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[00:01:13] <FFForever> Nvm... I was selecting itself from the container.
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[00:14:03] <NomadJim> if you're building an express + angular 2 app do you have to do an ng build each time you make a code change and want to test it?
[00:14:21] <NomadJim> I'm following along w/ https://scotch.io/tutorials/mean-app-with-angular-2-and-the-angular-cli and that's his flow
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[00:33:48] <rand0m> NomadJim
[00:34:10] <rand0m> https://egghead.io/courses/how-to-use-npm-scripts-as-your-build-tool
[00:34:14] <rand0m> maybe this will help?
[00:34:46] <NomadJim> cool ty
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[00:47:45] <kus> https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/commits/master do they even look at the travis ci build status before merging?
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[00:49:36] <rand0m> hey NomadJim
[00:49:46] <rand0m> did you manage to find a solution for your problem
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[00:50:18] <NomadJim> i don't have it autorebuilding on change yet
[00:50:27] <NomadJim> that's what my end goal is gonna be
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[00:50:53] <rand0m> I am not sure if that video series I posed will have autorebuilding it it
[00:50:55] <rand0m> in*
[00:51:01] <NomadJim> i'm going to have express and angular in separate directories w/ separate packages.json files
[00:51:10] <rand0m> but here's an alternative pack you could follow
[00:51:11] <rand0m> https://github.com/angularclass/angular2-webpack-starter
[00:51:37] <rand0m> everthing is configured in this already
[00:51:46] <NomadJim> nice
[00:51:48] <rand0m> so you could just start writing your angular app
[00:51:56] <rand0m> instead of fighting with configuration
[00:52:09] <NomadJim> npm run watch looks like the auto rebuild?
[00:52:20] <rand0m> you could later on learn webpack, and try to understand how this project is configured
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[00:52:36] <NomadJim> true
[00:53:01] <rand0m> I believe that npm run watch is custom implementation they wrote
[00:53:10] <rand0m> im not sure, don't quote me on that
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[01:30:32] <NomadJim> I've got it autoreloading when the express changes by making my build script be "ng build && nodemon server.js", but still can't get it to auto reload on angular 2 changes
[01:30:49] <NomadJim> I think normally you'd juse use ng serve and that would auto reload everything
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[01:43:46] <NomadJim> but I'm looking for functionality that probably isn't in the angular2-cli - ng build --auto
[01:44:44] <NomadJim> I'll try the angular2-webpack-starter
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[01:48:41] <rand0m> cool :)
[01:54:05] <FFForever> What's the best way to display a spinner while loading new data on the same child route? for instance when changing from /order/1 to /order/2
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[02:04:18] <rand0m> FFForever, check this out man
[02:04:18] <rand0m> http://codetunnel.io/how-to-do-loading-spinners-the-angular-way/
[02:04:29] <rand0m> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37069609/show-loading-screen-when-navigating-between-routes-in-angular-2
[02:04:41] <rand0m> anyways im off to sleep
[02:04:43] <rand0m> ciao
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[02:04:54] <FFForever> Thanks
[02:05:13] <FFForever> I saw that SO link, not sure if it works the same on child routes though
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[03:27:55] <cquik001> Hopefully someone can help -- why will my child scope not pass the value up to the parent through the & binding? http://plnkr.co/edit/iK1Vx4ZBL7xmaqsKOwDx
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[08:39:51] <icebox> What is Angular? http://developer.telerik.com/topics/web-development/what-is-angular/
[08:40:41] <arnsa> spoiler alert: a framework
[08:41:37] <av3rag3j03> a framework at angles ??
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[09:03:26] <anli_> I want to have a checkbox that maps to a value thats either 1 or 2, do I use a filter then?
[09:04:43] <anli_> oh wait, formatter maybe
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[09:05:53] <anli_> I may have answered my own question
[09:06:15] <Pyrrhus666> anli_, ng-true-value=¨2¨ ng-false-value=¨1¨
[09:06:23] <anli_> oh, thats it?
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[09:06:36] <Pyrrhus666> https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/input/input%5Bcheckbox%5D
[09:06:40] <anli_> :)
[09:06:48] <Pyrrhus666> yes, that´s it :)
[09:07:36] <anli_> Totally awesome
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[09:13:02] <icebox> hey
[09:13:05] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
[09:13:13] <Pyrrhus666> morning icebox :)
[09:13:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: docs are underrated :)
[09:14:33] <Pyrrhus666> not by us old folks though :)
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[09:14:46] <Pyrrhus666> them young´uns with their ´videos´ :)
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[09:17:23] <rand0m_> Hi
[09:18:01] <rand0m_> Hay icebox Pyrrhus666
[09:18:25] <Pyrrhus666> morning rand0m_
[09:18:48] <rand0m_> Morning mate
[09:18:50] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: a few days ago, on an important national newspaper, an article was published with the title "70 percent of Italians are illiterate (read, watch, listen, but not understand)" (that figure is a result of an academic research... european average is lower, but still)
[09:19:08] <icebox> rand0m_: hey
[09:19:20] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, that´s quite shocking...
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[09:20:44] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: OT - http://www.lastampa.it/2017/01/10/blogs/il-villaggio-quasi-globale/il-per-cento-degli-italiani-analfabeta-legge-guarda-ascolta-ma-non-capisce-MDZVIPwxMmX7V4LOUuAEUO/pagina.html
[09:22:20] <anli_> Pyrrhus666: lol @ youngsters with their videos :)
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[09:24:48] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I recently had a discussion with friends about the growing popularity of populist politicians and how the media might have played into that. sounds like stuff like this (functional illiteracy) could be a bigger factor than we thought...
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[09:25:17] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: fully agreed
[09:25:52] <Snugglebash> Morning chaps and chappettes
[09:26:12] <Pyrrhus666> morning Snugglebash
[09:26:25] <icebox> Snugglebash: hello
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[09:37:43] <Elarcis> damn, VSCode is getting sexier and sexier each month
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[09:39:33] <Pyrrhus666> so, ditching webstorm ?
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[09:43:25] <arnsa> Elarcis, agree, but I still like sublime text more
[09:43:33] <arnsa> tried Atom, but it was laggy and not smooth at all
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[09:47:13] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: yeah it's definitely come a long way. Only thing is it doesnt seem to be wonderful for Java so i still use netbeans for that.
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[09:48:53] <FatNoLife> cant join #javascript :(
[09:49:04] <Snugglebash> ##javascript
[09:52:04] <anli_> Why isnt the name ###javascript?
[09:53:20] <Snugglebash> anli_ because that would be ridiculous
[09:53:38] <roek> I am setting up angular-cli (for angular2) and try to include some static files from a node module. I put the images folder in the assets array [ "../node_modules/<package>"] but this is ignored. If I put the folder inside the project root, then it works.
[09:53:38] <roek> Should I not have node modules in the parent directory? Or should I maybe reference the images in some other way
[09:53:41] <anli_> Ah, so thats why its called ##javascript
[09:54:03] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
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[09:54:45] <icebox> FatNoLife: you need to be registered to irc
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[09:56:23] <icebox> FatNoLife: (identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>)
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[10:07:28] <coder_2014> has anyone used jspdf with angular2? in case any of you have, is it possible to dynamically add/remove components from the pdf based on the page structure as I'm dynamically creating components on the fly
[10:09:13] <coder_2014> what I had in mind was to add text to a global jsPDF variable everytime a component is generated, so hopefully when somebody presses the save() method all those components would be printed in the final PDF?
[10:09:34] <coder_2014> does that make sense at all? appreciate it
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[10:22:13] <icebox> I am starting to think a few complains, about entry barrier in the official docs, are real... https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/quickstart.html shows a few lines of code as minimal example... but that example doesn't work if a default module is not created and bootstrapped... sigh
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[10:23:20] <Snugglebash> its fine it you use the CLI
[10:23:26] <Snugglebash> does all that stuff for you
[10:23:28] <icebox> indeed that is done behind the scenes in plunker example with https://cdn.rawgit.com/angular/angular.io/b3c65a9/public/docs/_examples/_boilerplate/systemjs.config.web.js
[10:24:02] <icebox> Snugglebash: yep... but my point is another... I am saying those lines are not the minimal ones
[10:24:07] <Snugglebash> icebox: I have recently gone through tonnes of the entry docs... I dont think they are particularly bad
[10:24:36] <Snugglebash> icebox: Sure but you cant babysit people
[10:25:29] <Snugglebash> icebox: maybe get CLI quickstart first because that makes learning the framework a tonne easier
[10:25:30] <icebox> Snugglebash: well... but neither confuse them
[10:25:53] <icebox> Snugglebash: cli is beta and not mandatory to develop an angular app
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[10:26:56] <Snugglebash> icebox: Sure, I would just say that having just gone through it all that the CLI helped alot
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[10:30:18] <Snugglebash> icebox: are you somehow responsible for docs?
[10:30:53] <icebox> Snugglebash: no... Foxandxss wrote a lot of them
[10:31:29] <icebox> Snugglebash: this is the minimal example https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/appmodule.html
[10:32:06] <icebox> Snugglebash: and I am sure a beginner wondering about @angular/platform-browser-dynamic vs. @angular/platform-browser
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[10:32:32] <FatNoLife> how the hell do i use this ? https://github.com/furnishup/blueprint3d
[10:32:38] <FatNoLife> no install method!
[10:32:50] <icebox> Snugglebash: it may be explained here https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/architecture.html
[10:33:18] <Pyrrhus666> FatNoLife, it has a package.json, so npm install && npm start ?
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[10:34:08] <FatNoLife> ugh
[10:34:25] <Snugglebash> icebox: I worked through the 'Guide' area sequentially and thought it was pretty well explained, at least for a few hours of investigating.
[10:34:26] <FatNoLife> so its a library that i have to copy into my app
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[10:34:56] <Pyrrhus666> FatNoLife, it´s an application in itself.
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[10:35:42] <icebox> Snugglebash: fully agreed... but maybe for a complete beginner it is a bit frustrating because there are a few details missing (jit vs. aot) explained in awesome blog posts of devs (Victor Savkin and so on)
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[10:36:36] <Snugglebash> icebox: I suppose I was a little confused by Typescript in general, so I will agree that I went looking around blogs for how it worked.
[10:36:47] <icebox> Snugglebash: said with other words... when a few irc users complain about frustrating experience with official docs... maybe they are right :)
[10:37:15] <FatNoLife> why is the lead dev of my company saying its a library then? >.<
[10:38:09] <Snugglebash> FatNoLife: He's an alcoholic?
[10:38:10] <selckin> on that note, i think the docs should warn about ubuntu default packaging of nodejs not working
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[10:39:11] <icebox> selckin: that is a grey zone :)
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[10:40:06] <selckin> try it
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[10:41:02] <icebox> selckin: what I am saying devs need to know their boxes and setups... angular states only the requirements
[10:41:15] <FatNoLife> Snugglebash : i dunno, he doesnt talk much, seems very calm and reserved... wait a minute...
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[10:41:23] <Snugglebash> icebox: Agree
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[10:41:34] <icebox> selckin: but of course a note about that would help
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[10:42:43] <selckin> icebox: everything run and start with 'nodejs' but then it tried to instal dependencies that require 'node' binary on the path, and fail in non obvious ways, but yeah i guess that docs do say "node -v"
[10:42:44] <icebox> FatNoLife: before any action... check the source code, the only source of truth, and play with the code giving a look at the examples... so you have a literate knwledge about that repo
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[10:43:43] <selckin> icebox: after that, i had another thing fail, and then i installed from the node deb repos, and that magiclly work
[10:44:28] <FatNoLife> icebox : its fine, i get it... you have to run the project and it generates a js file to be used in your app
[10:44:38] <selckin> if i didn't already like angular 1, i'd be off to try something else
[10:44:47] <FatNoLife> i dunno why they dont have like a bower install or something
[10:45:16] <Pyrrhus666> FatNoLife, have you read the readme stating it was rushed, needs refactoring and needs help ?
[10:45:41] <FatNoLife> lol
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[10:46:03] <icebox> selckin: I suppose we are saying the same... I said a similar thing above about the minimal example
[10:46:15] <FatNoLife> i like how it just says 1 thing about the usage of the library : "see the example"
[10:46:46] <Pyrrhus666> FatNoLife, which show perfectly to just include the js.
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[10:48:11] <FatNoLife> no wonder they have 104 forks
[10:49:01] <Pyrrhus666> FatNoLife, if nobody offers PRs, that´s not surprising. also, forking is quite a normal way of working with libs.
[10:49:21] <icebox> selckin: anyway filling issues is the way... for instance, https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/issues/2336
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[10:50:18] <icebox> selckin: my complain was more about the approach than a bug or lacking of docs
[10:50:22] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, does ng-cli still have that horrible amount of deps ? like 330MB worth ?
[10:50:31] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I think so
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[10:50:48] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ugh. still staying the hell away from it.
[10:51:00] <selckin> the ng cli hello world app pulls in 700 modules
[10:51:02] <FatNoLife> i used ng-cli
[10:51:03] <selckin> :)
[10:51:04] <FatNoLife> worked well
[10:51:05] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: here the same
[10:51:11] <FatNoLife> i didnt take a look at its deps though
[10:51:31] <icebox> FatNoLife: "ember-cli" dep, for instance :)
[10:51:32] <FatNoLife> if i try an npm cache clean and it takes 3 hours i'll know why
[10:51:52] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, if I have time, I´m gonna try a setup from the ground up for ng2 without cli...
[10:52:08] <Pyrrhus666> just to get the experience...
[10:52:13] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: well... I am doing that... but using ES2015
[10:52:14] <Snugglebash> ng-cli is awesome <3
[10:52:40] <icebox> Snugglebash: sure... but it is a bit opinionated :)
[10:52:44] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, yeah, until it breaks. it´s a big black magic box, and I don´t like those.
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[10:53:08] <Pyrrhus666> let´s stat that again : BIG black magic box :)
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[10:53:15] <Snugglebash> icebox: sure but for us n00bs we need a little bit of an opinion
[10:53:26] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I hope to finish the migration before angular 4 (at the endo of month)
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[10:53:54] <FatNoLife> i must admit migrating angular 1 to 2 is a pain
[10:54:14] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, when I first started ng (also ng2) I just grabbed an opinionated starter/seed :)
[10:54:18] <icebox> FatNoLife: well... agreed if you didn't follow strictly best practices
[10:54:43] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: isnt that what the big black magic ng-cli box does?
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[10:55:21] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, depends. it´s meant to be the end-all thing to use, not just generating a starter.
[10:55:27] <FatNoLife> i think its mostly to do with my lack of experience with ng2
[10:55:35] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, although, admittedly, you could use it that way
[10:56:16] <icebox> FatNoLife: more or less the path is the following: https://vsavkin.com/migrating-angular-1-applications-to-angular-2-in-5-simple-steps-40621800a25b#.ecieqvue7
[10:56:23] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, when I use a starter, I clone that repo, and build my app, never again referring back to the original.
[10:56:47] <FatNoLife> thanks
[10:57:33] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: I dont get what difference you are explaining
[10:58:24] <ReScO> Is it possible to use ng2 in a offline situation?
[10:58:58] <FatNoLife> what like with a cordova/phonegap app or soemthing?
[10:59:12] <ReScO> Nope, just from the browser on a laptop
[10:59:18] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, normally, you´d use ng-cli not just to generate a starting point, but for all tasks after as well (building, running, testing, adding more modules etc.)
[10:59:29] <icebox> ReScO: yes, it is
[10:59:47] <FatNoLife> yeah if you generate the js files you can just open index.html in your chrome
[10:59:55] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, with a starter, you don´t (or I don´t). then I just use npm scripts and webpack configs
[10:59:59] <ReScO> Basically, i'm working on a project for school, and their requirement is that students can take a test, but it should be near impossible to cheat.
[11:00:23] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: Ah ok I get it. I am happy for it to give me a little more guidance as to doing some tasks for me! :)
[11:00:39] <FatNoLife> why dont you just put them on a local network without internet and host a website
[11:00:44] <icebox> ReScO: that requirement is unrelated to angular :)
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[11:01:08] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, that´s fine, I hope it works for you, I´m just too afraid it´ll cause problems down the road, so to say ;)
[11:01:21] <FatNoLife> icebox : true dat
[11:01:36] <ReScO> So my idea was downloading the test to the student's PC, then show a screen to tell them to turn the internet connection off, and then continuously check for a connection while serving the test, if it's connected to internet, disable the test and even mark it as a failed test, same goes for resizing the window or when it loses focus, does this sound doable in angular?
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[11:01:59] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, also, I like to understand how to setup a project. but sometimes, I admit, a tool like ng-cli can be damn handy...
[11:02:01] <ReScO> So it goes from an online app, to an offline app and then back to an online app
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[11:02:10] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: It probably will, but I am still just exploring Angular, if I move my from Angularjs then maybe I set it up without CLI
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[11:02:28] <FatNoLife> ReScO what kind of test is it?
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[11:02:33] <icebox> ReScO: it is feasible
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[11:02:50] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, or maybe cli will get less big and black and scary and everyone will use it ;)
[11:03:02] <FatNoLife> because to be brutally honest, if its a test in programming... just give them the same ressources as they'd have at work
[11:03:06] <icebox> ReScO: but again it doesn't implement the requirement (no cheating) :)
[11:03:09] <FatNoLife> which means : access to the internet
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[11:03:35] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: sure they could make the commands lower level and more customizable
[11:03:46] <ReScO> FatNoLife, theory tests, usually only written on paper to prevent the use of internet, and IDE's/Editors to check if the answer to a question pans out right.
[11:04:07] <FatNoLife> then why no written test?
[11:04:19] <ReScO> FatNoLife, practical exams are with internet, theory exams without and on paper only
[11:04:30] <ReScO> so yeah, literally writing a page full of php code sometimes,
[11:04:37] <ReScO> or JS for that matter
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[11:05:27] <FatNoLife> well if your theory exams mean writing a full page of php they're not theory tests... a theory test means asking what a framework does or writing pseudo-code
[11:05:34] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, fun info : when it started, ng-cli was dependant on a whole other framework : ember. so one of the big deps was ember-cli. that felt very weird... seems that dep is gone though.
[11:05:52] <FatNoLife> asking how an algorithm would work or what data-structure to use, i don't know...
[11:05:59] <ReScO> FatNoLife, because personally, i've injured my right hand by falling through glass, so can't really write three pages worth of answers, and it's easier to type than write for most programmers anyway.
[11:06:02] <FatNoLife> but never just blurting out full code
[11:06:05] <ReScO> Oh, and it saves trees!
[11:06:26] <ReScO> FatNoLife, I guess you and my school have a different view on theory exams then :P
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[11:06:52] <FatNoLife> yeah i guess so
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[11:08:02] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: Interesting, is ember a google project?
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[11:08:50] <icebox> Snugglebash: no
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[11:09:02] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, not that I know of. it has nothing to do with angular, it was just that ng-cli was built on it.
[11:09:16] <ReScO> icebox, how would you check for cheating?
[11:09:21] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, ember is one of our competitors, I guess you could say :)
[11:09:43] <icebox> ReScO: "code of honor" and "stats"
[11:10:04] <ReScO> There's no honor in this school
[11:10:15] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: Do you have some relation to Angular development?
[11:10:32] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, none, I´m just a user
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[11:11:03] <icebox> ReScO: that is a problem... anyway cheating detection depends on the app and the context
[11:11:27] <ReScO> I'm guessing the only "real" way to check for cheating is keeping an eye on window size and focus state, as well as internet connectivity
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[11:11:52] <ReScO> And somehow i'd need to disable the browser's dev tools...
[11:11:56] <FatNoLife> ReScO what school do you go to?
[11:12:32] <ReScO> IT
[11:12:46] <Snugglebash> Pyrrhus666: Ah right, I always wonder if any of the angular dev guys hang out in here!
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[11:12:54] <ReScO> But i've got more knowledge about programming and crap than the 3rd year students, it's horrifying.
[11:13:28] <ReScO> But eh, 22yrs old, classmates are ~17, and i've been meddling in development since I was like, 10-11 years old
[11:13:30] <icebox> Snugglebash: sometimes they are here... some people are contributors... the most are users
[11:13:31] <ReScO> QBasic <3
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[11:15:29] <Pyrrhus666> Snugglebash, I´ve seen some, but that was long ago
[11:15:58] <ReScO> The things i'm struggling with are mainly my native language, planning and creating plans and whatnot, programming isn't what i'm on this school for, more for the side stuff.
[11:16:10] <ReScO> And the damn paper at the end so I can FINALLY get a job
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[11:16:30] <ReScO> Got turned down every time i applied for a job, because i don't have the paper for it :|
[11:16:48] <FatNoLife> yeah that sucks
[11:17:05] <FatNoLife> i'm doing a course while i work so i can get properly paid for my level of expertise
[11:17:48] <FatNoLife> why don't you do a course over the internet or something?
[11:18:03] <FatNoLife> or would it be not enough?
[11:18:12] <ReScO> Because indeed, it isn't enough
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[11:18:33] <ReScO> After this 3yr course i'd have to do a 6yr course on a higher skill level, and then start specializing
[11:19:00] <ReScO> Point is, i've already specialized myself and am now expanding my skillset, i've developed in PHP for YEARS :|
[11:19:12] <rand0m_> You're here too FatNoLife ?
[11:19:27] <rand0m_> Didnt you get banned from JavaScript ?
[11:19:53] <FatNoLife> yeah
[11:20:01] <FatNoLife> its on +i atm
[11:20:05] <FatNoLife> i'm probably unbanned
[11:20:32] <rand0m_> Nice
[11:20:32] <TyrfingMjolnir> Anyone got an example of rxjs listening to the keyboard?
[11:21:07] <FatNoLife> who is rxjs and how did he get so close to my keyboard?
[11:21:24] <rand0m_> I actually spoke with Chan op about unbanning xin (the other guy)
[11:21:59] <rand0m_> Apparently he was warning Chan op about me 😐
[11:21:59] <icebox> rand0m_: due to zero kline?
[11:22:08] <rand0m_> No
[11:22:08] <rand0m_> Wait
[11:22:23] <rand0m_> I have that?
[11:22:48] <icebox> rand0m_: no idea
[11:22:59] <rand0m_> Lol no
[11:23:05] <FatNoLife> any idea why they have mode +i set on #javascript rand0m_?
[11:23:07] <rand0m_> These two were causing havoc yesterday
[11:23:11] <ReScO> * ##javascript: *!*FatNoLife at * dot w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr on Thu Feb 2 16:56:42 2017 by gkatsev!~gkatsev@oftn/oswg-board/gkatsev
[11:23:14] <rand0m_> No clue mate
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[11:23:30] <zomg> FatNoLife: probably to stop so many trolls from showing up
[11:23:30] <ReScO> FatNoLife, it's ##javascript, not #javascript
[11:23:42] <zomg> oh, you were actually talking about # not ##
[11:23:45] <zomg> yeah who knows
[11:23:46] <zomg> :P
[11:23:47] <FatNoLife> hahahaha
[11:23:50] <FatNoLife> i am still banned
[11:23:53] <ReScO> yep.
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[11:24:00] <selckin> you're banned from #java, maybe take a hint
[11:24:00] <ReScO> since yesterday?
[11:24:08] <FatNoLife> i'm on #java atm
[11:24:13] <zomg> 17:56 < FatNoLife> and i am full of sea-men
[11:24:16] <zomg> mmmmyeah
[11:24:23] <zomg> shortly after b&'d
[11:24:23] <rand0m_> Lol
[11:24:26] <FatNoLife> i was saying i was a ship
[11:24:29] <rand0m_> Brb
[11:24:55] <ReScO> Nearly got B&'d from ##design by giving my opinion on MacBooks :|
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[11:25:25] <zomg> I guess it was the whole thing about how he was talking like a horny teenager the entire time he was on the channel that got him banned
[11:25:26] <ReScO> Overpriced devices with old hardware in a "nice" shell with a custom distro on it, and it's not upgradeable.
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[11:25:48] <ReScO> That kind of mindset nearly got me banned because i'd be flaming or something, or instigating trouble
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[11:25:55] <zomg> ReScO: you can literally say that about any laptop, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:26:03] <rand0m_> Lol resco
[11:26:05] <zomg> and yes it sounds like the typical anti-mac troll comment
[11:26:11] <zomg> so I'm not surprised
[11:26:22] <zomg> especially on a popular channel where it could be a common thing for idiots to try
[11:26:46] <rand0m_> 'macfags' as they're called online are totally anal about critique against anything Mac related
[11:26:49] <FatNoLife> guys seriously... i've been to rooms where saying stuff like that would be considered normal behaviour
[11:26:59] <FatNoLife> like #atheism on icq.net
[11:27:05] <zomg> icq.net
[11:27:08] <FatNoLife> ah, those were the days
[11:27:09] <zomg> is anything about that normal?
[11:27:16] <FatNoLife> not really
[11:27:26] <ReScO> Eh, They might've thought i was trolling since i asked things about Material Design before that :| and rand0m_ one of the &/@'s was a mac fanatic, guess who warned me to quit it and allowed positive Apple comments to continue...
[11:28:03] <zomg> regardless of the potentially dated hardware, it's hard to come by a laptop that actually works as well as macs do
[11:28:16] <ReScO> Apparently you shouldn't talk about making websites using Material Design, Material Design = Not for websites apparently.
[11:28:18] <zomg> good luck installing linux on a laptop without having to spend ages on getting everything working properly :P
[11:28:29] <rand0m_> Did you know that apple as a brand lost #1spot to Google
[11:28:36] <ReScO> zomg, took me less than an hour and it worked perfectly, zomg
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[11:28:48] <selckin> everything worked out of the box on my laptop, less trouble on linux then windows even (which needed a bunch of downloaded drivers)
[11:28:49] <icebox> zomg: well... dell sells xps with ubuntu preinstalled :)
[11:28:49] <rand0m_> zomg not everyone uses Kali or arch
[11:28:52] <zomg> congratulations for being the exception to the rule then I guess =)
[11:29:10] <ReScO> =] and windows runs just fine on my laptop
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[11:29:11] <rand0m_> There's *buntu or side for non hardcore users
[11:29:17] <zomg> icebox: considering they don't even sell Dell here, I'm not sure if that counts
[11:29:18] <FatNoLife> just because it worked out of the box doesnt mean it works better in the long run
[11:29:18] <icebox> zomg: generally speaking, agreed
[11:29:26] <rand0m_> Suse*
[11:29:36] <ReScO> SEWSE
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[11:29:48] <ReScO> Elementary OS, YAD...
[11:30:03] <rand0m_> Suse and Asus have the strangest names
[11:30:04] <FatNoLife> in my opinion : apple is mostly used by graphic designers and people who dont want to deal with technicalities
[11:30:07] <zomg> but sure, if you do get a laptop which is known to work well with a certain linux variation, it'll probably be ok
[11:30:17] <ReScO> YAD as in, Yet Another Distro, they keep popping up like JS libraries these days
[11:30:19] <zomg> but there are many which use some wlan chip or such which may not be so well supported as others
[11:30:23] <rand0m_> I've tried elementary it was nice
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[11:30:39] <zomg> and for example if you were to buy Dell.. well, Dell isn't exactly cheap
[11:30:39] <ReScO> zomg, not so much anymore, that's like, years old that it was that much of a trouble.
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[11:30:48] <rand0m_> The moment I realised I cannot use desktop to place icons Informatted my system
[11:31:15] <ReScO> These days you basically install it and it works, there's a huge ass driver bundle included in any base installation, at least, in popular distros like Ubuntu and stuff
[11:31:20] <rand0m_> You'll have to excuse my silly spellings. It's my autocorrect o. Phone.
[11:31:27] <rand0m_> ffs
[11:31:41] <zomg> well with wlan drivers they still don't have packet injection support on almost any chip
[11:31:42] <ReScO> np man, install Hacker's keyboard if you just wanna type :P
[11:31:47] <zomg> except certain fairly specific ones
[11:31:48] <zomg> :D
[11:31:50] <ReScO> zomg, that's not true.
[11:32:09] <zomg> I dunno, unless things radically changed in the past two or three years, then I guess
[11:32:29] <ReScO> It did.
[11:32:34] <zomg> I bought my wlan dongle specifically so I could do that, and the list was fairly short and specific on what was supported
[11:32:38] <ReScO> Hah
[11:32:39] <rand0m_> zomg strangely did you know that there are several wlan chipsets only work with particular branded motherboards?
[11:32:45] <ReScO> Did that years ago.
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[11:33:55] <rand0m_> Like if you wanted to add a wi-fi chipsets to your HP laptop you cannot go and buy any card you'll only have to buy the ones which is made for hp
[11:34:02] <rand0m_> Silly
[11:34:09] <ReScO> FML, my school's internet is true pure evil flaming shit... https://i.imgur.com/TdNOvHQ.png
[11:34:21] <ReScO> rand0m_, wuuut
[11:34:56] <rand0m_> Yep I'm not kidding
[11:35:53] <ReScO> Oh wait, you mean apple hardware in 2013. XD
[11:36:07] <ReScO> Proprietary RAM sticks, 300$ for like, 2gb?
[11:36:42] <rand0m_> You cannot go and buy generic realtek, Intel qualcomm, or broadcom chipsets they won't work
[11:37:14] <rand0m_> Regular hardware for regular laptops
[11:37:25] <rand0m_> Not apple
[11:38:41] <FatNoLife> my ex had an apple laptop from 2014 i think and had an extra stick of ram installed, cost her 60$ i think
[11:39:00] <FatNoLife> she went up from 32mb to 64
[11:39:01] <FatNoLife> xD
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[11:39:19] <FatNoLife> just kidding she went up to like 8gb instead of 4
[11:39:50] <rand0m_> Hay icebox will you be here in 45 mins?
[11:39:59] <rand0m_> Or do you have any meetings
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[11:40:15] <rand0m_> I need some help with components
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[11:40:42] <icebox> rand0m_: sure... about in two hours... in a few minutes I am off for a break
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[11:41:07] <rand0m_> Perfect
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[11:41:25] <icebox> rand0m_: ping me later
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[11:43:03] <thegodofangular> good morning my students
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[11:44:36] <FatNoLife> all hail
[11:44:39] * FatNoLife bows
[11:45:11] <Pyrrhus666> pepa ?
[11:45:25] <Pyrrhus666> pepa !
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[12:12:44] <Arter> hi to everyone... can someone help me
[12:12:47] <Arter> -1 down vote favorite I need to make time picker, filled with numbers that I get from the backend. For example, the backend sent to me the time ranges when the product can light up, meaning initial value and how long can light up. Example, backend sends to the start time 17 hours, and the maximum range 3 hours. In first picker we select 17 and in second time picker choose the ultimate value of which shall not be less than the sele
[12:13:09] <Arter> With provided that if the chosen start time of 22:00, and the range is 4 hours, timepicker after 24:00 must switch to 01:00. And after the selection, send the selected value on the backend. I tried to ui.bootstrap.timepicker, but I do not know how to set up custom values, and that after a 24 hour shift counter to the 01:00, I hope you understand, thank you
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[12:19:56] <thegodofangular> can somebooooooooooooooody help with this? https://plnkr.co/edit/n5ZPCgCFGJabwLYM4YDY?p=preview
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[12:24:20] <coder_2014> hello, whats the nodejs channel? seems that I need invite to access
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[12:24:47] <coder_2014> got it thanks
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[12:26:24] <thegodofangular> halu?
[12:26:27] <thegodofangular> sambudi?
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[12:36:50] <thegodofangular> sambuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudiiii
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[12:40:26] <FatNoLife> derp
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[12:45:06] <RameshSB> Hi
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[12:53:50] <rand0m> hay
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[12:57:47] <Pyrrhus666> pepa, what´s the question ? plunk works, right ?
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[13:05:01] <rand0m> pepa the pig?
[13:05:17] <rand0m> icebox you here?
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[13:06:08] <FatNoLife> lol someone asked what was the best ide for java, i answered ms paint xD
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[13:06:31] <selckin> hilarious, conan obrien will have you on tomorro
[13:06:44] <FatNoLife> I KNEW THIS DAY WOULD COME
[13:07:07] <sadme> hi, silly question - what's the 'proper' way to use rxjs in an angular2 project? I'd like to avoid the whole of rxjs being in my output file! At the moment I'm doing what my IDE suggested (import {Observable} from 'rxjs') which is resulting in the whole of rx being in my output
[13:07:12] * rand0m claps for selckin
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[13:09:17] <Pyrrhus666> sadme, afaik importing just the stuff you need is the proper way. then later on, with specific techniques like treeshaking stuff that´s not used should disappear from your build.
[13:09:26] <rand0m> Pyrrhus666, can you help me with something?
[13:09:40] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, dunno, I can try ;)
[13:10:00] <rand0m> I don't have a plnk of this, but I have a git
[13:10:23] <sadme> Pyrrhus666: that's what I thought too, oh well, thanks.
[13:10:25] <rand0m> I have these components: https://github.com/ypk/bmaf/tree/master/src/app/components
[13:10:40] <rand0m> currently I am focused on Home
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[13:11:02] <rand0m> home.html uses 2 components within itself
[13:11:08] <rand0m> Navbar and MainFooter
[13:11:18] <rand0m> strangey only navbar works
[13:11:24] <rand0m> and MainFooter doesnt
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[13:11:46] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, could this be due to camelcasing ?
[13:12:00] <rand0m> does angular also have the strange rule that components should be under a root?
[13:12:27] <rand0m> this is my main footer: https://github.com/ypk/bmaf/blob/master/src/app/common/main-footer/main-footer.js
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[13:12:29] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, not that I know of.
[13:12:44] <rand0m> whats the rule on writing component name?
[13:12:48] <rand0m> are - legal?
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[13:12:55] <rand0m> module and component names
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[13:13:50] <Pyrrhus666> I must admit I´m not sure about this in ng2. in ng1, there was the weird <camelCase> -> camel-case.js thing...
[13:14:10] <rand0m> this is ng1 :/
[13:14:27] <Pyrrhus666> you could try refactoring to <Mainfooter> -> mainfooter.js to check
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[13:14:33] <Pyrrhus666> ah ok :)
[13:14:36] <rand0m> I did
[13:14:40] <rand0m> nothing
[13:14:43] <Pyrrhus666> hmm.
[13:14:44] <icebox> rand0m: back
[13:14:48] <rand0m> wb icebox
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[13:14:58] <Pyrrhus666> the expert has arrived :)
[13:15:21] <icebox> rand0m: reading above
[13:15:46] <rand0m> ok ok wait
[13:15:48] <rand0m> nice
[13:15:55] <rand0m> I see some progress
[13:16:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> Anyone got a good rxjs example for listening to the client's keyboard?
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[13:16:09] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, are those other components not in the git ?
[13:16:15] <rand0m> which one?
[13:16:18] <rand0m> everything is in git
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[13:16:44] <Pyrrhus666> oops, missed the parent dirs :)
[13:17:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> My guess is I only need to know what to listen to
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[13:17:33] <rand0m> LMFAO
[13:17:36] <rand0m> I resolved it
[13:17:45] <rand0m> its related to camelcasing and -
[13:17:48] <rand0m> stupid me
[13:18:00] <Pyrrhus666> ah, my inkling was right :)
[13:18:16] <icebox> rand0m: ok :)
[13:18:18] <Pyrrhus666> I always try to avoid it :)
[13:18:35] <rand0m> but how do I use AbcDef ?
[13:18:46] <rand0m> should they always be resolved to Abc-Def?
[13:19:47] <rand0m> Pyrrhus666, https://medium.com/@cironunesdev/angularjs-how-to-name-directives-118ac44b81d4
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[13:22:24] <icebox> rand0m: AbcDef -> Abc-def, better abcDef -> abc-def
[13:22:37] <rand0m> oh
[13:22:45] <rand0m> the Def becomes def?
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[13:23:13] <icebox> rand0m: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/directive - Normalization
[13:23:28] <icebox> rand0m: correct, no typos
[13:23:34] <rand0m> <PrimaryFooter> -> Primary-footer
[13:23:38] <rand0m> doesnt work :/
[13:24:16] <icebox> rand0m: ah... nice
[13:24:31] <icebox> rand0m: what is the name of the component?
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[13:24:44] <rand0m> PrimaryFooter
[13:24:55] <icebox> rand0m: .component('appSidebar'... <app-sidebar>
[13:25:05] <rand0m> but what id you need
[13:25:08] <rand0m> <AppSidebar>
[13:25:19] <rand0m> App-sidebar doesnt work :/
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[13:25:37] <icebox> rand0m: what is the name in ".component"!?!?
[13:25:40] <rand0m> .component('App-sidebar'... <AppSidebar>
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[13:25:55] <rand0m> .component('Primary-footer'
[13:27:00] <icebox> rand0m: that is super confusing... don't choice those name... .component("appSidebar") or .component("primaryFooter")
[13:27:09] <Pyrrhus666> LOWERCASE ALL THE THINGS !
[13:27:13] <Pyrrhus666> oops.
[13:27:28] <rand0m> but I want to capitalcase all the things
[13:27:29] <icebox> rand0m: anyway... Strip x- and data- from the front of the element/attributes. Convert the :, -, or _-delimited name to camelCase.
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[13:27:43] <rand0m> CapitalCase
[13:27:48] <rand0m> no camelCase
[13:27:56] <icebox> rand0m: the logic is camelCase!
[13:28:01] <rand0m> oic :(
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[13:28:07] <icebox> rand0m: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/directive - Normalization
[13:28:11] <rand0m> yeah reading that
[13:28:52] <icebox> rand0m: I would not spend a minute trying to tweak that logic
[13:28:56] <rand0m> > We typically refer to directives by their case-sensitive camelCase normalized name (
[13:29:07] <rand0m> makes sense now
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[13:29:16] <rand0m> I was going against the standard
[13:29:19] <rand0m> I REBELLED
[13:29:24] <rand0m> I was shown my place
[13:29:28] <icebox> rand0m: it is ok :)
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[13:35:17] <Pyrrhus666> we should just ditch case. another 26 entries freed from ascii...
[13:35:33] <icebox> :P
[13:35:58] <rand0m> lol
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[13:42:08] <angrybacon> On a directive myfoo, scope = {a: 'a'}. How can I have access to myfoo's scope here <myfoo something="{{ a }}">? Is that even possible
[13:42:14] <rand0m> I've used .component('main-footer', ... <main-footer>
[13:42:16] <rand0m> and it fails :/
[13:42:54] <Pyrrhus666> .component('mainFooter', ... <main-footer> ?
[13:43:01] <icebox> ^
[13:43:10] <Pyrrhus666> annoying, innit ? ;)
[13:43:11] <rand0m> arrgghh this is confusing
[13:43:12] <rand0m> yeah
[13:43:35] <Pyrrhus666> ditch the dash :P
[13:43:48] <rand0m> then it becomes strange
[13:43:59] <rand0m> mycomponenttoaddtwoplustwo
[13:44:00] <rand0m> lol
[13:44:07] <icebox> rand0m: :P
[13:44:25] <Pyrrhus666> I see no problem whatsoever;)
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[13:45:31] <rand0m> angrybacon, maybe this will help: https://thinkster.io/a-better-way-to-learn-angularjs/directive-to-directive-communication
[13:45:40] <Pyrrhus666> also, myComponentToAddTwoPlusTwo also sucks.
[13:45:51] <rand0m> so to use a directive I can have camelcase and hyphens
[13:46:11] <rand0m> i.e, <twoCents> or <two-cents>
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[13:46:24] <rand0m> but to define a directive I should have camelcase ?
[13:46:37] <rand0m> .component('twoCents') ?
[13:46:57] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, no ! html is case-insensitive.
[13:47:19] <rand0m> so i can have twocents or twoCents
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[13:47:34] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, no ! html is case-insensitive.
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[13:47:38] <rand0m> :S
[13:48:02] <Pyrrhus666> TwoCents == twocents == TWOCENTS == tWOcENTS
[13:48:07] <Pyrrhus666> in html
[13:48:22] <angrybacon> rand0m Basically that http://codepen.io/angrybacon/pen/egreBw?editors=1011
[13:48:24] <Pyrrhus666> hence : case in js -> dash in html
[13:48:36] <Pyrrhus666> _not_ the other way around...
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[13:48:47] <rand0m> oh
[13:49:17] <rand0m> so if I have .component("saltyTears") my component would be <salty-tears>?
[13:49:26] <Pyrrhus666> YeS !
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[13:49:39] <icebox> rand0m: yEs!
[13:49:41] <rand0m> what about if I want <Salty-Tears>?
[13:49:48] <icebox> rand0m: asking for troubles :)
[13:49:49] <rand0m> or even <SaltyTears>?
[13:49:51] <Pyrrhus666> that´s equal
[13:49:51] <rand0m> lol
[13:49:52] <rand0m> haha
[13:50:00] <rand0m> ok
[13:50:20] <rand0m> <salty-tears> === <Salty-Tears>
[13:50:21] <Pyrrhus666> salty-tears === SaltY-TeArS !== SaltyTears
[13:50:21] <icebox> rand0m: I mean... the question is legit and we should give a look at the source coude or debugging it... but why? :)
[13:50:22] <rand0m> makes sense
[13:51:21] <Pyrrhus666> rand0m, imho, all lower-case html is a good practice anyway.
[13:51:46] <Pyrrhus666> (or lowerCase, if you insist)
[13:52:27] <rand0m> changed, commited, and done
[13:52:28] <rand0m> :)
[13:52:42] <rand0m> and now to the second part of my question
[13:52:54] <rand0m> I was working on something like this: http://plnkr.co/edit/4r9zibYHGvjwNgUL33ks?p=preview
[13:53:39] <rand0m> as you can see in script.js the bar and baz work fine
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[13:54:27] <rand0m> i've applied the same logic to my navbar component and nav-header and top-header components
[13:54:29] <rand0m> here: https://github.com/ypk/bmaf/tree/master/src/app/common
[13:54:40] <rand0m> and it doesn't seem to behave right
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[13:56:46] <angrybacon> Is there any way to make one of these 2 ngClick work from the parent element: http://codepen.io/angrybacon/pen/egreBw?editors=1011? This is to be used on uibTypeahead's typeahead-on-select
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[14:00:41] <icebox> rand0m: be aware about this.fooData = res
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[14:01:44] <icebox> rand0m: "it doesn't work" means template is not updated?
[14:01:56] <rand0m> one moment icebox
[14:01:59] <rand0m> i am on call :)
[14:02:06] <icebox> rand0m: no problem
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[14:04:39] <FatNoLife> well guys, i have arrived at the conclusion that the guy who's responsable for giving me something to do has nothing he can give me to do so...
[14:04:58] <FatNoLife> he gave me a task thats nearly impossible and just lets me go on irc all day
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[14:08:27] <FatNoLife> did irc.icq.net get shut down?
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[14:09:47] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: why icq is not whatsapp?
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[14:13:16] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, no idea. why isn´t everything just XMPP ?
[14:13:32] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: was icq acquired?
[14:14:18] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, it´s still called ¨ICQ LLC¨, for what it´s worth...
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[14:14:33] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep, I see... weirdly
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[14:17:35] <FatNoLife> seems that the irc servers were taken off
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[14:17:42] <FatNoLife> damn i used them so much when i was younger
[14:17:48] <FatNoLife> lots of trolling
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[14:17:52] <FatNoLife> good times
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[14:18:43] <rand0m> back
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[14:20:00] <FatNoLife> wb rand0m
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[14:20:11] <rand0m> thanks man
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[14:20:32] <FatNoLife> i just didnt want to leave you hanging when you said "back"
[14:20:47] * FatNoLife awkwardly shrugs
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[14:21:10] <FatNoLife> can you stop with the chan hops Snugglebash?
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[14:21:40] <rand0m> lol
[14:21:48] <rand0m> bacon guy
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[14:21:51] <rand0m> angrybacon
[14:21:54] <rand0m> here: http://plnkr.co/edit/p1spYvkoYE19zEd5Jtif
[14:21:58] <rand0m> maybe that will help?
[14:22:23] <angrybacon> Nope
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[14:22:43] <angrybacon> I need that submit() on <foo>
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[14:23:31] <rand0m> oh
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[14:32:29] <rand0m> angrybacon,
[14:32:30] <rand0m> http://plnkr.co/edit/p1spYvkoYE19zEd5Jtif?p=preview
[14:32:31] <rand0m> ??
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[14:33:38] <angrybacon> that doesn't work does it?
[14:34:05] <rand0m> :S
[14:34:11] <rand0m> it works
[14:34:24] <rand0m> i mean it automatically consoles
[14:34:46] <rand0m> change consoleme to alergtme
[14:34:47] <rand0m> alertme
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[14:35:14] <angrybacon> Yeah saw that too late
[14:35:27] <angrybacon> will see how I can use your approach with my code
[14:35:30] <angrybacon> Thanks a lot
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[14:36:08] <rand0m> tbh i didnt know how to do that 15 mins ago
[14:36:13] <rand0m> i learnt from here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16881478/how-to-call-a-method-defined-in-an-angularjs-directive
[14:36:21] <rand0m> and https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/controller
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[14:37:27] <angrybacon> rand0m Thing is your attribute consoleme is typeahead-on-select for me
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[14:37:40] <angrybacon> Which I can't exactly replace
[14:37:42] <elisman> hi
[14:37:45] <rand0m> I dont know what that means :s
[14:37:52] <angrybacon> Sorry control
[14:37:52] <rand0m> oh
[14:37:54] <angrybacon> not consoleme
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[14:38:06] <rand0m> ok?
[14:38:07] <rand0m> and
[14:39:02] <angrybacon> Dunno yet, trying to apply in my case
[14:39:03] <elisman> Please am new to angular and I want to know how effective it is since though there are a whole lot of other technologies so kindly enlighting me on that
[14:39:25] <icebox> elisman: how many hours you have?
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[14:39:53] <elisman> well am having more that two to four hours please
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[14:40:09] <icebox> elisman: perfect... firstly you may read the official docs
[14:40:30] <rand0m> what would happen after 4 hours?
[14:40:38] <elisman> icebox: i will
[14:41:01] <Snugglebash> FatNoLife: I am not doing anything client i guess is crap
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[14:41:37] <rand0m> HAY angrybacon
[14:41:40] <rand0m> http://plnkr.co/edit/p1spYvkoYE19zEd5Jtif?p=preview
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[14:42:00] <rand0m> Snugglebash, which client??
[14:42:15] <Snugglebash> rand0m: Textual
[14:42:21] <rand0m> mac?
[14:42:37] <Snugglebash> rand0m: yeah
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[14:43:41] <FatNoLife> ah theres your problem
[14:43:46] <FatNoLife> you're on a mac
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[14:44:20] <rand0m> may I suggest https://www.irccloud.com/ Snugglebash
[14:44:47] <Snugglebash> rand0m: will have a look thanks.
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[14:45:04] <rand0m> not sure if it works on your laptop/pc
[14:45:12] <rand0m> but give it a try
[14:45:27] <angrybacon> Snugglebash You must have some set something to leave on afk or something
[14:45:29] <angrybacon> Never had an issue with Textual
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[14:46:35] <rand0m> oh wait hex chat is on ios too
[14:46:42] <rand0m> try hexchat:https://hexchat.github.io/ Snugglebash
[14:46:51] <Pyrrhus666> hexchat ftw !
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[14:47:41] <rand0m> hexchat \o/ woooooo
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[14:48:56] <Pyrrhus666> I suggest their slogan should be ¨ugly as hell, functional as f*ck¨
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[14:50:00] <rand0m> lol
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[14:52:53] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: OT - http://2x-1.net/ob/gray1/
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[14:55:35] <shums> I am looking to develop crud apps
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[14:56:00] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, sounds fascinating. reading :)
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[14:57:53] <shums> I have fully integrated accounting system developed in vb6 want to convert to web apps
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[15:03:14] <rand0m> hay icebox
[15:03:30] <rand0m> > rand0m: "it doesn't work" means template is not updated?
[15:03:37] <icebox> rand0m: ?
[15:03:44] <rand0m> continuing our conversation from earlier
[15:03:48] <icebox> rand0m: sure
[15:03:52] <rand0m> what I am hoping to do is
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[15:04:12] <rand0m> in my constructor i am fetching content and assigning it to this.headerData
[15:04:16] <rand0m> and in my template
[15:04:24] <rand0m> i have 2 components
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[15:04:33] <icebox> rand0m: be aware... this.fooData = res; // usually this breaks the reference
[15:04:44] <rand0m> why so?
[15:04:50] <rand0m> I am using => no?
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[15:05:10] <icebox> rand0m: angular.extend(this.fooData, res);
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[15:05:31] <icebox> rand0m: Two way data binding pitfalls http://plnkr.co/edit/7anGLMoJZgMkJFX9d9IA?p=preview
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[15:05:51] <rand0m> ok i've updated it to use ng.extend
[15:06:06] <rand0m> so this should work <TopHeader top-data="$ctrl.headerData"></TopHeader>
[15:06:07] <rand0m> ?
[15:06:27] <rand0m> wait
[15:06:28] <rand0m> mybad
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[15:09:50] <rand0m> ok, my components work fine
[15:09:59] <rand0m> but i cant pass data through my
[15:10:12] <icebox> rand0m: ok
[15:10:22] <icebox> rand0m: no idea :)
[15:10:39] <icebox> rand0m: generally speaking, the code above is ok
[15:10:51] <rand0m> in my nav header component
[15:11:03] <icebox> rand0m: I suppose you have bindings like topData: ...
[15:11:03] <rand0m> i have bindings: { navData: '<' },
[15:11:16] <icebox> rand0m: yep... it seems ok
[15:11:20] <rand0m> and <nav-header nav-data="$ctrl.headerData"></nav-header>
[15:11:39] <rand0m> and in nav header controller
[15:11:47] <rand0m> I am trying to access it using console.log(this.navData);
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[15:12:11] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I can sort of grasp what they are doing with that ROM-based comp, but not all of it. still fascinating though :)
[15:12:12] <icebox> rand0m: 1.6.1?
[15:12:22] <rand0m> yeah
[15:12:23] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: really... great stuff
[15:12:31] <icebox> rand0m: ah... I know :) breaking change
[15:12:37] <rand0m> ???
[15:12:40] <icebox> rand0m: use $onInit
[15:12:47] <rand0m> why :o
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[15:13:22] <rand0m> I get blank object
[15:13:24] <icebox> rand0m: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#breaking-changes
[15:14:13] <icebox> rand0m: put that logic in this.$onInit = function() {... here ...}
[15:14:28] <rand0m> yeah
[15:14:29] <rand0m> did that
[15:14:37] <rand0m> but i get blank object
[15:14:41] <icebox> rand0m: ah
[15:15:06] <icebox> rand0m: is the input ok?
[15:15:18] <rand0m> what input?
[15:15:23] <rand0m> i belive so
[15:15:29] <icebox> rand0m: $ctrl.headerData
[15:15:48] <icebox> rand0m: I believe is not enough... debug debug debug :)
[15:15:50] <rand0m> $ctrl.headerData
[15:15:51] <rand0m> yeah
[15:15:55] <rand0m> ok ok
[15:15:56] <rand0m> brb
[15:16:46] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, reminds me of this (probably seen it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z71h9XZbAWY
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[15:17:44] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, and also this https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-_93BVApb58I3ZV67LW3S_JEMFnDrQDj
[15:17:47] <rand0m_> Brb lunch
[15:17:49] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: great :)
[15:17:57] <Pyrrhus666> (the latter is extremely interesting)
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[15:51:38] <Elarcis> phew
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[15:51:43] <Elarcis> being awesome is hard work
[15:52:01] <icebox> Elarcis: only if you get a bonus :)
[15:52:22] <Elarcis> icebox: ....
[15:52:30] * Elarcis went crying in a corner
[15:52:48] * Pyrrhus666 gives Elarcis a hug and a beer
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[15:52:51] <icebox> Elarcis: otherwise it is only a waste of time :)
[15:53:40] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, wouldn´t have thought you were like a wolf of wallstreet ;)
[15:55:10] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: :) call me Gekko
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[15:56:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: anyway The Big Short is a better movie about financial world, telling the behind the scenes of subprime crisis
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[15:58:37] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I´ll call you bill lumbergh :P (gekko always reminds me)
[15:58:47] <icebox> :P
[15:58:50] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah, still gotta watch that.
[15:59:03] <Pyrrhus666> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA
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[15:59:32] <icebox> :P
[15:59:45] <Pyrrhus666> one of my all time favourites :)
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[16:12:39] <Ragnarr> Hello, I have a question...I get data from server and I associate this value to local variable and model for ng-repeat
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[16:14:19] <Ragnarr> now when I modify this value in ng-repeat, it modify local variable
[16:14:20] <Ragnarr> why?
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[16:16:08] <rand0m> hay
[16:16:09] <Pyrrhus666> Ragnarr, what exactly do you mean by ´local variable´ ?
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[16:16:18] <therobot> whats up
[16:16:25] <Ragnarr> var pippo = data
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[16:16:38] <therobot> haha
[16:16:42] <rand0m> o_O
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[16:18:13] <Pyrrhus666> Ragnarr, still don´t get your issue. you get data from a server. assign it to pippo, and then you modify pippo in the ng-repeat ?
[16:18:36] <icebox> Ragnarr: start from here https://plnkr.co/edit/sAY6jPYjs28169GIyLDs?p=preview modify the plunker for your use case
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[16:19:42] <Pyrrhus666> Ragnarr, code would be helpful, yes :)
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[16:22:44] <docmur> If I have a date like: 2017-01-12T12:00:00 how would I format that to something more usable?
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[16:23:26] <icebox> docmur: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/filter/date
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[16:28:40] <rand0m> hay icebox, can you tell me how can I debug
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[16:29:18] <icebox> rand0m: with devtools...
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[16:29:44] <icebox> rand0m: or you may provide a minimal working plunker reproducing your use case... we may give a look at the snippet
[16:29:45] * rand0m doesnt know how in angular
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[16:30:44] <frustrator> why don't the angularjs website docs utilize the john poppa style guide?
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[16:31:29] <docmur> Thanks :)
[16:31:53] <rand0m> john poppa?
[16:31:56] <rand0m> I know carl poppa
[16:32:01] <rand0m> whos john poppa
[16:32:27] <icebox> frustrator: even if that guide shows best practices, it is an opinionated one... devs prefer a direct approach sometimes for educational purposes
[16:32:37] <Pyrrhus666> john papa.
[16:32:47] <icebox> frustrator: that's all, generally speaking... any concern?
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[16:32:51] <frustrator> https://github.com/johnpapa/angular-styleguide
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[16:34:03] <frustrator> i am trying to create a module with this script (function(){ angular.module('PortalConfig', []); })();
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[16:34:16] <frustrator> but its causing an error
[16:35:02] <rand0m> ah
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[16:35:06] <rand0m> I know john papa
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[16:35:08] <frustrator> [$injector:modulerr]
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[16:36:39] <icebox> frustrator: because it needs to match with ng-app
[16:36:45] <frustrator> i originally wrote my app where i started the module with var PortalConfig = angular.module('PortalConfig',[]); but then I thought I should apply the style guide
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[16:37:14] <icebox> frustrator: the code is ok, but you need to check ng-app... ng-app="PortalConfig" in html
[16:37:18] <angrybacon> In my directive's link, I have $compile(element.contents())(scope). The element has a ng-model in it. How do I $watch it?
[16:37:36] <frustrator> it is ng-app='PortalConfig'
[16:38:01] <rand0m> icebox is $onInit to be in used every constructor?
[16:38:27] <icebox> frustrator: nice... so you may provide a minimal working plunker reproducing your issue... link in the topic... we may give a look at it
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[16:38:45] <icebox> rand0m: you mean, instead of?
[16:38:56] <rand0m> directly inside controller
[16:39:22] <icebox> frustrator: because I tried those lines and it works correctly here
[16:39:45] <rand0m> controller() { this.$onInit = function(){ ...blah... } } instead of controller() { ...blah... }
[16:39:47] <icebox> rand0m: if you have that kind of logic, yes...
[16:41:25] <icebox> frustrator: note aside... angular.module('foo', []); // creates a module... angular.module('foo'); // gets a module
[16:41:49] <icebox> frustrator: you need to create a module only once
[16:42:23] <icebox> frustrator: anyway if you provide a plunker reproducing your use case, we may fix it :)
[16:42:37] <frustrator> @icebox thanks I did know about the create and the get. Not sure why my set up is failing on the module create
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[16:43:20] <icebox> frustrator: no idea... I tried it and it works
[16:43:27] <icebox> frustrator: no plunker, no party
[16:43:35] <frustrator> fiddle ok?
[16:43:41] <icebox> frustrator: no, for me
[16:43:56] <icebox> frustrator: template link in the topic
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[16:44:25] <icebox> frustrator: and in a few minutes I will be off :)
[16:44:37] <frustrator> ok i see it now
[16:45:03] <rand0m> is there an online IDE where I can use and host node apps
[16:45:04] <Pyrrhus666> heh. nice : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA
[16:45:12] <Pyrrhus666> nah not that link.
[16:45:20] <Pyrrhus666> this one https://github.com/Microsoft/gvfs
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[16:46:00] <icebox> rand0m: the best is now by zeit.co
[16:46:00] <rand0m> but why Pyrrhus666
[16:46:09] <rand0m> thats useless icebox
[16:46:16] <rand0m> i mean like plnkr
[16:46:20] <rand0m> where you can see code
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[16:47:16] <icebox> rand0m: ok... hyperdev
[16:48:04] <rand0m> its gomix.com now
[16:50:15] <Pyrrhus666> have a nice weekend people !
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[16:50:57] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: you too
[16:51:07] <icebox> off... bye
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[16:52:35] <fatGamer85> test
[16:52:44] <fatGamer85> stupid internet
[16:52:49] <fatGamer85> rand0m
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[16:55:30] <frustrator> @icebox you were right that it does work (https://plnkr.co/edit/ZTpoDk) but I don't understand why it doesn't work here at the office
[16:55:36] <fatGamer85> icebox left
[16:55:38] <fatGamer85> :(
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[17:16:38] <Elarcis> I am all that's left of the week staff :P
[17:16:43] <Elarcis> me and uru
[17:16:46] <Elarcis> :P
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[17:17:13] <Elarcis> me and uru and everyone else
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[17:17:16] <Elarcis> there, correct
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[17:26:12] <uru> Elarcis: Not for much longer, beers have just been handed out ;)
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[17:55:34] <bishop_> hi i've got a question, what is the best to implement openid connect in a angular2 app?
[17:55:48] <bishop_> google openid connect*
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[18:00:13] <jr3> nothing like good ole hidden circular dependeices
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[18:08:32] <jr3> are circular dependecies possible through indirect references?
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[18:08:59] <jr3> I have services that inject services that inject services
[18:09:03] <jr3> so this is interesitng
[18:10:13] <frustrator> I was thinking that [$injector:modulerr] meant that the angular.module('foo', []) was the problem, but turns out that it can be caused if any of the directives/factories/controllers fail to load
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[18:12:32] <sargentmki> jr3 off the top of my head I think angular warns you about it
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[18:22:18] <spasovski> any pointers for how to get async data in a view?
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[18:24:05] <WhatTheDilly> $http.get ?
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[18:24:26] <frustrator> and finally I traced the error to a bad directive
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[18:37:05] <rand0m> ola
[18:37:21] <rand0m> ayuda me
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[18:42:04] <dopry> identify 2960aa
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[18:45:14] <rand0m> his/her identity is unknown
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[18:45:58] <rand0m> this chat is dead :(
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[18:46:28] <rand0m> psh
[18:46:32] <rand0m> do something funny
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[19:04:44] <ycon__> Anyone else unable to login to gitter.im?
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[19:06:06] <ycon__> Or have they blocked my IP??
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[19:09:31] <zomg> ycon__: if you weren't being a little shit on gitter, it's probably just a temporary issue :p
[19:09:47] <zomg> but the fact you even have to ask if they blocked you is a bit concerning
[19:09:48] <zomg> lol
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[19:12:11] <dopry> I mean it's gitter, they're just down all the time.
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[19:12:28] <dopry> or at least that is how it seems of late.
[19:12:41] <WhatTheDilly> i feel like linked in blocks me
[19:12:51] <WhatTheDilly> but i don't know why, i visit it like once or twice a month
[19:12:56] <WhatTheDilly> usually beacuse they want me to
[19:13:06] <WhatTheDilly> but then i click the linked in link and it just hangs there loading forever and ever.. but never timing out
[19:13:12] <WhatTheDilly> can come back 20 minutes later and it's still "loading"
[19:14:17] <WhatTheDilly> the funny thing is
[19:14:23] <WhatTheDilly> doing a telnet to it works fine
[19:14:27] <dopry> Any one looking for work? https://authenticjobs.com/jobs/28636/developers-wanted-angular-2-sass
[19:14:46] <ngNoobie> hello. i am having trouble with Basic Authentication using $resource. http://pastebin.com/0PXK3mPs Would someone be willing to have a look and see what i am doing wrong?
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[19:22:45] <aiglesias> hey all
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[19:27:35] <aiglesias> question about Angular 1: I have a component that at some point $compiles and appends an HTML to its DOM element. Such $compiled HTML uses expression from values passed as bindings to the component (one-way bindings: `>`). I've noticed that when the $compiling is done the first time, the values are correct, but whenever the input data (binding objects) change, the data is not updated. Do I have to manually setup a $w
[19:27:35] <aiglesias> atcher for checking updates in the bindings? Isn't that done by the link process?
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[21:03:13] <aiglesias> does anybody have a clue on what I asked?
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[21:06:13] <rand0m_> aiglesias: the angular gurus are not here to help 😔
[21:06:22] <WhatTheDilly> It's Friday
[21:06:24] <WhatTheDilly> go out and get drunk
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[21:07:31] <aiglesias> WhatTheDilly: is that the best I can expect from a Friday? :)
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[21:08:54] <rand0m_> They're at home and only come to chat during weekdays
[21:09:03] <rand0m_> I think so
[21:09:24] <rand0m_> I'm on a mobile and it's raining cats and dogs here
[21:09:32] <rand0m_> So can't really help now
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[21:29:47] <aiglesias> I see
[21:29:57] <aiglesias> it's a weekday for me :)
[21:30:20] <aiglesias> I guess most of you are on an eastern timezone
[21:30:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> Anyone got a good rxjs example for listening to the client's keyboard? I would like to make Tetris
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[21:36:36] <Angugus> hi, excuse me, can i have your opinion about this error message : "Argument of type '(params: Params) => Event' is not assignable to parameter of type '(value: Params, index: number) => ObservableInput<Params, {}"
[21:36:52] <Angugus> my switchMap is wrong but i really don't understand why
[21:37:18] <Angugus> here it is : switchMap((params: Params) => this.eventService.getEvent(+params['id']))
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[21:37:53] <Angugus> i don't understand the error
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[21:45:35] <Angugus> no one ? please ? :/
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[21:54:41] <phaete> hi guys!
[21:55:01] <phaete> can anyone help me please? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42027098/pagination-dont-work-correctly-when-i-filter-the-result
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[22:35:35] <rand0m> hello
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[22:43:08] <baseer_> hi
[22:43:19] <baseer_> i am using angular 1.3
[22:43:43] <baseer_> to create this website https://www.berzgallery.com/
[22:43:58] <baseer_> but when i look at the search results in google: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=berzgallery
[22:44:01] <baseer_> i see angular code
[22:44:23] <baseer_> i was wondering, does google actually support parsing of angular sites?
[22:44:32] <baseer_> or do i have to use something like prerender.io?
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[22:46:21] <rand0m> I've read that google reads angular
[22:46:24] <rand0m> sites
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[23:14:03] <aiglesias> have a good weekend everyone
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[23:17:54] <Syco54645> rand0m, it 100% does not. if you look at those search results there is angular in them
[23:18:09] <rand0m> oic
[23:18:23] <Syco54645> rand0m, we have also read that google reads angular but i have yet to experience them actually doing it
[23:18:30] <rand0m> ah
[23:18:37] <rand0m> so its work in progress
[23:18:51] <Syco54645> do you know of a workable solution for now?
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[23:20:47] <rand0m> nope
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[23:37:16] <Nasp> A workable solution is to render it server side when being visited by crawlers, which most people do
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[23:47:32] <Syco54645> Nasp, so something like prerender.io
[23:48:07] <Nasp> Yes
[23:48:18] <Syco54645> Nasp, any that you can recommend?
[23:48:29] <Nasp> Nope
[23:48:40] <Nasp> I only do ng2
[23:48:50] <Nasp> Where there is support for it
[23:48:52] <Syco54645> is this a nonissue in ng2?
[23:48:55] <Syco54645> ah ok
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[23:50:24] <Nasp> ng2 has angular universal
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[23:57:04] <rand0m> hey can anyone help me trying to figure out whats happening with my code?
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