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[00:00:23] <MotherMGA> more importantly, I need to watch from outside of the form.

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[00:02:08] <snurfery> sup yall

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[00:16:25] <jdummy> snurfery?

[00:16:37] <jdummy> real life not cuttin' it anymore? ;)

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[00:17:55] <cilkay> Hello. I'm using ng-resource to fetch JSON from Django REST Framework running on localhost:8080. I haven't figured out how to pass the client_id of the client I want to fetch from the server. My code is here: http://jsfiddle.net/cilkay/nr1748ne/ If I hard-code the ID, it works no problem. What should I be passing as a parameter in line 19 in place of the hard-coded client_id?

[00:18:18] <cilkay> $scope.client.id didn't work

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[00:18:45] <cilkay> That only gets populated from data returned from the request.

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[00:23:54] <cilkay> I think it should be $scope.id, not $scope.client.id but that returns a 404, too.

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[00:35:23] <dsdeiz> hey guys i'm back again with my noob questions :D

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[00:38:51] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from facfec9 to 41f03e4: http://git.io/au5klA

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[00:40:20] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 41f03e4 to ee29819: http://git.io/ASEZPQ

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[00:41:54] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from ee29819 to 924d3c6: http://git.io/0hjq5Q

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[00:43:29] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 924d3c6 to c5cba6e: http://git.io/_1w0vA

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[00:43:49] <snapwich> did protractor just update and break for anyone else too?  I'm getting can't find protractor.getInstance() method errors now

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[00:44:49] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk merged master into g3_v1_3: http://git.io/CUKB0A

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[00:46:32] <icfantv> anyone have any ideas why this might not be formatting my number?  $filter('number')(number, fractionSize)

[00:46:57] <icfantv> number is a double and fractionSize WAS 2, but it defaults to 3, so i removed it.  but it's not formatting my number.

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[00:47:27] <icfantv> so i'm getting 11.70000000000001

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[00:48:02] <ProLoser> hey

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[00:49:16] <fabios> hi guys, I have a question with route resolve (I'm using ui router but I think it generically applies): I already use a promise with resolve to fetch some initial data before the controller is loaded. If the user access let's say /blog/posts/1 then I get the id from the url and fetch it

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[00:49:57] <fabios> but sometimes I already have the specific post data from the BlogController, and I simply want to pass to the Post controller that one, instead of fetching it from the API.

[00:50:06] <fabios> how would you handle this scenario?

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[00:50:58] <snapwich> yup.  protractor updated to 1.5.0 3 hours ago…  and now it's broken.  awesome

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[01:00:49] <sari1> how do I include new lines in text that is from an ng class?

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[01:00:57] <sari1> <br> and \n not working

[01:01:33] <snapwich> why would you want that in a class name?

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[01:03:02] <sari1> snapwich: from data, like { question: 'Will \n<br>this\nnewline?' }

[01:03:51] <Grokling> sari1: That's not what classes are for?

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[01:04:30] <sari1> Grokling: may have used wrong word

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[01:04:34] <snapwich> no

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[01:04:55] <sari1> Grokling: just want to use that data and have <br>s be put in the html

[01:05:05] <snapwich> you said ng-class.  so like ng-class="{ question: 'Will \n<br>this\nnewline?' }"  ?

[01:05:35] <Grokling> What you need to do is {{question}}

[01:07:06] <sari1> ok

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[01:07:28] <sari1> Grokling: have used that, but the new lines or brs don't come through

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[01:08:16] <sari1> Grokling: will it fade question http://www.kitchens-ink.com/faqmobile.html#Tattoos

[01:08:43] <snapwich> you need to use ng-bind-html if you want <br> in them

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[01:09:05] <snapwich> newlines don't display in webpages

[01:09:09] <snapwich> unless you're using a <pre> or something

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[01:09:27] <Grokling> sari1: That's because you have everything wrapped in double quotes there.

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[01:10:04] <sari1> in double quotes?

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[01:11:00] <Grokling> sari1: right click, and inspect element..

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[01:11:03] <ngbot> [angular.js] caitp pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/iK9v_A

[01:11:03] <ngbot> angular.js/master 02c9dc6 Caitlin Potter: docs(CHANGELOG): add v1.3.6 changes...

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[01:11:15] <ngbot> [angular.js] chimney-sweeper tagged v1.3.36 at e5b680e: http://git.io/l9cDmg

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[01:12:07] <sari1> snapwich: ill try that

[01:12:24] <sari1> Grokling: don't know where you are referring to, sorry

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[01:12:56] <ngbot> [angular.js] caitp pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/A84Fyg

[01:12:57] <ngbot> angular.js/master ca4df47 Caitlin Potter: docs(CHANGELOG.md): remove the `closes ...` from 2dc34a96 notes

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[01:13:13] <Grokling> sari1: It means that you've bound the value as a string. As snapwich said, bind as html.

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[01:16:59] <ngbot> [angular.js] caitp deleted v1.3.36 at e5b680e: http://git.io/tu5AtA

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[01:18:42] <jdummy> sari1: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$sce

[01:19:44] <sari1> jdummy: thanks

[01:20:02] <jdummy> np

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[01:20:38] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_2 from 38ff199 to 84bf883: http://git.io/MP3VgA

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[01:22:28] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_2 from 84bf883 to 17d8a52: http://git.io/ZrJZEA

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[01:26:12] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_2 from bd9e894 to 7044e55: http://git.io/wBpXDA

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[01:26:52] <ngbot> [angular.js] chimney-sweeper tagged v1.3.6 at e76e3db: http://git.io/eNenEA

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[01:32:24] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_2 from 370676d to 14409d7: http://git.io/Ti_iog

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[01:33:29] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_2 from 14409d7 to 7578744: http://git.io/OtmzEQ

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[01:34:24] <caitp> if you ever want to push a release

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[01:34:31] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_2 from 7578744 to ac9336b: http://git.io/isIGpw

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[01:34:36] <caitp> don't do it on 1600mg of ibuprofen with a fuzzy brain and an empty stomach

[01:34:46] <caitp> typos happen :<

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[01:35:33] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk fast-forwarded g3_v1_2 from ac9336b to bb3b653: http://git.io/KfYN-Q

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[01:36:40] <ngbot> [angular.js] chirayuk merged v1.2.x into g3_v1_2: http://git.io/AvAh9Q

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[01:37:52] <dsdeiz> what do i put as an expression on ng-show if i want it to only show if the expression isn't an empty object?

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[01:39:34] <fairuz> ng-show="theObject"

[01:39:45] <Grokling> ^

[01:39:55] <dsdeiz> yeah tried that

[01:40:20] <dsdeiz> i've got $scope.foo = {}; and ng-show="foo"

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[01:40:58] <Grokling> Object.keys(foo).length > 0

[01:41:01] <dsdeiz> works with $scope.foo = null; though

[01:41:45] <fairuz> iirc {} is not considered false

[01:42:04] <fairuz> need to check the keys like Grokling did ^

[01:42:05] <Grokling> yeah, {} is a value, so it's true.

[01:42:36] <Grokling> ng-show="Object.keys(foo).length > 0" should work.

[01:42:42] <dsdeiz> ah gotcha thx

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[01:42:53] <Grokling> Better if you know one of the keys though.

[01:43:21] <fairuz> yeah, I normally do ng-show="theObject.theProp"

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[01:43:54] <fairuz> since I think normally you show stuff if the property you want to show is there

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[01:44:56] <jdummy> caitp: meds + empty stomach = ulcers, oh nos!

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[01:45:24] <jdummy> ginger ale is your friend

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[01:46:50] <federicobucchi> Hi guys, how can I refresh the results of an ngrepeat when the $scope.results are changed?

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[01:47:30] <Grokling> federicobucchi: That should happen automagically.

[01:47:33] <snurfery> federicobucchi: it'll happen automatically

[01:47:34] <jdummy> federicobucchi: that's angular's job

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[01:48:03] <federicobucchi> mmm

[01:48:07] <federicobucchi> it’s not doing it

[01:48:11] <Grokling> federicobucchi: Maybe the $scope.results isn't actually changing..

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[01:48:23] <snapwich> might have to do an $apply to get the angular digest loop going

[01:48:30] <snapwich> scope.$apply

[01:48:33] <jdummy> federicobucchi: or you're modifying $scope.results outside of an ng-event

[01:48:38] <federicobucchi> yes I am changing it with updating a result

[01:48:47] <federicobucchi> yes is true

[01:48:49] <jdummy> ^ yeah, scope.$apply will fix it

[01:48:54] <federicobucchi> I am doing it outside ng-event

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[01:49:29] <federicobucchi> I tried scope.$apply already but nothing :(

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[01:49:55] <snapwich> do you have a plunkr?

[01:50:14] <Grokling> add {{results}} into your view and see if it's really changing.

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[01:54:57] <jdummy> eww... anyone ever run into a problem where the server-side changes your empty object into an array?

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[01:57:04] <snurfery> ew

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[01:58:41] <jdummy> yeah, PHP does it

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[02:08:19] <federicobucchi> This is the plunkr I created: http://plnkr.co/edit/rbOZPp9vdT4lkb0Yzm30?p=catalogue

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[02:20:12] <brolig> hello?

[02:20:18] <federicobucchi> Hey

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[02:20:43] <brolig> can i ask all questions here? about angular

[02:20:52] <federicobucchi> ya

[02:21:53] <brolig> cool. I have a ng-repeat button and i want to give the active button a color, but since they have same id they all get the same color. if u understood. ty

[02:22:24] <federicobucchi> don’t use more ids

[02:22:26] <federicobucchi> use classes

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[02:23:06] <Grokling> brolig: your ng-repeat gets you an object, use an object property to feed into ng-class, and use the resulting class to assign your color via CSS.

[02:23:07] <federicobucchi> and add a new class .active just to the one you want to make with the active color

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[02:26:14] <Grokling> livereload ftw. Hit save, and four devices on my desk all update by themselves.

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[02:27:43] <brolig> i dont understand what you mean by feed into ng-class. I have ng-class="{true: 'btn-primary', false: 'btn-default'}[isActive]" and some angular that activates when clicked

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[02:28:45] <Grokling>  ng-class="{true: 'btn-primary', false: 'btn-default', active:isActive}"

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[02:30:03] <Grokling> Actually, that ng-class thing is pretty messed up the way you have it..

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[02:31:04] <Grokling>  ng-class="{'btn-primary':true, 'btn-default':false, 'active':isActive}" might give you a better result.

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[02:31:20] <brolig> man im very new to angular. but thank you for ur help

[02:31:24] <brolig> i will try

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[02:31:49] <Grokling> With that, you should get <button class="btn-primary active"></button>

[02:31:59] <Grokling> for your active button.

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[02:34:16] <merpnderp> what happens with $q when sometimes a method returns async and you return your promise, but sometimes it returns immediately  and you need to fake the async.

[02:34:23] <merpnderp> Do you just use a timeout with 0 ms?

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[02:34:34] <brolig> woops, that made all the buttons colored. here is my button: <md-button ng-repeat="resource in resources_filter = (resources | filter:query)"

[02:34:35] <brolig>                  md-no-ink

[02:34:35] <brolig>                  class="resource-item"

[02:34:35] <brolig>                  ng-class="{'btn-primary':true, 'btn-default':false, 'active':isActive}"

[02:34:35] <brolig>                  ng-click="getResource(resource.plural); active();">

[02:34:36] <brolig>         {{ resource.displayName }} <span class="count">{{ resource.itemCount | number }}</span>

[02:34:38] <brolig>       </md-button>

[02:34:59] <Grokling> merpnderp: You can wrap a sync thing in $q.when(syncThing) to make it promisey

[02:35:17] <merpnderp> Grokling: okay, thanks I'll look taht up :)

[02:35:26] <Grokling> brolig: Please don't paste stuff in the channel - it's hard to read, and messes things all up!

[02:35:38] <Grokling> brolig: !plunker

[02:35:39] <UniBot> brolig, paste your code here: http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS  Try to isolate the specific problem (i.e. the least code you can use to show the issue - not your whole app), and get the code as near to running as you can, and someone will be happy to help.

[02:35:48] <brolig> okok. sry. didnt know. thanks.

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[02:36:22] <Grokling> brolig: Don't worry - we all did it once ;-)

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[02:37:38] <brolig> http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS?p=preview  . is my code readable from here? id dosent compile to anything though

[02:37:52] <brolig> nvm

[02:38:08] <brolig> nvm that nvm, my code appeard

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[02:39:48] <Grokling> brolig: I have to take off shortly - if you get a plunker up and running, someone will help point you in the right direction I'm sure.

[02:39:49] <brolig> http://plnkr.co/edit/j1fjch7rJxiEzFMBymje?p=preview

[02:40:04] <brolig> ok no problem.

[02:41:08] <Grokling> Okay - over on the right had side, second to bottom icon, two arrows in a square - hit that, and paste the url.

[02:41:16] <Grokling> right 'hand' side..

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[02:41:29] <merpnderp> Grokling: I think I'm using this wrong but not sure how.

[02:41:32] <merpnderp> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZKacmSoH

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[02:42:23] <Grokling> merpnderp: Over thinking it for sure.. hold on a sec and I'll cut something together for you.

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[02:43:04] <merpnderp> I'm just trying to find a single working example of $q.when on the interwebs and having no luck

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[02:45:03] <merpnderp> Grokling: think I got it

[02:45:05] <merpnderp> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tzZlo0kt

[02:45:06] <Grokling> merpnderp: http://pastebin.com/BkeBScPR

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[02:45:30] <merpnderp> Grokling: hah, awesome! THank you very much :)

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[02:45:55] <Grokling> np.

[02:45:56] <merpnderp> $q.when is awesome. Returns a promise and immediately calls resolve with the passed in value.

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[02:46:13] <Grokling> Gotta go. See you guys later.

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[02:47:06] <merpnderp> Whew, I'm tired. I've refactored the core of this app to two different patterns in the last week.

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[02:48:24] <ngbot> [angular.js] caitp pushed 4 new commits to materialize: http://git.io/Uv9CQg

[02:48:24] <ngbot> angular.js/materialize c820655 Georgios Kalpakas: docs(app): minor refactoring of 'docs/app/src/*'

[02:48:24] <ngbot> angular.js/materialize 68d490e Georgios Kalpakas: docs(app): refactor the Docs App based on the MD prototype...

[02:48:25] <ngbot> angular.js/materialize 1ce4547 Georgios Kalpakas: docs(app): fix styling of left sidenav, add FontAwesome...

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[02:52:25] <AngularUI> [ng-grid] kevin-sage opened pull request #2301: Load Data on Row Expanded (master...expandable-doc) http://git.io/FGhGuQ

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[02:54:58] <brolig> http://plnkr.co/edit/j1fjch7rJxiEzFMBymje?p=preview   . I have this button which i wants to mark colored if its clicked and recolor if another button is clicked. in the link u can see the provided code i have but it marks all button blue on click

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[02:56:54] <ilanbiala> Has anyone successfully gotten bower-material set up in their projecT?

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[02:59:28] <ilanbiala> I'm trying to incorporate the ng-aria script into my Gulp concat task and the ng-animate one as well, but ng-aria doesn't get put in. I checked the path, it is correct, but for some reason angular-aria.min.js isn't being added...

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[03:00:44] <federicobucchi> Hey guys, this: http://jsfiddle.net/hekkf7he/ is giving me this error: https://docs.angularjs.org/error/$rootScope/inprog?p0=$digest

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[03:03:09] <dacosta67> hi

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[03:27:17] <jnott> does google use angularjs

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[03:27:25] <jnott> for any of their public facing products

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[03:27:43] <jnott> it all seems to be google closure library

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[03:28:34] <jnott> goog.ui everything

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[03:31:07] <caitp> jnott: yes it does

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[03:31:22] <caitp> although in some of the cooler cases it's vestigial

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[03:39:53] <ctanga> like my tailbone

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[03:41:49] <stormbytes> would you put app biz logic in a controller?

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[03:41:57] <stormbytes> or strictly relegate that sort of thing to services?

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[03:42:16] <jnott> seems like amazon also is using goog.ui

[03:42:29] <jnott> in some places

[03:42:40] <stormbytes> this is integral business logic i'm talking about -- directly related to the central purpose of the app

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[03:52:46] <wafflej0ck> stormbytes: typically good to keep as much as possible in services/factories/providers since you can more easily avoid repeating yourself, the controller is just the glue to connect the functionality defined in providers to the view

[03:53:08] <stormbytes> hm

[03:53:22] <stormbytes> i know about services and factories, i've only heard of providers

[03:53:45] <wafflej0ck> services and factories are just specific ways of defining a provider (which they all are)

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[03:54:10] <wafflej0ck> a provider gives you the ability to set properties on your service/factory in a config block in case you need some info from the app before your service/factory can work

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[03:54:25] <wafflej0ck> if you don't need some app config then you just use service or factory to define your providers

[03:54:25] <stormbytes> oh i see

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[03:54:46] <stormbytes> value, constant, that sort of thing

[03:54:53] <wafflej0ck> yeah check out $providers doc

[03:54:58] <wafflej0ck> in the bottom it has a table with all of em

[03:55:07] <wafflej0ck> and "special properties" like where they can be used

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[03:55:57] <wafflej0ck> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/providers

[03:56:22] <wafflej0ck> just realized the $provider documentation in particular isn't what I meant but ^ that doc

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[03:56:37] <stormbytes> thanks i'll look that over

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[03:57:05] <stormbytes> so controllers are essentially just there to provide scope & tie into the views

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[03:57:24] <stormbytes> meaning services can fire events + controllers respond via listeners

[03:57:41] <stormbytes> and controllers can of course invoke service methods directly

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[03:57:58] <wafflej0ck> stormbytes: yeah basically controllers I just have as a small support structure for the view

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[03:58:26] <stormbytes> got it. interesting dev paradigm there

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[03:58:39] <stormbytes> so.. basicaly vm would be more accuratie

[03:58:41] <stormbytes> accurate

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[03:58:59] <eslaron> Hello ^^

[03:59:01] <stormbytes> going back to old school php mvc -- this just isn't it :)

[03:59:07] <stormbytes> wup eslaron

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[03:59:44] <eslaron> I think I encountered a tough nut. Relational DB with REST

[03:59:47] <stormbytes> wafflej0ck so is it normal for you to have several services within an app?

[03:59:57] <wafflej0ck> stormbytes: oh yeah definitely

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[04:00:13] <stormbytes> wafflej0ck i'm up to like.. 3-4 factories and about as many services so far

[04:00:16] <wafflej0ck> stormbytes: usually I have a service for each resource/CRUD endponit

[04:00:22] <wafflej0ck> endpoint*

[04:00:29] <stormbytes> the factories simply spit out objects -- a-la-Gadgets plunk

[04:00:58] <stormbytes> wafflej0ck can you give me an example of a service & associated end point?

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[04:02:08] <stormbytes> like for ex. if you're tracking guests as they sign in/out of a particular app/process, is that something you'd use a service for?

[04:02:48] <eslaron> Should I try to use relational database quirks or just load whole entities into my app and grab what I need with angular? I'm building a REST APi with angular frontend. I have made basic CRUD operations, but now has come time for relations between entities and I'm kind of lost. Anyone has some advice to offer? ^^

[04:02:49] <wafflej0ck> yeah I just use "service" for my providers that do API calls and "factory" for objects that may do some transformation of the data returned from the API.... an example might be an InvoiceService, with methods for getAll, getById, update, delete and endpoints with paths like mydomain.com/invoice or mydomain.com/invoice/1 and using HTTP verbs, POST->Create, GET->Read, PUT->Update, DELETE->delete

[04:03:35] <wafflej0ck> eslaron: https://blog.apigee.com/detail/restful_api_design

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[04:04:27] <wafflej0ck> eslaron: you may also just want to watch the updated version he did based on feedback https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpAhXa12xvU

[04:04:34] <eslaron> wafflej0ck been there already xD And I know the presentation "teach a dog to REST"

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[04:05:12] <wafflej0ck> eslaron: so yeah basically when I grab some object I'll grab the related parts if they are always needed

[04:05:22] <stormbytes> wafflej0ck got it

[04:05:36] <stormbytes> services for api calls + data 'transactions'

[04:05:47] <stormbytes> factories for objects that manipulate/store/reference data

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[04:06:14] <wafflej0ck> eslaron: in some cases it might be better to just fetch all the data for some portion of the app and do client side "joining"/fetching but that is going to depend on the amount of data you're dealing with for a given portion and how much repition there is to see if it's worth it

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[04:06:25] <wafflej0ck> stormbytes: yeah that's just a personal preference though

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[04:06:37] <stormbytes> wafflej0ck sounds sensible to do

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[04:08:42] <eslaron> wafflej0ck, I got something like this: users entity and persons entity. Persons entity contains a foreign key with user_id. Each user has it's own personal data like firstName, lastneme, phoneNumber etc. Users can fill this data at any moment, so the first record in the persons entity can belong to user with id 287. On the details page I want to fetch the users basic info and his personal data.

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[04:09:58] <eslaron> And the question is. Do it on the side of the database or fiddle with the whole collection on the client side?

[04:10:04] <wafflej0ck> how many users are you expecting?

[04:10:13] <eslaron> 120-500

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[04:11:25] <wafflej0ck> eslaron: so what you can do is generate some fake payload using something like this http://www.generatedata.com/ and see what the difference in the payload size is if you were to include all the data for each entry up front vs if you were to lazy load the details

[04:11:35] <wafflej0ck> my guess is just doing it server side is going to be fine though

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[04:13:16] <eslaron> As of now I load all into the app. For example. Loading 144 users takes 1,33 seconds. Doing a query for 10 users takes 1,2 sec. So I figured? Why bother with lazy loading?

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[04:13:38] <wafflej0ck> basically if you have something where there is a 1 to many relationship where the many side is repeated a lot then sending them as separate parts and joining client side is beneficial since you avoid returning a bunch of repitious data

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[04:14:17] <wafflej0ck> or many to many for that matter

[04:14:33] <wafflej0ck> but if it's 1 to 1 then there's not going to be much benefit to joining them up client side

[04:14:59] <wafflej0ck> and given it's a pretty small set of data I imagine the payload size in KB isn't going to be too terrible

[04:15:15] <eslaron> But when if there is 1 to 1 relation ship? User - Person is 1 to 1, User - Adress is 1 to n (main and correspondence address)

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[04:15:54] <wafflej0ck> yeah all those cases I'd do server side and load as much data as is reasonable before it becomes a bandwidth problem

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[04:16:29] <wafflej0ck> if you have something like students in classes then joining client side makes more sense since each student is in many classes and each class has many students

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[04:17:06] <eslaron> But how do I fetch the 1 to 1 entities? I mean. record id

[04:17:30] <eslaron> id's arent mirroring each other and a foreign key is necessary.

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[04:18:48] <eslaron> Do I load my user detail page and then reqeust the personal info based on the user's id or load both entities at once and tie them clientside?

[04:19:12] <wafflej0ck> I'm saying I'd just join those parts all up server side and return complex objects

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[04:19:45] <eslaron> join u say

[04:19:49] <wafflej0ck> if addresses aren't shared between user entities and personal info isn't shared between user entities then you might as well just join them up server side

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[04:20:47] <eslaron> You recommend to do a sql join or just lump them togheter in java?

[04:21:26] <wafflej0ck> I would maintain the CRUD endpoints for updating/creating addresses and personal info separate from the main entity if need be but yeah would just return the composed object in the case that all the parts are so unique and dependent on each other

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[04:29:35] <sabrehagen1> hi guys, i have an architectual question for you. i have an API on my server for accessing people and projects. a project has people, stored as an array of IDs of each person. i need to populate details of each person (e.g. name and picture) in order to display the project. should this population be done on the server, before returning the project, or should the onus be placed on the client (angular webapp) to make a request to the API for each us

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[04:34:29] <dacosta67> grizzm0:

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[04:35:44] <grizzm0> o.O

[04:35:54] <grizzm0> I'm sleeping.

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[04:37:47] <Fuzzy> sabrehagen1, is the api for your DB?

[04:38:09] <dacosta67> grizzm0: sorry

[04:38:15] <sabrehagen1> Fuzzy: yes

[04:38:18] <Fuzzy> I would make the requests from the server

[04:38:35] <Fuzzy> because you don't want to put your DB key on clients

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[04:39:42] <sabrehagen1> Fuzzy: what about separation of concerns? now in my getProject routine, i have to call to users and populate the project document further. shouldn't some higher level service deal with this?

[04:40:41] <Fuzzy> sorry, I don't really follow

[04:40:52] <Fuzzy> what is users

[04:40:54] <Fuzzy> in your case

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[04:41:13] <Fuzzy> also another advantage of using a web server instead of having your clients accessing the db directly is because DBs can be slow and get bogged down

[04:41:20] <Fuzzy> whereas you can use memcached for your server

[04:41:29] <Fuzzy> and that's much faster

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[04:43:07] <sabrehagen1> Fuzzy: sorry, *people

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[04:43:22] <sabrehagen1> Fuzzy: i see...

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[04:57:07] <Fuzzy> it all comes down to how you set up your api

[04:57:08] <Fuzzy> tbh

[04:57:12] <Fuzzy> but if your api is just a db...

[04:57:19] <Fuzzy> set up a webserver to access ur db

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[04:58:35] <sabrehagen1> Fuzzy: the api is provided by a web server as an interface to the db

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[05:00:21] <eslaron> wafflej0ck, thanks for your advice I think I know what I want to do now :)

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[05:06:22] <eslaron> Good night guys ^^

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[05:15:18] <Fuzzy> sabrehagen1: hm, I would still opt to run things through your own server

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[05:20:41] <visualshock> Anyone know how I can make a md-button stay active?

[05:21:03] <BahamutWC|Laptop> visualshock: heh, co-workers were talking about that today - I believe it’s the md-active attribute

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[05:23:05] <visualshock> BahamutWC, where should I place it?

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[05:27:07] <onozor> hi

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[05:27:30] <BobbieBarker_> does angularJS 1.3.6 break ui-router?!

[05:27:56] <onozor> I am getting started with angular js please i need a guard

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[05:29:04] <onozor> who is the angular king?

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[05:29:29] <BobbieBarker_> there are lots of smart people in here if you have a question just ask it

[05:29:45] <federicobucchi> Hey guys

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[05:30:04] <federicobucchi> I solved the digest issue for the $scope.$apply using a timeout

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[05:32:19] <federicobucchi> but in the view the ngrepeat is not showing the updated results

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[05:43:59] <sakustar> BobbieBarker_: but who is the angular king?!

[05:44:14] <BobbieBarker_> you have to find the one ring to rule them all

[05:44:20] <BobbieBarker_> first

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[05:46:16] <BobbieBarker_> anyone know what the last stable build of ui-router is/was?

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[05:46:57] <dave_boling> Are you using 2.12?

[05:47:01] <Fuzzy> where do you guys find your contracting work

[05:47:10] <BobbieBarker_> i'm on 2.13 apparently

[05:47:17] <BobbieBarker_> i don't contract i have a reg job

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[05:47:25] <dave_boling> Ah, been using 2.12 with no problems at all.

[05:47:27] <BobbieBarker_> is/was 2.12 stable?

[05:47:29] <BobbieBarker_> i'll try it

[05:47:42] <BobbieBarker_> i ran bower update lastnight to get the latest angular Material

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[05:48:39] <sakustar> using bower update takes courage

[05:48:54] <sakustar> updating a project always does

[05:49:05] <BobbieBarker_> this is an internal tool app i'm building in my free time

[05:49:08] <dave_boling> truth

[05:49:10] <BobbieBarker_> using a shitload of expirimental stuff

[05:49:16] <BobbieBarker_> i'm building it using angular material ffs

[05:49:17] <BobbieBarker_> lol

[05:49:23] <BobbieBarker_> which is on versino 0.6.1

[05:49:39] <dave_boling> :D

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[05:50:21] <BobbieBarker_> everything was trucking along last night then i get on here tonight and it's completely fucked

[05:50:27] <BobbieBarker_> can't go from sign-in to my landing page

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[05:50:44] <BobbieBarker_> just a lot of bizarre behaviour from the router and according to ui-router's git page their current build is failing

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[05:51:16] <dave_boling> I feel your pain on that

[05:51:25] <dave_boling> especially when hapi went 8.0 few weeks ago

[05:51:37] <BobbieBarker_> ffs man still can't resolve the state

[05:51:42] <BobbieBarker_> it makes no sense

[05:51:52] <Francis> hey guyz i need  a help in angularjs drag and drop ,i want to drop the list  element in to element and append it li into li

[05:51:56] <Francis> here a plunker

[05:51:58] <Francis> http://plnkr.co/edit/0Dj869goYSrQy53ePJpz?p=preview

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[05:52:42] <BobbieBarker_> whats the problem looks like it is working

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[05:53:28] <fairuz> Hey guys. Does ng-options need ng-model as well to work. Adding ng-options="state.id as state.name for state in states" does not seem to populate the list. $scope.states comes from a promise

[05:53:36] <Francis> yeah its working but i want to drop the element into element

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[05:54:05] <Francis> BobbieBarker like ipod into shirt

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[05:54:57] <dave_boling> Are you doing a $scope.digest anywhere in there fairuz?

[05:55:00] <BobbieBarker_> you didn't write your own drag-drop?

[05:55:20] <dave_boling> If you're doing it in a promise, it may not be done before the page loads.

[05:55:28] <BobbieBarker_> i think the problem is the

[05:55:32] <Francis> i have my own drag drop want to see that actually its all in jquery wait i show you

[05:55:36] <dave_boling> And not updating scope like it normally would

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[05:55:40] <BobbieBarker_> no

[05:55:42] <BobbieBarker_> jquery is shit

[05:55:42] <BobbieBarker_> lol

[05:55:44] <fairuz> dave_boling: no

[05:55:47] <BobbieBarker_> you can write it easily with out jquery

[05:56:05] <Francis> http://jsfiddle.net/3vt1w9r3/1/

[05:56:06] <dave_boling> Do a $scope.apply() or $scope.digest() in your promise.

[05:56:24] <Francis> BobbieBarker but hard to make the json

[05:56:26] <BobbieBarker_> ithe problem

[05:56:28] <BobbieBarker_> the problem

[05:56:48] <BobbieBarker_> is that the drop target is the UL list itself

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[05:56:56] <Francis> yes

[05:56:56] <BobbieBarker_> which you have hidden

[05:57:05] <BobbieBarker_> so make the h2 tags a target too

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[05:57:35] <Francis> so its work

[05:57:40] <BobbieBarker_> ?

[05:57:41] <Francis> or not

[05:57:42] <fairuz> dave_boling: Ok let me try that

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[05:58:29] <BobbieBarker_> i'm pretty sure that if you make the h2 target a target for drag-drop it will work. Clearly your drag-drop stuff yo'ure using works

[05:58:30] <dave_boling> Be sure to do the digest() after the variable is redefined

[05:58:34] <BobbieBarker_> because you can drop into the shopping cart

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[06:00:10] <Francis> BobbieBarker i want when i drag the element into shopping cart  (like t shirt i drag i want the drop one more element into in it ) same thing i did in jquery but can't possible in angularjs

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[06:01:01] <BobbieBarker_> i guess i'm not understanding the problem, sorry for that

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[06:02:05] <Francis> BobbieBarker give me one minute

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[06:03:00] <BobbieBarker_> i dunno what to do about this fucking router problem. I guess i should wait for them to push a stable build

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[06:04:24] <Francis> < BobbieBarker >  like i drag the the Lolcat Shirt from list i want to make it droppable (same one) so i drop lot of list element into it

[06:04:56] <BobbieBarker_> so if you drop a shirt onto a shirt it increases the quantity?

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[06:06:15] <Francis> < BobbieBarker > i want to make it droppable and increases the index

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[06:07:59] <dave_boling> Oh

[06:08:21] <Francis> BobbieBarker got it

[06:08:33] <BobbieBarker_> nah sorry, i'm just getting confused,

[06:09:59] <Francis> 	http://jsfiddle.net/3vt1w9r3/1/ see this one may be you understand

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[06:10:10] <Francis> i drop list ino list

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[06:13:15] <dave_boling> You're just wanting to have two items when another of the same is dragged onto the list?

[06:13:20] <dave_boling> that's what I'm getting

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[06:13:58] <Francis> like i drag one list element i want to make it droppable

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[06:15:58] <Francis> http://jsfiddle.net/3vt1w9r3/1/  this is my fiddle where i done samething

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[06:17:13] <BobbieBarker_> i see

[06:17:13] <BobbieBarker_> now

[06:17:36] <BobbieBarker_> so what you probably need is a directive that is restrict to A and applies the drag-target attribute

[06:17:46] <BobbieBarker_> ... i dunno

[06:17:50] <BobbieBarker_> that is a complex use case though

[06:17:52] <BobbieBarker_> or

[06:17:54] <BobbieBarker_> what you could do

[06:18:12] <BobbieBarker_> is write a filter that sorts all the items

[06:18:40] <Francis> ooooo i dont know

[06:18:44] <dave_boling> underscore.js

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[06:20:01] <BobbieBarker_> don't use underscore

[06:20:02] <BobbieBarker_> use lodash

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[06:20:27] <BobbieBarker_> so the plot has thickened on my router problem

[06:20:39] <Fuzzy> the plot...has thickened!

[06:20:56] <BobbieBarker_> i console logged $state.get() and not surprisingly the state that i cannot reach isn't even in the list of available states

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[06:21:34] <snurfery> sup yall

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[06:26:10] <snurfery> plunker's collaboration tool isn't working

[06:26:25] <snurfery> are there any other "live code help" websites I can use to help my friend out?

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[06:26:37] <zivester> how can I get a handle on the <form> element that triggers an ng-submit.. is that somewhere on 'this', or must I attach an id to the form ?

[06:26:39] <snurfery> maybe video + a place for code

[06:27:00] <snurfery> zivester: if you give the form a name then that name will appear on your scope

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[06:28:13] <dsdeiz> can't i easily get the cookie using $cookieStore.get('test')?

[06:28:30] <dsdeiz> i added $cookieStore.put('test', 'foo'); earlier and i'm not able to retrieve it

[06:28:34] <dsdeiz> when i reload the page

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[06:30:00] <dsdeiz> ah i think i get it now

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[06:31:18] <dsdeiz> ah no i still don't get it :D

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[06:42:41] <zivester> snurfery, so I have the $scope.myForm ... how do I get a direct handle onto the form element... as if I did $('[name="myForm"]')

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[06:43:34] <BobbieBarker_> why do you want to do that?

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[06:44:44] <zivester> need to call a legacy function that needs a jQuery handle onto the form

[06:44:54] <BobbieBarker_> oi

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[06:45:42] <BobbieBarker_> well id on't know about this legacy function crap, but what i would do if i wanted to use like jqlite on a specific element is place a directive the element

[06:45:44] <zivester> better than not using angular at all.. i hope.. this new section is so much nicer to work with.. but some things i can't control.. hence this jquery stuff

[06:45:45] <BobbieBarker_> restrict it to A

[06:46:09] <BobbieBarker_> what does the legacy function do?

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[06:47:11] <zivester> uploads a set of files to a specific endpoint on the server... something I can't be bothered to rewrite in angular right now

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[06:47:30] <zivester> so is there not something simple like $scope.myForm.getElement() or something?

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[06:50:11] <BobbieBarker_> no you have to use the link function in a directive with angularJS anytime you want to do anything with an element

[06:50:13] <pedrosanta> Hi there. I've seen the "replace: true" deprecation warning on $compile for some time now, but it seems that's a lot of discussion aound that issue and I'm getting the feeling that it might not be deprecated at all. Does anyone has a more informed position on this?

[06:50:15] <BobbieBarker_> angularJS runs on jqlite

[06:50:21] <BobbieBarker_> and you access that inside of directives

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[06:52:29] <zivester> gotcha, ok, thanks for the info

[06:52:33] <BobbieBarker_> np

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[07:17:29] <fairuz> Hi. After trying, Adding ng-options="state.id as state.name for state in states" to the select tag does not seem to populate the list. But when I do <option ng-repeat="state in states" ng-value="{{ state.id }}">{{ state.name }}</option> on the option tag, it works. What did I do wrong in my ng-options? Thanks

[07:17:52] <fairuz> Works as in the list appear

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[07:23:11] <fairuz> on nvm, it need ng-model to work

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[07:53:36] <krad> hey guys.  ive read many articles on error handling in angularjs.  but didn't understand why most of them add the errors to the $rootScope?

[07:53:59] <krad> they add the exception and the scope wherever they occur

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[07:54:40] <krad> shouldn't error handling be like for example if something fails, decide what to do, try to recover, or take actions according to the app state

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[07:56:19] <BahamutWC> krad: sounds like you understand it better than those articles then :P

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[07:57:38] <krad> what's the point of pushing all errors to the $rootScope..... besides a centralized place for errors

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[07:57:48] <krad> shouldn't error be dealt with at the place they occur

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[08:02:11] <BahamutWC> krad: using rootScope like that is pretty bad

[08:02:14] <BahamutWC> you are correct

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[08:14:38] <soee> good morning

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[08:23:56] <dsdeiz> i have form submit function usually like $scope.submit = function(values) { ... } and in my partial ng-model="values['textfield']" or ng-model="values['radio']"

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[08:24:08] <dsdeiz> would it be better if i used scope inside submit instead?

[08:24:20] <dsdeiz> like $scope.submit = function() { console.log($scope.values); }

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[08:24:38] <dsdeiz> or do i stick with $scope.submit = function(values) { console.log(values); } ?

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[08:31:50] <xxtjaxx``> Hi! I have version 1.3.6 of angular and angular-resource fetched via bower. I've setup this service: http://paste.debian.net/135594/ and this controller with it: http://paste.debian.net/135596/ And I get the following error with it: http://paste.debian.net/135598/  which apparently is a valid bug/error since value at that line tries to call push on a Resource which fails miserably...

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[08:33:03] <xxtjaxx``> The offending line in the code is here: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/ngResource/resource.js#L591

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[09:57:48] <nothingPT> heloo

[09:57:51] <nothingPT> *hello

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[09:58:39] <Fifty5Plus> is ui-grid any good?

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[10:23:24] <JJOO> are there any plans to ever stop supporting implicit DI? (function($a, $b), no string array)

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[10:23:45] <sacho> JJOO, yes

[10:23:54] <sacho> the plans are to stop supporting it when angular 1.3 comes out

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[10:24:05] <nfroidure> hi, i've got a small module i'd like to full test https://github.com/SimpliField/angular-sf-dragndrop

[10:24:12] <JJOO> sacho: 1.3 is out isn't it

[10:24:16] <sacho> JJOO, yes it is

[10:24:25] <nfroidure> how would you test drag and drop ? firing with elem.trigger() or other ?

[10:24:48] <JJOO> sacho: what did you mean the plans "are" to, then? haha, if its out already, you mean theres an open issue?

[10:25:31] <JJOO> couldn't find one on github so wasn't sure if it was planned

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[10:27:41] <sacho> well, you can use ng-strict-di to basically disable it.

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[10:28:03] <JJOO> true

[10:28:17] <JJOO> but i was wondering if there are plans to ever remove it completely

[10:28:23] <JJOO> just out of interest

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[10:28:54] <sacho> I can only speculate, but I can't imagine it being removed for 1.3, and 2.0 probably won't have anything like it

[10:29:07] <JJOO> yeah thats true

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[10:32:13] <storkme> what's standard practice for showing like a spinny wheel while loading resources to inject into a controller with `resolve`? I have a login page, when finished it redirects you to user.index which loads a bunch of stuff in resolve:{} but while it's loading the user still sees the login page

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[10:32:56] <prashant> hey

[10:32:57] <prashant> all

[10:33:02] <prashant> im new to angular

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[10:38:12] <langywhips> does anyone know when the new router shown by Rob Eisenberg in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1P_Vh4gSQY will be available in angular 1.3?

[10:40:52] <cheef> how do i access custom elements inside a custom directive?

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[10:41:02] <cheef> want to manipulate them befor ethey ar compiles

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[10:41:30] <sacho> what do you want to do to them

[10:41:53] <cheef> add some attributes, and setup ngModel

[10:42:05] <cheef> the parent directive has a config to be shared by the children

[10:42:14] <sacho> You'd need to manually compile them, then

[10:42:23] <sacho> I think.

[10:42:43] <daniele9821> Hello all it's possible to create nested directive? in the first directive i've a ng-repeat now I want to create a second one with another ng-repeat but I don't know how. The scenario is the follow: Main view: <main-tree root+jsondata></main-tree>

[10:42:45] <sacho> you could select them like any other dom element regardless

[10:43:00] <daniele9821> now how I can pass the second one?

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[10:43:34] <cheef> for example <my-customer-directive some-attrs> <my-custom-element/> i want to transclude the custom element to a point inside my template, and then add some attrs from it

[10:43:51] <tangorri> anyone successfully use directive templateURL pointing to svg files ?

[10:44:02] <daniele9821> or I can do create the second one only inside the first directive?

[10:44:03] <cheef> i tried element.children but it gave me all the template elements, rather than just those that were to be transcluded

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[10:46:43] <daniele9821> maybe the question isn't more clear

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[10:49:19] <sacho> cheef, you can use the transclude function to access just the transcluded elements

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[10:49:36] <cheef> thought that was the case!

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[10:50:00] <cheef> its a bit more complicated as the transcluded content needs to go in an ng repeat

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[10:55:33] <dhanam> scopes are caching when i logged out

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[10:55:46] <dhanam> in IE11

[10:55:59] <sacho> what does that mean

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[10:57:16] <sacho> try forcing a full refresh, if your browser is caching the page and showing you stale contents, you need to change the caching headers your server sends

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[11:10:01] <deny> hello all is possibile to create 2 directive with 2 ng-repeat? for example think to a tree all the root node inside the first one and all the child inside the second one and in the main html do same like that: <root-tree json= data><child-tree json=??></></>

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[11:14:19] <cheef> sacho: in the transclusion function it gives me the custom elements template, rather than the original markup my-custom-directive

[11:14:24] <cheef> so im guessing its been compiled already

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[11:16:37] <cheef> ye that looks like it, can't modify it before compilation then :/

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[11:17:13] <sacho> sorry, I don't remember the specific steps of compilation and transclusion, but that sounds plausible.

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[11:17:36] <cheef> thats cool mate, im just saying what im seeing :)

[11:17:49] <rabbi1> I am trying to paginate the list… https://gist.github.com/anonymous/16a6fa20f6d53a05c107 Using angular ui-bootstrap, the pagination is displayed correctly, but the items are not shown at all :( what could be the issue ?

[11:18:01] <cheef> im wondering if i can use pre instead of post and still access the trasncluded content

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[11:19:01] <sacho> prelink is before compile

[11:19:03] <sacho> err, after*

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[11:19:57] <cheef> ye, but importantly its before the child :)

[11:20:00] <rabbi1> sacho: for me ?

[11:20:08] <cheef> at the minute its doing child:postlink parent:postlink

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[11:24:29] <cheef> sacho: works :)

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[11:28:12] <rabbi1> any help on this? Cofused... I am trying to paginate the list… https://gist.github.com/anonymous/16a6fa20f6d53a05c107 Using angular ui-bootstrap, the pagination is displayed correctly, but the items are not shown at all :( what could be the issue ?

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[11:39:36] <Guest4890> hi

[11:39:45] <Guest4890> hi

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[11:40:23] <Guest4890> can anyone tell me where to start studying angular

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[11:40:30] <rightnow> Helo, i have a problem. I have <input type="checkbox" ng-model="crm.enabled" ng-true-value="1" ng-false-value="0"><input type="text" ng-model="crm.enabled" />     crm.enabled is tied to an API, and if i do console.log(crm.enabled) it says 1. the text field says 1, but the checkbox isnt checked?

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[11:56:27] <rabbi1> rightnow: get rid of ng-true and ng-false

[11:57:04] <rabbi1> and you can't have to fields with same model

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[12:02:23] <soee> if i want to implement authentication service its a better to do it as a separate module or simple service in existing one ?

[12:04:35] <sacho> if you plan on testing it alone, or your app with a mocked auth service, sure.

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[12:11:21] <Fuzzy> use your own module

[12:11:23] <Fuzzy> for sure

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[12:11:33] <Fuzzy> way too cluttered to put it with other stuff

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[12:14:01] <soee> yeah ill go with separate module, have one more question if my main app module injects module Foo the foo is also avaiable in module Bar that is injected by main app ?

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[12:15:18] <Fuzzy> no

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[12:16:25] <sacho> soee, it would be

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[12:17:12] <sacho> but it's not a good idea to have implicit dependencies.

[12:17:44] <soee> usecase: my authentication module wil use ngStorage and i wonder either it shoudl be injected in main app or this  auth module (main app might also use ngStorage)

[12:17:53] <Fuzzy> wait..you dont have to specify dependency directly? interesting

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[12:18:05] <Fuzzy> if everything isi injected into mainapp

[12:18:16] <sacho> soee, inject it in the module as well.

[12:18:28] <soee> sacho: both modules ?

[12:18:35] <sacho> if you use the module separately from the app, then it wouldn't work.

[12:18:56] <soee> ok might be a good idea, thank you

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[12:22:55] <erry> if i want to access a variable key in an object in '{{}}' how do i do it? something like obj.$key ?

[12:23:04] <erry> where 'key' is my variable with the key name\

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[12:33:48] <sacho> obj['key']

[12:34:05] <sacho> or obj[$key]

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[12:35:41] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/8HApIQ

[12:35:41] <ngbot> angular.js/master d8e3707 Wesley Cho: feat($compile): add support for ng-attr with camelCased attributes...

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[12:42:10] <soee> what would be the best way to initialize auth module when app is loaded ?

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[12:45:23] <PC_> hai

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[12:54:35] <glontu> hi

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[12:54:58] <glontu> i want my directive to be able to watch some variable on the controller scope but i can't get it to work

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[12:55:49] <glontu> my directive has an isolated scope with {location: '='} and in the page i do <div location-gmap-directive callback="mapLocationChanged" location="{{location}}"></div>

[12:56:06] <glontu> but changing the $scope.location variable in the controller does not make the directive react

[12:56:22] <glontu> how should i do this properly ?

[12:56:27] <rels> Hey ! Any idea on how to properly watch a scope variable of a controller in a service ? I passed the scope to the service and the name of the variable to watch but it doesn't work when the var is not initialised :/

[12:56:32] <sacho> because the location attribute must hold an expression, not an interpolated value

[12:56:43] <sacho> try just location="location".

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[12:58:59] <glontu> sacho, still not working. in my directive i have scope.$watch(location, function(){...}); which is not loging anything

[12:59:08] <glontu> should i watch scope.location or something else ?

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[12:59:14] <sacho> why the hell are you watching it?

[12:59:33] <glontu> i'd like to do stuff when it changes

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[12:59:59] <sacho> $watch also expects an expression. What's the contents of location in this case?

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[13:00:25] <glontu> sacho {lat: ...., lng: .....}

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[13:00:50] <sacho> well, watching an object literal is pointless

[13:01:03] <sacho> again, you want to pass an expression, e.g. 'location'

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[13:01:24] <sacho> but you're watching this value twice

[13:01:32] <glontu> so on the controller scope i should make a function that returns the object ?

[13:01:40] <sacho> no

[13:02:23] <glontu> can i set this up so that my directive does something when the controller $scope.location object changes ?

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[13:02:54] <sacho> sure

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[13:04:07] <glontu> well i now put my controller like so : <div location-gmap-directive callback="mapLocationChanged" location="location"></div> and in the directive's isolate scope i have {location: '='}

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[13:04:58] <glontu> my directive is a google map that is supposed to erase a marker and place a new one when the location changes so that i why i want to watch it ... i don't know how else to run functions when it changes

[13:05:30] <glontu> any sugestions ?

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[13:07:08] <sacho> glontu, http://plnkr.co/edit/bYxee0zgIkL1lIMgPp90?p=preview

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[13:07:41] <sacho> you could also use '=', although that creates two watches

[13:07:42] <sacho> e.g.

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[13:08:08] <sacho> glontu, http://plnkr.co/edit/PKU4DzO7OjfcT3ntXCPp?p=preview

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[13:08:58] <glontu> thanks sacho i'm testing this out right now

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[13:09:24] <glontu> works great. thanks a lot

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[13:12:25] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 1 new commit to v1.2.x: http://git.io/jmyNWA

[13:12:26] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.2.x a1e7eb6 Wesley Cho: feat($compile): add support for ng-attr with camelCased attributes...

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[13:31:26] <erry> sacho_,see http://paste.scsys.co.uk/451389

[13:31:54] <erry> data.date.unix is 1417015516 ,                 {{ alert.alerts.services['1417015516'] }} shows an array,

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[13:32:06] <erry> but                 {{ alert.alerts.services[$data.date.unix] }} doesn't show anything

[13:32:11] <erry> how can i make this work?

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[13:33:53] <JFlash__> why i keep getting this error that the injector could not inject the $state module into my controller?

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[13:36:46] <JFlash__> http://pastie.org/9769749

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[13:47:38] <opensourcegeek> hi guys - I have a question on best practice on performance

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[13:48:07] <JFlash__> opensourcegeek:  good luck, man

[13:48:24] <JFlash__> opensourcegeek: all I can see here is idlers

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[13:49:06] <opensourcegeek> ha ha

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[13:49:28] <cheef> not all of us, some of us are busy!

[13:49:30] <cheef> :D

[13:49:37] <gruntjs> hello there

[13:49:39] <opensourcegeek> JFlas__: ha ha

[13:49:53] <cheef> guys, is it possible to access the transcluded content of a custom directive before its compiled (its a custom directive in itself)

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[13:50:47] <soee> i have a auth module with factory AuthenticationFactory and i can't use it anyway in app .run() callback function even if it is set to be injected

[13:50:56] <soee> any idea why this might happen ?

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[13:51:14] <gruntjs> plnkr?

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[13:51:37] <gruntjs> verify that you injecty the module in the module definition

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[13:54:24] <cheef> seems my issue is a child directive compiling before parent, eventhough its <parent><child>

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[13:55:30] <JFlash__> I told you guys.  there are only idlers here

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[13:56:31] <gruntjs> cheef:

[13:56:42] <gruntjs> did you use the compile function in your directive

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[13:56:59] <gruntjs> it has arguments function(scope, element, attrs, transcludeFn)

[13:59:08] <cheef> ye, but because my transcluded content contains a custom directive, it gets compiled before the parent

[13:59:20] <cheef> so my transcluded content contains the template url for that directive

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[13:59:35] <cheef> i basically want to pass some attributes from my parent to my child

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[13:59:43] <cheef> rather than having to repeat the attributes everywhere

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[13:59:57] <gruntjs> and the compile function doesnt return that?

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[14:00:52] <cheef> for example: <parent><child> where <child> has a a <label><input>, I get back <label><input> in the transcludeFn

[14:00:55] <cheef> instead of <child>

[14:01:06] <cheef> because the child directive has been compiled already

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[14:01:33] <cheef> i guess i could grab the parent ctrl in the child directive, and configure in the pre

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[14:01:51] <gruntjs> use different

[14:01:55] <gruntjs> how do they call that

[14:01:57] <gruntjs> priority>\

[14:01:59] <gruntjs> maybe

[14:02:10] <cheef> possibly

[14:02:13] <cheef> ill try

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[14:02:54] <cheef> althoguht thats meant for directives on the same elemenet

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[14:03:21] <gruntjs> maybe

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[14:03:35] <gruntjs> there is the "terminal" property also

[14:03:39] <gruntjs> never used that either

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[14:04:44] <cheef> in practice it seems quite trivial

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[14:06:46] <yottanami> I have a method named  badge_processor that returns : [{"text":"Not Approved","color":"bg-yellow"}] but in this code `ng-repeat="in badge_processor(object)"` it run many times !

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[14:06:55] <yottanami> What is going wrong ?

[14:08:08] <yottanami> sorry the currect code is ` ng-repeat="badge in badge_processo`

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[14:09:40] <gruntjs> yes when you use functions it runs indefinitely

[14:09:54] <gruntjs> it should be avoided

[14:10:00] <yottanami> I used track by $index and now it works

[14:10:08] <gruntjs> yes

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[14:10:24] <cheef> hmm, so how would i pass information to my child directives before they are compiled from the parent?

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[14:20:24] <AciD`> I used `npm install -g generator-angular-php && yo angular-php` to scaffold my app many months ago, but now I want to integrate Laravel into my project. Of course, the dir structure in not the same (not even psr-0 on angular-php), so what would be the best way to proceed for you ? Install a fresh Laravel and manually copy the existing files, and update the paths (that sounds awful :() ?

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[14:26:56] <yottanami1> gruntjs: But I have another ng-repeat that can not work after using track by $index for first looop

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[14:32:15] <cheef> sigh i give up with this, can't even share data from parent to child, the childs getting compiled before the parent and i think its to do with ng-transclude

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[14:37:58] <roman> I have two ng-includes in a template where I include the same template twice, but pass different variable values in the "onload" attribute. the problem is that they overwrite each other since they seem to share the same scope. does anyone know how I can solve that?

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[14:39:28] <roman> basically I do onload="foo = 1" in one include and onload="foo = 2" in the other and in the target template I print it with "{{foo}}". the second foo passed overwrites the first one though

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[14:40:09] <roman> what I need is to somehow scope the variables in the onload so they don't interfere with each other

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[14:43:09] <cheef> http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview any tell me why parentCtrl is not defined in the child directive?

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[14:44:02] <bigx> hello, does anyone having trouble testing socket.io with karma? i've got a connection error, but the tests pass with mocha-phantomjs

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[14:47:13] <cheef> anyone?

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[15:13:24] <cheef> is there a way to set up data binding in post link?

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[15:17:42] <sacho> sure

[15:17:47] <sacho> all data bindings use watches

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[15:18:11] <dmack> merpnderp:

[15:18:20] <dmack> add a $stateChangeError handler, it'll catch resolve errors.

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[15:21:08] <cheef> basically i have a tempate ng-model=ngModel where ngModel is an isolate scope. Normally ngModel is somehting like vm.obj.prop

[15:21:35] <cheef> however I want to make this dynamic, so in some circumstances I can update to vm.obj[index].prop

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[15:22:55] <caitp> cheef: you're gonna run into problems with that

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[15:23:12] <caitp> the #1 reason why you're gonna run into problems with it, is creating 2 instances of the ngModel controller

[15:23:21] <caitp> it's gonna confuse the hell out of you during test

[15:23:23] <caitp> tests

[15:23:33] <cheef> my use case is some form components, but i also want to reuse those components within an ng-repeat

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[15:24:32] <cheef> but the data binding needs to be bound to the index

[15:24:50] <caitp> harmony block-scoping shipping in v8 and spidermonkey soon

[15:24:59] <caitp> make sure to 'use strict' to get the benefits

[15:25:06] <dmack> so that'll be in node, right? oh, wait...

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[15:25:21] <caitp> since v8's sloppy block scoping is not gonna be implemented for a while due to fear of it breaking people :(

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[15:27:56] <sojic> Anybody to help me with: http://jsfiddle.net/k3zf3kpo/

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[15:28:25] <dmack> http://jsfiddle.net/k3zf3kpo/1/

[15:28:31] <dmack> (don't do that, btw)

[15:28:38] <_45kb> hi, anybody knows how to change the url in browser without refreshing or re-rendering the directives and the ng-include?

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[15:28:52] <sojic> Thanks!

[15:28:55] <_45kb> i tryed with history.replaceState() but i get a refresh

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[15:29:37] <sacho> I wasn't sure what v8's "sloppy block scoping" was, so I googled it, and...well, I'm confused what this is - http://organicsearch.agency/conversations/since-v8s-sloppy-block/

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[15:30:42] <dman777_alter> just to confirm....a value is a service, correct?

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[15:31:42] <sacho> you could say they are siblings

[15:31:47] <sacho> they're both specializations of a provider

[15:31:55] <dman777_alter> thanks

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[15:32:12] <dmack> you guys are fixing that in 2.0 right caitp?

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[15:32:43] <_45kb> who is working on 2.0? caitp are you? :)

[15:32:43] <caitp> i hope we're fixing everything

[15:32:58] <caitp> well i should be since i'm supposed to give a talk on it in april

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[15:33:04] <caitp> but no i'm not yet

[15:33:06] <sacho> I heard angular 2.0 fixes global warming

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[15:33:45] <_45kb> oh ok :) i am corious about if there will be any chance to convert old 1.3 code to 2.0 in some easy way :)

[15:33:58] <caitp> no chance of that whatsoever

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[15:34:21] <_45kb> eheh we'll need a huge refactoring :P

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[15:35:56] <_45kb> caitp:  do you even know why they decided for so big changes? It looks to me that 2.0 is completely different ….

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[15:37:06] <dmack> _45kb: ES6

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[15:37:50] <_45kb> dmack:  cool

[15:38:00] <dmack> (at least that's a big driving factor)

[15:38:04] <dmack> and web components.

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[15:38:25] <caitp> _45kb: some really stupid reasons, tbh

[15:38:38] <caitp> es6 doesn't make that big of a difference in it

[15:38:39] <_45kb> caitp:  ehehhe

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[15:38:50] <cheef> can i access the $index of an ng repeat from inside a custom directive?

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[15:39:13] <caitp> the main issue is, separating template component attributes from host attributes

[15:39:16] <_45kb> i am wondering how much time i'll need to refactor github repos and apps i've done :P

[15:39:43] <_45kb> caitp:  that sounds cool

[15:40:01] <caitp> so to do that, we have this stupid template="microsyntax" attribute

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[15:40:08] <caitp> which just strikes me as really bad

[15:40:22] <dmack> where's that github issue?

[15:40:27] <_45kb> :)

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[15:41:36] <_45kb> dmack:  asking  me?

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[15:41:59] <dmack> no, I remember there was (is) a really long github issue discussing the template stuff for 2.0

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[15:42:06] <_45kb> ah ok :)

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[15:45:28] <cheef> anyone? want to grab the current index of ng repeat inside a custom directive

[15:45:44] <_45kb> does $location.state replaces the browser url string?

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[15:46:50] <_45kb> trying $location.state(newUrl);  but it seems doing nothing

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[15:49:11] <jsheely|2> I have two directives on an element. That should work right?

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[15:49:31] <caitp> depends

[15:49:33] <jsheely> I keep getting the Multiple directives asking for new/isolated scope error

[15:49:48] <caitp> maximum one new scope, maximum one template

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[15:50:13] <jsheely> So by doing scope : { someVar: '=' } that is what is breaking it

[15:50:18] <caitp> although admittedly the code for detecting duplicate new scopes/templates is not very good and fails a lot

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[15:51:31] <jsheely> I guess I'm a little confused as I want to pass a value to my directive of the same name

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[15:51:36] <jack10> Hey guys, im using ngStrap, and have some issues with an offcanvas col is this even implemented in ngStrap?

[15:51:46] <jsheely> Would it just make more sense to pull the value from the attrs then?

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[15:51:49] <burzum2> Is there any recommended way to validate a form on submit?

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[15:52:41] <sojic> dmack, please check this one: http://jsfiddle.net/waLcL8r7/ How to "Inject" Date object in directive scope? Short intro: controller->scope.mp is array of objects received over api. trackTime is "sql" date format... I am creating directive to print a table, formating the date in "human readable" format.

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[15:53:26] <chachan> guys, I have this: $scope.django = JSON.parse($('#django').text());

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[15:54:11] <chachan> I want to put that line in most of my controllers, should I use a directive for that? (in order to about repeating code)

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[15:58:52] <dmack> chachan: don't use DOM manipulation in controllers.

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[15:59:43] <chachan> dmack: yeah, I've heard that. So directive is my best option?

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[16:00:19] <dmack> yes

[16:00:22] <dmack> sojic: sec

[16:00:31] <sojic> dmack, thanks

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[16:01:08] <jsheely> I'm puzzzled on this scope issue

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[16:02:03] <jsheely> wanted to do something like <div auto-width="{{size.Width}}" auto-height="{{size.Height}}" />

[16:02:08] <dmack> sojic: http://jsfiddle.net/hqs68bqa/4/

[16:02:17] <jsheely> I guess a directive that just does both probably would make sense

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[16:02:29] <dmack> sojic: I'm still not sure why you need Date.parase

[16:02:31] <dmack> parse*

[16:03:12] <dmack> could do it like this

[16:03:13] <dmack> http://jsfiddle.net/hqs68bqa/8/

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[16:03:32] <sojic> dmack, I have "sql" date format from the api... I want to "print" it in format: "10 Dec. 14 10:11"

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[16:04:15] <sojic> dmack, track.time is string from api, therefore I want to "convert" it in the directive.

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[16:04:40] <sojic> I do not want to "iterate" in factory and replace time string to time object

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[16:05:09] <dmack> so do this

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[16:05:46] <dmack> well, either way you're going to have to convert it

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[16:06:37] <sojic> dmack, thanks a lot!

[16:06:40] <sojic> link: do the trick

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[16:07:35] <dmack> cool

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[16:09:26] <chachan> dmack: thanks

[16:09:29] <anderskristo> Hey, I have a form with different "steps", and i want to check if all fields in a "step" is valid. If they are valid the button that takes you to the next step in no longer disabled. How do i manage that? At the moment i have ng-disabled="myForm.$invalid", and that checks every field in the form..

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[16:09:49] <dmack> anderskristo: use ngForm to create subforms per step.

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[16:10:26] <stryju> +1 @ dmack

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[16:11:23] <anderskristo> dmack: thanks!

[16:11:40] <dmack> sure

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[16:12:56] <jaydubya> hi, dmack. Do you remember on Sunday helping me to refactor my FeederFactory to prevent the copy-paste call of all of the methods?

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[16:14:47] <dmack> hmm, I don't?

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[16:14:54] <dmack> I dont think I was on Sunday :)

[16:16:09] <jaydubya> Maybe it was Saturday ... don't you like to return a get_object() from a factory that contains all member methods?

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[16:17:13] <dmack> not ringing a bell :(

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[16:19:39] <jaydubya> my apologies. I looked in the archive and it was moogey that helped me

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[16:24:15] <tristanp> has anyone else had problems in ui router using $state.go inside of an onEnter of a state?

[16:24:24] <cheef> cna you transclude content into ng-repeat?

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[16:24:30] <burzum2> Is there any recommended way to validate a form on submit?

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[16:26:17] <cheef> burzum2: either with ng-submit, or a custom directive possibly that intercepts the submit, validates the form then does whatever afterwards

[16:26:48] <chachan> burzum2: yeah, check this https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/forms

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[16:27:44] <burzum2> cheef ok thank you, im already using ng-submit, but how can I prevent the directives that are used on the elements to fire before the form is submitted?

[16:27:45] <jaydubya> I was taught to let a factory keep all the references to data it gets back from the server. And have a getObject() that returns an object of all the available data structures and was able to refactor a FeederFactory to do just that. The FeederFactory just harvests all of the dropdown lists for the application.

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[16:28:43] <cheef> what directives do you want to prevent/

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[16:29:04] <jaydubya> I wanted to do the same to my LoansFactory but I need parameters. The FeederFactory had no parameters since it was grabbing all the rows in the table. How do you handle parameters within a factory?

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[16:30:13] <cheef> i create a cusotm directive for the submit event, i can do whatever then (like running validators), before deciding whether or not to submit the form

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[16:31:01] <jsheely> Anyone have a minute to help me with a scope issue between directive and controller. http://plnkr.co/edit/S394BAFybUYMXK7kWfAs?p=preview

[16:31:28] <jsheely> Brain just isn't grasping it today yet

[16:31:45] <cheef> is there a way to copy some html from inside a custom directive into an ng-repeat delcared in the directive tempalte?

[16:31:52] <cheef> its really busting my melon it sounds so straightforward

[16:32:09] <jsheely> cheef Are you looking for ng-include ?

[16:32:27] <cheef> not exactly

[16:32:53] <cheef> i have a form definition, and it may contain a collection (ng-repeat). i want the form definition to basically build that structure

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[16:33:44] <jsheely> yea you lost me with your terms.

[16:33:59] <cheef> im probably explaining it badly

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[16:34:00] <jsheely> You're saying that the form actually contains an ng-repeat?

[16:34:06] <cheef> yes, sub forms

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[16:34:31] <cheef> as well as a button to add/remove items from that collection

[16:34:36] <jsheely> So you have something like $scope.form.subForm = "<div ng-repeat..."; ?

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[16:34:40] <cheef> i dont want my form controller to have that logic in

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[16:35:41] <cheef> ye ill have a parent form, with some standard form components, then i have a collection of subforms thats dynamic

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[16:35:49] <cheef> so you can add/remove/edit etc

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[16:35:57] <cheef> wanted to put this into a directive

[16:36:04] <jsheely> But what is creating those "dynamic" forms? Where is the value?

[16:36:18] <jsheely> Ultimately it sounds like you just need to apply a sub controller to your sub forms

[16:36:32] <cheef> the form builder is dynamic

[16:36:53] <cheef> i did that before, it works, but it wasnt very flexible

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[16:37:25] <jsheely> So the questions remains. Where are you storing the information?

[16:37:48] <cheef> on the parents scope

[16:37:57] <jsheely> $scope.masterForm ? Then contains a collection called $scope.masterForm.subFormOne?

[16:38:04] <cheef> yup

[16:38:14] <cheef> it all needs to be validated together

[16:38:21] <jsheely> Which subFormOne can contain a collection of things which present a form ?

[16:38:26] <cheef> yup

[16:38:34] <cheef> different things, or rather different types of components

[16:38:36] <aniM> Hey folks, I am creating an app which can have multiple layouts, like menu at leaft-search at right-content in middle or menu at right-search in menu-content at left and so on. I am wondering how do I structure my app. Please help.

[16:38:37] <cheef> its reusably

[16:38:45] <jsheely> So what's the problem with the master form generating that ?

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[16:38:59] <cheef> not all my forms have that on it

[16:39:05] <jsheely> The type of components would I assume be your custom directives ?

[16:39:07] <aniM> I want to be able to easily add new layouts in future.

[16:39:24] <cheef> ye, but they are just simple directives for form controler

[16:39:27] <cheef> controls*

[16:39:34] <cheef> with a bit of additional config

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[16:39:51] <cheef> the idea is the markup for the forms is very clear and configuration driven

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[16:40:36] <jsheely> STill working out your domain model in my head. But I haven't seen where the problem is with your formController rendering the content for the sub forms

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[16:40:56] <cheef> it could render it sure

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[16:41:00] <cheef> but then i'll have to manage it

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[16:41:06] <jsheely> Manage what?

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[16:41:17] <cheef> adding/removing subforms

[16:41:18] <jsheely> your formController already knows about the subForms

[16:41:24] <cheef> it doesnt

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[16:41:28] <jsheely> you said it does~

[16:41:38] <jsheely> $scope.masterForm.subFormOne

[16:41:40] <jsheely> !

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[16:41:56] <cheef> its not explicily defined

[16:42:02] <jsheely> Doesn't need to be

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[16:42:12] <jsheely> Assuming it's a collection

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[16:42:43] <cheef> it is

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[16:42:59] <jsheely> Then yea. Still not seeing your conundrum

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[16:43:20] <jsheely> The master controller has some idea that a sub form can or will exist

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[16:44:09] <cheef> i'll jsut use an ng-repeat

[16:44:14] <jsheely> I'm thinking your issue is that the subForm has a dynamic template ?

[16:44:19] <cheef> its all dynamic

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[16:44:40] <jsheely> Careful with that word though.

[16:44:51] <cheef> the form controller just deals with capturing valiadting and submitting the data from a form configuration

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[16:45:06] <cheef> that configuration contains a bunch of components, some simple, some complex (sub forms)

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[16:46:18] <jsheely> Sure. But it's also responsible for knowing what form configurations are available. And if you don't want it to be. Then you'll need another directive / controller

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[16:46:53] <cheef> aye ive build directives for all my componenets except a complex component which contains my simple components

[16:47:06] <cheef> which is basically an ng-repeat of components

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[16:48:30] <cheef> all i wanted was to have it render a sub form, with the components id declared inside the custom element

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[16:48:40] <jsheely> Yea it seems straight forward in my head. $scope.masterForm.forms[0] = {components: [{type:'text', label:'First Name'}]}

[16:48:40] <cheef> and have two way data binding working

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[16:48:55] <cheef> but its proving impossible

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[16:50:36] <cheef> i may as well right a plunkr showing what i want

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[16:50:44] <jsheely> Usually safe

[16:50:48] <cheef> it wont work, but at least its better than me fumbling through an explanation

[16:52:11] <jsheely> In the vein. Any help with my dumb problem would be appreciated. http://plnkr.co/edit/S394BAFybUYMXK7kWfAs?p=preview

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[16:55:50] <jsheely> 213u=t20=g24=g2gu2g9=j2g=24tgj2=3gaj3erh=g24HG24G

[16:55:58] <jsheely> Freaking deep dirty checking

[16:55:59] <jsheely> UGH!

[16:56:02] <tristanp> maybe im missing something but how do you capture the current $state name in ui-router? Do you really have to listen to $stateChange and record it on rootscope?

[16:57:02] <ses1984> why is it that directives like ngSrc, ngClass, use camelCase in the docs but hyphen-case in html templates

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[16:57:27] <jsheely> tristanp I believe you can assign it to the scope within the controller for the route

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[16:57:42] <sojic> Folks, need simple help. Here is the issue: http://jsfiddle.net/kd3u8x1a/. I've found http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23493063/angular-ng-repeat-conditional-wrap-items-in-element-group-items-in-ng-repeat, but I do not know how to use "every" filter to achieve it.

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[17:01:01] <ses1984> sojic not sure what you're asking

[17:01:03] <ctanga> tristanp put $state on $rootScope, then use {{ $state.current.name }}

[17:01:13] <ctanga> for controller code, obviously

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[17:01:45] <sojic> ses1984, I have array of something.... I'm using bootstrap, and I want to group "something" in each row 2 someting.

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[17:02:19] <sojic> need: <div class="row">x, x</div><div class="row">x, x</row>.

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[17:02:39] <sojic> Currently <div class="row">x,x,x,x</div>

[17:02:45] <cheef> http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview

[17:02:49] <cheef> thats basically what i want

[17:02:51] <cheef> in terms of markup

[17:03:00] <cheef> but nothing works

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[17:04:37] <ses1984> sojic as far as i can tell that stackoverflow is not really relevant to your question.  you don't actually want to group by any specific property, right?

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[17:04:49] <ses1984> you want to just things in groups of two

[17:04:51] <ses1984> right?

[17:04:55] <sojic> yes

[17:05:01] <cheef> http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview sort of works,  but its lost the two way data binding

[17:05:20] <sojic> There is filter "every" https://github.com/a8m/angular-filter#every, but I do not know how to use it in my case

[17:05:32] <sojic> someting, group by 2

[17:05:38] <sojic> every 2

[17:05:58] <MotherMGA1> Hello, I have a checkbox input with ng-required, but then the model is set to true, its not getting checked. I can force it with ng-checked="{{ngmodel}}", but the form directive still considers it ng-invalid-required until you uncheck and recheck it again.

[17:06:02] <MotherMGA1> Suggestions?

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[17:06:58] <jsheely> @cheef Shouldn't your group directive contain the configuration of the form instead of doing textfield inline?

[17:07:01] <ses1984> do you mind if i ask why you want to do this, while i'm trying to work on it

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[17:07:17] <cheef> ye its *slightly* trivialised

[17:07:18] <sojic> ses1984, is the question for me?

[17:07:21] <ses1984> yes

[17:07:22] <cheef> but the same problem exists

[17:07:32] <cheef> i think the issue is translcuding into ng-repeat

[17:07:34] <ses1984> i'm new to angular also so i'm trying to work through this but i also don't really know what i'm doing

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[17:08:30] <cheef> the trasncluded scope is the scope from where it was trasncluded from, not the ng repeat scope

[17:08:32] <jsheely> @cheef I'd make it exactly the way you want it instead of trying creating another problem

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[17:08:47] <cheef> this is how i want it

[17:08:49] <ses1984> sojic i don't know how good of a solution this is, but what if in your controller you grouped mountpoints by two

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[17:09:04] <cheef> group creates the subforms

[17:09:09] <jsheely> But it doesn't

[17:09:10] <cheef> using the form components defined in it

[17:09:16] <jsheely> You have the subForm in there

[17:09:40] <sojic> ses1984, bad solution, because I'm using the same "mountpoints" in another places.

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[17:10:19] <ses1984> so what, you can use still use the same mountpoints in other places if you have a separe mountpoint_by_two

[17:10:23] <jsheely> Doesn't really explain where you want your values either.

[17:10:37] <jsheely> I assume you want the model on the group to contain the values for the textfields ?

[17:10:55] <cheef> ye

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[17:11:15] <wooz86> hey guys! I have this dropdown which is divided into optgroups with the help of "group by" in ng-options. But now I want to sort the optgroups alphabetically. How do I do that?

[17:11:23] <sojic> ses1984, I'll try

[17:11:36] <ses1984> i'm thinking of how you can do this, using filters

[17:11:47] <cheef> first things first, is tranclusion the only way to grab the content from inside group?

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[17:14:00] <jsheely> It's the only for a custom directive to contain child elements afaik

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[17:20:22] <ses1984> sojic: http://jsfiddle.net/9dkLm99j/1/

[17:20:30] <cheef> jsheely: check out http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview

[17:20:36] <cheef> it 'sort of works'

[17:20:54] <ses1984> sojic...i have no idea if this would work...i'm new to angular

[17:21:00] <ses1984> i'm trying to test it in a real app now

[17:21:28] <jsheely> SO I think I see the problem

[17:21:41] <jsheely> I am able to do it like this: http://plnkr.co/edit/tUCAtCxpL9rDUylpDDy3?p=preview

[17:22:00] <jsheely> But you want textfield... model='model.field1' instead of items.field1

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[17:22:47] <cheef> id prefer field1

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[17:22:56] <cheef> but im not sure if thats possible

[17:23:00] <cheef> on the fly

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[17:23:50] <jsheely> It could be if you took your model and then applied each property directly onto the scope

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[17:24:01] <jsheely> by way of some loop in your group directive

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[17:24:09] <cheef> ye, i guess that would do it

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[17:24:31] <ses1984> sojic fixing it a little more still...

[17:24:31] <jsheely> But yea I'm not sure why model doesn't work

[17:24:42] <jsheely> I feel like it should

[17:24:55] <ses1984> oh he left.

[17:25:00] <cheef> i can live with that for now

[17:25:08] <cheef> did you check the other example?

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[17:25:15] <cheef> got it working with ng-repeat

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[17:31:29] <cheef> right off home, probs be back laters

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[17:32:58] <werehuman> hi

[17:33:03] <werehuman> i have a question

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[17:33:29] <werehuman> i know about the feature of passing a function to a directive using the '&'

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[17:33:41] <werehuman> but is that possible to pass a list of functions?

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[17:34:20] <werehuman> like 'actions': '&' where actions contain a list of functions that are not on the directive but on the controller parent ?

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[17:39:38] <jaawerth> it'd be easier to just use '=' and pass in the collection yourself, and then $parse them and execute using scope.$parent

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[17:40:06] <werehuman> i dont have scope.$parent

[17:40:13] <werehuman> since the directive is isolated

[17:40:27] <jaawerth> you still have scope.$parent when using isolate scope, your scope just isn't inheriting from it

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[17:40:39] <jaawerth> you wouldn't want to do MUCH with it, but it's useful for stuff like that

[17:40:40] <werehuman> really

[17:40:51] <werehuman> ill try this

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[17:41:03] <jaawerth> I kinda want to try it now too.. hehe

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[17:42:23] <eighty4> I'm trying to lazy load directives using https://github.com/ocombe/ocLazyLoad but it seems like a directive loaded after everything else won't trigger. Anyone have experiance with this?

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[17:43:29] <smuglr> Trying to punch above my weight .... I have a childApp module which contains various interconnected directives. The module is injected into my mainApp module. I want to pass an object with configuration data to the childApp from the mainApp. My best attempt (?) ... was to create a service in the childApp and use this in mainApp.config, but cant get this to work. Am I close?

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[17:46:40] <BahamutWC> smuglr: you cannot inject a service into the config block, only providers and constants

[17:47:01] <BahamutWC> I would recommend using a provider

[17:47:12] <subone> Under what circumstances would a REQUEST interceptor run AFTER a RESPONSE interceptor for the same request?

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[17:48:04] <subone> After the request came back, actually

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[17:48:15] <smuglr> Ah ok I thought reads somewhere a service was a subset of provider. What about using the service in the mainApp controller?

[17:48:17] <nickeddy> subone: you mean after the response came back?

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[17:48:29] <subone> yeah

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[17:48:44] <werehuman> you would use a cached parameter

[17:48:45] <nickeddy> subone: is this for $http?

[17:48:47] <werehuman> something like

[17:48:51] <subone> yeah

[17:48:52] <werehuman> lastRequest = ...

[17:49:03] <werehuman> if (request == lastRequest) then ...

[17:49:10] <nickeddy> subone: might need to see some code because that shouldn't happen as far as i know

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[17:49:29] <AngularUI> ng-grid/master aa47506 Brian Hann: Try to get tests running on SL again

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[17:50:02] <selva> Is there any way to set expire time in AngularJS $localStorage or implement a retention policy to delete 30 days old data regularly

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[17:50:19] <subone> NVM, OMG read it wrong, there is another request

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[17:50:39] <luckymeerza> hello

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[17:51:40] <nickeddy> subone: :P

[17:51:47] <ingsoc> subone: are you sure it is the same request,

[17:51:54] <ingsoc> ok

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[17:52:01] <subone> sorry guys

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[17:52:36] <subone> and I found my issue :)

[17:53:04] <subone> There was a responseError that I was forgetting to reject before returning

[17:53:05] <werehuman> selva: you can implement a key in the LS that contain the creation Date, then when your app runs and the localstorage is expired, remove the data from the LS

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[17:53:52] <werehuman> PS: I fixed my problem by implementing a function, "execute" in my controllers, and pass it to the directive using the '&'

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[17:54:33] <selva> werehuman: could you please give more detail on this

[17:54:38] <ses1984> in an html template, what's the formal name of something to the right of a directive equals sign, with the quotes...

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[17:54:46] <ses1984> is that a directive parameter? argument?

[17:54:56] <werehuman> then in the directive i would call the execute function which would take a functionName, and call the function in the execution scope (the controller)

[17:55:02] <ses1984> like ng-repeat="x in my_array" , what is "x in my_array" called

[17:55:03] <selva> I am thinking, how does it will expire automatically when the creation data is added

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[17:55:20] <selva> date*

[17:55:31] <werehuman> ses1984: ab exoressuib

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[17:55:34] <werehuman> an expression

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[17:55:36] <snurfery> sup yall

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[17:55:58] <werehuman> in html terms it is an attribute

[17:56:04] <ses1984> is it correct to refer to it as an expression, i thought expressions were always within double curly braces

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[17:56:13] <werehuman> not at all

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[17:56:28] <werehuman> double curly braces is just syntactic sugar for "ng-bind"

[17:56:33] <ses1984> ok so let's say it is an expression, it's an expression that's used as the argument of a directive?

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[17:56:36] <ses1984> ahh i see

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[17:57:03] <ses1984> ok well i'm asking because i want to make sure i'm asking my next question correctly. i'm having trouble using a custom filter in an expression passed to ng-repeat directive

[17:57:10] <ses1984> i want to to do something like this http://jsfiddle.net/uwqft726/

[17:57:10] <werehuman> selva: it must be done in the context of your app of course

[17:57:27] <werehuman> i dont know if the native LS has an expiration feature

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[17:57:47] <werehuman> you should look in the html5 website for the specs

[17:57:51] <jaawerth> werehuman: yep, works http://plnkr.co/edit/OAIUZkQ9FoBwzeyNQptY?p=preview

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[17:58:17] <selva> werehuman: thanks, I will take look

[17:58:27] <ses1984> i think i must be doing something outside the bounds of what angular is expecting because when i try to put something like that in my app, i get a weird error that bubbles up from within angular

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[17:58:30] <jaawerth> haha granted you'd want to pass in your actions using a scope var rather than a giant string in the view like I did there, but I thought it would be fun to test it that way

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[17:58:39] <ses1984> i get "error: missing ; before statement angular.js:11383"

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[17:58:52] <werehuman> i didnt know about the scope.$parent jaawerth

[17:58:59] <werehuman> but even though

[17:59:06] <werehuman> I wanted to do something like

[17:59:12] <jaawerth> hehe yeah, it's not something you run into something like that

[17:59:19] <jaawerth> er, run into often*

[17:59:32] <werehuman> myCtrl: $scope.actions = {'blabla': $scope.blabla, 'grunt': $scope.grunt }

[17:59:37] <jaawerth> I've been playing around with scopes lately though - like generating them manually and using them for specific things

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[17:59:45] <Zeioth> Someone knows if it's possible to change $interpolateProvider only for a controller instead of the whole module?

[17:59:46] <werehuman> and in my html do "actions="actions""

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[18:00:11] <olivvv> hi.

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[18:00:16] <jaawerth> well, you'd have to do it as a string - '&' actually works the same way

[18:00:24] <jaawerth> or an object of strings

[18:00:34] <jaawerth> rather

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[18:00:37] <werehuman> right

[18:00:44] <werehuman> because functions are not serializable in js

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[18:00:48] <olivvv> What should be done to ensure that a directive has run (transformed the dom) in protractor e2e tests ?

[18:00:53] <jaawerth> you could have the strings all be function calls though

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[18:01:04] <werehuman> yes, the problem was

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[18:01:13] <werehuman> how to call them from inside the directive

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[18:01:18] <werehuman> so maybe

[18:01:36] <werehuman> $parse(actions.action)($scope.$parent)

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[18:01:57] <werehuman> or even $parse(actions.action).call($scope,$parent, parameters)

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[18:02:20] <werehuman> other people on my team wouldnt understand though

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[18:02:45] <jaawerth> yeah, using $parse is getting into less common territory for a lot of people

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[18:02:58] <jaawerth> then again, so is '&' really, it's just easier to use from the outside

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[18:03:28] <werehuman> i think i just implemented the "command pattern"

[18:03:35] <werehuman> now that i think about it

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[18:04:35] <werehuman> its funny when you just implemented a design pattern that not long ago you thought would never use

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[18:05:19] <nickeddy> werehuman: :) called patterns for a reason

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[18:05:27] <BobbieBarker> can anyone recommend some resources on animations? Every time i fuck around with them, i get janky results.

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[18:05:55] <werehuman> nickeddy: right, but they were designed for OOP on the first place

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[18:06:06] <werehuman> I hardly stumble upon them in JS

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[18:06:18] <BobbieBarker> that's because JS has no class

[18:06:19] <BobbieBarker> lol

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[18:06:28] <jaawerth> it's getting there

[18:06:35] <BobbieBarker> ecma6

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[18:06:52] <jaawerth> you can come pretty close with ecma5, lot of underutilized features

[18:06:58] <BobbieBarker> no doubt

[18:07:01] <werehuman> why, it has prototoyp

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[18:07:04] <werehuman> protoype

[18:07:15] <BobbieBarker> well the powers that be have decided it would be better with classes

[18:07:17] <jaawerth> <3 Object.defineProperty

[18:07:19] <werehuman> sure inheritance is a mess

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[18:07:28] <BobbieBarker> i enjoy JS as it is

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[18:07:42] <BobbieBarker> it's never really bothered me

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[18:07:57] <jaawerth> inheritance isn't that bad, it's just most devs don't really know how to do it properly

[18:08:10] <werehuman> you never worked in a very large application then BobbieBarker

[18:08:16] <dmack> can I just not return $q.all() and expect a promise?

[18:08:19] <werehuman> you dont imagine how many models i have

[18:08:25] <BobbieBarker> because this industry is full of hacks, and by hacks i mean tallentless sacks of shit

[18:08:29] <BobbieBarker> werehuman: yes

[18:08:33] <BobbieBarker> multiple large applications

[18:08:37] <jaawerth> also there are too many ways to do it, since new techniques have come into being as new features come into the spec

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[18:08:48] <werehuman> and you never used classeS?

[18:08:53] <werehuman> i mean, kind of

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[18:09:03] <BobbieBarker> in the classical sense?

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[18:09:06] <BobbieBarker> like with PHP?

[18:09:11] <werehuman> I just recenly learned about bject.create

[18:09:16] <werehuman> this is powerful

[18:09:17] <jaawerth> but writing a constructor and prototype, then inheriting with Object.create can get you pretty close

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[18:09:31] <BobbieBarker> i've used classes in JS like extending objects and the like, but it wasn't a big deal

[18:09:33] <werehuman> BobbieBarker: yes

[18:09:37] <BobbieBarker> yeah ofc

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[18:09:49] <BobbieBarker> prototype all day

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[18:09:52] <werehuman> I have base classes, with interfaces and styuff

[18:09:55] <jaawerth> the trick is not to just extend the objects directly if you need to instantiate a bunch, because that's slow

[18:10:03] <BobbieBarker> i agree

[18:10:08] <BobbieBarker> and thats what i usually do now

[18:10:12] <jaawerth> same

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[18:10:32] <nickeddy> what's the 'best practice' for having a function take in an arbitrary number of arguments?

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[18:10:41] <BobbieBarker> ugh it's been awhile since i've done that

[18:10:53] <nickeddy> i kind of dislike using the `arguments`

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[18:10:57] <BobbieBarker> you can do it with lodash

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[18:10:58] <ngbot> angular.js/master a808916 Brian Scoles: docs(guide/Expressions): fix grammar, flow and punctuation...

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[18:11:09] <zomg> nickeddy: having it accept an array of values can avoid some pitfalls with `arguments`

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[18:11:37] <nickeddy> yeah so far i'm seeing function (context) { } where context is just an object with params

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[18:11:44] <nickeddy> i guess that works

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[18:11:49] <BobbieBarker> anyone have any insight on my janky experience with animations? Specifically i've had problems with trying to slide things off the screen and have another element come in behind it

[18:12:03] <dmack> that's the easiest, but hard to follow if your comments/docs are horrible

[18:12:17] <nickeddy> dmack: oh they're awful. nah i'm going to jsdoc this :P

[18:12:22] <dmack> BobbieBarker: it's probably just css related

[18:12:24] <getn_outchea> If anyone has a minute, could you take a look at this? http://plnkr.co/edit/MFFS1SjJkMXW3wggmpxY I can't figure out why the input won't be disabled / enabled properly

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[18:12:31] <BobbieBarker> no doubt dmack

[18:12:32] <werehuman> css sucks

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[18:12:43] <BobbieBarker> it's just a little unrully

[18:12:45] <werehuman> im glad we have a designer in my team\

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[18:13:00] <dmack> lol, i don't understasnd JS devs who don't get CSS

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[18:13:05] <dmack> it's all just a part of the toolkit

[18:13:07] <jaawerth> with lodash it's as easy as function NewObj() { OldObj.call(this); }, NewObj.prototype = _.create(OldObj.prototype, {constructor: NewObj})

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[18:13:10] <ngbot> angular.js/master e50002b Grzegorz Marzencki: docs($resource): fix typo...

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[18:13:14] <nickeddy> getn_outchea: arr.data[0] is still defined even if it's "" i think

[18:13:15] <BobbieBarker> i don't not get css, i just prefer to not spend my time on it

[18:13:19] <werehuman> nickeddy: use .call

[18:13:30] <BobbieBarker> but i agree with you dmack it is apart of the skill set

[18:13:31] <werehuman> why is the chat window not scrolling automatically.......

[18:13:32] <dmack> the only thing that sucks with CSS is that there's no real scoping - shadow DOM hopefully will fix that

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[18:13:32] <AngularUI> ng-grid/master 8e6deaa Brian Hann: Fix bad js syntax

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[18:13:51] <dmack> polymer already uses it, etc.

[18:14:00] <jaawerth> ehh CSS has a bunch of things I don't like

[18:14:13] <jaawerth> the whole clearing the lightbox, content breaking out of containers, etc

[18:14:21] <getn_outchea> nickeddy: i thought that too but i tried ng-disabled="arr.data[0] == false" - which should work cause of == - and that didn't work either

[18:14:21] <jaawerth> it's getting better, though, and I do like flexbox

[18:14:25] <werehuman> besides css feels like a hacky science

[18:14:35] <werehuman> people just use chrome dev tools and thats it

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[18:14:47] <werehuman> no structure, no functions, nothing

[18:14:48] <BobbieBarker> css is one of those things that regardless of how you feel about it, you are going to have to use it, so you may as well jump on board with what ever the fuck they have going on

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[18:14:56] <jaawerth> I almost always use SASS now

[18:15:04] <werehuman> it doesnt change

[18:15:06] <dmack> i haven't written raw CSS in years

[18:15:10] <BobbieBarker> less is the shit

[18:15:15] <BobbieBarker> i'm learning angular material

[18:15:19] <BobbieBarker> and flex lay outs atm

[18:15:19] <dmack> less is less powerful, if that's what you mean

[18:15:24] <dmack> :D

[18:15:32] <dmack> material uses sass, fwiw

[18:15:33] <jaawerth> nesting, mixins, functions, variables

[18:15:37] <jaawerth> makes life batter

[18:15:37] <BobbieBarker> dmack i know that

[18:15:45] <werehuman> jaawerth: yes for a programmer

[18:15:51] <werehuman> but designers dont know that stuff

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[18:16:17] <werehuman> they just push padding, position absolute and that kind of shit

[18:16:19] <jaawerth> yeah well, I'm a one-man show (though that's going to change soon, thank god)

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[18:16:28] <dmack> material looks really promising. the flex layout stuff is definitely good.

[18:16:31] <werehuman> until it looks like the psd and say "here"

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[18:16:39] <jaawerth> I'm using material for a project right now

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[18:16:43] <jaawerth> decided to risk it

[18:16:46] <dmack> nice

[18:16:54] <nickeddy> getn_outchea: oh. you're referencing arr.data.... that doesn't exist.

[18:16:54] <werehuman> still on semantic ui

[18:16:54] <dmack> what are your thoughts so far?

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[18:17:10] <werehuman> though since im not the designer i have nothing to say in the matter

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[18:17:12] <jaawerth> it's nice but I don't like how much boilerplate it takes

[18:17:23] <jaawerth> I'm not a huge fan of directives where you pass everything in as attributes/strings

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[18:17:29] <jaawerth> so your markup gets hideous

[18:17:32] <dmack> yeah, a lot of seems pretty heavy handed.

[18:17:39] <dmack> when really it's just applying a class

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[18:18:05] <jaawerth> when I have time I'm going to build it myself and use the sass + code with some sparser directive syntax

[18:18:06] <dmack> werehuman: semantic UI looks nice, haven't seen that one

[18:18:07] <nickeddy> getn_outchea: http://plnkr.co/edit/hEirhaM4L3wznwXappYA?p=preview

[18:18:28] <werehuman> tried it only once for an hackathon

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[18:18:32] <jaawerth> for now I'm just wrapping the common element groupings with my own directives

[18:18:42] <werehuman> but i didnt really changed the style

[18:18:47] <werehuman> just used it as is

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[18:19:25] <dmack> does it have angular directives? or is just jquery garbage

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[18:20:08] <jaawerth> IIRC there are ng modules out there for it but I've never used them

[18:20:23] <dmack> http://angularify.github.io/angular-semantic-ui/

[18:20:33] <nickeddy> if only js had *args and **kwargs

[18:20:49] <werehuman> lol dmack

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[18:21:01] <werehuman> i started a project like this some while ago

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[18:21:14] <werehuman> didnt advanced well

[18:21:41] <BobbieBarker> jaawerth: you're using angular material for a project?

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[18:21:58] <BobbieBarker> I'm building an internal tools app for my employer using angular materrial

[18:22:02] <BobbieBarker> atm

[18:22:11] <jaawerth> yeah, just started the real layout stuff though

[18:22:18] <BobbieBarker> bit of a mind fuck isn't it?

[18:22:19] <BobbieBarker> lol

[18:22:21] <dmack> they need to give more concrete examples of app layouts.

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[18:22:33] <dmack> the docs are decent, but they don't mix a lot of components together.

[18:22:33] <BobbieBarker> they do, but once you start to get the hang of it, it isn't that bad

[18:22:36] <BobbieBarker> it's actually quite simple

[18:22:43] <jaawerth> it is, though I recently taught myself all the flexbox spec

[18:22:47] <dmack> basically they just need to replicate the bootstrap docs

[18:22:51] <dmack> like

[18:22:53] <jaawerth> so that made it easier to swallow

[18:22:56] <BobbieBarker> for me it was a big mind fuck going from grids to flex lay outs

[18:22:58] <dmack> here's you you make a horizontal form

[18:22:59] <dmack> etc

[18:23:08] <jaawerth> as a side project I"m playing with my own dynamci flex layout generator directive(s)

[18:23:12] <dmack> I think that's a big part of it, yeah

[18:23:15] <ses1984> so i got this working in a fiddle...but when i try to add something similar to the tutorial app, i get weird errors that bubble up from angular.js

[18:23:17] <jaawerth> (nothing ready to share yet)

[18:23:18] <ses1984> http://jsfiddle.net/efyves4k/

[18:23:19] <BobbieBarker> layout="row === horizontal form

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[18:23:21] <dmack> they make the assumption people understand flex layouts

[18:23:39] <ses1984> i keep getting, "Error: missing ; before statement" angular.js 11383

[18:23:39] <ingsoc> flex is the future

[18:23:40] <BobbieBarker> i'd agree with that dmack

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[18:23:45] <jaawerth> the trick is, I want the directives to check for browser compatibility with flex spec and fall back to JS when a browser has known issues with it

[18:24:05] <BobbieBarker> jaawerth: that's the advantage to this internal app. I don't have to give a fuck about fallback

[18:24:14] <ingsoc> not sure what is better about SASS v Less

[18:24:23] <dmack> old browsers can kindly fuck off

[18:24:24] <jaawerth> yeah, mine is also internal, which is nice since we have all modern browsers

[18:24:29] <ingsoc> I went with Less as it was the only option for bootstrap originally

[18:24:30] <jaawerth> but even IE11 has some flex issues IIRC

[18:24:44] <werehuman> ses1984: do you have an example?

[18:24:48] <werehuman> a plunker?

[18:24:52] <BobbieBarker> i didn't know that, internally almost everyone uses chrome and if they don't they can d/l it

[18:25:05] <jaawerth> um... sass is a little bit more robust, LESS is a bit cleaner and easier to learn and also JS-based, which has its advantages

[18:25:08] <BobbieBarker> ingsoc: imo it's just do you prefer JS syntax or ruby

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[18:25:24] <jaawerth> yeah I don't know how many people at my company use IE, I doubt it's many

[18:25:30] <jaawerth> lots of Chrome and FF

[18:25:34] <werehuman> lol

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[18:25:40] <dmack> BobbieBarker: irrelvant. node-sass

[18:25:48] <jaawerth> well, most of the SASS I write nowadays is SCSS

[18:25:49] <dmack> uses lib-sass

[18:25:51] <BobbieBarker> dmack: i didn't know that was a thing

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[18:25:58] <ses1984> werehuman:  let me see if i can push this to github or something

[18:26:00] <werehuman> in my company they still use ie for most of service

[18:26:02] <dmack> https://github.com/sass/node-sass

[18:26:06] <ingsoc> well I spose the using css braces etc. makes transition easier as normal CSS is understood

[18:26:08] <nickeddy> that's depressing werehuman

[18:26:10] <werehuman> most services

[18:26:12] <jaawerth> the syntax is still the same for .sass, but .scss is basically CSS3 syntax with extra magic

[18:26:15] <Zeioth> someone could to give it a watch please? -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27384849/angularjs-change-interpolateprovider-at-controller-level

[18:26:16] <werehuman> its not that uncommon

[18:26:29] <ingsoc> I also use coffeescript

[18:26:35] <dmack> I write SCSS because I like brackets.

[18:26:37] <werehuman> lol coffeescript

[18:26:40] <dmack> i'm weird like that

[18:26:42] <ingsoc> which I view as just making JS more usable

[18:26:44] <ingsoc> :)

[18:26:45] <BobbieBarker> boo coffeescript

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[18:26:47] <werehuman> i read coffeescript = "hipsterjs"

[18:26:50] <nickeddy> ^

[18:26:51] <dmack> ingsoc: you mean, less approachable?

[18:26:52] <jaawerth> I prefer brackets to indentation

[18:26:56] <ingsoc> this is what makes me laugh about development

[18:26:57] <nickeddy> i fkin hate coffeescript

[18:27:00] <BobbieBarker> i read coffeescript = i don't know how to write clean JS

[18:27:01] <ingsoc> it's religion

[18:27:05] <dmack> coffeescript is awful

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[18:27:08] <werehuman> like "i wrote cool javascript"

[18:27:09] <nickeddy> whitespace delimited = bleh

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[18:27:12] <BobbieBarker> and i need some one to tell me how to do it

[18:27:14] <dmack> go back to ruby

[18:27:15] <dmack> hipster

[18:27:21] <dmack> :D

[18:27:22] <BobbieBarker> lol

[18:27:24] <ingsoc> never programmed ruby in my life

[18:27:32] <dmack> and you like coffeescript?

[18:27:33] <dmack> wtf

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[18:27:38] <nickeddy> mainly a python and js guy here

[18:27:50] <jaawerth> I have nothing against it, I just haven't used it enough to find it readable

[18:27:50] <werehuman> i also like coffeescript

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[18:28:00] <werehuman> but its just for my own enjoyment

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[18:28:09] <werehuman> never used it in my real life projects

[18:28:13] <ingsoc> coffeescript is/has influenced ES6/7

[18:28:18] <dmack> when people post stuff on SO in javascript, but it's really coffeescript

[18:28:18] <werehuman> yes

[18:28:18] <ingsoc> so they are doing some things right

[18:28:28] <jaawerth> transpiled JS still makes me kinda nervous

[18:28:44] <BobbieBarker> it's just unecessary

[18:28:56] <nickeddy> arrow fns

[18:28:59] <nickeddy> so ugly

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[18:29:01] <werehuman> but its cool :D

[18:29:04] <dmack> it's necessary for large teams. hence typescript/atscript, etc

[18:29:06] <Azerty4> Hi

[18:29:14] <BobbieBarker> hello

[18:29:16] <ingsoc> I would assert if you think CS is shit compared to JS (based on objective not subjective criteria) then you don't know coffeescript

[18:29:17] <werehuman> using comprehsneions loops

[18:29:18] <werehuman> omg

[18:29:21] <werehuman> its so awesome

[18:29:22] <nickeddy> dmack: totally understand type safety etc but the ugly crap of the language ugh

[18:29:24] <Azerty4> Is this the best way to handle multiple checkbox for same field filtering ?

[18:29:24] <Azerty4> https://github.com/vitalets/checklist-model

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[18:29:49] <werehuman> the real biggest problem of CS

[18:29:58] <werehuman> is the indentation based stuff

[18:30:04] <nickeddy> is that they chose CS for the acronym, it's counterstrike.

[18:30:05] <werehuman> and the removal of parenthesis

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[18:31:18] <werehuman> and arrow lambda functions too

[18:31:28] <ingsoc> default args -, omprehencions, object/array unpacking, sane OOP, loads of pointless characters removed, help with scoping, prevention opf stupid unintentional things like global vars and coercing equality and top level global scope pollution

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[18:31:31] <werehuman> especially for functional programming callbacks

[18:31:31] <ingsoc> tip of iceberg

[18:31:34] <werehuman> like map and reduce

[18:31:38] <BobbieBarker> Azerty4: that's fine, i would also maybe look at the angular strap project if it fits what you're doing

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[18:32:05] <werehuman> ingsoc: at the contrary, scope handling in CS is awful

[18:32:09] <nickeddy> sorry but if code isn't readable by human it's worthless to me, and coffeescript seems to produce the most inane unreadable bullshit

[18:32:11] <ingsoc> alot of these things are how you should write JS anyway and also being added to ES6/7

[18:32:25] <ingsoc> i mean in practical terms

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[18:32:30] <werehuman> yes

[18:32:30] <ingsoc> forgetting var = a

[18:32:35] <werehuman> ingsoc I agree

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[18:32:37] <werehuman> but still

[18:32:37] <ingsoc> ert.

[18:32:45] <ingsoc> and also the top level soping

[18:32:46] <werehuman> removing parenthesis and semicolons

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[18:32:53] <nickeddy> ^

[18:32:55] <ingsoc> we an all make up hypothetial shortomings

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[18:33:00] <ingsoc> that no sane dev would fall in to

[18:33:12] <ingsoc> removal of ==

[18:33:12] <werehuman> also the "@" for this

[18:33:15] <werehuman> awful

[18:33:31] <BobbieBarker> yes

[18:33:32] <werehuman> and the removal of the function word

[18:33:38] <BobbieBarker> double yes

[18:33:42] <nickeddy> i think there's a point when there's too much "sugar"

[18:33:42] <werehuman> other than that CS is awesome

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[18:34:13] <werehuman> especially comprehensions, classes, interpolations, the null-equality check thingie

[18:34:20] <werehuman> like

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[18:34:30] <werehuman> myObj?.data?.thingie

[18:34:36] <werehuman> GORGEOUS

[18:34:52] <ingsoc> without CS JS just is painful long winded featureless

[18:34:53] <werehuman> no more myObj && myObj.data && myObj.data.thingie

[18:34:56] <jaawerth> I'm actually using ngResource for this project too, since I'm working with an API that isn't particularly restful

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[18:35:01] <ingsoc> soaking up null yeah

[18:35:04] <ingsoc> that is cool

[18:35:05] <ingsoc> in fact

[18:35:15] <ingsoc> http://aseemk.com/talks/intro-to-coffeescript

[18:35:17] <nickeddy> wtf

[18:35:18] <werehuman> hope it made thru ES6 though

[18:35:25] <jaawerth> blahblah/api/someReq?=bunchofweirdparams

[18:35:25] <BobbieBarker> if you want to look at complete shit API's i just had to integrate into healthcare.gov's web broker API

[18:35:25] <ingsoc> skim that

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[18:35:49] <jaawerth> BobbieBarker: did you a pure service with $http or something else?

[18:35:52] <werehuman> if we could only take a bunch of CS features

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[18:35:54] <ingsoc> tbh i might eventually switch to clojurescript

[18:35:59] <nickeddy> oh god

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[18:36:04] <werehuman> and still being able to use function(), var and this

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[18:36:08] <werehuman> CS would be the best

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[18:36:09] <BobbieBarker> $http and all the dark magic had to happen in the back end, their API uses SOAP && SAML

[18:36:12] <werehuman> but.

[18:36:23] <jaawerth> I considered just using $http and $interpolate to build the URL

[18:36:23] <BobbieBarker> and a standard webform

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[18:36:33] <jaawerth> but decided ngResource should be able to handle it for the most part

[18:36:40] <BobbieBarker> form action="" method=""

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[18:36:45] <nickeddy> jaawerth: can't recommend using $resource

[18:36:46] <BobbieBarker> value=""

[18:37:13] <BobbieBarker> jaawerth: that internal tool i'm building is using firebase as the back end

[18:37:14] <BobbieBarker> it's the shit

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[18:37:31] <jaawerth> nickeddy: why? I've avoided it up until now but it looks fairly simple, just $http with some url interpolation

[18:37:35] <werehuman> btw did someone used sockets?

[18:37:43] <nickeddy> jaawerth: doesn't use promises correctly

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[18:38:01] <jaawerth> can't you just avoid that with .$promise? or is even that broken?

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[18:38:28] <nickeddy> crappy workaround imo

[18:38:46] <ingsoc> anyone looked at any other transpiled languages

[18:38:51] <ingsoc> just wondering

[18:38:58] <nickeddy> nope js > all ingsoc

[18:39:07] <jaawerth> why? you can just wrap it in a service - the resource gives you the raw data when ready but you can just return the $promise from the service call

[18:39:16] <jaawerth> it's like $http only it handles more stuff for you automatically

[18:39:17] <werehuman> ingsoc: yeah scala

[18:39:21] <ingsoc> lol oh dear you're gonna have a rough time in IT then

[18:39:27] <nickeddy> jaawerth: because you don't have to with Restangular or $resource

[18:39:54] <nickeddy> ingsoc: i'm plenty fluent in other languages, tell me when CS actually runs in browser

[18:39:56] <jaawerth> don't have to wrap?

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[18:40:11] <ingsoc> nickeddy:  i don;t are about CS

[18:40:11] <nickeddy> jaawerth: err i meant Restangular or $http

[18:40:24] <ingsoc> i was just saying it makes JS suk less

[18:40:25] <nickeddy> jaawerth: but yeah, they return promises by default

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[18:40:33] <jaawerth> well you'd be wrapping $http anyway

[18:40:37] <jaawerth> unless you're crazy

[18:40:38] <ingsoc> don't are*

[18:40:44] <nickeddy> i don't think JS sucks

[18:40:44] <ingsoc> care* omg

[18:40:51] <ingsoc> keyboard problems

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[18:41:08] <ingsoc> ok, i mean, in my opinion it helps overome some JS shortomings

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[18:41:25] <ingsoc> it is far from being my favourite language

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[18:41:33] <werehuman> i think its hypocrite to say that js > all when you dont write in pure vanilla JS

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[18:42:09] <werehuman> i have someone in my company who only writes vanilla JS

[18:42:09] <nickeddy> how am i not writing in vanilla JS? this library is written in JS

[18:42:17] <werehuman> except for things such as ajax requests

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[18:42:29] <dmack> werehuman: document.getElementById ftw

[18:42:36] <jaawerth> libraries are a part of every programming language

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[18:42:39] <nickeddy> ^

[18:42:43] <BobbieBarker> JS is my favorite language

[18:42:54] <dmack> my favorite language is angular

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[18:42:57] <dmack> wait

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[18:43:00] <BobbieBarker> lol

[18:43:04] <werehuman> yes but we are not talking about simple libraries

[18:43:10] <werehuman> we are talking about frameworks

[18:43:15] <dmack> you mean like Spring MVC?

[18:43:18] <dmack> or Rails?

[18:43:22] <nickeddy> werehuman: you can say that about ANY language

[18:43:23] <nickeddy> so no

[18:43:28] <BobbieBarker> if you guys want a good laugh check this out

[18:43:29] <BobbieBarker> http://okmaya.com/2014/03/12/the-reason-angular-js-will-fail/

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[18:43:39] <dmack> lol, that article is such troll bait

[18:43:42] <werehuman> how many people know what is Object.create? Array.prototype.slice? etc

[18:43:49] <ingsoc> I don't agree that using angular means you don't use pure JS

[18:43:52] <ingsoc> that is stupid

[18:43:52] <Guest98520> Easy question - by just including angular sanitize, will it strip script injection in all my inputs? Or do I have to manually go through and sanitize every input?

[18:44:01] <nickeddy> BobbieBarker: or, how to use js and angular incorrectly?

[18:44:02] <werehuman> its not the point out there ingsoc

[18:44:03] <ingsoc> your app is written in JS the library is a small part of it

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[18:44:18] <werehuman> i mean its hypocrite to devalue writing in CS saying its not javascript

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[18:44:35] <nickeddy> werehuman: no you were talking about vanilla js

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[18:45:02] <werehuman> exactly

[18:45:12] <nickeddy> and you said no one uses vanilla js which is total bullshit

[18:45:18] <dmack> " I get all sorts of backlash about how I suck at programming."

[18:45:21] <werehuman> i didnt say that

[18:45:22] <dmack> lol

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[18:45:33] <nickeddy> 10:41 < werehuman> i think its hypocrite to say that js > all when you dont write in pure vanilla JS

[18:45:44] <werehuman> so?

[18:45:48] <tristanp> This doesn't work without adding $apply: https://gist.github.com/tristanpendergrass/6eec3ea45df9b87ff8ca. Shouldn't it work by itself though? I would think that $on would start the digest cycle

[18:45:49] <werehuman> this is what i meant

[18:46:01] <nickeddy> lol "so?" best response ever

[18:46:05] <werehuman> if you can use a level of abstraction through a framweork

[18:46:27] <werehuman> why is that bad to use another level which is a transpiled language

[18:46:42] <nickeddy> i'm not saying it is, but for ME, it's harder to read and understand what's happening

[18:46:48] <nickeddy> therefore it's less useful for me

[18:46:53] <Guest98520> Ping - anyone here know the answer to my question?   Easy question - by just including angular sanitize, will it strip script injection in all my inputs? Or do I have to manually go through and sanitize every input?

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[18:46:56] <nickeddy> just stating how i see it

[18:47:08] <werehuman> i agree with you nickeddy

[18:47:23] <ingsoc> he didn't say no-one writes vanilla js, but he did imply you didn't write in vanilla JS os you were using angular (presumably ?)

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[18:47:32] <icfantv> random question for anyone using 64-bit chrome on a mac:  do you have servers at work with unsigned certificates such that you get the warning when you visit an https site?  if so, are you able to bypass it?

[18:47:35] <jaawerth> Guest98520: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$sce automatic unless you disable $sce

[18:47:38] <dmack> i use for loops, so i write in vanilla JS

[18:47:45] <nickeddy> lol

[18:47:52] <ses1984> werehuman: https://github.com/stevesta/angular-phonecat/commit/b390fb00bb70a7c6b7b5a6ea87da5c49447ebf62

[18:48:04] <nickeddy> i'm using javascript as the language for my front end, so i write in vanilla JS sometimes

[18:48:15] <maraneta> i'm trying to use protractor to test multiple urls for my e2e tests...  i'm first testing foo, and then bar.  however, my page runs browser.get('bar') before all the tests on the first page are complete... how can I fix this?

[18:48:17] <nickeddy> sure, a lot of it is abstracted by angular

[18:48:17] <Guest98520> jaawerth: awesome thanks so much

[18:48:18] <jaawerth> yeah, I don't get why people so infrequently use native for loops for arrays, since they're so much faster

[18:48:23] <nickeddy> but that's the god damn point

[18:48:24] <ingsoc> nickeddy: yes, I think you an take  cs too far

[18:48:30] <jaawerth> forEach makes sense for objects, not so much for arrays

[18:48:38] <nickeddy> jaawerth: lodash can do either fast as fuck

[18:48:41] <dmack> jaawerth: a lot of the times the performance is negligible

[18:48:46] <BobbieBarker> lodash is fucking awesome

[18:48:47] <ingsoc> can*

[18:48:50] <dmack> readability > performance, lots of times.

[18:48:50] <jaawerth> nickeddy: lodash is still a lot slower than native for

[18:48:53] <jaawerth> IIRC

[18:48:58] <dmack> yeah

[18:49:01] <jaawerth> but that's true, it's often negligible

[18:49:01] <dmack> but how much slower?

[18:49:02] <nickeddy> jaawerth: let me go find some benchmarks

[18:49:05] <BobbieBarker> lodash is faster than native

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[18:49:10] <dmack> wut

[18:49:16] <nickeddy> https://lodash.com/benchmarks

[18:49:17] <jaawerth> compared to native forEach

[18:49:20] <jaawerth> not compared to a for loop

[18:49:39] <BobbieBarker> also lodash adds readability in my opinion

[18:49:44] <nickeddy> ^

[18:49:46] <dmack> yes

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[18:49:52] <AngularUI> ng-grid/master 1e98d62 Brian Hann: Remove explicit selenium version option

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[18:49:59] <nickeddy> far more concerned with the next guy taking over my project than 3ms of performance here and there

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[18:50:07] <BobbieBarker> i agree

[18:50:11] <werehuman> ses1984: which version of angular are you running

[18:50:14] <dmack> if you cared about performance you'd use pure vanilla js amirite

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[18:50:26] <nickeddy> dmack: nah assembly

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[18:50:39] <Crumb> can you continue in a lodash forloop though?

[18:50:44] <werehuman> never mind i have my answer

[18:50:48] <ses1984> werehuman AngularJS v1.3.2

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[18:50:51] <ngbot> [angular.js] pkozlowski-opensource pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/RjevoQ

[18:50:51] <ngbot> angular.js/master 3b5ba87 Pawel Kozlowski: refactor($http): drop superfluous argument to sendReq...

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[18:51:09] <ingsoc> I though now with all the super fast JS implementations out there that we would be over doing premature optimisations anyway

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[18:51:21] <nickeddy> yeah

[18:51:30] <dmack> most people are

[18:51:34] <jaawerth> benchmarks http://jsperf.com/foreach-vs-loop/43

[18:51:37] <ses1984> werehuman: compare that to this fiddle: http://jsfiddle.net/efyves4k/

[18:51:38] <nickeddy> optimization requires a lot of profiling for it to be effective at all

[18:51:40] <jaawerth> and that isn't a premature optimization

[18:52:17] <nickeddy> jaawerth: that's an old ass version of lodash

[18:52:24] <jaawerth> if you're dealing with an array, a simple for loop is no less reliable than forEach, and it isn't a "clever" hack to improve performance at the cost of simplicity, it's one of the basic patterns of programming

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[18:53:32] <jaawerth> nickeddy: so it is. I'll update it

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[18:54:12] <werehuman> i also have an error ses1984

[18:54:20] <werehuman> willl look into it

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[18:55:04] <ses1984> i really like angular, but like many frameworks...if you do something slightly wrong and you cause an error within the framework it can be really hard to pinpoint

[18:55:10] <nickeddy> jaawerth: http://jsperf.com/angular-foreach-vs-native-for-loop/29

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[18:56:19] <nickeddy> jaawerth: yeah native for can be fast but look at how god damn ugly that is. you have to do caching and weird shit to get it to be that performant

[18:56:29] <ingsoc> ses1984:  take baby steps, always use version control and always test on changes and always watch the JS console is the way to do client side web dev

[18:56:52] <BobbieBarker> i agree with nickeddy

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[18:57:00] <ingsoc> much less liely to get in a situation you didn't know how you got to

[18:57:01] <ses1984> that's what i'm trying. i got it working in a fiddle and tried to adapt it almost exactly to the tutorial app, and here i am

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[18:57:47] <jaawerth> nickeddy: it's still twice as fast without caching

[18:57:52] <jaawerth> and I really don't see it as being that ugly

[18:58:06] <jaawerth> I mean, it's a for loop, I've seen it a million times on a hundred languages

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[18:58:16] <jaawerth> (okay maybe a hundred thousand times on ten languages)

[18:58:16] <dmack> for loops are fine

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[18:58:30] <nickeddy> jaawerth: okay, what's "var d = stats[i],dw = d.window || 0;" do ?

[18:58:31] <dmack> lodash isn't really designed to replace for loops

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[18:59:50] <jaawerth> dmack, exactly

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[19:00:04] <dmack> a loop really isn't a utility

[19:00:20] <werehuman> ses1984: http://plnkr.co/edit/?p=preview

[19:00:21] <jaawerth> nickeddy: the non-cached version is still three times faster than the lodash forEach

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[19:00:45] <jaawerth> don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of situations where forEach is preferably, particularly functional programming

[19:00:47] <werehuman> however filter is bad with arrays

[19:00:50] <jaawerth> or if you're using an object

[19:00:55] <werehuman> especially when you create new arrays

[19:00:59] <werehuman> its not made for that

[19:01:01] <ses1984> werehuman i dont think your link came over correctly

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[19:01:13] <jaawerth> werehuman: forgot to save your plunk

[19:01:15] <nickeddy> jaawerth: still 15m ops/s

[19:01:16] <ses1984> werehuman i'm very new to angular i was trying to work through a problem someone had asked in here earlier as an exercise

[19:01:18] <werehuman> http://plnkr.co/edit/Br3bMPHnrHHhkNSCBSR6?p=preview

[19:01:22] <nickeddy> jaawerth: fast enough i believe is the term

[19:01:24] <werehuman> eys sorry

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[19:01:40] <ses1984> so i'm pretty sure i was doing things the "angular way" because i dont really know what that is yet

[19:01:44] <jaawerth> yeah, but there's no benefit unless you need to create a closure

[19:01:45] <werehuman> i had a similar problem recently

[19:01:51] <werehuman> trying to use map in a filter

[19:01:56] <jaawerth> er, that is, do functional programming

[19:02:04] <werehuman> turned out wrong, so i used the map in the controller instead

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[19:02:15] <BobbieBarker> I think the bottom line is you may save a few microseconds with native, but with those super cached loops you're sacraficing readability and maintainability

[19:02:30] <jaawerth> I'm not advocating the super-cached loops though

[19:02:38] <ses1984> werehuman: so i see you able to basically copy the fiddle over into plunker and it works

[19:02:39] <jaawerth> I'm just saying: simple for loop. aint broke, don't fix it (for arrays)

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[19:03:06] <jaawerth> there's very little benefit to the forEach approach unless you have a good reason to pass in callbacks

[19:03:11] <werehuman> where are you testing it? locally ?

[19:03:19] <ses1984> but what about adapting it to the tutorial app...from my point of view the filter script and the template look ok, where do you think the error within angular.js comes from

[19:03:24] <BobbieBarker> jaawerth: i see where you're coming from

[19:03:41] <ses1984> yeah i'm testing it locally with npm start, just like if you would worth through the tutorial

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[19:03:50] <BobbieBarker> i think for me i prefer a consistent approach, maybe if i had a fucking huge data set that was creating very noticable lag i'd implement an optimized approach

[19:04:01] <BobbieBarker> and by consistent i mean lodash for loops

[19:04:02] <jaawerth> yeah, it's only going to be a big deal for a larger data set

[19:04:10] <BobbieBarker> no doubt dude

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[19:04:13] <werehuman> i dont know about the errors

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[19:04:16] <jaawerth> but it's such an easy optimization - you simply have to not do something instead of doing it ;-)

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[19:04:24] <BobbieBarker> jaawerth: lol

[19:04:30] <nickeddy> BobbieBarker: and even then, i've not noticed any lag at 1000s of elements in arrays. fwiw.

[19:04:32] <werehuman> you can always debug though chrome and trace why it says the error about the ;

[19:04:41] <dmack> and if it's a large data set, do it on the server anyway

[19:04:43] <dmack> hah

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[19:04:50] <BobbieBarker> i agree nickeddy i've ran large-ish datasets and not noticed anything

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[19:05:05] <nickeddy> BobbieBarker: premature optimization is the root of all evil, i keep saying that

[19:05:06] <dmack> 1000 is large?

[19:05:13] <nickeddy> :P

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[19:05:14] <BobbieBarker> 1000 is not large

[19:05:16] <dmack> :D

[19:05:29] <nickeddy> i mean thousands. so like 100k?

[19:05:29] <BobbieBarker> i need to get some work done

[19:05:32] <werehuman> ses1984: what if instead of returning an array you return a string ?

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[19:05:39] <BobbieBarker> unfortunately this chat is more interesting that triaging jira tickets

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[19:05:41] <jaawerth> nickeddy: I'd actually argue that using a superstructure of a simple process is the premature optimization, only it actually worsens performance. That's kind of my point

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[19:06:29] <jaawerth> we're not talking about a hack or a workaround here, just something built right into every programming language down to assembly

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[19:06:34] <nickeddy> lol

[19:06:34] <jaawerth> well, not assembly

[19:06:46] <nickeddy> i know.

[19:06:51] <jaawerth> I mean you can do it, but you need gotos

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[19:07:34] <ses1984> werehuman: what do you mean?

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[19:07:57] <werehuman> let me try it in my machine

[19:07:58] <ses1984> werehuman: i would rather not try to just make this work by trial and error, and try to figure out what's going wrong

[19:07:59] <werehuman> just a moment

[19:08:09] <ses1984> if i don't know what's going on i'm never going to be able to think correctly in angular

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[19:08:33] <werehuman> yes but from what i see i dont think you are erring

[19:08:45] <ses1984> surely this is not a bug in angular

[19:08:54] <ses1984> i don't want to assume that until i've exhausted any other option

[19:09:16] <werehuman> how do you run the app?

[19:09:47] <werehuman> never mind found it

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[19:09:59] <ses1984> just like the tutorial, git clone the tut repo, cd to the working directory, check out a step, npm start

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[19:10:40] <werehuman> Syntax Error: Token '.0' is an unexpected token at column 4

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[19:10:43] <werehuman> i have this

[19:10:53] <werehuman> did you ?

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[19:11:17] <werehuman> this is bcz angular forbids about using properties as indexes

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[19:11:30] <ses1984> i did not see that message, how did you get it

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[19:11:57] <werehuman> on the phone detail page

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[19:13:07] <ses1984> hmm that'

[19:13:12] <ses1984> that's more informative than what i'm seeing

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[19:13:32] <ses1984> i see "Error: missing ; before statement   angular.js:11383" and then some huuuge stack trace

[19:13:34] <werehuman> yes

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[19:13:40] <werehuman> and i just run the application

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[19:13:44] <ses1984> that's whether i do {{ pair.0 }} or {{ pair[0] }}

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[19:13:53] <werehuman> maybe you have an older version of angular into your bower cache

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[19:14:30] <jaawerth> ses1984: fixed http://plnkr.co/edit/mtH4GOIzCmlifoqatOKN?p=preview

[19:14:31] <ses1984> oh wait i'm running npm start on the tutorial repo not my repo. woops. let me run it in the rigth dir

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[19:14:37] <werehuman> take a look in the bower_components folder

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[19:15:09] <ses1984> jaawerth: there was never an issue in the fiddle/ the little test harness

[19:15:11] <werehuman> now i still have the error about the filter returning an array

[19:15:21] <ses1984> the issue is if i try to do something similar in the tutorial app

[19:16:01] <werehuman> also it is looking for phone.images, but i see nothing of the sort

[19:16:09] <werehuman> or maybe this is something you need to do in the tuto

[19:16:11] <jaawerth> ses1984: really? I had a ton of errors on the console

[19:16:16] <jaawerth> it ran too many digests and quit

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[19:16:37] <werehuman> yes but his error was about a semicolon

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[19:16:57] <jaawerth> oh, didn't see that

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[19:17:54] <jaawerth> well that's how you do a custom filter with an array, anyway

[19:17:55] <ses1984> hmm jaawerth i guess i do see those errors on the console but the output i get is expected. that's weird?

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[19:19:07] <jaawerth> well, the problem is that custom filters take the whole array/object. the way the digest watches things is that it caches a copy to check for changes, and that works fine for basic things because it compares them strict equality (===)

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[19:19:08] <werehuman> maybe its a feature from plunker

[19:19:12] <jaawerth> but that will fail for two identical objects

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[19:19:35] <jaawerth> but it only fails after 10 digests, and by then it's rendered things as expected already

[19:19:35] <werehuman> yes such as array

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[19:19:59] <jaawerth> since the plunk has no other other rendering that COULD fail, you don't notice because it failed after everythign was rendered

[19:20:21] <werehuman> i see

[19:20:28] <jaawerth> my fix was to cache the values myself and do a deep comparison

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[19:20:47] <ses1984> what if you wanted to use a different strategy to solve this "group by two" problem instead of a filter, what could you do

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[19:20:54] <jaawerth> it's still going to be more expensive than is preferable, but cheaper than rerunning the filter, and it avoids an infinite loop

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[19:21:05] <werehuman> ah the memoize fix

[19:21:10] <werehuman> i used that as well

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[19:22:13] <jaawerth> the only downside is that the deep comparison could be expensive for a huge object

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[19:22:18] <werehuman> but i didnt use angular.equals but ===

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[19:22:28] <jaawerth> the === COULD work, I think it depends

[19:22:44] <werehuman> thus it started giving me headaches when the data changed

[19:22:58] <nickeddy> for giant object stuff i use JSON.stringify(obj) === JSON.stringify(otherObj)

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[19:23:05] <nickeddy> tends to work

[19:23:07] <jaawerth> oh wait, the === DOES work

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[19:23:11] <werehuman> yes

[19:23:21] <jaawerth> it's not the input that needs to match, it's the output, adn by returning the cached output you solve that

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[19:23:24] <jaawerth> once sec, updating plunk

[19:23:27] <jaawerth> that makes it MUCH more performant

[19:23:43] <werehuman> yes but _.memoize is checking the input IIRC

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[19:24:18] <ses1984> could you please elaborate what you mean by "the way the  digest watches things

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[19:24:44] <ses1984> what's "the digest" the part within the angular framework that's reading input?

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[19:24:55] <jaawerth> _.memoize is fine, but sort of unnecessary here

[19:25:04] <werehuman> ses1984: bascially angular is caching the scope variables so when they change, angular runs the digest cycle

[19:25:12] <jaawerth> plus then you'll be caching it for every single input to the filter over time, when you really only need to track the previous one

[19:25:17] <werehuman> so for primitive values its okay

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[19:25:18] <ngbot> [angular.js] pkozlowski-opensource pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/9QnqxQ

[19:25:18] <ngbot> angular.js/master b3dfb38 Pawel Kozlowski: refactor($http): avoid using closure vars in serverRequest fn...

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[19:25:29] <jaawerth> it COULD be preferable to do that, I guess, but it could also just be unnecessary memory consumption

[19:25:44] <jaawerth> ses1984: fixed http://plnkr.co/edit/mtH4GOIzCmlifoqatOKN?p=preview

[19:25:54] <werehuman> jaawerth: i dont care about perf at this point

[19:26:07] <werehuman> but still there was a problem

[19:26:15] <werehuman> when i send it the same input

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[19:26:22] <caitp> is an 18 year scotch a lazy gift or not a bad christmas present

[19:26:28] <werehuman> it was always returning the same output

[19:26:28] <jaawerth> well, the only reason you WOULD use memoize instead of just caching it like I did there is if you wanted to improve performance by storing more function results

[19:26:33] <jaawerth> otherwise, KISS

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[19:26:56] <caitp> it's pretty lazy if there isn't much thought put into it

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[19:27:04] <caitp> but if they like it, that's what counts

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[19:27:29] <werehuman> i just didnt see it that way

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[19:27:52] <jaawerth> it's a minor difference really

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[19:27:57] <werehuman> if i was passing here at the time i wouldnt need to fucking inject my filters inside my controllers ...

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[19:28:33] <jaawerth> _.memoize is awesome, just easy to find yourself with memory leaks if used lightly

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[19:28:42] <werehuman> is not only that

[19:28:45] <werehuman> like i said

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[19:28:56] <werehuman> memoize, given the same input, always return the same output

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[19:29:37] <jaawerth> right, it's good for idempotent things

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[19:29:50] <werehuman> but what i was passing it as input

[19:29:53] <werehuman> was a collection

[19:29:53] <jaawerth> well, not just idempotent but predictable

[19:30:00] <werehuman> that i wanted to apply map on it

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[19:30:16] <ses1984> i'm sorry i'm trying to go though all these plunkers and i don't see which solution used memoize?

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[19:30:29] <werehuman> and deep comparison doesnt go well with collections

[19:30:32] <jaawerth> yeah we're getting off base - I think werehuman is talking about something they did a while back

[19:30:42] <werehuman> so it was only checking the reference to the array i think

[19:30:45] <ses1984> oh i see

[19:30:49] <jaawerth> probably, yeah

[19:30:59] <ses1984> you used a memoize solution in the past, there isn't one pasted anywhere in this discussion

[19:31:02] <jaawerth> you need to use a haskhey if you want to use a collection

[19:31:04] <jaawerth> (or something along those lines)

[19:31:08] <werehuman> yes ses1984

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[19:31:28] <werehuman> yes i tried that as well

[19:31:33] <werehuman> using the $hashkey stuff

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[19:31:35] <werehuman> didnt work

[19:31:36] <jaawerth> that can get complicated, but basically as you change hte collection you'd have a unique hash that mutates with it

[19:31:42] <jaawerth> it can be hard to get right

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[19:32:13] <werehuman> so we decided to throw it all altogether and not use filters

[19:32:23] <werehuman> throwing the baby with the water

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[19:32:35] <werehuman> harder to test though

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[19:33:23] <werehuman> okay its getting late i should get going

[19:33:29] <werehuman> thanks for the help ?

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[19:34:53] <ngbot> [angular.js] caitp pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/YQ3xIg

[19:34:54] <ngbot> angular.js/master a097aa9 Caitlin Potter: fix(orderBy): do not try to call valueOf/toString on `null`...

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[19:35:09] <ses1984> no thank you!

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[19:36:05] <ses1984> ok so i'm sorry to backtrack but i'm still a little hung up on the digest stuff.

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[19:36:28] <ses1984> "custom filters take the whole array/obejct, the way the digest watches things is that it cahces a copy to check for changes"

[19:37:03] <ses1984> ok, so that means, in this line <ul ng-repeat="pair in test_array | group_by_two "> it takes the whole test_array object ... but it's not changing, right?

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[19:37:24] <ses1984> that would map the argument named input inside the filter and input is never changing

[19:37:46] <ses1984> only input_by_two is changing. is that also considered a scope variable even though it's inside the filter function?

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[19:38:33] <ses1984> i'm reading this now hopefully that illuminates things https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/type/$rootScope.Scope#$digest

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[19:38:52] <jaawerth> ses1984: the problem was that every time the filter runs with the same input on a digest (which it will do every digest), the output is an identical object with a different reference, and the digest is comparing the outputs by === (reference comparison, when it's an object)

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[19:39:17] <jaawerth> ses1984: and the digest always runs at least twice to check for stability - if the output changes, it runs ANOTHER digest until it stabilizes.

[19:39:22] <ses1984> in this example isn't the filter only run once?

[19:39:40] <jaawerth> so since your filter results have a different reference output every time it's run with the same input, it was causing that dirty-checking to go into an infinite loop

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[19:40:08] <jaawerth> ses1984: the fix works because it's keeping your last output stored in filterCache, and if the input matches the inputCache, it just returns that one - the same object with the same reference

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[19:40:46] <dmack> with 1.3 you can make your filters only run if there's a discreet diff.

[19:40:51] <jaawerth> bonus: this also means the whole function won't rerun with the same input every time the digest runs while dirty-checking, since it's just returning filterCache when they match

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[19:41:13] <adamsilver> what do you guys use for data grids?

[19:41:19] <ses1984> oh i think i'm getting it now

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[19:41:38] <dmack> adamsilver: smart-table is nice

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[19:42:41] <icfantv> dumb question:  what's the opposite of on('$destroy',…)?

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[19:43:06] <jaawerth> dmack: oh? where's that option?

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[19:43:13] <dmack> looking in the docs

[19:43:16] <ses1984> jaawerth: thanks very much

[19:43:19] <dmack> buried somewhere

[19:43:27] <ses1984> everything is clear now

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[19:43:41] <jaawerth> it's not in $filter or $filterProvider

[19:43:56] <jaawerth> I don't think you mean $stateful, since that's something kinda different

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[19:45:08] <adamsilver> dmack: it looks like exactly what i am looking for, thanks!

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[19:45:29] <dmack> I did, sorry. probably not enough context

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[19:46:02] <dmack> wait

[19:46:03] <dmack> sec

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[19:46:32] <dmack> https://egghead.io/lessons/angularjs-new-in-angular-1-3-stateless-filters

[19:46:37] <ses1984> so another question, i'm sorry i'm repeating myself, but: if you had to solve this group by two problem, what approach would you take other than filters

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[19:47:06] <ses1984> or is filter the way to go after you figure out the little idiosyncracies of angular digest

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[19:48:12] <jaawerth> hmmm wait - come to think of it, you still need to use angular.equals

[19:48:12] <icfantv> anyone?  opposite of on.('$destroy',…)?

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[19:48:33] <jaawerth> the === approach will incorrectly remain a match if the contents of the object changes

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[19:49:03] <ses1984> if the contents changes but the reference stays the same

[19:49:03] <sojic> dmack, any idea how to "split" array in 2 columns? http://jsfiddle.net/gofdd4t2/1/

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[19:49:20] <ses1984> and you know the reference stays the same because all that's set internally in the function

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[19:50:06] <jaawerth> yeah

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[19:50:14] <jaawerth> so angular.equals will be necessary to do a deep comparison

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[19:50:36] <ses1984> or other comparison technique that was suggested like stringifying both sides

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[19:50:53] <jaawerth> I don't know if that would be cheaper

[19:51:02] <dmack> sojic: looking

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[19:51:37] <dmack> I dont see any javascript?

[19:51:39] <sojic> Probably something with array.slice

[19:51:45] <sojic> No, there is no javascript

[19:52:01] <sojic> how to achieve it?

[19:52:11] <jaawerth> hm I have a thought

[19:52:23] <dmack> split an array based on what?

[19:52:35] <ses1984> sojic we are actually all still talking about your original question

[19:52:35] <sojic> Based on half :)

[19:52:36] <dmack> you want an array of arrays?

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[19:53:36] <dmack> array.splice(array.length - (array.length / 2))

[19:53:48] <dmack> havent tested that at all

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[19:54:12] <sojic> Let me try, and will post the example code

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[19:54:52] <ses1984> stupid quesiton, how do you save a plunker, do you have to be signed into github

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[19:55:13] <nickeddy> ses1984: hit fork at the upper left hand corner

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[19:55:17] <nickeddy> ses1984: or save

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[19:55:28] <ses1984> i dont see save up there

[19:55:56] <ses1984> anyway, sojic, here is the solution to the question you asked before http://plnkr.co/edit/KiBl1i4YXpqlFNs4x8Gu?p=preview

[19:56:04] <ses1984> the group_by_two filter

[19:56:24] <ses1984> also you missed a lot of discussion covering why the implementation has to use inputCache and filterCache

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[19:57:37] <sojic> ses1984, thanks... It seams it was bad idea.... so changing instead to print 3 rows with 2 items, I decide to print 2 rows with 3 items. Similar concept.

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[19:58:09] <jaawerth> hmm, I was thinking maybe you could use angular's $$hashkey but it doesn't apply here

[19:58:28] <ses1984> you could modify that filter to group_by_three, you just have to change the i=i+2 to i+3, and the push line

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[19:58:54] <ses1984> would it possible to generalize this filter to group_by_x and pass in x?

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[19:59:00] <aendrew> Hey, I have a provider that returns a promise, which I’m resolving via .then() and attaching to $rootScope in an angular.module.run() block. Is there any way to ensure the promise is resolved before my controller expects it?

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[19:59:46] <aendrew> Not using ui-router, ngRouter or anything like that, though considering migrating to ui-router as per http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27050496/run-controllers-only-after-initialization-is-complete-in-angularjs/27050497#27050497

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[20:02:14] <AngularUI> [ng-grid] c0bra pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vDlUAA

[20:02:14] <AngularUI> ng-grid/master f215f80 Brian Hann: Release v3.0.0-RC.18

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[20:03:48] <tome_hr> hello!

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[20:05:01] <dmack> herro

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[20:05:42] <tome_hr> newbie question: is it me onlly or trere are no any chatting?

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[20:06:01] <dmack> bring up vanilla js and there will be plenty of chat

[20:06:11] <jaawerth> haha wait

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[20:06:11] <dmack> right nickeddy ?

[20:06:14] <jaawerth> that fix is still broken

[20:06:14] <ses1984> you missed a pretty cool discussion about angular digest and how it applies within filters

[20:06:15] <jaawerth> one sec

[20:06:21] <ses1984> really

[20:06:22] <ses1984> ?

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[20:06:45] <nickeddy> dmack: lol

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[20:07:20] <tome_hr> ok..another newbie question: why official doc/tutorial still encourages $scope instead controller as and $this?

[20:07:20] <jaawerth> ses1984: yeah, the problem is that the deep compare is going to pass every single subsequent run as it is right now

[20:07:27] <jaawerth> because they're the same object reference

[20:07:29] <jaawerth> lol

[20:07:31] <tome_hr> its confusing

[20:07:38] <jaawerth> so updating the array is going to update both of them

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[20:08:58] <ses1984> so you need to modfy the line inputCache = input

[20:09:01] <ses1984> right?

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[20:09:46] <ses1984> or modify filterCache = input_by_two

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[20:09:51] <ses1984> i can't think straight i'm eating lunch

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[20:11:34] <jaawerth> yeah, just drinking to think the most elegant approach

[20:11:38] <jaawerth> er, trying

[20:11:39] <jaawerth> hahh

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[20:11:48] <ses1984> lol

[20:11:59] <ses1984> drinking to think...just have to find that ballmer peak

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[20:15:32] <dmack> this is a really nice trick for handling ngSubmit with controllerAs

[20:15:33] <dmack> http://www.technofattie.com/2014/07/01/using-angular-forms-with-controller-as-syntax.html

[20:15:38] <dmack> didn't even think about that.

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[20:18:30] <adamsilver> looks like restangular is not maintained anymore

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[20:18:39] <dmack> #downwith$scope

[20:18:39] <jaawerth> ooh okay this is kind of a premature optimization but it's a cool one

[20:18:43] <nickeddy> dmack: i always do var vm = this; at the start of my controllers

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[20:18:58] <nickeddy> adamsilver: i still use it with 1.3, no issues here

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[20:19:16] <dmack> nickeddy: me too :)

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[20:19:29] <dmack> adamsilver: we use restangular as well. works fine

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[20:22:01] <adamsilver> but it looks like the last commit was a few months ago

[20:22:21] <ses1984> that's not that bad

[20:23:14] <ses1984> maybe the dev was pissed about the angular 1.4 announcement

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[20:23:38] <ses1984> i mean 2.0

[20:23:46] <Foxandxss> mgonto was working with a new version of restangular

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[20:23:56] <Foxandxss> but I think he recently got a new job, so it is expected to have delays

[20:24:05] <dmack> how do we feel about putting controller methods on the prototype?

[20:24:26] <jaawerth> ack,  doesn't work. the only solution is to either run both angular.equals AND angular.copy or to write a function that deep compares and copies at the same time

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[20:25:11] <ses1984> this solution is getting so ugly, surely there must be a better way than using filters, than trying to force filters to do something that doesn't fit well with angular digest

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[20:25:56] <dmack> just manipulate your data first?

[20:26:00] <ses1984> if this is all happening in the template the hands of the designer, why not just...don't output group by two and use css to group by two

[20:26:28] <ses1984> but how can you "manipulate your data first" in just the html template

[20:26:41] <jaawerth> ses1984: http://plnkr.co/edit/mtH4GOIzCmlifoqatOKN?p=preview

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[20:26:46] <dmack> ses1984: you wouldn't

[20:26:54] <dmack> I dont have much context, sorry

[20:26:54] <ses1984> hmm not a fair constraint, when the group_by_two filter is in angular already

[20:26:54] <jaawerth> that works, but it could take performance hits for large arrays that change frequently

[20:27:22] <ses1984> jaawerth what's the purpose of inputRand

[20:27:32] <jaawerth> oh, that's trash - I'm gonna toss it

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[20:28:01] <jaawerth> I was experimenting with attaching a random number to the array for cheap comparison, but honestly that kind of thing would be better off during the change, and it's a premature optimization

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[20:28:13] <jaawerth> the kind of thing you'd want to do after your things are fully implemented

[20:28:48] <jaawerth> best approach would be to just iterate through the array and do a deep copy and comparison in one swoop

[20:28:55] <ses1984> what about instead of using angular.equals and angular.copy within the filter, you define a special AngularList type and use that, then you don't see all that ugly code in the filter

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[20:29:20] <jaawerth> data logic shouldn't be interfered with by display logic

[20:29:28] <jaawerth> you could move your logic into a factory though

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[20:33:43] <jaawerth> ugh, I hate to say it but this may be one case where $scope.$watch is appropriate

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[20:33:56] <aendrew> Okay, question — if I resolve a promise in a .run() block, is there any way to block controller loading until that date is attached to $rootScope? Seems not… http://plnkr.co/edit/F2I3lRq0XUPLmtMRaM8W

[20:34:05] <aendrew> *data

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[20:34:26] <ses1984> why do you hate to say it

[20:34:33] <jaawerth> because that's terrible practice

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[20:35:15] <ses1984> can you elaborate

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[20:35:34] <ses1984> i'm sorry if i'm bugging you, i'm very new to angular and this discussion is teaching me so much

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[20:36:07] <jaawerth> you'd be delaying your whole app if that's the case, plus it's not great practice to attach data to $rootScope like that anyway. Sometimes it's handy to attach services to $rootScope if you'd otherwise need to inject it everywhere, but that's about it

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[20:36:28] <jaawerth> $rootScope is better than just using global variables, but it comes a bit close for ocmfort

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[20:36:45] <ses1984> i see

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[20:37:24] <jaawerth> aendrew: if you use ngRoute or ui-router, you could use a resolve with your root path/state and attach it there

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[20:38:06] <bh123> greetings, all. Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for useful resources on routes/ngView and accessibility. I'm having some difficulties - nothing contained in a template for a route is accessible via keyboard at all. I've tried giving the container aria-live attribute and a tabindex

[20:38:06] <jaawerth> that would be one workaround - and the best way to do it without bad practice. I'd say that, or if you really need that data to be grabbed before your app fully bootstraps, you can grab the data and then manually bootstrap

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[20:38:21] <aendrew> jaawerth: Was ‘fraid of that, have been trying not to use any routing because it doesn’t need any. Oh well, I might use UI-router so I can have child partial templates. Thanks!

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[20:38:36] <jaawerth> aendrew: or the aforementioned manual bootstrap approach ;-)

[20:40:00] <jaawerth> aendrew: OR you could just defer it - attach an empty object to rootScope and populate it when the promise resolves. That way you aren't making it synchronous and delaying the bootstrapping process

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[20:41:16] <aendrew> jaawerth: The last one is what I was doing before, but it meant most of my controller was inside a .then() callback. Will try manual bootstrap; is this SO Answer a good example of that? http://stackoverflow.com/a/20448708/467760

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[20:43:03] <jaawerth> your controller should be really short anyway ;-)

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[20:43:32] <jaawerth> (apps are much cleaner and easier to debug when the bulk of your logic is in factories and services)

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[20:44:27] <jaawerth> aendrew: yeah, that's solid. just make sure you remove ng-app from your index.html or it scream bloody murder at you

[20:45:24] <ses1984> jaawerth: when you say the bulk of your logic should be in factories and services, specifically about factories,

[20:45:33] <aendrew> jaawerth: Lulz, good to know. Yeah, I’m gradually abstracting my really obese controller into a bunch of services, just having a bit of difficulty wrapping my head around it all. Thanks, that was really helpful!

[20:45:36] <ses1984> do you mean service factories or factories distinct from services

[20:45:47] <jaawerth> lol

[20:45:57] <jaawerth> factories and services are so close to being the same thing

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[20:46:22] <ses1984> regarding moving ng-app from index.html, that's how the tutorial app is organized...what's the better approach?

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[20:46:39] <jaawerth> but are useful for abstracting the actual logic in your app so controllers are concerned with pulling the strings on service/factory functions and gluing that data to the view (with minor transformation), and directives handle the DOM

[20:46:54] <jaawerth> ses1984: when you manually bootstrap, you don't use ng-app at all

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[20:47:08] <jaawerth> it's a special case (see that SO from aendrew )

[20:47:40] <ses1984> that's a meaty post

[20:48:06] <ses1984> almost done with lunch and i'm stil trying to think about this filter thing, trying to find a better way

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[20:48:54] <ngbot> [angular.js] juliemr pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/2oz_9Q

[20:48:55] <ngbot> angular.js/master 63db097 Julie Ralph: style(testability): throw a more informative error when getting testability...

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[20:49:39] <jaawerth> ses1984: I've filed it as an interesting problem for another time ;-)

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[20:50:03] <jaawerth> actually, I think I know

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[20:52:02] <jaawerth> trying to fully memoize the filter is the mistake and would require some kinda hashkey thing- they're supposed to be idempotent anyway, so the key is to just let it run but control how results are returned without over-optimizing

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[20:52:47] <jaawerth> for a filter like this, the filter itself isn't gonna be any more expensive than a comparison anyway (and possibly cheaper)

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[20:54:23] <AngularUI> [ng-grid] c0bra tagged v3.0.0-RC.18 at 730605b: http://git.io/l4aEBA

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[20:54:50] <aendrew> jaawerth: Lulz, just implemented ui-router in like ten lines to do exactly what I was wanting. WHY DID I NOT DO THAT EARLIER?!!?!

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[20:57:05] <jaawerth> ses1984: in other words, the filter runs every time http://plnkr.co/edit/mtH4GOIzCmlifoqatOKN?p=preview

[20:57:15] <jaawerth> (which is what it does anyway)

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[20:57:29] <jaawerth> but now you're not wasting time doing a copy, deep compare, AND running the filtier

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[20:59:40] <ses1984> still doing a deep compare which is probably the slowest part right?

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[20:59:51] <ses1984> and running the filter

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[21:04:34] <HawaiiCode> Has anyone else ever received and exception from jQuery when changing the sorting predicate on an ng-repeat?

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[21:05:18] <nickeddy> wat

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[21:06:08] <HawaiiCode> So I have a table with rows that are created with ng-repeat: ng-repeat="contest in AllContests | orderBy:sort:ReverseSort"

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[21:06:22] <ses1984> jaawerth: taking a step back from this, going back a couple hours... you say trying to fully memoize the filter is a mistake...but is it really? this filter is deterministic so if it's fully memoized wouldn't it avoid running multiple times?

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[21:06:35] <HawaiiCode> sort and ReverseSort are defined on the controller and the sorting is working.

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[21:06:56] <ses1984> isn't it better to check equality first, before running, if you have to check equality anyway when you run it?

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[21:07:24] <HawaiiCode> However every time I change the predicate and the sorting fires off, I get an exception from jQuery.

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[21:07:49] <HawaiiCode> The line in question is 1430 (in version 2.1.1)

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[21:08:00] <jaawerth> ses1984: it's an optimization so best done some time after implementation and use

[21:08:18] <ses1984> http://www.terrencewatson.com/2014/06/28/memoize/

[21:08:30] <nickeddy> HawaiiCode: ng-repeat has nothing to do with jquery so...

[21:08:32] <HawaiiCode> It is getting attributes from HTML elements, and in this case it is trying to process the end ng-repeat line (which is not a valid html element.

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[21:08:48] <ses1984> ...is it always better to wait to do any optimization

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[21:08:57] <jaawerth> ses1984: haha damnit now I'm thinking about it more though

[21:09:05] <jaawerth> well, it depends on how big the perf hit is

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[21:09:12] <jaawerth> and how much you'd be complicating your code

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[21:09:22] <jaawerth> memoizing is also touchy because it leads to more mem use

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[21:09:58] <ses1984> what about a "temporary" memoization

[21:10:09] <aendrew> Hey, another question — I have a provider that grabs a config file, which feeds it to my controller via .then(). How would I test that it’s pulling data into the scope correctly?

[21:10:16] <ses1984> for example, if you know a filter is deterministic, then why is it recalculated every time digest happens

[21:10:40] <HawaiiCode> @nickeddy This exception is occuring only when I do a sort, and I am not calling the jquery method explicitly.  Was just wondering if anyone else had encountered it.  While the sorting is working, the exception seems to be breaking other things.

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[21:12:38] <jaawerth> aendrew: I thought you were using resolve?

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[21:13:06] <aendrew> I am, but I have a secondary controller that adds a bunch of stylesheets to the head that I’m still using then() with. I’m also curious for future reference.

[21:13:11] <aendrew> jaawerth: ^^

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[21:14:01] <jaawerth> ses1984: it very much depends on the data you're working with, but because (for example here), the cost of checking AND copying the incoming data is going to be about equal to just running the filter anyway

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[21:14:33] <jaawerth> ses1984: it becomes much, much simpler if you know more about about the data and how deeply you need to check it

[21:14:39] <ses1984> but running the filter includes running the check...so why not just check instead of running and checking

[21:14:59] <jaawerth> because it isn't run and check, it's run, copy, and check

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[21:15:37] <ses1984> so doesn't that make running even worse

[21:15:40] <jaawerth> so if they're all roughly equal (copy will likely be a bit more expensive), you're doing 3x when it runs rather than 2x

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[21:18:08] <jaawerth> doing copy, compare, and run when they aren't equal would mean you're gaining some perf when it's stable and losing it when it changes. Plus I think the filter is actually cheaper than the copy or compare, since you're just moving top-level references around rather than having to deep dive into whatever objects may be in there

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[21:18:27] <ses1984> i had not thought of that last part

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[21:18:31] <jaawerth> if the object in shallow, it's a minor difference. if it's deep, you're actually going to kill your app's performance on a deep copy

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[21:18:49] <ses1984> waaait a sec

[21:19:06] <jaawerth> er, deep compare AND copy, that is

[21:19:18] <jaawerth> you'd hurt perf twice as fast for a deep object

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[21:20:02] <jaawerth> the only other solution is to know a unique ID to track the top-level items by, or have some kind of mutating hash to assign when the object changes so you can do a quick-compare

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[21:20:19] <ses1984> that is a premature optimzation for sure

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[21:20:25] <ses1984> but

[21:20:31] <jaawerth> but again, I would only do that if I was working with giant data and it was killing performance

[21:20:32] <ses1984> might be something cool to include in angular

[21:20:44] <jaawerth> angular actually kinda does that with ng-repeat

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[21:20:55] <jaawerth> with $$hashKey and the "filter" filter

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[21:21:15] <jaawerth> or rather, just with ng-repeat.

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[21:22:03] <jaawerth> still, it's not perfect - which is why usingi "track by" is a perf boost sometimes even when you know the elements aren't gonna be equal, since it lets angular do a comparison by some property rather than computing hashkeys

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[21:22:40] <jaawerth> you MIGHT be able to tap into that, but that's a level of research I don't want to do right now (already spent too much time on this ;-) )

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[21:23:26] <nickeddy> anyone have a good directive for bootstrap navbars in angular? so tired of this fucking collapse not working

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[21:29:01] <lebster> i have a project in my database that has a status of just being a proposed project. in my angular app i let the person view it and modify it and set its status to approved. should i be setting the status to approved in my angular and make a generic update project endpoint? or should i make an end point named approveProject that will update the project and

[21:29:01] <lebster> set the status inside the endpoint instead of in my angular app

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[21:30:36] <lebster> i guess the question is should business logic be in angular or my end point

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[21:31:28] <lebster> so many crud examples, but shouldnt i validate things on my end point

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[21:35:38] <bradmaxs> Is there an angular way to find a record without using a loop as I am doing in my refreshPrinters and refreshOrders functions.  http://plnkr.co/edit/PWfiMiwVLwUoucSuXCht?p=info  Someone provided an underscore method but I couldn't get it to work with my data.

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[21:44:03] <ses1984> jaawerth -- you mentioned something about using $scope.$watch and that attaching to the root scope is bad... in this case is there a more specific scope we could attach to rather than the root?

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[21:45:41] <jaydubya> I am creating a JSON file ... I read where everything has to be double-quoted ... does this mean numbers too? would it be "years_farming": "36" or "years_farming": 36?

[21:45:56] <jnott> if you want it to be a number you would not use quotes

[21:46:07] <jnott> strings just have to be double quoted

[21:46:12] <ses1984> usually you donb't create json objects directly though

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[21:46:22] <ses1984> or files

[21:46:22] <jnott> it just means you can't do {years_farming: 36}

[21:46:29] <jnott> has to be {"years_farming": 36}

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[21:46:38] <jaydubya> thanks, that's what I thought but it wasn't what I read ... gotcha

[21:46:51] <ses1984> you would probably have an actual javascript object that contained "years_farming":36 and use some kind of library to write it to a file

[21:47:18] <jaydubya> ses1984: I am just creating test data to style a form before I migrate and seed a database table and get the same data through a service

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[21:47:46] <jaawerth> it's just that, in general if you want a singleton (be it a full-fledged object with properties and member functions and prototypes and things) or a simple object, or just some data, using angular's dependency injection is the way to go

[21:47:55] <jaawerth> a factory, service, value, constant, etc

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[21:48:00] <jaydubya> trying to get a prototype to the approval board so I am focusing on the CSS right now

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[21:48:18] <ses1984> if the test data is simple, go ahead and write it by hand, but it might be better to get into some js console, make a js object that is exactly the test data you want, then stringify it

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[21:51:10] <deyna> evening, any ideas on how to move the button to the bottom? http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview

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[21:55:00] <ioudas> Is anyone familar with bindonce here, pre angular 1.3?

[21:55:18] <ioudas> How do i use bindonce on an expression like {{group['fr-index-product-no']}}<

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[21:55:43] <MotherMGA1> how can I use the $location service to remove the #path from my url to change the route to ''? $location.path('') ends up as the '/' route

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[21:56:57] <MotherMGA1> I'd like to have a button that removes the path completely

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[21:59:19] <deyna> can anyone see why im getting a group controller require by directive not found error? http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview

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[22:00:29] <aphadke> hello. does anyone have an example of masonry + infinitescroll where images are loaded via REST API (lazy loading)?

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[22:10:34] <deyna> anyone? http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview

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[22:12:05] <AciD`> anybody here with experience on integrating laravel (php) with an existing angular app? Any do and don't ?

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[22:14:37] <tristanp> is there an angular or just native js way to emit a friendly ding for debugging purposes?

[22:14:59] <tristanp> that takes five min or less to set up

[22:15:00] <deyna> alert()

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[22:15:30] <tristanp> i have been using those but the nature of the app means it would be better to have a ding than have to click continue each time it happens

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[22:16:28] <deyna> could you just set a scope variable on $rootScope and have a div someone that appears and then fades after a timeout?

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[22:16:40] <deyna> maybe check out ngnotifications

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[22:16:48] <deyna> easy to setup

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[22:20:34] <ngbot> [angular.js] caitp pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/7fd2dc11ca502105587e4bccd3267aa6cd08a648

[22:20:34] <ngbot> angular.js/master 7fd2dc1 Caitlin Potter: chore(bower/unpublish.sh): add angular-messages and angular-aria...

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[22:21:02] <cilkay> Hello. I'm trying to include angular-ui in my project. I've installed it via bower and the location is shared/components/angular-ui/build/angular-ui.js If I source that in my HTML, grunt serve complains that it can't injet angular-ui and removes it from my HTML. I suspect it's because angular-ui.js is in a sub-directory that grunt complains about it. How do I address that?

[22:21:20] <deyna> are you using wiredep?

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[22:21:43] <cilkay> Given that I don't know what wiredep is, no. :)

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[22:22:23] * cilkay reading wiredep docs

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[22:23:17] <deyna> wiredep is a grunt task that takes your bower file and injects all the dependencies into your index.html

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[22:23:47] <cilkay> This is one of the AngularJS app template so I'm guessing it uses wiredep since I see that <!-- bower:js --> nomenclature in index.html.

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[22:24:19] <deyna> ye, sounds like it does

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[22:24:22] <cilkay> It gets configured in Gruntfile, apparently. I'll look.

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[22:24:46] <cilkay> No reference to wiredep in Grunfile.

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[22:27:01] <deyna> typically its listed as a task to the build task

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[22:27:49] <deyna> anyone have any idea how to access a parent directives controller after you've transcluded some content?

[22:28:01] <deyna> pretty sure its an ng-repeat stopping me from getting hold of it

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[22:33:46] <cilkay> It is using wiredep. I grepped through node_modules and saw plenty of references to it in generator-angular

[22:34:07] <deyna> ye generato angular uses wiredep

[22:34:18] <deyna> is your bower.json up to date?

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[22:34:24] <deyna> i.e. includes angular-ui

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[22:34:57] <cilkay> Yes, I installed it like so: bower install angular-ui --save and I see it in bower.json

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[22:36:48] <deyna> anytihg in your network tab about it not serving up the files?

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[22:36:56] <deyna> and isit included in your app config?

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[22:37:57] <cilkay> It's in my app config and I don't see anything in the network tab. This nodeenv is quite crufty. I'll create a clean one and try again.

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[22:38:46] <cilkay> I had been doing things the hard way by manually adding stuff to the app. Reading the docs on generator-angular, I see that I can save quite a bit of hassle and time initially.

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[22:39:27] <nickeddy> cilkay: i have a build system take care of all my script imports/etc

[22:39:32] <nickeddy> using gulp

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[22:39:55] <nickeddy> cilkay: https://gist.github.com/nickeddy/18eac2d7aff4ba398933

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[22:40:01] <cilkay> I'm spending so much time learning about all this tooling that I'm not writing any code. :)

[22:40:15] <nickeddy> yeah a big part i'

[22:40:18] <deyna> use tooling whne you need it :)

[22:40:21] <nickeddy> i've realized is the setup

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[22:40:39] <deyna> anyone good with transclusion? http://plnkr.co/edit/CADpb3YbhVrOl8vOSOpj?p=preview

[22:40:39] <cilkay> Lot less tooling with Django, which is what I'm familiar with.

[22:40:40] <nickeddy> but once you get things how you want it goes much more smoothly

[22:40:49] <nickeddy> cilkay: :| i come from django as well

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[22:41:02] <cilkay> Are you using Django in the backend?

[22:41:07] * snurfery 's ears perk up

[22:41:10] <snurfery> who said django?

[22:41:16] <snurfery> =)

[22:41:17] <nickeddy> for some old stuff, we're ditching it for sailsjs

[22:41:39] <nickeddy> aka i get the beautiful chore of rewriting our entire backend

[22:41:40] <nickeddy> yay

[22:41:56] <snurfery> wow

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[22:42:44] <snurfery> I'm considering sailsjs for some functionality, dunno how well it does with using existing database tables

[22:42:49] <nickeddy> well, after having adopted angular django just became django-rest-framework

[22:42:54] <cilkay> Where is the win if you already have Django working?

[22:42:56] * snurfery nods

[22:43:17] <nickeddy> snurfery: good news, we're working on some open source tools to turn any arbitrary sql (say, a psql dump from django) in to sails models

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[22:43:23] <nickeddy> snurfery: i'll let you know when that's out

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[22:43:28] <snurfery> ah nice

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[22:43:52] <snurfery> as it is, does sails let you do stuff like specify table names, field names, etc for each model?

[22:43:57] <nickeddy> yep

[22:43:57] <moogey> looks like I'll have to check out Sailsjs more

[22:44:04] <snurfery> cool

[22:44:28] <snurfery> lord knows my stack doesn't need more stuff in it

[22:44:40] <cilkay> You might be interested in Sandman: http://www.jeffknupp.com/blog/2013/07/23/sandman-a-boilerplatefree-python-rest-api-for-existing-databases/

[22:44:47] <moogey> does sailsjs replace django in this case?

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[22:45:16] <nickeddy> snurfery: you can use columnName: '' as an attribute property

[22:45:17] <moogey> cikay: Haven't looked yet, but if it's anything like flask with flask-classy I think I'm gonna like it

[22:45:30] <snurfery> cool

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[22:45:38] <nickeddy> snurfery: as well as specify connections for entire models/tables

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[22:46:47] <nickeddy> i think we're going to use both a postgres db and mongodb for a document store

[22:47:15] <snurfery> omg I did exactly that

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[22:47:21] <snurfery> it cost me months

[22:47:23] <cilkay> Are you aware that PostgreSQL now has JSON datatypes?

[22:47:23] <chachan> docs are much better today =)

[22:47:38] <ses1984> hey here's a long shot, wondering if anyone can help me find this

[22:47:48] <snurfery> because I tried to tie them together, i.e. mongo document referencing django IDs and vice versa

[22:47:57] <snurfery> but there was no data integrity so shit got weird

[22:48:04] <nickeddy> cilkay: psql json !== mongodb document store

[22:48:16] <nickeddy> snurfery: yeah waterline can do all that automatically

[22:48:29] <snurfery> (it's getting pretty close)

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[22:48:32] <snurfery> whaddya mean

[22:48:35] <snurfery> psql + mongo?

[22:48:36] <ses1984> i was reading someone's blog which i think was dedicated to testing. the guy had some eastern european sounding name like czech or something like that. this certain blog post was about the importance of seams to make things easier to test

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[22:49:25] <nickeddy> snurfery: well you can use multiple dbs in waterline and aggregate data that way

[22:49:28] <Foxandxss> seams?

[22:49:33] <nickeddy> snurfery: though i need to test it out :)

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[22:50:24] <snurfery> interesting

[22:50:44] <ses1984> seams meaning logical divisions in the code in which you can insert mocks

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[22:51:16] <Foxandxss> never heard that concept

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[22:52:47] <ses1984> this is the guy

[22:52:50] <ses1984> http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2008/08/by-miko-hevery-so-you-decided-to.html

[22:53:01] <Foxandxss> he is the angular creator

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[22:53:18] <ses1984> well thats probably how i found him

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[22:53:28] <ses1984> looking up angular stuff

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[22:57:25] <nickeddy> robdubya: is angularSails still usable?

[22:57:38] <robdubya> yepp

[22:57:42] <nickeddy> robdubya: <3

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[23:05:18] <nickeddy> robdubya: and does $sailsSocket give promises back?

[23:05:25] <robdubya> yes

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[23:05:35] <robdubya> its == to the $http API

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[23:06:01] <cilkay> nickeddy: I've never been a fan of specifying assets like CSS and JS files anywhere but in the HTML. There are various projects like this in Django, too. Django pipeline does it similar to how you're doing it, in a config file. I prefer the django-compressor approach where anything between the {% compress %}{% endcompress %} tags will be built/minified/combined.

[23:06:20] <dman777_alter> Foxandxss: question...please :) ....if I have a input box that takes a 5 digit number. Do I write a protractor test for  it('should be invalid if not 5 digit number') for the port field, or am I re-testing angular.js code that angular.js has already tested?

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[23:07:10] <Foxandxss> is that working with a custom validation or something?

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[23:07:48] <dman777_alter> Foxandxss:  ng-pattern="/^\d{1,5}$/"

[23:07:55] <nickeddy> cilkay: except i can easily specify to minify or not - it doesn't actually uglify/minify anything unless on production

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[23:08:03] <Foxandxss> I would test it dman777_alter

[23:08:07] <dman777_alter> Foxandxss: ok, thanks!

[23:08:27] <cilkay> nickeddy: That's driven by settings.DEBUG for django-compressor.

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[23:08:47] <cilkay> In dev, it's not minified.

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[23:09:10] <Foxandxss> dman777_alter: take in mind that even when ng-pattern is from angular, the regexp is yours, you need to test that it is working as you expected

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[23:12:50] <nickeddy> cilkay: yeh i'm trying to get away from virtualenv crap

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[23:13:17] <dman777_alter> Foxandxss: +1

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[23:13:43] <cilkay> Huh? Nothing I've said has anything to do with virtualenv, not to mention, what's wrong with virtualenv? I use nodeenv within virtualenv. I like that isolation.

[23:14:26] <nickeddy> cilkay: and i don't have to specify anything but dependencies before angular.js. can easily make a post-angular (i.e. module dependency) folder and just use another glob

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[23:25:18] <lebster> am i only supposed to create a CRUD web api for angular? or should i just pass stuff the web api for the action. business logic in angular or in my web api?

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[23:25:48] <qwerty> hi

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[23:26:22] <jaawerth> lebster: little of column A, little of column B really. anything secure should be done on the API, of course

[23:26:30] <Guest25108> ¿why on this code http://pastebin.com/pjG1ypW0 on the view the $scope is empty as baratang says please?

[23:26:35] <jaawerth> insofar as authentication and the like goes, I mean

[23:26:52] <jaawerth> or any actions that your app needs to do but the user shouldn't be able to do

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[23:28:43] <lebster> some actions would use part of a model object, other actions would use the whole model part. do i expose the whole thing and let my angular code figure it all  out

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[23:29:46] <jaawerth> depends, really. I'd start by grabbing the whole model and optimize later if you want to trim it down

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[23:30:48] <jaawerth> Guest25108: batterang hasn't been updated in well over a year. are there any other indications of issues?

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[23:32:10] <jaawerth> batarang*

[23:32:18] <Guest25108> jaawerth:the other indication is that {{ data.texto }} give me {{ data.texto }} instead of the text

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[23:32:33] <jaawerth> hmm

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[23:33:41] <jaawerth> Guest25108: errors in console.log?

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[23:33:54] <jaawerth> or rather, in the console, period ;-)

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[23:34:31] <Guest25108> jaawerth:no errros on the console

[23:34:44] <lebster> hmm so you would start off using object/update and then optimize it later to be like object/approve?

[23:34:57] <jaawerth> that is VERY strange, because if you're getting {{ }} in your template, that doesn't just mean your scopes are empty, it means it's not compiling at all

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[23:35:14] <lebster> or only switch to object/approve if you needed to perform other actions not related to the object

[23:35:18] <jaawerth> which usually happens due to an error stopping angular

[23:35:39] <Guest25108> jaawerth:how can I print the content of $scope on the console?

[23:35:47] <jaawerth> lebster: probably start with object/update since it's easier and approve is a middleman

[23:36:08] <Guest25108> http://localhost/angularTareas/js/angular.min.js.map 404 (Not Found) error I see on the console

[23:36:08] <lebster> whats middleman mean

[23:36:18] <jaawerth> Guest25108: you'd need to put a breakpoint in your code so execution stops somewhere that has access to $scope (like a controller)

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[23:36:27] <jaawerth> oh, well yeah that's your issue

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[23:36:37] <jaawerth> your app is failing to download the code for angular itself

[23:36:43] <jaawerth> so nothing is executing ;-)

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[23:37:09] <jaawerth> or rather, on your localhost. is your local server running?

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[23:37:48] <TheAceOfHearts> Marketo's javascript bullshit thing is so bad…

[23:38:37] <jaawerth> lebster: well, functionality-wise, I'd write the methods for update since they'd likely be called by approve methods

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[23:38:44] <jaawerth> unless you mean it differently

[23:38:48] <Etherael> I have an unrelated UX question, why the hell do people disable paste of things like password elements on forms using js libs? that seems mind smashingly stupid.

[23:39:27] <jaawerth> in a silly attempt to prevent brute forcing? I dunno, I don't like it either - I use keepass

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[23:39:35] <lebster> approve methods in your angular?

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[23:39:39] <Etherael> exactly why I think it's mindsmashingly stupid.

[23:39:41] <lebster> or web api middle man

[23:39:47] <jaawerth> I mean on the server

[23:39:49] <Etherael> I also use keepass.

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[23:41:42] <jaawerth> Etherael: hmm you could probably write a greasemonkey script to override that

[23:41:59] <Guest25108> jaawerth:I fix the problem and now I dont see any li

[23:42:00] <jaawerth> or.. whatever the Chrome equivalent is. I haven't done any of that since I switched to Chrome which was.. I can't even remember

[23:42:05] <snurfery> ugh I hate that

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[23:42:09] <snurfery> paypal does that I think

[23:42:14] <snurfery> during registration

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[23:42:56] <jaawerth> Guest25108: well.. you're making progress! I can help debug further if you set everything up in a plnkr and see if it executes there, but it's tough to debug your whole app in a static pastebin

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[23:43:52] <Guest25108> jaawerth:here you have the pastebin http://pastebin.com/pjG1ypW0 ¿can you take a look please?

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[23:45:03] <Etherael> snurfery, Yeah paypal and australia post, I'm just trying to grasp what possible reason they could have to do it and I'm coming up blank.

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[23:45:56] <stormbytes> how would you access an 'owner' object from within its property object? eg. owner { name: "bob", foo: new Foo() }  how would owner.Foo access owner.name?

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[23:48:36] <jaawerth> Guest25108: I already did - and like I said, it's kinda tough to debug static code compared to a plnkr that will actually execute. The only thing I can think of - it LOOKS like you've got your home route configured to to use index.html as the templateUrl, which is also your main page with your <ng-view>

[23:48:40] <jaawerth> that isn't gonna work

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[23:51:37] <Guest25108> jaawerth: http://embed.plnkr.co/sDQ6Rg4jgyQeDrkXu1Ut/

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[23:53:14] <jaawerth> you don't have any of the libraries set up on there.. *sigh* alright, guess I'll do it for you

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[23:58:16] <Guest25108> jaawerth:which libraries are nor seted?

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[23:59:23] <mclenithan> do yall use 'resolve' in $routeProvider to lock down URLs from non-auth'd users? by using a authService or something?

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[23:59:47] <mclenithan> any good resources for best practices on this issue? ^^

[23:59:51] <jaawerth> Guest25108: angular, foundation - all of 'em. The thing about plnkr is you can use the "libraries" tab (or a valid script tag pointing to a CDN) to grab the libraries so the code youo put in it will executue
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