburn> lol no.
[11:09:18] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, we can agree that they´re not the same, at least ?
[11:09:38] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed
[11:09:53] <heartburn> don't go all philosophical on me m8.
[11:10:06] <icebox> heartburn: :P
[11:10:20] <icebox> heartburn: sorry... I am too "meta" :)
[11:11:03] <icebox> *too much
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[11:13:02] <heartburn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz2-49q6DOI
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[11:16:03] <heartburn> my loins are glowing with passion for programming.
[11:18:03] <heartburn> gonna put it in my cv.
[11:20:22] <FatNoLife> i'm sure you'll be taken
[11:20:38] <FatNoLife> just make sure you have a private office
[11:20:52] <FatNoLife> if your loins start glowing in an openspace it will be awkward
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[11:23:50] <heartburn> https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonshulgin
[11:25:15] <Elarcis> today's a shit day
[11:25:19] <Elarcis> mind my words
[11:25:27] <Elarcis> or is it mark my words?
[11:25:34] <Elarcis> I never remember
[11:25:54] <FatNoLife> mind my words would mean "sorry about swearing"
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[11:26:11] <FatNoLife> whereas mark my words would mean "you can be sure of it"
[11:26:21] <Snugglebash> Morning
[11:26:25] <FatNoLife> hi
[11:26:33] <FatNoLife> Snugglebash, i see you often here
[11:26:44] <Snugglebash> FatNoLife: I <3 this channel
[11:26:52] <FatNoLife> i have a question... to quote professor oak from pokémon : are you a boy or a girl?
[11:27:11] <Snugglebash> a male of the species
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[11:27:43] <FatNoLife> why the "Snuggle" in your nickname then. it can suscite confusion
[11:28:06] <FatNoLife> whereas my nickname can leave no doubt
[11:28:22] <Snugglebash> Sure
[11:28:42] <Snugglebash> I used it as a gaming nick for a long time
[11:29:04] <FatNoLife> like a care-bear playing counter-strike?
[11:29:14] <FatNoLife> or doom
[11:29:33] <FatNoLife> "i wuv you!" *headshot*
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[11:31:21] <Snugglebash> sure
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[11:44:04] <icebox> OT: Immutable Laws of Software: Anyone slower than you is over-engineering, anyone faster is introducing technical debt. - https://twitter.com/0x604/status/706267451655221249
[11:44:16] <coder_2014> hi, I'm trying to bind some properties of a svg <text> element but I get this Can't bind to 'text-anchor' since it isn't a known property of ':svg:text'. any help would be appreciated
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[11:44:32] <icebox> coder_2014: you can't... svg
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[11:45:06] <icebox> coder_2014: googling for alternate solutions
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[11:45:43] <coder_2014> icebox: isn't it possible to bind svg properties from angular2 then?
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[11:46:19] <icebox> coder_2014: https://teropa.info/blog/2016/12/12/graphics-in-angular-2.html
[11:47:21] <icebox> coder_2014: highlighting "Using Attribute Binding Instead of Property Binding"
[11:47:29] <icebox> coder_2014: hope that helps
[11:48:03] <coder_2014> icebox: thank you very much - appreciate it
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[12:12:08] <ngm> anyhelp with lazy loading video in video tag?
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[12:27:27] <Guest29848> hi
[12:27:39] <rand0m> hi guru
[12:27:42] <rand0m> I know its you
[12:27:59] <rand0m> I can see through your disguise
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[12:29:23] <Guest29848> how to implement angular.copy
[12:29:25] <Guest29848> ?
[12:30:11] <rand0m> $scope.variable = angular.copy(objectName.property);
[12:30:12] <rand0m> ?
[12:30:32] <rand0m> oh wait
[12:30:51] <Guest29848> i want how angular implemented it
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[12:31:23] <heartburn> the source is up there buddy, why not take a look?
[12:31:25] <rand0m> strange :|
[12:31:58] <Guest29848> hmm thats a good thing
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[12:32:59] <heartburn> Guest29848: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/Angular.js#L897
[12:35:38] <Guest29848> thanks
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[12:40:31] <Guest29848> can anybody share me a good logout code
[12:41:01] <Guest29848> after i do logout and $route.reload() still if i press back button its pointing a old url
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[12:44:20] <Guest29848> can anybody share me a good logout code [17:11] <Guest29848> after i do logout and $route.reload() still if i press back button its pointing a old url
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[12:54:50] <Pyrrhus666> Guest29848, that´s normal, your browsers history doesn´t care whether you logged out or not.
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[12:59:52] <Snugglebash> Guest29848: Just make sure that all your very nice resources are protected server side
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[13:05:24] <Elarcis> back and my heart is (likely) still beating!
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[13:08:14] <rand0m> hay Elarcis Pyrrhus666 :D
[13:08:30] <Pyrrhus666> hey rand0m Elarcis :)
[13:09:01] <Elarcis> hey rand0m Pyrrhus666 D:
[13:09:14] <rand0m> whats wrong, why the D: face
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[13:09:28] <Elarcis> rand0m: you are what's wrong
[13:09:34] <rand0m> psh
[13:09:37] <Elarcis> rand0m: well, everybody, really
[13:09:43] * rand0m kicks elarcis :p
[13:10:00] <rand0m> I need a new laptop :(
[13:10:11] <Pyrrhus666> I concur. everybody is wrong.
[13:10:51] <rand0m> that makes you wrong too Pyrrhus666
[13:11:14] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, yup. humanity is just wrong on all levels.
[13:11:15] <rand0m> and that infers that your statement everybody is wrong is wrong
[13:11:19] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I'm glad they didn't stress this out with me :D
[13:11:29] <rand0m> so everybody is right?
[13:11:38] <Elarcis> rand0m: rembember when I said you were what's wrong? that's why
[13:11:46] <rand0m> hah I know
[13:11:51] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, stop twisting my words ! everybody is wrong.
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[13:21:18] <heartburn> i'm not wrong tho.
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[13:23:45] <G1eb> hi I have a form related question
[13:24:11] <G1eb> I have a custom directive and sometimes it gets an initial value and sometimes not
[13:24:48] <G1eb> When initial value is set, changing that value does not update form's $dirty and $pristine flags
[13:24:56] <G1eb> here is a plunkr http://plnkr.co/edit/GIrm45gEWGA4gDsAhMF3?p=preview
[13:25:16] <G1eb> any idea what's preventing those form state flags to update properly?
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[13:25:58] <arlekin> hi guys
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[13:26:44] <arlekin> so im trying to evolve, take things to the next level, so im gonna refactor my app to use component tree design model, and ES6 modules and webpack
[13:26:57] <arlekin> hype is overflowing in general
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[13:27:05] <arlekin> anyway... i ran into trouble
[13:27:06] <arlekin> http://dpaste.com/086CRV4
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[13:27:18] <arlekin> first part is code, second is error i got
[13:27:33] <arlekin> angular console errors are absolutely atrocious
[13:27:56] <arlekin> but it *feels* like there is something wrong with importing angular
[13:28:07] <arlekin> as always im talking ng 1
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[13:31:04] <Elarcis> arlekin: import * as angular from 'angular'
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[13:31:19] <Elarcis> arlekin: this is not the same thing
[13:31:30] <heartburn> G1eb: once you did something to the field, it stays $dirty and !$pristine until you explicitly tell it otherwise.
[13:31:43] <heartburn> your plunker is working as expected.
[13:32:05] <arlekin> Elarcis: did what you said, didn't change a thing
[13:32:26] <G1eb> heartburn yeah that is if you change the first directive where value is not set
[13:32:42] <G1eb> heartburn if you change the second one with initial value set $dirty does not change :(
[13:33:10] <arlekin> Elarcis: im loosely following todd motto's styleguide
[13:33:19] <arlekin> Elarcis: and he just went without "as"
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[13:33:50] <heartburn> ah i see
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[13:33:53] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin, I go without too, just fine
[13:34:16] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: well, i have it in node modules folder v 1.6.2
[13:34:22] <arlekin> dunno what can it be
[13:34:41] <G1eb> heartburn it's a similar issue to this plunkr: https://plnkr.co/edit/qQ50aUMuaB8UxfTcZHbT?p=preview
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[13:34:52] <icebox> angular 4 supports ts 2.1 (breaking change with ts 1.8)
[13:35:02] <G1eb> onload textarea makes the form dirty even though i did not interact with it yet
[13:35:08] <arlekin> i assume that without path explicitely stated webpack assumes node_modules folder, but i have no idea about angular.js' readiness to be used as an ES6 Module
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[13:35:15] <icebox> Elarcis: ^
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[13:37:05] <arlekin> when i console.log'ed both angular and angular.module it seems alright, angular is an object with method module()
[13:37:11] <arlekin> im confused as fuck
[13:37:32] <icebox> arlekin: you should not... it works as usual hehehehe :)
[13:37:41] <arlekin> icebox: -.-"
[13:37:59] <icebox> arlekin: appreciated "as usual"
[13:38:07] <icebox> :P
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[13:38:51] <arlekin> maybe its because im bundling angularjs with the rest of my code, but on the other hand i guess thats how it should be done innit ?
[13:39:10] <icebox> arlekin: use two entries... vendor and app
[13:39:31] <icebox> arlekin: really I should share my config :)
[13:39:43] <arlekin> icebox: i guess so, im total webpack newb
[13:39:45] <arlekin> big time
[13:40:30] <arlekin> but then again - if i have angular explicitely added in <head> how can i use it within es6 modules ?
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[13:40:40] <arlekin> if i import it webpack will bundle it...
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[13:41:47] <Elarcis> icebox: what breaking change?
[13:42:41] <Elarcis> icebox: ah, no breaking change per se, but on their side, yes
[13:42:54] <Elarcis> icebox: ah no, breaking changes
[13:43:01] <Elarcis> icebox: I'm half-asleep
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[13:43:55] <Elarcis> arlekin: console.log(angular)
[13:44:05] <arlekin> did that all seemed well
[13:45:05] <Elarcis> arlekin: well I'm out of options
[13:45:12] <arlekin> tho to be fair, it seems that somehow initially it is empty (have only version and callbacks properties on it)
[13:45:28] <arlekin> i'll try to rollback to older angular version just to check
[13:46:44] <arlekin> nope
[13:46:51] <arlekin> 1.5.6 same problem exactly
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[13:47:23] <arlekin> it somehow seems like i try to use angularjs before the angular object is actually ready
[13:47:31] <arlekin> that's dumb
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[13:48:06] <Elarcis> arlekin: your mom is dumb! HA!
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[13:48:34] <arlekin> Elarcis: as yet i don't have definitive opinion on the subject
[13:49:58] <Elarcis> arlekin: haha
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[13:55:42] <arlekin> hmm i didn't have babel loader, i thought it might be necessary for es6 module handling, i added it and...
[13:55:46] <arlekin> still doesn't work
[13:56:06] <icebox> arlekin: what a mess :)
[13:56:15] <arlekin> icebox: why so happy ?
[13:56:40] <icebox> arlekin: because I imagine you throwing plugins
[13:56:56] <arlekin> "throwing plugins" is that some kind of eufemism ?
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[13:59:41] <heartburn> G1eb: http://plnkr.co/edit/DbyJNwdqOcKs78Y7mvf1?p=preview enforcing $dirtiness at date-input.js#57 seems to do the trick.
[14:00:02] <heartburn> i have no idea why this happens tho.
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[14:02:28] <icebox> arlekin: no... it is the action to try plugins randomly
[14:02:48] <arlekin> icebox: well it wasn't random, but other than that, yeah...
[14:02:53] <icebox> arlekin: sadly I am not at home and I cannot share the config
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[14:03:12] <arlekin> worst part is - i have no idea whether that's an actual bug, or im doing something wrong
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[14:03:25] <icebox> arlekin: the second you said
[14:04:01] <icebox> arlekin: shall you share your config?
[14:04:11] <arlekin> i shall, mayhaps
[14:04:16] <arlekin> ;P
[14:04:33] <arlekin> http://dpaste.com/3G1VB3W
[14:05:02] <heartburn> whatever people do to not use gulp...
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[14:07:19] <icebox> arlekin: remove all... two entries, vendor and app; then add two outputs, app.bundle.js and vendor.bundle.js... you don't need babel and you don't need to exclude those folders
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[14:08:21] <arlekin> ok, why ?
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[14:09:10] <arlekin> will i still be able to `import angular` in my app code ?
[14:09:17] <icebox> arlekin: yep
[14:09:44] <arlekin> icebox: i dont get it, also no idea how can i add more entries
[14:09:48] <icebox> arlekin: because you load the bundle files in the html, not your js files
[14:10:36] <Elarcis> arlekin: euphemism. not eufemism
[14:10:48] <arlekin> Elarcis: thanks bruh, wasn't sure
[14:10:53] <Elarcis> arlekin: unless you're misspelling eufeminism, which isn't a word anyway
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[14:11:03] <arlekin> icebox: im mad cuz this: https://github.com/chihab/angular-styleguide-sample is supposed to work
[14:11:14] <arlekin> icebox: and its, all in one
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[14:11:51] <icebox> arlekin: that is webpack 1... you need to use webpack 2 :)
[14:12:00] <rand0m> brrr its kinda freezing out here :<
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[14:12:06] <icebox> arlekin: webpack 1 doesn't support ES2015
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[14:12:32] <arlekin> icebox: im using 2.2.1
[14:12:46] <icebox> arlekin: when you upgraded the package, you need to modufy the config, because there are breaking changes between the versions
[14:12:59] <arlekin> icebox: i never upgraded the package
[14:13:27] <icebox> arlekin: nice... but that config you showed me it is for webpack 1, if you borrowed it from angular-styleguide-sample
[14:13:36] <arlekin> icebox: i see
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[14:15:42] <arlekin> icebox: ok, docs are confusing, unclear and lack accessible examples
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[14:15:52] <arlekin> icebox: how do i make multiple entries ?
[14:16:09] <icebox> arlekin: agreed about the docs
[14:16:15] <Elarcis> arlekin: you forced me to install this project
[14:16:17] <arlekin> icebox: also how can i bundle file that have no relation between them (at least to my knowledge) ?
[14:16:42] <arlekin> Elarcis: if that was enough to make you do anything then you have a bigger problem i guess
[14:16:48] <icebox> arlekin: https://webpack.js.org/guides/code-splitting-libraries/
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[14:17:11] <icebox> arlekin: I suggest to read twice the whole guide
[14:17:28] <arlekin> icebox: the WHOLE thing ?
[14:17:57] <icebox> arlekin: the link suggested is only about splitting libs... the guide is important
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[14:18:15] <icebox> arlekin: it is the only doc you have
[14:18:19] <arlekin> can't i like, read a bit, make somethign working, get used to using webpack and then gradually learn new things ?
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[14:19:16] <icebox> arlekin: ok
[14:19:17] <arlekin> icebox: joking here, i know i should, im just not used to reading the whole docs/guides at once
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[14:19:51] <Elarcis> arlekin: I do
[14:20:02] <arlekin> especially that most of the things the docs/guides are for are too complicated to get a grip on due to abstract reasonings
[14:21:39] <arlekin> icebox: whats the deal with function(env) ?
[14:22:15] <icebox> arlekin: passing production/development variables env to create dynamic configs
[14:22:24] <arlekin> neat!
[14:22:45] <arlekin> so i guess the whole returning of the object is related to that too /
[14:22:56] <arlekin> and i assume there wasn't such thing in webpack 1 ?
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[14:25:55] <icebox> arlekin: no idea... I started using webpack from release 2
[14:26:42] <arlekin> icebox: i did understand this section of the guide but i have no clue how that applies to real life
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[14:31:52] <icebox> arlekin: I see
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[14:32:37] <icebox> arlekin: read also this one https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/webpack.html
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[14:32:47] <icebox> arlekin: ignore ts references :)
[14:34:09] <icebox> arlekin: replacing ts parts, that config is good for your use case (and mine)
[14:34:22] <icebox> arlekin: hope that helps
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[14:40:29] <rand0m> https://www.asus.com/uk/Notebooks/ROG-GL502VT/
[14:40:40] <rand0m> at first I thought wow, awesome
[14:41:00] <rand0m> then I realised that they were using opacity to make that effect
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[14:42:28] <rand0m> wb Snugglebash
[14:42:52] <Snugglebash> hello rand0m how are you this fine cold day?
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[14:45:38] <arlekin> icebox: thanks bruh
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[14:46:44] <rand0m> I am doing ok Snugglebash
[14:46:48] <rand0m> is it cold there too?
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[14:50:57] <Snugglebash> London is freeeeezing
[14:51:19] <Snugglebash> So cold theres no need for an icebox
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[14:52:18] <icebox> Snugglebash: thanks
[14:52:26] <Snugglebash> icebox: :D
[14:53:43] <uru> Snugglebash: It is D: Icy sleet drizzle here at the moment
[14:53:58] <rand0m> you're in london now?
[14:53:59] <rand0m> neat
[14:54:01] <rand0m> me too :D
[14:54:11] <Snugglebash> London is the place to be
[14:54:22] <uru> I work in Canary Warf
[14:54:24] <rand0m> nice
[14:54:30] <rand0m> Charringcross represent
[14:54:55] <Snugglebash> Liverpool Street
[14:54:56] <uru> Cool :)
[14:55:17] <rand0m> we should all meet up and bash our heads together
[14:55:26] <uru> lol, I think I'll pass on that
[14:55:32] <Snugglebash> its so cold man
[14:56:00] <uru> Snugglebash: Our office AC is total crud so it's a stuffy 24c right now :(
[14:56:03] <rand0m> I used to attend Atlassian Sessions at Liverpool street
[14:56:18] <Snugglebash> uru: which building are you in?
[14:56:26] <rand0m> HSBC i think
[14:57:03] <uru> Snugglebash: Tiny office block on the outskirts of CW itself, I don't imagine it will be long before they knock it down and turn it in to another tower tbh
[14:57:30] <rand0m> I always imagined living in those flats next to the river uru
[14:57:33] <rand0m> have you been there?
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[14:57:36] <Snugglebash> uru: ahhh right i use to live on the isle of dogs
[14:57:50] <uru> rand0m: Yea, was looking at moving in to one
[14:57:57] <uru> Snugglebash: I used to as well when I first moved here!
[14:57:58] <rand0m> nice man
[14:58:08] <arlekin> icebox: well, still the same error, but now in vendor.js file...
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[14:58:09] <Elarcis> I can't wait for the week-end
[14:58:11] <arlekin> shoot me...
[14:58:18] <Elarcis> uru: nice, you're not far from a friend of mine
[14:58:38] <uru> Elarcis: neat, small world and all that
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[14:58:44] <Elarcis> uru: I'm in Lyon
[14:58:45] <Snugglebash> London is the world
[14:58:46] <Elarcis> uru: so not so much
[14:58:56] <icebox> arlekin: code and config
[14:59:00] <rand0m> thats a weird way to spell London Elarcis
[14:59:02] <icebox> arlekin: please
[14:59:03] <rand0m> :P
[14:59:05] <Snugglebash> Oh jeez soooo many frogs!
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[14:59:21] <rand0m> where you from icebox buddy
[14:59:24] <arlekin> icebox: config http://dpaste.com/0VZP71Z
[14:59:25] <icebox> rand0m: Milan
[14:59:29] <rand0m> ah
[14:59:42] <rand0m> NICE
[14:59:49] <rand0m> i mean good, not nice nice
[14:59:54] <icebox> arlekin: no
[15:00:11] <icebox> arlekin: what in vendor.js?
[15:00:13] <uru> rand0m: lol
[15:00:15] <arlekin> icebox: http://dpaste.com/29N9B45
[15:00:42] <icebox> arlekin: and also imris.module.js
[15:01:06] <arlekin> icebox: http://dpaste.com/2M99FZY
[15:01:36] <icebox> arlekin: in vendor I would expect... vendor: ["angular"]
[15:01:52] <arlekin> icebox: and how does that work ?
[15:01:59] <icebox> arlekin: magic :)
[15:02:05] <arlekin> icebox: ...
[15:02:16] <icebox> arlekin: check the size of your bundle files
[15:02:25] <arlekin> there is no magic, it's someone else's code
[15:02:42] <arlekin> icebox: i know i didn't split common chunks
[15:02:56] <arlekin> but that's really the least of my worries right now
[15:03:20] <icebox> arlekin: really you are compelling to write again the webpack config here :)
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[15:03:38] <arlekin> icebox: ??
[15:03:53] <rand0m> im not a webpack expert but arlekin is that your whole webpack?
[15:04:00] <icebox> arlekin: the only way to exit from this rabbit hole is showing my config
[15:04:07] <arlekin> rand0m: yup
[15:04:11] <arlekin> icebox: ah, alright
[15:04:21] <arlekin> rand0m: literally my first approach to webpack
[15:04:41] <icebox> rand0m: it is almost correct... but evil is in the details
[15:04:59] <rand0m> do you want the fiel to be stored at ../imris/static/imris.js
[15:05:00] <arlekin> icebox: *eval
[15:05:08] <Snugglebash> * Devil
[15:05:27] <icebox> arlekin: no... thanks... thinking how to help you
[15:05:27] <arlekin> rand0m: yup, but thats not the point here
[15:05:35] <arlekin> icebox: ;)
[15:05:41] <rand0m> whats the problem ?
[15:05:52] <expelledboy> hey guys, so I have been using d3 as a mod.constant('d3', d3), but I see others wrap it in a service, and others actually have logic to load the script before publishing it again in a service. Why?
[15:05:59] <arlekin> rand0m: i get error that angular is empty object
[15:06:11] <rand0m> what is vendor.js
[15:06:16] <arlekin> rand0m: but while i console.log it i see all the methods just right
[15:06:24] <arlekin> so i guess its timing issue
[15:06:38] <rand0m> and why are you exporting function instead of a json ? :s?
[15:06:48] <icebox> expelledboy: when you have your d3 code working, out of angular, you can integrate it, putting that code in the link method of a directive
[15:06:49] <arlekin> rand0m: webpack 2
[15:06:56] <rand0m> I am using webpack 2
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[15:07:01] <rand0m> and I export a json?
[15:07:17] <arlekin> rand0m: dunno, first time webpacker here
[15:07:22] <rand0m> "webpack": "^2.2.0",
[15:07:27] <rand0m> let me copy paste my code
[15:07:36] <expelledboy> icebox: sure, but I have it working already as a constant. Is there any reason I should wrap it in a service?
[15:08:14] <expelledboy> I have seen three angular d3 wrappers that all use services rather than a simple constant
[15:08:16] <rand0m> here: http://dpaste.com/0SKNN74 arlekin
[15:08:17] <icebox> arlekin: ah.. maybe it is not webpack... you forgot .name when you create the module :)
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[15:08:47] <icebox> expelledboy: I don't use any constant :), nor services :)
[15:09:00] <arlekin> icebox: no i didn't forgot, im not exporting root module, therefore there is no point in .name
[15:09:05] <rand0m> brb lunch time
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[15:09:13] <expelledboy> icebox: just use it out of the global namespace? :)
[15:09:33] <icebox> arlekin: ok
[15:09:43] <icebox> expelledboy: it is there
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[15:10:04] <expelledboy> I guess, just thought I should try out this whole DI thing
[15:10:13] <icebox> expelledboy: no need
[15:10:24] <icebox> expelledboy: do you load it via scripts tag?
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[15:10:54] <expelledboy> icebox: es6 imports via browserify
[15:11:37] <icebox> expelledboy: yep... ok. you import it in the js and you have your d3 object ready to use
[15:11:51] <icebox> expelledboy: no need to use di
[15:11:56] <expelledboy> icebox: cool beans thanks!
[15:12:13] <icebox> arlekin: ok... sorry for the break... here I am
[15:12:43] <icebox> arlekin: you need to find what module fails angular, uiRouter, AuthenticationModule
[15:13:02] <icebox> arlekin: is it angular?
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[15:13:09] <arlekin> icebox: yup
[15:13:16] <icebox> arlekin: I am quite sure that config is not correct
[15:13:19] <arlekin> icebox: thats why i cannot figure it out
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[15:13:56] <arlekin> icebox: but why ?
[15:14:07] <icebox> arlekin: because vendor entry is not correct
[15:14:53] <arlekin> icebox: fuck vendor entry for now
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[15:15:11] <arlekin> ..
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[15:15:13] <arlekin> ...
[15:15:17] <arlekin> i know what i did wrong
[15:15:17] <icebox> arlekin: no... you need it... it is the same if you use only one :)
[15:15:30] <icebox> arlekin: ah nice catch!
[15:15:37] <icebox> arlekin: what?
[15:15:41] <arlekin> its so dumb its almost funny
[15:15:51] <icebox> arlekin: I know it is tiny detail
[15:15:56] <Elarcis> arlekin: TELL US
[15:15:57] <icebox> arlekin: which one? :)
[15:15:58] <arlekin> i tried to inject as dependency for my module the angular
[15:16:06] <Elarcis> .
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[15:16:12] <icebox> arlekin: ah
[15:16:14] <Elarcis> you were right
[15:16:18] <Elarcis> it /is/ funny
[15:16:20] <arlekin> so basically like: angular.module('app', [angular])
[15:16:38] <arlekin> Elarcis: what's funny is that none of you noticed it either :P
[15:16:45] <icebox> arlekin: well... does it work now?
[15:16:57] <Elarcis> arlekin: I didn't look at your code, just the error
[15:16:57] <arlekin> icebox: sure does
[15:17:08] <expelledboy> you guys all using Angular2+ ?
[15:17:10] <icebox> arlekin: wonderful... congrats
[15:17:15] <icebox> expelledboy: both
[15:17:23] <expelledboy> worth the move?
[15:17:41] <Snugglebash> expelledboy: depends what you are moving
[15:17:45] <arlekin> icebox: thanks for being with me in those trying moments
[15:17:50] <icebox> arlekin: sorry to be so evasive on my side
[15:18:11] <arlekin> icebox: no worries, i was getting frustrated and it started showing i guess
[15:18:23] <icebox> arlekin: but webpack is a beast and when it works, the details are forgotten :)
[15:18:33] <arlekin> icebox: and forgiven :D
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[15:18:41] <uru> expelledboy: I am, loving it so far, but I don't have any ng1 experance to compare with though
[15:18:47] <expelledboy> Snugglebash: well not really moving anything, will just be writing new projects in the best tech available
[15:19:16] <Snugglebash> expelledboy: they are different, maybe you will prefer 2. Some prefer 1.x
[15:19:25] <icebox> expelledboy: for new projects, it is ok using angular (the name angularjs is for release 1.x)
[15:19:30] <expelledboy> uru: ng1 was clunky, with best pratices that didnt match the lib
[15:19:32] <Snugglebash> expelledboy: try it and then see
[15:19:39] <expelledboy> untill 1.5 atleast
[15:20:04] <expelledboy> have you guys seen mithril?
[15:20:04] <uru> expelledboy: As said, I've had good experance so far with angular.
[15:20:11] <icebox> expelledboy: me
[15:20:28] <expelledboy> look super simple, but want to battle test it one of these days
[15:20:43] <uru> I'm currently building a touch-enabled drag and drop appointment calendar in it :)
[15:20:51] <icebox> expelledboy: read the logs of yesterday, looking for mithril... https://echelog.com/logs/browse/angularjs/1486594800
[15:20:51] * expelledboy adds to never ending TODO list
[15:20:56] <uru> (angular, not mithril)
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[15:21:38] <icebox> expelledboy: we did a good chat on micro frameworks
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[15:21:52] <expelledboy> icebox: reading through now
[15:22:00] <icebox> expelledboy: mithril is super battle tested... (see lichess.org)
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[15:23:51] * Pyrrhus666 is still toying with vuejs
[15:23:55] <expelledboy> wow shweet, source available?
[15:24:00] <Snugglebash> expelledboy: plus it can stop a cave troll spear
[15:24:08] <icebox> expelledboy: source code about?
[15:24:15] <expelledboy> lichess.org
[15:24:24] <icebox> expelledboy: sure... https://github.com/ornicar/lila
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[15:25:23] <icebox> expelledboy: the frontend is here https://github.com/ornicar/lila/tree/master/ui
[15:25:38] <expelledboy> ya just reading through now :)
[15:25:45] <expelledboy> seperate packages? interesting
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[15:26:39] <icebox> expelledboy: and there is also the mobile app... https://github.com/veloce/lichobile
[15:26:44] <expelledboy> the m syntax looks like cyclejs
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[15:27:32] <icebox> expelledboy: #lichess :)
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[15:28:29] <expelledboy> icebox: wow crazy, lots of support
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[15:30:34] <heartburn> Wire for Web — Modern communication. Full privacy.
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[15:30:41] <heartburn> Modern communication.
[15:30:46] <icebox> expelledboy: the costs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CGgu-7aNxlZkjLl9l-OlL00fch06xp0Q7eCVDDakYEE/edit#gid=0 supported via donations
[15:30:46] <heartburn> Modern
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[15:30:59] <heartburn> CoffeeScript 81.0%
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[15:33:16] <heartburn> thanks to Wire, i learned that knockoutjs is still around.
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[15:36:38] <Pyrrhus666> more surprised coffeescript is still a thing
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[15:38:14] <Elarcis> + side of typescript: you can write HTML games with it :P www.superpowers-html5.com/
[15:38:31] <Elarcis> (yes shameless advertisement)
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[15:40:24] <Snugglebash> Yay
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[15:43:54] <heartburn> subtlest trump promo so far.
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[15:45:00] <heartburn> http://i.imgur.com/yiCPjWL.png
[15:45:04] <heartburn> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1427/9954/products/H4-R_1024x1024.jpg?v=1474036708
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[15:45:45] <Pyrrhus666> ¨made in china¨
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[15:48:40] <rand0m> back
[15:48:47] <rand0m> its kinda snowing here :/
[15:49:10] <heartburn> man this is so depressing. i wanted to quickly add some text size options in the wire webapp, and in my head the code was organized very differently comparing to what they have in the repo.
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[16:04:42] <rand0m> do you guys know how to convert a brackets project into atom?
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[16:07:50] <icebox> rand0m: "Add Project Folder..." ?
[16:08:04] <rand0m> dont know icebox
[16:08:14] <rand0m> im still downloading the project
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[16:08:37] <rand0m> it seems to be java project written in brackets.io
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[16:11:09] <rand0m> i go home in 3 hours yay \o/
[16:11:27] <rand0m> havent done anything but I'll get paid anyways D:
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[16:19:09] <Elarcis> rand0m: yeaaa
[16:19:36] <rand0m> dont snitch on me Elarcis :<
[16:19:44] <rand0m> ill buy you an icecream
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[16:20:58] <rand0m> :o
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[16:21:15] <rand0m> wb
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[16:24:32] <Snugglebash> Does anyone use SockJS in conjunction with Angular?
[16:25:02] <icebox> Snugglebash: no... I have been using native web sockets
[16:26:13] <Snugglebash> icebox: Any reason for not using SockJS?
[16:26:28] <icebox> Snugglebash: it is the opposite :)
[16:26:56] <Snugglebash> icebox: googling why they are the opposite ;)
[16:27:01] <icebox> Snugglebash: http://caniuse.com/#search=websocket
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[16:28:10] <icebox> Snugglebash: web socket emulation was used when ws are not supported between the browers (or you need to support an old legacy browser, for instance IE)
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[16:28:34] <icebox> *when ws were not
[16:28:42] <Snugglebash> icebox: and SockJS is a websocket emulation?
[16:28:50] <icebox> Snugglebash: yes
[16:29:14] <Snugglebash> icebox: so you might consider it to be obsolete now?
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[16:29:23] <icebox> Snugglebash: open devtool console and type "WebSocket" :)
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[16:29:57] <Snugglebash> function
[16:30:08] <Snugglebash> WrappedWebSocket(url)
[16:30:37] <icebox> Snugglebash: nah... don't load anything, please :)
[16:30:50] <Snugglebash> that is what it said when i types WebSocket
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[16:31:31] <icebox> Snugglebash: no... maybe you opened devtools in a page using some ws
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[16:31:54] <icebox> Snugglebash: WebSocket // displays function WebSocket() { [native code] }
[16:32:41] <Snugglebash> icebox: mdn says this is an experimental technology
[16:33:27] <icebox> Snugglebash: your network is weird :) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebSockets_API "WebSockets is an advanced technology that makes it possible to open an interactive communication session between the user's browser and a server. "
[16:33:37] <icebox> Snugglebash: where do you read it is experimental? :)
[16:33:52] <Snugglebash> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebSocket
[16:34:26] <icebox> Snugglebash: it is not updated... because the table is ok
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[16:35:14] <icebox> Snugglebash: 2011 https://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-websockets-20110929/
[16:36:36] <icebox> Snugglebash: anyway it is up to you... using sockjs or whatever to emulate ws
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[16:37:16] <Calinou> MDN claims everything is experimental, you know :)
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[16:37:48] <Snugglebash> icebox: Well as you know im no pro, so maybe will try to give it a shot with WS. I am using Java Vertx backend so will see how to change that to make it work with ws.
[16:37:48] <ngIsh> hello
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[16:38:28] <ngIsh> @Snugglebash cool!
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[16:39:04] <icebox> Snugglebash: usually those kind of libs add some value: reconnecting, channels and so on... WebSocket is the raw interface... anyway for the most of the use cases is enough
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[16:39:36] <icebox> Snugglebash: I would start native
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[16:40:41] <Snugglebash> icebox: you mean with just Java
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[16:41:25] <icebox> Snugglebash: I mean, on client side I would start with the native WebSocket
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[16:41:56] <Snugglebash> icebox: yeah i was thinking of doing that, maybe knock out a simple app where people can live update a textbox or something
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[16:42:40] <Snugglebash> icebox: I am just used to $http :)
[16:43:06] <icebox> Snugglebash: ok
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[16:44:07] <icebox> Snugglebash: just in case... http://socket.io/ (instead of sock.js)
[16:44:37] <icebox> Snugglebash: just to notice the difference with the native approach
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[16:44:58] <Snugglebash> icebox: alright thanks a lot man its play time
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[16:48:25] <icebox> off... bye
[16:48:38] <icebox> Elarcis, Pyrrhus666: have a good weekend
[16:48:41] <Pyrrhus666> have a nice weekend all !
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[16:48:51] <rand0m> haay
[16:48:53] <rand0m> icebox
[16:48:59] <rand0m> have a good weekend buddy
[16:49:09] <rand0m> Pyrrhus666, you too mate :)
[16:49:13] <icebox> rand0m: bye
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[16:49:57] <rand0m> Snugglebash I bought a coffee across the street and by the time i returned to my desk its chilled
[16:49:58] <rand0m> :(
[16:50:21] <Snugglebash> rand0m sounds about right
[16:50:32] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, nuke it ;)
[16:50:38] <rand0m> loool no
[16:50:42] <rand0m> coffee = life
[16:51:12] <Pyrrhus666> that´s why I make my own at my desk with my aeropress :P
[16:51:31] <rand0m> oh so youre one of those posh coffee masters
[16:51:58] <uru> Pyrrhus666: I use an aeropress too :)
[16:52:09] <Pyrrhus666> nah. but I like coffee. so none of the starbucks shite :)
[16:52:19] <Pyrrhus666> uru, great, innit ? :)
[16:52:27] <rand0m> bro do u even chicory ?
[16:52:54] <Pyrrhus666> chicory ? the fake coffee drank in worldwar two ?
[16:53:09] <Pyrrhus666> that´s like eating tulip bulbs, right ?
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[16:53:22] <rand0m> fuuuuuuuuuu
[16:53:25] * rand0m explodes
[16:53:28] <rand0m> naw
[16:53:32] <rand0m> http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/prewetts-organic-chicory-drink-60018811
[16:53:44] <rand0m> make a blend of filter coffee and chicory
[16:53:50] <rand0m> 75%-25%
[16:53:51] <Pyrrhus666> yup, that´s the stuff :)
[16:54:01] <Pyrrhus666> laterz !
[16:54:07] <rand0m> baaai
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[16:55:30] <rand0m> fucking RBS
[16:55:41] <rand0m> i get an email saying they want me to work for them
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[16:55:50] * rand0m is angery
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[16:59:09] <heartburn> royal bank of scotland?
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[17:05:00] <uru> pagios: Yea, it is :)
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[17:19:53] <rand0m> yes heartburn
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[17:32:50] <heartburn> https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/rbs-reviews-SRCH_KE0,3.htm
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[17:36:50] <heartburn> guess you didn't miss much. they probably still use fortran or cobol. :o)
[17:37:47] <heartburn> altho, 3.7 is an okay rate. i worked for a company rated 3.7 on glassdoor. it was okay.
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[17:39:04] <sairam> hi
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[17:49:00] <Elarcis> oh yeah, this week-end I'll be able to redo the games from my childhood that I haven't played in more than a decade!
[17:49:02] <Elarcis> hype!
[17:49:03] <Elarcis> feels!
[17:49:05] <Elarcis> nostalgia!
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[18:01:06] <heartburn> super contra 6?
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[18:06:56] <heartburn> http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Contra_6
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[18:13:04] <heartburn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE8Yo2pW_Sw
[18:13:26] <rand0m> caio people
[18:13:33] <rand0m> will get back online when i reach home
[18:13:36] <heartburn> ciao person
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[18:21:48] <LeBlaaanc> any cordova devs around?
[18:22:14] <LeBlaaanc> I'm trying to do something that is seemingly straightforward in my dev environment, that is serve cordova.js from local file:// and the index.html itself from remote
[18:22:28] <LeBlaaanc> problem is I can't get the cordova.js path...
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[19:43:40] <kerrang> how can i stagger animations with *ngFor in angular2?
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[19:52:53] <captn_hook> Is there any way to initialize a service in your app.module?
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[19:55:58] <kas84> I’d like to calculate a ng-style based on some dom of the page, but the ng-style fires some time before angular finished manipulating the dom
[19:56:10] <kas84> is there a way to do a timeout or something like that to wait for changes?
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[20:11:12] <Doginal> hey, is it possible to use the dropdown from md-autocomplete (angular material) on an input dynamically? Ie i have an input add a directive to add the drop down based off the text in the input. Any ideas? i can replace the original input with an autocomplete but it doesnt work as execpted.
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[20:18:43] <Angugus> do you have some advices for a ACL component (plugin ?) please ?
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[20:25:36] <Angugus> do you have some advices for an Angular2 ACL plugin please ?
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[20:28:34] <wafflejock> Angugus, not aware of one but ACL is typically something you'd be doing server side for the most part
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[20:29:28] <wafflejock> Angugus, on the client side can just hide or exclude elements based on the user roles but would typically take care of any sort of groups/roles server side, in angular 1 you could also add info to the states to determine which ones require particular roles
[20:30:27] <Angugus> wafflejock: yes of course, and it is ! i 'd just like to be able to show or exclude elements (links, buttons, etc)
[20:30:55] <wafflejock> Angugus, yeah angular 1 you'd use ngIf or ngHide pretty sure the former still exists
[20:31:14] <Angugus> i work with Angular2
[20:31:31] <wafflejock> https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/api/common/index/NgIf-directive.html
[20:32:07] <Angugus> ngIf is the best solution ??
[20:32:21] <wafflejock> it's better than no solution :)
[20:32:26] <Angugus> sure
[20:32:34] <wafflejock> best is subjective depends on specifics of the use case really
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[20:33:33] <Angugus> i call an API (which checks roles, rights etc) but i would use those roles in Angular to show/hide datas
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[20:37:22] <wafflejock> yeah ngIf is the most direct way to do it if you're just hiding particular elements if you're doing some more complicated changes you might want to load different templates or restrict states or something but ngIf is the easy solution for conditionally removing elements
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[20:38:03] <wafflejock> regarding data you just shouldn't send data to users that they shouldn't see but stuff in the template you can just include/exclude the element with ngIf and get what you need
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[20:39:45] <wafflejock> if you've transmitted some data to a users computer consider it compromised any hiding it from the view doesn't matter
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[20:40:32] <Angugus> wafflejock: Yes. And what about returning the user role and his rights (boolean) when logging in ? After i could call a AclService in ngIf. no ?
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[20:41:38] <wafflejock> Angugus, well you'd inject your AclService into any components that need to be able to use that info and you would use bindings with ngIf in the view to look at the variables in the AclService to hide things
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[20:42:05] <Angugus> yes
[20:45:25] <wafflejock> Angugus, probably try the gitter chat too for ng2 stuff now or in the future more of the ng 2 chat is there https://gitter.im/angular/angular
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[20:45:47] <wafflejock> maybe someone knows of an ng2 module that will help you out some more too
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[21:09:04] <eau4x6> So there two different ways to start building angular 2 app: quickstart and angular-cli. which one would you recommend?
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[21:12:02] <eau4x6> i made my way through tutorial which was based on quickstart but have just discovered angular-cli and i see it uses different module system (webpack instead of systemjs)
[21:12:29] <Angugus> wafflejock: ok ty ! it's more ng1 here ?
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[21:35:58] <dgo> hi there. I have an http error which is not "visible" by the subscribe() method of Observable. Like the error parameter is never "called." If I catch the error on the map() method and rethrow the exception, I cannot catch it using the subscribe method. any idea ? (angular2 2.4.6)
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[22:01:17] <misty> hi all. We have a site we are generating using Jekyll, but our header and footer also require some AngularJS and we don't really control the code. The problem is that in the body of our content, we have some codeblocks that have double brackets, and Angular is trying to bind to them. I learned about "ng-non-bindable", but I dno't have access to the individual code blocks before they are generated. I tried putting "ng-non-bindable" on the s
[22:01:18] <misty> ection which contains all the content, but it appears that it is not recursive to all the child elements. Is there another way to do this that would be recussive, or another way to limit the binding to just the header and footer that need it?
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[22:11:50] <wafflejock> Angugus, it's a mix in here but more people doing angular 1 stuff or transitioning things
[22:13:04] <wafflejock> misty, if you can change where the angular module is bootstrapped you can restrict it to working on some part of the DOM
[22:13:06] <Angugus> ok
[22:13:07] <misty> ok, I was wrong, the ng-non-bindable does work! I was just putting it on the wrong element
[22:13:13] <wafflejock> misty, ah cool
[22:13:22] <misty> the ng-scope is on the <body> element :(
[22:13:32] <misty> and I don't know enough about angular to mess with it
[22:13:36] <misty> but I think my solution has worked
[22:14:06] <wafflejock> misty, yeah ng-app is where the module is typically operating instead of ng-app you can manually bootstrap with angular.bootstrap('someModule',someElement) I think but if you're good you're good
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[22:15:00] <misty> thank you! This is all a mystery to me but it looks like it's not throwing JS errors now
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[22:35:34] <dmadaan_> hi, I have an easy thing not working in ionic http://plnkr.co/edit/xYesoQ9xSLZkpDqMBCJw?p=catalogue the (click) = "addItem()" is not being triggered and I dont think there is any mistake in code :/
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[22:35:46] <dmadaan_> I was using navCtrl but even a console.log is not being called
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[23:52:16] <zerubeus> Hello everyone
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[23:53:10] <zerubeus> I have a component in angular one that duplicate twice when I use ng repeat inside the component template
[23:53:27] <zerubeus> anyone have an idea what is causing this ?
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[23:58:55] <rodd> any clue on what I'm missing here?
[23:58:56] <rodd> https://gist.github.com/zrod/504c3bf8d21ab4ffe9d11bf6d2e5286d
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[23:59:30] <rodd> plunker complains: ReferenceError: module is not defined at eval
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