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[00:00:14] <djam90> oh
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[00:00:28] <djam90> any idea why?
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[00:03:26] <ngbot> [angular.js] matsko pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/9SfQfw
[00:03:26] <ngbot> angular.js/master ca75279 Matias Niemelä: feat($animate): allow directives to cancel animation events...
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[00:04:11] <djam90> robdubya, one thing of note... this issue didn't start until I added the following: scope.clickSeriesFn(scope.activeItem); into the scope.setActive function line 659
[00:04:12] <robdubya> djam90 nope, other than those 404's
[00:04:22] <djam90> if I remove that line
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[00:04:31] <djam90> which stops the filters and results below automatically loading
[00:04:38] <djam90> then it works flawlessly even on ipads
[00:04:45] <djam90> but management want the entire thing to show automagically
[00:04:56] <djam90> so page loads, you see the models, the filters, and the results
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[00:05:48] <djam90> robdubya, you see anything in that that would cause major issues in safari?
[00:06:33] <moogumbo> Is there a simple way to include one ng-template inside another, similar to Rails partials?
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[00:08:01] <moogumbo> I tried declaring <script type="text/ng-template id="/foo.html">something</script> and then using <div ng-include="/foo.html"></div> inside another ng-template, but it didn't work
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[00:10:02] <moogumbo> It throws some sort of $parse:syntax error
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[00:12:24] <robdubya> moogumbo ng-include="'foo.html'"
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[00:13:16] <djam90> robdubya, any idea why adding that line of code breaks it for apple?
[00:13:34] <moogumbo> robdubya: Oh, that is subtle. Thanks... did not think about that.
[00:13:57] <robdubya> FUCK
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[00:14:07] <robdubya> 2-0. bummer.
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[00:14:30] <djam90> I have Belgium in a sweepstake
[00:14:46] <bealtine> the US did really well all the same
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[00:15:47] <djam90> robdubya, I don't see how the scope.clickSeriesFn = function(item) could possibly cause issue
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[00:17:10] <atl-steve> Angular UI - UI Router question
[00:17:21] <atl-steve> Is it possible to share controllers between parallel named views?
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[00:17:59] <atl-steve> In such a way that if data is loaded in one controller, that scope is available in another?
[00:18:02] <xastey> anyway to have angular output the zone info as in Fri Sep 23 2011 20:00:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
[00:18:06] <xastey> output "eastern" ?
[00:18:30] <bealtine> use a service to store data
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[00:18:58] <robdubya> djam90 sorry but you're going to have to wait till this game is over
[00:19:01] <robdubya> can't focus right now
[00:19:18] <Cixis> xastey: you'll need to either write or use an existing date library
[00:19:27] <Cixis> timezone data isn't built into javascript's date handling
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[00:20:02] <atl-steve> @bealtine, How does that handle automatic reloading of the data?
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[00:20:18] <atl-steve> For instance, when a controller is loaded now, I can just say $scope.data = Restangular.stuff()
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[00:20:45] <atl-steve> Now moving Restangular.stuff() into a service doesn't seem like it could probably synchronize and load the data appropriately
[00:20:48] <bealtine> i guess so...the q is kind of vague
[00:21:07] <bealtine> anyway watching match
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[00:21:35] <robdubya> yeah stfu for 11 minutes
[00:22:00] <atl-steve> o.O
[00:22:02] <xastey> Cixis just defaulted it to local timezone for now i'll use something like moment later
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[00:23:25] <azureknight> robdubya can I pester ya with a question?
[00:23:39] <xastey> umm the "a" format doesn't return am/pm marker as lower case with latest beta
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[00:24:04] <azureknight> xastey maybe they swapped it for "A"?
[00:24:23] <robdubya> azureknight 10 mins
[00:24:29] <xastey> azureknight nop
[00:24:36] <azureknight> robdubya sweet.
[00:24:37] <xastey> doing MMMM dd hh:mm a
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[00:26:01] <lotus> Hey, I'm making a directive which is supposed to validate item data. I have <div>[[item]]<div myDirective>stuff</div></div>
[00:26:20] <lotus> in myDirective, $scope.item is null, but [[item]] dumps content to the screen.
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[00:26:34] <lotus> I'm guessing it's a render-time issue... thanks for the help! I love having people to talk to.
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[00:28:24] <Cixis> is the point at which you're debugging running before $scope.item is assigned to?
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[00:28:41] <ngbot> [angular.js] matsko pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/hPXGzQ
[00:28:41] <ngbot> angular.js/master e18db78 Ayrat Aminev: fix($animate): remove the ng-animate className after canceling animation...
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[00:29:37] <lotus> Cixis: yes. also, $scope.watch('item', function() {console.log('asdf');}); never seems to trigger
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[00:32:27] <djam90> ok robdubya, sorry for bothering ya in the game! one thing of note... this issue didn't start until I added the following: scope.clickSeriesFn(scope.activeItem); into the scope.setActive function line 659
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[00:34:56] <robdubya> damn, i need a drink
[00:34:59] <robdubya> that was intense
[00:35:21] <snurfery> I was walking around the block and hear roars of indignation
[00:35:21] <djam90> haha
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[00:35:40] <snurfery> got back into the office and it was not overly-joyous
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[00:36:03] <robdubya> they lost, but fuck me, they fought for it. i'm good with that.
[00:36:22] <bealtine> a good perf from the US
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[00:36:38] <bealtine> can hold their heads high
[00:36:58] <robdubya> word. proud to be a merkin
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[00:38:13] <azureknight> robdubya haha. The game?
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[00:38:31] <djam90> I can't see anything that would cause the carousel to not release resources on apple
[00:38:34] <robdubya> yeah. woosh
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[00:39:04] <bealtine> https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10397104_10153038536269152_6215007483429380777_o.jpg
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[00:39:10] <bealtine> chicago earlier
[00:39:18] <robdubya> crazy
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[00:39:38] <snurfery> jesus
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[00:40:15] <azureknight> Speaking of Chicago, I just beat Watch_Dogs
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[00:40:37] <robdubya> fuck you alexi lalas. you were shit.
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[00:40:49] <djam90> think I give up with this carousel
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[00:41:36] <ngbot> [angular.js] matsko pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/RRRO-w
[00:41:37] <ngbot> angular.js/master d2963ad Ahmed Nuaman: docs(guide): fixes to ngShow/ngHide animations
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[00:45:42] <djam90> robdubya, gotta go soon, any ideas why it might be borked for apple?
[00:45:48] <Grokling> robdubya: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/merkin?q=merkin But you knew that right??
[00:46:00] <robdubya> not really, i'll have a look djam90 when i stop shaking
[00:46:08] <robdubya> Grokling that's the joke (tm)
[00:46:21] <lotus> lol~
[00:46:34] <lotus> $scope.watch() -- very weird behavior
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[00:46:53] <Grokling> I figured/hoped..
[00:46:54] <lotus> $scope.$watch() -- magically works.
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[00:47:05] <lotus> So much love.
[00:47:22] <Cixis> lotus: that should answer your question then
[00:47:26] <snurfery> Grokling: wat
[00:47:31] <snurfery> mind = blown
[00:47:33] <snurfery> hahaha
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[00:48:00] <Cixis> if it's null when you're debugging and you're not expecting it to, then you need to make that code run after whatever assigns it
[00:48:24] <lotus> Cixis: absolutely. Now my watch is firing when the object gets loaded and I'm set.
[00:48:30] <Cixis> werd
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[00:48:55] <Grokling> snurfery, I think it's what you could call cultural self-deprecation!
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[00:49:19] <snurfery> make it sound all fancy-like
[00:49:19] <azureknight> Any good advice on how to grasp a better understanding of angular?
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[00:49:28] <snurfery> azureknight: http://www.ng-newsletter.com/posts/how-to-learn-angular.html
[00:49:36] <bealtine> just write stuff
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[00:49:44] <azureknight> snurfery that was just on hand? XD
[00:49:50] <bealtine> make mistakes and fix em
[00:50:01] <snurfery> I just finished reading it b/c I wanted to share it with some noob co-workers =)
[00:50:01] <azureknight> bealtine that's like my philosophy of life.
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[00:50:06] <djam90> robdubya, if you do have a look, I think it is something to do with calling scope.clickSeriesFn(scope.activeItem); on line 659, which makes the filters load below and then makes the results load after that
[00:50:10] <snurfery> someone suggested it earlier ;)
[00:50:11] <azureknight> Like me! :D
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[00:50:31] <djam90> robdubya, either that, or the way the carousel loads in the scope.whenDone function on line 694
[00:51:00] <robdubya> djam90 noted
[00:51:20] <djam90> in fact it probably is the line 694 but have no idea why
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[00:53:14] <ngbot> [angular.js] rodyhaddad pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/C7Wxrg
[00:53:14] <ngbot> angular.js/master 85b7731 Shahar Talmi: feat(FormController): add `$rollbackViewValue` to rollback all controls...
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[00:55:47] <djam90> robdubya if you do find the answer if you still write it on here I will check the log tomorrow, really appreciate the help, off to bed now, night!
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[00:55:56] <ngbot> [angular.js] rodyhaddad pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Oy_-fg
[00:55:56] <ngbot> angular.js/master b0ca519 Jason Bedard: perf($compile): no longer need nodeType filter when setting $scope data...
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[01:06:37] <djam90> robdubya, do you think the issue could be because of how the carousel is loaded via scope.whenDone() ?
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[01:07:04] <BlinkyBill> I'm getting an ngRepeat:dupes error, on an array which I'm populating with arr.push({...}). As each array element is a new object, how is it considering it duplicate?
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[01:07:58] <BlinkyBill> just trying to understand, as in my understanding each object declared like that will have it's own ref.
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[01:09:01] <postitnote> How do you guys animate ng-view transitions; like with opacity? I eventually need an absolutely positioned element inside of a relatively positioned element. Any straight CSS way to do angular animate transitions?
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[01:17:39] <postitnote> Oh no.
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[01:19:20] <postitnote> https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngRoute/directive/ngView conveniently, the .view-animate has bottom:0; Ack. But what about variable height?
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[01:19:55] <postitnote> I can make sexy transitions impractically for the case of academic study and convention presentation on google campus, too :)
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[01:27:04] <djam90> robdubya, please say you're here?
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[01:27:26] <djam90> I've put a stripped back version on plunker
[01:27:52] <djam90> and it stops working after a few seconds
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[01:27:59] <djam90> wonder if it is the memory leak or something
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[01:28:07] <djam90> robdubya, --------> http://plnkr.co/edit/gp7DjMphjFzkUYPJH64l?p=preview
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[01:31:01] <djam90> I think it needs to be removed from the $timeout to fix it, but of course need an iPad to test
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[01:32:16] <postitnote> Anyway…js is still required to animate effectively between views. I just need a way to globally observe $viewContentLoaded
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[01:32:53] <ngbot> [angular.js] matsko pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/eVujZA
[01:32:53] <ngbot> angular.js/master f07af61 Matias Niemelä: fix($animate): ensure that parallel class-based animations are all eventually closed...
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[01:32:56] <djam90> pls pls pls anyone here with an iPad????
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[01:34:06] <lotus> djam90: browserstack.com ?
[01:34:11] <lotus> djam90: or would it have to be real
[01:34:15] <lotus> I could also emulate xcode
[01:34:16] <djam90> unreliable for this exercise
[01:34:18] <djam90> needs to be real
[01:34:20] <lotus> emulate in xcode*
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[01:37:00] <dman777> Is this syntax/logic wrong if the object doesn't exist? http://bpaste.net/show/NTCdwXvMsjQd7p0SHnZT/
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[01:37:42] <dman777> I mean the OR logic
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[01:38:12] <postitnote> So basically to cross-fade you need js to measure the absolutely positioned content and adjust the container accordingly. I believe the solution is $viewContentLoaded.
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[01:38:40] <postitnote> Cross-fading ng-view contents between changes is super sweet looking. Even really short…so pleasant.
[01:39:00] <postitnote> Sadly, this cannot be 100% css.
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[01:40:46] <djam90> I think it was Stephen that put my code inside $timeout and I kept it like that, and I think removing it from $timeout fixed it
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[01:42:48] <Matt______> Hi everybody
[01:43:03] <Matt______> I have a question about how to implement a Provider in TypeScript
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[01:43:39] <Matt______> I have Services, Controllers, Filters, Factories all working but I am stuck with how to get it to work properly
[01:43:50] <Matt______> Has anyone done this with Angular and TypeScript?
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[01:44:54] <Matt______> Anybody?
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[01:46:55] <Matt______> Anyone with TypeScript and AngularJS experience?
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[01:48:02] <elnur> How do you folks write e2e tests for stuff that's done with sockets?
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[01:49:27] <dman777> elnur: human beings doing real tests before this e2e trend started
[01:50:01] <elnur> dman777, so, do you automate humans then?
[01:50:16] <Matt______> TypeScript AngularJS and custom Providers.....has anyone done this?
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[01:52:06] <elnur> Matt______, how did you managet to make TS work with Angular? Do you have d.ts files for everything from Angular?
[01:52:21] <elnur> I tried TS yesterday but failed.
[01:52:29] <Cixis> Matt______: yes
[01:52:38] <elnur> Cixis, o/
[01:52:49] <Cixis> i export my provider functions
[01:52:57] <elnur> Cixis, so, how do you teach TS about angular?
[01:53:04] <Cixis> oh right
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[01:53:08] <Cixis> i use the angular d.ts
[01:53:08] <Matt______> Yes, I have everything working for Angular in TypeScript
[01:53:14] <Cixis> and reference it
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[01:53:24] <Matt______> I am trying to write a custom Provider but I am running into issues.....
[01:53:31] <elnur> Cixis, something like `/// foobar`?
[01:54:03] <Matt______> Yes, I have a References.ts file that handles all of the type definition files.....
[01:54:17] <Cixis> elnur: /// <reference path="angular.d.ts"/>
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[01:55:06] <elnur> I see. So, do you write that reference files yourselves?
[01:55:12] <Cixis> http://pastebin.com/tDzf8qL9
[01:55:18] <Cixis> no
[01:55:24] <Cixis> i get them from definitelytyped.org
[01:55:36] <Cixis> you can use the `tsd` tool to install them too. really handy
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[01:55:58] <elnur> O nice!
[01:55:59] <elnur> Thanks.
[01:56:03] <Matt______> Yes....here is an example of what I used: http://plnkr.co/edit/GhJtio0yBldMseJizqJn?p=preview
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[01:56:32] <Matt______> So has anyone tried writing a custom Provider in TS?
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[01:56:56] <Matt______> Cixis, can you paste an example?
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[01:57:53] <Matt______> I have been using a registerService, registerController, etc. paradigm but I am stuck with the Providers
[01:58:04] <Cixis> ah
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[01:58:14] <Cixis> well, services and factories are providers
[01:58:17] <Matt______> I need to convert my DataService to a DataProvider as I want to use it in my UI Router config section....
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[01:58:23] <Cixis> so i can paste an example of a service
[01:58:31] <Cixis> i don't have any explicit providers
[01:58:37] <Matt______> Yes, but you can only use Provider in the .config part of Angular.....
[01:59:00] <Matt______> Thanks, just a point in the right direction would be helpful....
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[02:00:25] <Cixis> http://pastebin.com/j4n3msX8
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[02:00:46] <Cixis> but it sounds like you have services figured out already
[02:01:03] <Cixis> i can't imagine providers would be much different
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[02:01:52] <crocket> I want to test a web application that has angular pages and non-angular pages.
[02:01:52] <Matt______> Cixis, how is that registered in Angular as a Provider. I have custom code in my individual Services, Filters, Controllers, etc. that registers each with Angular.....
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[02:02:13] <crocket> Is it better to use protractor as a library than to let protractor drive tests?
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[02:03:05] <Cixis> Matt______: i register my depdencies in my main app.ts. each "module" i'm exporting doesn't know anything about the app as a whole
[02:03:14] <Cixis> so in app.ts, i have a reference to that file
[02:03:35] <Matt______> Do you mind sharing that as well....Perhaps I am doing it the hard way.....
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[02:03:36] <Cixis> them i do something like angular.module('app').service('SuperCoolService', My.Namespace.DeviceService)
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[02:03:54] <crocket> Does anyone use protractor?
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[02:04:29] <Cixis> sorry, i don't have permission to share the code i have available, but that's the general pattern i've been following
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[02:05:16] <Matt______> Can you show me the blurb you use for Providers? I believe the syntax would be slightly different.....
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[02:05:52] <Cixis> like i said, i don't have any explicitly defined providers, just services and factories
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[02:06:09] <crocket> any fucking one?
[02:06:13] <Matt______> Ahh....thanks for you help...
[02:06:20] <Cixis> but that would probably be something like .provider('myProvider', My.Namespace.MyProvider)
[02:06:25] <Cixis> crocket: cool your jet
[02:06:28] <Cixis> s
[02:06:29] <Matt______> I will try what you showed....
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[02:06:53] <Cixis> cool. report back
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[02:07:51] <Matt______> Will do. Thanks....
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[02:10:43] <tsyd> I'm creating a packaged Chrome app and when I have an expression that accesses nested properties (e.g. {{foo.bar.baz}}) I get CSP exceptions: Refused to evaluate a string as JavaScript because 'unsafe-eval' is not an allowed source of script in the following Content Security Policy directive: "default-src 'self' chrome-extension-resource:".
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[02:11:21] <tsyd> {{foo.bar}} works fine though...
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[02:16:29] <tsyd> Having said that, {{foo.bar['baz']}} doesn't cause CSP exceptions... WTF?
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[02:18:06] <crocket> Is there anyone who uses protractor?
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[02:27:54] <Ttttt> Yoyoy
[02:27:58] <Ttttt> Oooo
[02:29:13] <lotus> ttttoooyoto
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[02:44:43] <robdubya> tsyd do you have the ng-csp stuff plugged in?
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[02:48:16] <postitnote> Yeah this is a total drag. I thought I had a fix setting the inner box position to absolute during ng-leave/enter but something weird is going on. So basically ng-animate cross-fade between anything but absolutely positioned boxes is impossible with css alone.
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[02:48:26] <Guest99586> hola
[02:49:34] <postitnote> The only other practically usable transition between main views is wiping but that only works when direction is maintained. Right is forward, left is backward, period.
[02:49:41] <Guest99586> whats
[02:49:44] <Guest99586> spain
[02:49:56] <postitnote> I need to give a talk at an angular conference. Where do I sign up to explain how the real world works?
[02:50:04] <Guest99586> gelou
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[02:50:10] <postitnote> js programmer does not a ux designer make.
[02:50:21] <Guest99586> ahhh
[02:50:28] <Guest99586> spain
[02:50:35] <Guest99586> please
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[02:50:51] <robdubya> postitnote you doing this with views?
[02:50:55] <robdubya> eg ui-router vies?
[02:51:01] <Guest99586> spain
[02:51:08] <Guest99586> i am
[02:51:16] <Guest99586> notingles
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[02:51:23] <postitnote> I have tried it with both ui-router views and ng-view.
[02:51:23] <Guest99586> not ingles
[02:51:39] <Guest99586> no entiendo una coño hermana
[02:51:51] <postitnote> Basically, there needs to be js intervention on all animation in order to resize the inner content.
[02:52:05] <Guest99586> =-Ojajajjajajaajaj
[02:52:11] <Guest99586> good bye
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[02:52:25] <tsyd> robdubya: Ah, I did not, but ng-csp did the trick. Thanks!
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[02:53:50] <Guest99586> olaa
[02:53:52] <Guest99586> hola
[02:53:53] <Guest99586> hola
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[02:54:22] <robdubya> tsyd there's a CSS file too fyi, since there's some changes to how ng-show etc work
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[02:55:02] <postitnote> Literally every example I can find of ng-animate involves some type of absolute positioning. This sells well, sure, because it's pure css. But it's virtually unusable in the real world. I'm guessing big changes are in store for 1.3's animation.
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[02:56:37] <robdubya> i saw a note in the changelog about that
[02:56:40] <robdubya> a few actually
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[02:57:45] <jpstone-> who needs design when you have bootstrap :D
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[02:58:28] <robdubya> + themestrap
[02:58:32] <postitnote> I use bootstrap exclusively now. It doesn't fix the ng-view transition problem.
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[02:58:37] <jpstone-> I s'pose the day will come when the "bootstrap look" will become played out
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[02:59:01] <postitnote> jpstone-: Though look at how much bootstrap itself has changed since release.
[02:59:21] <postitnote> I was stealing UI elements from twitter for a long time before they organized it all for me :)
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[02:59:31] <jpstone-> :D
[02:59:39] <robdubya> err not themestrap
[02:59:43] <robdubya> bootswatch
[02:59:43] <robdubya> http://bootswatch.com/
[02:59:45] <jpstone-> Man, the Nats are kicking ass :)
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[03:00:25] <postitnote> bootswatch is something I wish there were more contributors for. I wish there was a dribbble for bootstrap themes.
[03:00:55] <postitnote> I've modified some bootswatch themes…but each of them has their own annoying problem.
[03:01:01] <jpstone-> bootstrap and angular are so nicely integrated...especially if you're using yo angular
[03:01:06] <robdubya> i set up a little directive so my end users can switch them out on the fly. its slick. and they like it
[03:01:23] <jpstone-> robdubya: was unaware of that website...thanks
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[03:01:49] <robdubya> werd. they're nice, no extra classes, so its a 1-1 swap
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[03:02:04] <robdubya> and generally quite tasteful
[03:02:10] <postitnote> ngAnimate is awesome, I just wish I could figure out a nice transition method. Even fade-in-out.
[03:02:33] <postitnote> cross-fade, etc. Or wipe right forward and left backward.
[03:02:35] <jpstone-> that's awesome cuz, it's nice to have a "change-up" to the bootstrap standard look/feel
[03:02:46] <robdubya> postitnote http://plnkr.co/edit/LZTqdd?p=preview
[03:02:54] <robdubya> that's mine, but again, absolute positioning
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[03:04:47] <postitnote> robdubya: That's nice. I had a good one going until I realized absolute wouldn't work. Now I'm sort of painted into a corner because I need to do my layout over or somehow tie javascript into this to adjust the container height.
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[03:05:28] <robdubya> you could probably trigger the resize in one of the state events
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[03:13:51] <ner0x> Is there an easy way to make ng-if not move all my variables in an isolated scope?
[03:14:02] <robdubya> move?
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[03:17:36] <jpstone-> Have you ever had the feeling that your solo project is getting away from you...
[03:17:39] <jpstone-> lol
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[03:19:43] <zumba_addict> robdubya: you there?
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[03:20:43] <robdubya> ya
[03:20:48] <zumba_addict> hey :)
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[03:21:11] <zumba_addict> need some quick help. Which part of the code requires annotation? I noticed i'm getting an error on this code - https://gist.github.com/c0debreaker/f21d296e332a4e78c927
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[03:21:30] <motionman> morning folks
[03:21:41] <zumba_addict> I commented out this code and the error went away
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[03:21:58] <zumba_addict> locally, it runs fine until i deploy it with grunt
[03:22:14] * motionman never used restangular
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[03:22:18] <robdubya> where the hell is it morning?
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[03:22:38] <robdubya> zumba_addict what's that code in? a service?
[03:22:48] <zumba_addict> which one?
[03:22:52] <robdubya> the one you just linked
[03:22:56] <robdubya> its just a fat block of code
[03:22:59] <zumba_addict> oh controller
[03:23:06] <zumba_addict> it's well annotated
[03:23:12] <robdubya> probably nothing then
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[03:23:17] <robdubya> at least not in that block
[03:23:30] <zumba_addict> but why am i getting an error on that code?
[03:23:38] <zumba_addict> the error i showed to you this afternoon
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[03:24:50] <zumba_addict> however, will the remote server being inaccessible cause that issue?
[03:24:55] <motionman> robdubya, it's morning here at my place
[03:25:38] <robdubya> zumba_addict its been several hours, lots of questions, and one nail biting soccer game since then. i have no idea what the error was
[03:25:47] <zumba_addict> oh ok :D
[03:25:50] <robdubya> motionman where's that?
[03:25:56] <zumba_addict> it's the unknown provider a unpr something
[03:26:12] <zumba_addict> caused by minification
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[03:26:25] <robdubya> can you post the error and the whole controller again?
[03:26:30] <zumba_addict> will do
[03:26:37] <motionman> robdubya, east asia XD
[03:26:38] <zumba_addict> i'll have to renable the code and deploy it
[03:26:42] <zumba_addict> give me 5 mins
[03:26:43] <robdubya> might be the modal controller
[03:26:51] <zumba_addict> that's what I was thinking too
[03:26:57] <zumba_addict> i didn't write it
[03:27:20] <zumba_addict> i honestly hate it because it's pops up more than 3 times
[03:27:22] <zumba_addict> it's weird
[03:27:45] <zumba_addict> I'm not sure if my IF statement is wrong
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[03:28:32] <robdubya> zumba_addict now that you've got services for data, i suggest creating some more services for your higher level business logic
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[03:28:47] <zumba_addict> will do
[03:28:48] <robdubya> eg, i have Employees, Projects, TimeLogs models
[03:28:57] <zumba_addict> k
[03:29:03] <robdubya> all of which merge to make a "virtual" TimeSheet model
[03:29:10] <robdubya> so rather than a bucnh of code in every controller
[03:29:26] <robdubya> inject the base models into another service
[03:29:31] <robdubya> TimeSheets.find()
[03:29:32] <robdubya> etc
[03:29:36] <zumba_addict> cool
[03:29:40] <jpstone-> model-driven, babye.
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[03:29:49] <robdubya> awwwwchhyeeahhh
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[03:30:40] <robdubya> my new ORM is getting away from me. but i think its going to end up epic
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[03:33:09] <jpstone-> robdubya: ORM for which DB types?
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[03:35:51] <zumba_addict> I commented out the model robdubya and I still got the error
[03:36:18] <zumba_addict> robdubya: https://gist.github.com/c0debreaker/be4aa814c7710bc1addf
[03:37:03] <robdubya> jpstone- any / all
[03:37:06] <robdubya> client side
[03:37:34] <jpstone-> an ORM to plug-in to Angular?
[03:37:36] <robdubya> zumba_addict http://baamqa.bazarr.com/assets/js/vendor.js:12:30866
[03:37:46] <zumba_addict> ok, I have that file
[03:37:47] <robdubya> jpstone- yeah. angular 2.0 most likely
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[03:37:57] <zumba_addict> look at line 12?
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[03:38:56] <xanadu> is it possible, in a test, to spyOn(_SomeService_) or do you have to mock and object with the same functions as the Service to spyOn ?
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[03:39:10] <xanadu> if you answer this question, you get 3,000 points
[03:39:30] <xanadu> mock an*
[03:39:41] <robdubya> jpstone- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DMacL7iwjSMPP0ytZfugpU4v0PWUK0BT6lhyaVEmlBQ/edit based on that type of concept
[03:40:39] <robdubya> Model / Adapter type behavior
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[03:41:44] <jpstone-> I must admit, using the words "client side" and "ORM" in the same sentence is throwing my brain for a loop
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[03:42:00] <robdubya> jpstone- welcome to my life
[03:42:05] <robdubya> these are the things that keep me up at night
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[03:42:39] <zumba_addict> robdubya: I think this is the culprit. How do I annotate if the format of the code is like this? https://gist.github.com/c0debreaker/49e3f1a1efa38f279205
[03:43:03] <zumba_addict> when I use the regular .controller, it doesn't work
[03:43:25] <robdubya> declare it like any other angular controller
[03:43:25] <zumba_addict> i'll update the gist to put the whole code
[03:43:34] <jpstone-> bookmarking this doc though
[03:43:44] <jpstone-> i have a startup venture that will rely heavily on local storage
[03:43:46] <zumba_addict> that's what I said. If i write it as a regular controller, it wouldn't work
[03:44:04] <robdubya> zumba_addict ... and then when you reference it in the modal setup, use a string
[03:44:06] <zumba_addict> here is the my full code, https://gist.github.com/c0debreaker/49e3f1a1efa38f279205
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[03:44:28] <zumba_addict> how do I refer to it as a string?
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[03:44:34] <zumba_addict> I got a bit lost there
[03:44:48] <robdubya> you're using ui-router, right?
[03:44:52] <zumba_addict> yes
[03:44:56] <robdubya> same way you do there
[03:45:00] <robdubya> controller: 'MyController'
[03:45:01] <zumba_addict> got it
[03:45:15] <zumba_addict> ok, I'll try. Let me convert it first
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[03:47:34] <zumba_addict> ah, from this ErrorModalHandler.open(AuthModalInstanceCtrl, 'servererror.html'); to this ErrorModalHandler.open('AuthModalInstanceCtrl', 'servererror.html');
[03:47:37] <zumba_addict> correct robdubya?
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[03:47:51] <zumba_addict> i enclosed AuthModalInstanceCtrl with quotes
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[03:48:44] <robdubya> that doesn't seem right
[03:49:02] <robdubya> ah wait
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[03:49:11] <robdubya> yeah, i guess if you're passing it through, yeah
[03:49:12] <robdubya> https://gist.github.com/c0debreaker/49e3f1a1efa38f279205#file-authmodalinstancectrl-js-L7
[03:49:17] <zumba_addict> ok
[03:49:25] <robdubya> i dunno, its y'alls code
[03:49:32] <robdubya> i'm just visiting
[03:49:59] <zumba_addict> yup
[03:50:02] <zumba_addict> i'm trying it now
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[03:52:12] <zumba_addict> here is the new version, https://gist.github.com/c0debreaker/3aa00257e4c387f6141a
[03:52:58] <zumba_addict> my internet suddenly slowed down
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[03:53:39] <zumba_addict> I'll have to switch wifi spots, it;s friggin slow
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[03:55:00] <night-owl-MBP> zumba_addict: switch wifi spots?
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[03:55:14] <night-owl-MBP> zumba: switch wifi spots?
[03:55:17] <zumba_ad_> robdubya: woohoo, error is gone!
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[03:55:39] <zumba_ad_> thanks for the help again :)
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[03:56:37] <robdubya> nice
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[03:56:53] <night-owl-MBP> zumba_ad: is the wireless signal in your place being lame?
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[03:57:16] <Scathen^C> hey all
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[03:57:24] <zumba_ad_> night-owl-MBP: just the one in my basement
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[03:57:29] <robdubya> hallo
[03:57:33] <zumba_ad_> i have 3 wifi ap here at home
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[03:58:29] <night-owl-MBP> ahhhh. what OS do you use?
[03:58:33] <absk007> whc buks 2 get 4 learning angular?
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[03:58:48] <night-owl-MBP> ng-buk
[03:58:51] <night-owl-MBP> :p just kidding
[03:58:52] <night-owl-MBP> ng-book
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[03:59:27] <absk007> it's costly
[03:59:30] <robdubya> damn, i need to write a book
[03:59:42] <robdubya> and a blarg
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[04:01:28] <absk007> so which book to use?
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[04:01:57] <robdubya> absk007 i dont think you need a book
[04:02:08] <robdubya> as you said, they're expensive, and there's SO much free stuff out there
[04:02:13] <absk007> robdubya, then? what do i need?
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[04:02:28] <robdubya> https://github.com/jmcunningham/AngularJS-Learning
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[04:02:31] <robdubya> good start
[04:02:49] <robdubya> see also http://www.ng-newsletter.com/posts/how-to-learn-angular.html
[04:02:50] <absk007> that ng-book is way too much expensive & might not be available locally.
[04:02:53] <robdubya> (he wrote ng-book)
[04:02:54] <Scathen^C> hey all, i am trying to get my head around js animations.
[04:03:06] <robdubya> aren't we all Scathen^C
[04:03:09] <robdubya> arent we al
[04:03:26] <Scathen^C> I have successfully created my own directive and animation so that my class custom-animation gets added
[04:03:52] <Scathen^C> the problem is the animation seems to conflict with ng-show or ng-if...
[04:04:07] <Scathen^C> anyone have any tips for this, or am i approaching it wrong?
[04:04:15] <robdubya> depends what you're trying to do
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[04:04:29] <robdubya> do you *really* need JS animations, or could you do it with pure CSS?
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[04:05:02] <Scathen^C> i like the way the js animations are bundled nicely into the directive
[04:05:05] <robdubya> http://plnkr.co/edit/LZTqdd?p=preview
[04:05:17] <robdubya> sexy transitions, no JS bananas.
[04:05:25] <Scathen^C> also ill be implementing some pretty complex ones later and wanted to use tweenmax
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[04:06:27] <robdubya> see also http://hendrixer.github.io/
[04:06:41] <Scathen^C> im not a fan of css as it is, let alone spraying full of verbose animation stuff
[04:06:42] <robdubya> if not to use, to understand the mechanics by reading the sauce
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[04:08:05] <robdubya> Scathen^C otherwise make a plunk, and we'll praise/abuse it
[04:08:17] <postitnote> robdubya: also ui-router still does view transitions weird. Differently than angular's router https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/issues/881
[04:08:18] <night-owl-MBP> robdubya: what is this? an FX directive?
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[04:08:22] <postitnote> If you're curious heh.
[04:08:34] <Scathen^C> my problem isnt really doing the animations. it is combining js animations with things like ng-if
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[04:09:03] <robdubya> well, things like ng-if typically add/remove their own animation classes
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[04:09:11] <robdubya> (that's how it works)
[04:09:19] <night-owl-MBP> whatever happened to using blinking and scrolling text? they had it all figured out in the 90s..
[04:09:25] <robdubya> simpler times
[04:09:39] <robdubya> the heady days of wysiwyg
[04:09:40] <Scathen^C> i get that, but i want to do js animations when that happens….so can i override the addClass functionality for the ng-if stuff?
[04:10:02] <postitnote> robdubya: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/435/45308/
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[04:11:06] <robdubya> heh
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[04:11:58] <robdubya> Scathen^C they should play nicely
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[04:13:10] <robdubya> iirc in the case of ng-if, that's triggering enter/leave, so as long as you define your $animations properly, they should fire
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[04:13:28] <night-owl-MBP> robdubya: I was thinking about it today, with all of this 3d browser stuff going around, someone needs to make a file browser that looks like the Gibson in the movie Hackers
[04:13:31] <Scathen^C> thats what im trying to understand…what is properly?
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[04:13:47] <Scathen^C> so at the moment, ng-if add/removes the enter/leave classes
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[04:14:07] <robdubya> yes
[04:14:13] <crocket> robdubya, Do you use protractor or webdriver?
[04:14:16] <Scathen^C> but instead of wanting to add css for these classes, I want to catch the moment they are added/removed and perform my own custom js anims
[04:14:22] <robdubya> + the associated meta classes (.active etc)
[04:14:43] <robdubya> Scathen^C right - so if you follow the naming conventions in the docs, it should trigger your *js* animations
[04:15:01] <Scathen^C> sorry, not following
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[04:15:21] <robdubya> https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngAnimate
[04:15:28] <Scathen^C> you mean .animation(‘ng-if class names’, function()…my own animations)?
[04:15:30] <robdubya> go to the JS defined animations sextion
[04:15:51] <robdubya> the object being returned from that example has enter/leave/move/etc
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[04:17:06] <Scathen^C> yes, but that related to .my-crazy-animation
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[04:17:23] <robdubya> ?
[04:17:29] <Scathen^C> in the docs
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[04:19:34] <robdubya> the way it works is that you create a custom js animation called my-crazy-thing
[04:20:03] <Scathen^C> yeah i get that. but how do i hook that and ng-if together?
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[04:20:35] <robdubya> look, i can either explain it line by excruciating line, or you could post your code, and we can look at it
[04:21:02] <Scathen^C> well you havent explained anything yet
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[04:22:12] <Scathen^C> i have already read these docs. i get how to create custom animations. all i want to know is how to get my custom animation to run when ng-if does its thing
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[04:23:14] <robdubya> when ng-if fires, assuming you follow the previously mentioned naming conventions, it will trigger it *for* you
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[04:24:25] <robdubya> you use the name of your custom animation
[04:24:37] <robdubya> by adding the *same* name as a class to the element
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[04:24:40] <robdubya> you want to trigger it on
[04:25:04] <Scathen^C> ahh so add .my-crazy-animation for example to the element
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[04:25:41] <Scathen^C> and then ng-if will cause the enter function for example to run in the my-crazy-animation code?
[04:26:02] <robdubya> right
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[04:26:20] <Scathen^C> thanks
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[04:27:17] <robdubya> this is a good overview if you haven't read it
[04:27:17] <robdubya> http://www.yearofmoo.com/2013/08/remastered-animation-in-angularjs-1-2.html
[04:27:26] <Scathen^C> yeah read that earlier
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[04:27:36] <robdubya> keep in mind there were a bunch of changes after 1.2, so stuff you find may be outdated
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[04:28:58] <Scathen^C> yeah, i think i get it all now…cheers
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[04:29:16] <crocket> robdubya, Are you available?
[04:29:39] <robdubya> i'm flattered crocket, but i have a girlfriend
[04:29:45] <crocket> robdubya, Do you use protractor or webdriver?
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[04:29:55] <robdubya> ptor, but poorly
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[04:30:12] <crocket> robdubya, protractor configuration is not flexible.
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[04:30:32] <crocket> I want to be able to choose browsers on command line, but it's not easy with protractor configuration.
[04:30:47] <crocket> I have to duplicate everything with each configuraiton.
[04:31:12] <robdubya> you should just get a bit more clever about your configurations. _.extend / _.defaults is good for this
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[04:31:26] <crocket> robdubya, What is that?
[04:31:48] <crocket> That's only confusing.
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[04:32:30] <robdubya> crocket so protractor takes a config file, right?
[04:32:34] <crocket> yes
[04:32:34] <robdubya> which is returning an object
[04:32:36] <justinobney> robdubya: crocket is about to level up...
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[04:32:57] <robdubya> so if 90% of your configuration is the same
[04:33:08] <robdubya> put all that stuff in one file
[04:33:13] <crocket> robdubya, I want to know how to share the common configuration
[04:33:28] <robdubya> that's what i'm trying to explain
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[04:33:32] <robdubya> if you'll hold your damn horses
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[04:34:03] <crocket> I also thought about driving mocha programmatically and using protractor as a library.
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[04:36:04] <snurfery> yeoman question for yall
[04:36:06] <snurfery> is there anything super tricky about upgrading a yeoman generator?
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[04:36:14] <snurfery> for example, a new version of generator-angular came out that includes some bug fixes, are there some known steps to do this?
[04:36:41] <night-owl-MBP> so you have generator-angular, and you wanna get the latest version?
[04:36:43] <crocket> robdubya, Are you gone?
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[04:36:50] <snurfery> night-owl-MBP: yep
[04:37:02] <night-owl-MBP> snurfery: how are you getting generator-angular? with npm?
[04:37:02] <justinobney> crocket: robdubya, perhaps a plnkr.co to better explain: http://plnkr.co/edit/Gzg8NmRSfUFYBEbrFJXH?p=preview
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[04:37:38] <crocket> angular.extend? I can't use that.
[04:37:44] <justinobney> detached from angular context of course, just to show the _.extend concept
[04:37:46] <snurfery> night-owl-MBP: I believe so, I setup the project a couple of months ago and haven't had to bother with anything yeoman-specific after taht
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[04:38:03] <justinobney> you would require lodash and "configBase"
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[04:38:23] <night-owl-MBP> snurfery: If you used npm install generator-angular to get the yeoman generator, you can just use npm update generator-angular
[04:38:30] <robdubya> crocket https://gist.github.com/robwormald/ec8d264c51746b31113c
[04:38:32] <justinobney> angular has a matching concept built in
[04:38:33] <robdubya> jesus
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[04:38:39] <night-owl-MBP> if you installed it globally, you'd use npm update -g generator-angular
[04:38:44] <snurfery> right
[04:39:01] <snurfery> but I want to upgrade the result of using the generator
[04:39:08] <robdubya> not gonna happen
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[04:39:24] <robdubya> not easily, anyway
[04:39:28] <snurfery> of course I can just set it up again in an empty folder and copy my stuff over
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[04:39:58] <robdubya> haha justinobney exactly what you said
[04:40:02] <robdubya> almost to the word
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[04:40:15] <justinobney> i see
[04:40:22] <night-owl-MBP> snurfery: yeah.
[04:40:24] <justinobney> i got that feeling when you departed momentarily
[04:40:28] <robdubya> though i'm wondering if its going to do it deep. i dont remember w. lodash
[04:40:30] <crocket> robdubya, I guess I can use something better than lodash.
[04:40:38] <robdubya> there is literally nothing better than lodash
[04:40:50] <robdubya> you should thank the gods lodash exists
[04:41:02] <robdubya> i do it every day.
[04:41:06] <robdubya> and i'm an atheist
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[04:41:40] <snurfery> heh
[04:41:51] <robdubya> crocket refresh that, its actually _.extend
[04:42:19] <robdubya> alternately you could do it all in one file and build the config on the fly
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[04:42:23] <robdubya> but i reckon start with that
[04:42:34] <crocket> robdubya, I don't like religious explanations.
[04:42:38] <robdubya> tough shit
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[04:42:45] <night-owl-MBP> snurfery: i think it will just want to overwrite any existing project that was generated by it. if you're just trying to update any packages that the project uses, that's different.
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[04:43:23] <snurfery> it's mostly the content of the generated gruntfile and some of the software it uses
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[04:44:20] <snurfery> generator-angular 0.9.0 came out beginning of june and it has all kinds of hotness
[04:44:21] <snurfery> https://github.com/yeoman/generator-angular/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
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[04:44:34] <justinobney> ha
[04:44:35] <crocket> robdubya, Religions have lost arguments to science on many fronts.
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[04:44:56] <robdubya> crocket you're preaching to the choir
[04:45:00] <snurfery> haha
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[04:46:11] <justinobney> anyone have any better solutions than ui-select2
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[04:46:22] <justinobney> i really only want a portion of the functionality
[04:46:25] <robdubya> whic?
[04:46:46] <justinobney> searching a dropdown to select
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[04:46:53] <justinobney> i really like the look and feel
[04:46:58] <justinobney> no need for tags and such..
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[04:47:08] <justinobney> that's my 95% use case
[04:47:20] <robdubya> why not just a typeahead?
[04:47:34] <robdubya> i guess they're different
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[04:47:56] <justinobney> designers/other developers on team used to select2 in jquery world.. transitioning my team.. but slowly
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[04:48:52] <robdubya> if you're gonna use the native select2 stuff, then i reckon ui-bootstrap is your best bet
[04:48:57] <justinobney> I have finding/building a collection of directives to use instead of their go to jquery plugins
[04:49:06] <robdubya> i've always figured it wouldn't be too hard to do natively, just havent cared enough to try
[04:49:18] <robdubya> you could steal the CSS and start there
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[04:49:55] <justinobney> yea.. it requires jquery and select2(3k LOC) and does not work with ng-options
[04:50:10] <robdubya> ah yeah, thats why i hated it
[04:50:13] <robdubya> no ng-options
[04:50:26] <justinobney> that is probably going to be the plan, just checking for an existing wheel first
[04:50:52] <crocket> robdubya, How do you run selenium server automatically?
[04:51:03] <robdubya> i dont
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[04:51:11] <crocket> robdubya, Do you run it manually?
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[04:51:25] <robdubya> yes.
[04:51:35] <robdubya> are there any other choices?
[04:52:28] <justinobney> crocket: you trying to run on file change(not really ideal for integrations) or on a CI server?
[04:52:36] <crocket> Refer to seleniumServerJar on https://github.com/angular/protractor/blob/master/docs/referenceConf.js
[04:52:47] <crocket> justinobney, on a CI server.
[04:52:52] <crocket> or manually
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[04:52:59] <justinobney> add command to npm test?
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[04:53:32] <crocket> justinobney, That's lame.
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[04:53:39] <justinobney> then run telepathicly
[04:53:44] <crocket> justinobney, gulp is far more flexible.
[04:53:46] <crocket> gulp
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[04:54:17] <justinobney> not arguing that..
[04:54:18] <robdubya> hahaha
[04:54:19] <crocket> If I specify "npm test", I can't pass arguments on the command line.
[04:54:32] <justinobney> umm
[04:54:33] <justinobney> https://github.com/Envoc/envoc.directives/blob/master/package.json#L10
[04:54:45] <robdubya> justinobney i'm totally calling my future task runner telepath.js
[04:54:47] <justinobney> like those arguments
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[04:54:52] <crocket> justinobney, I mean I can't execute "npm test --a=b"
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[04:55:12] <crocket> npm test is not flexible.
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[04:55:44] <robdubya> crocket can i ask a question? where you are you from? i'm trying to figure out if its a language problem, or you're just a party pooper
[04:56:00] <robdubya> because you keep asking for help, people help you, and you call their help stupid / lame
[04:56:09] <robdubya> either way, knock it off
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[04:56:27] <robdubya> ask yourself what jesus would do, if he was a programmer
[04:56:43] <justinobney> nice
[04:56:45] <crocket> robdubya, jesus would delegate everything to non-sentient AIs.
[04:56:59] <justinobney> with gulp right?
[04:57:02] <crocket> So that sentient minds wouldn't suffer.
[04:57:08] <robdubya> haha
[04:57:23] <robdubya> maybe thats what skynet is
[04:57:41] <robdubya> some JS dev gets carried away with a task runner in the future
[04:57:41] <crocket> Wasn't skynet trying to kill humans?
[04:57:45] <quantax-> he would help even the lowest VB programmer
[04:57:52] <robdubya> ends humanity, because its more efficient that way
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[04:58:08] <crocket> robdubya, Who wants that kind of efficiency?
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[04:58:35] <quantax-> amoralistic AI
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[04:59:25] <justinobney> I am now self-conscious of my vocabulary
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[05:00:49] <crocket> robdubya, We can definitely make friendly AIs.
[05:00:57] <robdubya> that's where it starts
[05:01:06] <robdubya> that's where it always starts
[05:01:13] <crocket> robdubya, There will be friendly AIs and unfriendly AIs.
[05:01:20] <crocket> We will make friends with friendly ones.
[05:01:37] <quantax-> 3 laws ?
[05:01:37] <crocket> It's unreasonable to expect every AI to become hostile toward humans.
[05:01:39] <robdubya> before I became a developer, i probably would have agreed with you
[05:01:43] <quantax-> of robotics
[05:01:46] <crocket> quantax-, no
[05:01:51] <quantax-> first you have to put those in
[05:01:52] <crocket> quantax-, That's for non-sentient minds.
[05:01:53] <quantax-> not after
[05:01:58] <quantax-> also, thats a kind of slavery
[05:02:01] <quantax-> which it could resent
[05:02:13] <robdubya> your average JS dev implementing the 3 laws in javascript
[05:02:18] <quantax-> lol
[05:02:20] <robdubya> think about it
[05:02:32] <crocket> quantax-, smart sentient artificial minds should be considered equal to humans.
[05:02:50] <quantax-> well programming a system of morals is somewhat impossible at the moment
[05:03:16] <quantax-> crocket yes but with their own values and perceptions
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[05:03:23] <quantax-> essentially, alien intelligences
[05:03:27] <crocket> quantax-, We can modify their minds.
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[05:03:36] <crocket> quantax-, We can modify their minds until we get something we like.
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[05:03:46] <quantax-> what if they resent that since they are also aware
[05:03:51] <robdubya> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/11/google-driverless-car-morality.html
[05:03:56] <robdubya> read that the other day
[05:03:57] <crocket> quantax-, We modify further.
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[05:04:14] <robdubya> "Your car is speeding along a bridge at fifty miles per hour when errant school bus carrying forty innocent children crosses its path. Should your car swerve, possibly risking the life of its owner (you), in order to save the children, or keep going, putting all forty kids at risk? If the decision must be made in milliseconds, the computer will have to make the call."
[05:04:18] <crocket> quantax-, We should make non-sentient AIs for dirty works.
[05:04:27] <robdubya> there are google engineers who are actually having to write that code today
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[05:04:56] <robdubya> i get stressed out by my dull b2b software
[05:04:57] <quantax-> thats pretty wild
[05:05:01] <crocket> quantax-, sentient AIs are the future of us.
[05:05:07] <robdubya> i cannot even imagine what that's like
[05:05:10] <quantax-> yea but theyre also our greatest danger
[05:05:11] <crocket> We should upload our minds into comptuers by then.
[05:05:26] <crocket> former-human AIs
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[05:05:36] <crocket> ex-human
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[05:05:56] <crocket> quantax-, We're dangerous, too.
[05:06:02] <quantax-> we'll have ai before that singularity type event occurs imo
[05:06:06] <quantax-> sentient ai that is
[05:06:08] <crocket> We killed half a billion last century.
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[05:06:25] <crocket> Humans are no less dangerous.
[05:06:25] <quantax-> yea but then add a new intelligence with its own motivations
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[05:06:40] <quantax-> that we may or may not have full control over long term
[05:06:46] <quantax-> and really, leaning towards not
[05:06:50] <crocket> quantax-, We can't have full control over AIs.
[05:06:58] <quantax-> precisely cause that impairs them
[05:07:02] <quantax-> or retards them
[05:07:15] <crocket> quantax-, Rather, smart AIs will manage our infrastructures in the future.
[05:07:26] <crocket> They'll obviate governments.
[05:07:40] <crocket> They are our greatest hope for anarchism.
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[05:08:17] <quantax-> what if theyre grown by large corporations, much like in neuromancer
[05:08:24] <quantax-> serving those interests
[05:08:43] <crocket> quantax-, Then, we'll have to make a new anarchist human-AI civilization in the universe.
[05:08:45] <quantax-> which is the most likely course initially
[05:08:56] <crocket> quantax-, AIs can drive spaceships.
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[05:09:17] <crocket> Being able to run away from governments is the first step of anarchism.
[05:09:34] <quantax-> that is definitely a possibility
[05:09:46] <robdubya> i share your general optimism about technology, but i'm not sure i share the hope for a roboto-anarchist society
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[05:10:29] <crocket> quantax-, Think of a civilization composed of orbital rings and spaceships that treat humans and AIs as equal and can run away in a matter of hours.
[05:10:37] <quantax-> im optimistic about tech but with that type of AI, those are dangerous waters with major implications
[05:11:05] <crocket> quantax-, We should only accept AIs that have benevolent wills toward all sentient creatures.
[05:11:25] <crocket> sentient creatures include humans, animals, and AIs.
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[05:11:45] <crocket> We're animals, though.
[05:11:48] <quantax-> but if they end up with their own society or ecology so to speak, inevitably you have good and bad actors
[05:11:54] <robdubya> crocket your vision of anarchist societies doesn't work with "we should only accept"
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[05:11:56] <quantax-> some would be benign, others less so
[05:12:06] <quantax-> much like humans
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[05:12:17] <crocket> robdubya, unfriendly AIs have to depart from friendly AIs, anyway.
[05:12:23] <crocket> And, we stick to friendly AIs.
[05:12:27] <quantax-> but we dont even have that in our society
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[05:12:54] <crocket> robdubya, Even anarchist societies have implicit rules.
[05:13:01] <crocket> They just don't have governments.
[05:13:12] <crocket> Rule 1. Don't kill
[05:13:14] <crocket> Rule 2. etc...
[05:13:17] <robdubya> that's a wonderful fantasy
[05:13:22] <mogaj> can we do jquery-steps http://www.jquery-steps.com/ like wizard thing in angularjs?
[05:13:31] <crocket> robdubya, It's only a scenario at this moment.
[05:13:43] <robdubya> mogaj sure
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[05:13:59] <robdubya> lots of ways, really just depends how complex you want to get
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[05:14:10] <robdubya> https://github.com/mgonto/angular-wizard
[05:14:17] <robdubya> http://scotch.io/tutorials/javascript/angularjs-multi-step-form-using-ui-router
[05:14:18] <mogaj> robdubya, can you point me to any resources regarding this
[05:14:21] <mogaj> ok thanku
[05:14:39] <crocket> robdubya, Without extensive automation enabled by AIs, anarchism is a pipe dream.
[05:14:46] <quantax-> crocket unfortunately i feel like thats an unattainable ideal, whether for humans or AIs, interests vary and often conflict
[05:15:08] <crocket> quantax-, interests don't conflict much if AIs are vastly more productive than humans.
[05:15:10] <quantax-> legitmately and not
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[05:15:27] <crocket> quantax-, interests conflict with each other when there are scarcities.
[05:15:34] <robdubya> crocket humans have been killing each other since the beginning of humanity
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[05:15:48] <crocket> robdubya, Because humans are cruel under scarcities.
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[05:16:04] <robdubya> that's one explanation
[05:16:29] <crocket> If we can compose a society that obviates private properties, there'll be very little motive to kill.
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[05:16:37] <quantax-> thats one major aspect of conflicts but im not sure about all
[05:16:47] <crocket> Only extensive automation can obviate private property.
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[05:17:05] <crocket> We should transition to private possession.
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[05:18:38] <crocket> robdubya, AIs can act to stop psychopaths from ruling others.
[05:18:54] <crocket> Gang leaders are one such example of psychopths.
[05:19:00] <robdubya> that's a little too thoughtcrime for me
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[05:19:36] <crocket> In an anarchist society, hitler can't rise to power because AIs stop him from obtaining manipulative kinds of power.
[05:19:55] <crocket> Such psychopaths will only be able to satiate their desire in virtual realities.
[05:20:19] <quantax-> you end up in some pretty difficult ethical conundrums under that scenerio
[05:21:01] <crocket> We can't depend on humans to stop other humans from rising to manipulative power.
[05:21:33] <quantax-> for one, how is that process transparent to humans? it would essentially being a god making proclamations to subjects
[05:21:45] <quantax-> be*
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[05:22:01] <crocket> quantax-, However, if you want to play psychopathy, you can leave the anarchist society.
[05:22:14] <crocket> quantax-, You can leave any time.
[05:22:21] <crocket> Join earth whenever you want.
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[05:22:51] <quantax-> hah, fair proposition
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[05:23:04] <crocket> Anarchist societies do not possess imperialism and do not try to make other societies similar to themselves.
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[05:34:21] <snurfery> any of you guys registered on setapp.me? it's a network of devs and a listing of the various tools they/we use
[05:34:40] <snurfery> it's pretty cool to browse, I didn't know about all these nifty little tools people are using
[05:34:58] <snurfery> I saw it recommended by one of the yeoman core dev guys
[05:34:58] <crocket> robdubya, Is https://gist.github.com/crocket/125084d59d53b0706a6f legit?
[05:35:19] <snurfery> robdubya: finally got around to watching that youtube vid of frontend workflow
[05:35:30] <robdubya> good stuff, no?
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[05:37:34] <crocket> robdubya, Wouldn't _.extend(sharedConfig,chromeConfig) modify sharedConfig module?
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[05:41:02] <robdubya> only for the duration of the test
[05:41:22] <robdubya> you're overwriting the sharedConfig stuff with the specifics
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[05:41:25] <snurfery> robdubya: yeah, I need to watch more of those... I just realized I don't really know how most other devs work
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[05:41:37] <snurfery> esp since I'm not a frontend guy by nature
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[05:42:19] <robdubya> nor i
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[05:42:43] <crocket> robdubya, That's going to lead to errors.
[05:42:44] <robdubya> i'm just like "put in a folder and add a script tag. what's the big deal"
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[05:43:26] <crocket> robdubya, _.extend({}, shared, chrome) would be better.
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[05:44:32] <robdubya> whatever works. it doens't make any difference
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[05:45:22] <crocket> separation of concern.
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[05:46:26] <robdubya> okay
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[05:49:27] <sooth> Does anyone know why localStorageService.clearAll() is not actually clearing any of my resources? Anyone show me an example of what you can pass in as an argument to it?
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[06:01:03] <arussel> any lurn user around ? I'm wondering how to set a field as 'token' so it shouldn't be stemmed (ie: product id, city name ...)
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[06:26:52] <morenoh149> anyone using ngcordova?
[06:27:06] <morenoh149> http://ngcordova.com/docs/ not sure where to add the 'ngcordova' bit
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[06:27:18] <morenoh149> is that in leiu of 'ionic' ?
[06:27:29] <morenoh149> or as it's sibling?
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[06:51:28] <robdubya> morenoh149 sibling
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[07:03:02] <night-owl-MBP> robdubya: im trying to take the array of tracks/playlists that my stream service builds and list them with ng-repeat, but need the track items to use a trackTemplate, while playlist items need to load a playlistTemplate. i was told to use ng-switch, but the only ng-switch examples i can find look like they'd force all of the items to be one template or the other..
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[07:03:19] <night-owl-MBP> here's the plunkr http://plnkr.co/edit/ZVRbl0qQ10nHcQ6OZFJO?p=preview
[07:03:46] <night-owl-MBP> This is what I'm trying to get the mixed list of tracks/playlists to look like: http://puu.sh/9Tbhs/0c468c6afb.png
[07:05:11] <night-owl-MBP> im not sure if I need to create a directive that determines which template to load, or if i should use two different directives
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[07:05:55] <night-owl-MBP> or if anyone could take a look at it and help
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[07:06:53] <robdubya> night-owl-MBP you want to define a directive
[07:07:03] <robdubya> that internally flips the template
[07:07:23] <robdubya> http://onehungrymind.com/angularjs-dynamic-templates/
[07:07:25] <Cixis> hm
[07:07:39] <Cixis> i did this recently with ng-include and a directive that essentially wrapped it
[07:07:59] <Cixis> so my element was <div start-template="..." end-template="...">
[07:08:11] <Cixis> and my directive's template was <div ng-include=template>
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[07:08:34] <Cixis> and i set $scope.template to whatever it needed to be
[07:10:10] <robdubya> thing about ng-switch is that's an unnecessary watch
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[07:10:36] <robdubya> in theory shouldbe more performant just doing it once (or not at all)
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[07:11:12] <kroogs> my eye!
[07:11:33] <monokrome> O_O
[07:12:19] * MistahKurtz was talking about 'power faps' in lieu of 'power naps' in another channel, then tab over here to read kroogs exclaim, 'my eye!'
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[07:12:27] <night-owl-MBP> robdubya: thanks man. this was exactly what i was looking for.
[07:12:27] <MistahKurtz> lol
[07:14:31] <robdubya> np
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[07:16:04] <night-owl-MBP> how to not suck anymore :p
[07:16:21] <night-owl-MBP> how to english
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[07:29:01] <LuxuryMode> If i want to embed a youtube video, should I use an <iframe> or an <embed>?
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[07:31:01] <Cixis> ignore that
[07:31:38] <night-owl-MBP> you're not the boss of me
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[07:35:10] <LuxuryMode> Cixis that wasn't directed at me, was it?
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[07:35:41] <Cixis> i mean, you don't have to ignore my nick change if you don't want to
[07:36:06] <night-owl-MBP> Cixis: this isn't gonna look good at your yearly review, I can tell you that much.
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[07:36:19] <Cixis> LuxuryMode: re, your question, don't do either. use the javascript api and let it handle the injection for you. doing it any other way just leads to pain
[07:36:33] <Cixis> what the shit
[07:36:39] <Cixis> i have a review next week :|
[07:36:54] <LuxuryMode> Thanks Cixis what kind of pain?
[07:37:12] <Cixis> you know what it's like to sit on a pineapple?
[07:37:17] <night-owl-MBP> You don't think I know that? I'm your supervisor, after all.
[07:37:28] <night-owl-MBP> In all seriousness, I hope it goes well
[07:37:59] <mogaj> I am getting property of undefined error on form submit using angularjs the code snippets can be seen here http://pastebin.com/0yk1gcjS pls halp me out in correcting this, thankyou
[07:39:07] <LuxuryMode> Cixis lol
[07:39:30] <LuxuryMode> basically the javascript api will figure out browser capabilities, etc?
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[07:40:45] <Cixis> night-owl-MBP: me too. boss has been pushing for a promotion, just gotta meet with the president next week
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[07:40:57] <Cixis> but hell of a coincidence. you had me wondering for a second
[07:41:14] <Cixis> LuxuryMode: yea
[07:41:18] <night-owl-MBP> lol. just watch who you show your herpes to
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[07:41:37] <Cixis> it'll add an iframe and expose events and other things to you
[07:42:02] <LuxuryMode> cool, thanks Cixis
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[07:42:12] <Cixis> i'll have my laser handy and guide them just past their faces
[07:42:56] <sacho> mogaj, did you write anything in the inputs before pressing submit?
[07:43:26] <mogaj> sacho, yes i did
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[07:45:37] <mogaj> sacho, even if i dont enter anything it shud consider the value as empty/null right but the error is 'cannot read property of undefined'
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[07:46:06] <sacho> uh
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[07:46:26] <sacho> do you realise what the error means?
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[07:46:33] <sacho> it means that lead is undefind
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[07:47:16] <Cixis> mogaj: either add lead to scope, or create a ng-model further up the hierarchy called lead
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[07:47:29] <Cixis> you're trying to create a model on an object that doesn't exist
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[07:48:24] <mogaj> Cixis, sorry for asking basic question how do i add lead to scope?
[07:48:24] <sacho> that's not a problem
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[07:48:38] <Cixis> sure it is
[07:48:47] <Cixis> the error is from trying to access lead, which isn't set
[07:48:56] <Cixis> but he's trying to add data to the object that doesn't exist
[07:49:30] <sacho> yes, angular will create the object automatically
[07:49:38] <Cixis> aapparently not
[07:49:53] <sacho> or the error is elsewhere and you're wrong
[07:49:53] <LuxuryMode> Cixis so to use this i can just add the swfobject.js?
[07:50:34] <Cixis> LuxuryMode: no, use the youtube javascript api
[07:51:21] <LuxuryMode> Cixis im confused. the js api docs start out saying "The end user must have Flash Player 10.1 or higher installed to view everything correctly. Because of this requirement, we suggest using SWFObject to embed the SWF and detect the user's Flash Player version."
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[07:52:23] <Cixis> you can use sqfobject to detect if flash is installed and gracefully degrade if they don't
[07:52:42] <Cixis> i suppose if you just try to create a player object, the youtube api won't check it for you
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[07:53:08] <mogaj> Cixis, added ng-model="lead" to <div> above the form ... this did not solve the problem the error is the same
[07:53:27] <LuxuryMode> gotcha
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[07:54:02] <KamalKaur> What does this line mean: <html lang="en" ng-app="phonecatApp">
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[07:54:48] <KamalKaur> The phonecatApp thing here refers to what?
[07:54:50] <sacho> see the ng-app documentation
[07:55:37] <KamalKaur> sacho, Can you please point me to a link?
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[07:55:53] <sacho> googling ng-app angular gives you the reuslt on the first hit :/
[07:55:55] <sacho> https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngApp
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[07:59:17] <KamalKaur> sacho, Yes, I searched and had visited the same page. But the thing is there are functions defined. I mean.. I'm not getting what all I need to prepare for starting a new app?
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[08:00:55] <sacho_> KamalKaur, ng-app is all you need to bootstrap an app
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[08:03:06] <KamalKaur> sacho_, Can you please tell in simple words what does it do?
[08:03:19] <mogaj> Cixis, any suggestions ^
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[08:06:46] <massi_syed> hi, could any body tell me how to copy the values of objects of one list into another, one by one based on a condition
[08:06:51] <Stiles> Hey guys I have a bunch of angular.module('app.submodule') and at the top of my app ng-app="app" can I make it so all the submodules are included / usable on every page?
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[08:09:15] <sacho_> KamalKaur, it?
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[08:10:06] <Hari__> hello all
[08:10:21] <Hari__> Is HoundDog here?
[08:10:22] <KamalKaur> sacho_, ng-app?
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[08:10:38] <Shivam> Hello
[08:10:39] <Hari__> How many are using JQuery over ANgularJS?
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[08:11:11] <Shivam> Can any one give me links to study NodeJs from starting
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[08:11:14] <Hari__> I see many interview people asking about jquery rather than angular js
[08:11:17] <Shivam> I am bigneer
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[08:11:33] <sacho_> KamalKaur, it sets up an injector and loads the module you pass as a parameter to the injector
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[08:12:05] <sacho_> Hari__, using jquery and angularjs is not necessarily and "either or" decision.
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[08:12:11] <sacho_> *an
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[08:12:33] <Stun> hiiiiiiiiiiii
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[08:12:42] <Stun> heloooooooooooooooooooo
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[08:12:52] <sacho_> KamalKaur, but you probably don't know what any of that means - so simply, ng-app is what bootstraps your application.
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[08:13:42] <KamalKaur> sacho_, :/
[08:13:55] <sacho_> ?
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[08:14:59] <massi_syed> i hope the huge list on the right side of my screen is not sleeping..
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[08:16:47] <KamalKaur> sacho_, yes, I dnt know but how to know?
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[08:18:46] <sacho_> KamalKaur, how to know what? I still don't know what you're trying to do, or what your problem is
[08:19:01] <sacho_> if you just want to learn about angular, there's tutorials and documentation on the site
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[08:20:38] <Stun> ANGULAR JS
[08:20:41] <Stun> NICE NAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[08:20:45] <Stun> tempting name
[08:20:50] <Stun> but old libraryyyyyyyyyyy
[08:20:54] <Stun> Jqueryyyyyyyyyyyyy
[08:20:58] <Stun> Angular js
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[08:21:21] <Stun> dddddddddddddd
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[08:22:02] <Stun> being logged at: http://goo.gl/8Wwttq | Be polite! ( *❛‿❛)/˚°◦🐙] [11:42] == Stun [b6485852 at gateway/web/freenode/ip dot 182.72.88.82] has joined #angularjs [11:42] <Stun> hiiiiiiiiiiii [11:42] == KushS [~kushagra at 103 dot 30.142.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [11:42] <Stun> heloooooooooooooooooooo [11:42] == Cache_Money [~Cache_Mon at c-24-18-232-193 dot hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] [11:42] <sacho_> Kamal
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[08:22:24] <sacho_> that's nice.
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[08:36:29] <djam90> Don't suppose robdubya still here
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[08:47:26] <s3shs> We may not be as good, or cool, but you can try to ask your Q anyway.
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[08:48:36] <zwacky> awww s3shs :>
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[08:51:15] <djam90> s3shs, I'll shoot anyways.. he was gonna take a look at my Sly Carousel in Angular that was playing up on iPads... I think the initialisation of the slider in my directive is probably the cause of it.. all of my code is here: http://jsbin.com/bumedata/1/edit
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[08:52:21] <s3shs> I'm not familiar with that, but you should take a look at the console. There are some major errors there that may be yours.
[08:52:51] <KamalKaur> sacho_, Yes, I want to learn AngularJS. I have followed phonecatAPP tutorial and built the app but not yet getting the flow. Not able to start a new app as I have not yet the required knowledge, that's the thing.
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[08:52:57] <djam90> console doesn't show any errors for me
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[08:54:23] <s3shs> http://cl.ly/image/3U000D2V2a15 is what I see.
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[08:55:07] <s3shs> I just don't know if they're causing problems.
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[08:55:45] <djam90> ahhh.. lol.. the code doesn't actually work in jsbin its just a place to put the code...
[08:56:05] <s3shs> Oh. Well, then.
[08:56:12] <djam90> however
[08:56:13] <djam90> the actual code
[08:56:14] <djam90> is
[08:56:28] <djam90> http://josh.sourceengine.co.uk/newcar/search/ford/focus
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[08:57:26] <s3shs> I see your ajaxCall(). Any reason you don't want to use $http? It'll apply the changes for you.
[08:57:48] <s3shs> I'm pretty pissed Ford discontinued their hybrid SUV, btw.
[08:57:51] <s3shs> ;-)
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[08:58:09] <djam90> I need to switch it over to $http just been busy
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[08:59:10] <s3shs> Gottcha.
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[09:01:16] <s3shs> So, found slyCarousel. So much code. I see refreshSlider function definition but I don't see you calling it anywhere.
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[09:01:33] <s3shs> Inentional?
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[09:02:24] <djam90> I call it in the JS on line 177
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[09:04:31] <s3shs> Damn, browser search only found the one.
[09:04:40] <mogaj> The login submit http://pastebin.com/5eh4n2dq works with out errors but the lead creation wrote in the same lines of login submit throws error property of undefined http://pastebin.com/0yk1gcjS what am i doing wrong? pls assist
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[09:08:23] <s3shs> djam90, no idea
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[09:18:27] <mogaj> Any suggestions pls
[09:18:29] <mogaj> The login submit http://pastebin.com/5eh4n2dq works with out errors but the lead creation wrote in the same lines of login submit throws error property of undefined http://pastebin.com/0yk1gcjS what am i doing wrong? pls assist
[09:18:51] <robdubya> djam90 i had a look. no idea
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[09:20:00] <djam90> robdubya, if you had to use this carousel, how would you "initialise" the carousel?
[09:20:26] <djam90> feel like it is wrong being in that whenDone() function that is inside the ng-if of the ng-repeat
[09:20:31] <robdubya> in a directive, far far away from the controller
[09:20:41] <djam90> its in a directive currently
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[09:21:09] <djam90> in the ng-repeat in the template, it has an ng-if="whenDone($last)"
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[09:21:13] <caitp> can you fix the formatting of that pastebin so I can actually read it
[09:21:16] <caitp> because damn dude
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[09:21:38] <robdubya> djam90 and i wouldnt use jquery at all
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[09:21:58] <robdubya> do you have to use that plugin, or do you just have to achieve the same end result
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[09:22:10] <djam90> same end result, but like, yesterday
[09:22:17] <robdubya> http://blog.revolunet.com/angular-carousel/
[09:22:30] <djam90> I tried that, its nowhere near good enough for what we need
[09:22:39] <robdubya> define what that is
[09:22:40] <djam90> it only shows one slide at a time
[09:22:48] <djam90> we need to show multiple slides at once
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[09:23:04] <robdubya> ...annnd
[09:23:15] <djam90> it needs left and right buttons
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[09:23:23] <djam90> mouse and touch dragging
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[09:23:36] <djam90> the ability for a slide to be "active"
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[09:23:45] <djam90> so that we can show info pertaining to that specific model below when that one is active
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[09:23:59] <Justus_> Good morning
[09:24:23] <Justus> argh
[09:24:32] <Justus> I hate finding out I'm already logged in XD
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[09:24:59] <Justus> I have actually made progress on that dynamic ng-model binding thing: http://plnkr.co/edit/ccdJTm0zBnqjntEQfAfx?p=preview
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[09:25:17] <Justus> initial binding works, but there's a little problem, the linking is persistent
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[09:25:26] <Rikle_S> someone use selectize there ?
[09:25:26] <robdubya> djam90 http://plnkr.co/edit/5JFeZgTup7abIsjxOeqi?p=preview
[09:25:44] <robdubya> that + 20 minutes of effort > that jquery mess
[09:25:46] <Justus> how would you go about recompiling the html parts of a scope to its scope
[09:26:36] <djam90> robdubya, how would you be able to make an item "active" ?
[09:26:37] <robdubya> djam90 that's the ui-bootstrap one, but none of them are super duper complciated
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[09:27:25] <ansu> for debugging purpose: how can I output private variables like $invalid in {{ myForm | json }} ?
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[09:29:41] <morenoh149> the ionic channel is not responding so I'll try here. Here's my code https://gist.github.com/morenoh149/12c9cdfd7e8e378f9bcc I'm getting Camera undefined. Anyone familiar with how the phonegap camera plugin makes the Camera var available?
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[09:31:06] <robdubya> morenoh149 ngCordova?
[09:31:25] <morenoh149> robdubya: yeah using that
[09:31:45] <robdubya> do you have the appropriate camera permissions added to the respective manifests?
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[09:32:05] <morenoh149> also ran cordova plugin add blah
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[09:32:57] <morenoh149> robdubya: no mention of that here https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-camera/blob/master/doc/index.md
[09:33:08] <morenoh149> how would I check
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[09:35:19] <robdubya> config.xml iirc
[09:35:38] <djam90> robdubya, I do have one question for ya
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[09:36:17] <robdubya> in theory morenoh149 doing plugin add should do it, but often not so much
[09:36:20] <djam90> any idea why $timeout(goSlygo) breaks it for iPads, but just having goSlyGo (without the timeout) it works now flawlessly
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[09:38:32] <robdubya> retina display
[09:38:33] <robdubya> webkit
[09:38:42] <robdubya> the entirely different js engines
[09:38:49] <robdubya> etc
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[09:39:17] <robdubya> but basically you've got 11ty lines of some jquery plugin nobody understands
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[09:39:22] <djam90> robdubya, but why is it the $timeout that kills it?
[09:40:26] <robdubya> you should read the timeout source
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[09:41:09] <djam90> I did but still unsure
[09:41:11] <robdubya> its basically a promise loop
[09:41:20] <robdubya> queue?
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[09:41:44] <robdubya> this is a better caitp question, since she writes browser code and all
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[09:41:56] <robdubya> but she's gonna yell at you about your code
[09:42:12] <robdubya> serously though
[09:42:23] <robdubya> just adapt ui-bootstrap
[09:42:29] <robdubya> or the one i linked
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[09:44:56] <robdubya> i pretty much gave up when the website for the plugin said it was untested on mobile
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[09:48:52] <morenoh149> hmm navigator.camera is undefined. So I think something's up with the way I installed the plugin
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[09:53:00] <caitp> use GUM
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[09:54:10] <mogaj> I am getting blank values from form while submitting form http://pastebin.com/4wUJQsyd can someone assist me here please
[09:54:27] <morenoh149> sheesh removing and adding the plugin makes navigator.camera non null. one step closer
[09:54:51] <caitp> why are you using plugins when we have GUM
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[09:57:22] <robdubya> gum?
[09:57:59] <morenoh149> robdubya: you know ... GUM
[09:58:01] <morenoh149> lol
[09:58:17] <morenoh149> I have no clue either ?:(
[09:58:43] <caitp> getUserMedia
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[10:03:52] <morenoh149> caitp: it was more of an ionic question but it's slow over there so I asked here
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[10:08:11] <mogaj> I am getting blank values from form while submitting form http://pastebin.com/4wUJQsyd can someone assist me here please
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[10:13:46] <caitp> mogaj it's not really enough info would need to see what your server is doing
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[10:15:42] <storkme> as far as I can make out there's hardly any difference between a factory and a service
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[10:17:00] <caitp> you're correct
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[10:18:17] <mogaj> caitp, server? why the data is not going to server at all
[10:18:32] <caitp> you have providers, factories which are just a shorthand for providers, services which are actually instantiated differently but solve essentially the same problem, constants and values
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[10:19:01] <caitp> mogaj, you're $http.posting it
[10:19:14] <caitp> so, you are making a network request here
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[10:19:38] <mogaj> caitp, but i am notgetting to that point .. that is the problem ... getting blank values
[10:20:17] <caitp> that's the only logging I see happening in your post
[10:20:29] <caitp> in the success handler of the post request
[10:21:19] <mogaj> caitp, to $http.pst i need to send formdat to the request right? but the form data is blank that is my concern
[10:21:38] <mogaj> caitp, to $http.pst i need to send formdata to the request right? but the form data is blank that is my concern
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[10:22:24] <G1eb> mogaj, you don't need to give 'lead' to the submit function, the newlead model is available in the controller
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[10:22:57] <caitp> Gleb passing the model to the submit function is a good thing to do, though
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[10:23:26] <mogaj> G1eb, will that make any difference?
[10:23:38] <G1eb> caitp, oh :) for readability purposes?
[10:24:02] <caitp> for readability, and so that you have an alias to the object so that you can clear it immediately and still have your data
[10:24:05] <caitp> among other things
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[10:24:14] <mogaj> G1eb, even then i get blank values
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[10:24:32] <caitp> are you typing values into the form controls?
[10:24:34] <G1eb> ahh okay I agree with that
[10:24:51] <mogaj> caitp, yes i am typing values and submitting it
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[10:25:19] <caitp> is your jquery stuff doing weird stuff to the form controls?
[10:25:38] <mogaj> caitp, wierd like
[10:26:22] <caitp> like changing the values and then triggering input events
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[10:26:52] <mogaj> caitp, yes .. when value changes it trigger other events
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[10:27:36] <caitp> thats not what i asked =)
[10:27:47] <caitp> anyways, I suggest removing the jquery validation stuff
[10:27:51] <caitp> and trying without it
[10:27:58] <caitp> angular has all kinds of builtin validation tools
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[10:28:18] <caitp> and matias's new ngMessages module is pretty useful for rendering validation errors
[10:28:20] <mogaj> caitp, this works fine http://pastebin.com/5eh4n2dq
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[10:29:08] <mogaj> caitp, i tried without validations and i got the same blank values
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[10:29:32] <caitp> then yer doin something else wrong =) but it's hard to say what looking at a poorly formatted pastebin
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[10:31:03] <guilbep> hm. doo you think it's a good idea to have module handling their routing?
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[10:31:33] <guilbep> Oh btw :p good morngin to you all !
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[10:32:23] <G1eb> caitp, I've made a jsfiddle for checking and patching specific fields of an object, could you take a look please? I suspect there is an easier way
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[10:32:55] <caitp> sure
[10:33:00] <G1eb> http://jsfiddle.net/7zdHw/3/
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[10:33:33] <caitp> gonna update mavericks though, so i might disconnect before i answer
[10:33:55] <G1eb> that's fine, I'm here all day
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[10:34:33] <caitp> well gleb, you're reporting values changed even if they didn't actually change
[10:34:36] <caitp> is that expected?
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[10:34:47] <caitp> *disconnecting in 3 seconds*
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[10:40:39] <mogaj> caitp, For clarity ... I am pasting code separately Leadsform.html - http://pastebin.com/1KK1Uk9K LeadController.js - http://pastebin.com/aVYpBW4D ... data being sent to $http.post http://pastebin.com/Z7vRqR1S please check it
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[10:42:26] <mogaj> Getiing blank values from form to $http.post please assist I am pasting code separately Leadsform.html - http://pastebin.com/1KK1Uk9K LeadController.js - http://pastebin.com/aVYpBW4D ... data being sent to $http.post http://pastebin.com/Z7vRqR1S please check it
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[10:43:27] <G1eb> caitp, yeah not desirable but expected in this case, imagine it was inside a scope.$watch. I was just wondering if there was a better way to check for change of a specific object field
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[10:43:39] <mogaj> Hi caitp
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[10:44:27] <mdix> I'm using ui-router. Is it possible to remove a state on runtime?
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[10:46:01] <G1eb> mdix, remove a state?
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[10:47:46] <mdix> First of all: Thanks for your answer / question. Really glad you spend some time trying to help me. BTT: Yeah. It's a bit complicated. I define states via $stateProvider.state, but it might happen that some states should not be accessible (so when I enter the defined url in the address bar, I should not get redirected to the state but instead to the route defined via otherwise)
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[10:49:29] <mdix> G1eb: I'd need a possibility to override the current defined states and define them again.
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[10:49:52] <G1eb> mdix, what you describe is something usually solved with permissions
[10:50:12] <mdix> G1eb: Ok, we have no perms, but sounds reasonable. So I'd just change the perms on runtime
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[10:51:36] <G1eb> yeah
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[10:52:12] <orion1111> I replaced angular v1.0.4 with newest (1.3), but now everything is broken. List doesn't show items
[10:52:14] <mdix> G1eb: Nice, thanks for your help!
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[10:53:02] <guilbep> orion1111 well a lot of breaking changes. you should have expected that.
[10:53:14] <orion1111> this is really frustrating
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[11:08:08] <djam90> caitp, I am using Sly Carousel in a directive and when I put the init code inside $timeout, it breaks everything APPLE but works on every other device possible, do you happen to know why?
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[11:09:03] <caitp> nope
[11:09:14] <djam90> hmm
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[11:24:51] <oal> When Angular.js 2 comes out, will there be a lot of breaking changes, or can we expect there to be an easy upgrade path?
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[11:28:00] <caitp> lol
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[11:33:20] <storkme> authentication is hard and i don't wanna do it :c
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[11:44:13] <ignu5> hello people, I have an html template that's other than the markup, ismostly text (it represents a document). I want to be able to use a dataObject from my application, so that I can use it's data on my template. How would you advise me to go on with something like this? My idea is using ng-include for the template, along with a controller that will take care of appending the objecData on the template. Since I'm new, I'd love to hea
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[11:48:35] <intellix> damn, realllllly not a fan of the Ionic CSS framework
[11:48:41] <mogaj> Even though object is being defined i am getting undefined error :(
[11:49:56] <caitp> if you're getting an undefined error, then something is not defined
[11:50:04] <intellix> the selectors are so un-necessarily specific as well like: .button.button-block…. like you would try and apply a .button-block somewhere else :P
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[11:50:57] <caitp> "undefined error" is usually either a reference error (trying to reference an undefined variable) or a type error (trying to invoke an undefined function), etc
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[11:59:27] <Keika> hey there
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[12:00:20] <Keika> I'd like ask for help but somehow I can't get angular.ui loaded on plunker, can someone have a look please?
[12:00:21] <Keika> http://plnkr.co/edit/gPGvgFZf27evHFl4dCuu?p=preview
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[12:14:31] <mogaj> inside jquery-steps wizard div data is not binding but outside the jquery-steps div the data is binding ... how to fix this anyone please assist
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[12:23:48] <amtiskaw> What's the best way for a directive to schedule code to run post-binding and DOM rendering? I need to bind the content of an SVG text element then immediately use its bounding box size to adjust the layout of some other elements.
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[12:29:47] <AciD`> amtiskaw > on ready
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[12:30:31] <AciD`> amtiskaw > `angular.element(document).ready(function() { foo(); });`
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[12:31:22] <amtiskaw> Acid`: The problem is these directive is loaded when the navigates to a particular route, not when the document is first loaded.
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[12:37:16] <storkme> conventional web authentication is easy because the user credentials are stored in the session (server side) so it can just add in the username when it renders the page.... how is this handled in a SPA ? are we supposed to encode user data/roles/access tokens in the $sessionStore ?
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[12:38:40] <cctom> Hi there! I was wondering if someone could show me how I can change the text of my button according to value of favoriteState in my directive: http://laravel.io/bin/Kq00B ?
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[12:42:40] <amedia> hey angular users
[12:42:55] <ppppaul> hey amedia
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[12:43:43] <amedia> can someone help me out, how to specify that controller gets scope from parent, but it does not automatically update the parent scope, but only when data in scope is successfully saved?
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[12:44:57] <caitp> cctom: http://laravel.io/bin/n5o1l
[12:45:27] <ppppaul> cctom, i can't open your link (i'm in china... maybe that domain is blocked)
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[12:46:04] <cctom> caitp: thanks. why is it bad to make a seperate module for my directives? I want to reuse them accross multiple apps..
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[12:46:16] <ppppaul> amedia, you can copy the scope
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[12:46:40] <amedia> ppppaul, thanks, are there any tutorials on web?
[12:47:11] <caitp> cctom, I find that to be pretty unlikely tbh, but if you ARE going to reuse them, don't call them `foo.directives` --- you should not be grouping things in collections of directives, services, controllers
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[12:47:35] <caitp> you should have a package which contains all the controllers, services, and directives which are pertinent to that package
[12:48:03] <ppppaul> https://github.com/angular/angular.js/wiki/Understanding-Scopes
[12:48:13] <caitp> separating them out might seem like it makes sense, but it turns out it really doesn't in nearly all cases
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[12:48:47] <ppppaul> amedia, scope has a $new method... maybe you could look at that
[12:48:54] <ppppaul> sorry, my internet is really slow :(
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[12:49:02] <cctom> caitp: I’m coming from backbone and just started with angular yesterday. In backbone it’s OK to group things into controllers etc. So no seperate module defintions then? I also say Ionic framework doing it that way.
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[12:49:07] <ppppaul> i think angular's site is blocked in china
[12:49:36] <caitp> lots of people are doing it that way
[12:49:40] <caitp> that doesn't mean they're making a smart choice
[12:49:52] <caitp> the thing is that controllers, directives and services are often (frequently) coupled
[12:49:57] <caitp> so it doesn't make sense to split them apart
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[12:50:36] <caitp> admittedly, the angular-seed app is not helping, it is definitely encouraging people to do the wrong thing here
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[12:51:08] <ppppaul> i follow ng-boilerplate. my code is organized by pages or features
[12:51:16] <ppppaul> works pretty well
[12:51:19] <cctom> caitp: sure, ill read up on it
[12:52:05] <caitp> project organization isn't that big of a deal, but I find going down this path is going to confuse people later on
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[12:56:03] <orion1111> new version of angular now flawlessy works with my project.
[12:56:31] <orion1111> it was just issue with my code
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[13:10:35] <cctom> caitp: can you please explain what the $scope.$digest(); does in your example?
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[13:10:59] <caitp> $digest() will run the angular dirty checking code
[13:11:11] <arek_at_work> can we actually create isolate scope controllers?
[13:11:13] <caitp> which will update the DOM
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[13:11:19] <arek_at_work> caitp: good day caitp
[13:11:34] <caitp> > <arek_at_work> can we actually create isolate scope controllers? --- yes
[13:11:49] <arek_at_work> how? without using directives
[13:11:51] <caitp> you can create a controller for a directive with an isolate scope, it will be injected with an isolate scope
[13:12:02] <caitp> you can instantiate a controller manually and give it any scope you want
[13:12:32] <caitp> however you won't have isolate scope bindings set up unless it is a directive
[13:12:33] <arek_at_work> caitp: but not using .controller helper?
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[13:12:56] <caitp> $controller(expr, locals)
[13:13:07] <mon> Hello friend, I'm looking for a filter/directive to change for example 7m to 7000000
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[13:13:23] <arek_at_work> mon: write one :D
[13:13:32] <mon> :D
[13:13:36] <mon> okay
[13:13:44] <caitp> locals = { $scope: someScope, ... }
[13:13:46] <arek_at_work> this is realyl simple
[13:14:11] <arek_at_work> caitp: great, thank You caitp, You are my hero !
[13:14:15] <storkme> when authenticating with oauth (password type authentication) is there any reason I couldn't store the (bearer) token in angulars $cookieStore ??
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[13:15:36] <arek_at_work> caitp: but how do i make this controller available to module?
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[13:16:46] <caitp> put it in window, or register it with DI, or register it with your directive
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[13:31:19] <Malkav> Guys, is there a way to shut down RootScope location watch?
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[13:59:19] <nytram> Hi, i hav ea Angular question about data binding, is it possible if my template cannot find property "name" in de scope when using {{name}}. it does not show undefined but an empty string?
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[13:59:49] <nytram> so when undefined or null return an empty string?
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[14:00:17] <Efrem> nytram: I believe you can use {{name || ''}}
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[14:01:42] <nytram> No other way ?
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[14:01:57] <nytram> without having to modify all my templates.
[14:01:59] <Zerot> doesn't it do that already?
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[14:02:47] <Efrem> I've never run into an issue where it showed null/undefined myself so I thought it did too Zerot but I figured my mind wasn't awake yet
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[14:03:13] <Efrem> I don't know of any other option there nytram
[14:03:34] <nytram> hmm let me test this real quick, getting undefined's in this one template.
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[14:04:33] <Zerot> unless you manually set it as the string "undefined" it should show it as an empty string afaik
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[14:04:54] <Zerot> e.g. doing scope.name = ""+obj; would cause that
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[14:11:10] <nytram> Zerot: you are correct, it does return an empty string if not found on the scope.
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[14:11:45] <nytram> somehow i am getting undefined's, maybe because i am using my own directive and programmaticly trying to parse html with binding.
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[14:14:12] <joroci> hey, if i have two routes like /library/ and /library/:id
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[14:14:46] <joroci> the event routechangesuccess triggers twice for each route
[14:14:54] <joroci> how can i prevent that?
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[14:18:23] <Malkav> guys, is there a way to disable RootScope location watch in an app?
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[14:33:10] <mokush> is there some way to set $routeParams without having to manually re-build the entire url? something like $location.search?
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[14:45:14] <enapupe> morning!
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[14:46:00] <enapupe> I want to discuss about to beta or not to beta.. I'm starting a project which is not going to be ready in less than 6 months.. which version should I use?
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[14:55:35] <frege> hey guys
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[14:55:49] <frege> how can I use $http.patch instead of .put ?
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[15:00:06] <drake01> hi i am debugging some angularjs/javascript code in google chrome. at error, the view 404 is loaded instead of just showing the error on screen. I want to find last line of script before browser loads 404 page. how to do that?
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[15:11:38] <Malkav> guys, is there a way to disable RootScope location watch in an app?
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[15:12:38] <Foxandxss> that is a good question
[15:12:47] <Foxandxss> I don't recall any $off kind of function
[15:12:48] <LRFalk01> Heyo!. I have a base controller in my app that does a check on startup to see if the current user is authenticated, and if they are not they are redirected to login. This check happens every time in $stateChangeStart. However, in $stateChangeStart I am able to do event.preventDefault() to stop the ui-router from navigating to whereever it was going before redirecting to login. Is there a way to stop the router from going to
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[15:13:30] <LRFalk01> The redirect is working, but the requested pages loads and then goes to the redirect.
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[15:34:34] <Simon_> Hello.
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[15:36:51] <Simon_> I have a question regarding xhr query cancellation. I can't find a way in my Xhr interceptor to check if the query was cancelled or failed. The rejection object doesn't contain the correct information.
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[15:43:37] <Matt______> Cixis are you there?
[15:44:10] <Matt______> Anyone know how to convert a standard provider implementation into TypeScript class syntax?
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[15:44:54] <Matt______> I am trying to write a Provider to use in my config section but I am a little confused about how I expose the syntax using TypeScript
[15:45:23] <Matt______> It is the $get function that I am having trouble creating
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[15:47:10] <enapupe> So.. Am I thinking this right? http://i.imgur.com/PnicDIa.png
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[15:54:00] <dbouwman> sce wizards... I'm using ng to build a WYSIWYG page layout system that emits "vanilla" html. Users want to embed twitter widgets, and see them in the preview, but I'm being stymied by sce as the widget is a mix of html & script tags... HALP!! :)
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[15:54:36] <masak> where can I learn more about staggered animations in Angular?
[15:54:59] <masak> specifically, are those limited to jQuery animations, or can I do that with something like CSS transitions too?
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[15:55:26] <Gho5t> doesn't ngModel.$setViewValue automatically call $render after?
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[15:56:04] <Gho5t> or do I have to do that manually?
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[16:01:53] <dk01> anyone using protractor+saucelabs+bamboo integration?
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[16:03:55] <Matt______> Anyone created a Provider in TypeScript?
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[16:05:07] <Matt______> ping
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[16:07:10] <Gho5t> man is there some sort of hard and fast rule of when you need to call $render for your ngModel? It doesn't seem to get triggered automatically when I"m calling $setViewValue
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[16:16:04] <wildling> How to authenticate REST calls from angular js using sessions/cookies? I am using Django as the backend. I am looking for something similar to 'cookielib' in python.
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[16:18:05] <shr3djs> Where in the world would i get the highest pay working on projects using nagular?
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[16:27:22] <Matt______> Has anyone created a Provider using TypeScript? I am having trouble with the $get syntax in a TypeScript class?
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[16:35:14] <okdamn> hello, sorry which is the angular equivalent to document.getElementById('myid'); ??
[16:35:19] <okdamn> still not getting this
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[16:35:55] <bd> there isn't an angular equivalent
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[16:36:18] <bd> in a directive, you can manipulate the dom with the standard document.getElementById, or jquery
[16:36:27] <shr3djs> Anyone here needs an angular developper ?
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[16:36:56] <okdamn> bd: i would like to avoid document binding
[16:37:11] <okdamn> as well as window binding , angular uses $document and $window instead
[16:37:19] <okdamn> and $document.getelementById() wont work
[16:37:32] <bd> in the link function of a directive you get access to the element it's applied to
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[16:37:47] <bd> so you can element.find(selector)
[16:37:52] <bd> or just work with element itself
[16:38:04] <kapeed2091> Is there any cookie manager for angular js?
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[16:38:16] <bd> $cookies/$cookieStore
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[16:38:42] <AlexAbraham> hey
[16:38:59] <AlexAbraham> anyone have experience using ngResource?
[16:39:12] <AlexAbraham> I need to find out how to get response headers from a promise
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[16:42:53] <okdamn> bd: $window.document ;)
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[16:42:56] <okdamn> now i got it
[16:42:57] <okdamn> thanks
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[16:43:48] <bd> yes, okdamn, but you shouldn't be using that either really
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[16:44:10] <okdamn> bd: its ok m8 $window is ok for me ;)
[16:44:10] <oniijin> yeah ew
[16:44:16] <bd> generally you don't want to get by id's
[16:44:22] <bd> you want to apply a directive to the element instead
[16:44:26] <oniijin> in the link function u get access to the element
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[16:44:35] <oniijin> dont be smellin up the joint
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[16:46:53] <bradmc> ping robdubya
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[16:50:11] <kapeed2091> <bd> I think with cookie/cookieStore we need to manually set the cookies. Is there any cookie manager kind of (similar to cookielib for python) where if the response has 'Set-Cookie' header it automatically stores the cookie?
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[16:51:43] <bd> the browser does that already?
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[16:51:54] <bd> or are you talking about storing cookies not as cookies?
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[16:56:44] <kapeed2091> @bd normally browser parses httpresponse and manages cookies (Sending cookies in request and setting cookies after parsing response) but when making calls using angularjs $http this isn't happening..
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[16:57:28] <ojacobson> should be (and does when I testit)
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[17:04:55] <frege> what do you guys use for sketching/wireframe?
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[17:05:14] <frege> something that you can share/edit online
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[17:05:24] <oniijin> paper
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[17:05:28] <oniijin> and a scanner
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[17:08:55] <shr3djs> hey ng-keypress is not working with arrows key
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[17:09:19] <bradmc> so I made this bower package so I could install OpenSans into my projects with bower. Pushed it up to GitHub like I'm supposed to....2 weeks later I wake up to a GH issue.
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[17:09:31] <bradmc> kinda funny. was never intended for anyone to use. :-)
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[17:09:46] <Pierre_N> ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
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[17:09:54] <Pierre_N> whoops, awkward.
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[17:10:39] <bradmc> Pierre_N: I don't even know what that's supposed to do
[17:10:57] <oniijin> hides all the channel msgs
[17:10:59] <Pierre_N> bradmc: heh, just stopping all joins/quits from appearing in my irc client (irssi)
[17:11:02] <oniijin> when peope join/leave/etc
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[17:11:15] <bradmc> ah...cool. I should try that
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[17:11:25] <bradmc> that would be AWESOME. ;-)
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[17:11:28] <Pierre_N> bradmc: with a / at the start ;-)
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[17:11:42] <bradmc> did I just write Noob all over my face? :-)
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[17:11:58] <oniijin> amongst other areas
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[17:14:03] <bradmc> nice
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[17:21:07] <Pierre_N> Sooo I did the Shaping up with AngularJS tutorial on Code School.. I feel like there are still bits that I haven't learned though - where do I go from here?
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[17:21:21] <Pierre_N> ( https://www.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js )
[17:21:24] <oniijin> code school is super remeidal
[17:21:28] <Pierre_N> I think I missed stuff todo with routes, scope..
[17:21:29] <oniijin> remedial*
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[17:21:33] <Pierre_N> yeah :/
[17:21:36] <oniijin> egghead/thinkster
[17:21:43] <Pierre_N> okie dokie!
[17:21:47] <oniijin> http://www.thinkster.io/angularjs/GtaQ0oMGIl
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[17:22:03] <Pierre_N> \o/ thanks
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[17:23:27] <storkme> hi, stupid question time - using ui.router, navigating to http://localhost/ doesn't trigger a statechangestart event, whereas navigating to //localhost/#/ does - what's the deal?
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[17:29:04] <Moult> i have a directive, and upon clicking a child element in that directive, i'd like it to add a class to an element elsewhere on the page (sibling). what's the best way to do this?
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[17:35:12] <G1eb> Moult, not sure if it's the best way to do it but you can add $rootScope and set a flag boolean on it, changing that when that button is clicked, then you can use ng-class="" to trigger the class based on that var
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[17:36:12] <Moult> G1eb: using rootscope sounds like a bad idea.
[17:36:36] <ojacobson> Moult: My first reflex is to have them collaborate through a parent directive
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[17:47:09] <Pierre_N> is there an obvious tutorial related to saving data from the browser back to a db on the server?
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[17:50:16] <Moult> Pierre_N: can you not just send a $http.post?
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[17:50:48] <Pierre_N> ah, mmm, yes.
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[17:52:45] <zumba_addict> hey guys, need your help. I have $scope.deviceConnected and it updates this <span class="odometerChartFooterAttr">{{deviceConnected}}</span> However, it only works the first or second time. console.log($scope.deviceConnected) always shows the correct value but not on the html. I've step over and I don't see any other calls overwriting it
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[17:58:24] <shackleford> does the $http service exist within $resource?
[17:58:51] <shackleford> I know they are 2 different services, but I am not sure how they are connected, other than services to get data
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[18:02:40] <bullicon> how do I test unit test with protractor without running the selenium server
[18:02:46] <Moult> ojacobson: i can't do that, because the element i need to affect is loaded by another directive via templateurl as a element replacement
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[18:06:26] <amedia> two way data binding does not work between my controller and directive. the directive gets the scope, but then it doesnt update the parent scope in controller. i am using =. can someone give me any directions?
[18:06:38] <bullicon> How do you write unit tests with angular js ?
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[18:08:23] <zikomiko> hi, I'm getting the error - angular.js /angular Not found while I'm running $http.get function. Any idea why I get this error?
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[18:09:33] <bullicon> how do I use inject with protractor
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[18:10:59] <zumba_addict> OMG, why is this happening? $scope.connectedDevice does get updated on screen. But I have to highlight the text
[18:11:18] <zumba_addict> the value is a number
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[18:13:06] <zumba_addict> I added this but it didn't help - $scope.deviceConnected = " ";
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[18:17:02] <zumba_addict> I even added $scope.$apply but I'm getting this error - Error: [$rootScope:inprog] $digest already in progress
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[18:19:26] <patrickc_> hi - can anyone verify that it's possible to change a directive's ngModel.$viewValue from a second directive and have the first directive's ngModel.$parsers/$formatters fire?
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[18:23:09] <Zerot> patrickc_: use $setViewValue(newValue). afaik that will run the parsers
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[18:27:26] <linagee> can someone please help with a weird double .bind() happening on angular-ui? https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-utils/blob/master/modules/mask/mask.js#L164
[18:27:56] <linagee> specifically: https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-utils/issues/189
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[18:31:23] <zumba_addict> f**k, ng-bind solved it!
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[18:34:45] <jaime> hello guys, do you know how to deal with unwanted side effects from "run" statements configured in modules when in testing mode?
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[18:35:53] <jaime> basically I want that run statements do not get invoked while in testing mode
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[18:37:41] <zumba_addict> hey folks, is it a good idea to change all {{}} with ng-bind?
[18:38:32] <jaime> I always prefer ng-bind
[18:38:42] <jaime> leads to cleaner markup
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[18:39:24] <jaime> but that's just aesthetics, not a technical decision.
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[18:41:15] <mattt_> Is jasmine necessary for angular-mocks? I’m trying to figure out all the different pieces I need to get unit testing working, and which are interchangable - karma, jasmine, mocha, chai, should - which are necessary, which can be substituted, which do or do not work in the browser?
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[18:42:20] <cthrax> mattt_, jasmine is not necessary
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[18:42:34] <cthrax> we use karma/mocha/chai
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[18:43:35] <jaime> about the run statements issue, I found my answer in the docs...
[18:43:36] <jaime> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/module
[18:43:44] <jobney> jaime, move your run statements into a seperate file and don't load it in the test runner
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[18:44:28] <jaime> basically you put the run statements in a module used exclusively for this, and just don't load it in test mode
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[18:45:06] <jobney> i don't typically seperate into a seperate module as much as just not loading the js file
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[18:46:19] <jaime> jobney, good suggestion, the thing is that I'm using grunt to grab all the files together and throw them all to kharma as is, having special ignore entries for these files would make the simple configuration model to grow overtime making it hard to reason about
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[18:46:36] <jaime> but thanks anyway
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[18:47:20] <jaime> I will go with the <module_name>.<bootstrap> convention for modules that take care of the run blocks
[18:47:23] <cthrax> jaime, sorry came in late to conversation, but are you trying to load different resources bases on testing?
[18:48:07] <jobney> just omit the run block i believe
[18:48:13] <cthrax> oh, nm then
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[18:48:15] <jaime> no, I just want to mute the run statements because of their side effects
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[18:48:38] <cthrax> thought I could add something substantial, but that's completely different
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[18:49:23] <jaime> and mock the services to angular.noop on each test is tedious, thus, I opt for having dedicated modules that I simply don't load while in testing mode
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[18:50:14] <cthrax> ah, I took the other approach, decorate production modules while testing
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[18:51:02] <jaime> and by side effects I mean something like running a timeout func that polls a given resource in the server
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[18:51:48] <cthrax> you're concerned about isolation of the test?
[18:51:57] <Port-O-Bucket> I’ve had trouble for a few days authenticating ngmodules.org with github… anyone else?
[18:51:57] <cthrax> because the mocked version of $timeout gives you control to tick the clock
[18:52:03] <jaime> if I keep the run statement in the same module of this service, right away once I load such module, I get a http exception, I must mock it out to noop in order to avoid any issue
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[18:52:22] <jaime> and such module could have several services/factories that I need to test
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[18:53:03] <cthrax> jaime, sure, we pretty much have a mock of our API that loads while testing
[18:53:20] <jaime> and doing this mocks in all of them seems hard to reason about (why is he noop'ing this service over and over) and hard to maintain (new run statement? now you have to noop the services that are used in them)
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[18:54:10] <cthrax> I don't use the run method in very many places, so I can't say I've run into that (ha, see what I did there?)
[18:54:18] <jaime> :D
[18:54:20] <jaime> good one
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[18:54:42] <reflecti`> anyone here use http://mgcrea.github.io/angular-strap/##datepickers ? Everytime I type in a date like 1984, it doesn't resolve the date. Is this a known issue or are there some configs to get around this?
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[18:54:54] <jaime> I tend to not abuse of them because, but this one was impossible to avoid.
[18:55:04] <jaime> I tend to not abuse of them because of the testing issues, but this one was impossible to avoid.
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[18:56:45] <ivan__> what is so magical about angular?
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[18:57:01] <cthrax> ivan__, pixie dust and unicorns
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[18:57:33] <ivan__> sounds like not quite serious really
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[18:57:45] <ivan__> magic=bullsht
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[18:58:03] <ojacobson> ivan__: it's not a very serious question
[18:58:05] <cthrax> ivan__, you a traditional web developer?
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[18:58:30] <in_deep_thought> can someone explain why the images in this: http://plnkr.co/edit/YLuL11eEF7zYNnE4PQ1H?p=preview are showing up in a grid display? usually for a grid display you have to add float: left or display: inline-block or something. This doesn’t seem to have anything like that. Is there something inherent about ng-repeat that does this?
[18:58:41] <ivan__> tI am a scientist, that;s why I think that this magic thing is just to create an aura of commercial sht
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[18:58:57] <ivan__> for kids
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[18:59:09] <ivan__> not for grown ups
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[18:59:16] <elxa> if I have a factory A depending on factory B and I want to test factory A, how can I mock function calls to factory B made in factory A?
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[19:00:56] <ivan__> this magic thing is not serious and all the invented words coming from google that intend to make ppl idiots
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[19:01:08] <quan___> ivan__: its not and whether a scientist or not, what you think doesnt matter really to any one else, especially if youre gonna make silly statements like that
[19:01:14] <Zerot> ivan__: wtf are you talking about?
[19:01:28] <ojacobson> ivan__: who are you even fighting with
[19:01:31] <quan___> hes got a straw man on the mat
[19:01:32] <cthrax> Zerot, he's just trolling, don't feed him
[19:01:37] <quan___> and is about to get TKO
[19:01:44] <cthrax> this is a no troll feeding zone
[19:01:48] <quan___> just wrecking that strawman
[19:01:48] <ivan__> just wanted to check if there are some other normal ppl
[19:02:03] <ivan__> maaagiiiiccccc
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[19:02:33] <ivan__> do you know some other "invented " words?
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[19:02:42] <ivan__> like THe Monkeys
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[19:04:05] <cthrax> elxa, you ought to be able to mock the provider for service B
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[19:04:29] <bullicon> getting ReferenceError: angular is not defined in my spec file
[19:04:39] <bullicon> how do I access angular or injector in protractor
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[19:05:19] <cthrax> elxa, this might help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18730522/injecting-mock-angular-service-dependencies
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[19:06:00] <bullicon> cthrax throws Reference error on angular
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[19:06:31] <cthrax> bullicon, I haven't used protractor, so I can't help you
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[19:06:44] <bullicon> cthrax what do you use for testing?
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[19:06:54] <cthrax> karma/mocha/chai
[19:07:07] <cthrax> no functional tests yet, it's on the list
[19:07:14] <elxa> cthrax: thx
[19:07:19] <cthrax> np
[19:07:20] <bullicon> what do you use for unit testing?
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[19:07:30] <bullicon> i learnt karma is for setting things up
[19:07:31] <cthrax> bullicon, karma/mocha/chai
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[19:08:02] <cthrax> karma is a test runner, mocha test framework, chai is an assert library
[19:08:06] <bullicon> mocha's syntax looks similar to jasmine
[19:08:15] <cthrax> it is
[19:08:20] <bullicon> do you mock the backend as well?
[19:08:26] <cthrax> I do
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[19:08:37] <nickeddy> mock all the things
[19:08:38] <bullicon> how do you access angular injector for example with mocha
[19:08:40] <cthrax> that's right
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[19:09:02] <bullicon> been mocking around all day trying to get protractor to work
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[19:09:39] <bullicon> any quick guide on how to setup karma/mocha/chai with an angular app ?
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[19:10:30] <cthrax> not that I'm aware of
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[19:10:37] <cthrax> I just followed the guide for each individually
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[19:11:14] <bullicon> cthrax so unlike jasmine, you run mocha in the browser?
[19:11:23] <cthrax> bullicon, there are karma plugins for mocha and chai that helps things out
[19:11:24] <bullicon> I need to know how to hook them
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[19:11:41] <bullicon> ok i will now close all my tabs and start afresh
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[19:11:59] <cthrax> karma is the runner, I run things on phantomjs
[19:12:08] <cthrax> most of the time
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[19:12:21] <cthrax> mocha gets loaded by karma into phantomjs
[19:12:25] <bullicon> its surprising there is no simple guide to get things started
[19:12:39] <cthrax> you can look at yeoman, I hear good things, but I've never used it
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[19:13:12] <cthrax> also, just because I don't know about it, doesn't mean there isn't one
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[19:13:21] <cthrax> in fact, it's highly likely there is
[19:13:26] <cthrax> I just don't know about it
[19:13:45] <bullicon> lots of tutorials show code
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[19:13:51] <bullicon> but now how to set things up
[19:13:55] <bullicon> or hook them up
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[19:22:24] <arek_at_work> why would my animation on show/hide applied t ng-repeat not work?
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[19:25:31] <postitnote> http://plnkr.co/edit/pIjHPPFyErXvjNyXH5WT?p=preview oh plnkr. What is "uncaught object" ack…can't even make plnkr
[19:25:43] <nickeddy> postitnote: open in firefox
[19:25:48] <nickeddy> postitnote: that's an issue with chrome
[19:26:03] <postitnote> nickeddy: Thanks.
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[19:26:44] <cthrax> nickeddy, an extremely annoying issue, that is fixed in canary
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[19:41:49] <Cixis> caitp: do you do chrome development?
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[19:42:10] <caitp> a little bit
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[19:42:38] <Cixis> i'm having an issue with a site consistently crashing chrome and trying to find the best way to debug it. any thoughts?
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[19:42:52] <Cixis> atm i'm fiddling with windbg
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[19:43:18] <caitp> is it your own site, or someone elses?
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[19:43:21] <Cixis> my own
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[19:43:39] <caitp> if it's hosted, you could post an issue on the tracker (crbug.com)
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[19:43:47] <Cixis> private extranet
[19:43:52] <caitp> those usually get a response pretty quickly
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[19:44:12] <Cixis> hm
[19:44:22] <caitp> well, I haven't seen too many sites which outright broke chrome, and the one site that did, I'm not entirely sure what was causing it --- possibly bad headers
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[19:44:34] <Cixis> would it even make sense to pull the chromium sources and compile my own build with debug symbols?
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[19:44:39] <caitp> we pretty much fixed that one by trial and error
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[19:44:43] <Cixis> heh
[19:44:47] <TheAceOfHearts> baller
[19:44:48] <Cixis> yea, that's my next step - wireshark
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[19:45:20] <Cixis> was hoping i could generate a dump and analyze it, but it's fighting me
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[19:45:40] <monokrome> Sounds like something to tell your doctor about
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[19:45:53] <caitp> dude i'm drinking hot coffee
[19:45:54] <caitp> not cool :(
[19:46:03] <TheAceOfHearts> hahahhaa
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[19:46:14] <Cixis> what's wrong with hot coffee?
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[19:46:30] <TheAceOfHearts> I'm drinking a hot mocha espresso
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[19:46:34] <Cixis> caitp: thanks for the tips, i'll report back if i find something interesting
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[19:47:18] <jhamm> Has anyone had a problem with $routeProvider redirecting, it isnt changing my url?
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[19:47:51] <TheAceOfHearts> see, your problem is that you're using ngRoute
[19:48:12] <TheAceOfHearts> May I talk to you for a minute about your new lord and savior ui-router?
[19:48:19] <Cixis> heh
[19:48:22] <jhamm> please do
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[19:48:41] <Cixis> my first angular app, i used ui-router. since then i've learned to use ngRoute correctly. it's not so bad
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[19:49:05] <TheAceOfHearts> ui-router is zen. It lets you have nested states for real applications. ngRoute doesn't really work for applications, it only works if you're making old-style web apps.
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[19:49:45] <TheAceOfHearts> you CAN get around a lot of the issues with ngRoute, but it's hacky and terrible
[19:49:49] <monokrome> I think there's a bug in the most recent ui-router, because nesting isn't working :/
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[19:50:02] <TheAceOfHearts> terrible, shame on them D:
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[19:50:42] <jhamm> I have an app that i use ngRouter with no issues
[19:50:56] <jhamm> but in this app i am getting weird error with the redirect
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[19:51:09] <monokrome> ngRouter just couples your app very tightly to URLs and makes it hard to manage multiple view states is all
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[19:52:11] <jhamm> I will check out ui-router, but i still want to know what is going on with my redirect
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[19:52:17] <jhamm> it doesnt change the url
[19:52:21] <jhamm> but my page does change
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[19:52:40] <jhamm> and then i get a infdig error in the console
[19:52:47] <jhamm> but there is nothing attached to the scope
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[20:00:35] <postitnote> Ok I hope this is a joy to play with because it took me 20 minutes to set up http://plnkr.co/edit/BjAGjxPwndCXZfuRhoSs?p=preview I'm trying to do a crossfade but all I get is wonk. See style.less if you need a diversion from your otherwise productive day.
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[20:01:30] <monokrome> postitnote: You need to manage the z-index as well, right?
[20:01:58] <monokrome> You want the item that is fading out to be above the newly selected item so that it fades away, I think.
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[20:02:18] <monokrome> or are you trying to fade away followed by a fade in?
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[20:02:19] <postitnote> monokrome: I don't *think* so? Because they're crossfaded it shouldn't matter but maybe not.
[20:02:36] <postitnote> monokrome: Actually, overlap. So as one fades the other is fading in.
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[20:02:59] <postitnote> The position:absolute is redundant in the less file, sorry.
[20:03:08] <postitnote> I'm just noticing that.
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[20:03:21] <monokrome> yeah
[20:03:50] <postitnote> Shoot. I need to clean this up.
[20:03:52] <postitnote> Sorry about that.
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[20:04:08] <monokrome> postitnote: The problem is that you only have one container. When the content changes, it changes immediately because it's the same container that the other content was in, right?
[20:04:08] * postitnote watches as this solves the problem and he feels like a jackass
[20:04:25] <Cixis> rubber duck debugging, yo
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[20:04:30] <Cixis> it works
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[20:04:36] <shackleford> has anyone ever written a unit test for a function using $interval?
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[20:04:59] <monokrome> shackleford: Are you having a problem with it?
[20:05:00] <postitnote> monokrome: I believe the router will actually, during "transition" have two elements on the page, one will have ng-leave and one ng-enter for this time.
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[20:05:19] <monokrome> oh hmm
[20:05:23] <shackleford> I'm having a problem creating a unit test for it
[20:05:29] <shackleford> the service itself is working
[20:05:42] <postitnote> I like the cross fade because it takes the edge off of otherwise non-animated view switches.
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[20:06:17] <postitnote> A lot of other transitions come with too much other baggage…like wipes. People interpret right as forward and left as backward.
[20:06:18] <tommmied> Hey guys, i'm using transformResponse on $http, is there any way other than using interceptors to only transfrom on successful calls?
[20:06:19] <monokrome> shackleford: The trick here is that $interval is already tested. You should stub or mock $interval, because the goal of your unit test isn't to make sure that $interval works - nor do you really want a unit test that takes a bunch of time
[20:06:27] <postitnote> It's like editing video in 1994 all over again.
[20:06:32] <tommmied> not really sure how to make it not transform on error
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[20:07:01] <shackleford> monokrome, that has been the most concise advice I have recieved aobut unit testing
[20:07:03] <shackleford> thanks
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[20:07:32] <monokrome> shackleford: Hopefully that helps, let me know if I am wrong >.<
[20:07:33] <shackleford> so you suggest just create a mock and make sure it works with interval
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[20:08:41] <monokrome> It's hard to make direct implementation suggestions without seeing some code, but the basic idea is that you want to test a small unit of work in a way that wont cause the test to break when another unit of work breaks somewhere else
[20:09:06] <monokrome> because you should either be assuming that $interval is properly tested by Angular or you should have a test for the other unit of work somewhere else
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[20:09:25] <monokrome> It avoids the issue where one thing breaks and then a dozen tests fail instead of just the one test that actually tells you where the error is
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[20:10:14] <monokrome> As well as helps readability of tests to not have to worry about $interval and other more complicated behaviors
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[20:11:12] <monokrome> I think that the second point there is fixed by Angular because Angular might patch $interval to be syncronous during testing, but the first issue still becomes a problem in my experience
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[20:12:30] <monokrome> Does that help? O_o
[20:12:36] <monokrome> shackleford: ^
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[20:14:57] <Cixis> i'm going to cry
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[20:15:04] <monokrome> ?
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[20:15:11] <Cixis> chrome isn't generating crash reports
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[20:15:26] <Cixis> which tells me it's probbaly not chrome crashing
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[20:15:32] <Cixis> but man i sure wish it would tell me what's wrong
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[20:16:55] <shackleford> monokrome, some what
[20:17:04] <shackleford> I am trying to mock something up right noe
[20:17:05] <Port-O-Bucket> I just wanted to announce a library I did recently. It’s called ngLazy. It’s an easy implementation of a lazy load and infinite scroll. the dev uses a directive that wraps around the ng-repeat and it’s quickly integrated and reusable. I would love anyone’s notes or contributions! demo here: http://ng-Lazy.com
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[20:18:06] <andrastoth> Hi!! Does anybody know if ng-grid is using javascript for scrolling the header with the content? http://plnkr.co/edit/UfFnsZ?p=preview
[20:18:23] <postitnote> Ok no I still don't get it but clearly I'm close http://plnkr.co/edit/BjAGjxPwndCXZfuRhoSs?p=preview
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[20:19:55] <Hyperking> im considering using angular as a search tool for a static blog site. My plans are to construct a large json file with article names and urls. The search will bind the data to a view. How practical is this approach? and am i misusing angular?
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[20:20:28] <Hyperking> also the blog has over 800 post currently
[20:20:34] <Cixis> i would say don't use a giant json file
[20:20:43] <Cixis> but otherwise, seems fine
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[20:21:20] <AlexAbraham> hey
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[20:21:30] <AlexAbraham> anyone ever use this plugin for angular?
[20:21:30] <AlexAbraham> https://mgcrea.github.io/angular-strap/
[20:21:34] <Hyperking> Cixis: why not a large json file? file size is only 50k
[20:22:17] <postitnote> Hyperking: Stick all that data somewhere and access it via REST. Parse.com would be a good place.
[20:22:18] <Cixis> i suppose that's not too large, but why load everything when you don't need to?
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[20:22:53] <Cixis> and with gzip compression, the overhead of multiple requests probably makes it unreasonable not to use a single json file
[20:23:05] * Cixis shrugs
[20:23:12] <monokrome> postitnote: http://plnkr.co/edit/DUnFsIU3JMPZGbpWqcJh?p=preview
[20:23:22] <postitnote> Hyperking: Yeah, import that to http://parse.com or some other one rest host.
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[20:23:40] <Hyperking> Cixis: im trying to prevent developing a REST api
[20:23:59] <monokrome> postitnote: That link does the cross-fade, you were just overcomplicating the styles a bit.
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[20:24:32] <monokrome> You only need concern yourself with ng-enter-active and ng-leave-active really
[20:25:08] <Cixis> Hyperking: i didn't suggest rest
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[20:25:29] <monokrome> postitnote: Is that what you were trying to do?
[20:25:43] <Hyperking> postitnote: im trying to prevent a rest endpoint
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[20:26:09] <robdubya> sup
[20:26:16] <Hyperking> cixis: I was already drafting my message..
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[20:27:00] <postitnote> monokrome: Thanks! I think this isn't quite crossfading, right? Look at the "alert" -- I will play with this more. I have the ngAnimate class sequence open in another tab now.
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[20:27:05] <postitnote> Sorry about that.
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[20:27:18] <monokrome> postitnote: What isn't crossfading about it?
[20:27:19] <AlexAbraham> hey can i run angular.module(‘whatever’).config(‘1’).config(‘2’) or can there only be 1 config statement?
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[20:27:50] <Hyperking> postitnote: i am attempting to go all static :-)
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[20:28:07] <postitnote> monokrome: The ng-enter is instant, no?
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[20:28:32] <postitnote> monokrome: I think this is more apparent if you look at the bootstrap "alert" bar which has a background.
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[20:29:19] <monokrome> postitnote: Well, the alerts don't matter since CSS is handling the animation - right?
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[20:29:33] <postitnote> Hyperking: In that case, the only thing I can imagine is a somewhat complex collection of json files and an accompanying lighter-weight index.
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[20:30:31] <monokrome> postitnote: Focus on just one word in the header, it looks like when you click a button it does the expected thing
[20:30:53] <monokrome> IE, if you're on "One" and click into "Two" - "Two" doesn't immediately show up
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[20:31:08] <postitnote> Let me change the length of the heading on one of them.
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[20:31:34] <monokrome> I think that what you're referring to might be the way that it looks like a big jumble of text when it's in the center of the cross-fade, but that can be reduced by changing the easing method for each of the classes
[20:31:41] <monokrome> or maybe I'm just not seeing it properly
[20:31:48] <postitnote> monokrome: http://plnkr.co/edit/BvgcSLiZVWTcNAHFZq2v?p=preview watch the word "okay" appear instantly.
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[20:32:55] <mmitchell> anyone know of a good library that can parse a query string into an object, and then turn an object into a query string?
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[20:33:01] <monokrome> hmm
[20:33:26] <Hyperking> postitnote: can u explain why separate the json data? and what are you referring to with "lighter-weight" index?
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[20:34:11] <Cixis> Hyperking: a simple use-case: if i want to read one post on your blog, why should my browser load all the posts?
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[20:37:30] <Hyperking> Cixis: well consider that this blog was once on wordpress. you only see the top 10 recent posts, however, when you search the archive the browser only loads a small json file indexing names and urls or every post. Angular will trim the search to the closest result...does that make sense?
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[20:38:00] <robdubya> i think that's reasonable, though not necessarily scalable
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[20:38:41] <postitnote> Hyperking: It would be somewhat ghetto, but basically creating a json file with {'foo': {'file':'foo-stuff.json'}} so when a user types "fo" you can autocomplete to foo, load foo-stuff.json and render the list of foo-related stuff.
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[20:39:16] <Hyperking> robdubya: your the second person to say not scalable.
[20:39:17] <postitnote> This way you're only loading that tiny index map.
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[20:39:29] <postitnote> Hyperking: It's not scalable. <-- I'm the third!
[20:39:40] <robdubya> shits gotta be webscale bro
[20:39:45] <robdubya> what if it goes viral
[20:39:54] <robdubya> in the ghetto
[20:39:59] <robdubya> (in the gheeetooo)
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[20:40:05] <juan_> Hello
[20:40:05] <Hyperking> lol
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[20:40:08] <juan_> everybody
[20:40:11] <postitnote> robdubya: Haha…also, if you use parse.com and it goes viral you're kind of f$cked heh
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[20:40:36] <juan_> I'vw got troubles with IE and i need to skype somebody because I think this trouble is not normal
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[20:40:45] <monokrome> postitnote: So, they just need to start with opacity 0 then
[20:40:48] <postitnote> Free plan becomes $2000/mo plan…and while you're scrounging for $2000 to pay your parse.com bill, Facebook is stealing your idea.
[20:40:50] <robdubya> troubles with IE is absolutely normal
[20:40:52] <robdubya> you must be new
[20:40:59] <postitnote> as they have all your data :)
[20:41:00] <juan_> im new in fact
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[20:41:40] <robdubya> juan_ not a whole lot of people are going to want to jump on skype, but if you post your question i'm sure some people will help
[20:41:44] <juan_> But need to fix that
[20:41:45] <postitnote> monokrome: Also, .ng-enter would then need to be 0 right?
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[20:42:12] <juan_> Ok, I can try maybe, dificult to explain of course
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[20:42:24] <robdubya> better to show code
[20:42:35] <Hyperking> postitnote: why would a flat file not be scalable?
[20:42:56] <monokrome> postitnote: Yes. I think this is doing it? http://plnkr.co/edit/clI6WVgA8ep0QJWzgVoR?p=preview
[20:43:03] <robdubya> well, it'll get bigger and bigger
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[20:43:10] <robdubya> and at some point, too big
[20:43:10] <Hyperking> robdubya: ^
[20:43:20] <robdubya> then you're doing postindex-part1.json
[20:43:22] <postitnote> monokrome: YES.
[20:43:24] <robdubya> or some other nonsense
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[20:43:48] <robdubya> your blog probably sucks though, so don't worry about it :D
[20:43:55] <Cixis> Hyperking: i don't think any one answer fits your use case, but we're just given some general pointers
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[20:44:10] <monokrome> It would probably look a bit nicer even with different easing methods
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[20:44:26] <robdubya> whats that blog thing github does?
[20:44:32] <Hyperking> Cixis: thats what i looking for...I appreaciate the pointers
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[20:44:49] <robdubya> jekyll? you could prob do some sort of build process where it gulped your posts and indexed them
[20:44:54] <postitnote> monokrome: You @monokrome?
[20:45:10] <monokrome> postitnote: On Twitter?
[20:45:13] <postitnote> Yeah
[20:45:15] <monokrome> Yeah
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[20:45:51] <Cixis> caitp: i just noticed this, but i'm willing to bet it's the caused of my crash. we're serializing an object into a 50MB JSON string that is being injected into an element's attribute. :|
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[20:46:01] <robdubya> i feel like i had some sort of breakthrough on testing last night
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[20:46:09] <robdubya> suddenly it clicked
[20:46:14] <monokrome> :D
[20:46:18] <monokrome> testing ftw
[20:46:36] <robdubya> the new DI testing stuff is fun https://gist.github.com/robwormald/ece74f14e2ecacf3c3d2
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[20:47:54] <jr3> robdubya, go on
[20:48:08] <postitnote> I can't believe plunker is just a dude. Way to go, that guy.
[20:48:17] <robdubya> right?
[20:48:23] <cthrax> whoa what?
[20:48:26] <cthrax> that's one guy?
[20:48:31] <cthrax> daaaaaaaamn
[20:48:34] <postitnote> https://twitter.com/filearts/status/481890304220733440
[20:48:40] <monokrome> robdubya: That's pretty helpful. I used to have a bunch of library stuff that I wrapped it with, so maybe this will make that code a bit more simple
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[20:48:58] <postitnote> I really lold at "Restarting servers just in case." hahahaha
[20:49:10] <monokrome> I use some other wrappers so I do: describeController('some.controller.here', function () {}); and my tests just have this.scope in them
[20:49:12] <Cixis> plunker really needs some work :|
[20:49:14] <robdubya> the next one is ..... amazing
[20:49:20] <robdubya> that's all i can say
[20:49:41] <postitnote> How has google not acqui-hired this guy.
[20:49:43] <cthrax> Cixis, I tend to like it better than jsfiddle
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[20:49:54] <cthrax> or codepen
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[20:49:56] <scri66le> an
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[20:50:00] <Hyperking> robdubya: what about using sqlite for my super suckie blog search?
[20:50:06] <robdubya> monokrome the test thing?
[20:50:07] <postitnote> If I were google I would've given him $2m and a super nice office by now.
[20:50:12] <scri66le> any simple way to lazy load a list of data with angularjs?
[20:50:23] <Hyperking> +1 plunker
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[20:50:25] <robdubya> Hyperking what are you trying to avoid exactly?
[20:50:39] <Cixis> cthrax: my issue with it is that sometimes it just plain doesn't work
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[20:50:49] <Cixis> i've had it not-load more than i've had it load
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[20:51:27] <Hyperking> robdubya: trying to go all static, no mysql db
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[20:51:40] <cthrax> Cixis, fair enough, if it didn't load for me most of the time I probably wouldn't like it either, but it's rare for me to encounter full-on not loading
[20:52:24] <robdubya> Hyperking if you're gonna take the time to put in sqlite, you might as well do mysql / postgres / anything
[20:52:35] <robdubya> that's sort of a bad middle ground
[20:52:46] <robdubya> i dont thnk your indexed file is unreasonable, assumnig you're okay with managing it
[20:52:47] <Cixis> meh
[20:52:56] <Cixis> query sqlite, cache the result
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[20:53:43] <robdubya> Hyperking https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages
[20:54:06] <robdubya> https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll
[20:54:21] <robdubya> ruby ftl, but you could steal some ideas
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[20:55:35] <Hyperking> robdubya: shit! my blog is on my local machine. data is safed to sqlitedb and converted into markdown files for jekyll. uploading the sqlitedb indexing all articles with urls would still be considered flat, but would this be scalable??
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[20:55:36] <juan_> ok
[20:55:43] <juan_> im ready to try to explain my problem
[20:55:48] <juan_> Im using a router app its just happen in IE when I click some button form my page it takes me to another page($router) and in this page I bring general data with $http. Then, on this page I change values after clicking a button to update the general data, Then it takes me to another page($router) Then, I bring again a general data (it suppose to be updated) but it brings the same general data as the beginning. I repeat, just h
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[20:56:27] <robdubya> Hyperking it really depends how awesome your blog is
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[20:56:58] <robdubya> i'd just put it in a free heroku tier, plug in an ORM, and be done with it
[20:57:05] <robdubya> but then dream in databases, so....
[20:57:13] <robdubya> *i dream
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[20:57:47] <nickeddy> robdubya: what's your favorite database dream?
[20:57:53] <Hyperking> robdubya: well it will be awesome. Im usually getting around 10,000 page views monthly. I'm done with wordpress
[20:57:54] <nickeddy> waterline, probably...
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[20:58:13] <robdubya> where everybody uses postgres and plv8 for everything
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[20:58:42] <robdubya> nickeddy actually, waterline is my least favorite thing about sails :D
[20:58:56] <robdubya> i love what it does... but not so much how it does it
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[21:00:08] <robdubya> but its easy for me to be critical, i didnt write the damn thing
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[21:01:03] <juan_> Well if somebody read my problem I would like to add curiosity. Ii works perfectly when i open the tool development console
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[21:01:09] <Cixis> plv8 :|
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[21:01:20] <nickeddy> robdubya: oh :P
[21:01:27] <nickeddy> robdubya: why don't you like how it does what it does?
[21:01:40] <robdubya> nickeddy callbacks mostly
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[21:01:44] <shr3djs> Alright sail vs towerjs vs railway ???? **evil laugh }:)**
[21:01:51] <robdubya> it does promises n stuff
[21:02:02] <robdubya> nickeddy i just have a different architectural view
[21:02:20] <robdubya> from the outside its fine, when you start messing with source, i find it difficult
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[21:02:47] <robdubya> its just a function of it being built for their needs, not mine
[21:02:53] <robdubya> eg, every piece of open source software ever
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[21:05:19] <nicholaswyoung> Advice, please: would it be better to include all of my application's behavior (including the admin features, and different user role features) in a single Angular app, or build smaller, focused applications for each user? (None of the behaviors needed by each user are really shared.)
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[21:06:21] <nickeddy> robdubya: ah. makes sense
[21:06:30] <postitnote> Hyperking: What are your blog posts stored in?
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[21:06:43] <robdubya> i use the fuck out of it nickeddy, dont get me wrong.
[21:06:53] <robdubya> only thing worse than ORM's is writing your own ORM :D
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[21:07:21] <robdubya> that little test thing i posted is the beginning of mine,
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[21:07:35] <robdubya> for 2.0 and node (and maybe Dart and Swift :D
[21:07:38] <Hyperking> postitnote: it's a wordpress blog stored in sqlite
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[21:08:01] <postitnote> Hyperking: Why don't you want to set up a little rest endpoint? Seems so simple.
[21:08:14] <robdubya> postitnote++
[21:08:17] <robdubya> its good practice
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[21:08:42] <Hyperking> postitnote: not sure where to begin
[21:08:56] <postitnote> Hyperking: What is your blog coded in?
[21:09:28] <Hyperking> postitnote: php wordpress
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[21:10:28] <postitnote> Hyperking: Oh I thought you stopped using wordpress. There are a couple ways to do this: 1) install some wordpress rest plugin or 2) use word press's ajax hooks to expose exactly what you need using WP_Query, etc.
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[21:11:12] <postitnote> Hyperking: We're talking like 8 lines of code added to your theme's functions.php
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[21:12:03] <postitnote> Hyperking: if you do the latter, there are a billion examples out there. If you find an example I will tell you if it's kosher.
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[21:14:02] <Hyperking> postitnote:ok, im looking now. im only running wordpress locally to generate my markdown files. data is stored in sqlitedb and jekyll renders the static pages for upload.
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[21:14:27] <postitnote> Oh, I see…so your deployment is completely static.
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[21:14:43] <Hyperking> postitinote: right
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[21:17:16] <Hyperking> Im still trying to understand REST. if my json file holds all data regarding articles and urls. a REST endpoint would be dynamically rendered as json to the browser??
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[21:18:30] <robdubya> Hyperking rest isnt so much about json as it is about resources
[21:18:31] <robdubya> https://blog.apigee.com/detail/restful_api_design
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[21:18:41] <robdubya> good little intro
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[21:21:44] <Hyperking> so in my case. the search will query my sqlite db and return results of that query to angular??
[21:21:46] <postitnote> Hyperking: The problem is that your json file is going to be all or nothing. You *could* write a little node app to run on heroku or google app engine that will just sync your json file in mongo or something and expose that as REST.
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[21:22:35] <postitnote> Hyperking: Were you wanting to search the json data? Or is it just most recent posts or something?
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[21:23:47] <postitnote> Hyperking: Sucking in tons of json from a static source and exposing it as a predicated endpoint is probably my favorite case for Mongo heh.
[21:24:19] <shackleford> what would a simple test look like, if I wanted to test that (an object) var random is based off the prototype of $interval
[21:24:21] <shackleford> ?
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[21:24:42] <Hyperking> the 50k json file is a collection of all article names and urls. angular will search the json file for the article they are looking for
[21:25:01] <postitnote> 50kb or 50k objects?
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[21:25:18] <wallerdev> 50k one byte objects
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[21:25:54] <Hyperking> 50kb is the file size of the json file
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[21:26:15] <postitnote> Oh and you just want to iterate through the article names to search?
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[21:26:44] <postitnote> Forget rest then. Just wait to load the file until explicit search intent.
[21:26:47] <Hyperking> yes, however robdubya: mentioned it's not practical approach and ghetto :-)
[21:27:09] <postitnote> Is your json file updated every time you deploy?
[21:27:17] <Hyperking> yes.
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[21:27:42] <postitnote> I respect your static approach. Just load the json data when the person focuses on the search box.
[21:27:43] <djam90> robdubya, here?
[21:28:00] <djam90> or anybody with xcode dev tools
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[21:29:07] <Hyperking> postitnote: im not opposed to using mongodb. the site will increase in size and popularity. search will be a major factor
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[21:31:20] <marcospgp> What is the difference between a service and a factory and when would I use one over the other?
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[21:32:09] <Zerot> the are both singletons. the only difference is how they are defined
[21:32:16] <Zerot> a service is "new"ed by angular
[21:32:27] <Zerot> and a factory directly uses the object you return
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[21:33:53] <Zerot> marcospgp: so a service can technically be rewritten as a factory: app.factory('name', fuction(){ return new serviceFunction()});
[21:33:59] <postitnote> marcospgp: One thing I never read when I hit the "angular wall" was that service, provider, and factory were solely related to the dependency injector. So, in case you don't know that…all that service, provider, and factory do is determine what, exactly, gets injected.
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[21:34:04] <marcospgp> If they're so similar, why are they considered two different categories of things? Don't they amount to pretty much the same thing then?
[21:34:43] <Zerot> marcospgp: they do amount to pretty much the same, yes. they are only there for convenience
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[21:34:48] <marcospgp> hm postitnote I didn't quite get what you mean /:
[21:34:56] <marcospgp> thanks zerot
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[21:35:17] <nic_> Anyone herE?
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[21:35:24] <Zerot> marcospgp: basically, a service can be implemented as a factory can be implemented as a provider
[21:35:25] <postitnote> marcospgp: What seemed odd to me, is that angular could've just as easily provided a function named bind() in place of those three, and let the developer dictate exactly what was injected. I believe future version of angular will work this way.
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[21:35:36] <postitnote> It just requires you to know a little bit about prototypal inheritance in js.
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[21:35:48] <nic_> Anyone has form validation problems with Firefox?
[21:35:51] <Zerot> postitnote: well, provider already allows that
[21:35:53] <marcospgp> Yep angular seems way too complicated right now, to me at least
[21:36:05] <juan_> Ok now I know how to fix y troublw
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[21:36:25] <Zerot> postitnote: service and factory are just 2 convenience functions for 2 often used patterns
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[21:37:00] <postitnote> Zerot: I know but I think angular may have just shifted the point of confusion from "what is prototypal inheritance?" to "what is the difference between factory, service, and provider?" heh
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[21:37:25] <Zerot> postitnote: there is no inheritance in angular for the services/factories
[21:37:29] <postitnote> It's still the steepest part of the angular learning curve for most (if not all).
[21:37:33] <Zerot> so it is not a shift
[21:37:38] <Zerot> it is extra confusion ;)
[21:37:46] <postitnote> extra confusion, was my point :)
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[21:38:57] <postitnote> Zerot: Someone in here mentioned that angular is steering away from this in a future release…and perhaps forcing users to learn a bit more about js fundamentals. I think this is a very good thing.
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[21:39:08] <Zerot> I agree
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[21:39:53] <robdubya> postitnote yar, its greatly greatly simplified
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[21:40:19] <djam90> robdubya, does it take you long to hook up site to your profiler thing?
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[21:40:52] <robdubya> i started a shitstorm over in nodejs about DI. fun to watch
[21:41:06] <andrew9183> is there a way to have ng-repeat not repeat the element that its on, but rather the one inside ?
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[21:41:21] <nickeddy> wat andrew9183
[21:41:44] <nickeddy> <ul><li ng-repeat="blah in blahs">{{ blah }}</li></ul>
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[21:43:49] <djam90> robdubya, does it take you long to hook up site to your profiler thing?
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[21:44:06] <djam90> I want to know if it still increases memory forever or not
[21:44:21] <robdubya> djam90 i'm just going to lunch, but i will when i get back
[21:44:28] <djam90> awesome thanks!
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[21:47:48] <djam90> is it best practice to split code up into different files? This is something I struggle on, having not much JS experience, where to put code. Do I have a toolkit.js with all my custom added things like adding prototype functions, a file for each angular app? use component or some other tool to bundle everything, I'm such a n00b in that part of things
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[21:49:21] <djam90> and if I do split up directives, services, etc into files, which order are the files loaded?
[21:49:24] <djam90> I'm at a loss
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[21:50:53] <ojacobson> djam90: once angular itself is loaded, you can define modules in any order. If you specify all your dependencies right, the modules will be set up and configured in the right order automatically.
[21:51:03] <marcospgp> I feel you djam
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[21:51:47] <snurfery> angular uses dependency injection so you mostly don't have to worry about order
[21:51:56] <snurfery> define something, inject it wherever you want, and it just works
[21:52:10] <djam90> so I can have a "new car search" folder and then have folders like "directives" "services" "controllers"
[21:52:12] <snurfery> it wrangles all the various pieces together
[21:52:20] <oniijin> wrangle
[21:52:21] <marcospgp> How should I go about diving my code into several files?
[21:52:28] <oniijin> modules
[21:52:31] <cboden> I’m using angular ui-select2 on a <select> tag. When I update the ng-model variable outside the ui-select2 component the UI isn’t updated to the value selected.
[21:52:54] <djam90> oniijin, what do you mean modules
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[21:53:08] <marcospgp> yes what do you mean with modules
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[21:53:26] <snurfery> distinct pieces of functionality
[21:53:35] <snurfery> like I have a CRM/contact database
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[21:53:50] <marcospgp> I find the documentation quite confusing, even though it looks simple https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/module
[21:53:57] <snurfery> so I might have 'contacts', 'email', 'auth', 'products' etc
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[21:54:05] <oniijin> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+split+up+code+angularjs
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[21:55:14] <djam90> is it worth checking out angular seed?
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[21:55:44] <marcospgp> from what I have read, no
[21:55:47] <djam90> http://cliffmeyers.com/blog/2013/4/21/code-organization-angularjs-javascript <--- would that folder structure be used per angular module, or for ALL modules?
[21:56:04] <marcospgp> a better idea would be ng-boilerplate or even check this app out https://github.com/angular-app/angular-app
[21:56:14] <marcospgp> but this is from what I have searched
[21:56:24] <snurfery> I'm a bigger fan of using yeoman
[21:56:33] <Krowbar> does anyone know how to use $watch() when using the "controller as" design? (ie *not* injecting $scope). Google searchs have found nothing useful so far.
[21:56:57] <djam90> yeoman, never seen it
[21:56:58] <snurfery> yeoman has app skeleton generators for things like angular, and it's all-around dope
[21:57:10] <marcospgp> well strictly from my researches, I've seen a lot of people not liking the current yeoman template and requesting changes to it in order to make it more compliant to the suggestions from google. see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XXMvReO8-Awi1EZXAXS4PzDzdNvV6pGcuaF4Q9821Es/pub
[21:57:17] <snurfery> they try to have best-practices built-in
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[21:58:15] <snurfery> marcospgp: yeah for a very large project I could see that, but yeoman's current structure is the best out of all the seed projects I've found
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[21:58:49] <marcospgp> snurfery: hm okay, I see
[21:58:57] <djam90> and this yeoman skeleton, is that for one "module" or for multiple? Would you have numerous skeletons or is that for the entire websitie
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[21:59:02] <snurfery> these projects where they just have one 'directives.js' file filled with directives from all over the app is silly
[21:59:09] <marcospgp> the yeoman skeleton is for the entire app
[21:59:15] <snurfery> entire app yeah
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[21:59:33] <snurfery> it has a modules folder
[21:59:42] <snurfery> lemme screenshot mine, one sec
[21:59:45] <djam90> thnx
[22:00:00] <marcospgp> about having multiple models, would you just create a bunch of them for different purposes and them declaring them all as dependencies on the main one (which is called on the <html> or <body>)?
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[22:01:25] <snurfery> http://imgur.com/DbKb0oM
[22:01:43] <robdubya> puurty
[22:01:45] <snurfery> pretty much all that stuff came from the yeoman generator
[22:01:56] <snurfery> I just hang out in the modules folder
[22:01:59] <marcospgp> thats yeoman correct?
[22:02:04] <marcospgp> oh okay
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[22:02:45] <djam90> ah so each module is its own folder with its own controllers.js etc
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[22:03:04] <snurfery> yup, keep that shit nice and organized
[22:03:19] <djam90> brilliant, going to restructure it all later
[22:03:26] <snurfery> and I'm a python guy so it reminds me of their directory-based concept of modules
[22:03:35] <djam90> and maybe switch over those jquery ajax calls to $http
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[22:08:05] <the-erm> Is there a way to use a previous value for a field that's being iterated over.
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[22:08:28] <the-erm> For instance I'd like to subtract 2 dates ... and get the number of days between them.
[22:08:50] <nickeddy> hmmmm for some reason doing something like <td rowspan="{{someobj.someprop.length}}"> doesn't work
[22:09:04] <nickeddy> and i know that the length is > 0
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[22:09:05] <shr3djs> Hey how are you guys using google analytics with angular ^
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[22:09:54] <shr3djs> ua *
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[22:11:39] <nickeddy> oops
[22:11:41] <nickeddy> yay for typos :|
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[22:13:35] <monokrome> postitnote: Thanks for the mention :)
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[22:13:52] <the-erm> nickeddy: did you try .length()
[22:13:58] <the-erm> vs just .length
[22:14:19] <nickeddy> the-erm: no that works, i had a typo haha :)
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[22:14:43] <monokrome> the-erm: You can either store it or use something like a reduce function
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[22:17:41] <postitnote> monokrome: ha! Thanks for the help.
[22:17:47] <snurfery> damn I just had to add a teeny bit of functionality to an old jquery-based version of my app
[22:17:58] <snurfery> it made me cringe
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[22:18:18] <snurfery> looking at all this ridiculous code to post to the server, get stuff back, keep the frontend consistent, replace values, etc etc
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[22:22:01] <xanadu> as i always say when i begin to ask a question in here, hello good-looking people!
[22:22:08] <xanadu> (sometimes this works, sometimes not)
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[22:24:03] <xanadu> when writing unit tests, i want to spyOn a service's method and do an .and.returnValue() on that method. is this possible without mocking out the service? in other words, can i spy on a real Service and return a value?
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[22:25:12] <xanadu> first one to answer helpfully gets a lifetime supply of thank you's
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[22:26:02] <xanadu> and a bag of Skittles
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[22:28:29] <reduce> can i set a model to the name of a property within a property? For instance, $scope.propToUse = 'foo'; $scope.foo = 10; then ng-model="{{propToUse}}"?
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[22:29:36] <xanadu> reduce - have you tried it?
[22:29:57] * reduce tries it...
[22:30:58] <xanadu> (i actually don't know the answer, since it was a somewhat simple example, i was just curious what results you were getting)
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[22:32:19] <nickeddy> are there any good directives for inline form/table editing?
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[22:32:49] <nickeddy> what i've found so far has been a bit lackluster
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[22:33:37] <reduce> xanadu: it doesnt work
[22:33:49] <xanadu> boo
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[22:35:00] <xanadu> nickeddy - http://vitalets.github.io/angular-xeditable/#editable-table ?
[22:35:31] <mattt_> At what point is a directive’s link function evaluated? From my experiments it doesn’t seem to be until a value is typed into the input field to which the directive is applied. Is there some other way to run the function?
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[22:36:38] <snapwich> the link function is evaluated when the dom element is compiled
[22:36:52] <snapwich> it'll only run once
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[22:38:27] <shackleford> http://plnkr.co/edit/mQZkfc6p8HaXzI8ZjkrJ?p=catalogue
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[22:38:54] <shackleford> I am trying to test, that an object is a prototype of an $interval
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[22:38:59] <cthrax> Anyone here use angulardart?
[22:39:01] <shackleford> and have the follwoing
[22:39:03] <shackleford> http://plnkr.co/edit/mQZkfc6p8HaXzI8ZjkrJ?p=catalogue
[22:39:41] <shackleford> but I keep getting error that says ''undefined' is not a function (evaluating 'scope.refresh()')'
[22:39:52] <cthrax> I'm starting a proof of concept conversion of an angularjs app and ran across the fact that @Controller is deprecated, which caused me to run into this https://github.com/angular/angular.dart/issues/919
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[22:40:15] <cthrax> but I don't see what the non-deprecated method should be, outside of the rootContextType mentioned in the linked issue
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[22:45:01] <djam90> snurfery, could you send that screenshot again? the imgur link is dead
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[22:48:03] <nickeddy> xanadu: that's the one i saw before. i think i'll just have to do something custom given the complexity of what i want
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[22:52:40] <djam90> Someone mentioned earlier that Angular does it all for you with regards to seperating code into files
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[22:52:59] <djam90> do I have to tell it to inject things or does it just know
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[22:54:15] <nickeddy> xanadu: thanks though, gives me some ideas
[22:54:15] <marcospgp> of course you have to tell angular what you need, but not programatically
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[22:55:40] <djam90> marcospgp, what do you mean? for example, if I want to move a directive into a new file, can I just move the code?
[22:55:58] <djam90> newCarSearchApp.directive('slyCarousel', function($timeout, $compile) {
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[22:56:09] <djam90> can I just put that in a new file?
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[23:02:25] <djam90> can that be done?
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[23:05:44] <betasprite> hi i'm having an issue with a directive with an isolated scope and was wondering if someone could help me figure out what's going on
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[23:05:54] <betasprite> http://embed.plnkr.co/g5Xu9wA3nQkprehihV5Y/preview
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[23:06:28] <betasprite> how is the controller property ending up in the isolated scope?
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[23:06:40] <betasprite> and why isn't the property from the directive on that scope?
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[23:09:50] <djam90> hmm, I moved the directive into a new file, it broke
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[23:10:54] <djam90> people said it work, lied!
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[23:11:07] <djam90> directive in another file not working
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[23:11:24] <cthrax> djam90, are you including that file in your html page?
[23:11:30] <djam90> yeah
[23:11:33] <djam90> tried in header and footer
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[23:12:04] <cthrax> and you are registering the directive with a module and depending on that module somewhere?
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[23:12:53] <djam90> cthrax, does it matter in what order I load the files?
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[23:13:40] <cthrax> djam90, angular has to be first, the others shouldn't matter
[23:14:13] <djam90> cthrax, so I can put the directive before the angular app?
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[23:14:35] <cthrax> ought to be able to
[23:14:40] <djam90> directive in a new file works in footer (after the app.js) but not in header before it
[23:15:07] <djam90> and I get this error when directive is first: Uncaught ReferenceError: newCarSearchApp is not defined
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[23:16:08] <djam90> cthrax, I notice in an example they put this before the directive part: angular.module('directives.crud.edit', [])
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[23:16:15] <djam90> do I have to define a module there first
[23:16:26] <cthrax> djam90, here's a working example http://plnkr.co/edit/OjyOqwFC8QTcU2knvttU?p=preview
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[23:16:55] <cthrax> the directive should be defined on a module, and the ng-app module should depend on that module somewhere in the chain
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[23:17:16] <djam90> ahh I see
[23:17:23] <djam90> I was doing it like newCarSearchApp.directive('slyCarousel', function($timeout, $compile) {
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[23:17:50] <cthrax> djam90, in that case, order matters. I wouldn't recommend depending on global variables like that
[23:18:08] <djam90> ok.. so I should put it on a module like in your example
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[23:18:14] <cthrax> I prefer to chain off of the module call so I don't have any global variables
[23:18:26] <cthrax> correct
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[23:19:46] <djam90> awesome, just changed that, it works like a dream!
[23:19:53] <cthrax> glad to hear it
[23:19:57] <djam90> I will take that as a best practice right there
[23:20:28] <cthrax> YMMV, but it works for me
[23:20:31] <timelf123> does anyone use angulartics to send tracking data to GA, et al?
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[23:27:33] <djam90> cthrax, is it a same principle with factory service?
[23:27:40] <cthrax> yes
[23:27:40] <djam90> I currently have usedCarSearchApp.factory('CarData',function($http,$filter){
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[23:27:55] <cthrax> I use that principle for all methods off of a module
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[23:28:10] <djam90> hmm this is a little different
[23:28:12] <djam90> because in the app
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[23:28:35] <djam90> I already add in the dependency list: CarData
[23:28:48] <djam90> do I also have to add in the module that I add to the top of the service?
[23:28:51] <cthrax> shouldn't matter, as long as the app depends on the module
[23:28:52] <linagee> does anyone know of an alternative to ui-mask?
[23:29:14] <djam90> so if the app depends on the module, do I still need to add the name of the service there too?
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[23:30:55] <djam90> do I need the module name and the service name in the app declaration bit?
[23:31:17] <cthrax> djam90, just like this, http://plnkr.co/edit/OjyOqwFC8QTcU2knvttU?p=preview
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[23:33:17] <djam90> what if I have this at the moment... usedCarSearchApp.factory('CarData',function($http,$filter){
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[23:34:57] <djam90> cthrax, that example is confusing because everything is named service :P
[23:34:57] <cthrax> djam90, you have two options, angular.module("usedCarSearchApp").factory('CarData'.... which will add the factory to the "userCarSearchApp" module or create a new module and add that new module as a dependency to your userCarSearchApp module
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[23:35:11] <nickeddy> writing a new resume right now, and jeez :(
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[23:35:31] <linagee> nickeddy: jeez?
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[23:36:02] <nickeddy> all of my experience is from the same place haha
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[23:36:14] <djam90> nickeddy, your resume is what you make it!
[23:36:16] <cthrax> djam90, there you go http://plnkr.co/edit/OjyOqwFC8QTcU2knvttU?p=preview
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[23:37:22] <djam90> cthrax, thank you, appreciate that! so you pass the module into the app, and the service into the controller
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[23:38:16] <cthrax> right
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[23:41:58] <the-erm> How do you get controllers to communicate with each other?
[23:42:12] <cthrax> the-erm, services
[23:42:17] <the-erm> Thanks.
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[23:42:35] <marcospgp> Why is angular so complicated? I swear it makes me so damn frustrated :( especially when most of the time it really souldn't have to be!
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[23:42:47] <cthrax> the-erm, there's also the option of events on $scope and directives using require
[23:42:49] <linagee> marcospgp: its so easy though! :)
[23:43:07] <postitnote> It's easy to a point. The learning curve is basically a hockey stick.
[23:43:08] <cthrax> the-erm, I think those options are very specific though
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[23:43:36] <marcospgp> it's easy to understand how it enhances html and doing basic apps like the hello ari! thing
[23:43:37] <linagee> postitnote: its easy if you read the tutorials and read a book on it and watch a few videos on it. :)
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[23:43:59] <marcospgp> but when you get to big apps and you have factories and services and providers and they're all the same thing and so different at the same time
[23:44:37] <linagee> marcospgp: ah, you're at a "there be dragons" part of Angular. :)
[23:44:42] <marcospgp> and the documentation doesn't seem clear at all to me, it's like someone who talks and talks but doesn't say anything :(
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[23:44:59] <postitnote> I *still* don't know what $get does in a provider and I've read about it over a dozen times. Now I've just resigned to being "too stupid" to get it.
[23:45:10] <in_deep_thought> should you have a seperate controller function for different divs that are doing different things? or put all of the logic inside of one controller and one overarching div
[23:45:12] <john41> marcospgp: check out egghead.io
[23:45:15] <linagee> marcospgp: the angular documentation sucks a bit I think. that's why I went for books
[23:45:31] <the-erm> Basically I want to OtherController.$scope.foo = data_from_request
[23:45:34] <linagee> john41: nice
[23:45:39] <marcospgp> I have checked egghead
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[23:45:46] <the-erm> Just not sure how to do that.
[23:45:46] <marcospgp> To no avail. I guess I will try again
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[23:46:08] <marcospgp> It's like, I see what he's doing, and yes yes it makes sense and everything, but okay now it's my turn to code. What the hell am I supposed to do again? /:
[23:46:30] <cthrax> in_deep_thought, it depends, but it most cases I've found one div is sufficient
[23:46:33] <nickeddy> the-erm: use a service to pass data between controllers
[23:46:35] <marcospgp> anyway this definitely isn't the place to be ranting, I'm sorry guys
[23:46:53] <john41> marcospgp: ranting isn't bad if it instigates conversation :)
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[23:47:38] <linagee> if I'm trying to get help on angular-ui, is it ranting or trying to get a bug fix? :(
[23:47:39] <djam90> brilliant - just migrated two apps that previously had all controller,service and directive in one file, split into files in a modules folder, woohoo
[23:47:41] <marcospgp> well for one I would hope it instigates some simplicity
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[23:47:57] <marcospgp> I don't really think angular can get really big if it isn't at least a bit more approachable
[23:47:58] <linagee> does anyone have an android device they can test something on?
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[23:48:56] <jaime> you use a provider when you need to create a service or factory that needs to be configured later on by the module consumer, get is the function that angular will use when such object is injected via dependency injection
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[23:49:29] <marcospgp> I'm sure that makes so much sense to you, but for me reading that just makes my head hurt aha
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[23:49:41] <djam90> linagee, android guy here!
[23:49:44] <djam90> Galaxy Note 3
[23:49:45] * linagee is trying to learn Objective-C through lynda. its been fairly easy thus far. kind of crazy, but they are helping me understand the madness.
[23:50:06] <jaime> e.g. a twitter angular library, you probably need to let the module consumers to set their own API_KEY or whatever
[23:50:18] <linagee> djam90: can you please help me replicate https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-utils/issues/189 ??? (pull up http://angular-ui.github.io/ui-utils/ and go to the Mask demo and try to type in a phone number)
[23:50:41] <robdubya> linagee why not learn swift?
[23:50:49] <linagee> robdubya: what's swift
[23:50:53] <robdubya> its not far off javascript, and its SO MUCH NICER than obj-c
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[23:50:56] <robdubya> apple's new language
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[23:51:09] <djam90> linagee, 1 sec
[23:51:16] <djam90> linagee, which browser?
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[23:51:24] <linagee> robdubya: but if you want to have native iPhone programs, I thought you need Objective-C...
[23:51:24] <quantax-> it looks like its their answer to all these js/html frameworks for IOS
[23:51:26] <jaime> thus, you the consumer would say, module.config(function(TwitterClientProvider) {TwitterClientProvider.setApiKey('abcderfghijk');});
[23:51:33] <linagee> djam90: Chrome or Android Browser
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[23:51:39] <marcospgp> oh by the way, gotta love the documentation. https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/providers there is a recipe for providers, services, and factories. like providers, just like the other two, are a subset of themselves. Oh god this makes no sense
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[23:51:45] <robdubya> linagee Swift is Apple's totally new (native) language for iOS / OS X applications
[23:51:52] <linagee> robdubya: is it part of Xcode?
[23:51:55] <robdubya> yes
[23:52:03] <robdubya> the beta one anyway
[23:52:03] <nickeddy> robdubya: i thoguht it was related to ES6 somehow
[23:52:04] <marcospgp> sorry for the typo btw, one of those "like" was unintended
[23:52:18] <robdubya> nope. it looks a lot like ES6, but its native to iOS
[23:52:20] <linagee> robdubya: is it more C-like?
[23:52:25] <robdubya> no, more JS like
[23:52:31] <linagee> robdubya: JS is more C-like
[23:52:40] <robdubya> well then yes
[23:52:41] <nickeddy> lol
[23:52:48] <Jdubs> hey guys
[23:52:48] <nickeddy> how is JS C-like?
[23:52:48] <djam90> linagee, at the mask demo now
[23:52:49] <jaime> and you consume that guy by stripping the "Provider" suffix when injecting it into whatever object you required it
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[23:52:53] <djam90> in Chrome
[23:52:57] <jaime> about the doc, yeah, it sucks big time
[23:53:03] <robdubya> linagee https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/swift-programming-language/id881256329?mt=11
[23:53:05] <linagee> robdubya: objective-C is more crazy like. NSString *mystring = [[NSString alloc]init]; <--- huh? lol
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[23:53:19] <nickeddy> robdubya: given apple's ecosystem is fucking tiny compared to, say, everything else, i think i'll avoid swift
[23:53:20] <jaime> is not cohesive, feels like someone rambling about the library
[23:53:24] <djam90> linagee, which box am I typing it in
[23:53:28] <Jdubs> anyone know how to make an ng-repeat not actually load the items until the sorting is done? my repeat is loading items, then sorting once the orderBy is available, even if i add an ng-if='sorting.predicate'
[23:53:28] <djam90> masked input?
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[23:53:33] <robdubya> nickeddy if its a choice between Obj-C and Swift tho
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[23:53:51] <linagee> djam90: you want to click the (999) 999-9999 template, then click it in the box that says like: (rit) a m-sk o
[23:54:02] <linagee> (the top one)
[23:54:14] <marcospgp> jaime: most definitely. Seems like a rambling by the person who developed everything and personally knows all the intricacies of the framework. Like someone showing a palace to a donkey
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[23:54:24] <djam90> linagee, done
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[23:54:28] <djam90> now what
[23:54:28] <robdubya> thats an interestnig analogy
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[23:54:47] <linagee> djam90: is it typing correcting or is it not displaying correctly? (like double characters)
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[23:54:59] <marcospgp> analogies are always great when done at the expense of the author :p
[23:55:08] <djam90> linagee, won't let me type at all in that top box
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[23:56:05] <djam90> ah sorry it lets me type numbers
[23:56:08] <jaime> I am good at learning and understanding messy codebases, but I must reckon I still don't know angular 100%, as in, I wouldn't be able to do anything if I don't have internet to look things up
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[23:56:19] <djam90> linagee, it lets me type numbers okay
[23:56:22] <robdubya> linagee / nickeddy https://gist.github.com/robwormald/74ad16c89f9efca4f37b
[23:56:28] <linagee> djam90: no double number crazyness?
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[23:56:29] <djam90> each number i type replaces one of the letters
[23:56:33] <djam90> nope
[23:56:37] <robdubya> compare the syntax. Swift reads basically like JS
[23:56:37] <linagee> djam90: what browser?
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[23:56:43] <djam90> chrome for android
[23:56:46] <nickeddy> robdubya: oh sure, i'll give you that
[23:57:02] <linagee> djam90: can you please try it in "Android Browser" (the icon that just says "Internet")
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[23:57:19] <djam90> linagee, yea 1 sec
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[23:57:28] <robdubya> nickeddy so close that transpiliation is possible i reckon
[23:57:40] <djam90> ok trying on HTC One M8 now on Internet browser 1 sec
[23:57:41] <nickeddy> from what
[23:57:49] <robdubya> JS -> Swift or Swift -> JS
[23:57:53] <nickeddy> yeah
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[23:58:13] <marcospgp> The thing is all those different setup options for the apps and my laziness are stopping me from checking a lot of working source code. Some use grunt, package managers, node, etc. and i'm just too lazy to set everything up just to check some app. I should just do more and talk less aha
[23:58:20] <nickeddy> robdubya: JS all the things
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[23:59:35] <djam90> linagee, works fine in the Internet browser too
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[23:59:52] <djam90> Android KitKat
[23:59:56] <djam90> 4.4.2
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