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[00:31:00] <Aliks> PixelSynox: found the issue actually... some side effect of setting notify: false on the previous page
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[00:34:12] <BigPoppa> Hi. Does my new cloak make me look fat ? :D
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[00:39:19] <G1eb> BigPoppa yes
[00:39:38] <BigPoppa> G1eb, good! everyone likes a big booty
[00:39:49] <G1eb> haha ;')
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[01:08:21] <mylord> mangle / uglify.. how do we do it?
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[01:16:38] <Radar> I'm getting this error: Error: [$compile:tpload] http://errors.angularjs.org/1.2.22/$compile/tpload?p0=responsive_menu%2Ftemplates%2Fresponsive_menu.html
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[01:16:57] <Radar> Where does Angular look for templates? Is there some path list that I can view to know where it's looking?
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[01:58:29] <Aliks> So, back to my question from earlier today...
[01:59:16] <Aliks> I found out that using $state.go(state, params, { notify: false }) causes future page navigations to keep the same URL parameters as were set for this $state.go
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[03:09:57] <mylord> mangle / uglify.. how do we do it?
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[03:22:12] <zquad> any recommendation on an angular project structure generator preferably one that includes typescript
[03:22:12] <zquad> ?
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[05:02:37] <ThePeopleTester> Hey Guys I am based in Sydney Australia. I am looking for frontend devs with strong angular skills to come and work for me - is anyone open to a new job at the minute?
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[05:04:30] <ThePeopleTester> I can take people on a Permanent and Contract basis
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[05:36:57] <piratepete> can an angular app without a backend be hosted on any web server, i.e. does not need a j2ee server or container?
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[05:40:40] <piratepete> I'm using JHipster applications that include AngularJS but it's being hosted by Spring-boot. I'm splitting an application into backend REST API and the UI piece will be an Angular app. I'm new to this so I'm curious as to the best way to host it.
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[06:27:58] <freezevee> hi all, can anyone please help ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34858602/pagination-table-footer-not-showing-at-all-with-angular-and-ngtable
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[06:38:15] <Mahisha> Hi I am following the tutorials given at : angular.io. Using the npm at development time without using any other front-end package managers looks good. But I am not able to get how can I build my application for production release
[06:38:25] <Mahisha> Somebody please help me
[06:38:33] <Mahisha> or any link to online resources
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[06:39:29] <Mahisha> I tried searching Google with "Angular 2 Deployment" but all the links are for development but not for production deployment configuration
[06:40:10] <fullstack> Hey anyone here a UI Router NINJA?
[06:40:12] <fullstack> I have a Abstract, Nested view. Then inside the Nested view, I have { ..., views: {}}
[06:40:14] <fullstack> as soon as I put views: {} (even blank) it doesn't display any
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[06:42:08] <fullstack> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4
[06:42:29] <Hrenochel> go
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[06:48:11] <fullstack> ocLazyLoad is that breaking it?
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[06:58:34] <fullstack> herp derp anyone?
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[08:10:05] <nocontrol> can anyone please help ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34858602/pagination-table-footer-not-showing-at-all-with-angular-and-ngtable?noredirect=1#comment57458021_34858602
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[08:14:44] <kschlesselmann> Could someone explain the angular2 component lifecycle to me? I added some code like this.chart = d3.select(this.elementRef.nativeElement).append('svg')... in ngAfterViewInit(). Now my component can be collapsed and shown again. If I show it again I'll get another SVG added. How can I only initialize the SVG once?
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[08:23:23] <yy_> hi guys I'm new to AngularJS
[08:23:47] <yy_> May I know what is the strength of AngularJS compared to other frameworks?
[08:23:51] <yy_> e.g. Ruby?
[08:23:53] <yy_> thanks
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[08:55:19] <nocontrol> can anyone please help ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34858602/pagination-table-footer-not-showing-at-all-with-angular-and-ngtable?noredirect=1#comment57458021_34858602
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[08:56:43] <icebox> nocontrol: as the comment said... no context, no party :)
[08:57:15] <nocontrol> icebox: how can I reproduce my whole rails application with angular and APIs ?
[08:57:48] <nocontrol> icebox: I've done the same thing as the codepen forks but my case fails
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[08:58:16] <icebox> nocontrol: you need to mock data on frontend side without any backend help... you need to reduce your test case in a few lines
[08:59:02] <nocontrol> icebox: and I am telling you this is possible but has nothing to do with my case, as I can't reproduce the whole application
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[08:59:19] <icebox> nocontrol: so what?
[08:59:30] <nocontrol> icebox: I've followed the instructions line by line but it seems I am running into a bug or a confict with another plugin
[08:59:34] <icebox> nocontrol: wiuthout a mcve, it is very hard to help you
[09:00:00] <nocontrol> icebox: I've helped others too, it isn't for some
[09:00:10] <icebox> nocontrol: for humans... for others with telepathy gift it will be easy :)
[09:00:39] <nocontrol> icebox: unfortunately we must do the best we can with what we have
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[09:01:16] <nocontrol> it's easy to press the downvote button, it's just a click
[09:01:33] <icebox> nocontrol: what do you mean?
[09:01:50] <nocontrol> I am talking about the asshole who did it
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[09:02:28] <nocontrol> I don't recall having downvoted anyone on stack overflow ever (with my other account too)
[09:02:44] <icebox> nocontrol: no idea what you are talking about
[09:02:50] <nocontrol> anyway, that's not the case here
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[09:03:19] <nocontrol> I hope that someone experienced in ngTable could be easy to understand
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[09:05:44] <nocontrol> I added some more context which is impossible to see in a codepen or other
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[09:07:21] <icebox> nocontrol: (I disagree at all with your approach) however you will give a try without ng-include (replacing directly the content), because the scope, you know, changes
[09:08:39] <nocontrol> icebox: there is no ng-include in my case
[09:08:44] <nocontrol> it is automatically generated
[09:09:11] <icebox> nocontrol: or you mock data inside the controller without any backend call... you need to narrow the issue
[09:09:21] <nocontrol> icebox: I think I got it
[09:09:26] <icebox> nocontrol: :) ah ok... so the context you provided it is useless :)
[09:09:36] <nocontrol> icebox: strangely, by talking to you I get solutions
[09:10:04] <nocontrol> icebox: I'm sorry, I appreciate your time and your willing to help
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[09:10:18] <nocontrol> icebox: I feel against plunkr, codepen and all this crap
[09:10:42] <nocontrol> icebox: I told you, I've helped people too but I find them disgusting
[09:10:50] <rhp> sometimes it just helps explaining your problem to others ;)
[09:11:06] <nocontrol> You may lose one hour to set something up which will take 5 seconds for someone else to find out
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[09:11:45] <nocontrol> and I strongly disagree that it replicates the problem in a big application
[09:12:19] <nocontrol> My controller fetches data from a Rails API and 8 Models, other services etc.
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[09:13:02] <nocontrol> The issue in my case was that the $promise response from Rails is not just rows, but also includes other objects, like pagination, information etc.
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[09:14:00] <nocontrol> so ng-repeat="row in $data.myresults" didn't generate the pagination, while returning data.myresults and iterating "row in $data" did. Isn't it an ngTable bug ?
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[10:42:56] <codepsycho> hi, again im having issues with ngOptions and models. i can't narrow down the issue so a plunkr isn't possible seeing as i don't have a clue what is causing it, to reproduce. anyhow, i set the model to some string my ngOptions has access to (`item.id as item.name for item in items`)
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[10:43:45] <codepsycho> it seems that after $render is called on the control, the model is correct, the <option> is selected BUT prop('selected') is false. setting it to true fixes it (or calling $render again)
[10:43:52] <codepsycho> any idea what could cause this?
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[10:52:00] <PixelSynox> codepsycho: nah sorry
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[11:13:37] <Nemmo> Hello everybody!
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[11:14:39] <Nemmo> Can I do my next project on Angular 2?
[11:15:12] <icebox> Nemmo: it depends on team skill and project requirements
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[11:15:19] <Nemmo> Is it stable right now?
[11:15:28] <icebox> Nemmo: it is beta
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[11:15:46] <Nemmo> Thx
[11:15:54] <icebox> Nemmo: but the point is not that... it is what I said above (skills and requirements)
[11:16:02] <Nemmo> Are you one of the contributors?
[11:16:32] <icebox> Nemmo: contributor (not dev) :)
[11:16:54] <Nemmo> (:
[11:16:58] <Nemmo> Ok
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[11:17:34] <Nemmo> How do you think how long will angular 2 be on beta?
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[11:18:03] <icebox> Nemmo: really I have no idea... https://github.com/angular/angular/milestones/beta.1
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[11:19:09] <Nemmo> There are not many docs
[11:19:12] <Nemmo> ):
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[12:02:33] <sandeep_> Can anyone help me with custom filtes
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[12:11:09] <ngbot> [angular.js] Narretz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/3fb809e412364e26beaeb8047d4ec83323dd24e4
[12:11:09] <ngbot> angular.js/master 3fb809e Martin Staffa: docs($compile): correct transcludeControllers definition...
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[12:13:30] <ngbot> [angular.js] Narretz pushed 3 new commits to v1.4.x: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/compare/2d1ee4bffddd...ca41996ef718
[12:13:31] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.4.x 09f6061 Matias Niemelä: fix(ngAnimate): do not trigger animations if the document is hidden...
[12:13:31] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.4.x 9a60408 Matias Niemelä: fix(ngAnimate): ensure that animate promises resolve when the document is hidden...
[12:13:31] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.4.x ca41996 Martin Staffa: docs($compile): correct transcludeControllers definition...
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[12:27:30] <babbu> hi
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[12:27:55] <babbu> i have gone through its tutorial
[12:28:18] <babbu> and need hand on experience
[12:28:46] <babbu> == aghiru
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[12:28:56] <babbu> hi
[12:29:03] <babbu> some one help me
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[12:29:21] <babbu> hi uNKi
[12:29:32] <babbu> @uNKi
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[12:37:18] <burzum> When I'm using $location.search(); to get my query params and set them to the scope to populate a form, the selects inside the form dont recognize the selected id, for example country_id because it's a string. I manually have to typecast them to int. Is there a better way to do this?
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[12:46:08] <uNki> hi babbu
[12:46:09] <uNki> whats app
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[12:55:16] <chilversc> is there a specific name/rfc for angulars parameterised urls that $resource and $route uses?
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[12:57:01] <codepsycho> i managed to reproduce my issue: http://plnkr.co/edit/rxN86mKaYlSfSmWVqh6R?p=preview
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[12:57:45] <codepsycho> if the label and value are equal, in angular's internal `addOption`, it calls `$element.val(label)` essentially, which won't work seeing as `select as` ngOptions produces index-based options
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[12:58:17] <codepsycho> seems to be fixed in 1.4.x so it appears i've just found an already found bug :D
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[13:04:26] <sbeex> hi there
[13:05:17] <sbeex> what do you think about nested views in angular ? I really like the idea for the structure but is it an unescessairy pain ? What do you think about that ?
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[13:06:49] <zomg> sbeex: it's a good idea if you can use it to reduce complexity in your app
[13:07:13] <zomg> you're on the right track in that it can be an unnecessary pain, but that applies to simpler apps where it might not be necessary
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[13:07:32] <zomg> in more complex apps it can make more sense (including the more advanced features of ui-router)
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[13:08:07] <sbeex> yes it seems really interesting to me so I can have a left menu which work on its own and so on
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[13:08:41] <sbeex> thank you for your feedback zomg
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[13:08:57] <sbeex> and do you use angular 2 ? or 1 ? I can't figure out what is the best thing to use
[13:09:13] <zomg> I've not looked at angular 2 yet. We have a fairly sizable angular 1 codebase at work
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[13:09:50] <sbeex> yep I can understand
[13:10:07] <sbeex> I am a little bit affraid with "What will happend to existing angular1 libraries"
[13:10:46] <silverdust> I have a input with ng-model attached to a ng-repeated list for filter. After entering values I use jQuery $(selector).val('') to empty the input but the list in the loop still doesn't show till go in to hit a space and then backspace
[13:10:51] <zomg> I think for most intents and purposes they'll remain usable, but probably won't receive many updates
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[13:11:13] <silverdust> Is there a way I can have it also recognize that the filter search has been cleared through jQuery
[13:13:28] <zomg> you should probably attach an ng-model into the input and clear it through setting the model value to empty
[13:13:38] <zomg> that would avoid this issue altogether and be a more angular way of doing it
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[13:16:32] <shiv> Is there any example for ng table, data from ruby on rails
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[13:17:34] <Roby_> hey guys
[13:17:42] <Roby_> how should I go about making HTTP requests?
[13:17:53] <silverdust> Not so clear. I have jQuery doing something else to that input value
[13:18:10] <Roby_> I've tried http://www.sitepoint.com/getting-started-with-angular-2-using-typescript/ but don't have angular2/di
[13:18:28] <silverdust> okay the field uses angular to filter among some list and if the value doesn't exist in that list jquery allows the user hit a button to include it to the list
[13:19:36] <shiv> Is there any example for ng table, data from ruby on rails
[13:20:10] <silverdust> now what I think you mean is while jquery acts on the click event I can have a ng-click that sets the value to '' without interrupting the jquery execution
[13:20:58] <EternalLight> Hi, just trying to get along with Angular 2 and stuck with the following issue. I have a few category pages, which use the same component. However, I have to make different HTTP requests for each category, which is now made in onNgInit(). How do I detect that the URL has been changed and re-run onNgInit() ?
[13:21:21] <EternalLight> I could track click events, indeed, but there must be more elegant way.
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[13:22:53] <EternalLight> Roby, try the Official Example https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/api/http/Http-class.html, it worked for me
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[13:30:52] <silverdust> zomg: trying to understand you better. I already had a ng-model attached to the input and that's how I was able to filter the list with its input
[13:31:12] <silverdust> what I don't get is how to set the model value to empty
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[13:32:41] <ngbot> [angular.js] Narretz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/compare/3fb809e41236...683bd92f5699
[13:32:42] <ngbot> angular.js/master 7700e2d Martin Staffa: fix($animate): correctly handle `$animate.pin()` host elements...
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[13:37:03] <zomg> silverdust: ng-model="butts" --> $scope.butts = '';
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[14:03:12] <silverdust> oh thanks zomg
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[14:04:38] <silverdust> can I have ng-if="1 == 1 | checked" . I want to set checked based on a condition
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[14:11:51] <hrusti_> http://plnkr.co/edit/HWMW9N5poeDH6cMlXVAj?p=preview How does this pattern show valid if input is invalid? What am I missing?
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[14:13:06] <hrusti_> http://plnkr.co/edit/HWMW9N5poeDH6cMlXVAj?p=preview update
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[14:23:25] <icebox> hrusti_: did you see the error in the console?
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[14:25:51] <hrusti_> icebox: no :)
[14:26:01] <hrusti_> I will check it now
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[14:28:09] <abhi_> github angular-ui/bootstrap index file not viewing properly
[14:28:19] <abhi_> please check the it
[14:28:41] <abhi_> https://github.com/angular-ui/bootstrap/tree/gh-pages
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[14:29:38] <abhi_> i downloaded from https://github.com/angular-ui/bootstrap/tree/gh-pages
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[14:31:18] <hrusti_> icebox: update: http://plnkr.co/edit/HWMW9N5poeDH6cMlXVAj?p=preview
[14:31:43] <silverdust> How can I add a checked attribute to an input based on a condition like if 1 == 1
[14:32:25] <silverdust> I tried <input type="checkbox" {{ 1 == 1 ? 'checked' : '' }}>
[14:32:59] <silverdust> but that doesn't work
[14:33:10] <hrusti_> silverdust: use ngIf
[14:33:23] <Roby_> how do I enable cross origin ajax calls from angular2 to a nodejs server?
[14:34:39] <icebox> Roby_: what do you mean? A (frontend) -> B (backend - same network) -> C(remote) or A (frontend) -> B (backend - cross) ?
[14:34:56] <silverdust> hrusti_: how? Is this valid ng-if="1 == 1 ? checked"
[14:35:08] <Roby_> trying to use a get from my frontend to the backend ( same network atm )
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[14:35:21] <Roby_> getting : XMLHttpRequest cannot load %310.40.10.50:8080/test. Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.
[14:35:41] <Roby_> what I tried was the following :             jQuery.ajax({                 url: this.url + '/test',                 crossDomain: true             });    in angular2 typescript
[14:36:11] <Roby_> also made the res headers have allow-cross-origin on the server-side
[14:36:16] <Roby_> but still yields this error
[14:36:24] <icebox> Roby_: I repeat the question... is your frontend provided from your backend?
[14:36:27] <hrusti_> silverdust: check docs example https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngIf
[14:36:32] <Roby_> yes
[14:37:03] <icebox> Roby_: ok... so, you don't need to do anything :)
[14:37:11] <silverdust> From googling all I find is ng-if="checked" where only a truthy or falsy value is passed in it. Nothing shows how to define an attribute if the condition passes or fails
[14:37:17] <Roby_> icebox: kinda do since it gives me the rror :-?
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[14:39:05] <silverdust> hrusti_: the example is still the same thing. The condition is passed in ng-if to see if its true or false and determines content display . Here I want it for attribute not content
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[14:39:49] <icebox> Roby_: recap the setup... you have a nodejs server (ip 10.40.10.50, port 8080)... from the browser http:/10.40.10.50/myApp  and do you get a cross domain error?
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[14:40:19] <Roby_> yeah
[14:40:30] <Roby_> i have an ajax get on one of the components
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[14:40:33] <Roby_> and that gives me the error
[14:40:43] <icebox> Roby_: ah ok... bad boy!
[14:41:36] <hrusti_> silverdust: sure you can do ngif="'foo'  == 'foo'"
[14:41:38] <icebox> Roby_: of course, if some component calls an external url, that is a CORS
[14:42:10] <hrusti_> silverdust: what about if you create 2 elements one if condition pass and another if fails
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[14:42:41] <Roby_> icebox: I've tried : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11181546/how-to-enable-cross-origin-resource-sharing-cors-in-the-express-js-framework-o
[14:42:43] <Roby_> doesn't work
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[14:43:03] <icebox> Roby_: http://enable-cors.org/
[14:43:48] <icebox> Roby_: or use your nodejs as between-in man
[14:43:59] <Roby_> icebox: I tried using http://enable-cors.org/server_expressjs.html
[14:44:00] <hrusti_> silverdust: which attribute do you want to use?
[14:44:01] <Roby_> doesn't work
[14:44:17] <icebox> Roby_: no...
[14:44:20] <Roby_> I'm trying to make a call to my own nodejs server
[14:44:25] <hrusti_> icebox: have you seen my updated example?
[14:44:30] <icebox> hrusti_: no
[14:45:09] <icebox> Roby_: nah... ;)
[14:46:00] <Roby_> icebox : nah what ? :))
[14:46:22] <hrusti_> icebox: http://plnkr.co/edit/R6kpBJDqT3rBZhSp8AjW?p=preview
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[14:46:56] <icebox> Roby_: recap again... you are saying you are doing an ajax call (10.40.10.50:8080) from a frontend provided from a nodejs server (10.40.10.50:8080) and you get a CORS error
[14:47:14] <hrusti_> am I missing something obvious?
[14:47:30] <Roby_> something like that
[14:47:37] <Roby_> I'm using this tutorial : http://blog.edenmsg.com/angular2-typescript-gulp-and-expressjs/
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[14:47:44] <icebox> Roby_: no... here the details are important :)
[14:48:05] <Roby_> the server is on (10.40.10.50:8080) , the client makes a call to : 10.40.10.50:8080\test
[14:48:10] <Roby_> ajax call
[14:48:35] <Roby_> when the client accesses '/' i send him the index file in the node app
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[14:48:42] <silverdust> hrusti_: I want to add a checked if 1 == 1
[14:48:51] <silverdust> like checked for checkbox
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[14:49:10] <silverdust> my exact usecase isn't a 1 == 1 but if that works that it fits my usecase
[14:49:33] <hrusti_>  ngif="1 == 1" should work (not tested)
[14:49:34] <icebox> Roby_: check in devtools network the call (address and port)
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[14:50:41] <icebox> Roby_: something is misconfigured, because calling your own backend is standard :)
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[14:51:20] <silverdust> here's what it'll do <div ng-if="1 == 1">A little fairy</div> . It will show the content A little fairy as far as the condition passes but that's not what I want. I'm not dealing with content. I want it to manipulate the checked attribute of the element
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[14:51:54] <icebox> hrusti_: what do you expect?
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[14:52:03] <silverdust> so if condition passes give me a checked check box else an unchecked one
[14:52:19] <icebox> hrusti_: (and please use the the latest stable version, really 1.2.x?) :)
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[14:53:28] <icebox> hrusti_:  1.000000 as valid input?
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[14:54:23] <hrusti_> icebox: sorry found some example and change it, didn't really check it :)
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[14:54:27] <silverdust> I guess it's impossible to manipulate things like element attributes just contents and attribute values
[14:54:37] <hrusti_> icebox: https://regex101.com/r/aE9wK2/1
[14:54:49] <tangorri> hello guys, I need to some ihneritance, witch technique should I use ?
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[14:55:59] <Roby_> icebox: changed everything to localhost and 8080
[14:56:01] <Roby_> icebox: XMLHttpRequest cannot load localhost:8080/test. Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.
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[14:57:24] <icebox> Roby_: well... from 10.x to localhost doesn't change anything... something is misconfigured... no idea what you are trying
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[14:57:41] <Roby_> icebox: http://paste.isomorphis.me/ca4
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[14:58:17] <icebox> Roby_: firstly why do you tweak headers?
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[14:58:26] <Roby_> http://enable-cors.org/server_expressjs.html
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[14:58:36] <icebox> Roby_: no and no
[14:58:50] <icebox> Roby_: if you call your own server, you don't need anything
[14:59:04] <Roby_> icebox: with nothing it gives me the same error ....
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[14:59:40] <icebox> Roby_: something is badly configured... because there are zillions of nodejs server providing static files and publishing api :)
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[15:00:04] <Roby_> might have anything to do with the fact that I'm behind a proxy?
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[15:00:47] <icebox> Roby_: ah... of course that is a irrilevant detail !!!
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[15:01:37] <icebox> Roby_: proxy for local host?
[15:01:58] <Roby_> icebox: lemme check
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[15:02:08] <silverdust> what I need was ng-attr-checked . Finally found it
[15:02:10] <Roby_> icebox: no, looks like no proxy for localhost
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[15:02:22] <icebox> Roby_: for sure :)
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[15:02:55] <icebox> Roby_: out of ideas... that stuff works out-of-the-shell
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[15:05:20] <icebox> Roby_: your effort was big to create a cors error in a local setup... are you sure you are loading the page with http:// and not file://?
[15:06:13] <Roby_> icebox: yeah ... that's an idea
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[15:06:18] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/ba6d37756e9553afa2ebdda18fb52d49c911e3aa
[15:06:18] <ngbot> angular.js/master ba6d377 Georgios Kalpakas: docs(ngModel): rename `$asyncValidators` error to `nopromise` and add missing error page...
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[15:06:41] <Roby_> icebox: thnx
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[15:07:58] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to v1.4.x: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/900c7cd923e992cc80c2c1e0330f56e5fe72f5fb
[15:07:58] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.4.x 900c7cd Georgios Kalpakas: docs(ngModel): rename `$asyncValidators` error to `nopromise` and add missing error page...
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[15:10:07] <soee> if user gets authenticated on server side and you need thi suser data in Auth service on client side, you would return it from login request and update serivce data, ot do separate call to get authet user?
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[15:12:33] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to v1.3.x: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/bba600414784ef969f601556662560d0e9b24658
[15:12:33] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.3.x bba6004 Georgios Kalpakas: docs(ngModel): rename `$asyncValidators` error to `nopromise` and add missing error page...
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[15:12:59] <icebox> soee: first one
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[15:13:29] <soee> icebox: is it good idea to expose Auth service with function to change user data ?
[15:13:38] <icebox> soee: however every request passes the credentials and they are verified on server side
[15:13:47] <Cir0X> Hey! Anybody know why my ng-switch doesn't work, but the scope is available? http://plnkr.co/edit/N18T9hiU6TEGmW8A5TrI?p=catalogue
[15:13:51] <icebox> soee: the token!
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[15:14:15] <icebox> soee: no secrets on frontend
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[15:15:45] <icebox> soee: usually if the authentication is successfull, the backend returns a token (with an expiration time)... the frontend uses that token in every call to the backend
[15:16:36] <icebox> soee: the token is stored in a profile (session) service, for instance
[15:16:40] <icebox> soee: does it make sense?
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[15:22:30] <jieryn> best way to force page to reload in angular? i need to invalidate an $http cache
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[15:23:10] <JB___> Hi guys. I'm working with the ui-bootstrap datepicker. Do you know if there is any way to change the orientation to top?
[15:23:31] <icebox> jieryn: $state.go($state.$current, null, { reload: true });
[15:23:47] <icebox> jieryn: or $state.reload()
[15:23:53] <jieryn> is that angular 2?
[15:24:07] <icebox> jieryn: and $state.go('.')
[15:24:33] <jieryn> https://code.angularjs.org/1.4.8/docs/api doesn't seem to have this $state documented
[15:24:47] <icebox> jieryn: of course you need to use ui router
[15:24:52] <jieryn> eek
[15:24:56] <jieryn> i use ngRoute
[15:25:11] <icebox> jieryn: use ui router.. it is the standard de facto
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[15:25:28] <soee> icebox: make sens, but atm. i do not use JWT etc. user is authenticated on server side (session)
[15:25:56] <jieryn> ok, is there a migration guide? sorry, i am not familiar with it
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[15:26:54] <jieryn> https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router -- ok, this looks dramatic departure from ngRoute
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[15:27:09] <icebox> jieryn: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngRoute/service/$route#methods
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[15:27:25] <icebox> jieryn: see reload()... however I suggest to use ui router
[15:27:35] <jieryn> ooooh
[15:27:42] <jieryn> ok, i will def. read about ui-router
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[15:27:48] <jieryn> but just need to get past a bug fast
[15:27:52] <jieryn> thank you icebox  :-D
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[15:28:08] <icebox> jieryn: you are welcome
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[15:29:22] <icebox> soee: no idea what is your auth process... but it is evil saving passwords on frontend
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[15:32:23] <hrusti_> icebox: so do you maybe know how do I use "\b(0|[1-9]\d*)\.\d{8}\b" as ngPattern value? I am still getting unexpected identifier error
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[15:33:39] <icebox> hrusti_: sure
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[15:34:13] <soee> icebox: no, no. sensitive data isn'a available on forntend :)
[15:34:24] <icebox> soee: ah ok... :)
[15:34:41] <icebox> hrusti_: see the last example in this page
[15:34:46] <icebox> hrusti_: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngPattern
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[15:35:22] <icebox> hrusti_: I added your regex \b(0|[1-9]\d*)\.\d{8}\b and your input 1.00000000 and it says it is valid
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[15:39:20] <JB___> Hi guys. I'm working with the ui-bootstrap datepicker. Do you know if there is any way to change the orientation to top? Thanks !
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[15:45:38] <lumin> hi
[15:45:48] <lumin> anyone here?
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[15:47:56] <icebox> don't ask to ask
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[15:56:16] <hrusti_> icebox: yeah
[15:56:29] <hrusti_> icebox: I have seen that example
[15:56:48] <hrusti_> but still can't get it work in plunker with initial value to my pattern
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[15:57:28] <hrusti_> icebox: http://plnkr.co/edit/W5DXeqz7p7LiHjEKzDlm?p=preview
[15:57:34] <hrusti_> It is always vaid
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[15:59:07] <hrusti_> valid*
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[16:01:32] <hrusti_> http://plnkr.co/edit/W5DXeqz7p7LiHjEKzDlm?p=preview and why is regex empty?
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[16:02:28] <hrusti_> http://plnkr.co/edit/W5DXeqz7p7LiHjEKzDlm?p=preview sorry forgot to add ng-controller :)
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[16:02:38] <PuruPuru> Hey. Is anyone here? I have a tiny problem with ngView, idk what I'm doing wrong.
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[16:03:52] <icebox> hrusti_: better $scope.regex = '\\b(0|[1-9]\d*)\\.\\d{8}\b'; you need to escape the backslash
[16:05:13] <hrusti_> icebox: ok. But still doesn't work as expected :/
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[16:06:13] <icebox> hrusti_: here it works $scope.regex = '\\b(0|[1-9]\\d*)\\.\\d{8}\\b';
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[16:08:15] <kegster> if i do {{ foo.someVal }} and .someVal is HTML, how can i have the html display properly?
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[16:09:07] <Roby_> how do I make something from the server public?
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[16:09:13] <Roby_> so i can access it however I want
[16:09:16] <icebox> kegster: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngBindHtml
[16:09:24] <Roby_> for example : localhost:8080/picture.png ?
[16:09:36] <kegster> icebox, any way to do without a directive?
[16:09:41] <Roby_> I tried using the express.static thinggy but doesn't seem to do the job
[16:10:00] <kegster> i bet that'll change with ng2
[16:10:15] <kegster> oh well, i'm sure it'll work for now. :D
[16:10:22] <icebox> kegster: please read the docs... in that page it is explained how do it (even if that directive)
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[16:11:47] <icebox> kegster: in that page it is explained how to do it (without that directive)... sanitize it :)
[16:11:51] <PuruPuru> Okay. So I'm trying to make some basic routing stuff. And I have my partials, my controller. I verified that routing works.. it changes the URL in browser and all that, but the controller doesn't run and I can't access the template either. When i go to the template link directly from browser it works
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[16:12:18] <BigPoppa> morning icebox
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[16:12:37] <PuruPuru> Can anyone help me?
[16:12:51] <icebox> PuruPuru: checking directly the link of the template with the browser means only the template is available :)
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[16:13:45] <PuruPuru> icebox: yeah i was afraid of it being not available. But the routing not loading the template/controller is what bugs me off, and I don't know how to debug that.
[16:13:50] <icebox> PuruPuru: firstly check the route definition, then check in devtools network tab if there are not 404 messages
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[16:14:18] <merpnderp> I should be able to simple replace http.success().error() with http.then().catch() right?
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[16:14:30] <icebox> merpnderp: yep
[16:14:47] <merpnderp> icebox: that's what I thought the docs said, but wanted to make double sure. Thanks :)
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[16:18:40] <PuruPuru> icebox: I don't get any 404. but it doesn't seem to start in the first place
[16:18:49] <PuruPuru> icebox: or, idk
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[16:19:39] <icebox> PuruPuru: if you don't the template loaded in the network tab, you are not in the correct state... the route definition is not correctly set
[16:19:47] <icebox> PuruPuru: *don't see
[16:19:51] <KamelJabber> ok, hello all, i'm on day 2 of trying to setup angularjs 2.0 with in visual studio 2015 mvc project with no success
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[16:20:25] <KamelJabber> visual studio is just throwing a couple thousand typescript errors
[16:21:02] <icebox> KamelJabber: did you follow any tutorial for the setup?
[16:21:21] <KamelJabber> this: https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/quickstart.html
[16:21:36] <KamelJabber> however it states to use the tsc compiler
[16:21:47] <icebox> KamelJabber: http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/1026938/AngularJS-Getting-Started-with-Visual-Studio
[16:21:50] <PuruPuru> icebox: I'm new with angular. http://pastebin.com/eVjFPVjc can you see if there is any problem in here?
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[16:22:07] <KamelJabber> i actually skipped that step, i realize that is foolish, however, why runthe command line compiler when it's built into vs
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[16:22:15] <KamelJabber> i'll look over the links you just posted
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[16:24:28] <icebox> PuruPuru: visually it seems correct, even if I am used with ui router and not ngroute...
[16:25:56] <icebox> PuruPuru: don't use absolute path
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[16:26:15] <PuruPuru> icebox: my html has ng-app="app", inside the body there is a place that should be shown where i have <div ng-view></div> idk why template won't show
[16:27:20] <icebox> PuruPuru: give a look at this old example http://plnkr.co/edit/dd8Nk9PDFotCQu4yrnDg?p=info
[16:27:33] <PuruPuru> icebox: i tried with multiple paths, thinking my path was wrong.
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[16:28:04] <icebox> PuruPuru: loaded angular-route.js?
[16:28:29] <PuruPuru> yes
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[16:28:49] <PuruPuru> it's in the head of the main html to which everything that isn't a file gets redirected
[16:29:28] <icebox> PuruPuru: ng-route doesn't supoort nested and multiple views
[16:29:39] <icebox> PuruPuru: use ui router for that
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[16:30:03] <uNki> how can i write "jQuery(this.elementRef.nativeElement).find('.dropdown')" with pure angular 2 techniques?
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[16:30:34] <uNki> "this.dom.getElementsByClassName(this.elementRef.nativeElement, 'dropdown')" returns the exact same html node
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[16:31:18] <uNki> but if i use Semantic UIs ".dropdown()" function in it, jQuery works, Angular 2 says ".dropdown is not a function"
[16:31:59] <PuruPuru> icebox: I have one main application, it's in the index.html. Inside it, in the body i have only one ng-view. Does that count as nested/multiple? I tought ng-route is meant to load a controller and template for the ng-view
[16:33:09] <icebox> PuruPuru: if your use case it is similar to the example I provided, try to compare them to find the differences
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[16:51:25] <PuruPuru> icebox: they are practically identical
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[16:52:48] <icebox> PuruPuru: the details are important... I am afraid you need to dig a bit more
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[17:00:45] <PuruPuru> icebox: well, it's pretty obvious that the controller doesn't start at all. The location and all that are running smoothly though.
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[17:03:27] <icebox> PuruPuru: add route events to understand better what it happens behind the scenes, or add a resolve property to check if the state is correct
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[17:04:23] <icebox> PuruPuru: http://www.undefinednull.com/2014/02/17/resolve-in-angularjs-routes-explained-as-story/
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[17:07:29] <icebox> PuruPuru: And I imagine you gave a look at the console and there are no errors of any sort
[17:07:39] <icebox> off by
[17:07:40] <icebox> bye
[17:07:48] <PuruPuru> icebox: cya
[17:07:57] <PuruPuru> icebox: no errors ofc.
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[17:15:28] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/6a92e9111f8eddc9cebaa1ee01c8453c891f23bd
[17:15:28] <ngbot> angular.js/master 6a92e91 thorn0: docs(uppercase, lowercase): undocument these artifacts...
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[17:30:25] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/92e4801d88fbe9b7ef719fd3d0175d85420e1cc4
[17:30:25] <ngbot> angular.js/master 92e4801 Daniel Herman: perf($compile): avoid needless overhead when wrapping text nodes...
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[17:36:01] <ngbot> angular.js/master db5e0ff Peter Bacon Darwin: fix($compile): handle boolean attributes in `@` bindings...
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[18:08:00] <robak> hi everyone
[18:08:20] <PixelSynox> yop
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[18:09:38] <robak> I am trying to extract a photo description from flickr public feed here: https://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/photos_public.gne?format=json
[18:10:11] <robak> how to discard the link, the im from it and only get/display the last <p></p> using angular?
[18:10:17] <robak> cant find a way to do it reliably...
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[18:28:46] <robak> any idea how to approach this problem?
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[18:31:35] <Dystal> Hello, I want to use angular 2, but I can't find the download on the page, I need to manually install, as I don't have access to terminal for my host
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[18:37:04] <aremaref> trying to use directives and ng-show to show/hide an overlay for an html5 video
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[18:37:05] <aremaref> http://plnkr.co/edit/0QbVjyUxAl5KvCjUgwTt?p=info
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[18:37:31] <aremaref> but it doesn't seem to want to work - I change the variable in the scope but it doesn't change in the view
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[18:49:54] <Notte> Hi, is it possible to make angular use jQuery while using a CommonJS module system? jQuery doesn't set global variables anymore with module.exports present
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[18:52:12] <Notte> i tried with angular.element = jQuery but compiled directives still use jqLite
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[18:54:24] <Notte> i've never seen this channel so calm before
[18:54:36] <Notte> :)
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[18:55:10] <BahamutWC|Work> Notte: you could just do window.jQuery = jQuery before loading angular
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[18:56:31] <Notte> BahamutWC|Work: i don't know why i didn't think about that. I'll try, thanks! :D
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[18:58:01] <Tomdarkness> If I have multiple $http interceptors that handle responseError how can I pass through the error if I don't want that interceptor to handle it? Currently it just calls one of them and not the other
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[18:59:13] <Tomdarkness> Trying returning the original rejection, $q.reject(rejection) but both of those only result in a single interceptor being called.
[18:59:25] <Notte> Tomdarkness: i don't remember exactly but i'm pretty sure the chain is interrupted based on the interceptor's return value
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[19:01:02] <joroci> hey, in protractor i have a dropdown element how can i get the selected index of the dropdown?
[19:01:13] <Tomdarkness> Notte: Thanks, just trying to figure out what to return, documentation does not really explain it
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[19:01:56] <Notte> Tomdarkness: try with the plain rejection instead of the promise
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[19:06:59] <Notte> Tomdarkness: no, returning a rejected promise is correct if you want the next interceptor's responseError method to be called: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/ng/http.js#L962
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[19:11:44] <Tomdarkness> Notte: Thanks. Hm, not sure why it's not calling the next one then. I'll do some more debugging
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[19:16:04] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/compare/db5e0ffe124a...8d20b04f1c1b
[19:16:04] <ngbot> angular.js/master 3ffdf38 Peter Bacon Darwin: feat($compile): call `$ngOnInit` on directive controllers after controller construction...
[19:16:04] <ngbot> angular.js/master cd21216 Peter Bacon Darwin: feat($compile): allow `require` to be an object...
[19:16:04] <ngbot> angular.js/master 56c3666 Peter Bacon Darwin: feat($compile): allow required controllers to be bound to the directive controller...
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[19:44:57] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/d98c5f03a4cee88a3f0a383c217e3b2f84bbaa25
[19:44:57] <ngbot> angular.js/master d98c5f0 Daniel Herman: chore($compile): remove an unused dependency...
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[19:45:35] <KoulSlou> hi
[19:45:44] <KoulSlou> what's up?
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[19:46:22] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to v1.4.x: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/c429ad82f5c829d52000c7d5909a9fce723caba4
[19:46:22] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.4.x c429ad8 Daniel Herman: chore($compile): remove an unused dependency...
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[19:48:19] <sj> Can we not use the "controller as" syntax with the $http service in Angular?
[19:48:43] <zomg> I'm not entirely sure what controller as has to do with that
[19:48:50] <zomg> Do you have an example?
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[19:51:55] <sj> zomg: http://pastebin.com/tsT1W61b
[19:52:12] <jamesch> Hi, I’m using a library which expects to get an $http promise, containing the data in .data. I’m using Restangular, which I thought was using $http in the background, but it seems to be unpacking .data and returning the raw results.
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[19:52:34] <sj> I am just trying to fetch some data from the github API through Angular and display it. It prints in the console, but the view is blank.
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[19:53:46] <sj> zomg: This is the view: http://pastebin.com/iTtEvt5v
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[20:11:07] <ngbot> [angular.js] Narretz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/compare/d98c5f03a4ce...1137d91abddc
[20:11:07] <ngbot> angular.js/master 288e4e3 Maxime Lasserre: docs($animate): make naming consistent...
[20:11:07] <ngbot> angular.js/master 1137d91 Martin Staffa: docs(ngRepeat): point out animate example, remove ng-init...
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[20:11:43] <zomg> sj: the problem is your function's `this` context
[20:12:20] <zomg> you need to bind it to the same `this` as in your controller (or use one of the other methods like var self = this and such)
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[20:36:02] <WillianColognesi> Hello peoples, i'm need use RequireJS + AngularJS, someone simple tutorial ?
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[21:17:15] <aremaref> i want to be able to access html5 video api from an angular controller but i'm not sure how to get access to the element - how can i do that?
[21:17:34] <aremaref> so i can create an play/pause button
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[21:50:13] <alex_> Hey all anyone have any experience with angular ui elements and rpc instead of rest?
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[21:50:51] <alex_> ?
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[22:00:48] <skullcrasher> would you guys start and productive application still with 1.x or go with angular2 and hope it's ready/stable soon?
[22:00:55] <skullcrasher> *an
[22:02:19] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: It depends.
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[22:02:49] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Do you usually use a lot of 3rd party modueles in your applications?
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[22:03:36] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Do you have a skilled team to learn from source code? or a trained team that has a lot of experience with 1.x?
[22:03:53] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Also...
[22:04:07] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, the team will be quite new to angular, this would be the first project.
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[22:04:30] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: You should never implement you business objects inside any framework, they should always be plain old objects
[22:04:56] <skullcrasher> and 3rd party it depends. I always try to do as much as possible to to with core features and prefer custom code over too many plugins
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[22:05:12] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Some bad examples available will lead to wrong practices, like putting logic in Views or Controllers.
[22:06:20] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, I played around some time with 1.x and always tried to do like the docs say. as modular as possible and logic in directives some in controller
[22:06:29] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: If your team is good, they will leverage IoC to make your business code loosely coupled from 1.4 or 2.0
[22:07:00] <lnrdo> with
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[22:07:30] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, well the business code should be on the api (pobably java in this case) side
[22:07:31] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Yeah, lots of "simplified" examples, showing "inline" code.
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[22:08:03] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Oh! Doing true rest is still a challenge.
[22:08:19] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Spring Data Rest, for example, is quite crude at this moment.
[22:09:04] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: I need to take a shot with Apache Isis, but it is too far away from usual architectural stack.
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[22:09:31] <skullcrasher> hmm
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[22:10:03] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Resulting in too much 'out-of-band' information, a.k.a., business code leaking to client side
[22:10:48] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, so any recommended tuts to do it "the right way"?
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[22:11:03] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: My "stable" approach so far is having "Domain Objects", rich domain objects, representing business domains on both client and server side.
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[22:11:40] <skullcrasher> actually I shall do a little presentation of angular first, tomorrow to see if it could even fit (what I could imagine)
[22:11:43] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Our team is working hard on it right now, to get Spring Data Rest working with Json schema and hyper schema.
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[22:11:52] <zomg> heh
[22:12:06] <zomg> why am I not surprised it's a java dev project after you talked about domain objects, rich domain objects, business domains etc.
[22:12:09] <zomg> :D
[22:12:09] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: On the angular 1.4 side it is going well as PoC
[22:12:22] <lnrdo> zomg: ?
[22:12:32] <lnrdo> zomg: It is not Java, it is Software Eng.
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[22:12:49] <lnrdo> zomg: I am a Perl native speaker.
[22:13:02] <zomg> heh
[22:13:19] <lnrdo> zomg: Actually you'll find a lot of anaemic domains on Javaland.
[22:13:19] <zomg> well yeah, but java projects tend to employ all sorts of complex patterns
[22:13:29] <zomg> yeah you'll find those everywhere :)
[22:13:46] <lnrdo> zomg: Plain old OOP is not "all sorts of complex patterns"
[22:13:52] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, well, 1.4 would look ok for me too, I'm just concerned whenever 2.x comes out stable this year it would need a complete rewrite and would've been a waste of time then :/
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[22:14:03] <zomg> lnrdo: you've clearly only been in not terrible java projects, somehow. :P
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[22:14:33] <lnrdo> zomg: I am a refactoring-man
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[22:15:20] <lnrdo> zomg: Last year I jumped into some "rest" projects just to discover they only known verb was POST
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[22:15:30] <skullcrasher> :D
[22:15:57] <lnrdo> zomg: It was not possible to remove all business logic written in Controllers (Spring)
[22:16:19] <lnrdo> zomg: But I was able to get a lot of UI code refactored.
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[22:17:38] <lnrdo> zomg: Instead of inline code spread everywhere using $rootScope and $scope as global bags, we got domain objects representing the resources, with behaviour and data resting togheter.
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[22:17:56] <zomg> yeah that makes sense
[22:18:14] <lnrdo> zomg: We managed to change the project from utterly failure to almost success.
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[22:18:28] <zomg> almost? :P
[22:18:33] <lnrdo> zomg: It was not Rest yet, but at least it was "good" programming.
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[22:18:58] <lnrdo> zomg: Yeah, you can't save 6 months of bad software engineering without some relevant compromise.
[22:19:13] <zomg> I tend to measure project success by other factors than whether or not it was good programming... although in the long run low quality obviously starts to affect the result
[22:19:47] <lnrdo> zomg: Yeah, bad design lead to buggy results.
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[22:20:28] <lnrdo> While good design makes the QA effort a funil, bad design make it circular.
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[22:21:25] <lnrdo> You probably have bad design when you get more bugs after fixing all known bugs.
[22:21:49] <zomg> or not enough unit tests =)
[22:21:51] <lnrdo> https://github.com/TrueRest
[22:22:00] <lnrdo> https://github.com/TJRest
[22:22:10] <lnrdo> zomg: ^ Our playground.
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[22:23:02] <lnrdo> zomg: We started this week an effort to understand how to leverage Spring Data Rest, but it's far from what I expected until now.
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[22:23:22] <lnrdo> zomg: On the JS side, we are making some interesting experiences
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[22:24:02] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Take a look at https://github.com/TrueRest/angular-json-schema, it is not to be used, but it has a lot of exercises.
[22:24:56] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: If you have server side using Perl, Python or Ruby you'll probably find it easier to get Json-Schema/Hyper/Meta from the API than with Java.
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[22:25:27] <lnrdo> zomg: We just started our effort to get some Rest here.
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[22:25:49] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, that is also a question with backend ... until now it's a bit weird I would say
[22:26:16] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Yeah, you can't do the Right Way if backend is not done the Right Way.
[22:26:16] <skullcrasher> it's jquery on top of ruby, which is partly on top of a java api
[22:26:39] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: So it is all JSON-RPC, right?
[22:26:42] <skullcrasher> what I want to achieve with using angular, it to completely wipe the jquery/ruby part (not necessary in my view)
[22:27:06] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, json yes
[22:27:15] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Ruby only access Java using webservices?
[22:27:44] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, yes. mostly
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[22:28:04] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Java WebServices have any documentation? Swagger at least?
[22:28:46] <skullcrasher> well as the new project (with angular/java stack) will just start not yet
[22:28:54] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Backend?
[22:29:23] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: You could try to use Java (Spring Data Rest) with HAL+ALPS.
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[22:29:56] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: You'd still have a lot of out-of-band information on client, but it would probably become much cleaner than usual.
[22:30:02] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, well the whole project will be a new one (the other was the old stuff)
[22:30:35] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: So, the problem with HAL+ALPS is it is missing a lot of vital information per design.
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[22:32:25] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, I still think this solution is much cleaner than what was there before
[22:32:43] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Which one?
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[22:32:54] <skullcrasher> jquery/ruby/java
[22:33:06] <skullcrasher> with not a real rest api
[22:33:13] <mst> ow
[22:33:16] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Oh! Probably yes
[22:33:19] <skullcrasher> :D
[22:33:28] <mst> swagger2's worth a look at as well
[22:33:42] <skullcrasher> yes, already on the list :P
[22:33:51] <Madmallard> I have a directive with a controller and in the link function it sets a value in the scope to a datatable that it uses to show entries for a particular user
[22:33:57] <lnrdo> mst: Yes, but I really think swagger is a problem when you are trying to go Rest.
[22:34:10] <Madmallard> I need to be able to reload that datatable when the user changes, but the watch for that user change is in the controller, how do I do this?
[22:34:32] <archon-> i hear catalyst is nice
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[22:34:39] <mst> lnrdo: it's far from true HATEOAS but a big improvement over nothing
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[22:35:02] <Satya_> is there any fix for ui-grid not showing 100% in a container?
[22:35:03] <mst> and often a mediocre standard that people stick to beats some bits being spot on and other bits being inconsistent and terrible
[22:35:03] <lnrdo> mst: But it is a step away from json-schema, right?
[22:35:41] <mst> my experience of JSON Schema is that most of the time it's more trouble than it's worth
[22:36:04] <archon-> we used swagger on my last project but at some point it got too unwieldy
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[22:36:15] <lnrdo> mst: I'm still to get one framework generating it right.
[22:37:07] <lnrdo> mst: I've been trying Spring Data Rest. It is totally broken.
[22:38:19] <Satya_> ui-grid not showing 100% width in a container. What could be the root cause of the issue?
[22:38:34] <Satya_> any fix?
[22:38:53] <archon-> incorrect css?
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[22:39:10] <archon-> fix: correct css
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[22:39:22] <lnrdo> mst: Is Swagger 2 providing any of the hyperschema job?
[22:39:52] <Satya_> css seems to be right.. when the window is resized the width is 100% but when it is initially rendered it is not ..
[22:40:23] <mst> must run
[22:40:45] <Satya_> in the first load it is unable to compute the width of the container..
[22:41:15] <Satya_> but when the window is resized it is able to and displays the contents with 100% width
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[22:42:42] <Autolycus> hi
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[22:44:36] <lnrdo> mst: My experience with Swagger was limited to JSON-RPC, I can't see it helping with hypermedia, but need to get back and study it again. It was, on my previous experience, a fancy place to display some partial out-of-band information :p but I this is perhaps outdated information.
[22:45:00] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, so overall replacing the old stack with angular 1.x + java looks reasonable?
[22:45:26] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: I'd not prototype using Java if not required from some authority.
[22:45:34] <skullcrasher> required :P
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[22:46:05] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: So I'd try Spring Data Rest, which runs on top of Spring Boot and Spring Hateoas.
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[22:46:25] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, that's the plan for now, yes.
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[22:46:46] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: But, be advised that it almost requires Domain Driven Design, so get some copies of the Blue Book
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[22:47:39] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, ok, thanks a loot, will look into that more deeply
[22:47:44] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Take a look at Apache Isis just to see something different
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[22:48:09] <lnrdo> mst: What about restful-objects?
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[22:49:38] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: I'd try to create all client code in objects representing your resources.
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[22:50:08] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: and using this objects from controllers and directives.
[22:50:33] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, so you talk about something like a 'UserFactory'?
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[22:50:56] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: User?
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[22:51:24] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, whateverFactory (angular.factory... ) with ngResource
[22:52:01] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: It is interesting, if we do proper web application, the state should be kept at the location, right?
[22:52:38] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: So you'd always need to use the resolve: parameter when using ui-route.
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[22:53:11] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: Resolve should provide you the resource object needed by view and controller.
[22:54:05] <skullcrasher> yes, I thought that is done by resolving the promise that comes from a resource
[22:54:18] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: That's the idea
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[22:54:48] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: When the promise is cleared, than it makes sense to follow with controller and view.
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[22:55:29] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: But I can't count how many so called web interfaces will not keep the state by the URI
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[22:56:17] <skullcrasher> isn't this done with ui-router quite the way you describe?
[22:56:45] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: It can be done this way.
[22:57:28] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: It is just easy to get away from it.
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[22:58:25] <ngbot> [angular.js] matsko pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/2cb1989d12f7fa3acaafb8d762c91b156edd8603
[22:58:25] <ngbot> angular.js/master 2cb1989 Matias Niemelä: chore($AnimateRunner): examine the document more carefully...
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[22:58:37] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: We are trying to enforce this at https://github.com/TrueRest/angular-json-schema
[22:59:26] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: We are also trying some needed extensinos, so it is not supposed to be used anywhere.
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[22:59:54] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, no problem. Having a look won't hurt anyway ;)
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[23:01:19] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: and we are trying to use json-schema, because hal+alps will never provide what we need, but I'd say it is way to start something now if using Spring Data Rest.
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[23:01:46] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: We are probably going to create a helper to use HAL+ALPS this way.
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[23:02:21] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: The problem is, almost every property has a type as SEMANTIC, and there is not way to define a proper type.
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[23:03:28] <dashu> does this article describe "keep the state at the location" what you mentioned ?  https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/restful-web-services/9780596809140/ch01s03.html
[23:03:33] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: So you need to have it hardcoded on client side.
[23:03:52] <lnrdo> dashu: Need to read it.
[23:04:14] <lnrdo> dashu: It is easy to grasp.
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[23:05:26] <lnrdo> dashu: If you copy and paste your current URL on facebbok the object you see (even if a different representation) is what is going to be shared? If anyone clicks the link it will see what you had on screen?
[23:05:29] <dashu> i am new to the whole web development world :o
[23:06:31] <lnrdo> dashu: If doing web applicaitons right, your URL should always represent a state of the resource you see (what you see is a representation).
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[23:07:09] <lnrdo> If you copy and paste the current URL from FF to Chrome, you should get the same object, eventually after authenticating again.
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[23:07:35] <dashu> ah ok
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[23:08:14] <lnrdo> dashu: So if you right click on any link, it should open correctly on a new tab/window if desired.
[23:08:55] <lnrdo> dashu: Unfortunately a lot of "web" developers do not understand the web.
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[23:11:04] <lnrdo> dashu: The link you provided is mixing the state identifier with the state itself, this is the only problem.
[23:11:52] <lnrdo> dashu: For example, let's say you have a person resouce.
[23:12:33] <dashu> mhm
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[23:12:55] <lnrdo> dashu: I am not saying you need to keep the whole resource representation there. You just need the "link" for it. /profile/lnrdo (where lnrdo is the identifier).
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[23:13:57] <lnrdo> dashu: Let's say there is a link from lnrdo profile to get the list of channels I am logged in now.
[23:14:20] <lnrdo> So the URL would need to change to something like /profile/lrndo/channel/
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[23:14:30] <ngbot> [angular.js] matsko merged master into g3_v1_5: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/compare/13587193a56b...2cb1989d12f7
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[23:15:01] * lnrdo is a singular advocate while Spring Data Rest is a Plural advocate
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[23:15:05] <dashu> ah ok yeah i see what you meant
[23:15:19] <lnrdo> dashu: It is simple.
[23:15:59] <lnrdo> dashu: You'd be surprise how difficult is to get your team doing it all the time.
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[23:18:17] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: I like to use UUID represented in Base36 as Surrogate Keys if Natural Keys are not available.
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[23:18:44] <frostyfrog> Can I easily use angular in the case where JS may or may not be enabled?
[23:19:16] <skullcrasher> frostyfrog, I would say if JS is not enable you won't have a change to get it run
[23:19:16] <dashu> ive seen so much strange stuff done by inexperienced front end developers in the last 3 month that it is hard to surprise me :P.
[23:19:17] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: It will avoid some caveats with IndexedDB on some browsers.
[23:19:54] <lnrdo> frostyfrog: Yes, you can, you just need to support the <noscript> tag.
[23:20:07] <lnrdo> frostyfrog: It will also help your business :p
[23:20:08] <dashu> problem is i am new to all of this and i am pretty sure i am learning it wrong
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[23:21:01] <lnrdo> frostyfrog: Using AngularJS without <noscript> can lead to HUGE losses.
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[23:21:12] <frostyfrog> lnrdo: Doing this for personal stuff really. :P I would just like to use angular for a nice UI (instead of JQuery) and still be able to access the information from the commandline.
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[23:21:51] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, how do you get run angular without js enabled?
[23:22:25] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: you don't, but supporting <noscript> you graceful degrade
[23:22:26] <frostyfrog> skullcrasher: The idea is, you don't. You have to design the site in a way that it supports angular or no JS.
[23:22:34] <skullcrasher> lnrdo, or are you talking about some fallback that works without js (pure html)
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[23:22:40] <skullcrasher> ah you were faster :D
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[23:23:15] <lnrdo> skullcrasher: You still can use node to provide the noscript content
[23:23:26] <lnrdo> so you can make use of all template fragments.
[23:23:29] <BahamutWC|Work> Angular 1.x does not work well with those wanting to support users who disable javascript
[23:23:40] <BahamutWC|Work> you're better off using Angular 2 or React for that situation
[23:23:41] * frostyfrog is using Golang instead of node :p
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[23:24:08] <lnrdo> frostyfrog: Anylanguage, but using Node will help with template syntax.
[23:24:17] <frostyfrog> BahamutWC|Work: Thank you, I will look into those options. :)
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[23:24:28] <frostyfrog> lnrdo: But of course :)
[23:24:38] <lnrdo> frostyfrog: You also will make use of your Client Side Domain Objects
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[23:25:05] <dashu> would you use angular2 for a new project at the moment or is better to still use the stable 1.x at the moment and how hard is it to switch to angular2 ? i heard it is boring!
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[23:25:32] <lnrdo> dashu: If you are learning now, go with 2.
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[23:25:49] <lnrdo> dashu: If you have assets in 1, you'll need to balance.
[23:26:07] <lnrdo> Angular 2 appears to be better designed than Angular 1.
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[23:26:45] <dashu> yeah ive read that :o but it is still not stable and the docu isnt finished i think
[23:26:51] <lnrdo> dashu: Again, if you keep your application code as POJO, the upgrade will be easier.
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[23:27:03] <dashu> is it stable enough for productive use ?
[23:27:56] <lnrdo> dashu: If you can't read and understand some fancy source code you may stay with Angular 1.x and make use of all training and documentation available.
[23:28:03] <Rou> Angular 2 would be nice if you didn't have to install 8 trillion dependencies for every project
[23:28:10] <lnrdo> dashu: If you prefer to read source code than documentation....
[23:28:27] <Rou> It takes like an 8 hour NPM install just to start typing code
[23:28:36] <skullcrasher> ouch :D
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[23:28:52] <lnrdo> Rou: I guess it depends on your machine and connection...
[23:28:58] <dashu> hm
[23:29:05] <Rou> I'm exagerating
[23:29:09] <Rou> But it takes a lot longer than it should
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[23:29:27] <lnrdo> Rou: I think it is expected since it is not released yet.
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[23:30:50] <lnrdo> How can you create unit tests if your domain code is mixed with application infrastructure?
[23:30:58] <lnrdo> You just can't.
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[23:32:46] <lnrdo> So let's make use of Dependency Injection and do our work on JavaScript Objects that are integrated into AngularJS 1.x or 2.x or React or ... Express.
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[23:33:46] <lnrdo> The way a lot of people is using Angular just makes Dependency Injection/Inversion of Control useless.
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[23:34:52] <dashu> do you have a nice example angularpage that is interesting ?
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[23:36:42] <lnrdo> dashu: Not sure.
[23:36:48] <skullcrasher> dashu: Maybe https://github.com/angular/angular.js/wiki/JsFiddle-Examples
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[23:37:33] <skullcrasher> although looks like not latest angular version is used in the examples
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[23:38:41] <quangl> why not
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[23:40:35] <skullcrasher> this looks also neat http://www.angularjshub.com/
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[23:41:37] <lnrdo> The problem with any framework example is that people is focused on showing the features from the framework.
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[23:42:13] <quangl> how is that a problem?
[23:42:18] <lnrdo> And you should try to not couple your domain classes/objects with any framework.
[23:42:52] <skullcrasher> I think he talks about it's show which features it has, but not neccessarily how the features are used properly
[23:42:52] <lnrdo> quangl: Usually they include a lot of domain logic inside the application space.
[23:43:28] <quangl> what is domain logic vs application space?
[23:43:38] <lnrdo> quangl: I suppose it is easy to separate what is an Infrastructure Service, right?
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[23:44:38] <lnrdo> Example, if you need to send an email from any object, you'd not couple it to your current infrastructure, but instead would provide a "visitor" that can be used to send email.
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[23:45:21] <lnrdo> So you can provide an EmailSender to your object, and your object would dispatch itself to the EmailSender when an email needs to be sent.
[23:46:00] <lnrdo> This way, you can use your domain classes when no Email Service is available or, instead, you can send a Jabber Message.
[23:46:15] <quangl> and which part is the domain logic and which part is the application space?
[23:46:17] <lnrdo> On your containner.
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[23:46:42] <kegster> is there a way for ui-grid to handle a column that may be undefined on a particular row? IE some rows may not have a specific key in the array for that column
[23:46:47] <lnrdo> The same way you have Infrastructure Services, you also have Application Services.
[23:47:19] <kegster> maybe there's a default setting lemme look
[23:47:48] <lnrdo> Your Domain Logic should not be aware if a List is showed using a Table, a DT/DD or using ncurses.
[23:47:52] <quangl> and do u have domain services?
[23:48:01] <lnrdo> quangl: Sure
[23:48:11] <lnrdo> They are used to get Domain Objects.
[23:48:12] <quangl> why is everything a service?
[23:48:21] <lnrdo> Not everything is a service.
[23:48:22] <quangl> if everything is a service doesnt it make the word redundant?
[23:48:49] <quangl> so which part is aware of showing a list?  application service?
[23:48:49] <lnrdo> You have DomainServices and Domains.
[23:48:53] <quangl> wtf
[23:48:57] <lnrdo> The Application
[23:48:58] <quangl> whats the difference
[23:49:03] <quangl> application service?
[23:49:22] <lnrdo> Yes
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[23:49:25] <quangl> what does adding the word service to a layer mean?
[23:49:43] <quangl> i only really know webservices and windows service
[23:49:57] <lnrdo> Service usually means someone that helps your application getting something specific.
[23:50:12] <quangl> then what is api?
[23:50:19] <lnrdo> So you don't need to know, on your internals, how to do it.
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[23:50:33] <lnrdo> And this way you can replace the underlying mechanism.
[23:50:34] <quangl> isnt that just encapsulation
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[23:50:57] <lnrdo> quangl: It is more specific.
[23:51:30] <quangl> then what is an api?
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[23:51:45] <quangl> application service vs api
[23:51:51] <quangl> vs domain service
[23:51:53] <quangl> vs domain
[23:51:58] <quangl> vs ddl
[23:52:02] <lnrdo> Ex: If you put some calculation using attributes of a resource on some template snippet, for example.
[23:52:15] <lnrdo> quangl: DDD you mean?
[23:52:16] <quangl> vs repository
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[23:52:25] <lnrdo> A repository is a domain service
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[23:52:57] <lnrdo> Usually related to ORM
[23:52:58] <quangl> i mean dal
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[23:53:37] <quangl> what is a dal vs application service vs domain vs domain service vs windows service vs api
[23:53:47] <quangl> vs repository
[23:54:05] <quangl> i mean isnt it all just overlap with edge cases?
[23:54:08] <lnrdo> quangl: Are you trolling me, right?
[23:54:14] <quangl> not really
[23:54:19] <lnrdo> quangl: Fine
[23:54:23] <lnrdo> Got this feeling.
[23:54:24] <quangl> these are all real terms
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[23:54:36] <quangl> but i think they are baseically the same thing
[23:54:40] <quangl> with a minor difference
[23:55:17] <quangl> vs bll
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[23:55:42] <lnrdo> quangl: Yeah, that's the thing with being specialised: you use more specific vocabulary.
[23:56:26] <quangl> ya i mean i got all these different jobs and they talk all this jive but at the end of the day its just a repackage of lasagna spegetti
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[23:56:51] <lnrdo> That is why people who understands Rest keeps complaining about people who do not understand Rest calling JSON-RPC as Rest
[23:56:56] <quangl> web api vs mircoservces
[23:58:04] <lnrdo> quangl: Then I agree with you. There is a lot of devs that do use new words to describe/market what they have been doing, allegedly they are not evil, but ignorant.
[23:58:09] <quangl> which is better json-rpc or rest?
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[23:58:41] <lnrdo> quangl: For something that is specific for one application and will NEVER become part of a bigger environment?
[23:58:54] <quangl> ya
[23:59:00] <lnrdo> quangl: JSON-RPC is easier to design, implement and deploy.
[23:59:01] <quangl> thats a case
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[23:59:45] <quangl> yea seems like it
[23:59:59] <David______> I'm started learning Angular 2 a few hours ago. Now, I'm checking the Developer's Guide / Forms. There are the source files at end of the chapter. I would like to set it up, but I got 2 errors. 'Cannot read property 'Observable' of undefined' and 'ng' is undefined. I'm using the latest beta (2.0.0-beta.0 and/or .1) version. I wonder if you have some advice for me!

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