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[00:03:10] <ishi> oki, good night :)
[00:03:19] <ishi> thanks all... I have a lot to digest :)
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<AngularUI> [bootstrap] rasmusvhansen opened pull request #2463: feat(dropdown): Added dropdownMenu directive to use for context menus (master...master) http://git.io/PDWKog
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[00:12:17] <jhamm> is there a way to change the grouping seperator when formatting currency?
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[00:14:39] <davek> jhamm, like 5,00?
[00:14:46] <Aliks> is there a way to require: 'parent directive OR directive present on same element' ?
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[00:15:06] <Aliks> or would I have to do require: [ '?^dir', '?dir' ] and then sort it out internally?
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[00:15:09] <davek> Aliks, yes '^parent' requires parent directive, 'blah' requires on the same element.
[00:15:16] <Aliks> davek: but I want an OR
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[00:15:29] <Aliks> is there any way to do '^?dir' (not '?^dir')
[00:15:41] <Aliks> or '?^?dir' (hah)
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[00:16:22] <davek> Aliks, nope.
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[00:16:29] <Aliks> ok good to know
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[00:16:47] <davek> Doesn't really make sense as a feature. You're looking for consistency of dom structure when using directives.
[00:17:02] <davek> Which is not to say that your use case is invalid, just unusual. You may want to take another look at it.
[00:17:22] <Aliks> yeah
[00:17:30] <wafflejock> Aliks: yeah typically if I've seen something where it has multiple use cases the person who writes it just pulls out the common code and writes two directive definitions that use the same extracted code
[00:17:35] <gnarMatix> wooowww.. i just spent hours trying to figure out why an ng-repeat was so slow. turns out there was a css animation (an opacity change of .005 :S) on all rendered elements. Just thought I'd share, don't do CSS animations on ng-repeated elements.
[00:17:42] <Aliks> wafflejock: also makes sense
[00:18:02] <robdubya> ouch gnarMatix
[00:18:08] <Aliks> also, it's too bad there's no way to have Angular interfaces...
[00:18:23] <Aliks> like require: '^someParentThatImplementsTheNecessaryInterface'
[00:18:31] <wafflejock> Aliks: yeah I feel that way about JS :P
[00:18:33] <robdubya> Aliks thats what services do :D
[00:18:45] <Aliks> good point
[00:18:52] <robdubya> though i agree to a point
[00:19:08] <robdubya> being able to use interfaces with angular 2.0 DI is pretty incredible
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[00:19:17] <wafflejock> yeah a "real" interface would be nice too but I like OOP
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[00:19:23] <Aliks> robdubya: I didn't know they had that in 2.0
[00:19:27] <davek> gnarMatix, eh? I do animations on my ng-repeats. That shouldn't have been causing that issue.
[00:19:28] <Aliks> robdubya: is 2.0 stable enough to use?
[00:19:35] <robdubya> Aliks not even close :D
[00:19:43] <robdubya> its not even a thing yet
[00:19:48] <robdubya> but the pieces are cool
[00:19:52] <wafflejock> davek: think the transition time is what was messing it up probably
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[00:20:11] <gnarMatix> i'm not sure what it was
[00:20:18] <Aliks> I suppose the only reason I would use a parent directive instead of a service in this case is...
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[00:20:25] <gnarMatix> actually
[00:20:49] <gnarMatix> that makes more sense. it must have been a transition that was occurring when the elements were removed, causing a delay.
[00:20:49] <davek> I'd wager the small alpha value and low-precision of CSS maths is giving the occlusion system hell.
[00:20:52] <Aliks> hmm actually maybe this would work
[00:21:00] <davek> Also yeah the transition time.
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[00:21:23] <gnarMatix> okay cool well. i won't blame the transitions then.
[00:21:25] <Aliks> I have multiple "query builder" elements and I didn't like the idea of having a service that bundled up all the "query builder" directives anywhere on the page
[00:21:31] <robdubya> blame canada
[00:21:38] <Aliks> but I suppose I could somehow add an id in the service
[00:21:40] <wafflejock> gnarMatix: really good to profile to know where to point the finger
[00:21:52] <Aliks> like queryService.doSomething(queryGroupId, action)
[00:21:52] <gnarMatix> wafflejock: i tried to use it but couldn't figure it out haha
[00:21:56] <robdubya> Aliks why not have a service that spits out an instance of a query?
[00:21:57] <wafflejock> gnarMatix: it's easy to just tell it to record then you do some stuff that would make it slow then hit stop
[00:22:11] <gnarMatix> wafflejock: how would I isolate CSS transitions from that?
[00:22:16] <wafflejock> gnarMatix: then it gives you a graph that shows all the calls and CPU time so then you just look for lumps in it
[00:22:22] <Aliks> robdubya: yeah like queryService.get('id for this query group') ?
[00:22:29] <wafflejock> gnarMatix: there's other views that might help more with the CSS stuff in the same profiling section
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[00:22:38] <robdubya> Aliks are you doing a UI query builder type thing?
[00:22:43] <wafflejock> gnarMatix: there's some view that shows a piechart of the breakdown for render time vs script execution etc.
[00:22:43] <Aliks> robdubya: yeah
[00:22:59] <davek> The chrome devtools profiler does this.
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[00:23:20] <Aliks> robdubya: with multiple queries though in the same UI, handled at the same time
[00:23:24] <davek> The profiler is fucking _incredible_ if you ever get the chance to take a look at it. Not only is the default interface just excellent but all of the data is super portable and the exposed API is phenomenal.
[00:23:27] <wafflejock> gnarMatix: if it was just the transition stopping it nothing would be showing up really for long period of CPU execution but then you would at least know that
[00:23:27] <jaawerth> robdubya: Hey, you ever played with WebRTC?
[00:23:37] <wafflejock> davek: agree it's amazing
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[00:23:59] <wafflejock> davek: we had Adobe Scout at the end of my life in AS3 and that was also awesome but too little too late
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[00:24:33] <jaawerth> robdubya: The reason I ask is... from what I'm reading about updates to the protocol last september (available in Chrome and Firefox, at least), you could theoretically do browser-based peer-to-peer downloads to offload site bandwidth
[00:24:41] <jaawerth> I think it would be a cool experiment
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[00:25:38] <davek> I've played with WebRTC! And BT/gnutella.
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[00:25:59] <davek> jaawerth, you may want to check our PeerJS if that's your interest.
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[00:26:23] <jaawerth> davek: Ah! I was just looking to see if there were any libraries out there already wrapping it
[00:26:38] <jaawerth> davek: when you say BT/gnutella, do you mean through the browser or..?
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[00:27:15] <davek> There are some fundamental security issues with direct p2p file downloads/sharing but I did a project last semester to make a distributed p2p filesystem using fuse and bt on the desktop side, providing a web interface via PeerJS.
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[00:27:28] <davek> jaawerth, nah.
[00:27:48] <jaawerth> ahh, neat davek
[00:28:47] <jaawerth> definitely some security issues, but I'm impressed with how few security issues I've encountered with BT, provided the torrent itself is legitimate
[00:29:02] <jaawerth> I just assumed they got really really good at doing hash checks
[00:29:06] <davek> Neat concept, in reality it was just totally, ridiculously inefficient. Like 20 minutes to download a 5mb file and that's IF the sharding system was able to reconstitute it.
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[00:29:37] <davek> BT is just the most incredible protocol, once you start developing with it it becomes obvious why it's survived so long. So simple in design and yet so powerful.
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[00:29:47] <jaawerth> davek: well that's SORT of what bittorrent is doing now with bittorrent sync, no? Only they get around the speed issue by doing it all in the background and avoiding the "filesystem" part
[00:29:54] <robdubya> jaawerth nope, not really
[00:30:18] <Aliks> robdubya: a bit different than this
[00:30:36] <Aliks> lots of dropdown menus that all update each other
[00:30:40] <Aliks> and several rows of this
[00:30:50] <davek> jaawerth, haven't looked at that. We had a bit of a silly sharding system, I'd be interested to know how they distribute their data reliably.
[00:30:55] <robdubya> Aliks point of that is that each query is an *instance* of query
[00:30:58] <robdubya> rather than just a pojo
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[00:31:22] <jaawerth> davek: Yeah, I remember when bittorrent first came on the scene and everyone said it'd fade away just like everything else, and I argued that it wouldn't because it was open source, totally decentralized, and so well-designed that it was safe from a lot of the common exploits you saw on p2p networks
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[00:31:34] <zelrik> hi
[00:31:47] <Aliks> robdubya: I see
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[00:32:09] <robdubya> Aliks it seems like you're thinking in directives, whereas what you shold be thinking baout (imo) is models
[00:32:19] <robdubya> a "Query" is a thing
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[00:32:29] <robdubya> a model, an instance, an object, a foo, etc
[00:32:42] <davek> jaawerth, tell me if you end up playing around with it, I'd be interested to see what you do.
[00:32:43] <Aliks> yeah I understand
[00:32:50] <robdubya> treat it with the respect it deserves. a directive should just be the interface to messing with it
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[00:33:07] <Aliks> partly due to converting a legacy codebase to Angular
[00:33:12] <Aliks> which already has this way of looking at things
[00:33:34] <jaawerth> Will do! It's one of those "project ideas I hope to do if I'm ever not behind on actual work projects" things, so I don't know when I'll get around to it, but I'd really like to, especially since I don't think it's been tried yet for that purpose
[00:34:03] <robdubya> you could probably do it in a webworker or something too jaawerth
[00:34:11] <robdubya> though fucked if i know how
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[00:35:15] <jaawerth> hmm... yeah the extra work necessary for checksums and such might require a webworker
[00:35:54] <jaawerth> the only really limiting thing I've encountered when playing with webworkers thus far is that you can't just pass references because of how sandboxed they are. You actually have to serialize/deserialize the data again
[00:35:55] <zelrik> evening
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[00:36:02] <jaawerth> to pass between the web worker and the main process
[00:36:04] <robdubya> yea
[00:36:28] <jaawerth> which isn't a HUGE deal, just a bit of a drag if you're trying to use webworkers to improve performance
[00:36:57] <davek> WebWorkers are my jam!
[00:37:01] <snapwich> you could use references with shared web workers i think
[00:37:16] <jaawerth> even between the workers and the main process?
[00:37:23] <jaawerth> or just between the various workers?
[00:37:26] <snapwich> both
[00:37:28] <davek> Nope, no native data marshaling.
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[00:38:22] <gnarMatix> If you guys get an injector error, does the error log as "Uncaught object" ? For me it always logs as "Uncaught object" and I need to debug to find the actual message. (using Chrome OSX)
[00:38:30] <davek> gnarMatix, that's a bug.
[00:38:35] <jaawerth> a Chrome bug
[00:38:37] <davek> In Chrome specifcially.
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[00:38:44] <gnarMatix> known bug?
[00:38:45] <jaawerth> which they really need to fix because it makes me cry
[00:38:52] <gnarMatix> yah it drives me insane
[00:38:59] <gnarMatix> at least i know how to view the actual error now
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[00:39:08] <gnarMatix> before it was a bitch finding out what the injector error was
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[00:40:29] <Fishy> Does getters/setters in a service make sense?
[00:40:47] <robdubya> Fishy depends
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[00:41:04] <robdubya> usually its overkill but if you're trying to protect a prperty, sure
[00:41:09] <Fishy> robdubya: thats good enough for a yes to me
[00:41:33] <jaawerth> ehhh
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[00:42:04] <robdubya> i shouldreally say "depends but you probably dont need them"
[00:42:04] <robdubya> since you could just bind directly
[00:42:42] <jaawerth> It's a trade-off, really. getters and setters certainly protect a property from accidental changes, but they come at the cost of 1) performance, and 2) yet another thing you have to update before your data binding kicks in. I can see the argument both ways.
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[00:43:10] <robdubya> if you write a proper OO service, and do Object.addProperty, then yeah, its probably good
[00:43:12] <jaawerth> Also, if your getter is returning an object reference you could still accidentally overwrite the original data
[00:43:18] <robdubya> if you're doing this.setSomeBullshit
[00:43:21] <robdubya> not so much
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[00:44:04] <davek> Awesome to read.
[00:44:06] <Fishy> well im assuming the real issue here is i dont know how to properly use a service
[00:44:22] <robdubya> davek remarkably readable
[00:44:27] <jaawerth> hmm, looks like shared webworkers just mean you can have multiple connections, but they still use the same "message" interface. Oh well
[00:45:14] <robdubya> Most of you have never heard of Energy Future Holdings. Consider yourselves lucky; I certainly wish I
[00:45:14] <robdubya> hadn’t. The company was formed in 2007 to effect a giant leveraged buyout of electric utility assets in Texas. The
[00:45:14] <robdubya> equity owners put up $8 billion and borrowed a massive amount in addition. About $2 billion of the debt was
[00:45:14] <robdubya> purchased by Berkshire, pursuant to a decision I made without consulting with Charlie. That was a big mistake.
[00:45:15] <robdubya> Unless natural gas prices soar, EFH will almost certainly file for bankruptcy in 2014. Last year, we sold
[00:45:15] <robdubya> our holdings for $259 million. While owning the bonds, we received $837 million in cash interest. Overall,
[00:45:15] <robdubya> therefore, we suffered a pre-tax loss of $873 million. Next time I’ll call Charlie.
[00:45:18] <robdubya> ah fuck
[00:45:19] <robdubya> sorry
[00:45:27] <jaawerth> oooh party foul
[00:45:40] <davek> Yeah, webworkers are exclusively message-based. The reason being that they're meant to be executed in separate VM instance that is insulated from the main process.
[00:45:45] <Fishy> robdubya: you have an example of a proper service? Im trying to store UserProfile information..
[00:46:00] <jaawerth> davek: makes sense (otherwise there'd be huge security issues)
[00:46:10] <robdubya> Fishy getting it from an API?
[00:46:23] <davek> robdubya, really cool excerpt though.
[00:46:28] <davek> I'd trust the guy with my money, no doubt.
[00:46:45] <davek> I have like two shares of Berkshire B because, y'know, I'm not a fucking millionaire.
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[00:47:01] <jaawerth> robdubya: well do you just get it form the API and put it right on the scope, or do you get it from the API, store/cache it in a service, and THEN put it on scope?
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[00:47:15] <robdubya> jaawerth the latter.
[00:47:18] <jaawerth> I typically start out just grabbing it from the API but ultimately I prefer to cache
[00:47:22] <Fishy> robdubya: yeah
[00:47:24] <davek> jaawerth, there's that to some extent but mostly it's to prevent web developers from crashing the internet with deadlocks.
[00:47:34] <robdubya> declare a user object, *merge* the response in, same-reference-goodness
[00:47:37] <davek> If there's one thing web developers suck at, it's thread concurrency.
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[00:47:48] <jaawerth> hahaha
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[00:48:09] <Fishy> robdubya: several API calls update the user information.. i have it working.. but it doesnt make much sense
[00:48:11] <jaawerth> well now that web development is more and more resembling regular programming, I'm sure we'll be seeing more and more crazy issues
[00:49:07] <gnarMatix> If I have 2 js files (a.js & b.js). a.js is part of angular.module('A') and b.js declares angular.module('A', []) .. Even though a.js is loaded first, it shouldn't be an issue, correct?
[00:49:09] <davek> Man if web developers ever get ahold of threads/mutexes we're going to be fucked.
[00:49:18] <gnarMatix> (a.js is loaded firs tbecause it comes first alphabetically.)
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[00:49:54] <jaawerth> Fishy: the main thing to keep in mind when storing data in a service is not to store any primitives right on the service (MyService.foo) if you want to be able to pass the reference around and take advantage of databinding
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[00:50:20] <jaawerth> everything else is pretty much just a matter of style and preference
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[00:50:54] <jaawerth> I mean I guess you could use primitives if you're putting getters and setters everywhere
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[00:51:10] <davek> USE PROXY OBJECTS
[00:51:22] <davek> Stand on the bleeding edge and stare into the abyss.
[00:52:36] <robdubya> omg proxies are my new favorite thing
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[00:52:58] <jaawerth> haha
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[00:53:39] <jaawerth> isn't that kind of what you're doing with javascript objects in the first place?
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[00:53:48] <jaawerth> particularly if you're trying to protect variables with _ and whatever
[00:53:51] <jaawerth> er, properties that is
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[00:54:10] <robdubya> jaawerth yeah, though you can do cool things (i'm working out undo-tracking right now in models, for example)
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[00:54:38] <jaawerth> that IS a cool idea, and it'd be good to have a pattern for doing this that's based on a real standard
[00:54:51] <Fishy> robdubya: very nice
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[00:55:21] <davek> robdubya, undo tracking like you proxy the properties and aggregate modifications as the setters are invoked?
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[00:56:45] <jaawerth> I don't mind setters, I just feel like getters are an unnecessary step in javascript, particularly since they often give false security
[00:57:06] <Fishy> robdubya: what if i wanted to update the user name later.. make a function updateName(val){_user=val}?
[00:57:13] <robdubya> davek yeah, like that
[00:57:18] <robdubya> Fishy no
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[00:57:27] <davek> Cool idea for reals. This for waterline?
[00:57:27] <robdubya> $scope.user = Auth.user
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[00:57:39] <robdubya> ng-model="user.username"
[00:57:40] <davek> Oh wait undo tracking, I was just thinking for tracking model changes for some reason.
[00:57:49] <robdubya> davek really both
[00:57:52] <davek> Which may also be cool now that I think about it.
[00:57:57] <jaawerth> ooh I think it's time to bring out my favorite plunk again
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[00:57:59] <davek> Next generation of JS orms is going to be awesome
[00:58:11] <robdubya> this is for NgCoreData (my nextgen angular data thingr)
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[00:58:30] <robdubya> ha, exactly
[00:58:35] <jaawerth> orms still make me nervous
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[00:59:13] <robdubya> jaawerth agreed, but mine's not going to suck, so there's that
[00:59:42] <jaawerth> from what I've read it's led to sloppy work like devs forgetting or not bothering to set their specific database indexes, or when setting indexes not keeping in mind the downside to too many indexes
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[01:00:17] <robdubya> davek i'm just wholesale cloning CoreData from iOS. in JS.
[01:00:18] <jaawerth> robdubya: yeah, there's also the problem with having to trust the ORM, but even with a good ORM there's still the human element you have to worry about
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[01:00:40] <robdubya> jaawerth yeah. i've decided i'll let other people deal with the server side ones
[01:00:50] <jaawerth> haha good call
[01:00:55] <robdubya> (though in theory my new one runs both sides)
[01:01:06] <davek> Hey who was that guy working on the alternative to angular batarang?
[01:01:11] <robdubya> uses the adapter concept (CoreData calls them PersistentStores)
[01:01:20] <robdubya> rev087 davek
[01:01:28] <davek> Did he finish the chrome version?
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[01:01:40] <davek> Or rather do you remember what it was called so I can give a check?
[01:01:40] <jaawerth> oh, that's good to hear. Batarang not being updated in a year makes me sad
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[01:02:51] <snapwich> not really a batarang replacement. only does scope inspection
[01:02:52] <robdubya> its pretty much the perfect thing for people who dont understand what a cope is
[01:03:01] <robdubya> scope, even
[01:03:22] <davek> snapwich which is all I ever use batarang for.
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[01:03:40] <davek> Not like it provides any other useful tools besides the scope hierarchy view which is kinda bunk.
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[01:03:48] <robdubya> and is the one thing its not super super good at
[01:04:03] <snapwich> it had some helpful tools. i think most of them are broken now though
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[01:04:12] <jaawerth> IIRC there are a couple of other usinge things batarang does that ng-inspector doesn't do yet, but I can't remember
[01:04:23] <snapwich> well there's the profiler
[01:04:28] <robdubya> some talk of them being merged iirc
[01:04:30] <jaawerth> yeah, that's nice to have
[01:04:37] <jaawerth> good! that's what I like to hear
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[01:04:50] <robdubya> ditto for ng-annotate / ng-min
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[01:05:07] <jaawerth> abandoned projects make me sad. Like, the Exchange Calendar Providoer plugin for Thunderbird has now been abandoned, picked up by another dev, and abandoned again
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[01:05:37] <davek> Wish we could get some goddamn consolidation for JS libs.
[01:05:55] <robdubya> Fishy ?
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[01:06:23] <Fishy> robdubya: did i do it right? updated the user.name
[01:06:28] <davek> We have the equivalent of a bag full of variously colored hammers which are perfect unless you need a screwdriver.
[01:06:31] <Fishy> in second controller
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[01:07:01] <robdubya> Fishy looks right to me.
[01:07:10] <robdubya> (unless, obviously you need to hit the API first)
[01:07:33] <robdubya> davek i'm hoping the ES6 transition will make that happen
[01:07:38] <robdubya> its open-season
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[01:08:03] <robdubya> Evanion ng-switch
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[01:08:33] <wafflejock> davek: yeah I mean it's good and bad but evolution will run it's course and then we'll hopefully just have the best of everything
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[01:08:34] <robdubya> motherfucker, i didnt know there was already a ui-kit
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[01:08:57] <jaawerth> davek: well there IS a screw driver but the screwdriver doesn't have many stars or commits yet and it was written by some dude with a weird goatee
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[01:09:17] <robdubya> speaking of goatees, i had a haircut last week after a year
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[01:09:28] <davek> Who provides no documentation and responds to issues with hostility.
[01:09:29] <Evanion> the functionality lets the user unmask the password that they have typed … making it with ng-switch would require a lot of custom code :/
[01:09:35] <robdubya> its amazing not looking like a bum. people actually talk to you
[01:09:53] <wafflejock> robdubya: and that's why I keep looking like a bum :)
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[01:10:14] <Evanion> robdubya: UIkit is a great framework .. their grid system is awesome
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[01:11:45] <jaawerth> robdubya: a year? impressive!
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[01:13:12] <davek> I'm waiting on ES6 like robdubya mentioned, a solid WebCL implementation and the proliferation of websockets to herald the next age of the web.
[01:13:47] <robdubya> Evanion behold the awesome power of angular
[01:13:50] <jaawerth> yeah, most grid systems make me want to die from looking at a bajillion nested divs in markup
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[01:14:41] <TheAceOfHearts> Foxandxss: I'm gonna give toastr a try
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[01:15:33] <robdubya> Evanion that's sort of a crap UI example, but that's how you'd do it
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[01:15:42] <Evanion> Thanks … hmmm — ok, now to style that to fit with uikit …
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<jaawerth> I've decided to write up an implementation of http://framelessgrid.com/ in SASS so I can get all my grid stuff out of my markup
[01:16:01] <Evanion> yea I will need to make some changes
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[01:16:51] <robdubya> Evanion well, you do have to do some of your own work, yes
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[01:17:10] <Evanion> I have a large project going in Angular… coincidently … it’s also the first project in Angular … but I’m loving it
[01:17:14] <robdubya> you'd probably be better moving the template into a seperate file
[01:17:28] <robdubya> (vs a loooong string)
[01:17:28] <robdubya> and using templateUrl
[01:17:46] <Evanion> robdubya: I’m not stranger to doing legwork :)
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[01:18:06] <robdubya> or i guess maybe you could just toggle the type...
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[01:18:09] <robdubya> i wonder if that works
[01:18:20] <Evanion> no .. angular seems to block it
[01:18:44] <Evanion> just because “#€%&/( IE “#€% compatability...
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[01:19:38] <robdubya> or perhaps set it inside the directive
[01:19:42] <robdubya> is that a DOM prop?
[01:19:45] <robdubya> dunno
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[01:28:02] <Evanion> bummer .. my programmer is already using ng-model for the input field … That would require me to duplicate the directive for each filed i want to use it with ….
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[01:43:06] <davek> Came across an "Islamic Index Fund" and wondered what the hell it was. Pretty interesting.
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[01:43:20] <zchrykng> Ok... so how would I attach the data from $http to my $scope? How I have done it before is use the success callback to set it $scope.param = data; Is there a better way to do that?
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[01:47:35] <robdubya> davek yeah, its kinda interesting
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[01:48:49] <robdubya> as a militant atheist theres a lot of very interesting concepts in islam. its quite a pragmatic religion, despite the interpretations of some
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[01:50:21] <wafflejock> davek: yeah I was actually "raised islamic" but stopped participating when I was in like 3rd grade but I do vaguley recall this concept of not making money off of lent money but never seen "Islamic Banking"
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[01:55:03] <styles> Hey guys I have a controller to interact with a model. Within the controller scope, I'd like another one for dealing with tabs (selecting etc..) I've set ng-controller="TabController as tabCtrl" but it seems that it breaks?
[01:55:03] <wafflejock> when I was getting into college and exploring a bit more about religious beliefs I really liked most of the buddhist ideas the most I think but I think for every major religion there's a reason it's still a major religion (not to say it's all truth since there's so much contradiction, but there's some value in all of them, and kooks everywhere)
[01:55:17] <styles> How are you supposed to nest controllers? Or if I'm using it wrong, what do I do about services?
[01:55:22] <styles> do about tabs*,
[01:55:25] <Fishy> robdubya: im going to get this to work sooner or later
[01:55:28] <wafflejock> styles: shouldn't be a problem nesting controllers
[01:55:42] <styles> wafflejock, ok
[01:55:43] <robdubya> this is quite interesting
[01:56:03] <robdubya> styles you should check out using ui-router
[01:56:22] <robdubya> and switching out views with tabbed navs
[01:56:35] <robdubya> (vs switching out tab-panes)
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[01:57:14] <davek> wafflejock, nice world view. I certainly agree.
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[01:59:22] <Fishy> robdubya: so im guessing the trick is not having _user null to start with and using extend? instead of just _user = object
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[02:11:31] <Limix> Hi, wondering if anyone has played around with Meteorjs, is it wrong to ask about such things here? Would love to get insight into it from an Angular perspective
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[02:18:55] <styles> robdubya, im not using their router
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[02:19:07] <TheAceOfHearts> Limix: AngularJS requires you to drink the koolaid, but Meteor takes you all in. You don't just drink the koolaid, you chug down the whole bowl.
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[02:19:18] <zelrik> lool
[02:19:19] <TheAceOfHearts> basically, it requires a lot of buy in from your whole ifnrastructure, from what I can tell
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[02:19:27] <TheAceOfHearts> at least angular is backend agnostic
[02:19:28] <styles> Any idea why angular would not run (ng-init etc.. but also not show errors) ?
[02:19:33] <zelrik> meteorJS is not used a lot from what I just saw
[02:19:34] <robdubya> styles you should be
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[02:19:55] <robdubya> TheAceOfHearts that's a fair statement i reckon
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[02:19:58] <ngbot> angular.js/master 0113f22 Igor Minar: fix(csp): fix autodetection of CSP + better docs...
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[02:20:07] <TheAceOfHearts> :P
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[02:21:52] <Pookz> Can I use ng-class and class attributes on the same element at the same time?
[02:21:55] <robdubya> davek that report is really really interesting
[02:22:14] <zelrik> Pookz, you can
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[02:22:25] <zelrik> best way is to see for yourself :)
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[02:28:15] <davek> robdubya, it is a nice analysis but I take issue with judging his performance based on some poorly written attempts to inspire the troops. Though holy hell that was a lot of hand waving.
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[02:29:09] <Limix> thanks all
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[02:31:30] <robdubya> davek the meeting looks like it'd be fun tho
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[02:32:49] <styles> robdubya, what?
[02:32:51] <styles> I should be what
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[02:33:01] <robdubya> styles using ui-router
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[02:33:48] <styles> I don't need ths
[02:33:51] <styles> its overkill
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[02:34:12] <styles> <section class="overview overview2" ng-controller="PropertyController as propCtrl" ng-init="propCtrl.getProperty(<?=$id?>)">
[02:34:26] <styles> Is there any reason why propCtrl.getProperty(id) isn't going to run here?
[02:34:32] <styles> It worked before I added in the "as" statement
[02:34:36] <styles> No errors though just doesn't run
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[02:35:27] <zelrik> why ng-init?
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[02:35:44] <styles> So I know what the id of the model is
[02:35:48] <zelrik> also what's <?=$id?>
[02:35:50] <styles> for this page that it's interacting with
[02:35:53] <styles> it's an id from PHP
[02:36:17] <styles> We're not using Angular for routing etc.. just it's controller / services / directives functionallity and formatting
[02:36:19] <zelrik> you are using php, no more help for you :D
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[02:38:51] <spaceonline> how to set selected in option ?
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[02:39:13] <niall_obrien> Hi all
[02:39:49] <zelrik> spaceonline, use ng-model
[02:39:50] <spaceonline> example option to selected ?
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[02:39:55] <zelrik> on the select
[02:40:46] <zelrik> spaceonline, use ng-option
[02:40:55] <styles> thanks zelrik your an upstanding guy
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[02:41:06] <zelrik> the <option> tag is kinda screwed by angularJS
[02:41:16] <zelrik> I mean the vanilla option tag
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[02:42:03] <zelrik> styles, you're welcomed :)
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[02:42:48] <zelrik> styles, if you show me a plnkr that doesnt involve php, maybe I can have a look at it
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[02:44:13] <zelrik> spaceonline, maybe I can find you an example that works
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[02:44:29] <spaceonline> ok
[02:44:31] <spaceonline> tks
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[02:45:30] <davek> Damn, the ishares site looks nice these days.
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[02:48:52] <styles> this replicates the error
[02:48:55] <styles> no error, but nothing working
[02:49:26] <robdubya> styles no ng-app
[02:49:34] <styles> ok fair point I forgot that 1 sec
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[02:50:08] <styles> there you go, still prime example
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[02:50:19] <styles> propertyId is set to 0 so it SHOULD show that .. but you'll notice init never even runs
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[02:51:00] <spaceonline> not understand
[02:51:20] <robdubya> styles you're mixing up syntaxes
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[02:52:22] <robdubya> controllerAs ctrl -> this.foobar -> {{ ctrl.foobar }}
[02:52:25] <Absolute0> anyway I can do ng-model="mymodel.{{field}}" inside of ng-repeat?
[02:52:32] <robdubya> $scope.foobar -> {{ foobar}}
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<ngbot> [angular.js] vojtajina merged travis-jqlite-iframe-test-timeout into master: http://git.io/xeqpCQ
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[02:53:03] <styles> Ok
[02:53:09] <styles> So what's the difference in this. and $scope.
[02:53:11] <styles> I don't get that
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[02:54:24] <styles> why is $scope.propertId = 0; fixing it
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[02:55:00] <spaceonline> not solved
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[02:55:31] <robdubya> if you use controllerAs syntax, the idea is you dont use $scope
[02:55:40] <robdubya> you use this
[02:55:42] <zelrik> using this. in a controller is a bit unusual
[02:55:46] <zelrik> for me at least
[02:55:50] <spaceonline> ok
[02:56:01] <robdubya> zelrik its the controllerAs syntax
[02:56:09] <styles> zelrik, that wont work for my needs
[02:56:12] <robdubya> either way is fine, just one or the other
[02:56:31] <zelrik> robdubya, yeah I dont understand it, it s odd
[02:56:41] <zelrik> styles, why not
[02:56:57] <styles> zelrik, because in this instance I'm going to have 5 tabs nested basically
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[02:57:09] <styles> So I want tab1, tab2 etc
[02:57:13] <zelrik> yeah
[02:57:16] <zelrik> so what
[02:57:41] <zelrik> hold on let me look at the plnkr again
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[02:58:07] <mikehaas763> We've got a standalone angular web app repo, and a separate repo with the backend api. Just looking for pointers as to how to make the process seamless or automated for a developer to be able to just checkout the frontend repo and have a working backend for it to communicate with
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[02:58:35] <zelrik> styles, so you a ng-repeat or so
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[02:58:45] <zelrik> and init with $index
[02:59:05] <robdubya> mikehaas763 you run a sandbox/demo/test server?
[02:59:18] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: it really depends on exactly what you want, do you want the server side code to be run on the developers machine or for them to actually share a deployed backend?
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[02:59:25] <mikehaas763> Well, I'm hoping to keep that local also
[02:59:34] <robdubya> typically i just have a enviroment module, which has some constants
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[02:59:54] <robdubya> the enviroment module gets switched out dependent on the ... enviroment
[02:59:58] <mikehaas763> I've done some really custom stuff in the past with git hooks etc, just wondering if anyone has a better solution
[03:00:16] <robdubya> mikehaas763 DI is really good for this
[03:00:22] <robdubya> its kind of the point of DI, actually
[03:00:39] <mikehaas763> DI as in dependency injection?
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[03:00:56] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: you might want to check out vagrant if your privvy to the idea of setting up a VM container that runs the server side code and making it so everyone gets the same server configuration
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[03:01:39] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: if everyone working on the project already has the server side components necessary generally I've just kept my server side code in the same repo alongside the app code
[03:01:40] <mikehaas763> wafflejock: Ya we actually use vagrant, I guess I could configure the provisioning to just go clone the api repo and spin it up
[03:02:21] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: yeah that's how it's done on a project I'm on now and it works pretty well
[03:03:10] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: we just had to clone the repo, run vagrant up, wait for a bit and pretty much (couple steps here to update composer dependencies, probably could be automated) everything up and running
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[03:04:06] <mikehaas763> wafflejock: in practice would devs actually clone that api repo separately to work on it
[03:04:07] <mikehaas763> ?
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[03:04:31] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: the project I'm on with vagrant and in my own projects it's all bundled in 1 repo
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[03:04:57] <wafflejock> I have thought about splitting it up and doing git modules or something like that but haven't done it yet and haven't really had the need
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[03:05:19] <wafflejock> I think it depends on how well your API can standalone to some degree and how much it is just designed for the ui your building
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[03:05:24] <zelrik> I wonder if I should learn some php
[03:05:30] <zelrik> just to see how it looks
[03:05:38] <wafflejock> zelrik: it's ugly I won't lie :P
[03:05:46] <zelrik> I have done some
[03:05:52] <wafflejock> I like Slim PHP though and eloquent is pretty nice
[03:05:53] <zelrik> but nothing really advanced
[03:05:57] <wafflejock> haven't messed with laravel
[03:06:05] <mikehaas763> zelrik: learn it and realize the only time it's the right tool for the job is when a shop only has access to php devs
[03:06:09] <Absolute0> If I will have 1000+ records in my db, will angular be able to generate a table quickly representing that table using ng-repeat?
[03:06:36] <robdubya> Absolute0 yes
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[03:06:52] <Absolute0> does it concat strings underneath?
[03:06:59] <robdubya> how performant that will be depends on a lot of factors
[03:07:02] <zelrik> I have heard php is quite faster than RoR though mikehaas763
[03:07:16] <robdubya> so you're probably better loading 1k and only dispalying 100 at a time
[03:07:34] <mikehaas763> zelrik: execution speed? doubtful. They both suck at performance and require caching layers, etc
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[03:07:59] <zelrik> mikehaas763, what a performant backend then
[03:08:06] <wafflejock> zelrik: it's almost always a matter of how you use a language when it comes to speed.... PHP is written in C so it's pretty performant and if you do everything right you can make it fast
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[03:08:20] <wafflejock> zelrik: but it has to spin up the interpreter every time
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[03:08:33] <wafflejock> zelrik: Java is persistent which can be good when you need to keep re-using data in memory
[03:08:55] <zelrik> java code looks like hell though
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[03:09:06] <mikehaas763> wafflejock: I don't know of any descent fairly commonly used languages whose runtimes are not written in C
[03:09:16] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: I thought about that after I wrote it :P
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[03:09:34] <wafflejock> but just sayin it's not running through a VM
[03:09:48] <mikehaas763> java code looks a lot better than php. You're probably referring to its strictly typed nature
[03:09:58] <wafflejock> yeah I agree with mikehaas763 here too
[03:10:45] <wafflejock> Java is pretty great if you like OOP but I've just had to fight with Tomcat so much, and PHP is just easier to deal with unless you need something that requires WebSphere or some other kind of mass distribution
[03:11:12] <wafflejock> and just haven't dug into Node yet so can't really speak to that
[03:11:30] <mikehaas763> wafflejock: Lately I've been using play framework and spring frameworks built in abilities to build themselves as a standalone executable with the server embedded. It's made things much easier
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[03:12:01] <zelrik> I like RoR so far
[03:12:11] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: interesting, don't think I've ever heard of that... but I had pains in Eclipse with Tomcat bombing in there and needing to clean things up "manually" all the time
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[03:12:16] <zelrik> sometimes the asset pipeline does its own thing though...
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[03:12:59] <zelrik> I liked C# too, it was more verbose though
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[03:13:28] <wafflejock> mikehaas763: I used Spring a fair amount too never checked out the play framework though
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[03:13:37] <mikehaas763> zelrik: That verbosity generally means a more stable codebase though
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[03:14:11] <mikehaas763> I generally prefer to keep hard business rules and domain logic in a strictly typed language like java, c# etc.
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[03:15:28] <zelrik> I wanna learn more C# if I have the opportunity
[03:15:29] <robdubya> that makes it more "enterprise"
[03:15:34] <robdubya> (whatever that means)
[03:15:43] <wafflejock> well everything needs tests
[03:15:43] <mikehaas763> robdubya: It makes it more stable is what it does
[03:15:48] <wafflejock> I do like strong typing though
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[03:16:02] <wafflejock> well I'm mixed on that
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[03:16:09] <wafflejock> I like the option
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[03:16:45] <mikehaas763> I'm actually really excited for Dart to pick up momentum for backend development
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[03:17:28] <robdubya> yeah, i love me some dart
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[03:17:52] <robdubya> futures, futures as far as the eye can see
[03:17:57] <robdubya> its like node for people who like promises
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[03:18:26] <mikehaas763> futures, the term used before promises became popular lol
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[03:18:41] <mikehaas763> I can't remember when but java has had the futures library for a very long time now
[03:19:53] <zelrik> The thing about C# is that it means .NET
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[03:23:27] <wafflejock> yeah I generally stay away from that
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[03:24:21] <zelrik> I wonder about python frameworks
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[03:33:01] <zelrik> wafflejock, I dont know 10% of those :p
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[03:33:21] <wafflejock> zelrik: me neither I don't think anyone does
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[03:33:42] <wafflejock> zelrik: but if you're looking for performance comparison of a bunch of languages and frameworks that's the best I've seen
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[03:45:25] <wafflejock> They say PHP runs 35% of the internet which is probably true given WordPress accounts for something like 22% of sites (assuming they are both looking at top 10 million sites)
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[03:46:11] <wafflejock> there are a lot of existing things you can build on top of or integrate with using PHP but it was definitely used to write a lot of view code which I'm pretty against at this point (not saying I never did it)
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[03:46:58] <elnur> Does anybody know of a node package that would allow me to set expections on its API so that I could verify that Angular does the right API calls?
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[03:47:33] <davek> Wha?
[03:47:44] <davek> You can mock the $httpBackend like Angular suggests.
[03:47:54] <elnur> Yea, but that approach sucks balls.
[03:48:07] <davek> No, your approach sucks balls. You're sending actual requests to the back end just to check that they get there.
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[03:48:13] <davek> What are you testing, that HTTP still works?
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[03:48:35] <elnur> I'm talking about Protractor tests here.
[03:48:55] <elnur> I test that my client-side app written in ng does the right calls to the API.
[03:48:56] <davek> As am I.
[03:49:13] <elnur> I'd like to isolate from the real API that's written in Java.
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[03:49:20] <davek> Yes, by using $httpBackend.
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[03:49:54] <elnur> Testing against a real API is not a good idea because I can't force particular responses like failing ones.
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[03:50:22] <elnur> To mock $httpBackend in Protractor tests I have to create a module that executes in the browser.
[03:50:27] <elnur> That's a shitty indirection.
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[03:50:43] <elnur> Also, I can't respond() on expect*() methods.
[03:51:02] <elnur> Basically, I have to do something like this:
[03:51:02] <elnur> $httpBackend.expectGET(partnersUrl);
[03:51:03] <elnur> $httpBackend.whenGET(partnersUrl).respond({});
[03:51:17] <elnur> Because `$httpBackend.expectGET(partnersUrl).respond({});` doesn't work.
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[03:52:13] <elnur> I've managed it to work, but I think the approach is stupid and there is a room for improvement.
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[03:52:23] <davek> elnur what indirection? It's called mocking.
[03:52:31] <elnur> Thanks, cap.
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[03:53:13] <davek> There's always room for improvement. What you seem to be suggesting is simply mocking in the same way but on the back end, which does nothing but introduce a performance cost.
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[03:53:19] <elnur> For instance, I can't pass a variable to the mock I create with browser.addMockModule() because that mock module runs in another dimension.
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[03:53:33] <elnur> Protractor runs on Node, doesn't it?
[03:53:38] <davek> Why do you need to pass anything to your tests?
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[03:54:12] <elnur> Let's say I want to define a variable/constant for all tests in one test case.
[03:54:17] <elnur> I can't do that with the current approach.
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[03:54:28] <davek> Yes you can, just define it in the suite block.
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[03:54:47] <elnur> You can't pass it to the code running in the browser. (facepalm)
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[03:55:08] <elnur> Do you know how browser.addMockModule() works?
[03:55:17] <elnur> It passes that code to the browser and runs it there.
[03:55:30] <elnur> I'll repeat: that code runs in another dimension.
[03:55:46] <elnur> Your test code itself runs in one process, while the mocks run in another process.
[03:55:55] <elnur> Two separate dimensions that have no direct connection.
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[03:58:04] <elnur> Since Protractor itself is a Node.js program, it makes sense to define a fake API in Node.js and set expectations on it.
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[03:58:18] <davek> No it's very much the same dimension it just doesn't share a lexical scope. The code is stringified and then evaluated. Don't know how this applies to needing to pass information to your tests.
[03:58:24] <elnur> The problem is I couldn't find a Node.js library for that yet.
[03:58:42] <davek> It really doesn't. That's the purpose of backend mocking...
[03:58:44] <elnur> Have you actually try doing that yourself?
[03:58:59] <davek> What using addMockModule?
[03:59:13] <elnur> What happens if you change a variable defined in your test inside your mock module function?
[03:59:18] <elnur> Passing variables.
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[04:00:21] <elnur> This two-dimensional approach sucks balls, like I said earlier.
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[04:00:49] <davek> elnur, you can't... they have separate scopes.
[04:00:56] <elnur> O'rly?
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[04:02:21] <elnur> Since the code is stringified and passed to WebDriverJS to be executed in the browser, that's some loose code that you can't do nothing about.
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[04:03:02] <elnur> I can create a fake API in Node.js. My only concern is how I verify that everything that all the right requests happened.
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[04:03:05] <davek> Yes, and you shouldn't need to. For the same reason your actual API and client are separated.
[04:03:16] <elnur> Right.
[04:03:27] <elnur> I bet you were happy with ng scenarios before protractor even existed.
[04:03:31] <elnur> I wasn't.
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[04:03:55] <elnur> I'm happy with Protractor itself now, because it makes perfect sense to use Selenium for this stuff. Now what's left is decent mocking of the backend.
[04:04:29] <davek> Tell me, at what point do you think your patronizing bullshit and childish sarcasm will attract the help you're looking for?
[04:05:11] <elnur> At a point you stop thinking you're the smartest ass in the world and starting with agressive remarks right away because of that.
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[04:08:09] <rbs> is there a default websocket package for angularjs?
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[04:09:41] <elnur> rbs, have you looked at socket.io and ng modules that integrate with it?
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[04:11:21] <elnur> Still need to investigate deeper.
[04:12:46] <optikalmouse> if I'm getting a multiple directive resource contention, how do I find the directives that are causing this?
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[04:12:50] <davek> rbs, not by default but there are a number of modules that wrap different implementations. What are you looking to do with it?
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[04:14:17] <rbs> davek for now, studying....
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[04:16:06] <rbs> davek, but I'm thinking about implement a chat, for support inside my application...and on future, maybe replace ajax, not sure if this is good yet... need to study more.
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[04:16:46] <davek> Yes, realtime chat is a common application of websockets and there are a number of existing implementations available for angular.
[04:17:00] <davek> Significant advantages over AJAX for that purpose.
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[04:17:48] <davek> Also socket.io can use AJAX long polling as a fallback anyway, so you can introduce the new feature without eliminating the old method.
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[04:19:00] <rbs> davek, I have an application, currently written using ajax is it a good idea, use websocket for management, like customers, reports, etc.etc.
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[04:21:44] <davek> It's neither good nor bad. If your client needs realtime updates on those resources then websockets are the way to go.
[04:22:09] <davek> Evented socket-based client side modeling is gaining a lot of popularity these days.
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[04:24:12] <rbs> davek, I see, like, supposing, you have 2 users logged on the system, they share customers (same company), if 1 user change a customer profile, I can simply fire an event and update the customerprofile on the other user screen, for example.
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[04:24:40] <rbs> davek, or if you have a counter, that shows, logged users for example, 1 user log, i can increment and event the new count, user logout decrement and etc.
[04:24:42] <rbs> nice stuff
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[04:25:34] <davek> rbs, yeah.
[04:25:45] <nuizzy> rbs: socket.io with node and express is pretty simple
[04:25:50] <rbs> davek, suppose I run the websocket on port 8080 and my user does not have access to port 8080, i mean, suppose he is accessing my server from his company, and his company closed their firewall, denying outbound to port 8080, will websockets work?
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[04:26:21] <nuizzy> if he can not connect to the port no
[04:26:25] <nuizzy> it will not work
[04:26:42] <rbs> any workaround?
[04:26:46] <nuizzy> socket.io needs to not only connect but also handshake and upgrade the connection
[04:26:54] <nuizzy> or fallback to ajax
[04:27:06] <rbs> :(
[04:27:09] <davek> rbs, yes.
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[04:28:50] <davek> socket.io 1.0 uses connection upgrading instead of downgrading and has a number of fallback solutions to handle when clients cannot connect via sockets.
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[04:29:47] <davek> Oh sorry I failed to read all of that, no if he's prevented from sending requests to 8080 then there's no way.
[04:29:51] <davek> That's an internal issue though.
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[04:30:12] <nuizzy> yea
[04:30:19] <nuizzy> ask thiier IT to open the port
[04:30:23] <nuizzy> thats about all you can do
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[04:31:30] <nuizzy> maybe webrtc data channels would be interesting if your application is just for one client
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[04:31:54] <nuizzy> but the front end of your app still needs to connect
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[04:45:21] <davek> Of all the things in angular I think file uploading has given me the most grief...
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[05:01:45] <wafflejock> I think other peoples egregious use of jQuery has been the worst part for me
[05:01:53] <TheAceOfHearts> hahaha
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[05:23:14] <zumba_addict> oh thanks wafflejock
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[05:23:23] <zumba_addict> when I did i18n on BackboneJS, what I was changing are the text from one language to another one
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[05:25:03] <zumba_addict> wafflejock: will it work if the values I'm actually displaying are inches and not currency?
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[05:28:44] <zumba_addict> Just read that link. Found out that Angular will not convert a currency for us
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[05:29:41] <wafflejock> zumba_addict: yeah it's just formatting it's not looking up exchange rates
[05:29:46] <Cixis> how could it? exchange rates change
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[05:29:59] <zumba_addict> yup
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[05:30:20] <zumba_addict> looking now
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[05:34:12] <zumba_addict> i'm interested in showing a number like here in the US, we should 1,239 inches. If in Europe, my boss said that it will have a period
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[05:34:35] <zumba_addict> i'm interested in showing a number like here in the US, we should display 1,239 inches. But if in Europe, my boss said that it will have a period
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[05:50:24] <zumba_addict> hey guys, I added a Language in Chrome and made it the topmost from the list(default). However, $locale.id is still showing en-us. When I did this using i18n-next library, it will show the correct language in console. How do I trigger $locale.id?
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[06:03:21] <tysmith_> in the description for path, the example URL uses a backslash to escape the forward slash before edit
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[06:03:36] <tysmith_> can anyone tell me why?
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[06:04:21] <tysmith_> actually, wait, I can just show the thing
[06:04:26] <tysmith_> For example, routes like /color/:color/largecode/:largecode*\/edit will match /color/brown/largecode/code/with/slashes/edit and extract:
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[06:19:11] <davek> Anyone have some experience with ng-flow?
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[06:23:35] <TheAceOfHearts> of course
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[06:26:40] <tysmith_> hmm, alternatively, could anyone tell me if it's possible to have an optional named group ending with a star?
[06:27:01] <tysmith_> as in something using both the * and the ? characters
[06:27:14] <tysmith_> for $routeProvider
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[06:27:46] <narutimateum> guys suggest vps with 4gb ram under $33/mo
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[06:43:04] <wafflejock> narutimateum: nope where you see that price?
[06:43:11] <TheAceOfHearts> hollla holla make dolla yo
[06:43:31] <narutimateum> if i saw that price somewhere..i wouldnt have asked.. XD
[06:44:03] <narutimateum> yeap
[06:44:19] <narutimateum> client budget for server is 33 n below
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[06:44:33] <wafflejock> narutimateum: why 4GB of RAM?
[06:44:36] <TheAceOfHearts> we use AWS, according to my boss he knows a few founders that bought in heavily at DO at regretted it
[06:44:40] <davek> What a weird ass budget.
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[06:44:47] <narutimateum> ya cheapskate client
[06:44:47] <TheAceOfHearts> apparently they're not very reliable, idk
[06:44:51] <davek> AWS > DO all day.
[06:44:58] <narutimateum> gitlab used ginormous ram
[06:45:01] <wafflejock> yeah I've used AWS myself so far
[06:45:05] <davek> More reliable, better scaling, more configurable.
[06:45:09] <wafflejock> played with DO once but still prefer AWS
[06:45:18] <TheAceOfHearts> AWS just has a ton of services :P
[06:45:25] <davek> We're stuck on heroku until I can pay a dev ops guy to rewrite all my goddamn opsworks recipes.
[06:45:32] <wafflejock> was a pain to learn all the stupid AWS terms but it is better overall
[06:45:34] <TheAceOfHearts> lol
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[06:45:46] <TheAceOfHearts> AWS has too many parts that idk what they do
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[06:46:03] <TheAceOfHearts> we deploy out API on AWS, but our frontend console is deployed on Heroku lol
[06:46:05] <wafflejock> yeah was easy enough to expand a volume and switch instance types though
[06:46:16] <davek> I'm on Heroku atm as well, because it's training wheels.
[06:46:20] <davek> Really really fucking expensive training wheels.
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[06:46:32] <TheAceOfHearts> lol, Heroku is great
[06:46:37] <TheAceOfHearts> for simpler things
[06:46:39] <TheAceOfHearts> so good
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[06:46:59] <TheAceOfHearts> we spent a lot of money on AWS :(
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[06:47:11] <wafflejock> TheAceOfHearts: how'd that happen?
[06:47:27] <very_idea> Has there been any discussion for creating a central repository for angular modules where angular could automatically load dependencies from application variable definition?
[06:47:28] <TheAceOfHearts> what part? the lots of money in AWS? the Heroku for our console?
[06:47:36] <wafflejock> TheAceOfHearts: lots of money in AWS
[06:47:58] <TheAceOfHearts> wafflejock: we do big data and distributed systems. we have a LOT of servers for processing data :P
[06:48:31] <TheAceOfHearts> Heroku's prices are peanuts compared to our backend
[06:48:52] <wafflejock> TheAceOfHearts: was it just the shear number of instances that were running that cost more or data throughput?
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[06:49:38] <TheAceOfHearts> I don't know :P
[06:49:41] <TheAceOfHearts> so, we do resource pooling
[06:49:54] <TheAceOfHearts> so we give people guaranteed cores and burst cores
[06:51:24] <TheAceOfHearts> but well, we're an expensive server
[06:51:34] <TheAceOfHearts> according to our pricing page, our standard offering starts at $3k/month
[06:51:47] <wafflejock> TheAceOfHearts: ah okay
[06:51:58] <wafflejock> TheAceOfHearts: so like B2B server admin stuff?
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[06:52:13] <TheAceOfHearts> yeah, I think we're B2B
[06:52:20] <TheAceOfHearts> but not necessarily sefver admins stuff
[06:52:21] <TheAceOfHearts> like
[06:52:24] <davek> What sort of distributed systems exactly?
[06:52:38] <TheAceOfHearts> tl;dr: send us arbitrary data and run SQL against it
[06:52:39] <davek> Do you just provide preconfigured clusters as a service to users?
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[06:53:26] <TheAceOfHearts> no
[06:53:29] <TheAceOfHearts> it's more abstracted away
[06:53:44] <TheAceOfHearts> you can send us arbitrary json data
[06:53:50] <TheAceOfHearts> and run SQL queries against it
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[06:54:03] <TheAceOfHearts> so idk, let's say you're collecting a few TBs of data per day
[06:54:09] <TheAceOfHearts> you need a place to put that data and process it
[06:54:16] <TheAceOfHearts> Treasure Data is a good solution for that :P
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[06:54:38] <wafflejock> ah k gotcha, I know you've talked about it before but don't think I understood what it was
[06:54:59] <TheAceOfHearts> from the customer's perspective, it's just like using a database
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[06:55:03] <TheAceOfHearts> except you don't have to configure anything
[06:55:08] <TheAceOfHearts> it Just Works~
[06:55:35] <TheAceOfHearts> honestly, I don't think normal people have a need for our services; but if you have the data volume, I think we do a great job :D
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[06:56:29] <TheAceOfHearts> if you can fit your data in one computer, you probably don't have big data :P
[06:56:49] <wafflejock> what's the limit on AWS volumes?
[06:56:59] <TheAceOfHearts> what do you mean?
[06:57:02] <wafflejock> I just expanded mine from 8GB to a whopping 12GB
[06:57:15] <wafflejock> TheAceOfHearts: is there some limit to the EBS volumes you create, I thought it was all "virtualized"
[06:57:25] <wafflejock> so you could just keep expanding that sucker
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[06:58:05] <TheAceOfHearts> I'm not a backend engineer x), but all of the customer's data get stored on S3 :P, we have our own storage engine that we hook up to different querying engines
[06:58:26] <TheAceOfHearts> can't say some of the cool companies that use us, because of NDAs :(
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[06:58:49] <wafflejock> TheAceOfHearts: ah k gotcha... just probing cause I've been messing with AWS for a bit and like it but always like to look ahead
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[06:59:09] <TheAceOfHearts> wafflejock: TD is just like a big database for processing data
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[06:59:45] <TheAceOfHearts> it's mostly processing logs :P
[06:59:59] <TheAceOfHearts> like, people will log EVERYTHING and then do aggregations on them or w/e
[06:59:59] <wafflejock> NSA
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[07:00:09] <TheAceOfHearts> haha
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[07:00:20] <TheAceOfHearts> unfortunately the NSA does not use us :P
[07:00:22] <TheAceOfHearts> OR DO THEY !?!?!
[07:00:26] <wafflejock> hah
[07:00:51] <TheAceOfHearts> so, on our open source side, companies that use us include Nintendo and Apple :D
[07:01:08] <TheAceOfHearts> like, they use some of our open source software~
[07:01:15] <TheAceOfHearts> which is awesome
[07:01:38] <wafflejock> yeah that's cool, you know if they push back changes?
[07:01:50] <TheAceOfHearts> I don't really pay attention lol
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[07:02:29] <TheAceOfHearts> oh, do you use vim? there's this thing called neovim coming out. it uses msgpack :D, the creator of msgpack sits almost right in front of me lol
[07:03:17] <wafflejock> ah no never got into vim, I tried it for a couple of days on and off but couldn't get into it
[07:03:24] <TheAceOfHearts> same here
[07:03:29] <TheAceOfHearts> but anyway, it's like, legit.
[07:03:37] <TheAceOfHearts> and a lot of people use it
[07:03:38] <TheAceOfHearts> like Apple :P
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[07:04:14] <wafflejock> nice
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[07:10:20] <ajk27> TheAceOfHearts: That's pretty slick, and pretty damn widely available from the looks of it. Nice.
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[07:10:34] <TheAceOfHearts> the guy that created msgpack, he's a genius
[07:10:41] <TheAceOfHearts> he basically created our whole infrastructure
[07:10:49] <ajk27> Furuhashi?
[07:10:51] <TheAceOfHearts> I'm not joking when I say that he's absolutely brilliant
[07:10:52] <TheAceOfHearts> yeah
[07:10:58] <TheAceOfHearts> Sadayuki Furuhashi
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[07:11:22] <ajk27> Very cool, I'm a little sad that I've never even heard of this before
[07:11:33] <TheAceOfHearts> haha
[07:11:47] <TheAceOfHearts> we also created fluentd :P
[07:11:53] <TheAceOfHearts> which is a reliable log collector
[07:11:55] <TheAceOfHearts> open source :D
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[07:12:10] <TheAceOfHearts> multiple inputs, multiple outputs :D
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[07:13:23] <ajk27> Looks kind of like reactive extensions for logs :P
[07:13:37] <TheAceOfHearts> not sure what that means
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[07:15:31] <ajk27> Treat everything as a data stream and do cool stuff with it
[07:15:40] <TheAceOfHearts> ah
[07:15:41] <TheAceOfHearts> yeah
[07:15:44] <ajk27> (Woefully inadequate oversimplification alert) :P
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[07:16:45] <ajk27> This is why I like lurking in this channel, fun stuff comes in to break my brain before bed. Thanks :)
[07:16:54] <TheAceOfHearts> haha
[07:16:59] <TheAceOfHearts> glad to be of service
[07:17:01] <TheAceOfHearts> but really
[07:17:05] <TheAceOfHearts> it's all our backend's work :P
[07:17:12] <TheAceOfHearts> I'm just a frontend engineer
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[07:38:55] <sahilsk> Hi,
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[07:39:09] <sahilsk> how can i listen stream through angularjs?? :(
[07:39:18] <sahilsk> *stream response
[07:39:23] <sahilsk> I don't want to use socket.io
[07:40:22] <TheAceOfHearts> do browsers even have native streams?
[07:41:27] <paperElectron> I dont think so, You can hack something in with multiple calls to res.write() in node though
[07:42:02] <paperElectron> But then you have to handle the connection yourself
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[07:44:28] <mdedetrich> streams are a bit of a weird beast for clients anyways
[07:44:52] <paperElectron> Its what spdy does iirc
[07:44:57] <TheAceOfHearts> streams are great
[07:45:01] <ajk27> sahilsk: I mentioned Reactive Extensions a little bit ago, there's a JavaScript implementation that aims to handle data streams on the client side
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[07:46:06] <BobbieBarker> hey does anyone know of a pure angularJS directive for an analog clock?
[07:46:12] <BobbieBarker> i.e out of the box directive
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[07:48:50] <TheAceOfHearts> tl;dr
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[07:56:55] <sunil_> @all <banner-ads info='{{headline.info}}' ng-controller="AdsCtrl"></banner-ads> . I am trying to pass headline.info value to my template. What wrong i am doing it here?
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[07:58:13] <sunil_> i am setting headline.info in my controller to mobile_top or mobile_bottom
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[07:58:32] <dmg91> sunil_: is your headline object in your $scope?
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[07:59:08] <sunil_> yes i can get the value in <span>{{headline.info}}</span>
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[07:59:34] <sacho_> you already have the value
[07:59:36] <sacho_> it's headline.info
[07:59:43] <Guest45478> Hi
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[08:00:34] <sunil_> @sacho i am able to pass it to my template
[08:01:16] <sacho_> weird, I read that as "how can I", sorry.
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[08:01:33] <pipush> hi
[08:01:46] <sunil_> @ sacho my template call is <banner-ads info='{{headline.info}}' ng-controller="AdsCtrl"></banner-ads>
[08:01:56] <pipush> did someone published angular on weblogic?
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[08:03:26] <ZEH> who uses mocha and shouldjs here ?
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[08:12:16] <sunil_> @sacho do you have any pointer?
[08:12:31] <sunil_> what wrong i am doing?
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[08:20:03] <Chepra> Using requirejs + angularjs, was could cause problems with module loading which dont occur everytime?
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[08:30:44] <Veer89> Hi all
[08:30:54] <TheAceOfHearts> no
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[09:20:54] <chovy> where can i read about testing?
[09:21:00] <chovy> i have no idea where to begin
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[09:29:09] <TheAceOfHearts> the best way to learn is to build stuff \o/
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[09:30:59] <zbzzn> I would like to know about that too
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[09:32:47] <TheAceOfHearts> well, what do you want to know about testing?
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[09:36:10] <Veer89> @Ali1214 Check out the answer now
[09:36:45] <ckboii89> hi i need help on autofilling my textbox area after a selection from a typeahead
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[09:37:19] <ckboii89> if you look at the plunkr, im trying to retrieve the json data "description"
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[09:37:51] <ckboii89> to fill the the textbox area. I was told to pass the same model but its not retrieving the one i wnat
[09:38:02] <TheAceOfHearts> *cough*
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[09:40:02] <ckboii89> hm..
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[09:42:39] <DevAntoine> hi, I have a weird issue under firefox with ngNumber. Whenever I enter a single key in the input, the focus is immediately lost. It's due to the ngModel because when I remove the directive the focus works just fine. I have no clue about it and I can't reproduce it with plunker
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[09:47:02] <SuRfDeMoN> should you not have tests that test your tests to make sure they are testing correctly?... where does it stop :)
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[09:48:31] <chovy> SuRfDeMoN: i need someone to setup tests.
[09:48:41] <chovy> i can't even get this shit to do a simple .is(true)
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[09:51:05] <SuRfDeMoN> chovy: I'm still pretty new with angular and only looked a little at testing, things I used was youtube clips on testing in angular and then I used something like grunt to create a base package and it puts base testing files in place as well then I messed around with them changing them and writing code to see what it did along with reading the docs for it, I think I got the basics of it and then had to move on with a pro
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[09:51:57] <ckboii89> hi i'm trying to get json data for description to show up in the text area after i make a selection from a typeahead. can someone help/suggest me how to get it? i was told to use the same model but its not working
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[09:52:21] <SuRfDeMoN> chovy: the thing that goes round my head is how do I know the code for the tests don't have any errors which mean the code they are testing could be right but the test still fail
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[09:52:39] <chovy> ok
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[09:52:51] <chovy> good idea. i never think to outube something
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<mettjus> hi! can anybody please explain me how local variables inside directives work? in particular i got this plnkr where variables from different instances of the same directive get overridden http://plnkr.co/edit/s8s5ucQOd8mRK96bolsS?p=preview. How should i do this?
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[10:09:11] <crocket> How do I change an image if it's hovered over by a mouse cursor in angularjs?
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[10:10:00] <TyrfingMjolnir> crocket: Do you want to change the image, or just change the offset in that image?
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[10:10:18] <crocket> TyrfingMjolnir, Changing the image would be easier.
[10:10:32] <TyrfingMjolnir> No, that would require another image to load
[10:10:35] <crocket> TyrfingMjolnir, I'm currently doing it by setting background and adjusting padding-left.
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[10:11:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> changing offset in the same image would just change that one offset value
[10:11:18] <crocket> TyrfingMjolnir, Do you suggest that I just change offset?
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[10:11:41] <TyrfingMjolnir> crocket: Depends on the size of the image
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[10:11:50] <TyrfingMjolnir> If it's a button icon I would just change the offset
[10:12:11] <TyrfingMjolnir> If it is an actual picture, like in a slideshow, I might have changed the entire picture
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[10:12:58] <crocket> TyrfingMjolnir, It's an icon.
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[10:13:15] <TyrfingMjolnir> Like play/pause change of status?
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[10:16:14] <TyrfingMjolnir> How many states does the icon have?
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[10:19:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> Probably you would like to make a change to background-position: -10px -10px;
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[10:19:19] <AlecTaylor> hi
[10:19:45] <TyrfingMjolnir> AlecTaylor: hi
[10:21:11] <zbzzn> read the docs?
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[10:21:27] <zbzzn> if I had to guess I would say body:
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[10:22:02] <AlecTaylor> AFAIK the standard supports data and body on POST/PUT/GET
[10:22:14] * AlecTaylor might be confusing things though
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[10:23:32] <crocket> Damn it
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[10:26:53] <chr1stopher> this is all too overwhelming; polymer for angularjs, ionic, bootstrap for angularjs
[10:27:02] <chr1stopher> i just dont know where to start, what to learn and what to use
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[10:27:31] <chr1stopher> the projects i do are non commercial and just for functionality
[10:27:41] <chr1stopher> so it s not very important do individual
[10:27:50] <Zerot> AlecTaylor: that looks correct. what exactly do you mean by "fails"? have you checked in the browser dev tools if the request had data attached to it?
[10:27:58] <bealtine> learn about angular first, then worry about all the rest later
[10:28:13] <chr1stopher> the last project i learned a little bit of angularjs
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[10:28:28] <chr1stopher> so now i would love to go a step ahead
[10:28:33] <chr1stopher> polymer looks great
[10:28:33] <bealtine> "it fails" is not a description
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[10:29:41] <Guest67717> Hi, pasting text inside of a textarea not triggering digest, any solution ?
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[10:36:03] <mettjus> how can i have local variables inside a directive and keep a reference to the parent scope (eg: no {scope:true} ) at the same time and possibly in a clean way and without polluting the parent scope (eg: scope.myVar = something in link function)?
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[10:38:18] <mettjus> looks like if i do var myVar = something inside the directive function body myVar gets declared on the window object
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[10:38:32] <chr1stopher> mettjus: thanks. i didnt meant angulajrs, more what enhancement to use, like polymer or bootstra-angular or ionic
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[10:40:35] <mettjus> oh i see
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[10:45:50] <sacho_> mettjus, that's impossible.
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[10:46:31] <mettjus> sacho: r u referring to my question?
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[10:46:42] <sacho_> no, to your last statement.
[10:46:46] <chr1stopher> but can you compare ionic, agnularjsbootstrap and polymer? or are they different approaches?
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[10:46:59] <chr1stopher> polymer is still the future and worst browser support compared to the others or?
[10:47:18] <chr1stopher> so angular-bootstrap is still the best way ATM but maybe ionic and polymer is the future?
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[10:47:27] <sacho_> mettjus, I'm really not sure what your question is exactly, try illustrating it with an example
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[10:47:39] <bealtine> ionic and bootstrap are different implementations of simialr ieas
[10:47:42] <zbzzn> mettjus, it is possible if the code runs in the context of the window
[10:47:44] <bealtine> ideas
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[10:48:10] <mettjus> sacho: i'm tryin to find a clean way to make that work
[10:48:14] <zbzzn> you can prevent this by wrapping it in an IIFE
[10:48:17] <chr1stopher> i want to start a new project; i know a little angularjs; the project is for my hobby, so it doesnt need to be perfect and it s not commercial; now i want to decide what framework to use; angularjs is for sure, but what css framework ...
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[10:48:21] <sacho_> mettjus, what's that supposed to demonstrate?
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[10:49:08] <mettjus> each line should have a different result… if u look script.js is very easy
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[10:50:17] <sacho_> a directive's definition(the function you pass to .directive()) is run only once.
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[10:50:47] <sacho_> it's the compile and link functions that are run multiple times.
[10:51:02] <mettjus> so the local var i declare inside the directive function is actually shared among all instances?
[10:51:42] <Foxandxss> chr1stopher: none of that can be compared
[10:52:26] <mettjus> zbzzn: u right.. that could be a way
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[10:52:46] <zbzzn> mettjus, yes, that creates a closure over those variables
[10:52:51] <sacho_> mettjus, directives don't really have instances
[10:52:57] <sacho_> a directive is a recipe
[10:53:01] <zbzzn> my other suggestion will not help you
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[10:53:52] <sacho_> mettjus, you can just define the setup function within `link`
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[10:53:55] <sacho_> e.g.
[10:54:05] <mettjus> i'm tryin to wrap my head around it as i was quite surprised when i got the result i have
[10:54:08] <Foxandxss> zbzzn: hey, what happened with the unit testing doubts?
[10:54:25] <zbzzn> When I returned from the meeting you left :)
[10:54:29] <mettjus> sacho_: i think i got your suggestion
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[10:55:18] <Foxandxss> zbzzn: yup, had to go :P
[10:55:20] <Foxandxss> we can resume
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[10:55:38] <chr1stopher> Foxandxss: and why cant they be compared? ;D
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[10:55:43] <zbzzn> I am going to lunch with the team now so later if you have time
[10:55:51] <Foxandxss> sure
[10:55:54] <mettjus> sacho_: tnx for the plnk .. i was wondering if i could keep things separate, but it looks like i can't
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[10:58:06] <sacho_> mettjus, I'm not sure what you mean by "keeping things separate"
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[10:59:48] <hhh> ping www.google.com
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[11:00:13] <hhh> clrscr
[11:00:14] <mettjus> sacho_: it simply means i expected my first plnkr to work and it looked cleaner.. but it only tells me i still gotta lot to learn about js/angular
[11:00:17] <hhh> cls
[11:00:25] <hhh> tree
[11:00:36] <hhh> pnkr
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[11:01:12] <Veer89> cls
[11:01:15] <Veer89> clear
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[11:01:37] <Veer89> how to clear old chat, can anybody help
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[11:01:50] <domReady> Hi, I'm trying to create a new angular project with requireJS, I'm getting weird 'MyApp',Module '{0}' is not available! You either misspelled... , Removing the 'ng-app="MyApp" and load via domeReady({angular.bootstrap(MyApp)}) solved my problem, any ideas why?
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[11:02:48] <Veer89> @domReady for usinf "myApp" module, you have to define one before accesssing
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[11:03:21] <Veer89> var MyApp = angular.module("MyApp", []);
[11:03:33] <domReady> Veer89 - I already defined in the requireJs.config file
[11:03:50] <Veer89> no you have to define in js file
[11:04:01] <bealtine> with tjs you need to manually bootstrap angular
[11:04:03] <Veer89> or in script tag in index.html
[11:04:04] <bealtine> rjs
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[11:09:05] <Blackshark> has anyone here any experience building angular and yui hybrid apps?
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[11:16:16] <mettjus> sacho_: in the end i will need to declare all my directive logic inside the link function? i mean i can't declare other functions inside the directive main function cause i wouldn't be able to share vars..?
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[11:18:42] <sacho_> mettjus, you keep thinking of a directive as some kind of instance, e.g. <my-dir></div>
[11:18:54] <sacho_> err, </my-dir>
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[11:20:03] <DevAntoine> so, no one has ever heard of a bug about losing focus with firefox caused by ngModel?
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[11:20:18] <sacho_> DevAntoine, do you have a plunker of it?
[11:20:45] <DevAntoine> sacho_: nop, I can't reproduce the bug :/
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[11:20:56] <bealtine> then it's imaginary
[11:20:59] <sacho_> what makes you think that's the cause of the bug, then?
[11:21:18] <DevAntoine> sacho_: because when I remove the ngModel the focus works just fine
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[11:22:09] <sacho_> DevAntoine, that's a logical fallacy
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[11:22:30] <sacho_> correlation is not causation
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[11:23:48] <rtpg> In django's template language I can do something like {% include "name_snippet.html" with person="Jane" %}
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[11:24:02] <rtpg> is there some equivalent I can do with ngInclude? To define something in the child scope easily
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[11:24:56] <w1ther> @Blackshark, I haven't but I'm just curious what do you get from yui that angular doesn't do. (I haven't played with yui)
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[11:25:15] <DevAntoine> sacho_ : well, I have no other clue
[11:25:24] <DevAntoine> sacho_: it's only happening under firefox
[11:25:40] <MaxV> Hello guys! I was wondering if there is a channel on which I can contact the AngularUI team without passing by an issue tracker
[11:25:44] <DevAntoine> I enter one char and then lost the focus, the click again in the input and it works fine the second tie
[11:25:45] <DevAntoine> time
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[11:26:24] <Blackshark> w1ther: yui has superior modularity and takes care of all dependency resolution and loading, especially in large projects that is a blessing
[11:26:38] <CaShY> rtpg: if you use directives you can pass info in
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[11:27:25] <rtpg> as in create a custom directive with the template ? I guess that's possible, it just feels like a common enough situation for reusable snippets that it seems odd that ngInclude doesn't do it
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[11:28:13] <CaShY> directives are resuseable snippets
[11:28:23] <Blackshark> w1ther: the problem i have is that angular is to aggresive in cleaning up after itself. i am using ui.router and when i change the route everything from the previous rout is deleted including my yui data and dom :(
[11:29:12] <sacho_> uh
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[11:29:22] <sacho_> well, duh
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[11:29:42] <sacho_> changing the view replaces the dom in your element with a ng-view directive
[11:30:03] <DevAntoine> sacho_: I don't know how to debug that, I'm really lost
[11:30:12] <bealtine> it's supposed to "delete" all teh stuffz
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[11:31:21] <sambian_> /msg NickServ identify
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[11:32:30] <w1ther> I wonder if you set reload: false if that would do anything. I haven't tried.
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[11:52:19] <rawry> yeah, try previous more stable angular versions in the dropdown on the page
[11:52:26] <rawry> it's broken in the latest it seems
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[11:54:11] <Noob14> ah great i did not notice the dropdown thx:)
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[11:59:52] <intellix> $swipe has only one method: “bind” and doesn’t have the ability to unbind. Shouldn’t that be “on” and “off”?
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[12:02:52] <syed99> Hi all, how to apply filters on the ng-model?
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[12:04:22] <syed99> i want to have input to enter only as date in the front end
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[12:08:39] <syed99> any clues
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[12:17:46] <sacho> ?
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[12:18:13] <sacho> if what's possible?
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[12:18:50] <ncbw> i want to add ng-class/ng-clicks to the element the directive is on,
[12:19:13] <ncbw> so i can have the same func for a/button etc
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[12:19:40] <ncbw> $element.attr(‘ng-class’, ‘getClass()’) was a long shot
[12:19:48] <sacho> you'd need to add them in compile.
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[12:20:54] <ncbw> ah, compile: { pre: func() } ?
[12:21:52] <sacho> there's no "pre" or "post" compile - check out the documentation
[12:22:28] <ncbw> ?
[12:22:29] <ncbw> compile: function compile(tElement, tAttrs, transclude) {
[12:22:29] <ncbw> return {
[12:22:31] <ncbw> pre: function preLink(scope, iElement, iAttrs, controller) { ... },
[12:22:31] <ncbw> post: function postLink(scope, iElement, iAttrs, controller) { ... }
[12:22:32] <ncbw> }
[12:22:56] <sacho> yes, compile is a function.
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[12:23:27] <ncbw> i see what you mean
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[12:29:05] <sacho> hmm.
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[12:31:17] <mettjus> sacho_: u right when u say i tend to consider a directive some kind of instance.. but i don't get how should i think of it. i mean what should i do if i want to use a directive in different places with different data?
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[12:33:13] <mettjus> sacho_: in my particular case i'm trying to make a directive that generates a small d3js chart, whose data is gonna to be updated… so i would like to keep a reference to the svg object somewhere in the directive and it should be the svg specific to the element the directive is bound to
[12:33:47] <mettjus> sacho_: should i isolate scope?
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[12:34:40] <mettjus> does isolate scope make the directive behave more instance-like?
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[12:37:00] <sacho> mettjus, you'd need to define the svg reference in your link function, yeah.
[12:37:27] <mettjus> sacho: but then isolate scope and place svg on the isolate scope…?
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[12:37:50] <sacho> you could use an isolate scope, sure.
[12:38:06] <mettjus> that looks to me as the only way
[12:38:14] <dob_> Is it possible to create a central template html file which only includes ng-template script tags and include it? I want to be able to overwrite this later with other templates
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[12:38:58] <mettjus> sacho: as if i don't isolate i don't have a place to put my variables to be shared only in one "instance/usage" of the directive
[12:39:49] <mettjus> sacho: could u explain me what's wrong in thinking of a directive as an instance? i mean could i consider it an instance once i isolate scope?
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[12:41:36] <sacho> mettjus, because a directive is the object you return from the function you pass to .directive()
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[12:42:17] <sacho> that object is created just once, and from then on, you call the compile or link functions from it
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[12:43:12] <sacho> so, which thing is the "directive instance"? The scopes created by calling compile/link are byproducts of how javascript works, but are the closest to such a concept
[12:43:29] <sacho> it's certainly not the scope - some directives don't require a new scope be created
[12:43:41] <mettjus> i think i get that
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[12:44:24] <mettjus> but how would u define the fact of using the same directive on many elements?
[12:45:21] <mettjus> that's what i tend to call instances…
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[12:45:31] <sacho> hey, ncbw
[12:45:46] <ncbw> sacho: ?
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[12:55:20] <ncbw> sacho: thanks that is exactly what i want to do..
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[12:57:47] <noobee> how can I put ngProgress for all ajax request in angular?
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[13:01:24] <sacho> check out http interceptors
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[13:08:42] <noobee> i found that
[13:08:44] <noobee> but doesnt work
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[13:08:57] <noobee> @sacho
[13:08:58] <noobee> boss
[13:09:09] <noobee> it doesnt work on ngprogress lite
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[13:11:47] <VictorBjelkholm> noobee, if you would have all your ajax requests passes through a service, you could hook up ngProgress into that service
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[13:12:07] <noobee> im not using service yet
[13:12:11] <noobee> im a noob
[13:12:12] <noobee> >.<
[13:12:38] <VictorBjelkholm> well, everyone is a beginner at first :)
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[13:15:47] <Hounddog> hmmm ngprogress might be interesting for me
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[13:22:13] <kalpit> hi all
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[13:22:48] <kalpit> i am newbie to angular and i am facing issue with dropdown list... by default i am getting first option as blank
[13:23:29] <rawry> you can initially select a value in your controller, and the view will have first dropdown option preselected
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[13:24:07] <rawry> something along the lines of this: $scope.selectedValue = $scope.dropdownOptions[0];
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[13:25:03] <kalpit> i have serached around the web and i tried to use ng-options
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[13:25:30] <kalpit> and there i am getting error say "Error: Syntax Error: Token 'track' is an unexpected token at column 19 of the expression [config.currencies track by obj.id] starting at [track by obj.id]."
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[13:26:06] <kalpit> this is how i am using ng-options ng-options="obj.symbol for obj in config.currencies track by obj.id"
[13:26:15] <AlecTaylor> VictorBjelkholm: Nice work with ngProgress
[13:26:18] <AlecTaylor> Looks useful
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[13:26:42] * AlecTaylor will use it when [non-cached] page loads become slow enough to warrant that
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[13:27:14] <VictorBjelkholm> AlecTaylor, hey, thanks! Too bad I don't have any time maintaining it anymore though :(
[13:27:35] <AlecTaylor> Mmm
[13:27:38] <VictorBjelkholm> any good angular developer that is interesting in maintaining it, I can add them as contributor to the project
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[13:28:01] <AlecTaylor> VictorBjelkholm: No clue what my time commitments are, so can't promise anything yet
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[13:30:38] <rawry> kalpit: that's because track by expr is supposed to be used with key-value iterations on objects
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[13:30:51] <rawry> and it's seems that you're iterating an array
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[13:33:26] <kalpit> thanks
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[13:36:09] <kalpit> i have did something like this ng-options="obj.symbol for obj in config.currencies" and now i am not getting any blank option.. how can i set value ?
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[13:36:53] <chaitu> Hi, Can you help me in disabling the div tag using angularjs?
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[13:37:15] <sacho> "disabling" the div tag?
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[13:37:56] <chaitu> yes, what i mean is there are some elements in div tag all the elements should be disabled.
[13:38:03] <chaitu> yes, what i mean is there are some elements in div tag, all the elements should be disabled.
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[13:40:04] <ngbot> angular.js/master 1453fb7 Peter Bacon Darwin: docs(guide/unit-testing): add info on testing element transclude directives...
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[13:40:31] <amedia> hello, i have a question about form validation in angular 1.3
[13:41:10] <amedia> currently i use ng-minlength=“2”, but if i put that on multiple fields and later decide to put that to min 3, i would have to fix everywhere
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[13:41:24] <AlecTaylor> then use a variable
[13:41:41] <amedia> is it possible to write a directive, that would translate to ng-minlength=“x” ?
[13:41:56] <AlecTaylor> amedia: Just use a variable
[13:42:07] <amedia> ok
[13:42:12] <AlecTaylor> Good
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[13:47:57] <ngbot> angular.js/master 78d2620 Wladimir Coka: refactor($compile): improve readability on conditional assignment...
[13:47:57] <ngbot> angular.js/master 8c5cbcb Wladimir Coka: refactor(dateFilter): improve readability on conditional assignment...
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[14:03:08] <foofoobar> Is it possible to intercept the error when something could not be loaded (e.g. a partial) ?
[14:03:48] <foofoobar> And is it possible to periodically check if there is a connection to the server, if not, show a warning or something like this? Or should I create a websocket for this ?
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[14:06:46] <chaitu> Yes
[14:06:58] <sal1191> hey all
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[14:07:43] <sal1191> i am wondering, how does one manage an authenticated and nonauthenticated state in an angular app, when connected to a simple rest API
[14:08:01] <sal1191> all I can think of is to use a service
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[14:08:09] <sal1191> with basically an on/off switch
[14:08:46] <sal1191> but that doesnt seem secure. I can award an authenticated session over XHR right?
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[14:11:22] <jack___> how to set value in dropdown from object?
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[14:12:03] <zelrik> in a select box you mean?
[14:12:14] <jack___> i am using ng-options="obj.id as obj.symbol for obj in config.currencies" but its setting value as 0,1,2
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[14:12:22] <jack___> yes select box
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[14:12:48] <zelrik> jack___, bind an ng-model to the select tag
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[14:13:30] <jack___> can you give me example code as i am newbie in angular :)
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[14:14:39] <zelrik> you can do fairly advanced stuff with ng-options
[14:14:46] <zelrik> the syntax can be a bit tricky thoughu
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[14:16:31] <jack___> i have tried to use track by but i got error say "Token 'track' is an unexpected token at column 19 of the expression"
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[14:17:42] <zelrik> can I see your ng-option string
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[14:20:25] <jack___> ng-options="obj.id as obj.symbol for obj in config.currencies"
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[14:22:29] <zelrik> try currency.symbol for currency in config.currencies track by obj.id
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[14:23:41] <zelrik> and add a ng-model="currencyId"
[14:23:50] <zelrik> oops
[14:23:56] <zelrik> try currency.symbol for currency in config.currencies track by currency.id
[14:24:06] <zelrik> I had some error
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[14:25:25] <jack___> same error stating that Token 'track' is an unexpected token at column 19
[14:25:37] <zelrik> hmm
[14:25:49] <zelrik> you must have a mistake somewhere else in your html
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[14:26:35] <ngbot> angular.js/master 528f56a Jason Miller: fix(ngRoute): remove unnecessary call to decodeURIComponent...
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[14:26:53] <zelrik> jack___, which version of angular are you using
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[14:27:16] <jack___> 1.0.6
[14:27:22] <zelrik> I see
[14:27:23] <zelrik> upgrade
[14:27:28] <zelrik> to 1.2.19
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[14:27:58] <jack___> track by not supporting 1.0.6 it seems?
[14:28:00] <zelrik> 1.0.6 is old as hell
[14:28:11] <zelrik> likely
[14:28:24] <jack___> ok thanks will update it
[14:28:43] <zelrik> you can do a lot of things with ng-options
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[14:28:51] <zelrik> you just gotta find the syntax that works for you
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[14:31:02] <jack___> hmm
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[14:38:26] <ansu> anyone familiar with grunt-connect-proxy ?
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[14:40:44] <ngbot> angular.js/master 92bceb5 Sekib Omazic: fix(orderBy): correctly order by date values...
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[14:45:31] <teeray> anybody know if "docs(ngValue)" would be the appropriate commit message prefix for a doc change to ngValue?
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[14:49:58] <tschundeee> is setting ng-model="product.name" automatically making $scope.product available in a controller?
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[14:52:48] <teeray> tschundeee: most likely no
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[14:54:01] <tschundeee> teeray: are you sure? I thought so
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[14:58:35] <teeray> tschundeee: JSFiddle says you're right :)
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[14:59:00] <teeray> tschundeee: interesting behavior...
[14:59:32] <tschundeee> thx everytime I make a context switch between backend code and frontend code I get confused...
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[15:01:11] <ngbot> angular.js/master 4f45bf1 Peter Bacon Darwin: style($route): convert tab indent to spaces
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[15:03:49] <SuRfDeMoN> on an ng-repeat with a input field binding to the ng-repeat, is there a way to tell it to only filter on 1 field of the data behind the ng-repeat instead of searching all fields, so if I had a list of games and each game had a name, link, description and I just want the input to bind to the name field ?
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[15:06:31] <SuRfDeMoN> ah worked it out :)
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[15:15:06] <marcospgp> even though I have set mangle to false
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[15:15:23] <marcospgp> can this be due to the order in which the scripts are concatenated or something?
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[15:16:13] <sacho> why don't you look at the your final code?
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[15:16:36] <marcospgp> i did, and it all seems fine
[15:16:50] <marcospgp> I'm wondering if it's the order in which the scripts are concatenated for that reason
[15:16:52] <fwielstra> Yeah, although I think most minifiers will retain order somehow; you need to make sure the module declaration is always in front of the module usage (i.e. module(‘name’, []) before .module(‘name’)
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[15:17:13] <fwielstra> I use Usemin as set up by yeoman, I think it concats according to the script tag order in the index.html file
[15:17:20] <marcospgp> rightt, i thought angular loaded all modules first
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[15:19:16] <marcospgp> hm even after concatenating them in the order they were in the <script> calls, still doesn't work. any ideas?
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<bberry> So. im a bit of an angular noob (just started a few days ago). I'm trying to make an ajax call to my server. i have this code http://jsfiddle.net/Q4Nrv/ Ive tried doing $http and $resource, but my implementation of it always seems wrong because angular says 'uncaught object' error. :/
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[15:21:24] <bberry> Suggestions?
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[15:21:33] <sacho> bberry, use chrome canary.
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[15:22:04] <bberry> :( not available on ubuntu?
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[15:22:50] <sacho> well, maybe dev already has the fix for error messages.
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[15:24:29] <sacho> alternatively, maybe some other browser doesn't have the same bug
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[15:28:07] <marcio> hello! Somebody works with "multi apps" in one large application? If yes, what the approach you are using?
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[15:30:21] <marcospgp> one module per functionality marcio
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[15:30:25] <Hounddog> marcio: could you actually phrase that question a little broader?
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[15:32:27] <marcospgp> marcio: modules are declared in the files that have the same name as the component (folder
[15:32:34] <marcospgp> *)
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[15:34:18] <marcio> ok marcospgp, thanls man!
[15:34:35] <marcospgp> also guys, i got the uglyfication thing working, ty
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[15:48:08] <mikehaas763> Is anyone familiar with a list of all the events angular fires?
[15:48:13] <mikehaas763> I couldn't find one in the docs
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[15:50:04] <amedia> is there a way to only validate a part of the form?
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[15:50:25] <amedia> not form.$valid, but to only validate a fieldset’s fields?
[15:50:28] <rawry> mikehaas763: I guess you could just search for all the $broadcast & $emit method calls in the source code and find out yourself :)
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[15:52:09] <mikehaas763> that doesn't sound too great lol
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[16:00:02] <mikehaas763> Ok, so I'm using ui-routers $stateChangeStart event to prefix all templateUrl's specified in the defined states. I would like to do the same thing for directive templateUrls without defining a service, injecting it and prefixing in the directive itself. Any idea of any events I can listen on to do this?
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[16:05:43] <pton> hello, i am having a bit of an issue getting "myform" registered with $scope.
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[16:06:33] <rawry> pton: try initialize it with en empty object in your controller: $scope.myform = {};
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[16:07:02] <rawry> or, try the data.myform instead of just myform to overcome the inheritance quirks
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[16:07:24] <pton> ok, thanks rawry, i ll try those 2 options.
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[16:15:59] <lotus> Hey, I have an array of cakephp objects dumped to scope as [{'Model': {'id': #, ...}}, ... ] and I want to filter this list by the 'id' property so I do [[list | filter : {'Model': {'id': '5'}} : true]] which returns no results because the model objects have other properties. So I remove the [[ ... : true ]] at the end and I get every result that has "5" somewhere in the ID field. Help?
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[16:19:09] <icfantv> any bootstrap/CSS experts here?
[16:19:18] <matpb> ask away
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[16:19:51] <icfantv> the right side of the "toolbar" is not vertically centered
[16:19:53] <icfantv> it's 2px off
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[16:20:11] <icfantv> caveat: i forked this from someone's stackoverflow post
[16:20:20] <icfantv> and added my stuff.
[16:20:28] <icfantv> the original is the black/red boxes
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[16:21:26] <icfantv> matpb: the logout button and the two numbers to it's left are what's off
[16:21:48] <icfantv> nice
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[16:21:57] <icfantv> so true
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[16:22:38] <matpb> icfantv: im not sure im seeing the same thing you are. buttons !?
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[16:23:37] <icfantv> lemme make sure i saved it
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[16:23:54] <icfantv> whoo[s
[16:23:55] <icfantv> nope
[16:23:58] <icfantv> one sec
[16:24:27] <icfantv> ok
[16:24:36] <icfantv> refresh the page please
[16:24:42] <icfantv> first time w/ bootply
[16:24:45] <matpb> looking at it, brb
[16:24:48] <icfantv> sorry, i thought it autosaved
[16:24:50] <icfantv> thanks
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[16:26:34] <sal1191> anyone have any experience making webfonts?
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[16:26:44] <sal1191> we made a font that only has the UCO and N characters
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[16:27:01] <sal1191> it works on everything except firefox
[16:27:07] <sal1191> where it overlaps strangely
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[16:27:25] <sal1191> I end up with a O and N character superimposed
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[16:27:35] <apipkin> TehShrike|Work: Evan is a funny dude :P
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[16:28:01] <pton> ok, thanks rawry, seems that doesnt matter if i name a form "myFrom" or "data.myForm", i still need to initialize it with an empty obj
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[16:28:31] <robdubya> morning children
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[16:28:52] <apipkin> icfantv: did you get it figured out?
[16:28:57] <icfantv> still hacking
[16:29:01] <icfantv> apipkin
[16:29:07] <quan__> the gibson
[16:29:12] <apipkin> What’s the problem with that you are trying to fix?
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[16:29:30] <apipkin> sal1191: be sure to use the private unicode range if you are creating a custom font
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[16:29:58] <icfantv> apipkin: the vertical centering is off on the pull-right (the logout button and the numbers to the left)
[16:30:02] <icfantv> apipkin: it's 2px off
[16:30:11] <apipkin> can’t vertical align with floated elements
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[16:30:22] <matpb> icfantc: i sent you the answer in pm
[16:30:33] <icfantv> matpb: god it
[16:30:34] <icfantv> thanks
[16:30:38] <robdubya> the casbah?
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[16:32:10] <shred> nananannanah lock the taskbar
[16:32:11] <apipkin> icfantv: inline elements can be vertically aligned. which is why inline-block elements work well for grids. Also, flexbox.
[16:32:12] <shred> lock the taskbar
[16:32:20] <icfantv> matpb: ahhhhh, so the problem is with the h4's builtin margins?
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[16:32:55] <shred> this is an awesome angular tutorial the best ever
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[16:33:20] <icfantv> apipkin: yea, that's what I understood - i just didn't realize the problem was with the h4 and not my pull-right
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[16:33:30] <icfantv> not sure that would have ever occurred to me, actually
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[16:33:37] <sal1191> apipkin: do you mean I need a character for each character in the private unicode range?
[16:33:40] <sal1191> and that I can't leave them blank?
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[16:34:04] <apipkin> shred: 15 minutes worth?? Hahaha
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[16:34:48] <apipkin> icfantv: manipulating margins and padding is not the same as vertical aligning :)
[16:35:11] <shred> :)
[16:35:14] <icfantv> agreed and understood
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[16:35:29] <icfantv> i wasn't looking to fix it with adding margins and stuff
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[16:35:40] <apipkin> sal1191: no, not at all. you can create just the one if you want, but be sure it’s placed within the private range and not within the non private range
[16:35:45] <icfantv> i'm thinking to not use an h* for the left side
[16:35:51] <icfantv> and just use a larger font size
[16:36:04] <icfantv> to get rid of the emotional baggage that comes with the h* tags
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[16:36:12] <AlexAbraham> hey
[16:36:19] <AlexAbraham> i could really use some help with services
[16:36:20] <apipkin> Haha emotional baggage
[16:36:28] <AlexAbraham> I have a service that pulls data from a server
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[16:36:31] <icfantv> i love that phrase
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[16:36:48] <icfantv> applicable in so many instances
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[16:38:00] <AlexAbraham> here is a pastebin of my function
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[16:38:18] <Siecje> How do you combine all of your JavaScript for deployment?
[16:38:40] <icfantv> siecje: there's a grunt plugin
[16:38:42] <icfantv> one sec
[16:38:44] <AlexAbraham> my issue is at the second “then” statement. I only want it to run if there wasn’t an error
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[16:39:06] <icfantv> siecje: concat
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[16:39:40] <icfantv> siecje: do a google search, there's at least a half dozen blog posts that walk you through setting it up
[16:39:51] <icfantv> siecje: and minifying css, etc...
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[16:40:05] <Siecje> do you usually combine vendor files?
[16:40:12] <icfantv> no
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[16:40:38] <icfantv> siecje: but we're using requireJS w/ angular so our main landing page only has one <script> block
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[16:41:13] <icfantv> siecje: and requirejs loads all the other, necessary files
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[16:42:14] <icfantv> eventually i'll get around to a blog post on that as i never found one that organized an app by functionality AND used requireJS
[16:42:16] <bradmc> I'm so excited...my company just deployed websense and now npm, bower, and git (pull, clone, etc) no longer work
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[16:42:24] <icfantv> apipkin: thanks. will take a look.
[16:42:36] * icfantv hates websense
[16:42:53] <robdubya> is it one of those filter things?
[16:42:54] <icfantv> "Category 'email' is not allowed"
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[16:43:05] <icfantv> robdubya: yes. like netnanny
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[16:43:12] <quan__> websense sounds enterprisey
[16:43:13] <robdubya> ugh
[16:43:24] <apipkin> yuk
[16:43:29] <icfantv> it's awful
[16:43:41] <robdubya> i always wonder what HR ninny makes that decision
[16:43:45] <robdubya> OMGZ THE CHILDRENZ
[16:44:02] <icfantv> and it's implemented by IT who don't do any software development so they don't have a clue as to what they're doing. they're just trying to stop people from watching porn
[16:44:10] <robdubya> also, i got a call from rapid7 (metasploit) this morning at 7:30am
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[16:44:23] <robdubya> "whaaaaa? you want what?"
[16:44:31] <apipkin> I’m sure it has to do with total price per unit and one tiny feature they are actually looking for
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[16:44:34] <robdubya> "oh, its not 730 there there?"
[16:44:41] <apipkin> “i know it’s crapware, but it has this one feature that i really like"
[16:44:43] <robdubya> yes fuckwad, its 730 am. fuck off
[16:44:47] <icfantv> our corporate IT just rolled out something to all the windows users that uninstalled PostMan from all the chrome browsers
[16:44:50] <Hounddog> robdubya: rofl
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[16:45:00] <Hounddog> robdubya: normal people go to bed at that time!
[16:45:01] <icfantv> and suddenly all of QA couldn't test
[16:45:11] <icfantv> lost 2 whole days while they reverted
[16:45:21] <robdubya> Hounddog he was incredulous i didnt want to talk about security software
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[16:45:33] <Hounddog> hehe
[16:45:36] <robdubya> the correct response is "oh sorry, i'll call back later"
[16:45:37] <robdubya> not
[16:45:40] <robdubya> "you're not awake yet?"
[16:45:45] <robdubya> fuck. you.
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[16:46:37] <Hounddog> "grmbl mumble yawn" "is this a good time to talk to you?" "give it a guess..."
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[16:47:15] <robdubya> at least my sensor tags are arriving today
[16:47:18] <robdubya> that should be fun
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[16:47:54] <Hounddog> sensor tags? phone you mean?
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[16:48:48] <Hounddog> robdubya: thought so :)
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[16:49:18] <mikehaas763> Is it possible to make ui-router.s $urlRouterProvide.otherwise() method work with the state names, rather than urls?
[16:49:36] <robdubya> not that i'm aware of
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[16:49:44] <robdubya> the giveaway is ... urlRouter
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[16:50:04] <robdubya> Hounddog any experience with them?
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[16:50:08] <Hounddog> programm one directly for such fucktards with with automated reply. Put your phone on it "This is an automated reply. No you cannot leave a message after the tone cause i dont want to fucking speak to you!"
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[16:50:22] <robdubya> hahah
[16:50:22] <Hounddog> robdubya: i have none but was thinking of getting some for my phone
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[16:50:55] <robdubya> i'm working on a project, where i have yet to see any actual hardware and they want an integration done in... 7 weeks from today
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[16:51:19] <icfantv> at least they don't want it yesterday
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[16:51:52] <robdubya> gonna see if i can cordova it
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[16:53:24] <mikehaas763> robdubya: how is that a giveaway?
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[16:53:36] <robdubya> dont mind me mikehaas763 i'm grumpy this morning
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[16:55:22] <robdubya> and. now. the. smoke. alarm. battery. is. dying.
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[16:56:24] <bradmc> robdubya: IT ninny rather than HR ninny
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[16:56:45] <robdubya> bradmc bet it was still HR's idea
[16:56:49] <robdubya> its always HR's idea
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[16:58:00] <sal1191> I set the options in FontLab to use the Private Unicode range however the last three letters of my logo still overlap in firefox
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[16:58:39] <bradmc> or legal
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[16:58:52] <sal1191> in my quest to become a proficient font technician i will continue to google the piss out of this
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[16:59:18] <bradmc> the really crappy part is that it's not limited to just while we're on the corp network. It's client based so stuff doesn't work ANYWHERE
[16:59:27] <sal1191> rest assured if anyone has had weird custom font rendering problems in firefox id love to speak about it
[16:59:33] <bradmc> can'[t go home and work, can't go to coffee shop
[16:59:40] <Hounddog> bradmc: on the bright side, his data is secure
[16:59:53] <bradmc> yes. that's their goal
[17:00:00] <Hounddog> no one can touch it anymore :)
[17:00:02] <bradmc> although they allow dropbox and not box.com
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[17:00:11] <bradmc> go figure
[17:00:14] <Hounddog> hehe
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[17:01:27] <bradmc> At least they're trying to figure out how to allow npm, bower, git but cnat figure out how to do that with the could based product
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[17:01:45] <bradmc> and they asked what npm & bower was
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[17:02:09] <bradmc> I couldn't get them to understand until I said " it's like NuGet in Visual Studio"
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[17:02:27] <Hounddog> bradmc: At least they dont try to figure out before what would be required to keep the system running...
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[17:02:48] <bradmc> actually all this was working in test...and now it's not
[17:02:50] <bradmc> :-)
[17:02:55] <bradmc> why bother with test
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[17:04:37] <ajk27> bradmc: Heh, hate when that happens. Test environment is all lollipops and fairies, and prod is a damn failmarsh. "But they were set up the same!"
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[17:05:22] <bradmc> actually the admitted that they had issues getting production setup with the test settigns. but only after I asked what the hell happened
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[17:05:25] <sriram-dev> guys i am stuck while writing a test case. Am basically parsing an xml file in a service after fetching from html input element. How can i test this in angular ? any way to programatically simulate input type="file" to get its result given i know file location ?
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[17:05:35] <Hounddog> bradmc: rofl
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[17:06:13] <bradmc> don't get me started on trying to get Team Foundation Server with Git working outside Visual Studio
[17:06:17] <bradmc> I gave uyp
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[17:06:20] <bradmc> up
[17:06:36] <Hounddog> they fucked up and you cant go home you saying?
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[17:07:20] <bradmc> yes, only they don't see it as a fuck up
[17:07:37] <Hounddog> oh, its a normal process huh?
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[17:07:45] <bradmc> Global company and I'm the ONLY guy using these tools
[17:07:51] <bradmc> yep
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[17:09:56] <Hounddog> bradmc: so you are the only one using git also?
[17:10:02] <bradmc> yep
[17:10:09] <Hounddog> develoment company?
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[17:10:20] <bradmc> no
[17:10:24] <Hounddog> ahh ok
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[17:10:26] <bradmc> not that bad
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[17:10:38] <marmalade___> hey
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[17:10:49] <bradmc> but all the development teams here with the exception of ours are 100% MS
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[17:11:01] <Hounddog> but some visual studio guys... dont they use any scm?
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[17:11:12] <bradmc> scm?
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[17:11:17] <bradmc> oh
[17:11:20] <bradmc> source control
[17:11:21] <bradmc> yeah
[17:11:26] <bradmc> visual source safe
[17:11:27] <bradmc> :-)
[17:11:30] <Hounddog> rofl!
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[17:11:44] <marmalade___> if I provide a factory across multiple controllers does the factory get shared or created each time i load it into the controller?
[17:11:45] <Hounddog> where is that quote from the ms developer "search"
[17:11:47] <bradmc> just rolled out TFS last month but don't think many if any are using it yet
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[17:11:53] <sriram-dev> shared
[17:12:04] <marmalade___> YAY
[17:12:09] <sriram-dev> yeah
[17:12:10] <marmalade___> thanks for the answer
[17:12:28] <Hounddog> bradmc: there was a quote something like "Keeping stuff in visual source safe is like keeping important documents in the shredder
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[17:12:39] <Siecje> does grunt go into sub folders?
[17:12:45] <bradmc> yeah, I got our local team off VSS about 2 years ago and we went to SVN. baby steps. SO I was aexcited that TFS supported Git so I could "Play ball" and still get what I wanted
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[17:12:55] <bradmc> but trying to use it outside Visual Studio is a nightmare
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[17:13:03] <Somatt_wrk> hi
[17:13:14] <Hounddog> Siecje: grunt goes wherever you tell it to
[17:13:14] <bradmc> Hounddog: yeah I rememebr seeing that somewhere
[17:13:28] <Hounddog> bradmc: is a few years back though :)
[17:13:36] <Somatt_wrk> what low level solution would you recommend for ie8+ multiple file upload in angular ?
[17:13:39] <Siecje> Hounddog: but can I do 'js/*' and will go into all sub folders?
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[17:13:57] <beardedchimp> Hey, I noticed that if I do a call to $http (or call jqueries ajax directly) then do $location.path('/somewhere') it won't change location until $http has resolved even though it is async. How best to work around this?
[17:14:02] <sriram-dev> How can i test operations on files uploaded ? I have a service which operates on a file uploaded and i want to test it . Any idea ?
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[17:14:05] <Hounddog> Siecje: nope
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[17:14:22] <bradmc> Siecje: try js/**
[17:14:42] <Hounddog> was just looking up the glob pattern didnt remember what it was
[17:15:01] <bradmc> can't remember if it's js/** or js/**/**
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[17:15:15] <Hounddog> i thing the latter
[17:15:19] <Hounddog> *think
[17:15:26] <Hounddog> anyway... just try it
[17:15:27] <bradmc> me too
[17:15:32] <sriram-dev> anyone ? Hounddog? bradmc ?
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[17:15:36] <Siecje> Will it only get .js files?
[17:15:46] <robdubya> beardedchimp you shouldn't try to "work around it"
[17:15:47] <Hounddog> Siecje: it will get all files...
[17:15:58] <robdubya> typcially you'd change the location in the promise resolution
[17:15:59] <Siecje> how do I get just .js files?
[17:16:05] <bradmc> sriram-dev: unfortuantely I haven't ventured into testing yet
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[17:16:19] <Hounddog> Siecje: think logically, how thoes js/* imply that it would get only js files?
[17:16:31] <Siecje> It doesn't.
[17:16:34] <bewl> *.js
[17:16:35] <robdubya> haha, fuckin logic
[17:16:40] <robdubya> get outta here with that
[17:16:46] <Hounddog> robdubya: :p
[17:17:00] <bradmc> robdubya: that's what my wife says
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[17:17:20] <Hounddog> js/{,*/}*.js'
[17:17:24] <Hounddog> something like that
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[17:17:28] <bewl> ^
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[17:17:48] <beardedchimp> robdubya: My use case is that a user does some action and after they complete it I log the data with a remote server. For the user it doesn't matter when or if the http request completes, I just want them to continue on.
[17:17:49] <robdubya> js/**/*.js works in gulp/grunt
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[17:19:19] <robdubya> beardedchimp you might want to wrap that in a $timeout then
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[17:19:42] <robdubya> call service -> register timeout -> change location -> timeout expires -> fires http request
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[17:20:20] <beardedchimp> Yeah I did that with a timeout but it only works if I set an arbitrary number of miliseconds which I'm concerned will be different depending on devices etc.
[17:20:42] <robdubya> based on what you said, who cares?
[17:20:43] <robdubya> :D
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[17:21:50] <Aartsie> Everybody tells me that i have to separate the modules, services, controllers and directives in different files but what is the best way to access them ?
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[17:22:10] <beardedchimp> robdubya: I know what you mean but just jamming in a big number and hoping that will always work didn't seem like the best approach. Wanted to see if there is a better approach generally.
[17:22:51] <robdubya> beardedchimp normally i'd absolutely agree, but for out of band logging, meh
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[17:23:11] <Hounddog> Aartsie: include them. Think of it this way, You also dont keep your car insurance bank account details etc etc in a single Document stored in your drawer.
[17:23:39] <robdubya> Hounddog you've obviously never seen my Desktop/ALLTHETHINGS.txt file
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[17:23:53] <Hounddog> robdubya: not everyone is as fucked up as you...
[17:23:59] <robdubya> thank god for that
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[17:24:09] <Hounddog> hehe
[17:24:28] <beardedchimp> robdubya: Well it's not exactly logging was keeping it simple. It's saving things like questionaires. I'm writing some more code that looks back through data for any that didn't send and resends it.
[17:24:31] <Aartsie> Hounddog: Just when we load the module?
[17:24:38] <robdubya> Aartsie i generally have one "app" level module, and then a bunch of submodules for business logic
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[17:24:56] <beardedchimp> robdubya: I'm worried now that if I start sending loads of these requests in the background no matter what timeout I put, they will start interferring with $location
[17:25:01] <robdubya> angular.module('app', ['employees', 'humanresources', 'etc'])
[17:25:12] <Hounddog> or requirejs
[17:25:17] <Aartsie> robdubya: yes i have that to but every submodule has a map controllers, views and services
[17:25:31] <robdubya> Aartsie doens't matter. when you include the module all that stuff is available
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[17:25:51] <robdubya> beardedchimp i'd be interested to see a plunk of what you're doing
[17:26:07] <Aartsie> oke so i have to make a contact.controllers module and a contact.services module ?
[17:26:10] <robdubya> typically people have the opposite problem
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[17:26:17] <robdubya> Aartsie no
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[17:26:33] <beardedchimp> Ok I'll paste one.
[17:26:34] <robdubya> that's an arbitrary distinction and not very useful
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[17:26:57] <Aartsie> But i need a module to require them right ?
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[17:27:21] <robdubya> yes, but you can attach both the Accounting controllers and the accounting services to the accounting module
[17:27:31] <robdubya> a module is just a container for your stuff
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[17:28:39] <beardedchimp> robdubya: What's the preferred pastebin site here as opposed to plunk?
[17:28:41] <Aartsie> can you please make an example for me how you doing that ?
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[17:28:51] <robdubya> beardedchimp plunker, or gist i guess
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[17:29:43] <robdubya> beardedchimp also look at ui-router, since all the cool kids use it anyway
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[17:30:35] <rew_> I have quite a few input boxes that look like: <input directive1 directive2='someFunc()' ng-model='someModel' ng-disabled='expression' directive3='someDefualt'/>, My question is - Is this too many directives? If so, how should I clean it up?
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[17:33:22] <kevinson> Hi there
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[17:33:46] <marcospgp> rew_: can you merge some of the directives?
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[17:34:51] <kevinson> Would anyone be able to give me some pointers regarding the process of using a custom theme (more precisely: INSPINIA theme from wrapbootstrap) with ng-UI bootstrap (in the ng-Boilerplate)?
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[17:38:44] <rew_> marcospgp: I could probably do that for a couple.
[17:38:46] <Siecje> Besides having parameters in list of strings before the function what is a reason why your code might break when minified?
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[17:45:27] <sriram-dev> let me test my luck now
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[17:45:54] <sriram-dev> How can i test operations on files uploaded ? I have a service which operates on a file uploaded and i want to test it . Any idea ?
[17:45:55] <sriram-dev> How can i test operations on files uploaded ? I have a service which operates on a file uploaded and i want to test it . Any idea ?
[17:45:55] <sriram-dev> How can i test operations on files uploaded ? I have a service which operates on a file uploaded and i want to test it . Any idea ?
[17:45:55] <sriram-dev> How can i test operations on files uploaded ? I have a service which operates on a file uploaded and i want to test it . Any idea ?
[17:46:00] <sriram-dev> oops sry
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[17:46:54] <robdubya> typically you'd mock out the fie upload service for unit tests
[17:46:54] <robdubya> and for e2e use protractor to build the test
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[17:47:17] <robdubya> or, you know, just google it
[17:47:34] <bleepbleep> Hi all! I know I can require controllers from other directives, and I know i can definde a controller for a directive, but can i access a controller defined for that directive within the linking funciton of the same directive?
[17:47:45] <sriram-dev> wow i seriously didnt find that while i googled .. probably didnt use the right terms :)
[17:48:18] <cruxeternus> happens to me all the time
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[17:48:39] <OnkelTem> Hi all
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[17:49:05] <OnkelTem> I use $http.get() to fetch json from the server and for some reason I get the result SORTED alphabeticaly
[17:49:08] <OnkelTem> wt...? :)
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[17:49:41] <robdubya> thats likely to be your server doing that
[17:49:51] <OnkelTem> I'm not sure who make this exactly - Chrome or Angular? How to leave the result unsorted?
[17:50:03] <robdubya> afaik there's nothing in angular that's going to do this by default, nor chrome
[17:50:07] <OnkelTem> robdubya: in the Raw preview of response data is not sorted
[17:50:22] <sriram-dev> actually i want the file itself.. i read the file contents as binarystream and then operate on the file
[17:50:25] <robdubya> are you returning proper JSON? or an array of strings or some mess?
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[17:51:21] <OnkelTem> robdubya: let me show it
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[17:51:23] <beardedchimp> OnkelTem: Json associative objects don't preserve order like arrays do. You cant rely on {"b"=>2,"a"=>1} staying in that order
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[17:52:20] <OnkelTem> beardedchimp: oh, damn
[17:52:29] <OnkelTem> beardedchimp: why just not let the order unchanged?
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[17:52:45] <OnkelTem> leave
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[17:52:53] <beardedchimp> OnkelTem: It's part of the spec. It's annoying I know.
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[17:53:01] <robdubya> its why we have arrays :D
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[17:53:21] <OnkelTem> beardedchimp: so how it is supposed to keep the order? Like... creating monster structures?
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[17:53:37] <beardedchimp> OnkelTem: Like robdubya you can use arrays instead
[17:54:09] <beardedchimp> OnkelTem: But then you don't get the ability of doing object.propertyname anymore so that is also annoying.
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[17:54:40] <OnkelTem> yeah, and increase nesting level and augmenting structures with superfluous keys
[17:54:54] <beardedchimp> OnkelTem: Yep that's the jobby.
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[17:55:15] <OnkelTem> one more way... is to add to every object #keys key with list of keys in proper order
[17:55:30] <OnkelTem> and use it on the client to sort... I think :)
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[17:55:35] <beardedchimp> OnkelTem: I have also done it that way before.
[17:55:59] <robdubya> typically a list of things should be an arrayu
[17:56:05] <robdubya> and a thing should be an object
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[17:57:06] <OnkelTem> that is correct either
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[18:02:27] <sriram-dev> let me try if this works.. How can i get access to some file inside angular jasmine test ?
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[18:05:16] <sriram-dev> this i can just include it with karma and read it straightaway. i will give it a shot
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[18:09:56] <Siecje> so watch in grunt is just to be smart about when you call grunt. It doesn't automatically call grunt when there is a change.
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[18:12:22] <alinou> hi guys i have generate an angular app using yeoman it has grunt file in it still i am getting this grunt-cli: The grunt command line interface. (v0.1.13)
[18:12:23] <alinou> Fatal error: Unable to find local grunt.
[18:12:23] <alinou> If you're seeing this message, either a Gruntfile wasn't found or grunt
[18:12:23] <alinou> hasn't been installed locally to your project. For more information about
[18:12:23] <alinou> installing and configuring grunt, please see the Getting Started guide:
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<AngularUI> [bootstrap] papoola opened pull request #2467: feat(timepicker): added support for seconds (master...timepicker-seconds) http://git.io/Q12E8Q
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[18:21:44] <marcospgp> did you install grunt globally? alinou
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[18:24:18] <robbyman> Hello all
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[18:24:55] <jaawerth> alinou: what directory are you running grunt from?
[18:24:58] <jaawerth> robbyman: hi!
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[18:26:46] <robbyman> I've just started to dive in angular.. I'd like to use angular initially for a small part of a Rails app to show/filter the products. Is it cool if the whole app is not utilizing angular initially (aka. single page app) or is it an anti-pattern?
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[18:28:58] <ajk27> robbyman: You don't have to use angular everywhere, you can use it only inside one tag of one page if you wanted to.
[18:29:04] <jaawerth> robbyman: You can absolutely do this - the angular library isn't all that big. Just make sure you're putting the ng-app tag on a subset of your html that encloses the widget rather than directly on the body tag - angular will know not to waste resources on the rest of the DOM.
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[18:29:10] <alinou> marcospgp, i believe i have installed grunt globally, when i run whereis grunt, i get grunt: /usr/bin/grunt /usr/bin/X11/grunt
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[18:29:42] <marcospgp> npm install -g grunt-cli
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[18:29:59] <alinou> jaawerth, i am running grunt in the directoy where grunt.js resides
[18:30:10] <alinou> marcospgp, ok let me try it
[18:30:11] <jaawerth> is it grunt.js or Gruntfile.js?
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[18:30:33] <alinou> jaawerth, Gruntfile.js
[18:30:51] <jaawerth> ah, good
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[18:31:20] <jaawerth> also, if you used yeoman it should have added grunt and grunt-cli to your local directory as well. If you look at your package.js file, does it show grunt-cli, grunt, plus a bunch of grunt plugins?
[18:31:24] <robbyman> @ajk27, @jaawerth.. thank you! I just wanted to double check... my hope is to develop other parts with angular eventually. I promise I'll write tests lol
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[18:32:08] <alinou> marcospgp, it has intalled globally but still same issue
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[18:32:21] <marcospgp> alinou: I'm not sure then /:
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[18:32:45] <alinou> marcospgp, ok Thank you! I guess this is some issue of yeoman
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[18:32:56] <ajk27> robbyman: Good luck! Have fun storming the castle :P
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[18:33:02] <jaawerth> alinou: check your package.js file, make sure it already includes entries for grunt and grunt-cli, and then try running "npm install" with no other options from the root of your project directory
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[18:33:28] <alinou> jaawerth, Thank you let me try it
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[18:33:47] <robbyman> ajk27, haha, appreciate it
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[18:34:59] <jaawerth> alinou: if grunt and grunt-cli AREN'T listed in package.js or if the above doesn't work, try running 'npm install --save-dev grunt grunt-cli', also from the root of your project
[18:35:24] <zumba_addict> hey folks, i remember few months ago I asked about oath2 and someone told me it's a pain in the arse. However, I forgot the reasons why it was a pain. I also forgot the alternatives. Can someone shed some light please?
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[18:35:36] <alinou> jaawerth, ok Thank you!
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[18:36:39] <zumba_addict> hey jaawerth, I remember you wanted me to show you my http interceptor code. I got it working :)
[18:36:50] <jaawerth> nicely done!
[18:37:01] <zumba_addict> :)
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[18:38:01] <marcospgp> what is a grunt target?
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[18:38:21] <OnkelTem> beardedchimp, robdubya: so I made in this way. On server I add '#keys' key to every object and in template I do:
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[18:38:28] <OnkelTem> <div x-ng-repeat="name in data.info['#keys']" class="{{name}}" x-ng-bind-html="data.info[name].body[0] | unsafe"></div>
[18:38:54] <OnkelTem> something like this. Works great. Comparing to what was there before:
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[18:39:16] <OnkelTem> <div x-ng-repeat="(name, fragment) in data.info" class="{{name}}" x-ng-bind-html="fragment.body[0] | unsafe"></div>
[18:39:23] <OnkelTem> just few symbols more :)
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[18:40:41] <OnkelTem> But stupid I created a function which sorts objects properties
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[18:41:00] <OnkelTem> hehe
[18:41:06] <OnkelTem> of course it didn't work ))
[18:41:08] <marcospgp> jaawerth ty
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[18:42:18] <upsell5> hi, do I have to run my examples on a web server or a simple index.html file will do?
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[18:42:32] <upsell5> i’m not sure how to go to the sample login page I created when on index.html
[18:42:38] <ckboii89> hey i'm trying to autofill the textbox area after the selection from a typeahead. However i want to autofill not the selection, but another json field. heres a plunkr example
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[18:42:41] <upsell5> i tried: index.html/#/login but that doesn’t work.
[18:42:42] <ckboii89> <textarea class="form-control form-control-modal" rows="3" ng-model="newTreatment.async_selected_treatment" placeholder="Add a Description" >{{newTreatment.description}}</textarea>
[18:42:46] <ckboii89> ooops
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[18:43:44] <ckboii89> im trying to get the description field to autofill the text area box, but the service field is getting put into it
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[18:45:16] <ngbot> angular.js/master db9f257 Shahar Talmi: fix($rootScope): $watchCollection should handle NaN in objects...
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[18:48:04] <jaawerth> upsell5: well the usual workflow is to use node.js with grunt or gulp to serve your files. Sometimes you can get away with just bringing them up locally but that can run into issues with your browser's security policies not pulling local code/files in certain situations
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[18:48:28] <upsell5> jaawerth: oh I see, makes sense thanks.
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[18:48:58] <jaawerth> upsell5: sure thing. if you aren't familiar with grunt or gulp, usually the easiest way to get started is with yeoman, which will automate a lot of that for you and scaffold out a web app that you can modify
[18:49:17] <upsell5> gasp
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[18:49:30] <upsell5> (that’s not a framework)
[18:49:33] <upsell5> ok cool
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[18:49:51] <sriram-dev> is there any way to read a .xlxs file present in test/ folder from a karma jasmine test case ?
[18:50:02] <quan__> just be aware that yeoman does a lot of stuff, sometimes its a bit much
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[18:50:13] <jaawerth> yeah, they're all dev tools! Once you get comfortable you'll probably want to build your own seed project rather than using yeoman, since a lot of us find we prefer other ways of organizing our code, but at the very least it's a great way to get started
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[18:50:37] <upsell5> i’ll look for a nice nodejs/grunt angular js tutorial
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[18:50:57] <jaawerth> I have no idea whether it's the best one, but it seems to cover the basics
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[18:51:17] <upsell5> i just want to a license to print money, and you have to know angularjs now :)
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[18:51:24] <jaawerth> hahaha
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[18:51:40] <upsell5> before it was a MCSE
[18:51:56] <jaawerth> gross
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[18:52:11] <taybin> I like the slush generator. it generates nice gulp projects
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[18:52:21] <AlexAbraham> hey
[18:52:26] <AlexAbraham> anyone here use angular-strap?
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[18:52:40] <mikehaas763> AlexAbraham: I just use ui-bootstrap
[18:52:50] <mikehaas763> ... just in case you're not aware of it
[18:52:56] <AlexAbraham> right but ui-bootstrap requires jquerry and angular-strap doesn't
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[18:53:09] <taybin> I don't think it does anymore
[18:53:14] <jaawerth> I actually just built the first version of a gulp seed project. I basically started with what was generated by yoeman's (still in beta, but pretty stable) gulp webapp generator and yanked out a bunch of the yeoman stuff and set it up the way I like it
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[18:53:47] <zchrykng> So... any ideas on my question?
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[18:54:01] <AlexAbraham> taybin looks like your right
[18:54:05] <AlexAbraham> :-)
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[18:55:07] <AlexAbraham> was that a recent update that removed jquery?
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[18:56:22] <gnarMatix> how do I use the standard filter with $filter? $filter('filter')(array, filterObj) ?
[18:56:43] <jaawerth> zchrykng: hard to say for sure without seeing it in action. can you put it in a plunk?
[18:57:01] <zchrykng> jaawerth, I can try just a second.
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[19:01:05] <Hekatonkiros> Hello, I have a problem with directive
[19:01:06] <Hekatonkiros> s
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[19:01:27] <cruxeternus> that's what my boss keeps telling me
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[19:01:35] <Hekatonkiros> I need to assign a default to one of the parameters of one directive, but I seem really confused with examples online
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[19:01:53] <robdubya> gnarMatix yes
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[19:03:56] <jaawerth> robdubya: I built a quick and dirty version of my gulp seed project and oh my god I wish I'd switched over months ago
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[19:04:23] <robdubya> gulp is the business
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[19:05:22] <jaawerth> I mean in every way. The speed is crazy, easy to configure, you can code right in your gulp file if you want...
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[19:05:42] <jaawerth> the only real downside I've seen is less of a plugin ecosystem, but it seems to have most of what I want
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[19:09:24] <zchrykng> So anyway, I have no idea why that does not work... it looks like it should as far as I can tell.
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[19:14:38] <TheAceOfHearts> gulp 4 lyf
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[19:15:14] <zchrykng> So... any ideas? I am completely stumped.
[19:15:18] <jaawerth> zchrykng: yeah just looked at it
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[19:15:36] <TheAceOfHearts> zchrykng: enhance your calm
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[19:16:18] <jaawerth> zchrykng: the problem is it's setting selected.provider to an object, so it's showing up blank since it doesn't know what you want to print.
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[19:17:48] <zchrykng> jaawerth, really? ... I thought I had an almost identical construction somewhere else. Let me see...
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[19:21:15] <zchrykng> jaawerth, so yeah... you maybe right but I can't figure out what to change to fix it.
[19:21:24] <zchrykng> afk for a little bit.
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[19:25:35] <upsell5> jaawerth: thanks that link was a good start
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[19:28:30] <jaawerth> zchrykng: change your ng-option to "p.provider as (p.provider) for p in provider" and it will select just the property instead of the whole object for your ng-model. ng-options is weird...
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[19:30:49] <zeroquake> is there site - list of directives available ? i mean made by the community?
[19:31:18] <robdubya> er
[19:32:00] <uf6667> what are directives?
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[19:33:44] <zeroquake> thank you.
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[19:33:50] <okdamn> hello!
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[19:34:39] <okdamn> do you know if its possible to check if a video is porn or not? i mean safe or not ?
[19:34:48] <robdubya> hhahaha
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[19:35:08] <bealtine> see my angualr eyes module
[19:35:10]
<jaawerth> uf6667: That question has a long answer. In a nutshell, they are a core feature of angular that allow you to define custom HTML tags that wrap (optionally) DOM manipulation, templates, all kinds of functionality as reusable components. I recommend reading this intro http://www.sitepoint.com/practical-guide-angularjs-directives/
[19:35:13] <robdubya> statistically speaking, its probably porn
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[19:35:28] <jaawerth> hahaha there's a web app. isitporn.com
[19:35:43] <jaawerth> I just use incognito
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[19:35:59] <jaawerth> nobody here is gonna bust me if I accidentally click on an inappropriate link
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[19:36:48] <bealtine> i guess if there's loads of grunting in the audio track it's porn
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[19:37:12] <robdubya> you could measure the % of pixels that are skin colored
[19:37:22] <jaawerth> gentical image recognition!
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[19:40:26] <okdamn> :P not so easy so ?
[19:40:39] <patrick99e99> hey angular buddies!!!!!!!!! I am just wondering, if anyone here is familiar with ui-router, and if so... is there any way to have an ui-sref property evaluate something on the scope? in other words, I would like to do something like ui-sref='lol()' where my controller could do scope.lol = function () { return 'someRealRouteState({id: 123})' };
[19:40:39] <robdubya> okdamn if you figure it out you'll be a billionaire
[19:40:42] <robdubya> good luck
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[19:40:55] <robdubya> lol no!!!
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[19:41:08] <robdubya> teehee
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[19:41:34] <robdubya> also, prettiestPony11, awesome nick
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[19:41:44] <okdamn> lol guys
[19:41:56] <okdamn> robdubya: how youtube do for censuring?
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[19:41:59] <robdubya> patrick99e99 you can retrieve it from scope
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[19:42:08] <robdubya> that's no problem, i do my navs with ng-repeats
[19:42:08] <okdamn> they use tons of people checking videos everyday ? :P
[19:42:11] <wafflejock> okdamn: they have tons of image recognition stuff
[19:42:14] <wafflejock> and lots ofstaff
[19:42:16] <prettiestPony11> robdubya: thank you sir :D
[19:42:19] <okdamn> wafflejock: ah ok :)
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[19:42:40] <wafflejock> okdamn: yeah I mean look at google street view it blurs all the license plates and faces and that's a ton of data
[19:43:04] <wafflejock> I'm sure they just use some nipple finding algorithm or the like, there is Open CV that can help but it's definitely not angular work
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[19:43:13] <okdamn> sure eheh its like i want to do the same alone quite impossible indeed
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[19:43:32] <okdamn> ok no problem i'll accept porn videos on my gym website for gym videos
[19:43:34] <okdamn> why not?
[19:43:36] <okdamn> ;)
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[19:44:02] <patric100e99> robdubya: That's odd because I am not experiencing scope being available. I am doing an anchor tag with an ng-repeat, and then setting a ui-sref on those repeated objects, and I would like to be able to set the ui-sref based off of the scope...
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[19:44:08] <wafflejock> okdamn: yeah if it's for a video upload site I would think manually curating incoming videos and just flagging them on the way in is probably the easiest way
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[19:44:47] <okdamn> wafflejock: yeah we poor dudes cant do much about :P
[19:44:53] <okdamn> no problems :(
[19:44:54] <okdamn> thank you
[19:44:58] <wafflejock> yup np
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[19:45:55] <okdamn> ok spaghetti time!
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[19:46:12] <okdamn> have nice angular coding guys, angular is better than pasta trust me i am italian
[19:46:17] <okdamn> ciaooo!
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[19:46:37] <wafflejock> later... time to deal with spaghetti code here
[19:46:40] <sriram-dev> robdubya I have served a text file by including in karma. How can i access it from within jasmine now. Any idea ? i want a blob of it there
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[19:47:32] <patric100e99> robdubya: so-- I just did: data-ng-repeat = 'listItem in newItems' ui-sref = 'lol()' ... and then my controller i have scope.lol = function () { return 'Users({id: 1})' };
[19:47:47] <robdubya> now i'm gonna spend all damn day reading about nipple detection algorithms
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[19:47:59] <robdubya> patric100e99 dont use a function
[19:48:02] <patric100e99> robdubya: but then when I hover over all my links, they have no hrefs... But if I just do ui-sref = 'Users({id: 1})' .. then I do get urls.
[19:48:10] <robdubya> assign the state via a property
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[19:48:23] <robdubya> ui-sref="listitem.state"
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[19:49:55] <ckboii89> test
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[19:50:15] <ckboii89> hey @robdubya mate
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[19:50:31] <zchrykng> Thanks jaawerth, that would have taken me forever to figure out.
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[19:50:58] <robdubya> ckboii89 sup
[19:51:44] <ckboii89> so i followed your advice and the autofill works great, but what if its another json key im trying to get?
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[19:52:47] <robdubya> what do you mean "another json key"
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[19:54:15] <patric100e99> robdubya: I just tried that, and it does not seem to be working. I did listItem.state, and set the state property of that listItem to something, and there is no href when I hover over it.
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[19:54:39] <patric100e99> robdubya: are you certain that this actually is supported by ui-router? It seemed to me that when you put something in ui-sref it is not looking at the scope but rather just looking at state names... ?
[19:54:48] <robdubya> i'm certain
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[19:54:58] <robdubya> more certain than anything i've ever been certain in my life
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[19:55:40] <patric100e99> robdubya: that's very certain. do you have any idea of why it might not be working for me?
[19:55:44] <jaawerth> patric100e99: it looks at the registered state names for a match but it looks at scope for what you've set in ui-sref
[19:55:57] <ckboii89> @robdubya im trying to get the textarea to fill with the data under "description" from fakejson.data
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[19:56:15] <sriram-dev> Can any Karma folks help with this? I want to access a file from Jasmine unit test. This file is served via Karma to browser. What is the way to do this
[19:56:15] <robdubya> patric100e99 it matches based on the relative state, iirc
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[19:56:34] <jaawerth> unless you specify an absolute path
[19:56:52] <jaawerth> well, that's more for views I guess
[19:57:10] <zumba_addict> hey folks, what do you use to detect the language a browser is using? $locale.id isn't working. It only works when we load the locale file
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<patric100e99> jaawerth: so you are saying I could actually do ui-sref = 'listItem.state' --- and in the controller do scope.listItems[0].state = 'http://google.com', and I should see that href?
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[19:57:29] <jaawerth> ummm
[19:58:23] <jaawerth> patric100e99: your states are what you register in your app.config, they aren't just urls - they figure out the url automatically
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[19:59:47] <jaawerth> patric100e99: so if you have ui-sref="main.daffodils" and you've registered main.daffodils as a state that has url "/daffodils" in your app.config, the url will be "myserver.com/#/daffodils" (with or without the /# depending on whether you're using html5mode, naturally)
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[20:00:36] <jaawerth> I don't know why daffodils popped into my head as an example
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[20:00:39] <jaawerth> that's kinda weird
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[20:01:33] <jaawerth> robdubya: nice animations in there
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[20:04:37] <AlexAbraham> hey
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[20:04:43] <AlexAbraham> anyone here use ui-bootstrap
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[20:04:52] <AlexAbraham> I am having trouble with a dropdown menu
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[20:05:01] <AlexAbraham> it wont collapse when I click on something
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[20:05:35] <patric100e99> jaawerth: ok-- what i am trying to do is dynamically have a ui-sref state set based on what listItem is.. so if listItem.foo is true, i want ui-sref to be dragons({id: 1}).. if it's false I want luckyCharms({id: 1})
[20:05:55] <mmitchell> i'd like to use controllerAs in my directive, but i'm confused about directive scope. Are directives still take their HTML attributes and sending them to scope, or is there a way to set them on the directive controller?
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[20:06:30] <optikalmouse> my production app is down
[20:06:36] <optikalmouse> thanks to minification problems :S
[20:06:59] <optikalmouse> I have the modules all loading in a concat'd plugins.js, then my code loads up in script.sj
[20:07:16] <jaawerth> patric100e99: afk for 10 minutes but that's definitely possible - I'll give you a hand when I get back
[20:07:17] <optikalmouse> but when it gets to my module, it says the modules it depends on don't exist (though they were already declared)
[20:07:23] <jaawerth> (if rob doesn't beat me to it, which he might)
[20:07:39] <robdubya> not likely, my shiny new sensortags just arrived from TI
[20:07:59] <robdubya> patric100e99 you basically have two choices
[20:08:13] <robdubya> ui-sref="someProperty.someStateName"
[20:08:14] <robdubya> or
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[20:08:19] <robdubya> ng-click="someFunction()"
[20:08:24] <robdubya> and some function calls state.go
[20:08:49] <patric100e99> robdubya: i need to have a url-- so ng-click is no go. the someProperty.someStateName does not work...
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[20:09:10] <robdubya> it works, you're just doing it wrong. you should post some code.
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[20:10:42] <jaawerth> could always write your own directive that does the conditional ui-sref (okay this time I'm stepping away for real!)
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[20:12:28] <optikalmouse> you've gotta be kidding
[20:12:33] <optikalmouse> there's a bug in one of the libs I was using.
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[20:12:46] <optikalmouse> uncaught type error which broke everything else for over an hour of downtime now :|
[20:13:24] <ckboii89> @robdubya did you get my reply to you??
[20:13:32] <mmitchell> anyone using controllerAs in a directive?
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[20:14:05] <robdubya> ckboii89 so the way ng-options works
[20:14:09] <robdubya> is
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[20:14:29] <robdubya> well
[20:14:31] <robdubya> you probably just want
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[20:14:49] <Foxandxss> mmitchell: not me, but just ask
[20:14:50] <robdubya> treatment as treatment.service for treatment in...
[20:15:05] <robdubya> which would set the *object* (instead of the primitive value)
[20:15:09] <ckboii89> im trying to get the description for that particular chose treatement
[20:15:22] <ckboii89> chosen*
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[20:16:06] <robdubya> like that
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[20:16:34] <robdubya> valueToReturn as valueToDisplay for value in values...
[20:17:07] <ckboii89> oh nice!
[20:17:08] <ckboii89> thank you
[20:17:20] <patric100e99> I just changed that to do foo.state --- and in the foo.js file I set the state of the first foo item to be what the route was doing before ^.fooDetail ... and it clearly does not work
[20:17:21] <robdubya> patric100e99 that's the plunker i sent you...
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[20:17:30] <patric100e99> robdubya: right-- i changed it
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[20:17:48] <mmitchell> ok yeah, my question is about directives and controllerAs. I setup an isolated scope ({foo: "="}) and pass in a value from my HTML (<mydir foo="x"></mydir>) -- The "foo" attribute is obviously on the scope object, but it feels strange now that I'm using a controller ("this") _and_ scope to deal with these attributes. Is that the way it's supposed to work?
[20:17:52] <robdubya> well it still works over yonder
[20:18:30] <mmitchell> I'm half-way expecting the directive attributes to be set on my controller (due to the use of controllerAs), not scope
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[20:18:44] <patric100e99> robdubya: nope-- i just tried the link and clicking on the foo items do not do anything.. there is no href when you hover
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[20:20:13] <kirfu|work> ng-boilerplate vs yeoman angular? Which one do you guys prefer?
[20:20:20] <Foxandxss> none
[20:20:32] <kirfu|work> foxandxss: which one do you prefer then?
[20:20:44] <Foxandxss> your custom gulp/grunt is the best
[20:21:00] <kirfu|work> anyone else?
[20:21:08] <robdubya> i agree with fox
[20:21:12] <robdubya> gulp > everything
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[20:21:28] <Foxandxss> having to force you on certain tasks
[20:21:30] <kirfu|work> so simply because of gulp you guys wouldn't use any of those?
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[20:21:34] <Foxandxss> having to rewrite them to your needs
[20:21:41] <Foxandxss> da fuq
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[20:21:49] <Foxandxss> just do it from zero and you're good to go
[20:21:51] <kirfu|work> Well you could always modify them… < that's faster then starting from scratch.
[20:21:55] <Foxandxss> and just carry your gulpfile over every project
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[20:22:13] <robdubya> sure, the problem with yeoman etc is that nobody ever bothers to learn wtf is actually happening
[20:22:24] <Foxandxss> no
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[20:22:26] <robdubya> nawimsaying
[20:22:28] <Foxandxss> the problem with yeoman is...
[20:22:31] <Foxandxss> you create the project
[20:22:32] <patric100e99> robdubya: were you able to see the plunkr with the ui-sref not working?
[20:22:33] <Foxandxss> you fire karma
[20:22:36] <Foxandxss> you get like 5 errors
[20:22:37] <Foxandxss> WTF
[20:22:41] <Foxandxss> new project, already errors
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[20:22:49] <Foxandxss> so you have to dive into their tasks, their configs
[20:22:53] <Foxandxss> to see where is the errior
[20:23:30] <robdubya> patric100e99 i dont think its goign to do what you want
[20:23:38] <Foxandxss> they presume some conventions that you shouldn't have to follow
[20:23:47] <Foxandxss> kirfu|work: a custom gulp file is 50-100 lines
[20:23:49] <Foxandxss> that is 1 hour
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[20:24:46] <TheAceOfHearts> haha
[20:25:00] <patric100e99> robdubya: ok thank you
[20:25:02] <zeroquake> how do i get angular js bootstrap through maven ?
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[20:25:34] <patric100e99> robdubya: so you were wrong -- scope properties are not available inside ui-sref ... ?
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[20:25:42] <Foxandxss> through maven?
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[20:27:00] <ckboii89> hey @robdubya did you do treatment as treament.service because of the async_selected_treatment so that treatment is set as the object?
[20:27:01] <robdubya> patric100e99 scope properties are absolutely available
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[20:27:15] <patric100e99> robdubya: then please explain why it isn't going to be possible to do what I want?
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[20:27:34] <robdubya> because you're trying to switch it out dynamically
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[20:27:39] <robdubya> look at how the nav works
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[20:28:02] <zeroquake> i use maven , tried geting the angular-bootstrap jar from maven central - do you what the repository link is?
[20:28:07] <patric100e99> robdubya: but i just want to see an example of ui-sref = "foo.prop" where the controller sets prop to something that actually renders a href that works
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[20:28:17] <patric100e99> robdubya: i have not been able to see that happen
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[20:29:16] <robdubya> look. in. the. nav. bar.
[20:29:25] <oniijin> lol
[20:29:37] <blackkbot> look not found :-P
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[20:29:45] <robdubya> oh hai oniijin
[20:29:54] <oniijin> supsup robdubya
[20:29:57] <oniijin> bad morning
[20:30:02] <robdubya> agreed
[20:30:10] <oniijin> wife's car is goin byebye
[20:30:15] <oniijin> so need to figure out what to do
[20:30:17] <robdubya> totalled?
[20:30:21] <blackkbot> are you going to murder her?
[20:30:22] <robdubya> buy a WRX. i love mine.
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[20:30:35] <oniijin> engine is burning oil insanely fast, and some other issues
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[20:30:45] <robdubya> ick
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[20:30:47] <bradmc> robdubya jsut went up a notch in my book of notches
[20:30:50] <robdubya> what kind of car?
[20:31:01] <robdubya> bradmc whyfor?
[20:31:02] <oniijin> dunno if i want to buy now, or do a short term lease until after we move
[20:31:05] <bradmc> wrx
[20:31:11] <nicolas_leonidas> I have no clue what to look for how to learn more about what it means and why it's caused, any comments help would be appreciated
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[20:31:21] <oniijin> robdubya she has an 05 altima
[20:31:25] <robdubya> bradmc i'm a subaru whore, my '15 is my third :D
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[20:31:37] <bradmc> cool
[20:31:41] <bradmc> I like them
[20:31:43] <oniijin> i bought my mom an outback few years ago
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[20:31:48] <robdubya> 11wrx, 13brz, 15wrx
[20:31:54] <robdubya> the new outbacks are rad too
[20:32:02] <bradmc> surprisingly I liked driving the forester more than thed outback
[20:32:13] <robdubya> oniijin i bought, but you can lease a forester / impreza for like 200 bucks a month
[20:32:19] <blackkbot> oniijin i haven't been impressed with nissan i know a few people who had a different cars of theirs the past 10 years and they all failed exactly at the same mileage in the same way
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[20:32:48] <robdubya> my SO has a 13 impreza wagon, perfect wifey car
[20:32:49] <oniijin> basically, she needs a car for about 1 year
[20:33:11] <oniijin> do they do leases that short? never leased a car so no idea
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[20:33:53] <blackkbot> leases are usually for 2 years idk about 1
[20:33:56] <robdubya> afaik 2 yeears is about as shrot as you'll get
[20:34:00] <robdubya> usually 3 is the standard
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[20:34:20] <robdubya> my family often gets leases through D&M (in dallas)
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[20:34:33] <robdubya> they'll usually do a short term on a used new-model too
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[20:34:57] <robdubya> might give them a ring, PM me if you want a contact there
[20:35:18] <bradmc> robdubya: you're in Dallas/
[20:35:19] <blackkbot> dodge does 1 year leases apparently because their cars burst into flames randomly in your garage
[20:35:29] <robdubya> bradmc austin
[20:35:29] <blackkbot> or was that gm
[20:35:33] <oniijin> i guess right now trying to decide if i want to lease if it's more than a year
[20:35:48] <bradmc> robdubya: ah ok. I'm in tulsa...get to Dallas sometimes
[20:35:51] <oniijin> blackkbot yeah no american cars
[20:35:53] <blackkbot> really rob me too... or round rock
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[20:36:46] <jaawerth> patric100e99: To access scope variables you just need to use double bracket notation {{ }}
[20:37:01] <patric100e99> jaawerth: yeahhh... just noticed that one. THANKS A BUNCH
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[20:37:12] <jaawerth> haha, whoops, guess I needn't have written up the plunk
[20:37:14] <jaawerth> sorry for the delay
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[20:37:26] <jaawerth> but work takes precedence ;-)
[20:37:38] <Foxandxss> Uh dallas, I would buy a gas monkey garage car tehre :P
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[20:37:56] <robdubya> THAT FUNKY MONKEY
[20:38:20] <bradmc> yep
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[20:38:39] <oniijin> ok chattin with D&M online
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[20:39:02] <Foxandxss> robdubya: all tv shows are on texas
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[20:39:14] <Foxandxss> at least the ones I like
[20:39:14] <robdubya> fuckin a
[20:39:32] <jaawerth> robdubya: actually, question for you re: doing corporate portals with ui-router. Assuming every user has pre-configurable dashlets that use ui-router, and those will come from a database - are you just preloading ALL possible dashlets with $stateProvider in app.config, lazy-loading them somehow, or using a messy server-side templating approach?
[20:39:32] <robdubya> 2014 leggy $137/month
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[20:39:45] <jaawerth> I'm trying to decide on the best approach to take
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[20:39:49] <robdubya> jaawerth uhhh whats a dashlet
[20:39:50] <oniijin> robdubya how much down
[20:40:01] <bradmc> robdubya: I was gonna ask the same
[20:40:02] <robdubya> oniijin 2k
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[20:40:08] <oniijin> hmm
[20:40:11] <jaawerth> robdubya: sorry, that's just the shorthand I'm using for widgets on the portal/dashboard
[20:40:15] <bradmc> I'm guessing it's a sub dahsboard based on user
[20:40:24] <robdubya> 2014 impreza $121/ 2k down
[20:40:31] <robdubya> jaawerth ah
[20:40:38] <robdubya> i do one megabundle
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[20:40:42] <jaawerth> I've been working on Alfresco lately and that's what they call their dashboard widgets
[20:40:50] <robdubya> untenable to manage 11ty different builds
[20:40:55] <robdubya> x 11ty different platforms
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[20:41:50] <jaawerth> Alfresco is an AWESOME sharepoint alternative but their interface uses Spring Surf (so, java and markdown) and yui on the frontend.. BUT it also has a very rich restful interface, not to mention CIMS. Basically what I'm planning on doing is writing my portal and using Alfresco as the backend for the content
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[20:42:39] <jaawerth> this will also help me get more concurrency out of alfresco, since I can limit the concurrent requests to it to only REST calls. Plus I can microcache some of the requests from the portal
[20:42:40] <OddDuck> I have what amounts to a fairly involved xml grammer for representing notifications from my application. An Example: <QuestionNotification><title>We need some additional information.</title><questions><question>Your Name?</question></questions></QuestionNotification>
[20:42:40] <OddDuck> My angular app gets an XML representation of the notification like this and then renders it to the user. Right now I'm looking at doing this by defining a bunch of nest-able directives. Is there a better way?
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[20:42:59] <robdubya> death to XML and her allies!
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[20:43:35] <robdubya> good question though, i briefly considered the XML directive approach and then smacked myself in the face and converted it to json
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[20:44:03] <oniijin> robdubya this D&M person seems pushy
[20:44:04] <oniijin> bleh
[20:44:06] <OddDuck> robdubya, haha. So how did you go about converting from json to renderable html?
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[20:44:20] <robdubya> oniijin still car salesmen :D
[20:44:24] <oniijin> i know
[20:44:38] <robdubya> oniijin the dudes at georgetown subaru are stand up though
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[20:45:00] <oniijin> honestly just need a car for a year
[20:45:06] <oniijin> dont really care what it is
[20:45:17] <robdubya> i reckon you're not gonna be able to do a 1 year anywhere
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[20:45:36] <robdubya> im out. bbiab.
[20:45:59] <TorchDragon> Just grab a "throw-away" for < $2500.
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[20:46:12] <oniijin> yeah that's an option too
[20:46:16] <TorchDragon> If you don't care if it falls apart after 12 months, that's probably your best bet.
[20:46:20] <TorchDragon> Anything else is going to cost too much.
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[20:46:30] <TorchDragon> Unless you can just throw $25k at a car and not care.
[20:46:40] <reduce> Im creating a workflow editor, the workflow can be loaded from the server as json. In a traditional oop language i would have certain methods on each activity, like GetChildren(), RemoveChild(child) with implementations for each activity class. At the moment i have a those methods separately (an ActivityDefinition service in angular), and they accept the activity they act upon as first param. Ive avoided having the methods on the activities directly
[20:46:41] <reduce> because id have to process the deserialized json to add them. Would best practice be to use javascript inheritence?
[20:46:42] <robdubya> yeah cragislist a honda
[20:46:43] <oniijin> I can, but I would care
[20:46:44] <oniijin> lol
[20:46:53] <TorchDragon> :) In which case I'd still say throw $2.5k on the car and then do something really fun with the other $22.5k
[20:47:04] <oniijin> sooo many strippers
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[20:47:09] <reduce> (fyi a workflow is sinply a graph of activities)
[20:47:14] <mmitchell> i'm getting the feeling that controllerAs is not really so useful in directives, or at least, it adds more code/confusion. Related ... Is controllerAs experimental in 1.2.0 and will it be in 1.3.0?
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[20:47:27] <robdubya> dont craigslist an old scubaru, literally everythingin the $2500 range is going to have head gasket issues
[20:47:55] <oniijin> get her a goddamn $50 bicycle with handlebar tassles
[20:47:56] <TorchDragon> reduce: json doesn't store objects, just representations of objects that can be deserialized.
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[20:48:15] <TorchDragon> reduce: Probably want to have a factory that can "hydrate" a fully formed object from your data.
[20:48:21] <blackkbot> if you are in texas you can't bike...
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<jaawerth> robdubya: actually you might be interested in this, given the kind of enterprise stuff you do. Here's the free/open source version http://www.alfresco.com/community - if you ever have an interest in giving it a spin, I can give you the links to download without having to give them your contact info - the main page annoyingly has you fill out a form so they can try to sell you the enterprise version, the direct download links are hidden in the wiki
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[20:50:01] <TorchDragon> reduce: And I totally read your post wrong so ignore what I just said...
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[20:50:05] <jaawerth> robdubya: it's basically a sharepoint alternative built on java, postgres/mysq/other database options, apache solr, and a few other technologies. Supports CMIS, CIFS, ftp, REST, SOAP, bunch of other crap
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[20:51:38] <reduce> TorchDragon: 1 option would be to pass the deserialized json objects (ie Activities) to a function which would append the relavent functions to each based on the "class" of activity
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[20:52:17] <TorchDragon> reduce: Either way you're talking about a factory pattern.
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[20:52:32] <reduce> makes use of a revivor function in ES6, but im not sure if IE8 supports that
[20:52:46] <TorchDragon> :) Wouldn't bet on that.
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[20:54:57] <reduce> hrm, msdn says it is supported in ' Internet Explorer 8 standards'
[20:55:08] <ajf-> how do you insert elements into $scope dynamically from anywhere in the html, using a <script> tag? basically something like $(document).load() for angular, that loads these items into scope when it's ready ?
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[20:55:54] <ajf-> ng-init ?
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[21:04:29] <zeroquake> for tooltips is there directive -- which can position it depending on space available on top , left, right?
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[21:05:28] <spencercarnage> ajf- I’m thinking you would do that in a directive?
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[21:05:50] <jobelenus> zeroquake: you mean the angular-bootstrap tooltip/popover? yea it has a position, but "auto" works too
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[21:06:36] <zeroquake> Can we set default behaviour to it ? ---> if you have space on top and right ---- show it on right?
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[21:08:44] <spencercarnage> That will explain the options available to you.
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[21:09:20] <wafflejock> ajf-: it doesn't really make sense to do so
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[21:10:49] <wafflejock> ajf-: you shouldn't have much logic or data in the view, like spencercarnage said you might have a directive that you pass in some data but typically you just do your view-model setup in the controller with backing from factories or services
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[21:11:48] <wafflejock> ajf-: ng-init has 1 very specific use case for ng-repeat see the docs on ng-init for details
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[21:12:33] <ajf-> I just want to dynamically populate a scope variable through a <script> tag in the middle of the page
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[21:12:41] <wafflejock> ajf-: why?
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[21:13:03] <zeroquake> It has popover-position --- > but what happens when the popover has no space on top ?
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[21:13:09] <ajf-> Because I want to fill it with some posts that are returned on a PHP file
[21:13:22] <wafflejock> ajf-: better to have your PHP return JSON and use $http
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[21:13:30] <wafflejock> ajf-: don't have your PHP write the view code
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[21:13:46] <ajf-> no, this is WordPress
[21:13:50] <wafflejock> ah
[21:14:13] <wafflejock> well you're in dirty territory to start then :)
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[21:14:38] <wafflejock> ajf-: you can just have PHP write out the javascript to a global object that you then grab in the controller code
[21:14:48] <ajf-> wafflejock: that's what i'm after
[21:14:50] <wafflejock> ajf-: it's an ugly option but it works
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[21:15:09] <ajf-> currently I'm saving var myPosts = [] ...., and then ng-init="elements = myPosts"
[21:15:11] <ajf-> is that the way ?
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[21:15:29] <wafflejock> ajf-: yeah would just drop the ng-init and do the assignment in the controller
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[21:15:54]
<shred> Hey anyone have simple idea how i could improve the design of my app... not involving photoshop please. : http://i.imgur.com/KDSi2sF.png
[21:15:56] <wafflejock> ajf-: like $scope.myModel = {myPosts:myPosts};
[21:15:57] <snapwich> just do: app.value("posts": <?= json_encode($posts) ?>);
[21:16:00] <snapwich> or something
[21:16:04] <snapwich> and then inject it
[21:16:32] <wafflejock> snapwich: ah yeah that'll keep it out of global space good call
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[21:17:09] <wafflejock> found with json_encode you need to explicitly write code to check for errors just a heads up to anyone when using that (particularly if UTF8 characters might be involved)
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[21:18:39] <ajf-> snapwich: now, can I use Module.value() when this script is before angular and the angular module code loads ?
[21:18:47] <wafflejock> ajf-: so I know only a little about WordPress but is there really know RESTful API built into it that can communicate with JSON?
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[21:18:56] <ajf-> like, in the middle of the page, and the rest of the angular is at the bottom
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[21:19:11] <wafflejock> ajf-: nope you'd need angular to load before you create a module
[21:19:28] <wafflejock> know/no*
[21:19:45] <ajf-> that's what I was asking for some kind of $(document).load() but for angular. Something that waits until everything is setup and then injects this value
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[21:21:05] <shackleford> does anyone know what the .us doc type is?
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[21:32:42] <ajf-> shred: I think it looks good. A shameful alternative is to go and find one of those "admin themes" from themeforest
[21:33:00] <ajf-> but you're probably going to get more trouble than you're asking for with it
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[21:33:35] <nickeddy> how do you do k,v pairs in an ng-repeat? ng-repeat="(key, value) in obj" ?
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[21:36:20] <erpipefish> nickeddy yes
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[21:37:47] <shred> ajf-: yeah that is a good idea im going to go look
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[21:41:08] <jaawerth> wafflejock: I THINK they're working on getting a full rest api. one sec, I know a guy who works for wordpress.com (who also do a lot of the development for WP itself), I'll ask him
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[21:42:56] <wafflejock> jaawerth: ah yeah thx thought I saw this when I was looking through it last time
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[21:44:10] <wafflejock> just slipped my mind... not sure what it would take to expose the stuff you need ajf- but that is probably a better option in the long run... I've made some angular stuff and implemented oEmbed by setting up a PHP file on my server so it could pull in some stuff that uses angular and just runs on my server but can be embedded in WordPress, it's another option
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[21:45:01] <wafflejock> I made a plugin file and the oEmbed so from the users perspective it's basically like loading a plugin and for me I get to keep working on my own server in a little isolated environent separated from WordPress but it depends on what kind of integration is needed
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[21:45:32] <ajf-> wafflejock: definitely RESTifying wp is the better option, but sometimes I'd just like to do: <script>posts = json_encode(posts)</script><div ng-controller="ASideBarWidgetProbably"> ...do stuff </div>
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[21:45:53] <wafflejock> ajf-: yeah I mean you can do it your just putting stuff in the global space it's not the end of the world
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[21:46:26] <jaawerth> there's also a plugin I believe, that might allow you to build more into the REST API
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[21:47:22] <ajf-> yeah there are many, but there's a security issue for me also with exposing wp to rest. I don't trust WP_Query that much and there's also the (we should convert our whole template to angular then) issue, which might not be in the best interests of stakeholders
[21:47:32] <jaawerth> ahh
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[21:47:51] <jaawerth> well there's the rub
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[21:48:08] <jaawerth> I mean, once you're using Angular, using a framework that does server-side rendering just feels wasteful
[21:48:36] <ajf-> right why don't we just switch to a node application then
[21:48:40] <jaawerth> I'm sort of dealing with the same conundrum right now while building my company's corporal portal. I considered using Drupal or Liferay but ultimately decided I didn't want to deal with it
[21:48:53] <ajf-> ng.value is the way but implies some changes to the templates
[21:49:04] <ajf-> Module.value()
[21:49:06] <jaawerth> The main benefit being all the publishing/user editing tools already exist and are both stable and supported
[21:49:11] <nicolas_leonidas> I have a jquery template that does not work when loading new partials, what's the best practice to deal with that issue?
[21:49:18] <jaawerth> anything on node would require a lot of custom code to maintain, debug, and troubleshoot
[21:49:26] <nicolas_leonidas> should I call the jquery initializers within the controller?
[21:49:26] <hnordt> "angular.element('[name="issue.message"]').focus();" in an app controller is bad?
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[21:49:38] <jaawerth> on the other hand, it's all so simple in comparison since you're just throwing a bunch of JSON around
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[21:50:54] <jaawerth> hnordt: In general, anything that directly modifies the DOM should be done on a directive. Among other reasons, this guarantees that the DOM you're trying to manipulate 1) exists and 2) has already been compiled and linked
[21:51:13] <hnordt> thank you jaawerth
[21:51:16] <jaawerth> sure thing
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[21:52:02] <zumba_addict> why is it that when we load a $locale file, it takes effect immediately instead of having it detect the language our browser is using?
[21:52:06] <jaawerth> I like to think of it this way: services and factories are the data/model, controllers expose (and maybe transform) the model to the scope where it can be accessed via the view, and directives and templates are for actually creating and manipulating the view
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[21:56:31] <jaawerth> zumba_addict: been a lonnng time since I've looked at localization stuff, but IIRC, by design the act of loading the locale file overrides whatever the default is.
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[21:56:34] <xastey> anyone know of a directive for custom css scrollbar
[21:56:45] <zumba_addict> got it
[21:56:48] <xastey> looked at ui-scroll but doesn't look like it supports a custom css scrollbar
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[21:56:54] <zumba_addict> i may need to look for a different solution then jaawerth
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[21:57:10] <zumba_addict> I've already seen a library which uses i18n-next
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[21:57:28] <jaawerth> zumba_addict: I could be wrong. This isn't something I really needed to deal with since most of my development is internal to my company
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[21:57:47] <zumba_addict> yup, you don't need if it's internal
[21:58:13] <zumba_addict> ours will be accessed from different places. First guinea pig is some part in europe
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[21:58:17] <ckboii89> how do i do a post request in angular?
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[21:58:28] <zumba_addict> read about $http ckboii89
[21:58:38] <zumba_addict> tons of plunker out there
[21:58:46] <ckboii89> sorry ok
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[21:58:51] <jaawerth> xastey: I'm not sure I understand the question? If it's a CSS scrollbar you can just use CSS to set it. Granted you could always write a directive whose template includes CSS to override that element's scrollbar (or the page's, or whatever you need to do), but the main work would still be CSS
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[22:01:40] <bradmc> zumba_addict: are you really a zumba addict?
[22:01:48] <zumba_addict> no :)
[22:01:49] <quan__> like crack
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[22:02:00] <quan__> tearing him apart
[22:02:01] <bradmc> or do you just like to WATCH zumba
[22:02:04] <bradmc> ;-)
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[22:02:16] <zumba_addict> just couldn't think of any nick bradmc :) I don't even like to watch zumba
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[22:02:22] <bradmc> gotcha
[22:02:24] <bradmc> just wondering
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[22:02:29] <zumba_addict> :)
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[22:03:25] <Foxandxss> what's zumba anyway?
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[22:07:43] <apipkin> Foxandxss: like fitness “dancing” or something like that
[22:07:58] <Foxandxss> I see
[22:08:09] <Foxandxss> zumbar is an spanish word
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[22:08:21] <Foxandxss> could be used in a sexual way or to smack someone
[22:08:22] <apipkin> What does that mean in spanish?
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[22:08:35] <oniijin> "fat chicks dancing badly in leotards"
[22:08:53] <Foxandxss> more on an aggresive way
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[22:09:39] <apipkin> Foxandxss: to buzz, hum, whirr, to ring? haha but you said in a sexual way hahahahaha
[22:10:01] <Foxandxss> I am going to kick your ass
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[22:10:06] <Foxandxss> that is one example of sentence
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[22:10:18] <Foxandxss> "te voy a zumbar"
[22:10:45] <jaawerth> Foxandxss: it's like... jazzercise, but more modern and trendy. And a better workout, from what I've heard. It tends to be more popular with ladies
[22:10:47] <apipkin> maybe that’s how it got it’s name. I think it “originated from brazil” according to marketing
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[22:11:16] <jaawerth> fun fact: a zumba studio in the town I grew up in got busted a couple years ago - turns out it was a front for a prostitution ring
[22:11:18] <apipkin> jaawerth: i think that’s a good way to put it… modern jazzercise
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[22:11:53] <jaawerth> Since it got busted and shut down, somebody bought the building and reopened it - as a zumba studio
[22:12:01] <jaawerth> troll or clever marketing - you decide!
[22:12:44] <ajk27> Heh, time for newer jazzier prostitutes
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<AngularUI> [ng-grid] drawyan opened pull request #1297: Fix bug for aggregate setExpand not updating icon (master...patch-1) http://git.io/jhSzgQ
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[22:22:42] <foobarbazbat> trying to run the "phonecat" tutorial project. I get this error on "npm start" -- npm WARN This failure might be due to the use of legacy binary "node" --- I installed "nodejs-legacy" and made sure the symlink is there, but I still get the error (linux mint)
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[22:23:50] <foobarbazbat> never mind.. changed the port away from 8000
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<AngularUI> [ng-grid] chandramuralis opened pull request #1298: Fixed issue in ng-grid-pdf-export plugin (master...ng-grid-pdf-export) http://git.io/Avrtrw
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[22:40:12] <dmack> anyone found a better boilerplate for new projects other than NGBP? still feel like it's the gold standard of how to setup a project
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[22:48:35] <ishi> dmack: what's NGBP?
[22:48:41] * ishi googles for it
[22:48:45] <oniijin> boilerplate
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[22:50:43] <ishi> yeah... found it
[22:50:51] <ishi> what's wrong with this 'yo' thing?
[22:51:06] <ishi> I'm not trying to say it's better... I'm just asking...
[22:51:11] <dmack> I haven't found a generator that properly follows the google suggested structure
[22:51:28] <ishi> oh... where the 'google suggested structure' is described?
[22:51:28] <dmack> more modular, versus throwing everything into controllers/views/directives/services folders
[22:51:38] <ishi> to be honest, I wanted to see something like this for a long time.
[22:51:52] <ishi> I mean... 'a suggested structure'
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[22:52:59] <ngbot> angular.js/master bcf72ca rodyhaddad: revert: feat(*): lazy one-time binding support...
[22:52:59] <ngbot> angular.js/master 86d55c1 rodyhaddad: perf(*): more performant interpolation and lazy one-time binding...
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[22:53:42] <reduce> is there much of an overhead binding to a property over binding to a function?
[22:54:04] <dmack> depends what you're function is doing I'd say :)
[22:54:04] <reduce> or, other way about
[22:54:22] <nickeddy> god nested ng-repeats making me go crazy
[22:54:24] <nickeddy> ;(
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[22:55:00] <reduce> this function would simply be returning the value from a property
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[22:56:02] <reduce> its purpose is just to provide a consistent interface, (the property to bind to changes from model object to model object)
[22:56:10] <ishi> cheers
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[22:56:16] <ishi> I'm reading/watching :)
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[22:57:18] <jaawerth> reduce: technically binding to a function is more expensive because it has to go through an extra function call and return the value every time, even if the digest just wants to check whether the value has changed. However, in practice this shouldn't hurt you much unless you've got it in a big ng-repeat or the function is particularly expensive
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[22:58:39] <Hultis> Hi, I'm kinda new to angular and I'm trying to make a directive however I'm running into some problems
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[22:58:53] <ngbot> angular.js/master 7e6e0d6 rodyhaddad: test(ngOptions): ensure that one-time bindings works in ngOptions...
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[23:00:43] <Hultis> I want to filter the data and customize the template before rendering it
[23:01:00] <Hultis> As I might not want all all columns, etc
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[23:01:39] <Hultis> However as I don't have access to the parent scope in compile I can't use $parse on the attribute to get my parameters
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[23:02:07] <jaawerth> Hultis: well, this may not be related but I noticed your controller property in your directive definition has a typo ;-)
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[23:02:55] <Hultis> And hence not modify the behaviour of the directive based on the data in the "params" object
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[23:03:24] <Hultis> jaawerth: Yeah I added that myself while playing around as I'm not really using the controller right now
[23:03:38] <gnarMatix> any ui.router pro's here?
[23:04:21] <gnarMatix> I want to have `/:language` prepend all my urls & run a resolve to set the language
[23:04:22] <jaawerth> Hultis: well, you don't need access to parent scope to modify the data in params. If you use params: '=' instead of '@' then the data will do two-way binding instead of 1-way
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[23:04:53] <gnarMatix> is there anyways to do that without explicitly prepending all my urls or setting a base abstract state
[23:04:57] <jaawerth> Hultis: just make sure you don't overwrite the reference to the params object on either end by trying to assign it a brand new object and you should be good
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[23:05:11] <Hultis> jaawerth: But attr.params will still only return a string "StatReports"
[23:05:33] <jaawerth> Hultis: yeah, attr.params will actually grab the attribute. But $scope.params will have the full object
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[23:06:00] <Hultis> jaawerth: Yeah but I can't access $scope in compiler right
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[23:06:23] <jaawerth> Hultis: Nope. You'd need to do it from either the link function or directive's controller
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[23:06:30] <Hultis> And I want to use the params to modify the template and data input to the template
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[23:06:46] <Hultis> Won't the link run after the dom is already rendered?
[23:07:09] <jaawerth> Hultis: Yeah. You might need to use $compile
[23:07:09] <Hultis> Hence having to either rerender everything (redundant)
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[23:07:43] <jaawerth> alternatively you could use a service to inject the data
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[23:07:49] <Hultis> So how'd I use compile to achieve that?
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[23:07:57] <Hultis> How would I get access to the parameters from compile
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[23:08:16] <jaawerth> Hultis: well, how exactly do you need to use the params to modify the template?
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[23:09:04] <Hultis> Well are you familiar with ng-grid? I'm trying to write a simple replacement
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[23:09:25] <Hultis> Which would take parameters in the same way
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[23:09:50] <Hultis> So I could define column headers, what columns to show, sorting order and so on in params
[23:10:17] <Hultis> But right now I'm struggling to do anything at all
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[23:10:29] <Hultis> It's all a bit confusing being brand new to angular
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[23:10:59] <ishi> oh... cool... I'm watching the best practices video...
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[23:11:25] <ishi> and there is an ng-bind directive (attribute)... it'd solve my problem with the ugly title while loading :)
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[23:12:55] <Hultis> jaawerth Do you understand what I'm getting at?
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[23:13:54] <jaawerth> Hultis: Yeah
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[23:14:57] <Hultis> Been stuck here a while now and it feels like I'm jut running in circles
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[23:15:15] <jaawerth> Hultis: one sec, checking something...
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[23:15:33] <Hultis> Yeah sure, thanks for helping
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[23:19:54] <dmack> Interesting problem that similar to what's being discussed. I'm trying to use the $modal angularStrap service from a directive, and it seems that my template doesn't get compiled until I invoke a function from the link method
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[23:23:33] <jaawerth> Hultis: Okay yeah. If you set up the parameters in your controller you should be fine
[23:24:00] <jaawerth> Hultis: In other words, define a controller - it will have access to $scope, including your parameters, and you can use this to set up the data for ng-grid BEFORE it compiles
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[23:25:08] <nickeddy> hmmmmmm i can't get this nested ng-repeat to work. damit
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[23:26:09] <nickeddy> trying to display a list of things within a list of things, and it will display the first item with stuff but no subsequent ones
[23:26:10] <Hultis> You mean in the controller of the directive I set up the parameters for that instance of the directive and the I've got access to those parameters in compile
[23:26:29] <cebor> hi will 1.4 the next stable release or 1.3 ?
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[23:27:39] <jaawerth> Hultis: No, I mean you shouldn't need compile at all. You're just trying to define which columns to use from your data (among other potential filtering) in your ng-grid, right?
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[23:29:10] <Hultis> Um I'm not really using ng-grid I'm just using the same way of defining parameters so I can easily replace ng-grid
[23:29:15] <jaawerth> ah
[23:29:19] <jaawerth> same idea, though
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[23:29:36] <jaawerth> you don't need compile if all you're doing is modifying the data that is going to be used by the template
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[23:30:26] <Hultis> Ok so the controller is run before the compilation
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[23:31:26] <Hultis> Hmm $parse($scope.params) doesn't seem to work in the controller, am I using the $parse function wrong?
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[23:32:39] <Hultis> Oh yeah nvm I should probably use two way binding right
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[23:34:00] <nickeddy> what should i use if i want a service but not singleton? :P
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[23:36:25] <jaawerth> Hultis: well - the benefit here of using one-way binding with '@' would be that you could modify the object directly (say, deleting things) without affecting the object in the parent scope
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[23:37:07] <Hultis> Yeah but when I use @ I only receive the name of the objevt not the data
[23:37:14] <jaawerth> d'oh, right, heh
[23:37:22] <Hultis> *object
[23:37:59] <jaawerth> basically I changed your "data" param to initData (or init-data from the template) and then used the controller to pull relevant values from $scope.initData and stick them in $scope.data
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[23:39:25] <Hultis> You're saying there's easier ways, what do you mean then? I'm still an angular newbie
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[23:40:07] <jaawerth> Hultis: what I'd REALLY do here is just define a custom filter and pipe it through that when using the directive. <bs-grid data="myData | myFilter"> or if you don't want to mess with custom filters yet, you could just grab the relevant rows in the parent scope's controller, put them in an object on scope, and pass THAT into the directive.
[23:40:30] <jaawerth> Hultis: that way the directive need only worry about doing the right thing with the data passed into it, it's up to the directive's user to format the data they're passing in
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[23:41:38] <Hultis> Yeah but that wouldn't work for other params such as changing the table headers
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[23:42:02] <jaawerth> well, not unless you had the headers just be the property names
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[23:42:16] <jaawerth> but for that, you could always do it with the directive controller like I did here
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[23:43:28] <jaawerth> if you didn't want it to just grab the property names, that is
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[23:44:02] <jaawerth> what I'd probably do is have an object for the table data itself, and a second object that maps the column header to its relevant object key
[23:44:04] <Hultis> Yeah, I like using filters, used that when I built the first grid without a directive, the reason I'm doing it like this is because I want to replace a shitload of ng-grids and not having to worry about rewriting the initialization to much
[23:44:29] <Hultis> Because right now the ng-grids are slowing down my application to crippling speed
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[23:45:05] <jaawerth> really? how many rows/cols do you have?
[23:45:12] <Hultis> A lot
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[23:45:35] <Hultis> I've got parts of the app getting 2MB of json-data from the backend
[23:45:35] <dman777_alter> hmm... angular.module('foo.bar').controller('foo', function (... the 'foo.bar' module name is throwing me off.
[23:45:50] <jaawerth> Oh. Then yeah, I can imagine ng-grid slowing you down if you're rendering a ton of rows at once, since it does all sorts of fancing things that require extra watchers and such
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[23:46:15] <dman777_alter> with angular.module('foo.bar') what is foo and what is bar?
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[23:46:48] <Hultis> Yeah I can't really scroll the pages when I've got ng-grid and in the end user citrix environment it crashes
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[23:47:32] <jaawerth> Hultis: IIRC ng-grid has some infinite/virtual scrolling features though, no?
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[23:47:36] <robk> right now I'm trying to lazy load certain data when an ng-repeat element gets rendered, what is an optimal way to load only when ng-repeat item is looped over?..
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[23:48:01] <jaawerth> I'd recommend using either pagination or virtual/infinite scrolling if it's really a ton of data
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[23:48:17] <robk> I tried ng-repeat(loop) ng-controller="<name>" but I don't know how to give the conroller scope of the ng-repeat data on the current row.
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[23:48:45] <Hultis> jaawerth: Yeah but the virtual scrolling is really laggy and the end users doesn't like paginiation and infinte scrolling
[23:48:51] <jaawerth> ah
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[23:49:19] <Hultis> They're 50+ year old ladies who want it to work like their MS Excell
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[23:49:24] <jaawerth> haha
[23:49:41] <trovster> I am using data-ng-repeat="sample in getSamples(area)”, where getSamples returns a new array based on the area. How can I stop the infdig that this is generating? I am using this in the view, so not sure how to assign to a var before iterating.
[23:50:19] <jaawerth> I would think a large enough data set would actually live you with LESS lag with infinite scrolling than with a huge ng-repeat, so long as you aren't waiting for the data to come from the server
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[23:51:34] <Hultis> Well once the page is loaded with a scrollable table (not an ng-grid) there's no lag when scrolling
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[23:52:12] <jaawerth> is this a static table or do they actually want to be able to modify it like excel?
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[23:52:28] <Hultis> Some stuff is modifiable some is static
[23:52:31] <jaawerth> ah
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[23:52:35] <jaawerth> well maybe you'll be fine then
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[23:53:16] <Hultis> I built it first directly in the html file with ng-repeat etc to try out the performance and now I'm trying to transfer my work to an directive so I can replace 30ish ng-grids
[23:53:22] <jaawerth> YMMV, but remember that when you're using ng-repeat, every time you add some sort of watcher (be it a click event, bound variable, etc) to the repeated element(s), that's going to multiply by the number of items
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[23:53:51] <jaawerth> again, you may be fine
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[23:54:29] <Hultis> Yeah I know that but performance seems to be fine when I tested and that's probably the worst grid we've got
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[23:55:18] <jaawerth> trovster: Just set up the variable from the controller. $scope.foo will be accessible as "foo" from the template (inside that controller's scope)
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[23:55:55] <trovster> jaawerth: I have $scope.getSamples = function (area) { return area.get('samples'); }; … maybe I’m not explaining this correctly.
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[23:56:41] <jaawerth> trovster: That's correct - that creates the getSamples function. So now you need to set up the variable you'll be passing into it when you call it from the template. something like $scope.area = length * height; or whatever
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[23:58:14] <jaawerth> trovster: then from your template you can do ng-repeat="sample in getSamples(area)" and it will work. To avoid confusion, you could also do $scope.whatever and then ng-repeat="sample in getSamples(whatever)" - it's passing $scope.whatever into the function you defined earlier
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[23:59:03] <trovster> jaawerth: But the area changes, hence why it is passed in to the function, as I need a new loop sometimes.
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