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[00:32:15] <icfantv> ilhami: huh? sorry.  did i miss something?
[00:32:35] <ilhami> icfantv, nah.. dude I was waiting for you with a question about stateParams but let's do that tomorrow/later
[00:32:38] <ilhami> good night. have to sleep.
[00:32:42] <icfantv> we just found out that one of our internal UIs is accessible from outside and isn't over https - so there's that
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[00:33:49] <ilhami> yeah fix that. :)
[00:33:51] <ilhami> have a good one
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[00:36:08] <icfantv> night
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[00:49:08] <Trev__> Is there any way to add another directive to an EXISTING element at run time?
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[00:49:21] <Trev__> $compile would require taking the element and recompiling all the existing directives
[00:49:45] <meLon> Hey guys. Is it possible to use $location.().search() to use POST vs GET?
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[01:02:33] <meekohi> maximski: I did this with https://github.com/lynndylanhurley/ng-token-auth and https://github.com/lynndylanhurley/devise_token_auth
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[01:02:42] <meekohi> It works quite nicely, although has some HTTP chit-chat overhead.
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[01:08:32] <maximski> meekohi thanks, gotta have a look on it
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[01:12:51] <meekohi> My ParentCtrl has a search field that ChildCtrl uses to filter results. How do I tell the ChildCtrl to do this? Currently the ChildCtrl has a $watch on $scope.filterOptions -- but some people online say this is bad?
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[01:14:28] <meekohi> I feel like I should use ng-change... but I don't have access to the ChildCtrl scope to tell it to refresh
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[02:05:35] <flappynerd> how do I run a scope function with https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngKeyup instead of just interpreting an expression?
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[02:06:48] <doc|work> flappynerd: you should be able to just do functionName()
[02:07:35] <flappynerd> doc|work, ok
[02:08:05] <doc|work> looking at the docs for ngClick it also reads "expression" and that can definitely do functionName()
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[02:09:28] <jalnt> <input ng-keyup="myFunction()"> should work
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[02:34:14] <freem|nd> hey guys, how do I access #&gid=1&pid=1 with ui-router
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[02:50:05] <gladely> howdy - does angular 1.x have a default unhandled error/rejection handler similar to bluebird?
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[03:19:14] <flappynerd> gladely, you'd need to specify what you're talking about
[03:19:18] <flappynerd> gladely, you mean like $http ?
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[03:20:31] <gladely> no, not $http, I can attach an interceptor for handling those rejections.  if you start a promise chain, say, through $q.when(function() { return {}; }).then(function(obj){ throw new Error('no one is listening'); }); -- is there any default facility to configure in $q to catch that error without attaching .catch and more boiler plate to every top level promise chain?
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[03:33:41] <ezio> i'm using ng router and i'm getting a bit stabby
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[03:34:25] <ezio> https://gist.github.com/bluebaroncanada/3f279854ff5dc2e341bf
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[03:34:45] <ezio> when i set ng-controller
[03:34:46] <ezio> it says
[03:34:57] <ezio> Error: [ng:areq] Argument 'ls' is not a function, got Object
[03:35:09] <ezio> why the heck can't i access this
[03:35:14] <ezio> grrrrrrrr
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[03:42:57] <ezio> i don't understand how this is not working
[03:43:02] <ezio> it's pulling up the right template
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[03:48:45] <ezio> WHAT THE GODDAMN FUCK
[03:49:39] <ezio> this just doesn't make any sense
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[03:51:17] <itvovantien> hello ?
[03:51:33] <ezio> it must be using the right controller
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[03:51:39] <ezio> it's pulling upt he template
[03:51:40] <fairuz> ezio: Why you put ng-controller="ls"?
[03:51:45] <fairuz> it's automatic
[03:51:50] <ezio> even without that
[03:51:52] <ezio> i get nothing
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[03:55:04] <ezio> fairuz, ls shows up, but it has no scope
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[03:55:09] <ezio> nothing from in the scope is there
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[03:55:39] <ezio> JSON.stringify( angular.element($0).scope().ls)
[03:55:39] <ezio> "{}"
[03:55:39] <ezio> JSON.stringify( angular.element($0).scope().lsf)3
[03:55:56] <ezio> oops sorry thought i only copied two
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[03:56:57] <ezio> ls is just empty
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[03:59:04] <ezio> if i use this.abc = "def"
[03:59:11] <ezio> i get ls.abc = "def"
[03:59:35] <ezio> why wouldn't $scope work
[03:59:45] <ezio> this is exactly what ui-router says to do on it's page
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[04:13:58] <ezio> fairuz, $scope = {}; <---that was the problem
[04:14:00] <ezio> don't ask me why
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[04:23:35] <zomg> ezio: scope is an object with some functions etc. so replacing it with a normal object probably would cause problems
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[04:24:34] <ezio> yeah i figured that out.  i'm a dummy
[04:24:37] <ezio> thanks everyone
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[05:01:51] <frege> hey guys
[05:02:03] <frege> I need to get an angularjs project up and running in 1hr
[05:02:19] <frege> it must have a simple list and search
[05:02:39] <frege> however I want to have the right project structure
[05:02:47] <frege> could someone help me with that?
[05:03:24] <timothy-michael> you could use yeoman to scaffold your project structure
[05:03:48] <frege> timothy-michael: could you tell me how or show me an article that says how step by step?
[05:04:23] <timothy-michael> npm install -g yo
[05:04:25] <zomg> frege: if your project is that simple, here's what to do
[05:04:35] <zomg> mkdir src; mkdir lib
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[05:04:39] <zomg> put your source code in src
[05:04:43] <zomg> and external libs in lib
[05:04:44] <zomg> done
[05:04:45] <zomg> :P
[05:04:45] <frege> it will not stay that simple
[05:05:06] <frege> I want to have the correct structure in place so later I can add plugins, etc.
[05:05:18] <timothy-michael> https://github.com/yeoman/generator-angular
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[05:05:43] <zomg> timothy-michael's suggestion is probably a decent choice if you need something more complex
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[05:06:10] <timothy-michael> yeah it has been awhile since i've used it, but it'll definitely lay it out in a logical way
[05:06:11] <frege> thanks
[05:06:13] <frege> I will follow
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[05:06:34] <timothy-michael> then controller+ng-repeat for your list
[05:06:51] <timothy-michael> (i'm new also)
[05:07:14] <timothy-michael> as for search - don't know of any simple solutions
[05:08:37] <timothy-michael> other than mysql+queries
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[05:11:44] <cyan__> for search use filters
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[05:12:58] <cyan__> simply create a ng model with list structure, it can be an array of objects or strings, thenn show with ng-repeat and use filter, to filter some data type "view ng-repeat filter angularjs"
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[05:15:09] <frege> cyan__: I responded to your pm. not sure if you received it
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[06:02:56] <ish> does ng2/rxjs have something like $q.when for something that may or may not be an obersvable?
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[07:29:53] <fullstack> How would you setup QA Deployment (Post jenkins pass, git merge master)?
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[07:50:11] <ABHI> can anyone tell me what is rest client api
[07:50:39] <ABHI> and how to use it in angular js please
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[08:22:27] <bharath__> how to run the angularjs project without any serve, i mean using any editor?
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[08:48:11] <AlecTaylor> hi
[08:48:42] <AlecTaylor> ui-router fails to transition between states. Made a simple test-case: https://plnkr.co/edit/9u7Np8RSGsQJvIvanB13
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[08:58:04] <esko_> hi guys can someone help me with what i should track by on an array with mixed objects? eg: [{'exp': 'AQUA', 'args': ['EUYE', 4, 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ']}]
[08:58:29] <esko_> for ng-repeat
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[09:22:00] <AlecTaylor> ui-router fails to transition between states. Made a simple test-case: https://plnkr.co/edit/9u7Np8RSGsQJvIvanB13
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[09:55:28] <G1eb> lmao https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/bdfc9c02d021e08babfbc966a007c71b4946d69d
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[10:28:37] <Bish> i want to wakeup in the ciiiittty that never sleeeeps
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[10:28:46] <Bish> oh sorry.
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[10:34:08] <stuartm> AlecTaylor: "auth" is false, it's never set to true?
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[10:34:30] <AlecTaylor> stuartm: This is just a test case, I have an Auth service and all that stuff also
[10:34:33] <stuartm> hence "if (auth &&" always returns false
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[10:35:01] <stuartm> AlecTaylor: right, but the point of a test case is to show the problem and if the test-case itself doesn't actually work ...
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[10:36:50] <AlecTaylor> stuartm: The test case itself does fail to redirect to login when auth=false and state=profile
[10:37:04] <AlecTaylor> Yes, auth will always be false, so it should always go to login then
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[10:37:40] <stuartm> yep, and it gets stuck in a loop and ultimately has to be killed :)
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[10:40:08] <stuartm> I don't think you want to use stateChangeStart here - $state.go() triggers $stateChangeStart, which triggers $state.go() and it will never end?
[10:40:50] <AlecTaylor> stuartm: Shouldn't my `if (!$state.is(state)) {` do something?
[10:41:16] <stuartm> not if the $stateChangeStart event is fired before the state actually changes
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[10:41:56] <AlecTaylor> Oh
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[10:43:05] <stuartm> I usually hate this question myself, but what are you trying to achieve - automatic redirect to login if the user requests the profile page but isn't logged in?
[10:43:16] <AlecTaylor> `$stateChangeSuccess`?
[10:43:29] <AlecTaylor> stuartm: Yes and vice-versa
[10:44:04] <AlecTaylor> stuartm: If user hits /login and is logged in, redirect to /profile. If user hits /profile and isn't logged in, redirect to /login.
[10:45:09] <stuartm> try checking 'next' in the event handle before calling transitionTo
[10:45:20] <AlecTaylor> I do
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[10:45:38] <AlecTaylor> stuartm: Oh, you mean in the else also?
[10:45:39] <stuartm> if (next !== 'login') transitionTo('login')
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[10:45:46] <stuartm> right
[10:45:56] <AlecTaylor> next.name
[10:46:07] <AlecTaylor> Okay, will give that a shot
[10:46:15] <stuartm> right, was an abbreviated example :)
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[10:46:56] <AlecTaylor> Nope, same error => https://plnkr.co/edit/9u7Np8RSGsQJvIvanB13
[10:47:24] <AlecTaylor> stuartm ^
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[10:49:54] <stuartm> actually error is a little different this time, at least on my end - it's now trying to change to the login state which it wasn't before, but is failing because it can't find the template
[10:50:28] <AlecTaylor> templateUrl => template
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[10:50:46] <AlecTaylor> https://plnkr.co/edit/9u7Np8RSGsQJvIvanB13
[10:51:15] <stuartm> in the plnkr change that to template: '<h1>Test</h1>'
[10:51:18] <stuartm> and it works here
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[10:52:15] <stuartm> since the template isn't local to the plunkr, templateUrl fails here, would work on a real server so login as the template with filename 'login' existed
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[10:52:32] <stuartm> should probably be login.html or login.tmpl but that's another matter
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[10:53:19] <AlecTaylor> Nah, it was just a hurried test-case, still had the templateUrl from my actual code
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[10:53:40] <AlecTaylor> Anyway, couldn't get it to work in plnkr in Chrome, so extracted the files of my latest saved plnkr and ran it locally
[10:53:42] <AlecTaylor> It works ^_^
[10:53:43] <AlecTaylor> Thanks
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[11:01:27] <stuartm> np
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[11:58:20] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vuMHI
[11:58:21] <ngbot> angular.js/master 98c2db7 Georgios Kalpakas: fix(linky): throw error if input is not a string...
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[12:22:17] <marcgp> hi!
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[12:26:07] <marcgp> i've been reading a lot about the ui.router views and i can't seem to get it to work. i'd like to create partial views within a route to make small controllers for each part... let's see: http://pastebin.com/PkK6invq this works (it shows index.html all the way to game.planet.tpl.html) but when i try to split this game.planet.tpl.html into parts lik
[12:26:07] <marcgp> e this:  http://pastebin.com/WHMRkKjR it just breaks and I only see what's in the index.html (so not even the first ui-view gets filled)
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[12:30:58] <marcgp> nvm
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[12:41:34] <Keksike> I get this wierd error with my angular-ui-datepickers, don't know what to do. https://gist.github.com/Keksike/b68c7937738678457e9e
[12:42:02] <Keksike> and this interestingly only happens on my staging server, not on local development. The staging server has the exact same version as my development though
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[12:45:51] <hellyeah> hey there
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[12:45:57] <hellyeah> i am new on business
[12:45:58] <Mo0O> Keksike: controller.$validators is undefined
[12:46:08] <Mo0O> hi hellyeah
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[12:47:26] <hellyeah> what do i need to do for learning angularjs
[12:47:28] <hellyeah> ?
[12:47:33] <Keksike> Mo0O: but thats angular code o.o
[12:47:37] <hellyeah> any vids tutorial available?
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[12:48:12] <Keksike> the whole date.js is angular-date code
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[12:48:55] <Mo0O> Keksike: I guess you minifying your code for production
[12:49:37] <hellyeah> can i use jquery while writing angularjs code?
[12:49:49] <Mo0O> hellyeah: yes indeed ;)
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[12:50:02] <Mo0O> and all other js goodies
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[12:50:26] <Keksike> Mo0O: actually the funny thing is that it bugs only on the staging, where we dont minify code. In production it works just fine
[12:50:41] <Keksike> and in our local development it works just fine
[12:50:59] <Mo0O> wierd
[12:51:00] <hellyeah> what is the benefit of writing angularJS at first place?
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[12:52:06] <Mo0O> hellyeah: modules, controllers, factories, directives…
[12:52:26] <Mo0O> the last one is my favorite one
[12:52:43] <proid> hello why the javascript doc version is a shit?!?!? is angular 2 only for typescript developers??
[12:53:10] <Mo0O> proid: 'cause javascript™ is a shit ;)
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[12:53:55] <proid> is a problem for 99% web developer.... for 100% of developer tha hate microsoft
[12:54:28] <hellyeah> microsoft is awesome
[12:54:44] <hellyeah> years and years they try to do something shitty
[12:54:49] * Mo0O don't see the relation between M$ and JS
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[12:55:09] <Mo0O> proid: go developing native application ;)
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[12:55:33] <Mo0O> css and javascrit are trap, but it's off topic
[12:55:49] <Mo0O> s/javascrit/javascript™/
[12:56:03] <hellyeah> why it is trap
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[12:56:14] <hellyeah> do we have any other option?
[12:56:23] <Mo0O> opengl… coming soon
[12:56:33] <Mo0O> s/opengl/webgl/
[12:56:36] <hellyeah> opengl is graphics right?
[12:56:40] <Keksike> what
[12:56:44] <Keksike> how is webgl related to this
[12:56:44] <Mo0O> yeah
[12:56:46] <hellyeah> hmm they write browser engine?
[12:57:05] <Keksike> and whats wrong with javascript and css :D
[12:57:11] <Keksike> are you guys high
[12:57:13] <Mo0O> btw, you need js with webgl
[12:57:25] <hellyeah> i didnt say anything
[12:57:32] <Keksike> ofcourse u need js with webgl
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[12:58:05] <hellyeah> i dont know what webgl is
[12:58:14] <Keksike> web graphics library
[12:58:17] <Mo0O> Keksike: yeah, I'm just trolling :D
[12:58:31] <Keksike> http://threejs.org/
[12:58:45] <Mo0O> hellyeah: one that talk directly to your GPU, not your CPU
[12:58:59] <hellyeah> GPU seems good
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[12:59:11] <hellyeah> i suppose in nature of js GPU is used
[13:00:40] <Mo0O> realy oO
[13:00:47] <Mo0O> xD
[13:01:38] <Keksike> I get this wierd error with my angular-ui-datepickers, don't know what to do. https://gist.github.com/Keksike/b68c7937738678457e9e
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[13:04:22] <Mo0O> Keksike: this error is explicit, debug your controller to find out what's different on your staging env, looks you `controller` variable is not what you think on staging
[13:05:36] <Mo0O> Keksike: btw a plunker with this error could be usefull to help you
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[13:06:29] <Keksike> a plunker?
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[13:06:59] <Mo0O> Keksike: https://plnkr.co/
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[13:08:04] <proid> where is the tutorial for javascript??? is present only in the typescript version
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[13:08:57] <Mo0O> proid: angular2 is still in beta, no?
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[13:09:43] <proid> ok but why in beta are typescript tutorial and no javascript version?
[13:09:46] <Mo0O> https://splintercode.github.io/is-angular-2-ready/
[13:09:47] <proid> have
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[13:12:46] <Mo0O> proid: https://angular.io/docs/js/latest/quickstart.html this is a js tutorial, not? and an official one
[13:13:14] <proid> is 5 mins quickstart... no tutorial chapter
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[13:14:23] <Mo0O> proid: what did you expect?
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[13:15:10] <Mo0O> proid: a developer guide? https://angular.io/docs/js/latest/guide/
[13:15:30] <proid> the same doc items in javascript :) is a strangequestion?
[13:15:31] <Mo0O> or maybe an API preview? https://angular.io/docs/js/latest/api/
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[13:16:06] <Mo0O> can't you see the menu to switch the language?
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[13:16:24] <Mo0O> just under the h1 title
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[13:18:34] * Mo0O guess he see the dropdown menu :)
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[13:28:26] <ngbot> angular.js/master feeb197 Martin Staffa: refactor(loader): move component definition code to the `$compileProvider`...
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[13:46:08] <mordziasty> Hello guyz, do you know that is there any estimate for Angular JS 2.0 release date?
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[13:47:20] <mordziasty> Is there any estimate for Angular JS 2.0 release date?
[13:48:31] <tangorri> between now and 3 months
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[13:49:53] <mordziasty> tangorri, where did u get the information about that ?
[13:50:02] <tangorri> just kidding mordziasty
[13:50:18] <mordziasty> aaaa, all right :P
[13:50:21] <tangorri> :]
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[13:50:34] <Mo0O> mordziasty: https://splintercode.github.io/is-angular-2-ready/
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[13:51:45] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vuDcV
[13:51:45] <ngbot> angular.js/master 16ccac9 Peter Bacon Darwin: test($compile): fix component helper test...
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[14:10:15] <pbxman> hello
[14:10:59] <Mo0O> hi
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[14:35:13] <pbxman> I'm new to angularJS. do you think using jquery with angular is a bad practice?
[14:35:25] <icebox> pbxman: yes
[14:35:46] <icebox> pbxman: they are two different tools for different scenarios
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[14:37:19] <Guest49281> yo angular's gulp not adding bower_components
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[14:38:32] <tejas> ok
[14:39:02] <Guest49281> anyone...???
[14:39:17] <tejas> yes
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[14:39:30] <tejas> yes
[14:39:45] <Guest49281> do u know y gulp not adding bower_componnent
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[14:40:07] <tejas> nope
[14:40:12] <Guest49281> i am using yo man angular generator
[14:40:33] <tejas> okay no prob
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[14:40:51] <Guest49281> can i send u pastebin link
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[14:41:00] <tejas> okay sure
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[14:43:55] <Guest49281> http://pastebin.com/WEF20VHF
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[14:54:17] <Agilities> hey, how do you guys save the authentication session id in SPAs? is it a cookie, or sessionStorage, or what?
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[15:05:46] <ycon_> Hi all, I'm using ng-repeat="store in stores track by $index" ng-if="$index%2==0" to show my images in a grid. But its' behaving wierdly... What is the $index%2==0 actually doing?
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[15:07:17] <icebox> ycon_: try it in the console giving arbitrary values to $index
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[15:08:34] <icebox> ycon_: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/Arithmetic_Operators#Remainder
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[15:10:14] <ycon_> icebox: oh I see what it does! Am I doing something wrong with the CSS here? It seems to randomnly resize a div ... http://stashdapp.com/azure/ios/www/index.html#/stores
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[15:10:39] <nephro> Hi. using ng-repeat over an object like this <li ng-repeat="(id, item) in items | orderBy: '-item.priority'">. Ordering doesn't not work for some reason, can you help me out please?
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[15:11:10] <ycon_> icebox: as in, all 8 images should, with 2 images per row. For some reason, it has put the 5th & 8th images on a single line alone
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[15:21:27] <icebox> nephro: http://plnkr.co/edit/qQMsZwY9ApVDeCdaWcM5?p=preview
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[15:22:28] <icebox> nephro: ng-repeat="(id, item) in foo.bars | orderBy: '-obj.priority'"> where obj is the object referred to foo.bars as item
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[15:25:28] <icebox> nephro: you need the real name of the property and not the local variable... hope that helps
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[15:28:49] <kegster> anyone use "angular-client-side-auth" with ui-router or any other auth management that integrates with ui-router?
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[15:29:27] <kegster> i'm looking for just basic auth, not integrating services like fb, google, etc.
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[15:29:44] <kegster> trying to figure out ui-routes with auth to see how it would play in my sample app lol
[15:29:56] <kegster> didn't know if there was some goto ui-router auth integration
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[15:31:32] <randomdoude> you can just use a simple 'auth' factory that all the needed data and exposes a isLoggedIn function for example
[15:31:50] <randomdoude> then you can use that function in ui-routers onEnter for 'protected' states
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[15:32:22] <randomdoude> I dont think there is any 'standard way' of integrating ui-router with authentication in general but I might be wrong
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[15:32:43] <icebox> I second randomdoude... for instance http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22537311/angular-ui-router-login-authentication
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[15:38:28] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vuDdU
[15:38:28] <ngbot> angular.js/master f31c5a3 Shahar Talmi: feat(component): disallow non-isolate scopes...
[15:38:28] <ngbot> angular.js/master d91cf16 Shahar Talmi: feat(component): default controllerAs to be $ctrl...
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[15:41:22] <icebox> ^ this commit is important in angular 2... $ctrl is the default name of the controller in the template
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[15:44:56] <icebox> sorry, I mean in angular.component() (angular 1 - 1.5.0.rc)
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[15:48:24] <randomdoude> How close to a 1.5 release are we?
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[15:51:02] <icebox> randomdoude: rc.1 i son the way
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[15:51:15] <kegster> randomdoude, interesting
[15:51:36] <kegster> they are using a .factory() because they are returning data?
[15:51:43] <kegster> i need to read up more on factory vs service lol
[15:52:11] <randomdoude> icebox, good to hear! Judging by the # of open issues considered bugs we should be pretty close.
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[15:53:12] <icebox> randomdoude: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/milestones/1.5.0-rc.1
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[15:53:37] <randomdoude> icebox, thank you
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[15:56:55] <josuebc> Hi there. I created a filebrowser directive. I would like to use the $router provider so when a user is browsing files the URL will reflect where he is and to deep link into a specific folder.
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[15:57:44] <josuebc> The thing is that the entire thing only uses one controller and one view. Is $router the best way to go or shoudl I just do my own URL handling and create an initializator that looks into the URL and figures out where to open up?
[15:58:24] <icebox> josuebc: for nested and multiple views the standard de facto is ui router (vs. ngRoute)
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[16:00:08] <josuebc> icebox: Yeah, but that's the thing is not really multiple views. Just the content changes, not so much the entire template. I mean, basically I would have just one route like 'filebrowser/:path' and handle it in the controller
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[16:00:47] <icebox> josuebc: routing (and his component) is the way
[16:01:07] <josuebc> Alright, thanks!
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[16:04:27] <nephro> icebox, I have a different format of data: { 1: { priority : 4}, 2: { priority:1}}
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[16:05:27] <icebox> nephro: up to you as exercise :)
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[16:06:05] <icebox> nephro: "...in items..." items should be an array
[16:06:19] <nephro> icebox, well, the problem is that there is like no feedback. I wrote a getter function and passed it to the orderBy but it never got called
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[16:07:52] <spyshiv> how to share a function between two controllers using services??? does anyone has jsfiddle or plunker as example?? please reply
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[16:17:20] <icebox> spyshiv: sure...
[16:17:42] <icebox> spyshiv: How to share data between controllers http://plnkr.co/edit/41xY057yPIuKgBEyq0hW?p=preview
[16:18:48] <ycon_> Hi all, can I not defined a $stateParam in a var? This isn't working for me... var product_id = $stateParams.id;
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[16:20:51] <icebox> ycon_: https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/wiki/url-routing#important-stateparams-gotcha
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[16:22:51] <kegster> so are promises used for instances when you want something to complete before moving on, rather than having node push everything at once?
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[16:23:39] <ycon_> icebox: I'm not following what those docs mean. So I can't define a $stateParam in my route?
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[16:24:20] <icebox> ycon_: please, read again the docs
[16:24:51] <metame> kegster: promises can be used for anything async, typically ajax/http calls
[16:25:05] <metame> kegster: at least that's one of the main use cases
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[16:25:25] <icebox> ycon_: ("this isn't working" doesn't mean anything and showing one line without context doesn't help you) :)
[16:25:39] <metame> kegster: so it's kind of the opposite of what you said.
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[16:26:02] <metame> kegster: use a promise when you want to move on without having to wait for something (i.e. data) to be returned
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[16:28:47] <ycon_> icebox: Oh yes- my bad. Here's some context- http://dpaste.com/0R58191
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[16:31:09] <icebox> ycon_: missing the error (I suppose you cannot find "id") and missing the most important thing, the routes... because, as you know reading the docs, In state controllers, the $stateParams object will only contain the params that were registered with that state. So you will not see params registered on other states, including ancestors.
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[16:35:18] <lmk> hi all
[16:35:19] <lmk> !!
[16:35:29] <lmk> who is here?
[16:35:35] <kegster> metame, well if i do var foo = bar(); and if(foo) {} -- what if bar() takes a minute, it moves on without waiting correct?
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[16:36:07] <lmk> hii!!
[16:36:29] <lmk> pls, somebody can help me with my problem?
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[16:36:40] <metame> kegster: depends on if it's a sync fn or not
[16:36:47] <icebox> lmk: don't ask to ask
[16:37:12] <lmk> i would like to get data from my wamp local server
[16:37:21] <lmk> how can i do?
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[16:37:26] <enlightenmental_> howdy, If I'm using promises.push(serviceCall()) how to I return those promises and actually use the data within?
[16:37:30] <kegster> how do you define an a sync fn or not? maybe i'm missing out on something
[16:37:41] <metame> kegster: what is bar() doing?
[16:37:50] <icebox> enlightenmental_: .all
[16:38:20] <lmk> ummm
[16:38:24] <enlightenmental_> $q.all(promises1, promises2).then(function() { how do I put this promise data back to my object })
[16:38:24] <kegster> metame, making an http request. so i imagine this would be sync
[16:38:29] <icebox> kegster: the syntax is different... bar().then(function(response) { foo = response; });
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[16:38:33] <kegster> so what the function DOES is what defines it a sync or not
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[16:38:38] <kegster> not how you create the function
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[16:39:19] <ycon_> icebox: Thx, I forget I'd set it on my routes.
[16:39:26] <metame> kegster: well the underlying implementation is what determines if it's async
[16:39:36] <icebox> ycon_: you are welcome... nice catch
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[16:40:08] <metame> kegster: as in the $http service (and just about any ajax implementation) is async
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[16:40:35] <icebox> enlightenmental_: ...then(function(collectedData) { ... })
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[16:40:51] <lmk> heyy somebody hear me?
[16:41:05] <kegster> metame, ahh ok
[16:41:13] <icebox> lmk: sure... but it is very general question
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[16:41:16] <metame> kegster: you can also manually define a promise with the es6 Promise api
[16:41:31] <metame> mdn: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Promise
[16:41:50] <lmk> icebox,do u want me to explain more?
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[16:42:25] <icebox> lmk: sure... if are asking how to connect a frontend with the backend :)
[16:42:38] <icebox> lmk: *you are asking...
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[16:43:04] <icebox> lmk: what is your try and what is your specific issue?
[16:43:11] <lmk> ok,i see
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[16:43:45] <icebox> lmk: (I would reply... with a pidgeon) :)
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[16:44:21] <enlightenmental_> icebox, mind peaking at this re: $q.all ?
[16:44:23] <enlightenmental_> http://collabedit.com/b6aca
[16:44:55] <lmk>  so,icebox, how to get data from a localhost http server such as wampserver
[16:44:56] <lmk> ?
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[16:45:10] <icebox> enlightenmental_: no, sorry... no time
[16:45:15] <ycon_> Hi all, if I've put something in a scope, do I sipmly refere to it in html as <h1>{{myscope}}</h1>?
[16:45:25] <lmk> hum,ok
[16:45:51] <icebox> lmk: same as before... if I reply, using a ajax call, do you know how to implement it?
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[16:46:08] <icebox> ycon_: generally speaking, yes
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[16:46:33] <icebox> ycon_: $scope.foo = "hello"... {{ foo }}
[16:46:54] <lmk> icebox, the problem is the ajax call works with online pages
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[16:47:05] <lmk> but not with the local ones
[16:47:06] <ycon_> icebox: like this? var test1 = $scope.store_logo;
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[16:47:10] <icebox> lmk: I am afraid I don't follow here
[16:47:18] <icebox> ycon_: no
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[16:47:44] <icebox> ycon_: we are in a controller, right?
[16:47:54] <ycon_> yep
[16:48:23] <lmk> icebox: ok. here is my function <.controller('testCtrl', function($scope, $http) {     $http.get("http://127.0.0.1/ifaso/index.php")     .then(function(response) {$scope.categories = response;}); })>
[16:49:04] <icebox> ycon_: so we have something like .controller(function ($scope) { $scope.foo = "hello"; });
[16:49:16] <lmk> icebox: if replace the local url by other one witch is online,it works
[16:49:27] <icebox> ycon_: see the main page for a basic example
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[16:50:03] <icebox> lmk: ok... you need to start a web server listening on 127.0.0.1
[16:50:23] <lmk> icebox:it's done
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[16:50:41] <icebox> lmk: nice
[16:50:57] <lmk> icebox:am using it on the web browser
[16:51:25] <icebox> lmk: but be aware... what is your goal with "http://127.0.0.1/ifaso/index.php"?
[16:51:43] <icebox> lmk: that call read that document and returns the text
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[16:52:41] <lmk> icebox:it's a php page executing SQL statements and returning  JSON data
[16:53:25] <icebox> lmk: it doesn't work in that way
[16:53:46] <lmk> icebox:ok,am listening
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[16:54:00] <icebox> lmk: you need to develop a backend publishing an api returning json
[16:54:35] <lmk> icebox:an example pls
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[16:54:46] <icebox> lmk: no... googling is your friend
[16:55:00] <lmk> icebox:lol
[16:55:07] <lmk> ok,thanks
[16:55:17] <ycon_> icebox: I get that part- but I'm trying to debug what the data isnt there. I'm using $scope.store_logo =[]; then console.debug("Scope" + store_logo)
[16:55:18] <icebox> lmk: did you call this from a browser? http://127.0.0.1/ifaso/index.php
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[16:55:32] <lmk> icebox:am doing it . yes i called it
[16:55:50] <icebox> lmk: does it return text, html or a json? (check in devtools / network tab)
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[16:56:10] <lmk> icebox:and i got the json data but in a html form
[16:56:17] <lmk> icebox:html format
[16:56:22] <icebox> lmk: that is the problem :)
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[16:57:16] <icebox> lmk: I beg your pardon, but your best try is googling :) there are many examples
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[16:57:28] <lmk> okk
[16:57:30] <lmk> icebox:how can i change the return text format?
[16:57:50] <lmk> icebox:okk. no matter.thank u very much
[16:57:51] <icebox> lmk: it depends on backend... (setting headers
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[16:58:26] <icebox> ycon_: ok... but what is the issue?
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[16:58:57] <ycon_> Have I done the console.debug correct? It just breaks my js and dosnt give me an error of any wort
[16:59:00] <ycon_> *sort
[16:59:12] <icebox> ycon_: never used console.debug :)
[16:59:22] <ycon_> console.log too
[16:59:48] <icebox> ycon_: take a breath... :) I need to go... see you later
[17:00:01] <ycon_> ciao
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[17:00:31] <icebox> off
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[17:01:22] <metame> ycon_: is store_logo defined as a var or just in scope?
[17:01:33] <ycon_> just scope
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[17:04:56] <ycon_> metame: maybe stateParams is better. I'm using var stores_id = $stateParams.store_id; which works fine
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[17:05:46] <ycon_> metame: but when I try to use this one (right after- var storelogo1 = $scope.store_logo;) it breaks but doesn't give a syntax/other error
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[17:06:19] <oaulakh> why my click me button not showing list? http://plnkr.co/edit/TC24eSRldVIkbpskMTdy
[17:07:28] <batch4225> hey guys, do you know what the best approach is for a field to only accept positive integers?
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[17:07:52] <batch4225> so that if a user was to try to type a negative number "-2" the minus would just get removed
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[17:08:17] <batch4225> kind of like a formatter, i have done something similar with phone numbers
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[17:08:30] <oaulakh> if user value is x and u should add 2x simple way
[17:08:46] <batch4225> where they start to enter and as they do it changes 1234567891 to (123) 456-7891
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[17:09:39] <batch4225> oaulakh are you talking to me?
[17:09:49] <oaulakh> yup
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[17:10:12] <batch4225> i don't understand if x=-2 and i add 2x how does that help?
[17:10:42] <Poeticode> Or just Math.abs()
[17:11:03] <oaulakh> batch4225, means i am just learning and as you said if user value of some variable x less than 0 than multiple x to 2 and add to x to get positive number, but maybe they have some formatting stuff in too
[17:11:03] <batch4225> but will it be bound? so that when they enter the minus sign it goes away?
[17:11:32] <Poeticode> With a directive, you could have it Math.abs() in the onchange event
[17:11:37] <oaulakh> yup absolute is what you want |x| = Math.abs()
[17:11:50] <batch4225> for phone number i had to create a filter
[17:12:01] <batch4225> are you saying i should create a filter that contains that logic?
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[17:12:09] <oaulakh> batch4225, yes
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[17:12:24] <batch4225> i see
[17:12:28] <batch4225> thank you
[17:13:09] <oaulakh> batch4225, and yes if x is less than 0 than simple multiply it with -1, that will solve your problem too :)
[17:13:52] <oaulakh> http://plnkr.co/edit/TC24eSRldVIkbpskMTdy anyone know why my click me button not working
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[17:16:31] <oaulakh> anyone here?
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[17:17:27] <batch4225> sorry i am trying what you suggested
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[17:18:25] <oaulakh> batch4225, i'm not saying you, i am just looking if someone can suggest me why my click me button not working http://plnkr.co/edit/TC24eSRldVIkbpskMTdy
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[17:28:22] <batch4225> it looks like your if statement inside of the click is wrong
[17:28:27] <batch4225> it is expecting a colon
[17:29:54] <batch4225> sorry not in the click in the ul
[17:30:15] <oaulakh> ok let me see
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[17:30:59] <batch4225> are you trying to use css to hide things?
[17:31:11] <batch4225> you could just use ng-hide
[17:31:24] <batch4225> or ng-show
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[17:32:43] <tuomasi> Hey guys, was wondering if anybody knows when the official docs will be updated regarding the http functionality? As of now they're all over the place version-wise. Or does anybody know when the next official tutorial chapters will be published?
[17:32:58] <tuomasi> (talking about angular2)
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[17:34:02] <oaulakh> batch4225, no but i want to learn ng-click thing first and i dunno why my code is still wrong
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[17:35:05] <oaulakh> ng-if is easy placement and ng-show and hide too but still why my click thing is not working i want to see where i am wrong at least i will learn something
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[17:37:21] <batch4225> sorry about that i lost my connection
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[17:37:33] <batch4225> are you still there?
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[17:37:57] <batch4225> help log
[17:38:00] <batch4225> log
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[17:39:06] <batch4225> there was someone here looking for help with ng-click, if you come back ping me
[17:39:15] <batch4225> i lost connection so i could not respond in time
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[17:39:41] <oaulakh> yes
[17:39:42] <dnrn> Hi I am new to Angular2 and need a bit of guidens. I am playing around with the mean stack, but when I install Angular2 from npm, I don't like to make node_modules public. What is a good work around?
[17:39:44] <tuomasi> anyone able to point to a running example of making an http request with angular2?
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[17:40:26] <oaulakh> batch4225, yes? can you find where i am doing wrong?
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[17:41:02] <batch4225> hey oaulakh, so i think a good start would be to get the ng-click to do something anything right?
[17:41:14] <oaulakh> yes :)
[17:41:18] <batch4225> so try creating a function and have the ng-click execute that function
[17:41:25] <batch4225> i usually start with a console.log
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[17:42:04] <batch4225> so you would write something like $scope.myClick = function(){ console.log('my click button has been pressed'); }
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[17:43:10] <oaulakh> i dunno what console.log is, i don't have any experience in java or anything, i only know python,meansi do know that console.log will show pop up windows if i am not wrong but still i have no experience in javascript sorry, i am watching these tutorials to learn angularjs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDqGfrnutug&list=PLLnpHn493BHF6utwkwpo7RN-GPg1sZhvK&index=10
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[17:43:23] <batch4225> oh
[17:43:38] <batch4225> um...console.log is a way to print information in the console of your inspector
[17:43:55] <oaulakh> ohhh ok let me see than
[17:44:03] <batch4225> so if you are using chrome you can hit F12 or on mac you can hit command shift i
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[17:44:11] <batch4225> and in there you have a console view
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[17:44:39] <batch4225> you should def familiarize yourself with the console as it is essential for trouble shooting your code, especially in angular
[17:44:54] <batch4225> right now your code is throwing an error for that if statement
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[17:45:18] <batch4225> but i think you should step back and try creating a function, and you may want to switch from using "this" to using $scope
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[17:45:39] <oaulakh> ok
[17:45:51] <batch4225> this will require changing the code a bit, but it is a best practice to use scope so that you can maintain your code and variables properly
[17:45:56] <Poeticode> Another angular-newcomer mistake is to debug with the minified version of angular. Make sure to use the regular angular.js when developing, otherwise your error logs will be super cryptic
[17:46:08] <batch4225> +1
[17:46:09] <oaulakh> i thought $scope i can interchange it with me variable
[17:46:35] <oaulakh> hahahhahahha
[17:46:37] <oaulakh> ok
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[17:47:01] <oaulakh> thanks, from now no minified version until i get good grasp
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[17:50:14] <oaulakh> batch4225, can you fix my if than i can see where i am wrong?
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[17:57:30] <icfantv> Hey all, we just released Angular UI Bootstrap 1.0.
[17:57:39] <icfantv> go have fun
[17:58:16] <icfantv> you will need angular 1.4+
[17:58:21] <francescu> icfantv: congratz
[17:58:44] <francescu> any release notes available?
[17:58:59] <icfantv> heh.  yes.  github repo
[17:59:03] <metame> icfantv: nice. was looking forward to it
[17:59:07] <icfantv> be sure to look at the changelog
[17:59:13] <icfantv> especially the BREAKING CHANGES section
[17:59:28] <batch4225> oaulakh here you go
[17:59:30] <batch4225> http://plnkr.co/edit/pHjLGtlNMqQP6I4SWXfo?p=preview
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[17:59:39] <batch4225> you don't need an if at all, if you click you can just change the class
[17:59:45] <batch4225> i do not recommend this method at all
[17:59:46] <icfantv> all the deprecated directives have been removed which means no only will you not get any warning messages in your console, none of your UIBS directives will work anymore
[18:00:20] <batch4225> you should be using a function inside of the click and you should be using ng-hide or ng-show depending on how you want it to work
[18:00:31] <batch4225> you should keep the logic out of the view
[18:00:41] <batch4225> you should also be using scope instead of this
[18:01:17] <batch4225> i can not get in to why i have to head out for a meeting but this should give you more information on when and why it is good to use one method vs another
[18:01:19] <batch4225> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11605917/this-vs-scope-in-angularjs-controllers
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[18:02:16] <batch4225> keep working at it, its not easy to wrap your head around it at first but once you figure it out angular is amazing, powerful, quick, etc
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[18:03:29] <BahamutW_> UI Bootstrap 1.0 is released
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[18:04:19] <Poeticode> alternatively, you can use the ControllerAs syntax, which lets you assign "this" in your controller to "vm" (aka view model) http://www.johnpapa.net/angularjss-controller-as-and-the-vm-variable/
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[18:04:58] <Poeticode> so your code isn't full of nested $scope's
[18:05:13] <batch4225> that is cool poetic thanks for sharing
[18:05:30] <batch4225> anyone here good with regex? lol
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[18:07:47] <Poeticode> I'm pretty bad at it :/ I usually just hack away on those regex tester sites until it finally filters how I like it
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[18:10:58] <metame> batch4225: depends on the day :)
[18:11:10] <Browser> Hello. I am sending a string from a service but for any reason, when it is printed is converted to {"1": "2", "3": "4"} instead of "1234". Why?
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[18:12:10] <oaulakh> batch4225, but you literly change my code bro, i just want to know why my if was wrong can i upload code again for you just tell me how my if is wrong, if you can help please
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[18:15:52] <metame> Poeticode: plus I've heard controlleras syntax is more ng2 friendly (at leat the mindset) but haven't actually delved into 2.0 yet
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[18:19:39] <rahat> Anyone know how to tell if a directive scope function using '&' is undefined?
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[18:22:58] <ycon_> hi all, I keep getting these random GET $HTTP errors for a directive inside localhost:8100/{{diretive.this}} image
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[18:25:56] <max_at> Browser: what gives you a typeof of that string? .. are you doing console.log or JSON.stringify on that?
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[18:27:24] <ycon_> Please help with NG-repeat problem. Im using $index2==0 to show in rows of two. It works, but for some reason random images are not in a row. Any ideas? http://stashdapp.com/azure/ios/www/index.html#/stores
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[18:51:09] <aniasis> What do you all think of TypeScript
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[19:02:30] <icfantv> rahat: you can simply do an if($scope.param) since `undefined` is falsy
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[19:03:21] <rahat> icfantv: no you can't, since using '&' puts a function to evaluate the expression on $scope.param
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[19:03:41] <rahat> but I figured out you can use functions with '=' anyway, which fits my usecase better.
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[19:14:03] <icfantv> rahat: ahhhhh, i didn't know that.  thanks
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[19:14:22] <rahat> icfantv: thanks for the effort, tho
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[19:15:06] <icfantv> yea, you want =
[19:15:09] <icfantv> that works
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[19:52:14] <Poeticode> Good lord, there are way too many different ways to do promises :/
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[19:54:57] <ycon_> Hi all, I've got a single API result tha's in an array []. Whats the trick to getting the js to see it? I tried unshift without success
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[20:03:56] <denis> hello?
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[20:04:37] <Guest79082> hello?
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[20:05:48] <Guest79082> i am having issues getting the My First App in Angular2 to work in the tutorial page.
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[20:06:07] <Guest79082> can someone point me in the right direction?
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[20:06:37] <Guest79082> the page just says loading...
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[20:08:55] <Guest79082> i guess i am on my own.
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[20:12:04] <ycon_> iHi all, really need help getting my $http json out of an array http://dpaste.com/0S804XQ
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[20:12:52] <mahesh> join
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[20:13:15] <mahesh> is anyone here?
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[20:14:14] <mahesh> how can i download angular js doc? can i download it?
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[20:16:48] <cyan__> mahesh: use teleport pro
[20:18:38] <mahesh> cyan_: how can i download with that?
[20:18:45] <ycon_> mahesh: Use chrome, print as a PDF
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[20:19:26] <ycon_> cyan__: Hi, really need help getting my $http json out of an array http://dpaste.com/0S804XQ
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[20:19:40] <cyan__> mahesh: find some tool to download entire website, then you will have online version
[20:19:46] <ycon_> its a single item nested in [] but using unshift and a bunch of other stuff i cant get it out
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[20:20:04] <cyan__> these software was popular at times, when internet connection was rare
[20:20:24] <mahesh> cyan_: okay, thanks
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[20:20:46] <mahesh> thanks
[20:20:51] <cyan__> mahesh: http://superuser.com/questions/14403/how-can-i-download-an-entire-website
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[20:22:31] <mahesh> cyan_: i am going to download it. tnaks dude
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[20:43:49] <ycon_> Hi all, really stuck trying to put a single json item (in an array []) into my directive in html using js. Anyone have an idea? http://dpaste.com/0S804XQ
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[20:49:44] <pootpoot> ycon_: whats the error?
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[20:50:33] <ycon_> pootpoot: I fixed it by doing             $scope.products = result.data[0];
[20:50:42] <pootpoot> gotcha
[20:50:55] <ycon_> I coudln't get a single json item (inside of an array) to return the proper result
[20:51:09] <ycon_> by proper, I mean it wasn' appearing in my directives
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[21:37:00] <mrk____> newbe question: i have one question. I have a controller where i make money grow with a $interval and then i have another where i control purchases so I need to substract that value from the other controller somehow.. how can i do that?
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[21:40:36] <pootpoot> mrk____: create a “service” that holds your money data. then both your controllers can access the same data
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[21:41:38] <pootpoot> a service is sortof like a singleton… you can call it WalletService or something like that, and multiple controllers or directives can interact with it
[21:41:52] <pootpoot> your wife, your kids, etc etc
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[21:42:46] <G1eb> no way I let my kids access my walet
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[21:45:16] <mrk____> i have a factoy which i use to fetch the stuff from the cd, should i just give that factory to both?
[21:46:24] <pootpoot> uhh depends?
[21:46:34] <pootpoot> probably not?
[21:46:52] <pootpoot> give it to your service and have your controllers request data via the service
[21:47:05] <pootpoot> it’ll be like a public api for anything wallet related
[21:48:21] <mrk____> so the thing is.. i have a MoneyFactory which accesses the db and fetches the info from the ratabase (its basically a return $http.get) and then the info is updated from the webapp so no need to bother the db
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[21:48:46] <mrk____> this is what i have http://pastebin.com/AyHZStcP
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[21:51:57] <batch4225> hey guys, hope all is well.  i have a few radio buttons that are being created with an ng-repeat, i would like to set one of them as the default, but if there is a value in a query string i'd like to change to that as the default
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[21:56:59] <pootpoot> batch4225: something like… ng-class=“{‘default’ : ’ $index === 0 && ! query_string_exists’}” maybe?
[21:57:02] <pootpoot> with better logic?
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[21:57:38] <batch4225> its weird because i need the attribute "checked" to be set
[21:58:17] <batch4225> but i have noticed that there are methods that have the same effect like setting the ng-model to a value makes that radio option selected
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[21:59:03] <batch4225> which is ok when i am going for the default because i can just $scope.radioXYZ = {something: someValue}
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[21:59:13] <batch4225> but i can not add any logic in there
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[21:59:25] <batch4225> i can't do a check for the url parameter
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[22:01:23] <artson> Can anyone point me how to setup build system to compile all app to dist/build folder? The example from angular.io compiles everything to the same folder as Typescript files. That's quite a mess.
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[22:17:44] <da_wunder> artson: that project might help https://github.com/mgechev/angular2-seed/
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[22:22:09] <pootpoot> does angular2 require typescript or is there just no documentation with plain js examples?
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[22:35:54] <Poeticode> I'd imagine it to be difficult to write it in plain js. You could transpile the typescript examples to es5 to see how it's done in vanilla JS.
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[22:46:07] <TheEskil> How can I use variables created outside of a $http.get() call inside of the success/error closure?
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[22:50:23] <Madmallard> Hello, could someone potentially help me with a Select2.js related issue?
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[22:58:44] <mib_mib> how good is angular for building an IPAD webapp?
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[23:00:59] <pootpoot> whats an ipad webapp?
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[23:05:48] <torbjorn> how can I test a file drag-drop with protractor?
[23:06:03] <torbjorn> or are there ways I can mock the File object that gets created in the javascript?
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[23:06:26] <kegster> so is angular2 supposed to fix everything that people are bashing angular in general for? or are they bashing something that's still keeping what's being bashed? lol
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[23:07:09] <archon-> yes
[23:07:49] <kegster> nice, strong answer :P
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[23:08:04] <kegster> anyone want to convince me to stick to angular 1.x and not move to react (or something similar?)
[23:08:07] <kegster> any takers? lol
[23:08:13] <kegster> fullstack, ?
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[23:09:50] <fullstack> use Angular 1.x John Papa style guide
[23:09:56] <fullstack> install Hot Towel yeoman generator
[23:10:04] <fullstack> and check it out
[23:10:12] <kegster> throw some butter and salt?
[23:10:46] <kegster> i see johnpapa's hot twel
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[23:11:40] <kegster> fullstack, so i use node to run the generator? what if node isn't sitting with angular?
[23:11:45] <kegster> put it there too? heh
[23:11:50] <kegster> i've been using nvm
[23:11:59] <BahamutWC|Work> kegster: angular 2 is already killing react in perf it sounds like
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[23:12:02] <fullstack> It will work
[23:12:21] <BahamutWC|Work> 2x as fast in general, for large # of elements the multiplier gets larger
[23:12:23] <mrk____> how can you pass params to put with $resource such as ?something="hello"
[23:13:02] <BahamutWC|Work> ng2 is planned out very meticulously, one of the most thorough pieces of engineering in frontend I've seen
[23:13:09] <BahamutWC|Work> if not the most thorough
[23:13:18] <kegster> fullstack, what will work?
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[23:13:32] <fullstack> kegster, ignore all the 2.x stuff. Just make sure you use Components instead of Directives in 1.x
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[23:13:52] <kegster> fullstack, will this have an easier upgrade to 2x with minimal code update?
[23:13:55] <kegster> or will it all be thrown out haha
[23:13:56] <fullstack> kegster, yes, nvm install -g gulp yeoman and following the instructions to install hottowel
[23:13:56] <BahamutWC|Work> if you're on a fresh project, you'd probably be best served looking into 2.0
[23:14:09] <fullstack> There's no business case for 2.0
[23:14:13] <fullstack> yet
[23:14:32] <BahamutWC|Work> there's plenty of technical cases for it, and potentially business depending on use case
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[23:14:33] <kegster> is that telling me not to use ng2 on fresh project, fullstack ?
[23:14:41] <BahamutWC|Work> that's an oversimplified generalization
[23:14:45] <fullstack> There's plenty of technical cases for it , correct.
[23:14:57] <fullstack> kegster, yes if you are running a business run 1.x for now
[23:15:13] <BahamutWC|Work> kegster: you're better served doing research than taking anyone's word for it
[23:15:13] <kegster> well it's a sample app but i should still stick to 1.x
[23:15:30] <kegster> so if i've been using directives, do i need to look into components ? lol fullstack
[23:15:42] <BahamutWC|Work> to accept a blind recommendation without context, understanding of situation, etc. is to essentially trust a random person on the street - don't do it
[23:16:03] <fullstack> kegster, its a one or two line change that will help you out going to 2.0 (we hope)
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[23:17:09] <fullstack> Angular 2.0 isn't ready for business
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[23:18:08] <fullstack> its ready for development to preview the final changes to get to release stage. Then usually I'd wait for a .1 then recommend it for business. Never run a .0 in production :) Although I probably won't recommend it at all.
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[23:18:57] <BahamutWC|Work> except plenty of people use libraries not at a 1.0 in production - Google itself uses 2.0 in production, and apparently a bunch of big companies already do so
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[23:19:32] <BahamutWC|Work> good engineering isn't built on blind acceptance of assertions - do the research kegster, come to your own conclusions based on your needs
[23:19:56] <fullstack> BahamutWC|Work, if thats true then they should release it
[23:20:18] <BahamutWC|Work> fullstack: React is probably the biggest contradiction to your claim
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[23:20:22] <BahamutWC|Work> they're at 0.14.x
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[23:20:33] <fullstack> Sounds overdue from what you are saying. I've got a business to run, bills to pay. I don't have time to switch frameworks every X months
[23:20:36] <BahamutWC|Work> UI Bootstrap only hit 1.0 this morning for example
[23:20:47] <BahamutWC|Work> UI Router only recently released a 1.0 alpha
[23:21:06] <BahamutWC|Work> plenty of counterexamples - point is, pithy summaries rarely make for good engineering practices
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[23:21:37] <BahamutWC|Work> especially when they aren't backed up with concrete evidence
[23:22:00] <fullstack> those frameworks were small enough to be proven. I had the resources to prove UI Router was good production for example. UI Bootstrap wasn't when I evaluated it. I don't use it either. I don't have the business resources of Google and Big Mac Corproation to evaluate angular 2.0
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[23:22:43] <BahamutWC|Work> and you've just exposed the fallacy behind your assertions - that might not match his/her situation
[23:23:00] <BahamutWC|Work> your assertion was based on your situation, but it might not apply to that person's
[23:23:13] <fullstack> he asked about my situation
[23:23:24] <fullstack> or she whatever
[23:23:41] <BahamutWC|Work> <kegster>: is that telling me not to use ng2 on fresh project, fullstack ?
[23:24:01] <BahamutWC|Work> and you asserted yes - that is bad engineering recommendation
[23:24:35] <fullstack> don't use angular 2
[23:24:38] <BahamutWC|Work> and then continued on that roll
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[23:25:31] <fullstack> you'll end up with a bad case of Overengineering Confirmation Bias like BahamutWC|Work  haha
[23:25:48] <fullstack> sorry, but its true
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[23:25:54] <kikero> hey
[23:26:10] <kikero> I have an Angular website on a shared host.
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[23:26:25] <kikero> I only do data-binding, no routing.
[23:26:25] <BahamutWC|Work> fullstack: sounds like you want to just throw out short insults instead of come up with sound reasoning - that's cool, but don't give out recommendations if you can't give a coherent argument for them
[23:26:27] <kikero> What are prerender alternatives I could use?
[23:26:30] <BahamutWC|Work> you're only hurting other people
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[23:28:36] <fullstack> So I plan on recommending Angular 1.x until it makes business sense to move to 2.0, that means, the learning curve, overhead, and available community resources matches or exceeds the current level of 1.x.  There are people who will disagree with me, but I haven't had a strong enough argument.
[23:28:38] <musthy> hi everybody
[23:29:17] <musthy> I think I came on time :)
[23:29:20] <BahamutWC|Work> again, that's fine if you want to recommend that, but at least give a reason that makes sense *for that user* given *that user's situation* - that is my point
[23:29:38] <BahamutWC|Work> don't just say "I don't think it's ready, therefore it's not ready for anyone"
[23:29:49] <musthy> lack of resources and not only js also ts and dart?
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[23:30:20] <BahamutWC|Work> that is never how you want to approach decision making
[23:30:30] <fullstack> BahamutWC|Work, I did, you rejected it.  That's fine.  It's not for everyone.
[23:31:06] <musthy> maybe ı escaped the subject but which is the best start? angular 1 or 2?
[23:31:13] <BahamutWC|Work> fullstack: you just said it outright, not try to find out about the user's situation before making a recommendation...that's what I have issue with
[23:31:27] <BahamutWC|Work> for example, if someone doesn't have to get an app out for a year - no reason not to just start in ng2
[23:31:49] <BahamutWC|Work> and there are plenty of other situations where it might make sense
[23:31:53] <bealtine> you should at least ready your codebase for ng2
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[23:32:09] <bealtine> regardless if you move or not
[23:32:48] <BahamutWC|Work> probably sets you up well if you set it up right anyway in case you wanted to move to any other view framework like react
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[23:36:39] <fullstack> probably not. by then, they'll be a new flashy framework
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[23:37:29] <BahamutWC|Work> I think frontend is coalescing around React & Angular for the near term
[23:37:44] <BahamutWC|Work> maybe will remain that way due to frontend burnout that seems to be increasing
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[23:45:05] <Madmallard> http://pastebin.com/Kdux5xxG , http://pastebin.com/hc9fKDwJ     - Can someone tell me how I would go about doing what I'm trying to do in these links? The search feature already works but I want the UI-Select2 object's minimum length field to change each type you select a different search type. I can't seem to figure it out and there isn't very helpful debugging information it seems.
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[23:46:50] <Madmallard> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17353189/how-can-i-pass-option-changes-to-angular-ui-ui-select2 - I think this might be addressing my issue? But I am not sure.
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[23:47:38] <BahamutWC|Work> Madmallard: I know it's possible to make that change
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[23:49:44] <BahamutWC|Work> Madmallard: probably need to do a scope.$watch on the model change
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[23:50:35] <Madmallard> the model for the Select2 object?
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[23:51:01] <Madmallard> put that scope.$watch inside Select2.js ?
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[23:51:30] <BahamutWC|Work> no, don't modify the library itself
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[23:55:19] <Madmallard> so that stack overflow is not quite what i'm looking for then
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