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[00:01:58] <geoid> hullo, still here
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[00:02:17] <snurfery> luis_: "web application development with angularjs " is good
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[00:02:33] <snurfery> it's a few minor versions behind but the concepts are still good
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[00:03:50] <luis_> thanks I have been working with it for a few months now but dont know a whole ton
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[00:04:47] <snurfery> luis_: I read it cover to cover before writing any real code
[00:04:58] <snurfery> but the biggest chunk of learning came from building something real
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[00:05:08] <snurfery> i.e. not an example from the book or a blog
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[00:05:23] <snurfery> make an app that does xyz with a rest api
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[00:05:35] <luis_> well I am using it for a product :)
[00:05:42] <snurfery> there ya go
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[00:05:44] <luis_> bit too late lol
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[00:06:14] <snurfery> nah that's perfect, same here... you learn based on what you need, not just reading the manual for no reason
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[00:06:23] <luis_> yup
[00:06:37] <luis_> directives get me all the time
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[00:07:31] <snurfery> There is a decent packt book just on directives
[00:07:45] <JonathanNeal> robdubya: would something like this work in a Rails asset pipeline? It seems like it wouldn’t.
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[00:08:14] <snurfery> I'm still not 100% comfy with directives (only built 3-4 so far) but it helped me understand wtf is going on at least
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[00:08:40] <luis_> 2 so far :D
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[00:10:09] <marcospgp> Where am I supposed to put the code present here under "quickstart" in an angular context?
[00:10:13] <marcospgp> https://developers.facebook.com/docs/facebook-login/login-flow-for-web/v2.0
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[00:11:17] <snurfery> marcospgp: that's a big question, maybe you should look for existing angular facebook solutions
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[00:11:37] <snurfery> you're certainly not the first one to need FB auth, so someone's prolly already figured it out
[00:11:47] <luis_> ^^^^
[00:11:48] <snurfery> that's the only way I get shit done most of the time ;)
[00:11:57] <luis_> lol
[00:12:01] <marcospgp> snurfery: okay ty ^^
[00:12:17] * snurfery owes the greater part of his career to google/SO/books/view source
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[00:12:56] <luis_> great to know Im not the only one
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[00:13:25] <snurfery> just as long as our clients don't know mwahaha
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[00:13:35] <marcospgp> luis_, portuguese?
[00:13:40] <luis_> lol
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[00:13:41] <snurfery> like "you know I'm gonna google this shit right?" @ $75/hour
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[00:14:08] <luis_> lmao
[00:14:20] <garbagegod> Is there any way to transition to a new state in angular-ui-router without resetting the previous state's scope?
[00:14:30] <marcospgp> snurfery: I don't think using google means it's easy, I mean actors have scripts but not everyone wins an emmy
[00:14:48] <snurfery> marcospgp: trudat, for sure
[00:15:01] <snurfery> I'm just glad I don't have to go to a library to research shit
[00:15:02] <marcospgp> snurfery: :p
[00:15:10] <snurfery> imagine how crazy that'd be
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[00:15:35] <marcospgp> snurfery: Well if you had to then you probably wouldn't have computers to work with anyway
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[00:15:38] <luis_> they would have to have free broadband
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[00:15:58] <robdubya> JonathanNeal why not?
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[00:16:22] <robdubya> i'd treat them as different pipelines anyway
[00:16:33] <robdubya> grunt / gulp > *
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[00:21:03] <robdubya> anybody know of a good "embedded C for dummies" book?
[00:21:07] <robdubya> i feel like a noob all over again
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[00:24:38] <niall_obrien> Hi all
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[00:25:05] <Elezium> Hi Folks... little Q: I have a controller that call a service. If the service fails, would it be more approriate manage the error mesage (and display to the front-end) inside the service or let the controller handle that part?
[00:25:32] <niall_obrien> Elezium: Your service will return a promise to your controller
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[00:26:01] <Elezium> niall_obrien, k.. right now, the promise is handled in the controller.
[00:26:24] <niall_obrien> Seems okay to me
[00:26:30] <niall_obrien> I'm still learning though
[00:26:46] <Elezium> niall_obrien, and if my services is only 1-2 lines or code, does it worh it to have a service then?
[00:26:54] <niall_obrien> I think so
[00:27:01] <Elezium> niall_obrien, hoo I see still learning big time as well.
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[00:27:24] <niall_obrien> Like, right now I'm refactoring a lot into a service
[00:27:30] <snurfery> Elezium: the value of services is that they can be injected anywhere... write once, use everywhere
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[00:27:39] <snurfery> well one of the value-points at least
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[00:28:25] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/TzpO3Q
[00:28:25] <ngbot> angular.js/master 4d875fa Julie Ralph: chore(e2e): protractor version bump to 1.0
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[00:28:28] <niall_obrien> How can I refactor something like $scope.staff.push(staffList[i]); into a service? Accessing the $scope in a service is hardly a good idea.
[00:28:32] <robdubya> and with errors specificlaly, the idea would be to rejigger the "raw" error and return a more useful one to your controller
[00:28:35] <Elezium> snurfery, but can't a controller be used almost everywhere as well?
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[00:28:53] <niall_obrien> hey robdubya
[00:29:28] <snurfery> Elezium: yep but you'll typically need lots of controllers... if you copy and paste the same functionality into each one it becomes messy and unmaintainable
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[00:29:47] <snurfery> instead, you take the shared functionality, turn it into a service, then inject it wherever it's needed
[00:29:48] <Elezium> and I would return the error from the services to the controller using the $scope?
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[00:30:16] <Elezium> snurfery, I see.. Thanks ;)
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[00:31:22] <niall_obrien> Anyone?
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[00:31:52] <Elezium> niall_obrien, I was about to ask something around those lines.... Thanks for asking.
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[00:32:31] <niall_obrien> Hopefully someone can help us Elezium
[00:32:36] <snurfery> niall_obrien: the methods on your service can just accept arguments
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[00:33:11] <snurfery> one of which might be the array
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[00:33:45] <niall_obrien> snurfery: I'm trying to abstract all of that logic into the service
[00:33:46] <snurfery> oh maybe that's not applicable in your case
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[00:35:03] <niall_obrien> I'm guessing I populate the array in the service then return it to the controller, but I don't see how this is better than pushing one at a time straight onto the scope in the controller
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[00:35:20] <snurfery> $scope.dataObj = myService.dataObj; then 'myService' can mess with dataObj as much as it wants
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[00:35:46] <snurfery> $scope.dataObj will just be a reference to the actual object on myService
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[00:36:12] <niall_obrien> snurfery: So just push onto it in the service and it'll work the same?
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[00:36:39] <snurfery> dataObj has to be a real object, i.e. an array or {}
[00:36:51] <niall_obrien> Damn, I'm calling a method
[00:37:02] <snurfery> but yeah, once you link em up like that it can work
[00:37:07] <snurfery> there are caveats
[00:37:11] <niall_obrien> eg. $scope.staff = StaffList.all();
[00:37:23] <snurfery> that's not the same
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[00:37:27] <niall_obrien> I know
[00:37:35] <snurfery> oh ok =)
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[00:37:39] <niall_obrien> As I said, I'm currently just calling a method
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[00:38:09] <snurfery> definitely try it out and see if it suits your needs.. there are some weird things that happen when you start stashing data on a service though
[00:38:25] <snurfery> like you might go to a whole new page and all your stashed data is still there from the old page
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[00:38:35] <niall_obrien> Can I reference an object within a method from a controller?
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[00:39:20] <snurfery> you can pass the item in as an argument to the method, or you can have a reference to the object on $scope
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[00:39:32] <Drumerboi> Does anyone have experience using hte Batarang debugging tool within an iFrame? That is to say that my angular app resides inside an iFrame, but the Batarang does not detect this child view
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[00:40:33] <niall_obrien> snurfery: But it would need to be an object within the service's scope
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[00:41:33] <snurfery> in a way, yeah
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[00:42:02] <snurfery> angular.module('foo').service('myService', function() { this.myObj = {} });
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[00:42:20] <supermassiv> hmm is controllerAs a thing in ui-router?
[00:42:22] <snurfery> now you can reference myService.myObj from any controller it's injected into
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[00:43:22] <snurfery> Drumerboi: there's something similar to batarang called ng-inspector, maybe that'll work better for you?
[00:43:27] <snurfery> with iframes, that is
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[00:43:49] <snurfery> http://ng-inspector.org/
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[00:45:21] <Drumerboi> @snurfery: Thank you, I will look into that
[00:45:29] <snurfery> good luck
[00:45:31] <Elezium> Thanks niall_obrien , snurfery ... I'll try that as well. Hungry now.. Back later.
[00:45:32] <jamesbdev> Hi, I use laravel and it expects restful deletes to be in the format DELETE /resource/resourceId. How can I use ngResource with $resource and tell it that for my delete route it should be a certain url
[00:45:59] <henn1nk> jamesbdev: use $http
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[00:46:56] <jamesbdev> henn1nk: is using $http recommended for larger projects? I like the simplicity of using $resource
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[00:47:25] <henn1nk> jamesbdev: i think so. it was teached to me, cause ngResource isn't really flexible
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[00:48:11] <jamesbdev> henn1nk: Oh OK thanks, I am quite confident with laravel but just just starting with angularjs... could you please point me towards a good resource for learning how to use $http in place of $resource ?
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[00:48:37] <snurfery> jamesbdev: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16167463/angular-js-delete-resource-with-parameter
[00:48:45] <henn1nk> jamesbdev: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$http ? :)
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[00:49:32] <henn1nk> snurfery: so you can use ngresource for such projects? no need for $http?
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[00:50:41] <snurfery> that's what the StackOverflow answer is suggesting. $http will still be used in the background, just not by you ;)
[00:50:44] <supermassiv> hmmm i feel dumb what am i missing here... this doesnt work: <button ng-click="console.log('test')">Placeholder</button>
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[00:51:19] <snurfery> supermassiv: do you have any other working angular code on the page?
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[00:51:28] <jamesbdev> snurfery: thanks for the resource I will try it and and see how it goes. henn1nk: Thanks I already saw the angular docs and have been watching / reading tutorials, still a little hazy on how it all fits together
[00:51:28] <supermassiv> yeah
[00:51:37] <supermassiv> get to the page that's on via ui-router
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[00:51:49] <snurfery> nothing's crashing in the console?
[00:51:51] <supermassiv> no errors, nothing
[00:51:53] <snurfery> hmm
[00:51:53] <supermassiv> annoying :|
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[00:52:07] <snurfery> Is it on IE?
[00:52:09] <snurfery> =)
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[00:52:19] <henn1nk> use data-ng-click
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[00:52:46] <supermassiv> no luck... testing in firefox, tried chrome as well
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[00:53:53] <henn1nk> supermassiv: show code :>
[00:54:19] <supermassiv> that's it, i left that by itself in the partial
[00:54:31] <supermassiv> well - the ui-router part might help
[00:54:44] <supermassiv> it's just a basic .state
[00:54:58] <supermassiv> w/ url/template/controller
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[00:55:31] <henn1nk> supermassiv: missing data-ng-app?
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[00:56:01] <raibutera> if i'm concatenating multiple javascript files so I have, for example, the variable '_' declared outside of the coffeescript file i'm currently working on, how do I avoid coffeescript declaring a local variable '_' when compiling?
[00:56:20] <henn1nk> jamesbdev: do you like laravel?
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[00:56:37] <jamesbdev> henn1nk: best thing that's happened to my web dev career
[00:56:55] <snurfery> raibutera: have you encountered that problem, or are you just anticipating it?
[00:56:57] <henn1nk> jamesbdev: ever tried out other languages than php?
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[00:57:07] <raibutera> anticipating it snurfery
[00:57:12] <snurfery> don't do that
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[00:57:21] <snurfery> just move on and figure it out if it comes up
[00:57:22] <snurfery> ;)
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[00:57:57] <jamesbdev> henn1nk: only really php for web but fair amount of experience w/ other languages
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[00:58:10] <snurfery> most minifiers use single- or double-letter variables like var a,b,c,d,aa,ab
[00:58:14] <henn1nk> jamesbdev: i am experimenting with golang at the moment
[00:58:49] <kirfu> henn1nk: me too, but I only got up to setting up a web server :)
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[00:59:04] <henn1nk> kirfu: ?:D
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[00:59:08] <supermassiv> ok shouldnt this work? http://plnkr.co/edit/z2X3FfoX4ucSkQSM1SQV?p=preview
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[00:59:29] <henn1nk> kirfu: i like this package: https://godoc.org/github.com/ant0ine/go-json-rest/rest
[00:59:35] <raibutera> snurfery, how does it work then? does it just detect declare it if I assign it to something? If i never assign it, and thus only use a method, does it not declare it?
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[00:59:45] <raibutera> thats the only way I could think of it working
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[00:59:56] <kirfu> henn1nk: ohh thank you, I'll add that to my list of code to look at :)
[01:00:09] <henn1nk> kirfu: and mgo
[01:00:42] <henn1nk> kirfu: testing with ginkgo and gomega
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[01:01:04] <henn1nk> kirfu: i must say, the performance is bad ass :)
[01:01:23] <kirfu> Well that's good to hear. I currently work with PHP.
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[01:01:52] <snurfery> raibutera: if you'd like to know why I'm sure there are resources that explain it... my point is that you should just assume it'll work and get on with your code haha
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[01:02:31] <henn1nk> kirfu: http://jaxbot.me/articles/benchmarks_nodejs_vs_go_vs_php_3_14_2013
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[01:03:08] <raibutera> ok snurfery.. I just hate marching blindly haha
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[01:03:15] <henn1nk> kirfu: PHP completed the operations in 3.835 seconds. Node.js completed them in 71 milliseconds, whereas Go completed them in 38ms. Not bad, those latter two. <- hihi
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[01:04:30] <DrMabuse_> stupid scenario
[01:04:32] <jamesbdev> but at what cost to development time ? that's the most expensive
[01:04:42] <DrMabuse_> from this workbench
[01:04:47] <kirfu> henn1nk: Problem is, most of those preform that well because of the async. But I feel restful api's don't have a lot of tasks that can run async.
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[01:05:03] <snurfery> supermassiv: http://plnkr.co/edit/P1aaWyFQvlLiCkExskzl?p=preview
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[01:05:49] <supermassiv> console.log just doesn't work?
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[01:06:03] <supermassiv> oh, is it trying $scope.console.log?
[01:06:20] <snurfery> not sure what the issue was
[01:06:22] <DrMabuse_> $log
[01:06:29] <supermassiv> and being silent like an asshole instead of erroring like it should?
[01:06:31] <snurfery> I was expecting it to the work the way you had it
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[01:07:09] <snurfery> but whatever it takes to get the code working, heh
[01:07:12] <henn1nk> supermassiv: you missed the controller too
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[01:07:28] <snurfery> oh yeah
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[01:07:35] <supermassiv> controller isn't necessary for so0mething so simple is it? i have one in my code, but not the example
[01:07:38] <henn1nk> kirfu: and why do i experiment with go than? :P
[01:07:42] <henn1nk> you
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[01:08:18] <snurfery> supermassiv: dunno. I'm used to always having one so I dunno what breaks if you leave it out
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[01:08:27] <cythrawll> Sna4x8, I think the behavior is defined, it it traverses the dom... dom elements have order. I'm pretty sure that's where it gets it's order from.
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[01:09:15] <zelrik> mfw my boss shows me a huge display bug at 5pm in production...
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[01:09:40] <snurfery> boooooo
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[01:09:46] <mrogne> suck
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[01:10:00] <zelrik> good thing that page is not as important
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[01:10:19] <zelrik> but man having some big {{}} all over the page looks fugly
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[01:10:42] <sssilver> what's fugly?
[01:10:49] <snurfery> fuggin ugly
[01:11:07] <zelrik> it s ugly to a new level
[01:11:14] <zelrik> ugly++
[01:11:24] <snurfery> zelrik: that's a great reason to use ng-bind or ng-cloak when possible
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[01:11:46] <zelrik> snurfery, it s a great reason to do karma tests for controllers...
[01:11:55] <zelrik> we dont have controller coverage yet
[01:11:57] <snurfery> heh
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[01:12:15] <snurfery> I think I just unwittingly admitted that I don't either
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[01:12:28] <zelrik> mostly because I am the only one who has a clue about angularJS at work and I am pretty noob
[01:12:29] <snurfery> well played.
[01:12:59] <henn1nk> zelrik: caschinnnng :P
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[01:13:12] <zelrik> I cant believe my previous closed the ticket about test coverage
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[01:13:26] <zelrik> my previous boss
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[01:13:35] <zelrik> some people I swear...
[01:13:48] <henn1nk> zelrik: he wants to save money :D
[01:14:16] <zelrik> well he s gone now, so we are clearly saving money :D
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[01:16:08] <zelrik> that bug looked nasty, I have a feeling I ll spend the day debugging tomorrow
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[01:17:03] <henn1nk> zelrik: or two, or three :P
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[01:17:27] <zelrik> bugs generally dont resist that long with me
[01:17:35] <zelrik> or I find a workaround
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[01:18:32] <ftwordring> Hey guys, I'm kind of in a bind.
[01:18:36] <ftwordring> I don't know what to do.
[01:18:43] <zelrik> it s probably me misunderstanding angularJS more than anything else
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[01:19:25] <ftwordring> I have a website where one of the requirements (for security) is an auto log off of 15 minutes. We're now adding a plethora of features that include filling out entirely too-long-of forms. I'm worried that the auto-logoff is going to piss people off too much to use our new features.
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[01:19:37] <henn1nk> how do you all serve angularjs?
[01:19:48] <ftwordring> Anyone have any ideas how to address that?
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[01:20:05] <ftwordring> henn1nk: I just include it in my project, it's lightweight
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[01:20:23] <zelrik> cdn
[01:20:28] <henn1nk> ftwordring: which framework?
[01:20:49] <ftwordring> It's a proprietary framework
[01:21:01] <ftwordring> just standard file serving
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[01:21:33] <zelrik> ftwordring, the auto log off is a cookie expiration?
[01:21:47] <ftwordring> yes
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[01:21:55] <henn1nk> at the moment i am planing to do the restful api with go, and all other stuff via angularjs for frontend. but i don't know how to serve the angularjs files at the moment. (uglifing etc)
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[01:21:59] <zelrik> is it done on the backend
[01:22:05] <ftwordring> yes
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[01:22:26] <snurfery> ftwordring: so send background requests to keep the cookie fresh
[01:22:32] <zelrik> yeah
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[01:22:36] <ftwordring> that's genius
[01:22:37] <snurfery> on keypress, blur, etc
[01:22:52] <zelrik> could be as long as the person fills out the form
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[01:23:01] <bealtine> how do you start the timer and just reset the timer on "activity"
[01:23:05] <zelrik> check for form changes at regular intervals
[01:23:06] <snurfery> if they truly do walk away from the computer or leave the tab in the background, it won't send
[01:23:21] <zelrik> like every minute
[01:23:46] <zelrik> or every 2 minutes even
[01:23:55] <ftwordring> I might just set up a timer to a blank call to keep alive, I don't really care if the form has changed
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[01:24:10] <zelrik> can be a fairly long interval since the cookie is 15 minutes long
[01:24:13] <ftwordring> The features I'm working on really don't care about the auto-logoff at all, it's just a necessary evil for being on my framework
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[01:24:47] <zelrik> just put a 5 minutes interval on that particular page then
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[01:24:52] <zelrik> that refreshes the cookie
[01:25:03] <zelrik> with a cookie refresh on page load
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[01:25:53] <snurfery> I wouldn't totally subvert the timeout
[01:26:01] <snurfery> imagine if he's working on a banking website haha
[01:26:10] <snurfery> "I'll just turn this off..."
[01:26:11] <ftwordring> lol
[01:26:29] <snurfery> but seriously, my account number is 77483728#, wire me some shit
[01:26:32] <zelrik> well he said he doesnt care about the auto log off
[01:26:32] <snurfery> ;)
[01:26:37] <zelrik> on that page
[01:26:43] <ftwordring> ^
[01:26:47] <snurfery> it's not just on that page though, right?
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[01:27:11] <zelrik> I am listening to him, not my problem if he is wrong :D
[01:27:11] <ftwordring> it's ok for the timeout to be gone while these forms are open
[01:27:14] <snurfery> oh well, it's your requirements, yeah haha
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[01:30:16] <niall_obrien> I have a service method that's returning an object or an array - how can I best handle this?
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[01:31:08] <zelrik> return both
[01:31:18] <zelrik> in an object
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[01:31:50] <zelrik> it s good practice to always return the same thing
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[01:31:52] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/nU99lw
[01:31:53] <ngbot> angular.js/master d1df21e Shahar Talmi: refactor(Angular): add isPromiseLike helper function...
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[01:31:54] <niall_obrien> one is returning a promise
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[01:32:39] <niall_obrien> zelrik: Indeed. That's what I'm trying to do
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[01:34:15] <zelrik> I think there are ways to transform an object into a promise
[01:34:26] <zelrik> if that s what you have in mind
[01:34:34] <niall_obrien> Yeah, something like that
[01:34:39] <da_wunder> niall_obrien: some code examples would help
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[01:35:11] <niall_obrien> da_wunder: I'm still refactoring
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[01:37:55] <zelrik> niall_obrien, what you want I think is $q.when(foo)
[01:38:07] <zelrik> it transforms foo into a promise that contains foo
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[01:38:40] <zelrik> $q.when(foo).then(function(foo){ // stuff });
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[01:39:19] <zelrik> more reading there: http://blog.xebia.com/2014/02/23/promises-and-design-patterns-in-angularjs/
[01:39:30] <niall_obrien> thanks
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[01:44:07] <ftwordring> saving that blog post to read later, I've been having a hard time understanding promises in angular
[01:44:24] <ftwordring> i have way too long of a queue now for "read later" :(
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[01:46:58] <zelrik> who uses RoR as backend here
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[01:48:15] <dman777> http://dpaste.com/14BQP6M for the directive I wrote, how do I get $scope in there so I can do $scope.$on()?
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[01:52:28] <henn1nk> any idea how to handle "template-switching" in angularjs? for example to switch between different layouts/designs?
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[01:53:31] <blak> ngRoute
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[01:54:08] <dman777> henn1nk: you can call template has a function in the directive, or you can write the template in the directive. if I understand what you want to do correctly
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[01:59:47] <ftwordring> Is doing something like: $rootScope.$on('$destroy', function() { //bizarre required final app clean-up }).... valid?
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[02:01:01] <p3rsist> Hi guys. When I use a controllerAs:'vm' inside a directive and I have an isolate scope. Can I access the models on the isolate scope with vm.model? or I need to use $scope?
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[02:02:28] <raypulver> would ajax requests have less I/O overhead if they used BSON (binary json)? like how mongodb stores data
[02:02:34] <ftwordring> you can use vm.model
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[02:02:40] <ftwordring> it's easy to test in a plunkr
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[02:03:21] <ftwordring> I personally <3 the controllerAs syntax because it makes things so clear
[02:03:37] <p3rsist> Yeah ... a lot
[02:03:41] <ftwordring> for instance I have a controller with a lot of util functions and it's nice to see "newBill.create()" on an ng-click instead of just "create()"
[02:03:46] <p3rsist> var vm = this; :)
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[02:04:06] <p3rsist> its much clearer...
[02:04:23] <p3rsist> and $scope is not needed anymore... as a dependency
[02:04:50] <p3rsist> unless to watch for events emitted or broadcast
[02:05:05] <p3rsist> leaner
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[02:07:30] <ftwordring> I just figured out today that there was event broadcasting in angular
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[02:08:02] <ftwordring> a little scared to use events at this stage of my learning
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[02:11:42] <p3rsist> ftwordring, events should be used scarcely IMHO. Auth events like login, logout etc... seems logical to me.. also alerts (error or success)
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[02:12:21] <ftwordring> I really enjoy events driving the show but I agree. I think they'd be hard to maintain.
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[02:12:29] <ftwordring> Not to mention document.
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[02:17:24] <dman777> http://dpaste.com/3N9H6N8 I see that the broadcast is getting caught, but the element binding is not updateing from scope.countFrom = 111;
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[02:23:40] <markstewie> Hi everyone... can anyone help me with this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24899894/angular-is-mangling-token-from-dps-payments
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[02:25:09] <dman777> markstewie: it might be using https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$sce
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[02:25:34] <dman777> markstewie: there is one other service also that does sanitizeing also, but forgot what it's called.
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[02:25:52] <dman777> markstewie: not sure if this is it...but it's one of the things I would check out
[02:26:08] <dman777> $sce.RESOURCE_URL
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[02:26:41] <markstewie> dman777: hmm... thanks.. will take a look at that!
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[02:27:18] <dman777> markstewie: ya, if not...there is also another service that is used for sanitizing...forgot what it's called though.
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[02:29:26] <supermassiv> hmm cors sure is a pain in the dick isn't it
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[02:33:05] <p3rsist> Humm, just tried controllerAs='vm' in a directive and I get undefined errors in my template when I use vm.model.property instead of just model.property. Why?
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[02:34:47] <p3rsist> Maybe I should use the scope variable inside the link function?
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[02:40:54] <dman777> my service is looking a little hefty, I want to break it up but can I inject a service into another service?
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[02:45:01] <da_wunder> dman777: why not?
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[02:50:30] <dman777> da_wunder: wasn't sure, I googled and didn't find anything usefull about it.
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[02:51:04] <optikalmouse> dman777: wouldnt your other service just be a dependency?
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[02:52:04] <eip56> Hello everyong
[02:52:09] <eip56> everyone*
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[02:52:59] <dman777> but this mean I have to inject both services into the controllers that use just one of the service?
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[02:53:21] <optikalmouse> dman777: how big is your service in terms of methods?
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[02:54:30] <optikalmouse> dman777: you can do this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facade_pattern <-- create a facade service that gives access to the other sub-services so that your controllers don't change but your service can now be divided into smaller services
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[02:56:35] <eip56> So I have a table populated by php what is the best way to orderBy in angular. Its not coming though json yet
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[02:56:48] <dman777> optikalmouse: http://dpaste.com/20855WP#line-31 I was thinking about taking this one out for it's own service
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[02:59:00] <optikalmouse> dman777: is that the whole file? because that looks small enough to stay in one place to me
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[02:59:27] <dman777> optikalmouse: yep..that is the whole file. but in most examples it seems kinda heft
[02:59:30] <dman777> hefty
[03:00:16] <optikalmouse> paste an example? because it lgtm
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[03:01:52] <supermassiv> cors is a cunt... api will be on same domain when it's all ready but fucking aye nginx+flask on a dev server w/ local angular is a bitch
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[03:03:20] <ckboii89> hey guys, how do i pass a json object to a template url?
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[03:03:38] <ckboii89> specifically the template url is from a modal controller
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[03:03:47] <ckboii89> and the json object is from a api service call
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[03:04:14] <supermassiv> add it to the $scope from the controller, or the controller itself if you're accessing via controller as
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[03:04:46] <ckboii89> do i add to the scope of the main controller? or the controller whihc has the modal instance?
[03:04:58] <supermassiv> the one it's being used in
[03:05:18] <optikalmouse> supermassiv: watch the language plz, and why are you using nginx/flask for the local dev server?
[03:05:26] <dman777> supermassiv: https://github.com/dman777/express-multi-proxy-router
[03:05:53] <dman777> supermassiv: ^proxy the requests from the backend and you won't have the cors issue
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[03:06:24] <supermassiv> dman777: this might make things easier thx
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[03:07:02] <supermassiv> optikalmouse: because the api is nginx/flask already on another dev machine
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[03:08:07] <dman777> supermassiv: meant for development...that is if you are getting the same page restrictions. I need to include this in the readme...place process.env['NODE_TLS_REJECT_UNAUTHORIZED'] = '0'; in your express.js app.js file
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[03:08:18] <Siecje> On route change I need a few resources and the page load take a while, is it possible to trigger the cursor to show loading?
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[03:13:22] <tranzpupy> hello
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[03:14:12] <tranzpupy> newbie ro AngularJs here. having problem
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[03:14:55] <tranzpupy> trying to do tutorial
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[03:15:19] <tranzpupy> can anyone help?
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[03:15:40] <tranzpupy> please?
[03:15:49] <ftwordring> post your problem
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[03:15:58] <ftwordring> don't try to hook us :p
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[03:16:21] <tranzpupy> have some test lines in html file
[03:16:37] <tranzpupy> {{2+2}}
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[03:17:55] <tranzpupy> evaluats nicely to 4 until line that says <div ng-controller="TodoCtrl"
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[03:18:47] <tranzpupy> next lin evaluates to {{{2+2}}, so i can tell angular has stopped.
[03:18:49] <optikalmouse> tranzpupy: paste the code somewhere and link it plz.
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[03:19:06] <tranzpupy> okay+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[03:19:21] <ftwordring> http://plnkr.co/edit/IqpECo7uoQD4m5SA0nt9?p=preview
[03:19:25] <ftwordring> there's a good starting point for you
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[03:19:48] <tranzpupy> <!doctype html >
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[03:20:57] <tranzpupy> how can I paste the whol script?
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[03:22:06] <tranzpupy> oh, ic --open link and paste there?
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[03:22:36] <ftwordring> not to be mean but if you need help getting your help this might not be the best place to start..
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[03:25:05] <ManBearPixel> howdy everyone
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[03:25:54] <tranzpupy> not thinking yuo mean, <ftwordring> I pasted into the http://plnkr.co/edit/IqpECo7uoQD4m5SA0nt9?p=preview can you see my code? thanks for patience!
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[03:26:41] <ManBearPixel> howdy everyone!
[03:27:11] <tranzpupy> coddiappeared from that link.
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[03:27:40] <tranzpupy> sorry code disappeared from that link.
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[03:30:20] <alejobonilla> ¿alguien habla español?
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[03:30:42] <tranzpupy> anyone know why <div ng-controller= "TodoCtrl"> woul make angular stop ??
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[03:31:37] <helen__> @tranzpupy rly, listen to ftwordring, u dont even make it possible to help u
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[03:31:58] <ManBearPixel> Does anyone have any experience with AngularJS and Back End setup like Spring MVC or a Java Server?
[03:32:12] <alejobonilla> how to Use angularjs with mysql?
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[03:32:37] <ManBearPixel> I’m curious if I were to use a Java Backend server to fetch data and pre-populate content on an AngularJS-run website, if that would solve any SEO issues down the road
[03:32:39] <ManBearPixel> Pretty much
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[03:33:11] <helen__> mysql is a server side stuff ... i dont see how that even relates to angular xD?
[03:33:16] <ManBearPixel> I’m assuming it will, but if someone has done something similar with great results, then it will ease any fears I have. I would love to use AngularJS on this project, but I want to ensure my logic is correct with the process
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[03:33:25] <tranzpupy> @helen where shoul d i put code
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[03:33:39] <tranzpupy> please?
[03:33:40] <helen__> @tranzpupy plunkr
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[03:33:59] <ManBearPixel> @helen__ Well, if you have an AngularJS run website, and you are trying to ensure the SEO will work fine you need to have HTML content on the page
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[03:34:25] <ManBearPixel> Otherwise you need to setup some sort of “Snapshot” system, which would only add to the process
[03:34:25] <tranzpupy> @helen is thant the link at the top?
[03:34:26] <helen__> @ManBearPixel sorry that wasnt to u
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[03:34:37] <ManBearPixel> Oh, sorry helen__ :)
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[03:34:43] <helen__> but i can tell you that u do need a snapshot system if u want seo to work
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[03:35:21] <ManBearPixel> Well I was assuming a snapshot system would only be necessary if you’re running AngularJS by itself without anything in the back end to load content prior to the JS running
[03:35:42] <helen__> oh i mean if its already on the page its fine :P
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[03:35:55] <helen__> but if its in like angular bindings then u need snapshots
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[03:36:09] <ManBearPixel> I guess I’ll just set it all up and cross my fingers. I’ll let you all know of my findings then xD!
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[03:36:42] <helen__> think of it this way :P if it works with SEO before... then its still gonna work if it doesnt have anything to do with angular lol
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[03:37:13] <ManBearPixel> Yeah, this site will be hosting video content, so of course we want to make sure that the individual video pages get SEO’d properly but at the same time, I want to ensure the rest of the visitor’s duration is smooth. :p
[03:37:25] <helen__> @tranzpupy yes, the link above it, put ur code in it and press save then link it
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[03:38:15] <tranzpupy> @helen put my code in http://plnkr.co/edit/IqpECo7uoQD4m5SA0nt9?p=preview
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[03:39:08] <tranzpupy> @helen can you look at it there?
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[03:39:55] <Aerospark> hey guys, is angular-seed or ng-boilerplate a better starting point for building an angular app?
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[03:40:06] <Aerospark> or yeoman
[03:40:29] <helen___> @tranzpupy i dont think u saved it?
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[03:41:57] <tranzpupy> @helen wherr do zi save it? thanks.
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[03:43:52] <helen___> @tranzpupy the fork button at the top
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[03:44:46] <tranzpupy> @helen thank you I clicked fork button.
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[03:45:36] <tranzpupy> @helen can you read it now?
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[03:47:06] <helen___> @tranzpupy u have to link it
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[03:48:10] <tranzpupy> @helen thsnk you, how link it?
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[03:49:22] <helen___> copy past the link =/
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[03:50:40] <ftwordring> helen this m8 is troll
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[03:50:50] <ftwordring> or young :/
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[03:51:52] <tranzpupy> @helen i don't see =/
[03:52:20] <tranzpupy> @helen don't see how to link it.
[03:52:22] <da_wunder> tranzpupy: look at your browser location bar...
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[03:53:20] <tranzpupy> @helen where the http url is?
[03:53:25] <helen___> =s
[03:53:37] <tranzpupy> z/=s
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[03:54:05] <tranzpupy> not familiar with =s
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[03:56:13] <Siecje1> I'm trying to toggle some text on click but I'm always seeing the plus https://dpaste.de/OrQo
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[03:57:16] <helen___> @Siecje1 its cuz ng-if creates a child scope
[03:57:21] <helen___> if u change it to ng-show itll prob work
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[03:58:32] <tranzpupy> @helen ng-show for me? or someone else?
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[03:59:22] <helen___> some1 else >< ugh srsly if u dont know how to link to something, I really dont know what to tell you -.-
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[04:00:30] <tranzpupy> @helen, I can still see my code in plunker.... I know how to link in someplaces. never used plunker.
[04:01:18] <tranzpupy> zJust started learning Angular
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[04:03:51] <tranzpupy> checked every single character last night against the example. very frustrating. 6 hours on this so far any suggesstions on how else to figure it out?
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[04:08:32] <tranzpupy> @helen thanks for trying. I'll try typin in alll th tutorial again.
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[04:15:15] <ftwordring> tranzpupy: 6 hours on the tutorial?
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[04:16:35] <ftwordring> tranzpupy: here's the thing, it's likely that you're trying to use expressions outside of the rootScope, the rootScope is instantiated inside of your ngApp. Outside the scope of your main ngApp nothing angular is going to work by design.
[04:16:58] <ftwordring> without being able to figure that out on your own though you're going to have a bad time
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[04:18:24] <ftwordring> also, if you're just starting out programming, try learning by using working examples already instead of trying to recreate them yourself. for instance, try to tweak someone else's existing code and see what happens, then try and figure out why
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[04:38:09] <whiteboo_> Hello! Can anyone help me with a small issue. I just downloaded Angular beta 1.3.b16 and I am trying to use ng-repeat, but the values in the {{tag}} are not being rendered, but if I put text in the tag it is being rendered just the variables are not being converted
[04:38:20] <whiteboo_> where do I look to debug this
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[04:40:55] <Stephen> Evening all
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[04:41:04] <whiteboo_> Hello!
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[04:43:51] <Stephen> So, Anyone care to talk client data service/layer with me?
[04:43:57] <ftwordring> can you paste the smallest possible example of your issue in a plunkr or equivalent plz?
[04:44:01] <ftwordring> whiteboo_
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[04:44:17] <whiteboo_> sure.
[04:44:41] <Stephen> I'll be basing my conversation on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DMacL7iwjSMPP0ytZfugpU4v0PWUK0BT6lhyaVEmlBQ/mobilebasic
[04:45:02] <Stephen> specifically ngData & HTTP implementations
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[04:47:55] <ftwordring> idk, do I have to talk to be involved in the talk?
[04:48:03] <ftwordring> I don't have any opinions at the moment lol
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[04:48:24] <ftwordring> I'd like to be in the call :p
[04:48:26] <Stephen> lol
[04:48:47] <whiteboo_> ftwordring seems like it works fine in plunker, maybe I have to add something to my 1.3 version?
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[04:48:58] <whiteboo_> http://plnkr.co/edit/am8Lec8EF57r4CR2n7Hp?p=preview
[04:49:25] <whiteboo_> in the version 1.3 I am using, only the Yo! is getting rendered
[04:49:29] <Stephen> Let me be blunt: I have very strong opinions on these subjects, and I also tend to trust the Angular team's implementations. However, this specific area isn't well coded or documented yet
[04:50:23] <Stephen> So Im soliciting team and non-team members so I can help myself form a fuller opinion and understanding
[04:50:41] <ftwordring> whiteboo_ you can change the version of angular you're loading if you suspect that's the problem
[04:50:47] <caitp> what's the question exactly?
[04:51:04] <whiteboo_> Yeah, I thought maybe I am just missing something obvious
[04:51:19] <whiteboo_> like perhaps a angular-* dep
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[04:51:31] <whiteboo_> but clearly this is working on plunkr
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[04:52:14] <Stephen> Because I'm currently on a team who uses DurandalJS extensively, and we know eventually we'll have to upgrade to Angular. I recently got approval to PoC and implement a "clientside datalayer" for the entire project, so I'm going to make sure it's as compatible with Angular 2.0's implementation as possible
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[04:52:39] <Stephen> caitp, How can I learn more of the details around ngData?
[04:52:48] <caitp> ngData doesn't even exist yet
[04:52:52] <ftwordring> isn't angular 2.0 not even due out for 6 months or so?
[04:52:57] <caitp> nobody has even started working on that
[04:53:03] <ftwordring> lol
[04:53:24] <Stephen> Is there any more documentation/braindumps beyond the document I listed earlier?
[04:53:27] <Stephen> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DMacL7iwjSMPP0ytZfugpU4v0PWUK0BT6lhyaVEmlBQ/mobilebasic
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[04:53:40] <caitp> there is basically nothing
[04:53:47] <Stephen> ..wow
[04:53:54] <caitp> just the design docs and github issues on the various 2.0 repos
[04:54:04] <caitp> and the content of team meetings
[04:54:11] <caitp> (where this has not come up in my memory)
[04:54:19] <Stephen> Yeah, Im browsing through those
[04:54:28] <whiteboo_> ftwordring, thanks for the help I figured out the problem, not angular seems like templating conflict, is there a way to change the template tags from '{{' to something like '##'?
[04:54:49] <ftwordring> I believe so but I don't know off the top
[04:54:52] <Stephen> I see a concerted effort to establish more rpbust Models in those notes
[04:55:08] <whiteboo_> seems like my server side templating engine is rendering those tags on the server side
[04:55:19] <whiteboo_> because thats the same syntax
[04:55:24] <caitp> trust me, nobody has any real idea how the robust models will fit together with the rest of it
[04:55:31] <caitp> it's just a prototype
[04:55:37] <caitp> or rather, half a dozen prototypes
[04:55:39] <Stephen> there's actually a prototype?
[04:55:43] <caitp> yeah
[04:55:44] <Stephen> Ah
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[04:56:19] <caitp> all the various repos, watchtower, expressionist, templating, router, di.js, zone.js
[04:56:23] <caitp> http
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[04:56:39] <caitp> some of it will probably be thrown away and done over
[04:56:56] <caitp> and as for playing with it, there's basically zero documentation or support yet
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[04:57:03] <Stephen> That's to be suspected
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[04:57:20] <Stephen> Though I thought you guys were farther along than what I'm gathering
[04:58:11] <ftwordring> "you guys"?
[04:58:12] <ftwordring> lol
[04:58:13] <Stephen> I figured around a December release at earliest,
[04:58:17] <ftwordring> this is just an IRC dude
[04:58:28] <Stephen> ftwordring, caitp is a core developer
[04:58:43] <ftwordring> orly?
[04:58:47] <ftwordring> go to sleep caitp
[04:58:48] <ftwordring> lol
[04:59:00] <caitp> there's been a bit of a break lately due to rushing to get 1.3 stable
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[04:59:14] <Stephen> I can understand that
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[04:59:20] <caitp> progress is slow :>
[04:59:22] <blackkbot> no sleep for the wicked
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[05:00:58] <Stephen> Eisenburg has been so quiet lately on Durandal i figured he was heads down
[05:01:09] <jason___> hello, any expert here to give a help?
[05:01:32] <blackkbot> nope all noobs :-P we just talk about the weather
[05:01:41] <caitp> he's doing stuff in 2.0 still, i'm not sure what exactly
[05:01:54] <caitp> mostly the router
[05:03:14] <Stephen> Hmmm
[05:03:17] <Stephen> https://github.com/EisenbergEffect/component
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[05:03:32] <Stephen> Looks like the last week he's been poking around there
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[05:04:15] <jpstone> anyone have any experience with ngCordova?
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[05:04:49] <Stephen> ngCoNOva
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[05:05:19] <caitp> i've done some stuff with cordova
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[05:05:36] <caitp> not with angular though
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[05:05:55] <jason___> bootstrap carousel not working when use together with ngrepeat
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[05:06:14] <caitp> it's probably a bug
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[05:07:24] <Stephen> jason___, is the carousel wrapped in a directive?
[05:07:37] <jason___> yes
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[05:07:44] <Stephen> directives inside of ngRepeat were touchy if I remember right
[05:08:23] <Stephen> do this: Make the directive simple, where it just includes a templateUrl and passes scope
[05:08:41] <Stephen> In the the template HTML use the carousel directive
[05:09:12] <Stephen> Should play nicer than directly placing it in a node inside ng-repeat
[05:09:14] <jason___> what i meant not working is- there is no animating of carousel at all
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[05:10:01] <Stephen> a plunkr would probably help. Are you using ng-bootstrap?
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[05:10:14] <Stephen> er
[05:10:15] <Stephen> Sorry
[05:10:17] <Stephen> AngularUI
[05:10:49] <caitp> i recall something about that in issues lately
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[05:12:46] <Stephen> https://github.com/angular-ui/bootstrap/issues?labels=component%3A+carousel&page=1&state=open
[05:12:53] <Stephen> https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues?labels=component%3A+ngRepeat&milestone=32&page=1&state=open
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[05:19:33] <Aliks> would you guys consider seeing $parent.$parent.something in a template a code smell?
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[05:22:07] <Stephen> Aliks, typically yes. My only exception would be if it's a small template used in a larger one but only in that one, only templated for cache and code sake
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[05:24:55] <Aliks> Stephen ok then we agree.. just checking
[05:25:38] <robdubya> jpstone ya, writing a plugin at the moment
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[05:38:55] <davek> Anyone serve assets from an s3 bucket? Getting CORS issues despite having CORS policy set up correclty.
[05:38:56] <davek> correctly*
[05:39:02] <davek> Or what should be correctly.
[05:39:20] <Stephen> davek: Code running from localhost?
[05:39:44] <Stephen> Or loading from the filesystem?
[05:39:54] <davek> No but its a wildcard host policy anyway.
[05:39:58] <davek> No I'm loading from Amazon S3.
[05:40:18] <Stephen> I mean the javascript and/or HTML
[05:40:26] <Stephen> Not the assets
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[05:41:21] <Stephen> Browsers except Firefox tend to not like CORS at all when the page is loaded from the filesystem
[05:41:27] <davek> No, but again that wouldn't matter.
[05:41:30] <Stephen> K
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[05:41:35] <Stephen> Just wanted to be sure
[05:41:55] <Stephen> What's the error you're getting?
[05:42:18] <davek> Yeah that's a good catch, I appreciate it.
[05:43:00] <davek> Image from origin '<<bucket_url>>' has been blocked from loading by Cross-Origin Resource Sharing policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin '<<site_url>>' is therefore not allowed access."
[05:43:07] <davek> Bucket policy is 100% correct however.
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[05:47:25] <Stephen> For the hell of it: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/cors.html
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[05:48:18] <Stephen> But it sounds like, davek, you've got origins setup right, but maybe not exposing the headers you need?
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[05:50:42] <davek> The only header specified is Authorization which is irrelevant for anonymous requests anyway.
[05:51:31] <Stephen> What headers are being returned?
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[05:51:52] <Stephen> Because the error reads as if the response doesn't include CORS headers
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[05:52:34] <YoungChap> Anyone have a killer technical whitepaper template or general advice? (I've already googled, looking for pro tips)
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[05:52:58] <BahamutWC|Laptop> davek: is it not possible to have your backend be set up to act as an intermediary to avoid CORS?
[05:53:00] <davek> Stephen, eh? What CORS headers were you expecting?
[05:53:06] <BahamutWC|Laptop> instead of directly dealing with your bucket?
[05:53:11] <davek> BahamutWC|Laptop it is but it's not preferable.
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[05:54:14] <Stephen> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/cors.html#how-do-i-enable-cors
[05:54:41] <Stephen> davek: It should respond with an Access-Control-Allow-Origin header
[05:54:51] <Stephen> That's literally the header name
[05:55:17] <Stephen> If not in the get request, possibly in a pre HEAD or OPTIONS request
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[05:55:20] <Stephen> response
[05:56:14] <Stephen> BahamutWC|Laptop, Buckets are typically meant for someone else to provide the data, like client BYOD
[05:56:30] <Stephen> Doing what you say defeats their purpose
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[05:56:53] <BahamutWC|Laptop> hm
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[05:58:06] <davek> Stephen, like I said the allowed origin is a wildcard and is indeed being set.
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[05:59:21] <Stephen> davek: But is the header appearing in the response
[05:59:29] <Stephen> check your network panel
[05:59:39] <Stephen> I do not doubt your config
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[05:59:44] <Stephen> I doubt the server's response
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[06:01:33] <test> 444444444444444444444444
[06:01:56] <test> 888
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[06:10:51] <davek> Stephen, no it is not because the CORS request was denied.
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[06:14:11] <Stephen> I got nothing then
[06:14:22] <Stephen> check your network panel
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[06:18:24] <davek> It looks like it may be a regression in the most recent version of chrome.
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[06:20:46] <Aerospark> is yeoman better than using a angular seed?
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[06:22:23] <cyen_> hello, could someone help me with angular-ui/ui-router? I want to inject a partial in my view depending on a user property
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[06:29:35] <davek> Aerospark, they're both opinionated and they're both poor substitutes for learning proper project structure/modifying the structure to work for your app.
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[06:34:03] <SuperPhly> *puts on noob hat* How do I relay a variable from my node.js express route (such as /user/:id) to the controller? What's the preferred method for doing so?
[06:34:05] <davek> Looks like knox is swallowing an error with the upload to begin with. The CORS issue fixed itself (no explanation whatsoever, I'm assuming some weird lagtime between policy updates on their end).
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[06:34:19] <davek> SuperPhly, you JSON-encode it.
[06:34:38] <SuperPhly> davek: right, but where in the DOM?
[06:34:41] <davek> res.send({ thing: value })
[06:34:44] <davek> SuperPhly what?
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[06:35:05] <davek> You get the requested value in a response yeah? Assign that to a scope variable.
[06:35:16] <SuperPhly> ok, let me explain a bit better... say i visit : site.com/user/15
[06:35:25] <SuperPhly> how do i get that value of 15?
[06:35:31] <SuperPhly> without parsing the damn url
[06:35:36] <davek> You parse the URL...
[06:36:04] <davek> If you're accessing resource 15, you got the 15 from somewhere didn't you?
[06:36:22] <SuperPhly> right, from the express routes
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[06:36:40] <SuperPhly> i was wondering if i handled that "userId=15" from the backend
[06:36:56] <SuperPhly> so i don't have to have yet another place to handle routes and stuff
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[06:37:23] <SuperPhly> since my backend has a nice app.get('/user/:id') i figured i could pass that id down into the DOM that gets sent out.
[06:38:13] <SuperPhly> that way if i ever change where /user/ is, i don't have to update a house of cards and regex's
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[06:40:06] <davek> SuperPhly, that makes no sense. You can of course return it with the data from the back end.
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[06:40:45] <davek> SuperPhly, you shouldn't need to update much if you're properly wrapping the user resource in an angular service.
[06:40:46] <SuperPhly> right, but where in the document (HTML) do I assign the variable?
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[06:41:06] <davek> Nowhere, HTML doesn't do assignment.
[06:41:30] <cyen___> Could I get help using angular-ui/ui-router?
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[06:41:50] <SuperPhly> davek: ok, then i must be approaching this really wrong.
[06:41:51] <cyen___> I want to inject a partial view into a view, and it isn't working
[06:42:26] <davek> SuperPhly, it certainly sounds like it. If you can create a plunkr or something to demonstrate your issue. HTML is purely markup, has nothing to do with variable assignment.
[06:43:01] <davek> Typically if the client needs data on user #15 it makes a GET request to /users/15 and receives JSON-encoded data.
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[06:43:59] <SuperPhly> .. /users/15 is outputting HTML
[06:44:08] <SuperPhly> .. /api/users/15 is outputting json
[06:44:41] <davek> You need a rendering engine to do what you want to do but it's also weird and unnecessary considering angular does the same thing without the extra request.
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[06:45:13] <SuperPhly> i'm using ejs
[06:45:40] <SuperPhly> it's a single user app, i don't need to worry about performance really
[06:45:54] <SuperPhly> i'd rather have nearly everything powered via JSON
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[06:47:19] <davek> Why are you using EJS? You're doing what angular would do anyway but you're doing it redundantly and with less performance.
[06:47:36] <davek> SuperPhly, but you're doing all this to _avoid_ being powered via JSON.
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[06:48:10] <SuperPhly> I'm using EJS to pull together the template, header/footer/etc
[06:48:34] <SuperPhly> i'm loading up the angular bits and having it call for JSON to then do client side templating.
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[06:49:19] <SuperPhly> i don't see why i'm avoid JSON when i'm using it almost exclusively.
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[06:49:49] <SuperPhly> eventually i want this to be a single page load
[06:49:53] <SuperPhly> since there will be audio playing
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[06:52:08] <davek> SuperPhly this is what angular views (I'd suggest ui-view to avoid the layout issue) are for. You're avoiding JSON by templating data on the back end when you already have angular's templating engine AND the relevant data ON THE CLIENT.
[06:52:58] <SuperPhly> davek: i don't have the data on the client side.
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[06:53:06] <SuperPhly> all i have is the template
[06:53:09] <davek> What gets returned from /api/users/15 then?
[06:53:21] <SuperPhly> JSON, but the template doesn't know that URL yet.
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[06:53:30] <davek> The template doesn't need to know the URL...
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[06:53:38] <davek> Why would the template give a damn about the URL?
[06:53:51] <SuperPhly> to know where to send the $http request
[06:54:06] <SuperPhly> either i'm 100% retarded, or we are misunderstanding each other
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[06:54:30] <SuperPhly> the controller needs to be sent an ID to query, so it can get back the right JSON
[06:54:35] <SuperPhly> it needs to know that value of 15
[06:54:37] <SuperPhly> right?
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[06:55:03] <davek> SuperPhly, your controller gets this by parsing the client-side route params.
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[06:55:12] <davek> it then makes the request to the appropriate resource URI.
[06:55:20] <SuperPhly> ah, ok.
[06:55:23] <SuperPhly> there we go.
[06:55:24] <davek> It receives a JSON-encoded response from the server containing that resource's data.
[06:55:30] <davek> It assigns that data to a scope object.
[06:55:39] <davek> That object or its properties are then displayed in the template.
[06:55:43] <SuperPhly> i've got that part, but i don't understand how to do the routes thing.
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[06:56:03] <davek> https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngRoute/service/$routeParams
[06:56:04] <SuperPhly> to make the controller aware of what id it's on.
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[06:56:14] <davek> Suggest perhaps reviewing the introductory tutorials. They cover this exact issue.
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[06:57:02] <SuperPhly> in an entirely unrelated question that may not pertain to this channel entirely, but how close are we to a better integration between angular and node?
[06:57:11] <SuperPhly> so i can manage my routes on both ends, in one place
[06:57:19] <davek> Hopefully nowhere close at all.
[06:57:25] <SuperPhly> haha
[06:57:31] <recurrence> What's the best way to do polling with angular (I am on latest stable)?
[06:57:31] <davek> There's a reason client and server domains are separated.
[06:57:49] <recurrence> SuperPhly: Perhaps in the future you wont need node at all; you'll just hit the database directly :)
[06:57:53] <davek> If you want simplicity/consistency out of the box look at sails.
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[06:58:09] <davek> recurrence, you can do that already. It's useless but you can.
[06:58:27] <recurrence> davek: Have you tried out angular + firebase? Very slick :)
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[06:58:40] <davek> I have but that's not what you're describing at all.
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[07:08:35] <davek> Total long shot but has anyone got knox streaming uploads working? None of the stream events work as expected and it eats any errors returned by S3.
[07:08:43] <Elezium> Hello folks.. I have a controller that call a services but I can't manage (or.. honestly don't know how to do it) to get a value back from the services. I want the service to return a value (ie: success or failure) so in my controller, I can update the view accordingly. Anyone can give me hand?
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[07:11:17] <davek> Elezium, post the probelm (preferably with a plunkr).
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[07:12:57] <Elezium> http://plnkr.co/edit/SzXg3effsrn5RrfKTpw1?p=catalogue
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[07:13:50] <Elezium> Look at the login part in both controller and services.
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[07:18:43] <davek> Elezium, the point of a plunkr is to simulate the failing case.
[07:18:53] <davek> Create a small page, load your app and then demonstrate where it fails to do what you expect.
[07:19:32] <Elezium> davek, The code I put in here odes not fail .. in fact, I did try a few thing and I did not work, so I revert it back to what was working.
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[07:23:30] <Elezium> davek, but basically, can a service return a value ?
[07:23:35] <davek> Yes of course.
[07:23:37] <davek> That's what they're for.
[07:23:41] <davek> You made a factory though, not a service.
[07:23:50] <davek> They can also return values.
[07:24:04] <davek> Any function/property in JS can return a value. You need to be more specific.
[07:24:10] <davek> Creating a failing test sample helps withthis.
[07:24:48] <Elezium> davek, Yeah.. you are right.. I'll just need to create one that fails with plunker, never work with that tools.. beginner..
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[07:25:42] <Elezium> I'll try to create a new plunk ... to clarify
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[07:30:01] <davek> Cool, knox is bugged to hell. Looks like I'm stuck using the AWS API or hacking everything together. This blows.
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[07:32:24] <syed99> wow i posted a questin(in angularjs) no body can answer ...lol
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[07:43:12] <Elezium> davek, Sorry Davek.. it says angular is not defined in plunkr ... and it's about 2am ... I'll check this out tomorrow.. Thanks for you time.
[07:43:40] <ckboii89> @robdubya you here?
[07:43:52] <senthil_> yes
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[07:44:55] <senthil_> i want to know about angular-js configuration in linex os
[07:45:18] <senthil_> i mean xamp
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[07:45:50] <davek> syed99, I see no question.
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[07:50:10] <syed99> check my plunker :http://plnkr.co/edit/xvoz9KIpACsWbAEKqZR1?p=preview
[07:50:38] <ssss> cool
[07:51:05] <syed99> in that date pickers are opened for all the cell, not the cell i selected
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[07:51:18] <syed99> *cells
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[07:53:19] <davek> syed99 lots of stuff wrong here.
[07:53:32] <davek> For one you create startDateOpened as an array then later assign it a bool value, overwriting the array.
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[07:53:43] <syed99> and i know it is buggy, but i assume i clear my point
[07:53:47] <davek> When you reference it from your repeated element you don't use the index, so it's just evaluating the variable, not an index.
[07:53:52] <davek> syed99, not at all.
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[07:55:37] <davek> You're also referencing unassigned variables in multiple places.
[07:55:41] <davek> No wonder nobody could help you, syed!
[07:55:54] <syed99> ok...i see
[07:55:58] <johnkevinmbasco> does karma have a hook where I can run a task to cleanup/reset the db for every run of an end-to-end test?
[07:56:40] <syed99> i revamp my questin and ask again, any way thanks for suggestions
[07:57:04] <davek> johnkevinmbasco, before/after yes.
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[07:57:56] <davek> syed99, sounds good.
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[07:58:28] <johnkevinmbasco> davek: I think its not in the docs right? Can you point me to some references on how to use those before/after hooks?
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[08:01:06] <davek> johnkevinmbasco, before/after are not part of karma. Karma is a test runner. Resetting your mocks is part of a testing framework. In your case, either angular scenarios or whatever you're using.
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[08:01:16] <davek> Also recognize that karma is no longer suggested for use with angular.
[08:01:19] <davek> See:https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/e2e-testing
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[08:02:35] <BobbieBarker> sweet konversation is working again
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[08:02:56] <BobbieBarker> hey what solutions would you guys recommend for editing content in place, i.e editable content
[08:03:13] <Gooder> hi, I am using the ui-router. There is a note "The resolve keyword MUST be relative to state not views (in case you use multiple views)." in https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/wiki/Nested-States-%26-Nested-Views .
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[08:03:26] <Gooder> I don't understand it.
[08:03:31] <BobbieBarker> i means
[08:03:33] <BobbieBarker> it means
[08:03:45] <BobbieBarker> you do your resolve in your routing
[08:03:46] <BobbieBarker> so
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[08:04:14] <johnkevinmbasco> davek: (facepalm). Ive been confused. we are using karma for unit and midway(integration) testing but using protractor for e2e testing. So I should ask if protractor has a before/after hook. Anyway I guess I can write a grunt task that runs protractor tests so I can do before/after processing. or just expose an endpoint in a secured test env to cleanup db. What do u think?
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[08:06:22] <BobbieBarker> http://laravel.io/bin/Jm71j
[08:06:28] <BobbieBarker> Gooder ^^
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[08:06:36] <Gooder> BobbieBarker: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/98975ba29790f4a5f185
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[08:07:17] <BobbieBarker> wtf is that views shit
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[08:07:52] <BobbieBarker> you're doing it wrong
[08:07:54] <BobbieBarker> lol
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[08:08:28] <BobbieBarker> http://laravel.io/bin/Lyl2e
[08:08:32] <BobbieBarker> this is what the answer looks like
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[08:09:32] <Gooder> so it means i cannot use the *views* ?
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[08:09:55] <BobbieBarker> wtf is that even for?
[08:10:00] <BobbieBarker> just declare your templateURL
[08:10:28] <Gooder> I have to replace the root "@pages" with different content pages.
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[08:11:05] <BobbieBarker> use a heiarchy
[08:11:07] <BobbieBarker> in your routes?
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[08:12:22] <BobbieBarker> and then inject the views?
[08:12:25] <BobbieBarker> using ui-view
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[08:12:29] <Gooder> yes, ui-view
[08:12:56] <Gooder> define a <div ui-view="pages"></div> in the index.xml.
[08:13:11] <BobbieBarker> you can have nested views though too
[08:13:17] <BobbieBarker> you don't just have one ui-view in your index.html
[08:13:17] <Gooder> and then define different views "xxx@pages" to switch the page.
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[08:13:29] <BobbieBarker> yeah thats like the kiddie version of things
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[08:14:13] <bin> morning guys
[08:14:20] <bin> i have a problem which i cannot understand
[08:14:24] <bin> i have 3 modules
[08:14:36] <bin> 1 of them is like a main module
[08:14:50] <bin> so i add second module and after that i add third module
[08:15:03] <bin> i have dependency to a factory in the third imodule from the second module
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[08:15:24] <bin> but still third module cannot inject that factory and use it why's that
[08:15:50] <BobbieBarker> because the factory needs it's module for configuration
[08:15:53] <BobbieBarker> you have 2 choices
[08:16:07] <BobbieBarker> break the factory into 2 factories if possible or put the factory into it's own module
[08:16:13] <BobbieBarker> and inject it back into both modules
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[08:17:22] <bin> but i think i have some services that work in this way
[08:17:28] <BobbieBarker> so no recommendations on what to use for editable content?
[08:17:38] <BobbieBarker> we call those like global components
[08:17:52] <BobbieBarker> we have a component dir and each one is it's own module
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[08:19:05] <bin> hm what i thought work only with providers i think
[08:19:28] <BobbieBarker> we use it on directives mostly
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[08:24:19] <wafflejock_> Anyone know of a replacement for HTML5 number picker in angular... if not going to build it but figured I'd ask
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[08:25:18] <BobbieBarker> what do you mean number picker?
[08:25:20] <wafflejock_> the HTML5 number picker isn't supported by IE 8 or 9 or slightly dated versions of FF so looking to use something that will work across the board
[08:25:27] <wafflejock_> you can do input type="number"
[08:25:33] <BobbieBarker> yeah?
[08:25:41] <wafflejock_> in new browsers it gives you up down arrows but in old browsers not so much
[08:25:49] <BobbieBarker> oh you mean the spinner?
[08:25:53] <wafflejock_> so looking for a directive replacement for the input that works on old browsers
[08:25:54] <wafflejock_> yeah
[08:25:54] <BobbieBarker> that shows up on the right
[08:26:01] <BobbieBarker> no i usually turn that off
[08:26:06] <BobbieBarker> like 99.95% of the time
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[08:26:14] <BobbieBarker> cuz its stupid
[08:26:26] <BobbieBarker> if you want a number that is over like 10 you're just going to type it
[08:26:30] <wafflejock_> okay well in this case it makes sense
[08:26:32] <wafflejock_> it's number of nights stay
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[08:26:54] <BobbieBarker> sorry bro i have nothing for you
[08:26:59] <wafflejock_> k no biggie
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[08:27:11] <BobbieBarker> do you have any recomendations on content editable stuff?
[08:27:22] <BobbieBarker> i.e http://inchsurf.com/ng-contenteditable/demo/index.html#home
[08:27:32] <BobbieBarker> i like that ^^ but the project doesn't look like it is being supported anymore
[08:27:43] <BobbieBarker> or actively developed on
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[08:28:28] <wafflejock_> yeah dunno I've used angular-xeditable for similar things but don't see any active development on it either https://github.com/vitalets/angular-xeditable
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[08:29:19] <wafflejock_> that said it worked fine for everything I needed to make an "editable" table mixing it with ngTable for the sorting and header parts
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[08:29:40] <wafflejock_> I've seen a few others but haven't really tried any of them for any real projects
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[08:30:07] <BobbieBarker> i've looked at xeditable it hink it is kind of clunky, My fear with using a project that isn't being actively developed on is kinda the obvious one.... if we upgrade angularJS versions then the editable solution may not work anymore
[08:30:18] <BobbieBarker> or ever again
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[08:30:59] <wafflejock_> BobbieBarker: yeah if the project has good test coverage then it might not be too terrible to upgrade it in-house if need be
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[08:31:14] <BobbieBarker> true
[08:31:18] <BobbieBarker> i suppose
[08:31:29] <wafflejock_> I hear ya though
[08:31:35] <wafflejock_> would be better to find something active
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[08:33:19] <BobbieBarker> ya, i'm doing my research, i was hoping some one in here would know of something awesome
[08:33:22] <BobbieBarker> and make my work easy
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[08:33:47] <wafflejock_> same :), mine should be easy to put together though
[08:34:05] <BobbieBarker> if i have to buld mine myself it will suck :(
[08:34:19] <BobbieBarker> do you know if angularJS plays well with the html5 contentEditable tag?
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[08:36:40] <wafflejock_> BobbieBarker: yeah I think so I've seen some basic stuff using contentEditable out there too without all the bells and whistles of these other ones https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/type/ngModel.NgModelController
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[08:37:00] <wafflejock_> search contentEditable there and check out the codes
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[08:39:28] <BobbieBarker> yeah
[08:39:39] <BobbieBarker> maybe i'll just use ng-contentEditable it's so fucking sexy
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[08:40:52] <BobbieBarker> http://jsfiddle.net/joshdmiller/NDFHg/ <<-- this is a good starting off point though
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[08:43:25] <wafflejock_> BobbieBarker: yup looks simple enough if you just need text editing in place
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[08:43:55] <wafflejock_> BobbieBarker: you can style it to make it look nice pretty easily I'm sure too, just need something like ng-contentedtiable if you want the image features and rich text editor stuff
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[08:50:35] <SuperPhly> I'm having an issue with routeParams not defined: https://gist.github.com/superphly/1bba57338df45ccb58d5
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[08:51:17] <SuperPhly> I have ngRoute in there, it's loaded in the head of the document, i'm passing it like it says
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[08:54:22] <supermassiv> see how you pass in $routeParams but reference routeParams?
[08:54:29] <supermassiv> would that by why?
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[08:56:44] <SuperPhly> ok, so i made it $routeParams and now it says undefined.
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[08:56:51] <SuperPhly> so we're getting somewhere
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[08:57:15] <supermassiv> haha
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[08:57:58] <SuperPhly> is .id reserved?
[08:58:21] <supermassiv> wouldn't think so for $routeParams
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[09:00:58] <SuperPhly> could it be a race condition?
[09:01:01] <SuperPhly> oh wait, nvm
[09:01:09] <SuperPhly> been writing node for a week now
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[09:07:33] <SuperPhly> ok, $routeParams is never getting set
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[09:15:05] <SuperPhly> this is impossible (to me at least) to debug.
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[09:24:09] <kemm0> jj
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[09:24:28] <BobbieBarker> hey does anyone now how to set focus/trigger something when you use the tab key?
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[09:24:30] <BobbieBarker> to navigate the page
[09:24:44] <BobbieBarker> so i use tab key and when i come onto an element it has the same affect as ng-click
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[09:26:07] <davemerwin> @BobbieBarker what do you mean? how do you detect it?
[09:26:22] <SuperPhly> what the hell am i missing?
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[09:26:55] <SuperPhly> https://gist.github.com/superphly/1bba57338df45ccb58d5
[09:27:00] <davemerwin> @BobbieBarker isn't the action the enter key after a tab to focus?
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[09:27:16] <SuperPhly> $routeParams.id <-- undefined
[09:27:48] <SuperPhly> but it should be getting set there in line 9... whop.config(function($routeProvider) {
[09:28:35] <BobbieBarker> yeah how do you detect it so you can trigger something off of it davemerwin
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[09:28:58] <BobbieBarker> davemerwin i dunno dude i'm kind of shooting in the dark ehre
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[09:29:51] <davemerwin> @BobbieBarker - what are you trying to trigger? I'd be REALLY careful messing with tab and enter controls for accessibility reasons. Unless you don't care.
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[09:32:49] <BobbieBarker> i'm trying to trigger a content editable
[09:32:52] <BobbieBarker> in a table
[09:33:00] <BobbieBarker> so you can tab through it and edit
[09:33:02] <BobbieBarker> with out using a mouse
[09:33:25] <BobbieBarker> content Editable directive
[09:34:00] <davemerwin> @BobbieBarker Ahhhh - ok. So tab OR click - it's abotu focus right? Have you seen this? https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngFocus and this http://blog.ejci.net/2013/08/06/dealing-with-focus-and-blur-in-angularjs-directives/ ?
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[09:34:18] <BobbieBarker> yeah i saw ng-focus but it doesn't seem to trigger
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[09:34:24] <BobbieBarker> http://jsfiddle.net/joshdmiller/NDFHg/
[09:34:29] <BobbieBarker> thats kind of the base i'm working off of
[09:34:34] <davemerwin> @SuperPhly - what is the error you are getting?
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[09:34:52] <SuperPhly> no error, just that $routeParams is undefined
[09:35:06] <SuperPhly> it's not grabbing that :id or setting it.
[09:35:26] <SuperPhly> i'm visiting this page: /artists/13
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[09:37:32] <SuperPhly> chrome reports no errors, other than nothing being returned when it tries to grab /api/artists/undefined/json
[09:38:23] <davemerwin> @BobbieBarker well, would you want to evaluate if it has focus and then fire your edit? So something along the lines of an expression in the ng-focus that if true shows the edit field?
[09:38:38] <DrMabuse> sorry guys i have to filter from an array all objetcts out that have an valu aas nul lie this $filter('filter')(temp,'value.axis:!null');
[09:38:59] <DrMabuse> but this always return me an empty array
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[09:39:13] <DrMabuse> there was something special for that ?
[09:39:26] <DrMabuse> $filter('orderBy')(machines,'value.axis',false);
[09:39:28] <DrMabuse> works
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[09:39:34] <davemerwin> @SuperPhly - have you tried a browser besides chrome? there is a bug, I'm not sure of teh details, but it keeps you from seeing what teh dependency injection error can be. I've had luck switching to Safari i thos instances to try and get better detail
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[09:40:37] <supermassiv> ah yeah i use firefox now because of the fucked up shit in the console (or not in the console) with chrome :(
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[09:40:59] <SuperPhly> where are the debug tools in safari?
[09:41:15] <DrMabuse> you have to enable the developer tab
[09:41:27] <SuperPhly> fucking steve jobs.
[09:41:42] <DrMabuse> How cool is zed
[09:41:45] <DrMabuse> zed is dead
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[09:43:38] <SuperPhly> nope, no errors in the console...
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[09:43:59] <SuperPhly> i've looked for misspellings, i've changed the names of things
[09:44:38] <davemerwin> I can't see anything, do you have a plunkr running for it?
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[09:45:12] <SuperPhly> no, i just started this tonight
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[09:45:14] <zbzzn> so... if ($scope.foo) {$scope.foo = $scope.foo} :(
[09:45:16] <SuperPhly> learning as we go.
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[09:50:00] <lumio> hello there… anyone knows if ui-router raises an event when all views were loading successfully
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[09:51:25] <SuperPhly> alright, i'm going to get back on this tomorrow. :(
[09:51:36] <SuperPhly> davemerwin: thanks for the help
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[09:52:04] <aninoy> @SuperPhly I created this plunkr for your situation: http://plnkr.co/edit/igjucf63iHqmei6wx19j?p=preview
[09:52:11] <SuperPhly> ah
[09:52:17] <davemerwin> @SuperPhylu - a great learning resource is https://egghead.io/lessons/angularjs-http
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[09:54:31] <SuperPhly> aninoy: i'm not sure what to do with that...
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[09:55:21] <SuperPhly> i mean, thank you... but i'm not sure how to test my scenario
[09:55:31] <aninoy> I created it to see what was happening
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[09:56:30] <aninoy> I put in a link that takes you to "artists/13" but it just says "not found" when I click the link
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[09:57:32] <SuperPhly> right...
[09:57:51] <SuperPhly> i'm guessing it's trying to load plnkr.co/artists/13
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[09:58:07] <pp__> can i knw angularjs full tutorial link ?
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[09:59:05] <aninoy> crap! totally new to plunkr... never mind
[09:59:12] <davemerwin> @SuperPhly - right. You'd need to create an array for the data to test it - just posting it to Plunkr isn't going to show you what the issue is
[09:59:14] <SuperPhly> hehe
[10:00:00] <SuperPhly> davemerwin: what array is it looking for?
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[10:00:57] <davemerwin> you can create a data array - something that would standing in for the list - but I think that is going to complicate the issue
[10:01:06] <leonbienek> Hello!
[10:01:14] <davemerwin> the problem is the injection - right?
[10:01:30] <SuperPhly> my suspect is in the config
[10:01:36] <davemerwin> yes
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[10:02:16] <ckboii89> is there a way to override the medium size modal width?
[10:03:06] <davemerwin> @ckboii89 are you referring to bootstrap?
[10:03:16] <ckboii89> angular-ui modal
[10:03:34] <ckboii89> i guess bootstrap yes
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[10:03:47] <ckboii89> yes ui bootstrap
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[10:05:05] <davemerwin> wouldn't that be a less/sass or css issue? not ANgular?
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[10:05:31] <ckboii89> yeah
[10:05:42] <ckboii89> but not sure how to get the modal size property
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[10:06:45] <davemerwin> I'd suggest looking at the docs for Bootstrap
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[10:13:07] <davemerwin> @SuperPhly wait - how are you includeing teh scripst?
[10:13:17] <davemerwin> Grunt? Direct?
[10:13:17] <SuperPhly> davemerwin: in the head
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[10:13:33] <davemerwin> yeah, but how? can I see?
[10:13:39] <SuperPhly> sure
[10:13:56] <SuperPhly> https://gist.github.com/superphly/ae8a255652feca0e2160
[10:14:08] <SuperPhly> angular, route, controllers
[10:14:51] <davemerwin> argh - this is crazy making
[10:15:17] <davemerwin> yeah
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[10:21:26] <wafflejock_> ckboii89: check the loaded modal in the inspector and look for classes you can add styles to
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[10:22:04] <wafflejock_> also I'm about to fall asleep but if anyone else needs a simple numeric stepper here you go http://plnkr.co/edit/toOvZ5DDixS0rHrDzgaD?p=preview
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[10:24:29] <wafflejock_> ckboii89: worst case scenario look up how to override the ui-bootstrap templates
[10:24:48] <ckboii89> oh i found it
[10:24:49] <ckboii89> its ok
[10:24:50] <ckboii89> thanks
[10:24:58] <ckboii89> i just addded .modal-content to css
[10:25:03] <angelazou> I have an HTML string that is inside a ng-repeat and obtained through a function call, but I would like to show it as HTML
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[10:25:22] <angelazou> I tried using it with the | html filter but that doesn't seem to work
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[10:26:14] <angelazou> I don't really want to use the $sce.trustAsHtml because it seems I would need to use an extra loop to process everything
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[10:30:44] <miha> hi
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[10:31:07] <miha> is iz allowd to use element.css while using ng-csp directive
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[10:52:30] <ckboii89> hi whats the proper procedure to open another modal after click a ok button from the previous modal, dismissing it
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[10:52:34] <ckboii89> i dont want to stack
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[10:58:57] <ansu> ckboii89, modal's resolve like a promise so you could open the next modal when the previous modal is resolved?
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[11:05:26] <tangorri> hi there
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[11:12:07] <ckboii89> so i would do another open.modal in the resolve seciotn?
[11:12:13] <DrMabuse> Sorry guys plz help me iam to stupid build correct syntax $filter('filter')($scope.machines,['value.axes in $scope.filterAxes']); this is what i wanna try
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[11:12:30] <DrMabuse> $scope.filterAxes is ann array
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[11:13:50] <localjoost1> Hi, I am (beginning with AngularJS &&) playing around with the http://angular-google-maps.org… I can't get anything to load, and I don't really understand why. Here are some short code snippets -js: http://pastebin.com/2y3cir1D -html: http://pastebin.com/xFraPzUT —I think i followed the quickstart at the angular-google-maps site, but.. nothing :) So if anyone sees what I am not getting, could you please point me the the proper documentation
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[11:32:51] <okdamn> hello :)
[11:33:04] <okdamn> sorry which is the equivalent of routeChangeStart in ui-router?
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[11:49:36] <lite_> lunch in 10 minutes. gogogo
[11:50:03] <lite_> i should really start eating breakfast. about 2 hours before lunch my productivity drops to pathetic levels because all I think about is food
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[11:51:33] <mephinet> Hi there! Is anyone of you using protractor with windows 8.1 and IE11? Just curious if it works for you, as it doesn't work for me... Details: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/angular/lewRIYB8bD4
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[11:56:10] <thordy> Hey
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[11:56:54] <thordy> I have an issue with angularjs/http.get/CORS and I just cannot seem to figure it out. Would anyone be so kind to assist me with some understanding? I've tried to read online and I just cannot seem to figure it out
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[12:17:03] <leonbienek> Is it possible to fire a directive on an object property change?
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[12:17:26] <Keika> hey there
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[12:18:01] <Keika> say, I've done that: <option value="{{ activityType }}" ng-repeat="activityType in activityTypes">{{ activityType.label }}</option>
[12:18:12] <Keika> where actyvityType is an object
[12:18:28] <Keika> but in my model I get the object as string
[12:18:33] <Keika> is that "normal"
[12:18:35] <Keika> ?
[12:18:46] <leonbienek> Keika, have you looked into ng-options?
[12:18:52] <Keika> not yet
[12:18:58] <Keika> wanted to keep it simple
[12:19:09] <Keika> in the past I found ng-options harder to manage
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[12:19:18] <Keika> but might end up using it
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[12:19:50] <leonbienek> Yeah, i found it to be a little tricky to set up, but nice that it stores a reference to the selected object, rather than string value
[12:20:02] <Keika> ah ok
[12:20:06] <Keika> I'll try it them
[12:20:07] <Keika> then
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[12:21:11] <thordy> I'm having an issue with http.get requests denied by CORS, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to fix it. Can anyone offer some help?
[12:21:26] <Keika> sure thordy
[12:21:29] <Keika> what's your code
[12:21:41] <Keika> usually it's a preflight issue
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[12:22:04] <thordy> well, I am trying to do a simple GET at a site that returns to me just plain text
[12:22:50] <Keika> plain JSON?
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[12:22:55] <thordy> In IE it works fine (or in Chrome with web-security-disabled), but without i just get No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.
[12:22:59] <thordy> no, plain text
[12:23:01] <Keika> can you show some code? on plunker maybe
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[12:23:23] <thordy> will do, one sec
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[12:23:56] <Keika> leonbienek: thanks for the tip, it works just fine now :D
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[12:24:11] <leonbienek> Keika: no probs :)
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[12:26:16] <thordy> Keika; http://plnkr.co/edit/f7Zixxp5M1Q7T1mVCrYH?p=info
[12:26:22] <thordy> Hopefully that gives you some idea
[12:26:33] <thordy> now I am just printing it to console
[12:27:12] <thordy> as I said if I execute the link directly I get text back, and also if I do it in chrome with the -web-security-disabed option it works. But I cannot get it to work otherwise
[12:27:20] <thordy> and I do not fully understand whats wrong
[12:27:24] <thordy> I have no control over the server side
[12:27:26] <thordy> only my code
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[12:30:27] <thordy> Now it works and show the error i get in console
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[12:33:55] <thordy> The plinker I mean, it shows the exact error message that I get
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[12:49:17] <angNewBie> need some help to inject the binding programmatically.. any idea?
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[12:50:07] <angNewBie> hello
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[13:00:10] <uffs> hi
[13:00:11] <uffs> i've got a question about ngResource
[13:00:11] <uffs> i am trying to call a custom method of my Resource via resource's prototype
[13:00:42] <uffs> like so: Object.getPrototypeOf(scope.model).$add_message({id: scope.model.id, text: text})
[13:00:42] <uffs> for some reason angular fails to determine that 'text' should go in POST
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[13:01:15] <uffs> even though Case.add_message({id: scope.model.id, text: text}) works just fine
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[13:01:54] <uffs> (scope.model is a resource provided by Case)
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[13:06:21] <Hounddog> i dont really know how to check responsive anymore... i have a few toold for firefox and chrome and i get different results everywhere...
[13:06:29] <Hounddog> "tools"
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[13:12:43] <jacuqesdancona> So what's the in your opinion the best way to communicate from controller to directive?
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[13:12:58] <jacuqesdancona> services, scope & ?
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[13:13:29] <jacuqesdancona> watching vars on the directive scope
[13:13:35] <Foxandxss> depend
[13:13:42] <Foxandxss> you are asking too much different things at once
[13:13:45] <jacuqesdancona> a lot of options, but I still don't really know what's best
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[13:14:44] <Foxandxss> I should start my deep dive into directives soon
[13:14:53] <jacuqesdancona> most simple example would be to just call al directive method from a controller method
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[13:15:07] <jacuqesdancona> al = a *
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[13:15:37] <Foxandxss> normally you don't do that
[13:16:05] <jacuqesdancona> ok, it's a more complicated example ;)
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[13:16:39] <jacuqesdancona> it's pretty much about doing server requests, which should result in dom manipulation
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[13:25:31] <Aswebb> Hello guys
[13:25:52] <Aswebb> Using angularjs, how would you return the difference between 2 arrays of objects? using 2 forEach ?
[13:26:10] <Foxandxss> that is not angular but javascript
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[13:26:45] <Foxandxss> use lodash
[13:26:51] <Foxandxss> _.difference(array1, array2)
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[13:26:54] <Aswebb> ok thanks Foxandxss
[13:27:24] <Aswebb> is lodash implemented by default in Angular?
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[13:27:28] <Foxandxss> no
[13:27:30] <Aswebb> or should I download it myself
[13:27:31] <Aswebb> ok
[13:27:31] <Foxandxss> external dependency
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[13:27:46] <Foxandxss> but it is a must have in every project
[13:27:48] <Aswebb> I think I'll just write my 2 loops myself
[13:27:56] <Aswebb> ahh ok
[13:27:59] <thordy> Could anyone please help me understand how to fix this issue? See console for error: http://plnkr.co/edit/f7Zixxp5M1Q7T1mVCrYH?p=preview
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[13:28:53] <Aswebb> thats the browser security, I assume u are fetching data from your server hosted on another domain right?
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[13:29:01] <Foxandxss> he does
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[13:29:09] <Aswebb> Maybe you should use $http.jsonp
[13:29:14] <Aswebb> since u are calling an external API
[13:29:27] <thordy> Aswebb: yes
[13:29:38] <thordy> Well the problem is that the site returns raw text
[13:29:43] <thordy> and then the jsonp call fails
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[13:29:49] <thordy> when parsing
[13:29:57] <Foxandxss> yup
[13:30:02] <Foxandxss> they don't have an api?
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[13:30:18] <thordy> They might, I'm waiting for a response, but wanted to try this in the mean time
[13:30:28] <thordy> but is there really no way around this? To just get raw text?
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[13:37:35] <ani_> How do i make sure that analytics call goes as a last item after page load in Single page application?
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[13:38:35] <ani_> i try $viewcontentload but this is not working as expected
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[13:39:09] <ani_> @all anyone who can help me out?
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[13:44:26] <bojcbass> Hi there. I have a question regarding executing a function (defined inside a controller) from a directive, but with another directive beetween both (so this directive just passes forward the function). I made a quick example in plunker, but I thinks it's not the best solution to my problem
[13:44:29] <bojcbass> http://plnkr.co/edit/mS8Oea?p=preview
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[13:45:04] <bojcbass> if someone knows how to do this in a better way, it would be very helpful to me
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[13:46:36] <Foxandxss> bojcbass: uhm, I Am not sure to be honest
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[13:53:41] <Elanor> I'm having a curious problem. I'm trying to get the selected layout to persist. It persists over relogin, but refresh will always throw the first of the two choices, no matter what I've saved both locally ($sessionStorage) and on the server.
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[13:54:32] <Elanor> It seems a directive isn't referring to the scope variable where this layout is defined.
[13:55:16] <Elanor> Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[13:55:22] <Elanor> Any tips?
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[13:57:33] <nxf> Hi everyone, short question, would you recommend to use ngdoc comments for own code or is that only used by AngularJS' own code?
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[14:09:19] <gauravsaini03> Hello
[14:09:27] <gauravsaini03> <Foxandxss>
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[14:12:18] <Jowy_> Hi all
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[14:14:30] <Jowy_> I have a question and maybe you have the anwer : I have set a cookie for the auth but did you known how to set the expire/max age on it?
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[14:21:12] <zbzzn> is there a way to use : in ng-model? (e.g. ng-model="foo.bar.:.moo")?
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[14:22:56] <bd> ng-model="foo.bar[':'].moo" maybe
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[14:24:48] <zbzzn> yeah, that worked
[14:24:49] <zbzzn> thanks
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[14:27:08] <Hounddog> Hmmm using ui.router i need to somehow know if a state is triggered by a previous state or if it is directly accessed. I have a state which is a detail view. so di they get they by click or by bookmark... currently not sure how i could achieve this.
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[14:30:57] <zbzzn> Hounddog, you can look in the $stateChangeSuccess event
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[14:31:04] <zbzzn> it has fromState and toState
[14:31:13] <Hounddog> zbzzn: ahh that might work
[14:31:26] <Hounddog> zbzzn: was looking at the documentation have not seen those
[14:31:38] <Hounddog> at least you understood what i mean lol
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[14:31:46] <zbzzn> yeah, it is somehow hidden :(
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[14:32:14] <Hounddog> i also have to somehow pass the scope from the last state but anyhow... one step at a time...
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[14:34:26] <Hounddog> zbzzn: so i guess the idea would rather be to have 2 states and check if it came from somewhere go to state a otherwise b
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[14:35:43] <zbzzn> I don't know what you are trying to do, I just answered your question on how to know what was the previous state when it changes
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[14:35:56] <Hounddog> zbzzn: http://clingr.dev:9000/mshwalbe/test/di/769492401530355213_508026294
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[14:36:25] <Hounddog> on this i want to implement next/previous but for me to do that i need to know did the person go there directly or by click
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[14:36:30] <Hounddog> erm wron url
[14:36:39] <zbzzn> I guess your site is not "unresolved hostname"
[14:36:45] <Hounddog> https://clingr.de/fritzkola/fritzkola/di/770895912737939675_242480743
[14:36:49] <Hounddog> this is better :p
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[14:36:55] <Hounddog> zbzzn: that was my local one
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[14:38:19] <Hounddog> anyway il just try that
[14:38:25] <Hounddog> should basically work...
[14:38:39] <zbzzn> ok nice site
[14:39:27] <Hounddog> thx
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[14:47:29] <patrickr_> How can I put a directive on top a directive?
[14:47:30] <Hounddog> zbzzn: thx again seem to work so far
[14:47:45] <zbzzn> cool
[14:48:04] <zbzzn> patrickr_, define "on top"
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[14:49:08] <ftwordring> "like a cherry"
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[14:49:38] <patrickr_> zbzzn: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/93fb2041c5e6262ffb7f
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[14:49:46] <ftwordring> <div my-attr-directive another-attr-directive yet-another-directive /> would be valid
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[14:50:58] <zbzzn> patrickr_, I think you mean transclude
[14:51:10] <zbzzn> google for directive+transclude
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[14:51:46] <ftwordring> anytime you're thinking replacing html you're thinking transclusion
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[14:53:11] <zbzzn> I am trying to figure out if the user already edited some input, how can I know that?
[14:53:31] <Thorn> $dirty
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[14:53:38] <patrickr_> ftwordring: Can you show me how to do what I explained in the gist?? :-)
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[14:54:20] <ftwordring> nah I actually have to walk to the mechanic's real fast lol
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[14:55:49] <zbzzn> patrickr_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15296284/how-to-understand-the-transclude-of-directive-defination
[14:56:18] <zbzzn> Thorn, thanks, I think this is what I needed
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[14:59:08] <eden_lane> Hi folks ! I really don't want to ask for help and bother other people, but I can't solve this problem on my own for 4 days. Please, take a minute to look at this: http://plnkr.co/edit/cpXeMsZgPKcs0BEV0MLD?p=preview . When I'm setting text to CodeMirror inside the ng-hide directive, it doesn't change the text. All details in the plunker. Thank you for your attention !
[14:59:21] <Hounddog> :/ it seems it is trying to open now both states cause of the same url...
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[15:03:35] <zbzzn> eden_lane, your problem is that the update is hapening out of the digest loop. I don't know why and I can't research it now
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[15:03:42] <zbzzn> here is the lame solution: http://plnkr.co/edit/cpXeMsZgPKcs0BEV0MLD?p=preview
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[15:04:54] <eden_lane> zbzzn: can't find the diff
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[15:05:10] <zbzzn> $timeout(function(){
[15:05:11] <zbzzn> cm.setValue($scope.current.text);
[15:05:11] <zbzzn> },0);
[15:05:26] <zbzzn> line 47 of the js
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[15:06:02] <eden_lane> hm, maybe you didn't save it ?
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[15:06:23] <zbzzn> yeah, you are right (I am stupid): http://plnkr.co/edit/11oVWWiVzhOVScpy3kdh?p=preview
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[15:06:58] <eden_lane> yeah, it wokrs, thanks ! But the delay is very visible and it's bad :(
[15:07:21] <eden_lane> I've tried cm.refresh(), but it has the same lack
[15:07:44] <zbzzn> what delay?
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[15:08:05] <zbzzn> I don't see any delay in the plunk
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[15:08:16] <eden_lane> hm, wait a sec
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[15:08:51] <rd_> Hi guys!
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[15:09:16] <ratsupremacy> Ok so if I have an ng-repeat on TRs angularJS locks up my browser :S
[15:09:17] <rd_> Can anybody help me with understanding with this promise case
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[15:09:49] <rd_> I have function returned promise like
[15:09:51] <rd_> var getPromise = function() { return someAsyncFunc.then(function(result) { return result + 1;}); };
[15:10:04] <ratsupremacy> and just memory leaks everyyywhere
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[15:10:16] <rd_> so inside then i return new value
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[15:10:38] <eden_lane> well, delay exists but it's small and looks like it's less visible then cm.refresh(). Thank you zbzzn ! Can you suggest something else to my further investigation ?
[15:10:39] <ratsupremacy> ah found it, recursive template
[15:10:47] <rd_> and when i invoke this function getPromise.then(function(result) { // result });
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[15:11:07] <rd_> inside parenthesis i have changed result (result + 1) - not initial
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[15:11:21] <rd_> and i don't understand why
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[15:11:55] <zbzzn> eden_lane, as I saidm it seems that CodeMirror updates the text outside the digest loop asynchronously. My solution is to run the digest loop again after that update.
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[15:12:57] <zbzzn> eden_lane, but that will cause a delay. You should look into a way to either make it update synchronously or run a digest only on the CodeMiror HTML element.
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[15:13:08] <eden_lane> zbzzn: thank you so much
[15:13:14] <zbzzn> np
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[15:24:49] <ajai> Hi
[15:25:01] <ajai> I'm facing issue with select box in ie8
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[15:25:28] <drej> go on...
[15:25:39] <ajai> I have created a directive named "collapsiblePanel" with transclude
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[15:26:01] <ajai> but in ie8 the transcluded select box values are not preserved....any solution
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[15:27:58] <drej> oh dude, dont msg me
[15:28:00] <drej> that's not cool
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[15:28:13] <drej> ajai i dont know what the issue is, but dont /msg people without asking
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[15:30:12] <ajai> ok drej....
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[15:31:32] <ajai> can any one help me on an issue with angularjs...plz
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[15:34:59] <ajai> can any one help me on an issue with angularjs...plz
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[15:55:50] <patrickr_> How can I put a directive attribute on a directive element and get the content of the attribute in the transclusion of the element?
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[16:11:06] <masscrx> hi
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[16:11:26] <masscrx> I need some explanatio about http://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/ what is for ?
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[16:12:17] <Anticom> hi all
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[16:13:04] <accelerate> masscrx: read the section "CSS" on the page you linked.
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[16:13:18] <accelerate> I don't know if that's the only reason, but it seems like a part of the reason.
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[16:13:31] <Anticom> I'm still fairly new to AngularJS. I was wondering, how to manage singletons myself in angular. I'm using angular-pouch and i want to write my own service, that takes a couchDB-uri and resolves it to a pouchDB database name. Now i want to be able to create an instance, if there isn't one already and return that instance if it exists
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[16:14:21] <masscrx> If AngularJS is a JS framework/library, so AngularJS-UI is next fw/lib for Angluar?
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[16:14:47] <masscrx> like a Javascript -> jQuery -> Coffescript
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[16:15:40] <accelerate> masscrx: the page you linked is Angular's version of Bootstrap, which is different from AngularUI
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[16:17:32] <masscrx> ok so what is the purpose of AngularUI ?
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[16:24:57] <uf6667> how do I redirect to signin.html as long as the user/pass is invalid and redirect to dashboard.html when it is?
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[16:28:27] <ansu> masscrx, angular ui is just a set of directives/services to help you build common ui elements... and ui-bootstrap offers the elements you have in bootstrap but as native angular directives, without dependency on bootstrap/jquery
[16:28:41] <bluesm> Does angular is slow at the beginnign since it have to parse every markup to find angular marks ?
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[16:31:00] <m4strmind> bluesm, i think the slowness in angular is more related to large data sets as it monitors the data for changes and the more things you're monitoring, the more work angular has to do ALL the time
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[16:39:59] <Sna4x8> cythrawll: You responded to me yesterday right after I left work! Are you sure that sibling directive order is defined? I can't find any documentation on it.
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[16:40:24] <cythrawll> Sna4x8, it's inferred as part of the DOM spec I'm guessing.
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[16:40:35] <cythrawll> because DOM siblings have a defined order
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[16:44:35] <Sna4x8> cythrawll: Yeah, it sure seems to work that way (and is intuitive). Looking at the the ngMessage directive it's strange that code is included to figure out the index, though: https://code.angularjs.org/1.3.0-beta.8/angular-messages.js
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[16:45:05] <Sna4x8> Look at the very last for loop. It finds the index of the message.
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[16:50:05] <cythrawll> Sna4x8, yeah I see what you mean.
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[16:51:25] <cctom> hey guys, I was wondering if I can enable the routeprovider only on one specific page (and controller) in my webapp
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[16:53:56] <Sna4x8> cythrawll: Well, it's pretty easy to figure out the order by traversing the siblings in my directive. What do you think, should I manually figure out the order just to play it safe?
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[16:54:56] <AngularUI> [bootstrap] JasperHorn opened pull request #2501: Prevent collisions by using $apply over $digest (master...master) http://git.io/6giwNg
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[16:54:59] <cythrawll> Sna4x8, well you have to think about when model changes occur, it's going to call the link function, i'm not sure it those get called in any certain order after the initial rendering.
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[16:56:41] <Sna4x8> Yeah, it's the link function's execution order that I'm concerned with in this case.
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[16:59:02] <Sna4x8> cythrawll: Thanks for your help.
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[16:59:23] <cythrawll> Sna4x8, no problem, I just felt like I was a sounding board though.
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[17:32:28] <saucey> do any of you guys use laravel and angular?
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[17:32:41] <saucey> and if so how do you manage your views?
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[18:05:19] <FrancisMengx> hey guys
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[18:06:27] <guilbep> Hey FrancisMengxw
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[18:08:48] <masscrx> I use leafletjs in my project, and in index.html I have included script with all stuff for map
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[18:09:00] <masscrx> can I use it in normal way in partial with angularjs ?
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[18:10:02] <cthrax> masscrx, probably, but you might need a directive to get access to the element. I've never used leafletjs, but I have used jquery plugins and the like in my angular app
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[18:11:15] <cthrax> if you have any bindings in your popups or anything like that, you also will need to look at how leafletjs handles the dom, you might have to update things manually on binding changes
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[18:15:23] <sayanz> hi
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[18:18:20] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/1xBYOA
[18:18:20] <ngbot> angular.js/master 606db3c Chad Smith: Updating the provider documentation...
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[18:20:19] <guy> What's the latest out there Android end-to-end guide
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[18:21:03] <guy> Preferably, one thats compatible with 1.3.0
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[18:21:12] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross force-pushed master from 606db3c to 88765d5: http://git.io/eb2NaA
[18:21:12] <ngbot> angular.js/master 88765d5 Chad Smith: docs(guide): remove redundancy in providers guide...
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[18:47:43] <nvlcijdf> hey I use jquery to add attributes to an element that has an ng-repeat
[18:48:02] <nvlcijdf> and on ie the jquery ids on the elements repeated are all the same
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[18:48:17] <nvlcijdf> so when for example i mouseenter one of them, I get events from all
[18:48:23] <nvlcijdf> how to fix this?
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[18:52:49] <guy> That's jQuery question, nvlcijdf
[18:53:00] <guy> By the sound of it, anyway
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[18:56:01] <nvlcijdf> guy, jquery doesnt know about ng-repeat
[18:56:21] <nvlcijdf> jquery is working fine because it is only working on one item
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[18:56:28] <guy> I don't quite get what ng-repeat has to do with the way you bind jQuery
[18:56:30] <bd> you are probably using jquery wrong
[18:56:32] <nvlcijdf> that item is converted later by angular into many by ng-repeat
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[18:56:40] <nvlcijdf> and it copies the jquery id to each item
[18:56:40] <bd> or, in the wrong way with angular, i should say
[18:56:54] <guy> nvlcijdf: then it shouldn't have ID attribute at all, if it is used in ng-repeat
[18:57:03] <nvlcijdf> its not an id attribute
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[18:57:07] <wafflejock_> hey everybody
[18:57:10] <nvlcijdf> its a jqeury session attribute
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[18:57:31] <guy> nvlcijdf: I see what you mean.
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[18:58:17] <guy> Hm. And you are using "live" binding, not static?
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[18:59:01] <guy> Just in case, see http://api.jquery.com/on/ section "Direct and delegated events"
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[18:59:38] <nvlcijdf> yes guy dynamic binding
[18:59:47] <guy> Of course, without knowing the code, this is a shot into the dark
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[18:59:58] <guy> Mind reproducing in the jsbin?
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[19:01:03] <nvlcijdf> guy I've been trying but seeing as pretty much none of these online editors support ie8 its kinda moot
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[19:01:10] <BahamutWC|Work> nvlcijdf: it sounds like you are mixing jquery and angular in bad ways
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[19:01:47] <guy> Sounds like jQuery is attaching to that DOM object, e.g. because you assign .data() to it. Which would not work with Angular
[19:01:57] <nvlcijdf> what is the proper way of dynamically attaching the same event handler to all elements in a ng-repeat
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[19:02:03] <BahamutWC|Work> if you want a particular behavior, you should scope it to a particular instance with a custom directive
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[19:02:25] <guy> nvlcijdf: You shouldn't use jQuery to attach the event, simple as that.
[19:02:27] <BahamutWC|Work> so you could have <div ng-repeat=“item in items” my-directive></div> for example
[19:02:34] <guy> Yes, that.
[19:02:42] <BahamutWC|Work> where myDirective is a directive that binds the listener of interest
[19:02:46] <nvlcijdf> I know
[19:02:52] <nvlcijdf> the thing is its not my code im looking at
[19:02:57] <BahamutWC|Work> ng-repeat would have a higher priority so it would run before your directive, allowing you to properly bind the listener
[19:02:58] <nvlcijdf> and i dont want to modify a bunch of it
[19:03:15] <BobbieBarker> jquery is the devil put on your big boy pants and quit using it
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[19:03:24] <nvlcijdf> lol?
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[19:03:30] <BobbieBarker> lol
[19:03:31] <nvlcijdf> angularjs wouldnt work without jquery
[19:03:36] <BahamutWC|Work> jquery is fine, but if you’re using angular, you should be doing it this way
[19:03:55] <nvlcijdf> angular uses jquery to do most of its dom stuff anyway
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[19:04:59] <BobbieBarker> obv angular has jqlite in it
[19:05:05] <guy> nvlcijdf: I cannot see another way of achieving what you are trying without putting some logic into angular module that's responsible for the items of yours that would dereferrence and setup binding again for jQuery each time list is changed
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[19:05:19] <nvlcijdf> guy the delegated events might work
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[19:06:39] <snurfery> sup yall
[19:06:44] <snapwich> Angular and jQuery have to play together in a very specific way due to order of compilations and linking etc and the angular team are careful to make things interact correctly when using jQuery. But since that interaction is so delicate it's probably best you don't attempt to do the same
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[19:07:58] <nvlcijdf> the problem is that the code im looking at is written in an utterly retarded way and im trying to modify as least as possible
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[19:08:20] <snapwich> a delegated event would work if you're just trying to add events to items in ng-repeat
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[19:08:34] <snapwich> just make sure you apply
[19:08:46] <nvlcijdf> snapwich: im gona try it
[19:09:13] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: if it's that stupid just rewrite it
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[19:09:29] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: don't waste your time and future devs time maintaining a poor setup
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[19:09:47] <BahamutWC|Work> this is something that is worth the overhaul from what you’re describing
[19:09:54] <nvlcijdf> wafflejock_: its a lot of code lol
[19:10:01] <wafflejock_> yeah I just had to do that too
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[19:10:12] <wafflejock_> I replaced two files a directive and it's evil jQuery friend
[19:10:16] <wafflejock_> they had to be eliminated
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[19:10:19] <nvlcijdf> well ok then, guess it has to be done
[19:10:22] <snapwich> you could do a delegated ng-click though couldn't you? just check the target
[19:10:37] <snapwich> and put the ng-click on a parent
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[19:11:41] <nvlcijdf> snapwich: im not sure how to delegate to only one element if they are all the same...
[19:12:13] <nvlcijdf> maybe i should use a custom attribute to differentiate them lol
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[19:12:31] <snapwich> you could do taht, since the event would past the target element
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[19:13:51] <snapwich> nvlcijdf: that's what this person did here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13965627/angular-ng-click-event-delegation
[19:13:59] <snapwich> attached the index of an attr
[19:14:14] <snapwich> *to an attr
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[19:17:14] <nvlcijdf> snapwich: it seems like they are just using 'il' as the selector :S
[19:17:20] <nvlcijdf> 'li'*
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[19:18:17] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: yeah the code I had to replace was a few hundred lines but other devs on the project had just been litterring in $timeouts to give the view "enough" time for the Angular to update the view and then running a bunch of jQuery to modify the DOM which results in tons of bugs, your best off figuring out the appropriate data model/structure to drive the view and using directives directly on the elements they manipulate
[19:18:52] <nvlcijdf> yeah
[19:19:15] <nvlcijdf> reactjs so much better than angular lol
[19:20:11] <snapwich> nvlcijdf: they are attaching the index to each element inside the ng-repeat. then in the click handler on the parent they are checking that index of the target element to dispatch the appropriate event handler
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[19:20:51] <snapwich> same thing as regular event delegation except they are dispatching based on the ng-repeat index rather than the element tag name
[19:21:00] <snapwich> or class name, or something else
[19:21:17] <nvlcijdf> ah i see
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[19:22:58] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: I don't see the problem I encountered as an issue with Angular itself (or jQuery) just how people were trying to mix it with jQuery was a mess, there is a right way to do it, that said no experience with ReactJS on the job so not sure how it compares
[19:22:59] <snapwich> wafflejock_: I hate that. I don't know what goes through a devs head when they think $timeouts will solve all their problems. have they never heard the term "race condition" before?
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[19:23:27] <wafflejock_> snapwich: yeah makes me a bit insane, like how you can you not know that waiting 800 ms is a bad sign
[19:23:37] <jaawerth> let alone the fact that $timout forces a digest so doing it all the time will.. not be great for performance
[19:23:41] <wafflejock_> if that's the fix you have deeper problems
[19:23:48] <snapwich> oh, this code breaks if only wait 50ms. better make it 100ms. haha
[19:23:58] <wafflejock_> ya
[19:24:03] <snapwich> because network latency is always determinant of course
[19:24:06] <wafflejock_> ridiculousness
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[19:24:21] <nvlcijdf> well sometimes you need timeout and digest tbh
[19:24:30] <jaawerth> and timeout tricks like that usually happen when you've trapped yourself in promise/callback hell, so you're doing it wrong anyway
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[19:24:41] <nvlcijdf> if you need a custom service like xdomain on ie instead of http
[19:24:42] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: yeah in some cases but it's rare usually indicates some other problems
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[19:24:56] <jaawerth> yeah, but if you're using $timeout all over the places, that's probably too many digests
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[19:25:26] <nvlcijdf> u think the main problem is that angular has a lot of different capabilities and shitty docs
[19:25:32] <nvlcijdf> i*
[19:25:45] <nvlcijdf> its too complex and not very elegant
[19:26:09] <jaawerth> It doesn't hold your hand and it expects you to have a firm understanding of the fundamental behaviors of javascript
[19:26:14] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: eh they just don't force you into one way or another, once you find your rhythm with it and have some best practices things go smooth
[19:26:16] <jaawerth> I think the problem is a lot of devs don't have those fundamentals
[19:26:23] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: agree
[19:26:27] <nvlcijdf> directives already encapsulate controllers so why not make everything a directive
[19:26:33] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: you can
[19:26:38] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: one guy told us we all should
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[19:26:44] <nvlcijdf> yeah
[19:26:46] <jaawerth> hahaha that guy was funny
[19:26:46] <nvlcijdf> my point is
[19:26:50] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: I disagree but if you like that go ahead
[19:26:53] <jaawerth> "Not doing that is an anti-pattern!"
[19:26:57] <wafflejock_> haha yeah
[19:27:12] <nvlcijdf> all of these extra specifications of more general 'api' are added complexity
[19:27:29] <nvlcijdf> in reactjs everything is a directive pretty much
[19:27:40] <nvlcijdf> leads to better organization and cleaner code imo
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[19:27:55] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: might be true
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[19:28:25] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: if you follow all the major points here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhfUv0spHCY and have some coding standards though it's pretty easy to see what kind of structure you're going to want to have in a project
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[19:29:32] <axelhzf> why do you want to make everything a directive?
[19:29:55] <jaawerth> IIRC reactjs is more specifically a UI library, it's a different animal from angular
[19:29:56] <axelhzf> there is a lot of cases where you don't need to modify the dom directly
[19:30:11] <jaawerth> angularjs is about everything being data-driven
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[19:31:17] <nvlcijdf> the only purpose of angularjs was the directives initially
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[19:31:35] <nvlcijdf> other libraries were superior to angular in everything else
[19:31:44] <nvlcijdf> and reactjs is superior for directives now
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[19:32:07] <nvlcijdf> most people already use other libraries for stuff that angular is supposed to do
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[19:32:13] <nvlcijdf> like routing and rest api
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[19:32:27] <jaawerth> uh, those things aren't what angular is supposed to do
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[19:32:30] <jaawerth> I think you're missing the point
[19:32:38] <nvlcijdf> whats the point then?
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[19:32:38] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/4XJEKw
[19:32:39] <ngbot> angular.js/master d0de0ce Karl Yang: docs(tutorial): remove index.html from app url
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[19:32:43] <jaawerth> that's why the angular divs split off the ng-route and ng-resource models
[19:32:48] <jaawerth> devs*
[19:32:50] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: angular does data binding, gives you an event system, lets you create custom components and add behavior using directives
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[19:33:05] <nvlcijdf> wafflejock_: that is all part of directives
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[19:33:08] <nvlcijdf> which is what i said
[19:33:09] <jaawerth> directives are huge but in my opinion the components thing is the killer
[19:33:09] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: they split everything in 1.2 because like you said third party libraries filled the gaps
[19:33:34] <nvlcijdf> what else does angular do well other than directives?
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[19:33:49] <Foxandxss> nvlcijdf: why use angular instead of react then?
[19:33:50] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: you said directives, not data binding, not AJAX or REST service communication
[19:33:57] <nvlcijdf> Foxandxss: i have too in this case
[19:34:08] <juanlas> so how do people do loading a resource, then rendering the view when that resource is ready
[19:34:09] <nvlcijdf> directives encapsulated data binding
[19:34:14] <jaawerth> uh, modules, services, two-way data-binding, separation of scope, scope inheritance
[19:34:18] <Foxandxss> I only see you trolling
[19:34:21] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: no directives make use of databinding
[19:34:23] <nvlcijdf> modules suck in angular
[19:34:25] <Foxandxss> I don't like trolling
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[19:34:28] <jaawerth> lol
[19:34:29] <wafflejock_> hah
[19:34:30] <jaawerth> okay yeah I'm done
[19:34:34] <nvlcijdf> dude
[19:34:42] <Foxandxss> so nvlcijdf stop trolling
[19:34:43] <nvlcijdf> angular modules doesnt even make separate namespaces
[19:34:45] <Foxandxss> thank you
[19:34:59] <jaawerth> wut
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[19:35:05] <nvlcijdf> maybe you should go program in some other technologies and see how much angular actually sucks in comparison
[19:35:12] <Foxandxss> ais
[19:35:12] <nvlcijdf> instead of just thinking angular is god lol
[19:35:20] <wafflejock_> nvlcijdf: no one is stopping you from using other frameworks or libraries, not even the angular team hence the division of the parts
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[19:35:23] <jaawerth> you're just saying things without qualifying them
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[19:35:34] <jaawerth> heh
[19:35:46] <Foxandxss> warned him
[19:35:47] <cacts|works> obvious troll is obvious
[19:35:55] <juanlas> so if i want to load a blog post resource, but don’t want to render the view (i.e. buttons, headers, etc.) until the resource is loaded in the controller - what should i do
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[19:36:11] <cacts|works> look at ng-cloak juanlas
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[19:36:25] <Foxandxss> daily*
[19:36:35] <wafflejock_> eh might have been a little quick but the ban hammer was gonna drop sooner or later I think :P
[19:36:44] <Foxandxss> I just came
[19:36:46] <jaawerth> eh, could be oldschool trolling, but there's also a... certain class of technology culture warrior who likes to proclaim something as best and then tell everyone else why they're wrong
[19:36:54] <Foxandxss> I Saw a lot of trolling, then more trolling, and more trolling
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[19:37:10] <jaawerth> which honestly I don't mind arguing with, but hand-waving is just obnoxious
[19:37:21] <juanlas> yea i was looking at ngCloak, but couldnt get it working, but I guess i didnt try too hard - let me take another look, thanks
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[19:37:53] <jaawerth> "why don't you learn programming lololol"
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[19:40:24] <jaawerth> wafflejock_: So, I'm trying to scope out the process of building a... have you ever heard of tableau?
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[19:40:50] <jaawerth> (I guess that comment's for anyone interested)
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[19:41:05] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: nope haven't heard of it
[19:41:21] <snurfery> aww man I missed that whole banhammer action
[19:41:27] <snurfery> issok, I scrolled up
[19:41:28] <jaawerth> anyway, it's a tool for building out pretty data visualization reports and such. They have a whole desktop software for it and then a server you can install to run it. It's super expensive and I'm not that impressed
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[19:42:12] <jaawerth> I work for a research company - sort of market research but really it's a bunch of stuff. I'm trying to push us into the direction of upgrading from doc/paper reports with excel graphs into the modern era
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[19:43:09] <jaawerth> So I'm trying to do data visualization stuff, but since we can't custom-program every single little app/widget/e-report we make, really I need to build publishing tools if I want to do it myself instead of using tableau or whatever
[19:43:09] <dman777_alter> what does ng-load do?
[19:43:12] <juanlas> what’s modern era?
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[19:43:25] <juanlas> reporting app in angular == modern era?
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[19:44:11] <jaawerth> well, basically instead of just delivering our graphs and things, delivering an interactive, hosted report that allows people to deep dive, vary the parameters, all the fancy data visualization stuff you can do - only hooked into the expertise of our researchers
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[19:45:12] <jaawerth> IE giving us a SaaS offering either instead of or addition to our standard business model
[19:45:14] <juanlas> but the question is will developing a custom software system have business value
[19:45:20] <jaawerth> exactly
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[19:46:09] <jaawerth> I'm trying to figure out a balance between building a whole software suite from the ground up and building a subset of what tableau can do - like, figuring out what sort of patterns we see on a regular basis, and what we can churn out cookie-cutter style with minimal ongoing custom development
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[19:46:38] <juanlas> i don’t know your reporting process too much, but lets say you build out a fancy angular app, and then 6 months later requirements change and everyone is back to using excel again, well that would suck
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[19:46:50] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: agree it doesn't seem that complex really
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[19:47:03] <wafflejock_> juanlas: if everyone stays on excel spreadsheets that would also suck
[19:47:20] <juanlas> you can do some nice scripting in excel already
[19:47:23] <juanlas> with python even
[19:47:30] <jaawerth> so what I'm thinking is: build up the various data widgets as directives and things, and the various report types as templates, use ui-router to hook everything together
[19:47:43] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: integration steps to get SalesForce/Google data integrated could be a bit of pain
[19:47:55] <jaawerth> well, we use a combination of excel and R for the actual calculations
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[19:48:21] <jaawerth> automating the calculations is a phase 2 step, I'm interested in the delivery
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[19:48:50] <jaawerth> (but for the record, I'm thinking either automating R, which can be done but I don't think it has a RESTful interface yet) or trying it out with Sage, which is python-based and could be easily hooked into a RESTful python server
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[19:48:52] <juanlas> maybe automating calculations should be step 1, maybe it has more value?
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[19:49:32] <jaawerth> well, the value of automating calculations is saving our quant teams' time. I'm exploring that concept sort of in parallel, so maybe phase 2 isn't the right word. Still, that only helps us save time and money internally
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[19:49:56] <MikeKi> Hi guys. New to Angular and have the learned the basics through various sample applictions, tutorials etc. However, there is very little written about the best patterns and practices to use when building a real application. Do any of you know of any good examples that are more complex?
[19:50:06] <wafflejock_> juanlas: I don't have anything against excel itself the problem is it creates a workflow where individuals are passing around excel files because if two people are editing at the same time from a shared resource you have problems
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[19:50:12] <jaawerth> but there are a million data visualization/reporting/whatever platforms out there right now, but none of them are linked into a backend of industry experts who can actually do analysis for you
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[19:50:41] <snurfery> MikeKi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhfUv0spHCY
[19:50:46] <snurfery> that's a good one ^^
[19:50:50] <juanlas> is there no synchronized excel sheet editing now? does office 360 offer that?
[19:50:52] <wafflejock_> quick on the trigger snapwich
[19:50:56] <wafflejock_> snurfery: ^
[19:50:59] <snurfery> ;)
[19:51:09] <snurfery> pretty sure I got that link from you or robdubya
[19:51:10] <jaawerth> excel isn't the problem internally, I'm trying to give us an enhanced product offering for our customers
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[19:51:20] <jaawerth> like I said, for the hard math we use R way more than excel
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[19:51:54] <cspra85> is there anybody that's figured out a good set-up to use protractor alongside angular-mocks
[19:52:00] <jaawerth> So anyway, I'm trying to think how I would make the publishing tool for leveraging my directives, templates, etc for building the custom report with my building blocks, but still making it a single page app.
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[19:52:38] <jaawerth> the two ways I can think of are: have the main template just be a filler, and you pull from the database to see which actual templates you load, which in turn pull to figure out which directive widgets you load, etc. This would work, but it's potentially slow
[19:52:44] <MikeKi> Thanks snurfery. Watching now. :)
[19:52:46] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: yeah I mean it seems to me like you just need to know the data type of some data element and you can build a directive that allows you to adjust filters for that type of data
[19:52:58] <cythrawll> jaawerth, Wolfram Cloud data platform does that :)
[19:53:02] <jaawerth> wafflejock_: right. not so hard - angular and d3 will do the job there
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[19:53:26] <wafflejock_> yeah Wolfram is pretty awesome all around
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[19:53:49] <jaawerth> I love what Wolfram does, but most of the products we've looked at so far are 1) very expensive and 2) would still require some measure of custom dev
[19:53:51] <cythrawll> doesn't use angular.js
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[19:54:19] <cythrawll> jaawerth, they're not THAT expensive
[19:54:26] <wafflejock_> yeah not sure about integration but that guy and his people have made some wild software
[19:54:27] <cythrawll> not at the cost of developer salary
[19:54:51] <jaawerth> well that's exactly what we're evaluating
[19:54:53] <cythrawll> what custom dev do you think it needs?
[19:55:05] <cythrawll> wafflejock_, yeah used to work for them.
[19:55:15] <jaawerth> cythrawll: Don't get me wrong, I'm totally going to take your suggestion and take a harder look at Wolfram ;-)
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[19:55:37] <wafflejock_> cythrawll: cool, good company?
[19:55:46] <jaawerth> but that's what we're trying to weigh: the various products, how much they cost, how much dev overhead they'll save, and how well they'll accomplish what we're trying to do vs. not paying for any software and developing it ourselves
[19:55:53] <dman777_alter> anyone use protractor? I see that it attaches angular.js properties to window.performance. Is there any documentation to where I can read what each property means exactly?
[19:55:57] <jaawerth> cythrawll: neat, I know a sysadmin there
[19:56:13] <dman777_alter> for instance, http://bpaste.net/show/Wwp1pEA2uWLpi4D5VmvP/
[19:56:13] <jaawerth> through an internet community I've been on awhile, so I don't know his real name, heh
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[19:56:24] <cythrawll> wafflejock_, no :p
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[19:57:00] <wafflejock_> cythrawll: ah bummer well they make cool software
[19:57:11] <jaawerth> cyrusdavid: can you elaborate a bit on "wolfram cloud does that?" I thought it was more of a data-based cloud programming platform..
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[19:57:24] <cythrawll> jaawerth, yeah look at their data science platform. it just came out like a monthish so ago?
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[19:57:44] <jaawerth> "coming soon"
[19:57:45] <cythrawll> wafflejock_, yeah but they go through developers super quick, burn em out so bad....
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[19:58:19] <jaawerth> they do brilliant work so I can imagine they push people hard
[19:58:27] <wafflejock_> cythrawll: yeah I could imagine it's lots of math heavy work, not sure how I long I could do that makes me appreciate having to do stupid CSS sometimes :)
[19:58:32] <jaawerth> also sometimes it's hard as a computer/programming dude working with brilliant math dudes
[19:58:38] <jaawerth> (/dudettes)
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[19:59:02] <cythrawll> jaawerth, yeah I think that's the cloud support. I worked on that a little bit so it's not far behind...
[19:59:13] <cythrawll> jaawerth, i imagine that M10 supports it though, just not the cloud yet
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[19:59:46] <jaawerth> oh. I think we'd prefer non-cloud anyway, so that's cool
[19:59:50] <pskrz> jaawerth: you seemed concerned about it, but i'm pretty sure dude is gender neutral
[20:00:01] <jaawerth> haha that was an afterthought ;-)
[20:00:10] <jaawerth> cythrawll: hmm nope http://www.wolfram.com/data-science-platform/?source=nav
[20:00:29] <Foxandxss> I think that dudettes is also correct
[20:00:37] <jaawerth> it is
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[20:00:59] <wafflejock_> agree I think of a dude as a guy personally dudette is a fair clairification
[20:01:03] <jaawerth> anyway, the thought experiment I'm getting at is: going about building a web-based publishing platform for building custom single page apps
[20:01:52] <pskrz> a cms?
[20:01:58] <jaawerth> kinda?
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[20:02:21] <wafflejock_> yeah it's basically a CMS I think
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[20:02:26] <snurfery> interesting
[20:02:34] <snurfery> also: sexy
[20:02:38] <wafflejock_> customizing dashboards for a particular user or something
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[20:02:59] <jaawerth> yeah. or a particular app configuration or a particular.. data report
[20:03:09] <sonicparke> so...is it better to loop through your json data to restructure it if needed in the factory/service or in the controller?
[20:03:12] <jaawerth> but basically making it so people can use the building blocks I make without being programmers themselves
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[20:03:35] <jaawerth> sonicparke: depends on the situation
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[20:03:44] <wafflejock_> right... I did a similar thing but haven't really fleshed out the custom reporting side just have some static reports, but the data questions/answers are all dynamic
[20:03:49] <jaawerth> sonicparke: in general, it's best to do any heavy data logic in your factories/services
[20:03:50] <sonicparke> ugh... sonicparke = bradmc. I can't figure out how to make it display both. Had to register my nick
[20:03:54] <sonicparke> ok
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[20:04:32] <sonicparke> jaawerth: yeah, I'm calling a webapi and jsut getting the contents of the DB table back as an object for each row, then I need to reorganize it
[20:04:44] <jaawerth> wafflejock_: Yeah. So I'm thinking - you could pre-write all of your templates, directives, services etc as components that would be your.. "angularpress plugins" (heh). Design the layout by loading and placing widgets and storing the configuration stuff in the database
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[20:05:03] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: yup
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[20:05:20] <jaawerth> but then when you load the app, you have to first load the data that tells you which main templates/directives to load, and TEN render them all in angular layer by layer
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[20:05:30] <kirfu|work> Anyone ever combined gigya with angular?
[20:05:30] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: I did mine where I store the "data type" that will be associated with a "question" in the database and that drives the display for entering possible answers
[20:05:38] <jaawerth> could be slow, and you would probably need to implement lazy loading. Still, this is the approach I"m planning for our intranet portal
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[20:06:12] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: I just load all the directives I need up front but have the config for what's shown stored in the DB basically
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[20:06:17] <jaawerth> the alternative is: pre-render the basic layout that chooses your directives and things using a server-side template system, and when you hit "publish" it writes the rendered pages to a static file
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[20:06:50] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: think it depends on if you want updated data
[20:06:53] <jaawerth> I THINK this makes more sense if you're publishing individual apps that have no relation to one another (and are used by totally different clients)
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[20:07:18] <jaawerth> well wafflejock_, I mean pre-render the actual layout that contains the <my-directive> stuff
[20:07:29] <jaawerth> the result should still be a standard angular single page app
[20:07:29] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: ah gotcha
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[20:07:46] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: yeah I just built it "on the fly"
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[20:08:04] <jaawerth> yeah. And that's fine, but I'm trying to limit how much custom dev this would require on a per-project basis
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[20:08:16] <jaawerth> I want to make the tinker toys and let non-coders play with them
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[20:10:24] <jaawerth> and because the number of possible arrangements is going to be huge, I'd need to dynamically load the layouts and things from the database - including every directive I use - which kind of defeats the poitn of a single page app - OR do some sort of prerendering. But I'm worried about what kinda problems that might cause
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[20:13:01] <wafflejock_> jaawerth: yeah dynamic layouts isn't something I dealt with
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[20:13:56] <icfantv> i'm running in to an issue where it appears that angular is "preprocessing my J/S" - here's a plunker in plain J/S where it's working: http://plnkr.co/edit/EXR5KzRgnjVR39oHHCmq - the problem is that in angular, the call to getSomeValue().func does not execute func().
[20:14:35] <icfantv> i.e., angular has already evaluated the function and executed it. this is in a factory.
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[20:15:01] <jaawerth> icfantv: why are you using onclick instead of ng-click?
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[20:15:17] <icfantv> plain J/S
[20:15:26] <jaawerth> oh sorry, missed that
[20:15:32] <icfantv> jaawerth: no worries
[20:15:52] <icfantv> the button was only a means by which to force execution of the J/S
[20:15:55] <jaawerth> do you have a plunkr with the angular version?
[20:15:58] <pskrz> upgrading to protractor 1.0.0 from <1.0 version, I have specs breaking that weren't before, does anyone know if there were breaking changes?
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[20:16:02] <icfantv> ahhhh, no, not yet
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[20:16:05] <jaawerth> it's hard for us to debug without seeing the code ;-)
[20:16:06] <icfantv> that's gonna take a while
[20:16:07] <icfantv> yea
[20:16:10] <icfantv> i figured
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[20:18:05] <jaawerth> icfantv: that said, if you're doing return { func: func() } in a factory, that's going to execute func() immediately and store the return value in func. If you're using an angular factory, you'd want to do return { func: func } - then you'll be able to execute it with SomeFactory.func();
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[20:18:32] <kirfu|work> Hey so I have a 3rd party library that loads in async, how can I use it in an angular app?
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[20:19:14] <jaawerth> kirfu|work: you mean the library code itself comes in asynchronously?
[20:19:19] <kirfu|work> yes
[20:19:26] <kirfu|work> script src="http://cdn.gigya.com/JS/socialize.js?apikey=2_Y82PzwJ_chSFImHXaIDJClnLyJzmk-VFOavSsaNTzl6m901s_NNxRAS0xJ3bd3_N"
[20:19:29] <kirfu|work> like that ^
[20:19:36] <icfantv> jaawerth: aaaaaaah. that makes sense. but why doesn't it execute it in plain J/S?
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[20:19:45] <icfantv> is this just a function of factories?
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[20:20:23] <linagee> any "angular gets out of beta" date yet?
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[20:21:31] <jaawerth> icfantv: well.. think of it this way. the pure JS is doing the same thing here - getSomeValue is returning the executed func()
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[20:21:37] <snurfery> 1.2.x isn't beta
[20:21:49] <jaawerth> kirfu|work: I'd wrap it in a promise
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[20:22:28] <kirfu|work> But how do I actually load it?
[20:22:36] <marc_v92> Hey friends, pretty new to Angular, so please bear with me, lol. Currently working on a system that uses Sails.js for the backend, with Angular as the frontend. I’m having a bit of difficulty wrapping my head around how the two will work together. Am I basically just using the Sails backend to define my models and interact with the database, while Angular handles the views and the rest of the front-end? Or is there a better way?
[20:22:40] <kirfu|work> $http.get() ?
[20:22:46] <kirfu|work> $http.jsonp()?
[20:22:51] <kirfu|work> something like that?
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[20:23:01] <icfantv> jaawerth: but it doesn't get executed at page load time like in angular
[20:23:17] <icfantv> jaawerth; or i;d be seeing the console.log/div modification
[20:23:22] <jaawerth> kirfu|work: I think I have a bookmark on this, one sec and I'll see if I can find it
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[20:23:38] <snurfery> marc_v92: sounds about right. you'll interact with sails using rest calls that create/retrieve/update/delete the stuff in your db
[20:23:39] <jaawerth> icfantv: because factories by definition execute immediately and their return value is stored as a singleton
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[20:24:07] <icfantv> Ahhhhhhhhh
[20:24:11] <icfantv> because it's a factory
[20:24:25] <jaawerth> which is awesome because that allows a "single source of truth" for your app data - it's the REAL model (other than the server)
[20:24:33] <Aswebb> Hello guys, Im currently displaying notifications like {{notifications.length}} where notifications is an array of notification objet. Is there a way to tell angular to display {{notifications.length where notification.isChecked = true } ?
[20:24:45] <jaawerth> so if you want a factory function, it has to return the funciton unexecuted
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[20:24:56] <jaawerth> this is also useful for currying functions
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[20:25:24] <icfantv> aswebb: show as in ng-show?
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[20:25:38] <snurfery> I think he means filter it first, then show the length
[20:25:44] <Aswebb> exactly snurfery
[20:25:50] <marc_v92> snurfery: http://dpaste.com/3M873H6 — This is currently my controllers.js file. Am I approaching it correctly?
[20:26:17] <BahamutWC|Work> hmm…has anyone ever seen with ng-pattern where the pattern would get matched in an input and pass validation, but when characters are deleted to where the pattern isn’t matched, ngModel still thinks it’s valid?
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[20:26:47] <jaawerth> kirfu|work: So.. I'm trying to parse that code you sent me. Is it asynchronously loading its own code, or..?
[20:26:49] <icfantv> aswebb: is this like a row count for a grid?
[20:27:12] <Aswebb> icfantv: Its exactly like facebook's notification system
[20:27:14] <icfantv> and you're doing an ng-repeat
[20:27:27] <snurfery> marc_v92: doesn't look bad to me, does it work?
[20:27:33] <kirfu|work> jaawerth: Well actually I guess it doesn't load it's code async lol :)
[20:27:39] <snurfery> marc_v92: actually nm
[20:27:41] <Aswebb> icfantv: You see the number of "non" viewed notifications
[20:28:01] <snurfery> marc_v92: you should be injecting '$scope' along with $http
[20:28:04] <kirfu|work> So I guess I could just include it above my angular.js and just use it since it will be in my global scope. Is that correct?
[20:28:05] <icfantv> aswebb: here's what we do - <tr data-ng-repeat="qualifier in sortedAndFilteredQualifiers = (qualifiers | orderBy:predicate:reverse | filter:search:strict)">
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[20:28:40] <icfantv> aswebb: we assign the result of the filters to a variable and then can use {{ sortedAndFilteredQualifiers.length }}
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[20:28:44] <marc_v92> snurfery: Okay, sounds good. Now, Sails has its own routing engine built-in. Should I basically just ignore that and use Angular’s routing mechanism?
[20:28:48] <Aswebb> icfantv: well I don't need a ng-repeat in my condition.
[20:28:51] <Aswebb> icfantv: Ah I see
[20:29:01] <snurfery> marc_v92: and instead of doing 'var page = this; page.alertData = data' you should just store the data on $scope.alertData or something similar
[20:29:08] <icfantv> aswebb: so you can do the same thing
[20:29:13] <snurfery> use the $scope, luke
[20:29:15] <snurfery> =)
[20:29:21] <marc_v92> snurfery: Alright, I will make that change. :)
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[20:29:23] <Aswebb> icfantv: Should I do something like {{notifications.length | filter: someCustomFilter }} ?
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[20:30:00] <icfantv> aswebb: i don't know exactly. i'm just starting angular
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[20:30:12] <Aswebb> icfantv: Ah ok no problem, thanks for ur support then :)
[20:30:30] <snurfery> marc_v92: I can't speak to dealing with sails' routing vs angular's. I think sails has its own urls that will be used to retrieve data from the backend... angular wants to render its templates and do all sorts of stuff on the frontend, so you'll likely have to deal with both
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[20:30:45] <jaawerth> kirfu|work: here's how I do this when I want to wrap the external library in a service so it won't pollute my namespace: (search for 'using d3 with dependency injection') http://www.ng-newsletter.com/posts/d3-on-angular.html
[20:30:47] <icfantv> aswebb: but yes, you can create your own filter
[20:30:50] <snurfery> marc_v92: definitely google for a guide to working with sails + angular, there are some good resources out there
[20:30:59] <icfantv> aswebb: but i don't think you need to
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[20:31:22] <marc_v92> snurfery: Alright, sounds good. Thanks for your help thus far, I will do some more research and see what I can come up with, lol.
[20:31:41] <snurfery> cool, feel free to ask tons o questions here if you get stuck
[20:31:45] <jaawerth> kirfu|work: but honestly, this isn't always necessary - in a lot of cases you can just load the library the same way you normally would if you know it will only create, like, on global variable. But if the library does stuff async before it's ready, you'd still need to do something like this with promises
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[20:35:45] <cyen_> hello!
[20:35:49] <BahamutWC|Work> so today I discover that listening for the keypress event isn’t ideal for inputs…change and input events are the important ones it seems
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[20:36:26] <cyen_> BahamutuWC|Work: Is it difficult to tie in jQuery with Angular?
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[20:36:54] <BahamutWC|Work> cyen_: it’s not bad, if you keep in mind how to design things in Angular properly
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[20:37:40] <cyen_> BahamutuWC|Work: it sounds like you have had some experience with it. I have had none, could you give me some tips? I am adding classes to words in a document, and I need to record those and send them back to the server.
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[20:38:14] <snurfery> oof
[20:38:15] <BahamutWC|Work> cyen_: you could use ng-class and store class information in variables on scope
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[20:38:39] <cyen_> BahamutuWC|Work: Oh, okay. What if I wanted to store the id of the element I click on?
[20:38:41] <BahamutWC|Work> makes for a cleaner abstraction I think, so that the controller can control your logic
[20:38:42] <robdubya> hello hello hello
[20:38:56] <cyen_> hello
[20:39:08] <cyen_> Ready to do some Angular??
[20:39:14] <BahamutWC|Work> that sounds yucky - you can probably just use $index on $scope, assuming you’re using ng-repeat
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[20:40:19] <snurfery> yeah it sounds like you're trying to just write jquery cyen_
[20:40:31] <cyen_> I want to make a model based off the information jquery gets me.
[20:40:42] <cyen_> and then update my view
[20:40:50] <cyen_> is that possible?
[20:40:55] <snurfery> why does jquery need to get you the information?
[20:41:01] <snurfery> why can't angular get it for you?
[20:41:08] <BahamutWC|Work> if you’re using angular, angular should be the first class citizen
[20:41:09] <cyen_> jquery adds classes to elements that have been clicked on
[20:41:14] <cyen_> should I do that with angular?
[20:41:17] <BahamutWC|Work> otherwise, you’re not buying so much with angular
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[20:41:59] <snurfery> cyen_: ng-click is one option
[20:42:23] <cyen_> See, I am glad I came here. I would be fumbling so much trying to write this critiquing application. I have these set of tools that when you click on it, you can click on a word and add a correction symbol depending on the tool
[20:42:27] <snurfery> if you're writing angular, then try to do what you need entirely in terms of angular. mixing jq and angular is frustrating and unneeded
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[20:42:51] <snurfery> anyway angular is new and sexy, it'll be good for you to learn it well =)
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[20:43:10] <cyen_> Okay, awesome. I am new to angular XP
[20:44:08] <snurfery> it's gonna take a little bit of work to "think in angular" since you're used to jquery, but once you get it you'll be able to do amazing shit super quick
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[20:44:41] <cyen_> thanks snurfery. What would you do if you wanted to have a set of tools, that only once you click on them, do you add a class to an element?
[20:45:04] <snurfery> what does 'adding a class' accomplish
[20:45:05] <snurfery> ?
[20:45:12] <snurfery> does it display differently?
[20:45:15] <cyen_> It adds a css symbol to the word
[20:45:15] <cyen_> yes
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[20:45:30] <cyen_> all css.. but I need to be able to save and reupload a critiqued document
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[20:47:12] <snurfery> so any of the words might be marked
[20:47:18] <snurfery> presumably there are a bunch of them
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[20:48:39] <robdubya> AngularJS - Do Amazing Shit Super Quick (tm)
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[20:49:11] <cyen_> snurfery: yes you are correct.
[20:49:16] <snurfery> I'm not sure how I'd accomplish that, sounds a little tricky for an angular beginner
[20:49:25] <mivv> Hey all, I am changing the URL of my window with $rootScope.$apply($location.url(newUrl)); When I hit the back button I want to refresh to make sure it is using the correct state in ui-router, any info?
[20:49:26] <snurfery> I'd probably make a directive that has that behavior
[20:49:38] <robdubya> cyen_ so its a text annotation kind of thing?
[20:49:45] <cyen_> snurfer: it is a college project I am working on.... and yes robdubya
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[20:49:46] <snurfery> but that's not super easy if you're just getting into angular
[20:50:12] <robdubya> cyen_ words make sentences, sentences make paragraphs, that kind of thing?
[20:50:21] <cyen_> I am trying to make a "critique" model based off what the user clicks on a document..... If that makes sense. it annotates text on a document, and I need to grab the id, and class (so I know which tool)...
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[20:51:48] <cyen_> What about using a bunch of hidden input fields ? That way I can send information from the view to the server to turn into a critique model
[20:51:49] <snurfery> cyen_ this might be blasphemous, but why is angular a requirement for this project? it sounds like you already know jq
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[20:52:00] <BahamutWC|Work> blasphemy!
[20:52:07] * snurfery is shunned
[20:52:43] <cyen_> snurfery: So that when I graduate, I will have the experience under my belt. I 'want' to challenge myself and learn angular. It's a super cool mvw framework and I'd like to learn it.
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[20:53:05] <snurfery> oh ok, I dig the ambition
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[20:53:54] <snurfery> well then, create a directive that has all the functionality you're describing ;)
[20:53:59] <cyen_> Could I add a ng-click to each of my words on a document, that way I know when they are clicked?
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[20:54:50] <cyen_> Sounds hacky, like a last resort, but I would get all of the elements info.
[20:54:57] <snurfery> cyen_: you could, but that's pretty messy
[20:55:04] <snurfery> yeah if it was due in 30 minutes you could do that
[20:55:13] <cyen_> lol yeah
[20:55:14] <snurfery> but if you're in this to learn, learn the hard stuff
[20:55:19] <cyen_> I agree.
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[20:55:36] <jaawerth> also doing that with every word would create a LOT of event listeners, so performance would likely suffer
[20:55:46] <xastey> holy shit.. google update the dev panel
[20:55:50] <cyen_> Thanks for the input.
[20:55:57] <jaawerth> I'd create a directive and put ng-click on that, and you can figure out which word is clicked by looking at the event target
[20:56:04] <jaawerth> I THINK that would work
[20:56:10] <jaawerth> off the top of my head
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[20:57:37] <snurfery> yeah I was thinking the same thing
[20:57:41] <robdubya> its gonna depend on how the words are stored
[20:57:46] <robdubya> if its one megablock of text
[20:57:47] <cyen_> I see..
[20:57:54] <cyen_> each word is in their own span tag with an id
[20:58:17] <cyen_> that is divided into paragraphs depending if it is a paragraph
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[21:00:48] <robdubya> cyen_ the thing about anguar that's different is that its very data driven
[21:00:57] <robdubya> so while you're thinking "spans and ids"
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[21:01:05] <robdubya> we're thinking "json and objects"
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[21:02:05] <Aswebb> robdubya: Hi, small question: If Im displaying {{ notifications.length }} => is there a way to tell angular {{ notifications.length where notification.someAttribute = true }}
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[21:03:17] <ckuehl> Asiajey: maybe use _.filter or something, don't think there is a convenient way to do comprehension-like syntax
[21:03:18] <robdubya> basically display the length if its greater than one?
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[21:04:12] <Aswebb> robdubya: Im displaying using ng-repeat notification object from my notifications array. However (like facebook notification system for example), you have a small label which indicates you the number of "non viewed" notifications
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[21:04:32] <robdubya> yeah there's a cool trick for this actually
[21:04:37] <Aswebb> so basically my notification object has an attribute viewed whether set to false or true
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[21:05:05] <snurfery> Aswebb: (filteredNotifications = (notifications | filter:{someAttribute: true})).length
[21:05:11] <Aswebb> and I wanna display in this particular div, {{notifications.length}} but the number of notifications where viewed false
[21:05:12] <snurfery> shazam son
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[21:05:29] <Aswebb> snurfery: gonna try that now, thanks
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[21:05:43] <nickeddy> snurfery: are you shaq
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[21:05:58] <snurfery> If I was, I'd want everyone to forget that movie lol
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[21:06:03] <nickeddy> hahahahaha
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[21:07:09] <Aswebb> working like a charm snurfery, thanks a lot
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[21:07:29] <davek> Yay totally ambiguous HTTP errors... "Bad Request" is the best.
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[21:08:56] <davek> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/API/ErrorResponses.html#ErrorCodeList
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[21:09:03] <davek> Oh good, glad they cleared that up.
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[21:09:49] <snurfery> Aswebb: sweet
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[21:09:58] <mivv> Hey all, I am changing the URL of my window with $rootScope.$apply($location.url(newUrl)); When I hit the back button I want to refresh to make sure it is using the correct state in ui-router (it's currently not changing states), any info?
[21:10:00] <robdubya> Hi Rob
[21:10:05] <robdubya> Are you considering new and exciting opportunities? I have an new full-time opportunity with a leading company in Austin, TX. Your background looks to be an ideal match!
[21:10:06] <robdubya> You'll be working on a wide variety of important projects from internal tools, to building consumer products and software.
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[21:10:15] <robdubya> Are you open to hearing more?
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[21:10:41] <snurfery> hmm unsolicited job offers
[21:10:51] <snurfery> we are a lucky bunch, aren't we
[21:10:52] <snurfery> =)
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[21:11:08] <snurfery> "quit offering me money you jerks"
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[21:11:20] <davek> Holy hell has anyone successfully handled uploading to S3 from node?
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[21:11:26] <davek> I'm at wit's end.
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[21:11:46] <robdubya> http://i.imgur.com/2tRH5nJ.jpg
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[21:12:35] <robdubya> davek yis
[21:12:43] <robdubya> you should try that thing from sails
[21:12:44] <robdubya> skipper
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[21:17:23] <davek> robdubya, using something similar (knox) but I'm just trying to debug this rather strange issue. See if anyone has experience dealing with ambiguous S3 errors.
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[21:18:40] <snurfery> davek I do but in other languages, what's the err you're getting?
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[21:19:36] <davek> 400 BadRequest.
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[21:20:01] <davek> I get the feeling its due to an incorrect content-length now (https://github.com/aheckmann/gm/issues/124) but either way, really disappointed Amazon isn't better than this.
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[21:27:18] <ckboii89> hello anyone here?
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[21:28:51] <davek> Nope, still happening... christ this is annoying.
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[21:30:47] <moogumbo> How do I check if an Angular promise (from $http) has been resolved?
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[21:31:18] <moogumbo> I would like to check something like myPromise.isResolved() for an ng-if directive, to show something on the page only once the promise has data
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[21:31:36] <snurfery> moogumbo: you can use ng-cloak for that
[21:32:00] <BahamutWC|Work> moogumbo: just have the promise when resolved toggle a variable
[21:32:01] <snurfery> if your promise is returning data, just test the data itself
[21:32:14] <BahamutWC|Work> or that too
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[21:32:42] <moogumbo> ng-cloak looks cool but is too broad... I'm interested in only 1 specific promise
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[21:33:00] <snurfery> it only applies on the element you put it on
[21:33:08] <moogumbo> Checking the data seems too specific, since I'd like to cover the case where the API returns an empty data set or throws a server-side error
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[21:33:37] <snurfery> oic, well BahamutWC|Work's suggestion sounds best
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[21:34:01] <moogumbo> Yeah, it seems a bit hackish but I guess I'll do that
[21:34:07] <moogumbo> BahamutWC|Work: Thanks
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[21:36:39] <davek> Oh dear god... I may have an aneurysm right now...
[21:36:51] <davek> GM returns "3833856B" as the filesize...
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[21:37:05] <snurfery> ah it has a letter
[21:37:12] <davek> Yeah, which was totally invisible with my font.
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[21:38:34] <davek> New errors! I can deal with this!
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[21:38:40] <BahamutWC|Work> heh, the pains of development
[21:38:41] <snurfery> progress!
[21:38:51] <BahamutWC|Work> I dealt with a wtf from a wordpress plugin earlier today
[21:40:01] <snurfery> ew
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[21:40:33] <robdubya> i'm writing firmware code today. it makes me feel sooooo stupid
[21:40:42] <robdubya> spoiled by javascript
[21:41:26] <davek> I'd take C over JS anyday.
[21:41:27] <snapwich> wordpress is a cluster. i can't believe how awful it is
[21:41:34] <snurfery> that sounds brutal
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[21:41:53] <BahamutWC|Work> I love working with js, as strange as it sounds
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[21:42:19] <BahamutWC|Work> snapwich: yup…this plugin apparently resized images automatically when uploaded to the dimensions of the slide
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[21:42:45] <BahamutWC|Work> which is a global setting for the plugin
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[21:43:33] <robdubya> i do too. mostly because its what i started with
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[21:43:43] <robdubya> i spose if i'd started with C, it'd be different
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[21:45:29] <davek> Sometimes I look over the fence at ruby and I see things like CarrierWave and I get so envious because I have to deal with all of this manually. Then I see all the weeds and dog shit and I get over it.
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[21:46:57] <snapwich> globals. that's the name of the wordpress game
[21:47:41] <BahamutWC|Work> thankfully I almost never work with WP
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[21:49:17] <snapwich> I've been working on writing a static site generator in gulp for my blog to replace all this wordpress crap. it'll probably be about 500 times faster and a million times easier to understand
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[21:49:40] <snapwich> well if you know node streams. they're kind of a pain in the ass too ;)
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[21:49:50] <BahamutWC|Work> WP won’t be replaced until something better for non-technical people comes along
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[21:50:12] <thomasfuston> snapwich: static sites for a blog?
[21:50:20] <snapwich> yeah, why not?
[21:50:27] <BahamutWC|Work> octopress is just that, no?
[21:50:38] <snapwich> blogs are a perfect use case for a static site generator
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[21:51:42] <thomasfuston> snapwich: well thats kinda true, but its not rly dynamic then :)
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[21:59:36] <robdubya> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9137708/Opinion_The_unspoken_truth_about_managing_geeks?taxonomyName=Management&taxonomyId=14 <- perceptive
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[22:03:06] <anger> Should angular-ui typeahead work with 1.3.0?
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[22:03:41] <davek> Okay... readstream is sending data chunks just fine, and yet readStream.pipe(req) eventually returns a "Your socket connection to the server was not read from or written to within the timeout period".
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[22:13:07] <snurfery> finally checking email for the first time in months
[22:13:11] <snurfery> there's soooomuch in there
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[22:13:26] <saucey> hey guys
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[22:13:43] <saucey> have some trouble with setting my route provider
[22:13:48] <robdubya> whaaaats happening
[22:14:11] <saucey> http://laravel.io/bin/V5edd
[22:14:25] <robdubya> davek are you trying to do upload from client to s3 via node?
[22:14:26] <saucey> i have this buts its not loading my controller to the ng-view
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[22:16:21] <davek> robdubya, yeah.
[22:16:33] <davek> Upload -> Process (Node) -> Store (S3)
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[22:18:17] <davek> Ugh, the gm stream is producing chunks but the knox request stream isn't consuming them...
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[22:19:22] <robdubya> davek post code?
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[22:20:02] <robdubya> assuming req is the incoming it should be req.pipe(processor).pipe(s3uploadr) no?
[22:20:39] <saucey> hey was wondering if you guys could help me with ngroute
[22:21:05] <robdubya> saucey stop wondering, start asking
[22:21:10] <robdubya> and posting code
[22:21:22] <snurfery> ^^ seconded =)
[22:21:29] <saucey> http://laravel.io/bin/V5edd
[22:21:38] <saucey> i have my routing included but this isnt working
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[22:22:02] <saucey> i also dont have any javascript errors
[22:22:06] <robdubya> soo first, why are you loading a PHP template?
[22:22:22] <saucey> ok does this only work with html
[22:22:25] <saucey> ?
[22:22:42] <robdubya> well, the fact that you're doing it makes me wonder about a bunch of other things
[22:23:18] <davek> robdubya, req is the put request.
[22:23:21] <saucey> well if thats the case i can change it to html?
[22:23:30] <saucey> can you not use .php extension?
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[22:24:07] <robdubya> davek just checkin :D
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[22:24:32] <robdubya> saucey php shouldnt have anything to do with it really.
[22:24:33] <davek> Yeah thank you for doing so! I'm certainly not immune to dumb mistakes.
[22:24:42] <saucey> ok
[22:24:47] <robdubya> you should check that angualr is actually trying to fetch that template
[22:25:00] <saucey> how do i check
[22:25:06] <saucey> im not great a debugging
[22:25:16] <robdubya> look at the network console
[22:25:25] <moogumbo> How do I decide whether to use ng-if or ng-show to hide/show a thing based on a boolean?
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[22:25:28] <saucey> the view doesnt even load at all
[22:25:31] <moogumbo> Is one generally better or more performant?
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[22:25:52] <saucey> im not sure the ngroute is working because the redirect doesnt even work
[22:26:13] <snurfery> moogumbo: ng-show is generally more performant because it just hides stuff with css, ng-if alters the dom which is a bigger deal
[22:26:14] <user____> I want to create an app that does some analytics using d3, how do i go about choosing the right stack for this?
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[22:26:30] <davek> robdubya, soooo gm appears to be completely overestimating the output size for the image...
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[22:26:47] <robdubya> davek gm is the processor?
[22:26:52] <saucey> when i load up i just get an empty index file
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[22:27:28] <moogumbo> snurfery: That's what I thought. Thanks.
[22:27:31] <bade> Anyone know if there is a directive/module made to print JSON to a page, but still make it interactive? (collapse/expend objects). Similar to this: http://chris.photobooks.com/json/default.htm
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[22:27:52] <user____> I want to create an app that does some analytics using d3, how do i go about choosing the right stack for this?
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[22:28:06] <user____> for example the backend
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[22:28:16] <user____> thinking about using node
[22:28:34] <jeffszusz> anyone successfully using grunt-mocha with angular-mocks? I'm getting errors about not being able to inject things when mocha executes the tests fine in the browser
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[22:28:50] <BahamutWC|Work> user____: not sure that’s a question people can really answer here
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[22:28:57] <bade> user____, it really doesn't make too big of a difference what backend you use. Use whatever you feel comfortable with, whatever you want to explore, or whater meets business requirements.
[22:29:34] <jeffszusz> user____, +1 for comfort / interest
[22:29:35] <user____> alright thanks
[22:29:52] <jeffszusz> assuming business requirements don't factor in if you're asking for an opinion
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[22:31:18] <user____> jeffszusz: yeah this is for a side-project, so business requirements aren't really a concern
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[22:33:35] <user____> jeffszusz: i was thinking about using the MEAN stack, as good as any?
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[22:34:15] <user____> jeffszusz: far more familiar with django, but it'd mean using celery and node seems far for appropriate for the real time nature of the app
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[22:36:59] <anger> hnngh... I was editing the wrong controller for about a hour... no wonder none of my changes worked!
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[22:37:31] <davek> gm, yeah gm is processing the images (the actual binary is imageMagick). It's DEFINITELY an issue with gm's stated filesize. There's an order of magnitude difference between the expected filesize and the actual sum of the chunks passed to the stream. Amazon is expecting more content and times out waiting for it.
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[22:42:44] <lilVaratep> i have an NG-Grid and for one of the columns of NG-Grid I have a dropdownlist. the options get populated succesfully, but it doesn’t initialize/set the option successfully. the data is a little slow to go into the controller. is there a way to update the entire ng-grid? i tried using if(!$scope.$$phase){$scope.$apply();} but didn’t seem to do anything
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[22:43:21] <lilVaratep> i have two datasets for the dropdownlist: one for the values of what the selected option should be and the other is the list of options the user can choose from
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[22:50:36] <saucey> hey guys need help with this http://laravel.io/bin/V5edd
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[22:51:19] <saucey> am i initalising this correctly?
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[22:59:53] <pswizzle> @saucey Looks good to me, is it giving you grief?
[23:00:10] <pswizzle> Also, you'd need to have an `ng-app="gitHubViewer"` bit somewhere in your HTML to boot this off
[23:00:11] <saucey> ye for sure
[23:00:18] <pswizzle> What the problem?
[23:00:25] <saucey> ye il show u my view
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[23:00:55] <saucey> http://laravel.io/bin/LyJa9
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[23:01:08] <saucey> its not loading the ng-view
[23:01:21] <saucey> dont know if its reurning back the route provider
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[23:01:45] <BahamutWC|Work> do you have a default route that’s loading?
[23:02:03] <SuperPhly> I'm having some issues getting $routeParams to work correctly? https://gist.github.com/superphly/ad3c49976c741f13cf89
[23:02:05] <saucey> dont think so
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[23:02:27] <saucey> whats a default route
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[23:02:56] <pswizzle> @saucey does this work if you load the /main url directly?
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[23:03:08] <saucey> nope
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[23:03:31] <BahamutWC|Work> is main.php being served up properly?
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[23:03:44] <saucey> i renamed it too .html
[23:03:52] <pswizzle> Aah
[23:04:01] <pswizzle> go to http://your.app/#/main
[23:04:23] <pswizzle> And lemme know if that works
[23:04:36] <BahamutWC|Work> well, it looks like he has an otherwise set up, it is supposed to redirect to /main
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[23:05:04] <saucey> thapswizzle that didnt do nothing still not loading in the ng-view
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[23:05:17] <Guest35535> hi, just started with angular. is the 100+ KB angular.js all needed or can it be rebuild into a smaller footprint ?
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[23:05:40] <saucey> yes its supposed to but it does nothing
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[23:06:03] <saucey> doesnt redirect to anywhere
[23:06:17] <saucey> im wonder if it has something to do with my server
[23:06:20] <snapwich> 100kb is as small as it gets i think. that's actually smaller than jQuery I think. plus it's actually about 30kb when you account for gzip compression
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[23:06:26] <saucey> im just running this on localhost
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[23:07:14] <pswizzle> @saucey Gotcha, it shouldn't do page redirects, though
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[23:07:22] <saucey> yea but its not
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[23:07:39] <saucey> is there anyway i can do some kind of debugging to see whats going on?
[23:07:43] <Guest35535> of course it's still quite small. am considering whether to go for plain js or angular, the webapp i'm building is quite simple...
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[23:08:19] <pswizzle> the `otherwise({redirectTo: ''})` won't browser redirect, but rather perform an an-page redirect, which should update your page's URL hash
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[23:08:49] <pswizzle> As for debugging, check your console.log and see if any errors are being logged there
[23:08:52] <da_wunder> saucey: and you don't have any js errors?
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[23:09:00] <saucey> nopt not one
[23:09:01] <robdubya> saucey make a plunker with your existing code
[23:09:09] <saucey> ok
[23:09:10] <robdubya> should be pretty easy to transplant
[23:09:19] <pswizzle> :+1: to that. Plunker is good for multi-file tests
[23:09:20] <icfantv> if i filter the data coming back from an $http call in success(), is the filtered data returned or the unfiltered?
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[23:09:58] <pswizzle> @icfantv like $http.succes(myFilter).then(function(someData) { }) ?
[23:10:09] <snapwich> Guest35535: I'm thinking fretting over a 30kb javascript library is a micro-optimization that you probably shouldn't be worrying about ;)
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[23:10:32] <snapwich> unless your userbase is grandmas on 56k modems
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[23:10:54] <snapwich> in which case they're using netscape and angular won't work anyways. or javascript for hte most part
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[23:11:27] <icfantv> pswizzle: more like $scope.result = $http(…).success(function(data) { /* filter data here */ })
[23:11:33] <Guest35535> userbase is mobile...
[23:11:35] <robdubya> snapwich sigh, i'm working with a microcontroller and i'm having a real hard time turning my brain off from that mode
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[23:11:50] <icfantv> pswizzle: but a .then() might make more sense
[23:11:53] <robdubya> 100kb = all the space i have to work in :(
[23:11:59] <snapwich> Guest35535 my primary application i code for my company is a mobile app. angular has been fine
[23:12:06] <ckboii89> qucik question
[23:12:10] <pswizzle> Totes. The return from a `.then()` call is the argument to the next
[23:12:13] <Guest35535> thanks for the input snapwich
[23:12:19] <Guest35535> i'm moving on :) bye
[23:12:24] <pswizzle> eg $http.then(filterData).then(doSomethingWithFilteredData)
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[23:12:30] <ckboii89> if im doing a backend check, do i use GET with RESTful web dev?
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[23:12:48] <robdubya> generally yes
[23:13:00] <ckboii89> o hey there
[23:13:01] <pswizzle> snapwich: Just beware that `.then` and `.success` get different params; then gets the resource, success gets resource.data
[23:13:19] <snapwich> what
[23:13:28] <robdubya> real talk
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[23:13:32] <pswizzle> Yeah. Weird.
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[23:13:47] <ckboii89> we still need to finish you teaching me the ins and outs of angular
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[23:13:55] <nicolas__> Hi Guys
[23:13:56] <pswizzle> $http.then(function(res) { // res == {config, data, headers })
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[23:14:12] <pswizzle> $http.then(function(data) { // data == res.data })
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[23:14:20] <pswizzle> err s/then/success for that last one
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[23:14:45] <robdubya> success *seems* easier, but it fucks up the whole promise thinking, imo
[23:14:48] <nicolas__> in which case $resource.$save wouldn’t send the form datas to the server ?
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[23:15:33] <saucey> robdubya ive created that plunker
[23:15:41] <Aerospark> Guys, i'm writing my first angular app... would you recommend using ng-router or ui-router?
[23:15:43] <nicolas__> the first time it works, if I get an error from the server and set some validity, and after that some fields datas are not sent
[23:15:45] <robdubya> then link that ish yo
[23:15:49] <robdubya> Aerospark ui-router
[23:15:51] <nicolas__> any idea ?
[23:15:55] <pswizzle> @Aerospark totes ui-router
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[23:16:03] <pswizzle> @nicolas__ what was the question?
[23:16:04] <robdubya> totes mcgotes
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[23:16:23] <saucey> how do i show you guys my plunkr
[23:16:28] <robdubya> save it
[23:16:29] <robdubya> post the link
[23:16:32] <robdubya> url
[23:16:34] <robdubya> address
[23:16:40] <icfantv> pswizzle: like this: $http(…).success(data).then(dataPrime)?
[23:16:47] <nickeddy> nooooooooooo
[23:16:49] <nickeddy> .then()
[23:17:00] <robdubya> DEATH TO SUCCESS AND HER ALLIES
[23:17:05] <nickeddy> ^^^
[23:17:08] <Aerospark> sweet thanks, so ui-router basically supersedes ng-router?
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[23:17:17] <nickeddy> Aerospark: yes
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[23:17:26] <Aerospark> cool
[23:17:31] <Aerospark> here goes nothin
[23:17:40] <nickeddy> Aerospark: it's not like it's a drop in replacement though
[23:17:50] <pswizzle> @icfantv like $http.then(function(res) { filter(res.data) }).then(function(filtered) { doSomething(filteredData) })
[23:17:56] <robdubya> all the more reason to start with it
[23:18:00] <saucey> http://plnkr.co/edit/c8lmghFoXbv561bNaeI2?p=preview
[23:18:24] <ckboii89> can someone explain to me what a promise is?
[23:18:28] <robdubya> Aerospark http://plnkr.co/edit/LZTqdd "typical" ui-router usage
[23:18:32] <saucey> i must be doing so wrong, sorry its the first time i used plnkr
[23:18:36] <pswizzle> res == the HTTP response, not the body of the response... which is what `.success()` does
[23:18:38] <robdubya> ckboii89 its a promise to return a value
[23:18:54] <robdubya> in the simplest terms, a promise represents a value that will be resolved at some point in the future
[23:18:55] <SuperPhly> I've got a very simple controller.js with the initialization, a simple config of routeParameter and then a single controller. The problem I'm experiencing is that the $routeParams aren't being passed. Or rather it is being returned as undefined.
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[23:19:11] <SuperPhly> I've spent close to 4-5 hours working on this, and I'm at a wall.
[23:19:13] <robdubya> ckboii89 domenic.me/2012/10/14/youre-missing-the-point-of-promises/
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[23:19:24] <SuperPhly> could someone take a quick look at this? https://gist.github.com/superphly/ad3c49976c741f13cf89
[23:19:30] <SuperPhly> what am i missing?
[23:19:39] <saucey> robdubya can you check this out http://plnkr.co/edit/c8lmghFoXbv561bNaeI2?p=preview
[23:19:45] <robdubya> saucey looking
[23:19:51] <saucey> oh cheers
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[23:20:37] <pswizzle> SuperPhly: ...um.... that _should_ work.
[23:20:44] <SuperPhly> pswizzle: i know...
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[23:21:02] <pswizzle> Have you tried fetching $route, and inspecting $route.current.params?
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[23:21:10] <pswizzle> s/fetching/di-ing
[23:21:14] <SuperPhly> di?
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[23:21:24] <pswizzle> Dependency-injecting.
[23:21:33] <SuperPhly> i have no idea what that is... let me google it
[23:21:41] <pswizzle> Ah hold up, I'll comment on your gist
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[23:22:26] <SuperPhly> I fear I may have something wrong in my HTML
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[23:23:44] <pswizzle> Looks correct, at least. Provided that artistCtrl is getting run, you _should_ have access to the $routeParams object
[23:24:07] <SuperPhly> pswizzle: https://gist.github.com/superphly/64e9b0d7a639b74c9efb
[23:24:12] <SuperPhly> there's my html
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[23:24:22] <robdubya> saucey ok
[23:24:27] <robdubya> so a few problems with that plunker
[23:24:32] <saucey> ?
[23:24:33] <SuperPhly> pswizzle: i only have two ng-* statements in there
[23:24:37] <robdubya> how much of it translates to your actual problem, we'll see
[23:24:38] <saucey> haha
[23:24:54] <saucey> whats the problems?
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[23:25:19] <robdubya> saucey http://plnkr.co/edit/ljFku8CFFhNoClu3ABxP?p=preview
[23:25:20] <robdubya> so
[23:25:28] <robdubya> first - you didn't have an ng-app on the html
[23:25:32] <pswizzle> SuperPhly: aah, gotcha - your controller is being booted up by the `ng-controller=artistsCtrl` statement, not by the router
[23:25:33] <robdubya> so nothing will happen without that
[23:25:37] <robdubya> second, you were doing
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[23:25:47] <SuperPhly> pswizzle: ah, that has priority?
[23:25:50] <robdubya> angular.module('githubViewer',[ ] ) twice
[23:26:00] <saucey> ok
[23:26:06] <robdubya> which overrwrites it the 2nd time
[23:26:22] <robdubya> you want to *declare the module* with the 'app', [ ] syntax
[23:26:26] <pswizzle> Since the router isn't booting your controller, the $routeParams object isn't populated
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[23:26:32] <robdubya> and then retrieve without the 2nd param saucey
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[23:26:39] <SuperPhly> pswizzle: how do i set the context for a controller then from the routeProvider?
[23:26:44] <robdubya> angular.module('githubViewer') <- retrieve
[23:26:49] <SuperPhly> how do i tell it what div to attach to?
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[23:27:06] <saucey> ok thanks a lot il try fix this on my side
[23:27:13] <saucey> im so greatful for your time
[23:27:25] <robdubya> saucey just as a minor point
[23:27:29] <SuperPhly> or should that be done through partials only?
[23:27:30] <pswizzle> Okay, you're using ng-route? Then use the `ng-view` directive. That gets bound to the controller
[23:27:34] <robdubya> you dont have to wrap everything in an IIFE
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[23:27:38] <robdubya> if you just chain
[23:27:46] <saucey> ok
[23:27:57] <robdubya> angular.module('foo',[]).controller('fooCtrl',function(){}).provider( ... etc
[23:28:09] <robdubya> you can of course
[23:28:29] <pswizzle> SuperPhly: _sorta_. ng-view is used to load a template/controller combo when a route matches
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[23:28:42] <SuperPhly> ah, so it would be a named "area"
[23:28:48] <robdubya> its like a container SuperPhly
[23:28:53] <pswizzle> Directives (ng-* stuff) inside that template are scoped to the matched controller
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[23:29:22] <SuperPhly> is that defined in the routeProvider or the controller?
[23:29:28] <robdubya> saucey and you're welcome. happy to help, having plunkers always helps
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[23:29:40] <robdubya> SuperPhly http://plnkr.co/edit/ljFku8CFFhNoClu3ABxP?p=preview <- see saucey's thing
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[23:30:08] <pswizzle> That :)
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[23:30:17] <SuperPhly> ah <ng-view> as a tag
[23:30:31] <SuperPhly> as an element
[23:30:48] <pswizzle> Yep, and the `$routeProvider.when('/foo', {template: 'bar', controller: 'barCtrl' })` bit..
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[23:31:14] <robdubya> ng-router sucks anyway
[23:31:15] <pswizzle> dumps the template into `ng-view` and boots the matched controller, bound to that ng-view tag
[23:31:21] <pswizzle> Eh... it's easy, at least
[23:31:23] <pswizzle> Kinda.
[23:31:25] <pswizzle> Mabye
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[23:31:27] <pswizzle> Not quite
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[23:31:36] <robdubya> NOTHING WORTH DOING IS EASY
[23:31:51] <robdubya> except angular
[23:32:11] <pswizzle> Don't worry, Angular isn't easy either
[23:32:14] <snapwich> Angular is easy, until you have to figure out what the hell it's actually doing for you behind the scenes
[23:32:32] <pswizzle> _That_ is actually pretty straightforward. Just poorly explained
[23:32:32] <robdubya> abandon all jquery, ye who enter here
[23:32:50] <pswizzle> Just $scope.$digest(). It's the new setTimeout
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[23:33:15] <davek> robdubya, works with 'nobody' as well.
[23:33:22] <davek> Dual purpose wisdom.
[23:33:34] <robdubya> lel
[23:34:00] <BobbieBarker> on ui router how do you open a link that lets you go outside the app?
[23:34:08] <BobbieBarker> or more aptly how do you write that
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[23:34:20] <snapwich> a href
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[23:34:32] <BobbieBarker> i'm trying to hyper link email addys and ui-router seems to be cock blocking the shit out of me
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[23:34:34] <BobbieBarker> i'm using an a href
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[23:34:54] <SuperPhly> pswizzle: do i need to set anything else in that controller.js? I took out the template stuff
[23:34:55] <snapwich> with a regular link in it?
[23:35:05] <snapwich> i've never had ui-router interfere with my a href's
[23:35:12] <robdubya> BobbieBarker throw an ng-click="$event.preventDefault()" on the a
[23:35:17] <BobbieBarker> <a href="{{contact.contact.email}}">{{contact.contact.email | limitTo: 20}}</a>
[23:35:24] <BobbieBarker> okie rob
[23:35:28] <robdubya> iirc that works
[23:35:43] <pswizzle> SuperPhly: Got an updated link, or plunkr?
[23:35:52] <snapwich> BobbieBarker, do you need a maileto: in there?
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[23:35:56] <snapwich> mailto:
[23:36:03] <BobbieBarker> i dunno do i?
[23:36:06] <robdubya> yes
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[23:36:08] <snapwich> if you want it to open an e-mail client
[23:36:12] <robdubya> le sigh
[23:36:29] <BobbieBarker> the gayest of the gay
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[23:36:43] <snapwich> i just wasn't sure if you had the "mailto:" in your vairable already
[23:36:44] <SuperPhly> pswizzle: i don't understand plunkr quite yet.
[23:36:52] <pswizzle> Hah, understandable
[23:36:58] <robdubya> i want the new plunker already :(
[23:37:02] <pswizzle> You should just be able to move anything inside that `ng-controller=...` div into your the template, replace it with <ng-view>, and reference the template in your route definition
[23:37:07] <BobbieBarker> nah oddly enough i've never hyper linked an email addy before in angular
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[23:37:25] <SuperPhly> reference what template?
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[23:38:04] <pswizzle> Gimme a sec.., commenting on your gist
[23:38:21] <SuperPhly> i'm really close to understanding this
[23:38:25] <robdubya> BobbieBarker hows your thing coming
[23:38:30] <snapwich> BobbieBarker: linking an e-mail addy has nothing to do w/ angular. that's regular web browser shiz
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[23:38:44] <robdubya> i thinik even w3schools gets that right
[23:38:47] <BobbieBarker> it's coming along quite nicely rob
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[23:38:53] <BobbieBarker> pfft assholes i know it's jsut an html thing
[23:39:02] <BobbieBarker> thats why i was wondering why it wasn't working
[23:39:07] <robdubya> BobbieBarker you suck, you're stupid, and ugly. and you smell.
[23:39:14] <BobbieBarker> all of those are true statements
[23:39:25] <nickeddy> it's okay i love you BobbieBarker
[23:39:28] <snapwich> it's okay, i was all of those things before i found angular as well
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[23:39:30] <BobbieBarker> thanks nickeddy
[23:39:43] <nickeddy> even though you do smell
[23:39:50] <nickeddy> i can suck it up
[23:39:51] <sean33> How difficult is it to get remote work these days as a web application developer?
[23:39:58] <nickeddy> sean33: pretty easy
[23:40:04] <sean33> oh yeah?
[23:40:05] <BobbieBarker> i dunno i'm doing it right now so it can't be too hard
[23:40:06] <robdubya> sean33 if you have a decent github
[23:40:08] <nickeddy> if you're decent i guess
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[23:40:11] <pswizzle> SuperPhly: https://gist.github.com/superphly/ad3c49976c741f13cf89
[23:40:12] <nickeddy> what robdubya said
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[23:40:26] <sean33> You guys do short time contract work?
[23:40:27] <robdubya> sean33 also linkedin, as much as i hate to say that
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[23:40:30] <sean33> or work for a company?
[23:40:34] <sean33> fulltime
[23:40:40] <BobbieBarker> i'm some sort of hybrid i'm full time contract that is going to last awhile
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[23:40:43] <robdubya> i get spammed by recruiters erryday
[23:40:46] <BobbieBarker> which will hopefully lead to w2 status
[23:40:53] <BobbieBarker> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/271171/sending-emails-with-javascript/271172#271172 <<-- solution?
[23:40:53] <snapwich> as long as you have github or something similar there's no reason to even go to work anymore. unless they serve lunch
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[23:41:08] <sean33> what kind of apps you building BobbieBarker?
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[23:41:20] <BobbieBarker> ^^ what that guy said, why waste gas and time driving to a building
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[23:41:24] <nickeddy> lol
[23:41:35] <nickeddy> i like to get face time with other devs though
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[23:41:43] <nickeddy> then again i guess skype works
[23:41:44] <nickeddy> but still
[23:41:46] <BobbieBarker> a very large one covered by an NDA that does a lot of different shit
[23:41:46] <snapwich> apple facetime
[23:41:52] <nickeddy> pffffffff
[23:42:01] <robdubya> hangouts bros
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[23:42:06] <nickeddy> yeah
[23:42:08] <robdubya> google hangouts are the shiznit
[23:42:11] <reduce> if i put a directive in a ng-repeat which repeats say 5 times, then the link function for that directive runs 5 times and the compile function runs once, right?
[23:42:15] <BobbieBarker> we use hangouts
[23:42:15] <sean33> I don't have a degree in computer science but I've done some work in the past for web development. I'm considering taking the next year off and really learning the MEAN stack and doing some serious web application stuff
[23:42:21] <snapwich> reduce: yup
[23:42:34] <sean33> I'd like to move countries to be with my girlfriend and get some remote work ideally
[23:42:51] <robdubya> sean33 as a point, international remote work is trickier
[23:42:54] <nickeddy> sean33: i don't have a comp sci degree either. it's doable, but you have to kick ass.
[23:43:05] <foobarbazbat> I have a Factory that does an async GET request. How do I prevent it from firing more than once when the scope changes?
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[23:43:06] <BobbieBarker> i have a comp sci degree but it's basically useless
[23:43:10] <robdubya> no degree here
[23:43:17] <sean33> I live in Europe
[23:43:23] <sean33> Remote work harder here?
[23:43:25] <nickeddy> foobarbazbat: you could turn that in to a service
[23:43:26] <pswizzle> Experience > Degree
[23:43:30] <nickeddy> ^
[23:43:34] <BobbieBarker> yeah relevent experience
[23:43:38] <pswizzle> I have an art degree. Whee.
[23:43:39] <robdubya> sean33 more that remote working between countries is trickier
[23:43:41] <snapwich> how is a comp sci degree worthess? unless it's from university of pheonix or smoething
[23:43:54] <robdubya> snapwich its not worthless at all. its just not a *requirement*
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[23:43:57] <pswizzle> Eh. It's not _use-ful_
[23:43:58] <sean33> robdubya ah right ok
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[23:44:02] <foobarbazbat> nickeddy: why would a service be different? I'm new to Angular but I thought they were basically the same thing
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[23:44:18] <robdubya> foobarbazbat they are, more or less
[23:44:20] <kirfu|work> how do you get the id of a directive?
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[23:44:23] <pswizzle> It's relevant in that it bootstraps a lot of basic programming know-how.
[23:44:26] <snapwich> of course it's not a requirement, unless job applications are going through HR that just does what they're told
[23:44:27] <robdubya> thats kind of a strange question though
[23:44:37] <sean33> As I'm just 21 I was considering doing a compsci degree, but the first year is basically shit I already know and I just want to get stuck into Node ASAP
[23:44:51] <sean33> Its a tough call
[23:44:51] <BobbieBarker> comp sci is worthelss because they don't teach you anything relevent and most programs are in C90 or java
[23:44:57] <nickeddy> ^
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[23:44:59] <robdubya> actually, for the first time in my dev career, i'm wishing i had a compsci degree
[23:44:59] <sean33> yeah thats what I've noticed
[23:45:01] <foobarbazbat> robdubya: why is it a strange question?
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[23:45:09] <snapwich> they don't teach you anything relevant to web dev in-particular
[23:45:15] <snapwich> they teach you a LOT of relevant theory
[23:45:15] <sean33> why should I spend 3 years getting a piece of paper when I just want to start learning angular?
[23:45:18] <BobbieBarker> ^^ especially that
[23:45:19] <robdubya> foobarbazbat "when the scope changes" shouldn't have much to do with services firing
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[23:45:21] <sean33> as if they are going to teach that in any college
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[23:45:28] <oniijin> bc u learn how to solve problems
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[23:45:47] <BobbieBarker> sean33 its more for career development kind of opens a door since when you start out you will look like you know nothing regardless of what you feel like you know
[23:45:47] <oniijin> it's language agnostic
[23:45:55] <BobbieBarker> your resume will basically say nothing about you as a developer
[23:45:56] <snapwich> i can tell a big difference between someone with a comp sci degree that understands algorithms and comp theory as opposed to someone who just took a web dev bootstrap course
[23:45:56] <BobbieBarker> or programmer
[23:46:14] <nickeddy> heh
[23:46:24] <robdubya> snapwich equally though, you can tell a CS degree person who's never written a line of "real world" code in their life
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[23:46:31] <oniijin> it's not a requirement but a lot of "devs" out there can't fucking solve basic shit to save their life
[23:46:34] <nickeddy> that's true, i've seen a lot of that
[23:46:37] <snapwich> robdubya: yes, true
[23:46:38] <nickeddy> it goes both ways
[23:46:40] <robdubya> vs a self-taught guy who makes things. i'll take the latter, every time
[23:46:48] <nickeddy> robdubya: hire me
[23:46:49] <nickeddy> :P
[23:46:50] <BobbieBarker> there is that to consider, but that is a small part of things imo. It's definately a piece of the pie b it isn't the entire pie
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[23:47:03] <snapwich> a self-taught guy can also have a very good understanding of comp theory and algorithms as well. it's just less likely
[23:47:04] <oniijin> just look at a lot of the "devs" who come in here
[23:47:04] <robdubya> nickeddy if you speak C and embedded stuffs, lets talk :D
[23:47:22] <snapwich> comp theory isn't usually something goes and learns on their own unless they have quite the dedication to understanding
[23:47:25] <BobbieBarker> oniijin has a point there are a lot of people that come in here that ask questions about basic programming shit
[23:47:26] <nickeddy> robdubya: naaaaaaaaah just do JS on embedded now: http://www.espruino.com/
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[23:47:41] <robdubya> nickeddy i wish
[23:47:52] <nickeddy> robdubya: i've got one, it's actually pretty cool.
[23:48:04] <oniijin> does it porn
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[23:48:13] <robdubya> i have one too, but this project is a TI chipset
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[23:48:21] <da_wunder> nickeddy: in real world, you don't get to use that kind of cadgets
[23:48:22] <nickeddy> oniijin: duh
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[23:48:42] <nickeddy> da_wunder: haha yeah sadly... i'm just going to do some home automation with it i think
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[23:49:01] <snapwich> I think you'd be fine hiring a competent programmer who knows javascript and C even if he doesn't have a degree, because at least he understands the underlying abstraction. the problem is most javascript devs with no degree have no concept of the underlying abstraction they're working on. or what an abstraction even is ;)
[23:49:06] <robdubya> nickeddy http://www.ti.com/ww/en/wireless_connectivity/sensortag/index.shtml?INTC=SensorTag&HQS=sensortag
[23:49:17] <drej> mmm abstraction
[23:49:22] <drej> sexy, smooth abstraction
[23:49:26] <sean33> Universities here in Ireland allow applications to 2nd/3rd year so I'm considering doing my own stuff for a year or two and then going into 2nd/3rd
[23:49:27] <robdubya> writing firmware for that chipset at the moment. fun, but as a primary JS dev, its a bit of mindfuck
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[23:49:53] <e-dard> how can I change some text in a view based upon the value of a boolean in a value? something like {{fooString if var.isFoo else barString}} ?? Where fooString and barString are string literals
[23:49:55] <nickeddy> i imagine. can't say i'm a huge fan of C.
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[23:50:06] <snapwich> here's a good article I think demonstrating the concept: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/LeakyAbstractions.html
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[23:50:32] <nickeddy> e-dard: close. {{ var.isFoo ? 'some string if true' : 'some string if false' }}
[23:50:41] <nickeddy> e-dard: ternary operator
[23:50:45] <e-dard> nickeddy: perfect. Thanks
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[23:51:04] <robdubya> nickeddy i was figuring out how to write to flash this weekend. its about 8 levels of abstraction lower than i'm used to working at :D
[23:51:22] <nickeddy> why flash?
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[23:51:42] <silentimp> hi. i am trying to send put request with $http.put and parse it in php script. http://pastie.org/9415869 php://input is empty and i can't get why. there are data in the request… (http://dresser.websaints.net/admin.html — hover picture and edit text to check it out)
[23:51:55] <silentimp> May you help me find problem?
[23:51:55] <sean33> For you guys who are working remotely and don't have degrees how long have you been coding?
[23:52:03] <sean33> on a professional level at least
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[23:52:26] <da_wunder> sean33: here more than 10 years
[23:52:37] <robdubya> 4 years ish
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[23:52:53] <robdubya> nickeddy onboard flash memory on the SoC
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[23:53:07] <nickeddy> ohhh i thought you meant adobe flash. i was about to tell you to shoot yourself
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[23:53:20] <robdubya> haha
[23:53:29] <nickeddy> it's sort of like arduino, yeah?
[23:53:31] <sean33> Thanks for the help guys, I'll be back another day!
[23:53:37] <sean33> take it easy
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[23:53:49] <robdubya> nickeddy yeah, except the compiler costs 3000 dollars
[23:53:54] <nickeddy> lol
[23:53:59] <nickeddy> which is why arduino exists :)
[23:54:24] <robdubya> credit to TI, their new stuff has some really useful abstraction layers built in
[23:54:30] <da_wunder> and still professionals will not use arduino on real work
[23:54:48] <robdubya> we prototyped it all on arduino
[23:55:01] <robdubya> now we gotta make the real thing. not *quite* the same thing
[23:55:01] <nickeddy> that's cool
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[23:55:11] <nickeddy> shhh da_wunder don't destroy my dreams
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[23:55:23] <nickeddy> actually that's not true, we had a grant come through about using arduinos
[23:55:30] <nickeddy> sadly i wasn't on that project
[23:55:34] <robdubya> i will say, its dope as hell to control the "real world" from angular
[23:55:55] <robdubya> angular -> cordova -> bluetooth low energy -> blinky lights and sensors
[23:55:55] <da_wunder> nickeddy: what is the use case
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[23:56:31] <nickeddy> da_wunder: it was for some cheap sensor monitoring/mesh network type thing
[23:56:54] <visionary> hello
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[23:57:07] <da_wunder> nickeddy: http://www.protacon.com/english/Services/techservices/
[23:57:14] <davek> nickeddy, Flash is still pretty valuable for certain purposes.
[23:57:18] <robdubya> is the a #CforDummies channel?
[23:57:25] <da_wunder> that's some what we're doing
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[23:57:57] <nickeddy> da_wunder: cool. yeah when it's critical systems stuff obviously an arduino won't do :)
[23:58:03] <nickeddy> davek: such as?
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[23:58:12] <robdubya> nickeddy this is all the mouthguard thing still. turns out, they have no fucking idea what they're doing :p
[23:58:27] <nickeddy> hahahah
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[23:59:32] <davek> Signal processing/analysis and better streaming audio.
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