[00:01:04] <heartburn> you might wanna fork it, since you don't have access to this very repo.
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[00:01:15] <heartburn> or simply download it as zip
[00:01:24] <heartburn> and skip the clone part
[00:01:39] <illug> Ahh ok
[00:05:59] <illug> heartburn: looks good :)
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[00:06:58] <heartburn> to make it even less confusing, you might want to create directories for routes and components.
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[00:07:15] <heartburn> and maybe another one for factories/services
[00:07:43] <heartburn> i just put everything in /components, 1 directory for each module/feature
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[00:12:12] <illug> heartburn: yup
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<docmur> I'm trying to find a value inside some data through a straight search: http://jsfiddle.net/ADukg/10007/ I can't seem to get this to work, for instance if I enter 1 in the search box, index: 1 should be good
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[00:43:30] <heartburn> there's no property .j in that dataset
[00:44:02] <heartburn> if ($scope.findThing == $scope.data[i].index) {
[00:44:06] <heartburn> this works
[00:44:58] <docmur> Oh okay, IC what I did wrong, I have to get a var to the key to check
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[06:54:49] <developerx> hey whats up everyone
[06:55:23] <developerx> is anyone else running into many disconnects when running karma jasmine and phantomjs lately ?
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[07:25:11] <HelloThere> Bootstrap UI for AngularJS. When I use modal open() function, I am basically getting the templateUrl at the top of the page and not the template in a modal dialog box.
[07:26:16] <HelloThere> Anyone know why that would be happening?
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[08:56:26] <pLaTo0n> how can I inherit from a controller and overwrite a function that is defined as "vm.function = ..."
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[08:57:27] <Snugglebash> Morning chaps
[08:57:38] <icebox> pLaTo0n: maybe you can do it, but it is a bit suspicious approach... what is your use case?
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[08:57:42] <icebox> Snugglebash: hey
[08:58:42] <pLaTo0n> I want to use a list controller of another feature, and its view
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[08:58:57] <pLaTo0n> but the "select" function should do another thing
[08:59:12] <pLaTo0n> so I want to overwrite / redefine it
[08:59:17] <pLaTo0n> just for the new feature
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[08:59:27] <pLaTo0n> without modifying the old one
[09:00:02] <pLaTo0n> I know this works with scope functions, but it's a vm function
[09:00:19] <icebox> pLaTo0n: this or $scope is the same
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[09:00:47] <icebox> pLaTo0n: it depends if you are using controller as syntax
[09:00:55] <icebox> *depends on
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[09:01:41] <icebox> pLaTo0n: if you need to share code or data between controllers (or other), use a service
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[09:02:35] <pLaTo0n> well I basically just want to overwrite one function that selects a row of the list
[09:02:58] <icebox> pLaTo0n: well, I vote against that approach :)
[09:03:10] <pLaTo0n> not my Idea, just have to do it :D
[09:03:16] <Snugglebash> pLaTo0n: no you dont
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[09:03:37] <pLaTo0n> I have to fix code from other team members
[09:03:45] <pLaTo0n> with minimal modifications of the original feature
[09:03:56] <icebox> pLaTo0n: accumulating technical debt is not fixing
[09:04:05] <Snugglebash> pLaTo0n: icebox: AGREE
[09:04:23] <pLaTo0n> I'm not really in the frontend team
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[09:04:27] <pLaTo0n> usually doing backend stuff :D
[09:04:39] <Snugglebash> pLaTo0n: So they should fix their own code?
[09:04:45] <pLaTo0n> I'm a but surprised about the complexity of this angular stuff in our frontend
[09:04:57] <icebox> pLaTo0n: ok... but I cannot suggest a solution I cannot approve :)
[09:05:09] <pLaTo0n> well, I'm a lot faster in the backend so I have to help out when I'm done with my part
[09:05:45] <pLaTo0n> I don't really like angular 1, sorry to say that here :D
[09:05:52] <pLaTo0n> maybe angular2 is better
[09:06:03] <icebox> pLaTo0n: no problem... you are right :)
[09:06:03] <Snugglebash> pLaTo0n: Angular isnt that complicated, I would say it makes writing a front end application considerably easier. But to someone not used to it, it can be a little confuddling.
[09:06:10] <pLaTo0n> maybe we just use it the wrong way, cannot say
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[09:06:33] <icebox> pLaTo0n: and if you code angularjs without following best practices, it is worst :)
[09:06:35] <Snugglebash> pLaTo0n: you can suggest them to follow Todd Motto or John Papa
[09:06:48] <pLaTo0n> I use ruby/rails in the backend
[09:06:57] <pLaTo0n> so I'm used to have strong conventions
[09:07:04] <pLaTo0n> miss that a little in the javascript world :D
[09:07:18] <pLaTo0n> everybody is using his own style here
[09:07:23] <pLaTo0n> it can be confusing
[09:07:30] <Snugglebash> pLaTo0n: Yeah so they need a kick in the butt
[09:07:37] <pLaTo0n> maybe :D
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[09:08:00] <pLaTo0n> It's hard for me to get into existing code and working on it
[09:08:06] <pLaTo0n> really hard
[09:08:09] <pLaTo0n> all that callbacks
[09:08:16] <pLaTo0n> it's like in the movie "Inception"
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[09:09:49] <icebox> pLaTo0n: ok... but it seems you are working on a bit dated code, because nowadays there are very good code styles and techniques to mitigate what you are saying
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[09:10:30] <pLaTo0n> yes, thats right
[09:10:41] <pLaTo0n> well, I dont have an impact on this at the moment
[09:10:45] <pLaTo0n> maybe for the next project
[09:10:46] <icebox> pLaTo0n: indeed one of main comment about angular is too opinionated w.r.t. react or other micro mvc frameoworks :)
[09:11:17] <icebox> pLaTo0n: back to your issue... let's see if we find a tradeoff :)
[09:12:25] <icebox> pLaTo0n: if I understood correctly, you have a controller with vm.foo... and you are in another controller and you want to override that vm.foo?
[09:12:32] <pLaTo0n> it should work when I do something like "$controller('MyOldController', {$scope: $scope});"
[09:12:43] <pLaTo0n> then I can overwrite existing scope functions
[09:12:59] <pLaTo0n> but not these that are defined as "vm.something = func.."
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[09:13:52] <pLaTo0n> maybe I should modify the original controller and view, that would be the easiest way
[09:14:40] <icebox> pLaTo0n: well... it would be optimal, isn't it?
[09:15:07] <pLaTo0n> not that what I was told to do, but in my opinion it would be the best, yes
[09:15:07] <pLaTo0n> :D
[09:15:16] <icebox> :P
[09:15:43] <pLaTo0n> I have the feeling that there is a lot unneccessary complexity
[09:15:54] <pLaTo0n> but I'm not an expert in the frontend
[09:16:40] <icebox> pLaTo0n: if it is public code, we may review it...
[09:17:40] <pLaTo0n> well, it's a project of my company, can't make it public
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<icebox> That is a link referenced in the docs - https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/dependency-injection.html - We actually can define the component first with the help of the forwardRef() method as explained in this blog post. But why flirt with trouble? Avoid the problem altogether by defining components and services in separate files. :)
[09:21:03] <icebox> pLaTo0n: you may suggest to the frontend team to read Todd Motto's code style guide... also his blog is awesome
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[09:22:11] <pLaTo0n> thanks, that might be a good idea :)
[09:22:17]
<icebox> pLaTo0n: if you have a sort of training budget, there are battle tested solutions like https://nrwl.io/
[09:24:19] <icebox> pLaTo0n: and eventually the less expensive one is attending to some js event organized by js community close to your city :)
[09:24:48] <icebox> pLaTo0n: and starting to compare solutions and approaches with other programmers
[09:24:54] <pLaTo0n> yes
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[09:25:23] <pLaTo0n> maybe there is something like that in germany :D
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[09:26:07] <Elarcis> Hi!
[09:26:23] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis, icebox
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[09:26:36] <icebox> Elarcis, Pyrrhus666: hey
[09:26:48] <pLaTo0n> n1
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[09:29:10] <Snugglebash> hi Elarcis
[09:29:32] <ngm> iam trying to get the elements in the current view port. any idea how i can do that?
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[09:30:22] <icebox> ngm: where and what with?
[09:30:25] <ngm> trying to implement a video gallery like vine which auto plays the video which it is in viewport during scroll
[09:30:41] <icebox> ngm: so directive, link, element
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[09:31:12] <ngm> yes i did setup that but how didnt get the elements only in view port
[09:31:19] <ngm> but didnt*
[09:31:24] <icebox> ngm: eheheh :) but that is a different question...
[09:31:44] <zomg> ngm: you would need to calculate the element offsets in comparison to the viewport
[09:31:44] <Elarcis> ngm: window.document.documentElement.innerHTML :P
[09:31:45] <icebox> ngm: you are asking when an element is in the view port :) html question, not angular one :)
[09:32:24] <ngm> iam looking for the api in angular 2 to do that
[09:32:30] <zomg> there is none
[09:32:31] <ngm> i know it in jquery
[09:32:35] <ngm> or js
[09:32:49] <ngm> just looking for something provided by ng2
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[09:32:54] <zomg> there is none :P
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[09:33:11] <icebox> I second zomg :P
[09:33:11] <ngm> zomg: okay off to npm
[09:33:15] <zomg> angular2 is not a framework which solves your application-specific requirements
[09:33:28] <zomg> I doubt you'll find anything on npm either
[09:33:35] <icebox> ngm: you need function elementInViewport(el) :)
[09:33:38] <zomg> this is a very specific concern only to your application, not a general purpose problem
[09:33:45] <ngm> icebox: ah cool
[09:34:04] <icebox> ngm: sure... cool... but you need to implement it :)
[09:34:16] <zomg> getBoundingClientRect may also be helpful in locating the element's
[09:34:22] <ngm> yes i understand, i was only looking for elementInViewport
[09:36:11] <ngm> cool i have got similar results but the only thing was trying to find is how to get the view port using the elementRef in directive
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[09:38:34] <icebox> Elarcis: when you chose webpack, did you consider also rollup?
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[09:41:50] <icebox> ngm: Resig's solution is dated 2008... :)
[09:42:38] <ngm> icebox: okay, ill get it done no worries :)
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[10:04:16] <Elarcis> icebox: I looked at it, but webpack seemed more adapted (and at the time, recommended by angular.io)
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[10:04:48] <icebox> Elarcis: agreed
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[10:05:23] <icebox> Elarcis: but lately I have been seeing more traction for rollup
[10:05:37]
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[10:05:56] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, so what´s rollups unique selling point over webpack 2 ?
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[10:07:03] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: well... when it was created, there was not webpack 2, so tree shaking for ES2015
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[10:08:15] <Pyrrhus666> but now we _have_ wp2, so that advantage is gone I guess.
[10:08:20] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep
[10:08:37] <Elarcis> icebox: please, no more massive tool change for this year...
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[10:09:50] <icebox> Elarcis: well... I need a few hours to complete the migration task using a bundler... rollup is a plan B... just to be sure not to add too complexity with webpack
[10:10:12] <Elarcis> icebox: ah
[10:10:31] <Elarcis> icebox: imho webpack is great when starting a project and to develop a build workflow
[10:10:39] <icebox> Elarcis: it is quite opaque that step (rollup or webpack) in the workflow
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[10:10:49] <Elarcis> icebox: it seems rollup is more adequate for a "simple" bundler close to what you'd expect from vanillaJS
[10:10:58] <icebox> Elarcis: exactly
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[10:11:08] <icebox> Elarcis: that is my concern :)
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[10:11:50] <icebox> I am afraid I need to try it to see the concrete diffs in the wip project
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[10:13:33] <icebox> at the moment I have a webpack config working... but there are two or three details I don't like
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[10:16:26] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, if it ain´t broke....
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[10:17:35] <Elarcis> icebox: the PM doesn't like sourcetree, "your thing is rubbish, tortoise is simpler and better"
[10:17:39] <Elarcis> icebox: gimme a rope
[10:18:54] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, isn´t it just a front for git ? so just use the client you like ?
[10:19:19] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: indeed... as I said, it is an (almost) neutral step
[10:20:15] <icebox> Elarcis: I second Pyrrhus666 :)
[10:20:32] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, if you try to keep up with what´s hip and/or new in JS tooling, <southpark>you´re gonna have a bad time ´mkay</southpark>
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[10:21:21] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed... but rollup was my first choice... then I tried webpac
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[10:21:46] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: and webpack is quite mainstream nowadays
[10:22:07] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, that´s why I thought webpack was your first choice :)
[10:23:09] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: webpack 2 was a game changer
[10:23:16] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, btw : I tried an ng2 app from scratch, but was disappointed by the options available (ng-cli, just no, the suggested seed uses systemjs, so no, and from scratch is hard.
[10:23:37] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, hence I´m now looking at vue for a bit ;)
[10:23:54] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: vue is very nice :)
[10:24:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: but I don't buy ".vue" files
[10:24:37] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, so far, I kind of dig them. except for scope styles, those are a big no.
[10:24:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: but fetching external templates is very easy (even if it is not built-in)
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[10:25:18] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I´ve seen it. for larger components that might be better, but for small stuff .vue is ok
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[10:25:29] <Pyrrhus666> it feels better than JSX anyway,
[10:26:19] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: sometimes I explore new micro mvc toys, like hyperapp, redom or mithril.js (or riot.js)...
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[10:26:48] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, have you tried infernojs ? I looked at that before deciding on vue
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[10:27:15] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: they are appealing but the main problem is the same: the ecosystem, mainly widget lib
[10:27:49] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I don't like jsx-like frameworks
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[10:28:00] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah, that´s a thing. I´m trying vue with bulma, but yu have to implement the code behind widgets yourself
[10:28:11] <Pyrrhus666> (or find somebody who already did it)
[10:28:23] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: well... vue has vue-elements
[10:30:01] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, seen it, but the responsiveness sucks (as I read anyway). hence bulma.
[10:30:20] <Elarcis> icebox, Pyrrhus666 : yeah, I agree that the UI wrapper around git doesn't matter, but
[10:30:25] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: at the moment my preferred are mithril.js and vue... see lichess.org for a battled test site for mithril.js
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[10:30:49] <Elarcis> icebox, Pyrrhus666: it matters when the PM can't see branches properly, has troubles merging, while I don't
[10:30:53] <Pyrrhus666> mithril has been around for a pretty long while, no ?
[10:30:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: the point with mithril.js is there is not any widget lib
[10:31:16] <veeru> i have created one project. In that starting page is index page and i have given references(libs,styles,controllers..) in it. Issue is i have added one page but i dont want the references (styles) which i have added in index page.Is there any wy to do that?
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[10:31:24] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep
[10:31:25] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, so he just uses tortoise while you use sourcetree ?
[10:32:07] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, lichess look pretty impressive on the surface :)
[10:32:14] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: at the end of the journey, with all the concerns we know, I think angular is a good choice :)
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[10:32:42] <Elarcis> veeru: what do you mean by references?
[10:32:42] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: really it is fantastic (as chess player) :)
[10:33:07] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, it´s not a _bad_ choice, that´s for sure :) but I´m starting to feel it´s a bit overkill for my uses (esp. 2.x)
[10:33:38] <veeru> i dont want the styles which i have given in index page.. i want my own styles(css) to be applied in that perticular page
[10:33:39] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: same feelings here
[10:33:43] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I started configuring a project from scratch. I couldn't make unit tests work with webpack, so I just gave up and used foxandxss's starter, even if it doesn't have AoT right now
[10:34:09] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: It's just hell to find out the right version compatibilities
[10:34:24] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, I tried to stay official, so haven´t tried that one... maybe I should.
[10:34:25] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: "hey don't upgrade TS to this next minor version, because at-loader won't work with it!"
[10:34:47] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: "hey don't upgrade this plugin to the last version, it'll break karma for an unknown reason!"
[10:35:10] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, isn´t that always the case with the while js ecosystem ? not just tooling too...
[10:35:14] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: ugggh, I just want my own setup, it feels like I must be an omniscient god to do that
[10:35:27] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, I share that feeling ;)
[10:35:40] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: apparently semver is more of a guide than a true code
[10:35:48] <icebox> Elarcis: totally same experience... I gave up karma for that reason... it doesn't work with ES2015 directly
[10:35:58] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: and it doesn't solve ALL incompatibility issues
[10:36:06] <Elarcis> icebox: what do you use in place?
[10:36:06] <icebox> Elarcis: sorry not karma... phantomjs
[10:36:09] <Elarcis> icebox: ah
[10:36:31] <Elarcis> icebox: yeah I heard phantomjs is like asbestos, it looks great until you start coughing
[10:36:37] <icebox> :P
[10:36:58] <icebox> I found a way to use chrome also in CI env :)
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[10:38:11] <veeru> Elarcis, i dont want the styles which i have given in index page.. i want my own styles(css) to be applied in that perticular page
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[10:38:45] <HelloWorld> hello
[10:38:53] <HelloWorld> Is anyone there?
[10:38:56] <Elarcis> HelloWorld: no
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[10:39:07] <Elarcis> Guest45048: we all switched to react
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[10:39:21] <Elarcis> veeru: if your index.html has a global CSS, you can't just no-apply it
[10:39:29] <Guest45048> Does anyone know anything about Umbraco angular controllers_
[10:39:42] <Elarcis> veeru: it's the CSS that you need to make "less global"
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[10:40:03] <veeru> ok
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[10:40:25] <Elarcis> veeru: are you doing angularjs (1.x) or angular (2+)
[10:40:26] <Guest45048> Can someone help me?
[10:40:39] <Elarcis> Guest45048: I don't know what Umbraco is
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[10:40:57] <Guest45048> It's a CMS for .NET written in C# and Angular
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[10:42:21] <Elarcis> Guest45048: okay, so what's your question regarding that?
[10:42:36] <Elarcis> Guest45048: (rule 1: don't ask to ask, just ask)
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[10:43:47] <icebox> frontend is frontend and backend is backend :)
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[10:46:06] <ngm> icebox: all the solutions on checking element in view will calculate the value for the elements. How can i do it optimally?
[10:46:35] <ngm> ill loop over all the elements
[10:46:54] <ngm> is there any other way?
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[10:47:51] <icebox> ngm: no idea... for your use case I would give a look at a site with similar feature... just to get a few hints about the approach
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[10:48:25] <ngm> got it
[10:48:30] <icebox> ngm: it seems you found a rabbit hole
[10:48:59] <ngm> vines is a similar to the what iam working on so ill take a look at it
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[10:55:12] <ngm> nope but ill give it a test. I think its not possible to avoid for loop calculation of all the scrolled elements which iam tracking.
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[10:55:41] <ngm> I am trying to avoid calculation of all the elements
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[10:55:46] <ngm> icebox: ^
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[10:56:41] <icebox> ngm: I don't remember... angularjs or angular?
[10:56:51] <ngm> angular
[10:57:53] <heartburn> > angularjs (1.x) or angular (2+)
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[10:58:01] <heartburn> god i hate everything about this
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[10:58:27] <heartburn> why don't they just rename ng2 completely is beyond me
[10:59:01] <icebox> heartburn: because in a few weeks we have angular release 4.x :)
[10:59:02] <heartburn> triangular or i dunno
[10:59:24] <icebox> heartburn: ah you name changing completely the name
[10:59:30] <heartburn> yea
[10:59:39] <icebox> *ah you mean
[10:59:46] <icebox> heartburn: agreed
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[11:00:02] <rand0m> morning
[11:00:04] <icebox> search engines and the beginners (not only) get crazy :)
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[11:00:49] <icebox> rand0m: always morning in irc :)
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[11:01:12] <rand0m> yeah i suppose so
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[11:02:38] <rand0m> hay icebox, i managed to trim down the file size
[11:02:52] <rand0m> but I think I'll abandon the project as i feel bad about it #:(
[11:02:59] <ngm> is there any jqlite for angular 2
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[11:03:17] <icebox> ngm: please! :)
[11:03:21] <icebox> rand0m: sigh
[11:03:35] <rand0m> the problem is that the content doesnt load consistenly
[11:03:39] <rand0m> not sure why
[11:03:48] <rand0m> everytime you refresh the content loads or it doesnt
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[11:04:03] <heartburn> ngm: document.querySelector will do it for you buddy
[11:04:25] <ngm> icebox: ah, sorry. iam changing into to help vampire !
[11:05:15] <icebox> ngm: no problem :)
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[11:05:43] <ngm> this one task is making me stressed
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[11:07:51] <rand0m> what the ffff
[11:07:54] <rand0m> icebox
[11:08:08] <rand0m> and see if the page is inconsistent?
[11:08:35] <rand0m> i.e, all content (menus, logos, text) shows up as expected
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[11:09:10] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, what´s ¨expected¨ ? it looks fine
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[11:10:55] <Pyrrhus666> I have more
[11:10:57] <rand0m> no icons, no logos, no text
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[11:11:02] <rand0m> yeah yeah
[11:11:16] <Pyrrhus666> (just don´t mind the other monitor ;))
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[11:11:39] <rand0m> lol
[11:11:47] <rand0m> strange
[11:11:51] <rand0m> in my local instance
[11:11:57] <rand0m> I use axios as my httpclient
[11:12:08] <rand0m> and on cloud9 ide i changed the client o $http
[11:12:10] <rand0m> to*
[11:12:19] <rand0m> theres shit load of difference :o
[11:12:29] <rand0m> maybe I should stick with $http
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[11:12:36] <Pyrrhus666> why use axios in the first place ? native $http is fine, isn´t it ?
[11:13:12] <rand0m> yeah
[11:13:18] <rand0m> to be "cool"
[11:13:40] <Pyrrhus666> make it work first, be cool later ;)
[11:13:44] <rand0m> i'll stick with $http and not be cool but functioning
[11:13:47] <rand0m> hah
[11:13:50] <rand0m> morning btw
[11:13:51] <icebox> rand0m: $http = fetch + $apply... axios = fetch... that makes the diff
[11:13:59] <rand0m> makes sense now
[11:14:19] <rand0m> i will not abandon it now then :p
[11:14:53] <rand0m> so if I wanted to use axios i should run $scope.digest() everytime i get a response?
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[11:14:58] <Pyrrhus666> I always feel that if you need to $apply it yourself, you´re doing it wrong. but that may be an angularjs legacy.
[11:15:17] <icebox> rand0m: I second Pyrrhus666 ... don't flirt with troubles :)
[11:15:49] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: 4k?
[11:16:14] <rand0m> brb i'll go call and find out whats happening with my job interviews
[11:16:24] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, nah, 1920x1080 + 1440x900. this is just the laptop
[11:16:30] <Elarcis> rand0m: no, $apply(). no $digest. ever.
[11:16:48] <Pyrrhus666> main box is 2560x1440 + 1280x1024
[11:16:51] <Elarcis> what's axios, anyway?
[11:16:52] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ah ok :) yesterday a friend of mine tried a 4k with a raspberry... nice :)
[11:17:02] <icebox> Elarcis: http lib
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[11:18:32] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: he has also a Pine64... nice toy :)
[11:18:38] <rand0m> back
[11:18:42] <rand0m> morning Elarcis
[11:19:52] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, that looks like a very nice board :)
[11:20:30] <rand0m> heartburn, that singer is a man isnt it?
[11:21:49] <Elarcis> hi rand0m
[11:21:55] <heartburn> she just doesn't skip the gym.
[11:22:08] <Elarcis> icebox: suggesting sticking to $http tipped me off
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[11:22:39] <rand0m> id stick with $http rather than do an extra step
[11:23:55] <OREIL> can I have ng-style override a previous value set in the markup with the <style> tag?
[11:24:06] <rand0m> heartburn, holy shit man
[11:24:24] <rand0m> the singer's the same one who sings for rokysopp
[11:24:34] <rand0m> royksopp
[11:24:43] <Elarcis> heartburn: can't watch yt right naough
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[11:25:01] <Elarcis> OREIL: good question, you can try but I don't know what's the priority order
[11:25:06] <rand0m> skip heartburns track Elarcis :P
[11:25:24] <Elarcis> OREIL: it will store it in the style attribute of the element
[11:25:33] <Elarcis> OREIL: so I guess it'll indeed override <style>
[11:25:42] * rand0m goes back to coding
[11:25:50] <Elarcis> OREIL: conclusion, you should have tried it first! :P
[11:26:00] <OREIL> i did, it didn't))
[11:26:38] <OREIL> it works fine if the specific property wasn't set before, I can't seem to use !important either
[11:26:49] <OREIL> i guess I'll have to set the default one in another way
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[11:32:02] <Elarcis> OREIL: probably a CSS specificity conflict
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[11:33:04] <rand0m> i i might have got a job :o
[11:33:12] <rand0m> \o/
[11:33:49] <zomg> grats
[11:34:01] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, gz !
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[11:34:24] <rand0m> not the one i expected but whatever i still get paid
[11:34:25] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, so the written test was ok I guess ? ;)
[11:34:30] <rand0m> not that one
[11:34:36] <rand0m> written test one was for bmw
[11:34:53] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, ah, different job.
[11:35:04] <rand0m> yeah
[11:35:18] <rand0m> this one is for water treatment/supplier company
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[11:36:15] <Elarcis> rand0m: nice!
[11:36:24] <Elarcis> rand0m: try to not want to get fired from it!
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[11:36:29] <rand0m> lool
[11:36:36] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, he´s not pepa ;)
[11:36:39] <rand0m> its a 3 month gig
[11:36:40] <Elarcis> what happened to that bloke? haven't seen them in a long
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[11:36:49] <rand0m> whos pepa
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[11:36:56] <rand0m> pepa the pig?
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[11:38:05] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, nah, a person using random nicks, but with login name ´pepa´ who asked a lot of weird questions and wanted to get fired from their job at capgemini
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[11:40:32] <zomg> I think we're actually looking to hire a dev as well
[11:40:56] <zomg> Fully remote, fairly sizable (and partially maybe slightly shit) angular 1 project with node backend
[11:41:30] <zomg> although I'm not 100% sure if we're going to hire someone full time or part time, at least the current candidates are part time I think...
[11:42:46] <Elarcis> I'm pretty happy with my current job
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[11:43:51] <Elarcis> practically have my salary x1.5 with my company overcompensating for my car fuel :D
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[11:46:58] <icebox> zomg: cool!
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[11:50:30] <icebox> zomg: out of curiosity, job description? I mean... do you need a frontend dev, in this case a fullstack one, or a frontend dev more oriented to develop custom widgets? because the skills are different... more js for the first one... more css for the second one... or when you are a frontend dev do you expect both skills?
[11:51:37] <icebox> zomg: does it make sense the question when you hire a frontend dev?
[11:53:38] <icebox> zomg: bottom line, it is like a developer is the choice between a programmer and a designer
[11:54:18] <zomg> someone to fix all the random little things we don't have time to fix
[11:54:19] <zomg> :D
[11:54:25] <icebox> :P
[11:54:35] <icebox> so more a programmer :)
[11:55:07] <zomg> yeah
[11:55:33] <zomg> having some eye for design won't hurt since a lot of these things are sort of design related in ways like some button has the wrong color, some offset is not quite right, etc.
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[11:55:52] <icebox> zomg: I asked it because someone thinks the frontend dev should cover from the graphics to the implementation
[11:56:04] <zomg> ah
[11:56:14] <rand0m> back
[11:56:17] <zomg> designer is a designer, a frontend dev is a frontend dev :P
[11:56:17] <rand0m> sorry was on phone
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[11:57:08] <icebox> zomg: :P
[11:57:16] <rand0m> capgemini, accenture, infosys are crap for me
[11:57:21] <rand0m> @ Pyrrhus666
[11:58:03] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, if you want money, those are places to go though ;)
[11:58:10] <rand0m> nope
[11:58:24] <rand0m> they hire people from asia, or eastern europe where they pay low wages in their local currency
[11:58:53] <rand0m> and people living at site (like me) are snubbed because we ask to be paid in site currency and high rates
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[11:59:25] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, ah, except for the outsourcing that´s not the case in .nl (afaik)
[11:59:38] <rand0m> it is man
[11:59:45] <rand0m> i applied for a company called spindrift
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[11:59:51] <rand0m> not sure if you know
[12:00:24] <rand0m> based in Utrecht
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[12:00:27] <ngbot> angular.js/master 2c7400e Michał Gołębiowski: chore(jenkins): get rid of Opera from the Jenkins build script...
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[12:00:43] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, never heard of it.
[12:00:45] <rand0m> everything was awesome, they were about to offer me a role, and dead silence
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[12:01:29] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, found that already ;)
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[12:02:02] <rand0m> i was running on a real bad streak since september
[12:02:41] <rand0m> i got through interviews and when it was the time to sign contracts no reponse from them
[12:02:47] <rand0m> happened thrice to me
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[12:03:08] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, I thought IT jobs in .nl were still pretty easy to get ? companies all complaining they can´t find good devs, it seems...
[12:03:48] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, not letting you know is a shitty thing to do...
[12:03:52] <rand0m> I was expecting Adobe to get back to me, but they didnt either
[12:04:05] <rand0m> was really looking forward to working with Adobe
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[12:04:45] <rand0m> anyways past is the past, i think i'll start working tomorrow or monday will gave to get confirmed
[12:05:51] <rand0m> icebox I saw passengers last night
[12:06:12] <rand0m> i'll put it close to interstellar
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[12:06:46] <sunny> hello
[12:06:54] <sunny> I am facing some problem
[12:07:00] <sunny> please solve my problem
[12:07:11] <selckin> 42
[12:07:23] <Pyrrhus666> selckin, what was that question again ?
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[12:07:35] <sunny> when i am use ng-selected in <option ng-repeat><option> then value is undefined
[12:07:46] <sunny> please tell me solution
[12:08:05] <sunny> why
[12:08:06] <sunny> ?
[12:08:14] <rand0m> Pyrrhus666, what is the meaning of life and everything
[12:08:17] <sunny> how to ng-selected
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[12:08:41] <sunny> How to use ng-selected ?
[12:08:45] <rand0m> ?
[12:09:01] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, no, not really, read the books again :P
[12:09:24] <sunny> But How to use ng-selected ?
[12:09:26] <rand0m> i havent read the book, only watched the movie
[12:09:29] <sunny> in select option
[12:09:32] <rand0m> :s
[12:09:57] <rand0m> sunny if you have an object
[12:09:59] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, yeah, that´s your problem right there ;)
[12:10:15] <sunny> $scope.names = [{'id':1,'code':34,'rollno':'test'},{'id':2,'code':56,'rollno':'code'}];
[12:10:21] <sunny> <select name="mobile.selectedName" ng-model="mobile.selectedName"> <option value=''>Select Party</option> <option data-ng-repeat="name in names" value="{{name.id}}" ng-selected="name.code == checkcode">{{name.rollno}}</option> </select>
[12:10:28] <sunny> how?
[12:10:32] <rand0m> wait
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[12:12:23] <sunny> How?
[12:12:49] <rand0m> How?
[12:13:08] <Pyrrhus666> How?
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[12:15:20] * rand0m chuckles
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[12:18:47] <redsharpbyte> Hi there !
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[12:20:11] <rand0m> hay redsharpbyte
[12:20:25] <sunny> checking
[12:20:37] <rand0m> your code is a bit diffrent thab mine
[12:21:55] <redsharpbyte> hey rand0m , i am a newbie in angularjs... using ionicframework... its been 1000 webpages i am trying to get cookies ... damn it has gotten so complex
[12:22:21] <rand0m> if you are newbie in angular why are you jumping into ionic :o
[12:22:30] <rand0m> which ionic is it 1 or 2?
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[12:22:36] <redsharpbyte> rand0m: love the hard way lol
[12:22:43] <redsharpbyte> ionic 2 with angularjs 2
[12:23:13] <rand0m> aw, my limited knowledge is constrained to angular 1 only :(
[12:23:19] <redsharpbyte> angular 2.2.1
[12:23:22] <rand0m> maybe others could help you out
[12:23:30] <redsharpbyte> yeh thx i'll see.
[12:23:41] <redsharpbyte> I have noticed there is a great mess of tutorials.
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[12:24:22] <redsharpbyte> it is fine if people wants to do angular 1.x but man pages and tutos for angular2 has been deprecated so fast that they remain on the web like dirty spider webs
[12:24:31] <sunny> Hello random when i will add this button <input type="button" ng-click="testcode()" value="Click"/>
[12:24:43] <sunny> click on this button selected value
[12:24:57] <sunny> how to select on test button then select value
[12:25:04] <sunny> //click $scope.testcode=function() { };
[12:25:09] <sunny> <input type="button" ng-click="testcode()" value="Click"/>
[12:25:12] <sunny> ?
[12:25:21] <rand0m> sunny
[12:25:24] <rand0m> what is checkcode?
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[12:26:04] <sunny> I want when i will click on test button select any value how
[12:26:04] <sunny> ?
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[12:26:31] <sunny> checking
[12:27:12] <sunny> Sir please add one button
[12:27:18] <sunny> <input type="button" ng-click="testcode()" value="Click"/>
[12:27:36] <sunny> when i will click this button code is match then selected that value
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[12:28:04] <sunny> when click button code is 34 then test value will be selected how ?
[12:28:59] <rand0m> ok i've added button
[12:29:05] <sunny> where ?
[12:29:07] <rand0m> what is test value?
[12:29:08] <sunny> send link
[12:29:11] <rand0m> same liink
[12:29:13] <rand0m> refresh
[12:29:43] <rand0m> oh
[12:29:52] <rand0m> so when you click button rollno: test should be selected
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[12:29:58] <rand0m> is that what you're after?
[12:30:12] <sunny> check this where button >?
[12:30:17] <sunny> <input type="button" ng-click="testcode()" value="Click"/>
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[12:30:58] <sunny> where this function $scope.testcode=function() { };
[12:31:51] <sunny> Sir i am saying when click on click button if code is 34 then test option wil be selected
[12:31:55] <sunny> undersatnd?
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[12:34:53] <sunny> there?
[12:35:57] <sunny> You have added the Magic Trick button
[12:36:05] <sunny> I want
[12:36:46] <sunny> that i will click on Magic Trick button if code is $scope.names.code is 34 then that option will be selected
[12:37:06] <sunny> after i will get that selected value understand?
[12:37:11] <sunny> there random?
[12:37:45] <rand0m> yeah
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[12:39:24] <sunny> please help me
[12:40:13] <rand0m> here
[12:42:03] <sunny> checking
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[12:44:13] <sunny> this is two array
[12:44:29] <sunny> $scope.person.levelsArr = [ { value: "nissan", label: "Nissan" } , { value: "toyota", label: "Toyota" } , { value: "fiat", label: "Fiat" } ];
[12:44:32] <sunny> check this
[12:44:36] <sunny> i have three
[12:44:41] <sunny> $scope.names = [ {'id':1,'code':34,'rollno':'test'}, {'id':2,'code':56,'rollno':'code'} ];
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[12:46:30] <sunny> Random please help me
[12:47:34] <rand0m> sunny
[12:47:43] <sunny> checking
[12:47:50] <rand0m> i think i fixed it
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[12:49:42] <sunny> it is empty
[12:49:48] <sunny> click on button
[12:49:54] <sunny> empty value selected
[12:50:15] <rand0m> ??
[12:50:25] <sunny> open
[12:50:30] <sunny> click on button
[12:51:02] <rand0m> thats strange
[12:51:05] <rand0m> the code should be updated
[12:51:07] <rand0m> wait
[12:51:12] <sunny> $scope.names[0].id
[12:51:12] <rand0m> you're looking at wrong code
[12:51:15] <sunny> empty
[12:51:25] <sunny> what is correct code
[12:51:38] <sunny> ?
[12:53:04] <rand0m> try now
[12:53:07] <sunny> ok
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[12:56:03] <rand0m> does it work now?
[12:56:11] <Elarcis> back and metabolically functional!
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[12:57:15] <rand0m> did you have coffee or something
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[12:58:46] <Pyrrhus666> or a good shit ?
[12:58:49]
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[12:59:05] <rand0m> c'mon Pyrrhus666 not every country is as good as yours :p
[12:59:12] <rand0m> wait
[12:59:17] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, :P
[12:59:23] <rand0m> if you're talking about bodily functions @_@
[12:59:51] <sunny> Hello
[12:59:55] <sunny> Random
[13:00:07] <sunny> i want to select with code $scope.names[1].code
[13:00:10] <sunny> not id
[13:00:12] <sunny> how ?
[13:00:42] <Elarcis> sunny: $scope.names[1].id ?
[13:00:55] <Elarcis> sunny: this is not angularjs though, just basic JS
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[13:01:12] <Elarcis> sunny: => ##javascript
[13:01:31] <Elarcis> "1234 users" haha
[13:01:36] <sunny> this is sent by randon
[13:01:40] <sunny> random
[13:01:41] <rand0m> Elarcis, this chat is better than that
[13:01:46] <rand0m> im here im here
[13:01:55] <sunny> Please send correct
[13:01:56] <lock> well
[13:01:56] <sunny> code
[13:02:14] <rand0m> sunny, you said you want to change the dropdown to test on button click
[13:02:16] <rand0m> which I did
[13:02:26] <sunny> that i will click on Magic Trick button if code is $scope.names.code is 34 then that option will be selected
[13:02:38] <rand0m> yeah its plain simple
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[13:03:00] <sunny> that i will click on Click button if code is $scope.names.code is 34 then that option will be selected
[13:03:13] <sunny> how ?
[13:04:56] <pagios> hi, anyone used push notification using gcm and amazon sns?
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[13:06:21] <sunny> checking
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[13:09:25] <sunny> random how to get the id of <select ng-model="selectedId" when i will click on test button
[13:09:45] <sunny> i want id
[13:09:54] <sunny> 'id':1,
[13:09:57] <sunny> this is
[13:10:07] <sunny> my code is 34
[13:10:22] <sunny> the after i will get id selected id
[13:10:26] <sunny> how ?
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[13:10:47] <heartburn> ngdoc: ngoptions
[13:11:02] <heartburn> sunny: go there and don't come back until you read the shole thing.
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[13:13:05] <sunny> checking
[13:13:24] <rand0m> yeah sunny, read the documentation and try to understand what do you actually want to do
[13:13:27] <rand0m> figure out something
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[13:14:59] <sunny> Thanks
[13:15:05] <sunny> heartburn
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[13:15:25] <Elarcis> sunny: you don't get rid of ngModel, ngModel is the reason why your drodpown is synchronized with whichever ID you store in selectedId
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[13:16:13] <rand0m> Elarcis, in your code, you can select the select party option
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[13:16:52] <Elarcis> rand0m: how?
[13:16:55] <Elarcis> rand0m: ah yes
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[13:17:01] <rand0m> :>
[13:17:02] <Elarcis> rand0m: but selectedId will be undefined.
[13:17:07] <rand0m> yeah
[13:17:09] <rand0m> but not disabled
[13:17:20] <Elarcis> rand0m: while in YOUR code, you can't select it, but selectedId can bear its ID
[13:17:22] <rand0m> I have having something in a selectbox not disabled
[13:17:32] <rand0m> hate*
[13:18:10] <Elarcis> rand0m: which is even worse because unless checking against names[0].id, you have no way of differentiating 'selected element' from 'gray menu option is selected'
[13:19:12] <rand0m> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[13:19:27] <Elarcis> rand0m: here, disabled after the first ID has been chosen
[13:19:35] <rand0m> yeah
[13:19:40] <Elarcis> rand0m: you annoying person.
[13:19:42] <rand0m> :(
[13:19:44] <rand0m> sorry
[13:20:20] <rand0m> my idea is
[13:20:25] <rand0m> when you have something disabled
[13:20:30] <rand0m> then you cannot select it
[13:20:45] <rand0m> so you have option of selecting anything except that
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[13:24:00] <sunny> But i have some problem heartburn
[13:24:58] <umdstu> all heartburn is problem
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[13:26:07] <sunny> How to get id if code is 34
[13:26:17] <sunny> Hello
[13:26:18] <sunny> $scope.items = [{ id: 1, label: 'aLabel', subItem: { name: 'aSubItem' } }, { id: 2, label: 'bLabel', subItem: { name: 'bSubItem' } }];
[13:26:23] <sunny> i have this error
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[13:26:59] <sunny> i want if id is 2 then i want to get array { id: 2, label: 'bLabel', subItem: { name: 'bSubItem' }
[13:27:00] <sunny> how ?
[13:27:06] <sunny> how filter
[13:27:07] <sunny> ?
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[13:29:30] <sunny> Hello there?
[13:29:46] <sunny> please help me
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[13:31:02] <Elarcis> sunny: we're not doing the work for you :) you can ask angular-related questions here, but we are not going to sort out everyone of your question regarding arrays
[13:31:32] <sunny> Elaricis i have this array
[13:31:32] <sunny> $scope.items = [{ id: 1, label: 'aLabel', subItem: { name: 'aSubItem' } }, { id: 2, label: 'bLabel', subItem: { name: 'bSubItem' } }];
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[13:31:55] <sunny> i want that array if id is 1
[13:31:57] <sunny> how ?
[13:32:29] <sunny> check
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[13:45:19] <Elarcis> umdstu: since they only want THE item with an ID of 34, I thought find() was more adequate
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[13:47:26] <umdstu> Elarcis: i don’t disagree, just giving him some options
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[13:47:38] <Elarcis> umdstu: HAVING OPTIONS IS THE WORST
[13:47:39] <umdstu> s/him/them/
[13:47:51] <Elarcis> umdstu: IN AN IDEAL WORLD, NO ONE SHOULD HAVE ANY CHOICE
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[13:48:25] <Elarcis> umdstu: THERE'S A FIXED BEGINNING, A FIXED ENDING, AND EVERYTHING INBETWEEN IS JUST OBEYING THE RULES
[13:48:34] <umdstu> haha
[13:48:43] <umdstu> life lesson right there
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[13:49:19] <lock> Hello, How to print all control of form when touch or something validation error ?
[13:50:10] <Elarcis> umdstu: I just imagined a world where no one has control, they just born, watch their life unfold with them speaking and doing things they can't control, then die, without having decided anything
[13:50:17] <Elarcis> umdstu: terrifying
[13:50:41] <lock> Hello, How to print all control of form when touch or something validation error ?
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[13:51:16] <Elarcis> lock: yourFormName.yourControl.$error is an object containing all the error keys
[13:51:30] <Elarcis> lock: or I didn't understand your question
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[13:54:15] <umdstu> Elarcis: why would you imagine such a thing
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[13:59:55] <Elarcis> umdstu: imagine it's what's happening right now, there's someone in your head watching you live
[14:00:16] <Elarcis> umdstu: and they're like "OF COURSE IT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, LET ME HAVE MY WORD!"
[14:00:23] <Elarcis> umdstu: and you'll never know if that's true
[14:00:30] <Elarcis> umdstu: except the person in your head knows
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[14:01:12] <umdstu> haha
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[14:01:38] <umdstu> so we’re all victims of multiple personality disorder
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[14:02:14] <Elarcis> umdstu: except actual schyzos are people whose different person in the head can act
[14:02:15] <Elarcis> :D
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[14:07:52] <umdstu> Elarcis: so they can tell us whether it’s actually happening or not! but that begs the question, should we trust their confirmations
[14:08:12] <icebox> docmur: use jquery :)
[14:08:45] <icebox> docmur: angular is not for dom manipulation... it is data oriented
[14:09:22] <icebox> docmur: generally speaking, see the code in jquery for .closest()
[14:09:34] <docmur> Ya i know how to do it with jQuery
[14:09:40] <docmur> was hoping I didn't have to it
[14:09:48] <icebox> docmur: perfect... you know the answer :)
[14:09:54] <sunny> ] <Elarcis> thanks
[14:09:59] <docmur> *to use it
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[14:11:02] <Elarcis> docmur: if you're angularizing right you shouldn't have to get any element ID most of the time
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[14:12:11] <docmur> Okay, so how would I figure out what <td> I just clicked the <i> of? Once I know that, the rest of what I'm trying to do is easy. jQuery does simplify this
[14:13:38] <icebox> docmur: you don't need to think in terms of dom, but in terms of components and data
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[14:15:32] <icebox> docmur: are you developing a table widget or do you need to use a table widget?
[14:16:24] <docmur> I'm in a table right now that has some <i> tags in it. When I click the i tag, I want to change it's colour, based on the colour inside of it currently. I'm trying to hack something together right now, it'll be replace later with a proper implmentation
[14:17:15] <icebox> docmur: because if you need a so called table or grid widget, there are many ready to use, without reinventing the wheel
[14:18:07] <docmur> I don't need a tablet widget, I'm just trying to hack together a quick solution for swapping the colour of the <i> tag.
[14:18:48] <icebox> docmur: ok... I think for a quick solution swapping the colour, jquery is the best tool
[14:19:45] <icebox> docmur: don't use angular to manipulate dom: there is too much overhead
[14:19:45] <docmur> I agree :), was just wondering if Angular had a quick way to handle it, but thanks :)
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[14:20:32] <Elarcis> docmur: meanwhile, I'd do a colorChanger directive that takes a color code as an input, and when clicked just sets the ng-style of its element
[14:21:17] <Elarcis> docmur: <i color-changer="yourColor">{{ yourColor }}</i>
[14:21:27] <Elarcis> docmur: but I'm always for the overengineered solution :D
[14:22:47] <Elarcis> docmur: or <i ng-style="getColor()" ng-click="setColor(yourColor)">{{ yourColor }}</i> if you have to do it only once
[14:22:54] <icebox> Elarcis: well... agreed... but using angular to change only a color of a cell seems quite overhelming :)
[14:23:12] <Elarcis> icebox: agreed
[14:23:13] <Elarcis> :D
[14:23:33] <Elarcis> icebox: buuut, I did code a cool qr-code directive once
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[14:24:02] <Elarcis> icebox: used only once, gets data, size and replication inputs, generates the QRCode using google charts
[14:24:21] <icebox> Elarcis: ok... but that is for fun :)
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[14:42:06] <heartburn> native form api gives me a raging boner right now.
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[14:42:58] <Pyrrhus666> until you notice all the ¨no support¨ entries.
[14:43:30] <heartburn> i\m lucky enough to stop caring about that.
[14:43:42] <Pyrrhus666> then you are lucky indeed :)
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[14:44:36] <rand0m> :D :D :D
[14:44:48] <rand0m> everything's falling into places
[14:45:17] <rand0m> looks like I may start tomorrow
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[14:46:05] <rand0m> brb going for lunch
[14:46:13] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, gz again :)
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[14:46:17] <heartburn> seriously tho, the more time i spend going without any frameworks, the more i realise it's pretty fucking doable nowadays. there are of course issues, like non-existent view/model binding.
[14:46:22] <heartburn> but it's a breeze really
[14:47:04] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, at least the days of wild incompat are behind us, that helps.
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[14:48:21] <icebox> heartburn: using proxy and tagged template feature you may build a naive two way data binding with a few lines :)
[14:48:31] <heartburn> well, there are still many, but yeah, it's *much* better than a couple years ago
[14:49:30] <heartburn> icebox: i'm gonna read up on that, thanks.
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[14:49:45] <icebox> heartburn: anyway no framework (or micro ones) vs. convoluted frameworks apply to different domains
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[14:52:42] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, although interesting, the mix of code and html in that template literals article looks horrific...
[14:52:44] <icebox> heartburn: and the driver is the size of the project... it is not about micro frameworks don't scale or angular (or react) do it better... it is about best practices, conventions, patterns... it is about how to scale the team, not the code... :)
[14:52:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed... indeed it is naive :)
[14:53:39] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: it is only a PoC, don't use in production :)
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[14:54:10] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I won´t ;) it´s nice to see how far js has come though.
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[14:57:57] <icebox> heartburn: if a large team worked with vanilla js, it would be a chaos... not for the code itself... it could be also good, but without any "standard" to follow, the code would loose coherence in a few iterations
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[14:58:40] <icebox> heartburn: frameworks like angular help a lot in that use case
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[14:59:31] <icebox> heartburn: if the team is small and the project is a few thousands LOC large, it makes no diff whatever you use
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[14:59:58] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, generally, as I see it, working in vanilla will just mean you end up writing your own framework, because, you know, DRY.
[15:00:15] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: exactly
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[15:01:54] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: and don't forget the team can change completely in the years... and a custom framework may have less pros
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[15:02:44] <Elarcis> euw, Chrome changed the default font
[15:02:46] <Elarcis> I don't like it
[15:02:55] <Elarcis> wait no
[15:02:58] <Elarcis> only for my site
[15:03:00] <Elarcis> what the hell
[15:03:07] <icebox> so in a large project I would say team and time make the difference between the choice of a mainstream framework and a micro one
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[15:03:51] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I know. I wrote framework like stuff in php ;) nice, but I wouldn´t do it again with a plethora of choices available ;)
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[15:06:38] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: lichess is a large project... many times I tried to contribute on frontend side... it is a nightmare, mainly not for mithril choice, but it is evident there are many arbitrary choices, following the logic of a (very) small team (maybe one person), instead of respecting best practices, pattern and so on
[15:07:22] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: with angular you loose in "flexibility", but you gain in "standard"
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[15:08:21] <icebox> sometimes "don't fight with the framework" is a feature :)
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[15:08:44] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah, that´s why I like frameworks. although within those confines you can still make arbitrary (wrong) choices :)
[15:09:00] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, tell that to Elarcis regarding css frameworks :P
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[15:10:54] <icebox> :P
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[15:20:09] <Elarcis> icebox, Pyrrhus666 : T_T
[15:20:18] <Elarcis> CSS frameworks are evil
[15:20:21] <icebox> :P
[15:20:32] <Elarcis> I want to do my own BEM CSS
[15:20:47] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, you´re just vanilla that way ;)
[15:20:58] <Elarcis> Vanilla's my favorite :D
[15:21:00] <icebox> you know... I like tachyons
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[15:21:32] <Elarcis> icebox: BUUUUURN
[15:21:33] <Elarcis> :D
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[15:21:53] <icebox> :)
[15:22:15] <Pyrrhus666> or like, sex ?
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[15:22:33] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: no, vanilla
[15:22:49] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, yeah, the vanilla kind ;)
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[15:25:12] <Elarcis> icebox: using those classes looks great and all, but you replace BEM by CES : Component-Element-State, and bam you've got the best CSS methodology for web components :D
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[15:27:09] <Elarcis> icebox: even consider Component-Node-Element-State, and you get CNES; which is rad.
[15:28:45] <Pyrrhus666> I thought RAD was something completely different...
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[15:32:27] <icebox> Elarcis: I lost there :)
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[15:34:36] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I don't like RAD
[15:34:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: As I always shout: NO RAD!
[15:35:02] <Pyrrhus666> so, SAD, then ?
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[15:35:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: Is it a NES variant? The SAD-NES?
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[15:35:49] <Pyrrhus666> it could well be. as opposed to RAD-NESS ;)
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[15:35:56] <Elarcis> the host kicked me for that joke
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[15:53:50] <Elarcis> Typescript enums or type simpleEnum = 'value1' | 'value2' | 'value3'? One is definitely simpler and Javascript-friendly :D
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[15:57:03] <icebox> Elarcis: the first one
[15:57:13] <Elarcis> icebox: you're not fun :c
[15:57:24] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: He is cold :)
[15:57:45] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: he is, isn't he
[15:58:13] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: OT - reading about conical extractors... guess why? :)
[15:58:28] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, no idea. arrival ?
[15:59:07] <Elarcis> turns out you can do yourEnum[yourEnum.Value] to get the name of your enum value as a string
[15:59:44] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: TS?
[16:00:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: no... :) broken screw... the head is gone
[16:00:36] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: TS, but JS as well. Enums are just two ways mappings
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[16:00:38] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, normally, that´d mean grabbing a drill ;)
[16:01:18] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... but with conical extractors (20euros) you don't need to break all
[16:01:25] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: which is why an enum member cannot have a numeric name, nor a string value, it's a kind of hacky way to make a two ways map in the same object without getting any collision
[16:03:12] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: ahh i get it. I like it tbh! Quite often I get annoyed at not being able to backout the name of the enum.
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[16:04:54] <Elarcis> they should encode the src in base64
[16:05:04] <Elarcis> this is a call for wrong URLs
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[16:24:41] <Snugglebash> Finally not disconnected
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[16:28:16] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: >:c
[16:28:36] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: dont be furious
[16:28:52] <Elarcis> I am.
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[16:30:16] <Elarcis> I'm so angry!
[16:31:04] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: oooooh, what I'm gonna do to youuu
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[16:31:50] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: provide insightful help with angular?
[16:31:55] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: Correct!
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[16:34:23] <ankush_> hello
[16:34:38] <icebox> ankush_: hey
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[16:35:36] <ankush_> i am thinking to start to learn angular js..but i am confused because where i should start..angular1 or angular 2
[16:35:40] <ankush_> anyone help me
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[16:36:28] <icebox> ankush_: learning ok... what for?
[16:36:46] <ankush_> for getting good job..and in MVC
[16:36:51] <ankush_> asp.net MVC
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[16:37:20] <icebox> ankush_: so learn angular (release 2.x or higher)... but there is a lot of angularjs (release 1.x) legacy code
[16:37:36] <icebox> ankush_: so I am afraid you need to learn both
[16:38:04] <ankush_> so what should i do..because angular 3 is also developing..
[16:38:09] <icebox> ankush_: no
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[16:39:09] <ankush_> is there any stable version in angular.?
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[16:39:23] <icebox> ankush_: imagine angularjs is angular 1.x and angular is 2.x or higher... they are two different products... angular 2.x or higher (3 doesn't exist), the next release is 4
[16:39:29] <icebox> ankush_: sure
[16:39:40] <icebox> ankush_: it is in the topis
[16:39:43] <icebox> *topic
[16:40:26] <ankush_> ok so i will start with angular 1
[16:40:44] <icebox> ankush_: well... I said a different thing... :)
[16:40:58] <icebox> ankush_: why did you choice to learn angularjs?
[16:41:21] <icebox> *did you choose
[16:41:29] <ankush_> because its a latest technology and better advantages
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[16:41:44] <icebox> ankush_: the latest is angular, not angularjs... release 2.x or higher
[16:42:13] <ankush_> so its different angular and angularjs?
[16:42:17] <icebox> ankush_: yes
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[16:42:31] <ankush_> can u explain me a little bit
[16:42:40] <icebox> ankush_: no
[16:42:47] <ankush_> ok
[16:42:59] <icebox> ankush_: google is your friend... I cannot recap 8 years of development in irc :)
[16:43:19] <ankush_> no problem bro...i will..thanks
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[16:44:19] <icebox> ankush_: you are welcome... when you are in stuck, we are here
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[16:44:37] <ankush_> yes...
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[16:48:29] <icebox> off... bye
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[16:50:27] <mgochoa> Hi
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[17:04:59] <rand0m> hola
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[17:05:49] <rand0m> Snugglebash, hay
[17:05:51] <rand0m> hello
[17:06:00] <Snugglebash> hi rand0m
[17:06:06] <rand0m> how are you mate
[17:06:12] <Snugglebash> wonderful you?
[17:06:39] <rand0m> same same
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[17:36:41] <LeBlaaanc> Should i deregister $on(..) listeners in $onDestroy?
[17:37:18] <Elarcis> LeBlaaanc: it is done automatically in most cases, but it doesn't hurt to manually specify it
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[17:38:12] <LeBlaaanc> it hurts when i don't understand if it's necessary hah
[17:38:18] <LeBlaaanc> or why
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[17:44:17] <LeBlaaanc> thanks
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[17:57:11] <omenius> is it a thing to have service, just for holding the datamodel of the app?
[17:57:24] <omenius> or factory
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[17:59:45] <omenius> also if you have truly spa, with abstract top state, is that state's controller good alrenative place for that datamodel? Would at least be easy to bind the model into views
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[18:01:24] <omenius> or should I maybe distribute the datamodel in services/factories that are assosiated with the data, that sounds smart
[18:01:51] <omenius> that is how I've build it already actually
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[18:02:32] <omenius> but please say something becouse I'm such freestyler and I would actually like to build this good
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[18:07:44] <Elarcis> omenius: it is totally a thing
[18:08:22] <Elarcis> omenius: controller should only be there to interface between the view and the model. it manages the view's state, not the app's.
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[18:11:46] <pagios> guys
[18:11:49] <redsharpbyte> yeah
[18:11:58] <pagios> can i ask an ionic question here
[18:12:07] <Snugglebash> pagios: nope
[18:12:18] <pagios> nvm
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[18:18:38] <redsharpbyte> ahh too bad lol
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[18:22:57] <kas84> Hi
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[18:23:30] <kas84> how can I display a div, and remove it when angular finishes rendering?
[18:24:11] <kas84> but not with ng-show or ng-if because, other wise, that won’t render when I want to
[18:24:11] <redsharpbyte> you want a loading info window kas84 ?
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[18:25:10] <kas84> while loading info and iteraing data in angular
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[18:25:41] <Elarcis> kas84: there's a ng-cloak directive
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[18:25:56] <kas84> the thing is what I am doing is somewhat heavy, and even though it’s already loaded, I need to evaluate some variables first, so I want to show that
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[18:26:02] <Elarcis> kas84: it adds a ng-cloak class to the element you apply it on. You can use CSS to show/hide elements based on that
[18:26:09] <kas84> but ng-cloak is for hidding stuff, right?
[18:26:16] <Elarcis> kas84: ng-cloak removes the ng-cloack class when angular is done loading itself
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[18:26:31] <Elarcis> kas84: it only adds a class, the hiding is your own decision via CSS
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[18:26:37] <kas84> oh, okay
[18:26:39] <kas84> that’s awesome
[18:26:41] <kas84> thanks
[18:26:53] <Elarcis> kas84: np!
[18:27:01] <Elarcis> kas84: wait
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[18:27:34] <Elarcis> kas84: ng-cloak will disappear once angular has loaded, but it can't be used when you're loading data inside of your controllers for example
[18:28:04] <Elarcis> kas84: it seems it won't solve your issue
[18:28:15] <Elarcis> what are you doing of so heavy that even ng-if/show wouldn't work?
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[18:32:31] <Elarcis> side note, that loading animations is cool-looking, but the HTML and CSS behind it are horrendous
[18:33:00] <Elarcis> I guess "LET'S TARGET ALL BROWSERS EVER" has its drawbacks
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[18:37:38] <kas84> there are >100 elements in ng-repeat and I am ng-including depending on what type of object i am iterating
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[18:43:20] <Elarcis> kas84 you should handle the loading inside of the element itself, and you should avoid ng-include as possible unless it's totally the only way (even with $compile)
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[18:43:57] <Elarcis> kas84: either way you can try having the loading anim. inside of the element you're using ng-include on, it'll probably be displayed until ng-include loaded the template
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[19:27:27] <Angus> hi
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[19:32:45] <redsharpbyte> Hi Angus
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[19:46:43] <andiigii> Somewhat new to angular, havent used it in a while. Having routing problems. My a tags with href="#target" produces /#!/#target in the url, routing checking for /target doesnt pick that up
[19:47:10] <andiigii> manually changing the url to #!/target works fine, but i have no idea why my links doesnt really work
[19:47:29] <andiigii> it could very well just be a brainfart.. but I'm not able to wrap my head around this
[19:47:36] <andiigii> angular 1.6.1 btw
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[19:48:55] <andiigii> I'll be glad if anyone can guide me in the right direction..
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[19:54:20] <heartburn> ngdoc: locationProvider
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[19:55:22] <heartburn> andiigii: --^
[19:55:42] <heartburn> $locationProvider.html5Mode({ enabled: true, requireBase: true });
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[20:00:05] <andiigii> heartburn: that was new to me, but found a bunch of stuff regarding this on the net now when i search
[20:00:13] <andiigii> so I'll guess i'll investigate
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[20:00:50] <heartburn> tl;dr: if you wanna get rid of #!, enable html5 mode.
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[20:02:40] <andiigii> heartburn: yeah I got it to work, got a base-tag and i needed to rewrite my links as /<path>
[20:03:06] <andiigii> this isn't the version of routing I used the last time I did angular routing, but hey, it works and it looks nice :)
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[20:04:29] <andiigii> heartburn: quick question, what if I wanted to simply point to a static html page in a link? would I just simply not specify it in the routing setup, and it won't pick it up?
[20:04:34] <andiigii> seems easy to test though..
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[20:04:50] <andiigii> yup, that worked
[20:04:52] <andiigii> nice!
[20:04:53] <andiigii> thanks
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[20:44:42] <Doginal> anyone having issues with angular material and md-swipe-(left/right)? When I have both on the same div its only fires the swipe left, this seems to only be happening in chrome. Any ideas?
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[21:18:17] <zuloyd> hi
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[21:18:43] <zuloyd> in Angular 2, how can I add a CSS class to the body depending on which page is active?
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[21:39:57] <Doginal> zuloyd, ng-class?
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[21:40:20] <heartburn> ngdoc: 2 ngclass
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[23:26:16] <illug> I'm new to angular. Should I build and distribute angular-csp.css? I am looking at some gulp scripts for angular and none of them put that file into the build.
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[23:43:55] <wafflejock> illug, depends on the execution environment if you're just deploying a regular web app won't make a difference
[23:44:18] <illug> wafflejock: Yeah I just read about it, thanks :)
[23:44:27] <wafflejock> illug, cool np
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